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00:03:13 *** mucht_home [~Martin@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:03:29 *** mucht_home [~Martin@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has joined #openttd 00:03:31 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@161-18-80-78.strcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:16:30 <Ammler> nightnight hard workers... 00:21:12 *** Yeggstry is now known as Yeggzzz 00:24:43 *** ccfreak2k [~ccfreak2k@glasnost.us] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:33:26 *** powell [~apowell@cpe-024-162-243-234.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 00:33:31 <powell> hey guys 00:33:36 <eMjay88> hey hey 00:33:46 <powell> guess what? 00:34:12 <powell> GOD DOESNT EXIST 00:34:21 <eMjay88> I know right? 00:34:32 <powell> jesus was a fag 00:34:36 <powell> amiright? 00:34:43 <eMjay88> if he even existed :P 00:34:48 <powell> yea 00:34:57 <powell> fucking islam 00:35:05 <powell> is pretty gay amiright? 00:35:14 <powell> same with judeaism 00:35:19 <powell> stupid jews 00:35:20 <eMjay88> islam is no worse than christianity, judaeism etc 00:35:26 <Yexo> powell: please watch your language 00:35:29 <powell> :( 00:35:41 <powell> VExo 00:35:47 <powell> your a dirty NIGGER 00:35:56 <Yexo> @kban powell 00:35:57 *** mode/#openttd [+b *!~apowell@cpe-024-162-243-234.nc.res.rr.com] by DorpsGek 00:35:57 *** powell was kicked from #openttd by DorpsGek [Yexo] 00:36:05 <eMjay88> lol 00:36:18 <Rubidium> don't mess with the Yexo 00:36:35 <eMjay88> I'm fairly sure powell was trolling anyway :P 00:36:37 <Yexo> I'd have done the same if he said that about anybody else 00:36:57 <glx> probably a hidden chimpout guy 00:39:59 <Rubidium> the irony is that Powell is well... 00:43:26 *** lobster [~michielbi@86.89.201.189] has joined #openttd 00:48:08 *** ccfreak2k [ccfreak2k@li26-205.members.linode.com] has joined #openttd 00:55:20 <Sacro> hehe 00:58:39 <FauxFaux> It's "you're", retard, and that's not a common contraction. 01:11:56 <energetic> I am sorry for those ppl 01:20:01 <svip> Jesus most likely existed, eMjay88, but his actual doings may have been exaggerated in the Bible. 01:24:19 *** Wolfensteijn [~Wolfenste@dhcp-077-251-185-139.chello.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:24:32 *** Zahl [~Zahl@g228018082.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: *schiel*] 01:25:59 *** Hendikins|ZzZ is now known as Hendikins|SRA412 01:27:01 <eMjay88> svip: yes, most likely on both counts :) 01:34:03 *** nicfer [~ADM@201.255.69.193] has left #openttd [] 01:43:16 *** flowOver [~J@24.108.72.191] has joined #openttd 01:43:37 *** flowOver [~J@24.108.72.191] has quit [] 02:15:57 <Belugas> jesus existed? of course he did. jesus was (and still is) a very commun name. 02:16:08 <Belugas> so plenty of jesus in the universe alright 02:17:58 <Belugas> grrr... i'm so accustomed to have two screens at work... 02:18:50 <Belugas> now, at home, i've got my normal screen, plus a laptop opened. and i'm a bit surprised that my mouse form the screen of the right does not travel to the screen to the left :S 02:20:02 <Aali> so make it 02:20:43 <Aali> my mouse is not connected to this laptop 02:21:36 <Aali> and still it moves between it and my desktop just fine :) 02:27:16 <eMjay88> Belugas: google: synergy mouse 02:29:38 <eMjay88> Aali: is that what you use? 02:30:06 <Aali> synergy? yes 02:32:06 <Belugas> well... i cannot use that mouse. my cat is too big for that :D 02:32:45 *** magnum34r [~magnum34r@d2-150.rb.gh.centurytel.net] has joined #openttd 02:33:38 <Belugas> but. i'm reading and it seems very interesting :D 02:34:38 <magnum34r> ok, who here has a psp? 02:34:40 <Aali> just don't try to link up a windows machine with anything 02:35:24 <Aali> even using the latest beta with some additional fixes for windows stupidity, its still not working 100% 02:36:09 <magnum34r> does any1 here play openttd 4 the psp? 02:36:27 <Belugas> any one 02:36:33 <Belugas> please 02:36:41 <Belugas> and it's not 4 02:36:43 <Aali> no but we do play proper english on IRC 02:36:43 <Belugas> it's for 02:36:47 <Belugas> thanks 02:37:24 <Belugas> understood, Aali. I'll give it a try sometimes 02:37:49 *** magnum34r [~magnum34r@d2-150.rb.gh.centurytel.net] has quit [Quit: Bye for now!] 02:37:49 <Belugas> magnum34r, the vast majority of us are pc-users. 02:37:57 <Belugas> yeah:D 02:39:15 <Aali> another one bites the dust 02:39:16 <Aali> heh 02:39:32 <Belugas> yeah >:) 02:39:39 <Belugas> i hate those clowns 02:39:57 <Aali> who doesn't? 02:40:00 <Belugas> yo man. wazup 02:40:04 <Belugas> buttheads 02:40:24 <Belugas> Aali, obviously, those from the same tribes :D 02:41:36 <Belugas> eMjay88, i tried all day to find the difference with the FS and your interpretation of it, in regards to what is in trunk 02:41:41 <Belugas> i'm still... puzzled 02:44:42 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.10.84.14] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- *I* use it, so it must be good!] 02:45:17 <eMjay88> first, let me thank you for your time 02:45:29 <eMjay88> what is your interpretation of it so far? 02:46:08 <Belugas> hem... that he wanted to be able to specify a certain % of load before leaving to the next order 02:46:11 <Belugas> i think 02:46:34 <eMjay88> yep, thats what I though 02:46:37 <eMjay88> thought* 02:47:30 <eMjay88> is that in trunk already? 02:47:43 <Belugas> that i'm insane? yes, thanks :) they all say that! 02:47:55 <Belugas> i really do think it's in trunk alright :D 02:48:16 <Belugas> and it's even in 0.7 betas/rcs too 02:48:22 <eMjay88> What happened yesterday was that I thought I'd have a look and see if it was there 02:48:40 <eMjay88> and I saw that enum that looked like it was related to a percentage of loading 02:49:16 <Aali> actually 02:49:18 <eMjay88> so I asked if it had been implemented, and then thought that perhaps that was part of the conditional command "goto stationX if less than x% load" 02:49:34 <eMjay88> and this is where the confusion arose :P 02:49:59 <Aali> I think he wants vehicles to leave instantly after X% load even if there's more cargo waiting 02:50:05 <Aali> which is not possible currently 02:50:32 <Tefad> why do that? why not reduce size of train 02:50:44 <Aali> you can skip an order based on load, but once the vehicle is in the station, it will take all the cargo it can 02:50:46 <eMjay88> maybe you have 3 suppliers on one train line? 02:50:47 <Tefad> reusing train from other run? 02:51:40 <Aali> personally, I think it's a very un-important feature :P 02:51:45 <Belugas> well... if it's the case, i guess he would ask to reopen the feature request. if ever he cares, since it's an year old one 02:51:50 <Belugas> i agree Aali 02:52:15 <eMjay88> in my interpretation it was "load until at least x%" 02:52:18 <Belugas> and the chances of it been implemented like he want are really really really really reallr..... small 02:52:44 <eMjay88> so if you have a really big train and not much supply you might order it to wait until it was 50% loaded 02:53:02 <Belugas> eMjay88, it does not change bu not much, don't you think? 02:53:12 <eMjay88> yes 02:53:16 <eMjay88> it does not change much :P 02:53:17 <Belugas> it's alomost a rethoric difference 02:53:29 <eMjay88> since the train costs you while running you may as well transport as much as you can when you can 02:54:11 <Belugas> mmh... kde on my ubuntu install... let see 02:54:33 <Belugas> costs? yu think it was all about costs??? 02:54:51 <Belugas> you 02:54:53 <Belugas> sorry 02:57:01 <eMjay88> I mean running costs of the train 02:57:08 <eMjay88> don't they still apply while the train is loading? 02:57:23 <Aali> depends on the train set 02:57:30 <eMjay88> default? 02:57:52 <Belugas> not sure. i think defaults are always applying 02:57:52 <Aali> default trains don't do any newgrf trickery, obviously :) 02:58:22 <Aali> but 2cc for example lowers running costs alot when speed == 0 02:58:40 <Belugas> i guess i should play more often... only time i do, it's with my son, nowaday 03:02:46 <eMjay88> so if running costs still apply, waiting for a full (or partial) load is a waste of money 03:04:03 <Belugas> but... but... we need to have money pumps! 03:04:36 <Belugas> either way, having a full train waiting to be loaded at a station is totlly unrealistic 03:04:47 <Belugas> so it's very nice the way it is :D 03:05:13 <Belugas> so it's a bit useless to cry for a few bucks been laid out during load. 03:05:16 <Belugas> PLUS! 03:05:38 <Belugas> if you do not pay for the train controler, you have to play for the loading crew! 03:05:48 <Belugas> and in real life, they do use some locomotove 03:05:51 <Belugas> so... 03:06:02 <Belugas> i guess it's pretty close to real life 03:06:06 <Belugas> fuck... it's sad 03:07:32 <eMjay88> hahaha 03:07:49 <eMjay88> Belugas: see topic 03:07:50 <eMjay88> :P 03:08:19 *** Dred_furst [~Dred@resnet586.bournemouth.ac.uk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:09:03 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:10:33 <Belugas> hum? 03:10:49 <eMjay88> "Discussion of realism is now a quietable offence" :P 03:11:43 <Belugas> hey... when it's me, it's allowed! I'm The unrealism master mind! 03:11:54 <eMjay88> I have noticed that 03:12:43 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 03:13:55 *** NukeBuster [~wouter@80.101.115.82] has left #openttd [] 03:13:59 <Belugas> hehe 03:14:03 <Belugas> so... 03:14:05 <Belugas> good night 03:14:10 *** RS-SM [~RSCN@216-165-16-104.DYNAPOOL.NYU.EDU] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:14:29 <eMjay88> good night Belugas :) 03:18:33 *** RS-SM [~RSCN@216-165-16-104.DYNAPOOL.NYU.EDU] has joined #openttd 03:26:10 *** lolman_ [~john@static-87-102-80-68.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 03:27:03 *** goodger [~ben@host81-152-233-98.range81-152.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: +++ Out Of Cheese Error +++] 03:29:41 *** goodger [~ben@host81-152-233-98.range81-152.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 03:31:11 *** lolman [~john@static-87-102-80-68.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:39:00 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:43:04 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 03:46:11 *** jpm [pekka@kone.suomen4g.fi] has joined #openttd 03:46:36 *** jpm_ [pekka@kone.suomen4g.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:00:27 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: bye] 04:17:05 *** wision_ [1009@193.19.177.35] has joined #openttd 04:17:05 *** wision [1009@193.19.177.35] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:23:26 *** Frans [~MrFrans@a80-101-158-105.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 04:30:08 *** MrFrans [~MrFrans@a80-101-158-105.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:37:32 *** michi_cc [c3eddbd7df@dude.icosahedron.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:49:48 *** Sacro [~ben@static-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Quit: Sacro] 04:56:04 *** Doorslammer [Doorslamme@PIPP-p-203-54-115-180.prem.tmns.net.au] has joined #openttd 04:56:10 *** RS-SM [~RSCN@216-165-16-104.DYNAPOOL.NYU.EDU] has quit [Quit: RS-SM] 04:56:44 *** RS-SM [~RSCN@216-165-16-104.DYNAPOOL.NYU.EDU] has joined #openttd 05:01:15 *** michi_cc [c2c7c47745@dude.icosahedron.de] has joined #openttd 05:01:18 *** mode/#openttd [+v michi_cc] by ChanServ 05:09:52 *** Noldo_ [vheino@jumi.lut.fi] has joined #openttd 05:09:52 *** Noldo [vheino@jumi.lut.fi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:24:31 *** Doorslammer [Doorslamme@PIPP-p-203-54-115-180.prem.tmns.net.au] has quit [Quit: I'll get you next episode, Inspector Gadget! NEXT EPISODE!] 05:30:49 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:37:51 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has joined #openttd 05:48:47 *** RS-SM [~RSCN@216-165-16-104.DYNAPOOL.NYU.EDU] has quit [Quit: RS-SM] 06:06:35 *** eMjay88 [~michael@60.241.9.164] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:21:16 *** stuffcorpse [~rick@121.98.136.241] has joined #openttd 06:30:21 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@a82-95-167-159.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 06:33:46 *** Frans [~MrFrans@a80-101-158-105.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: *Adios Amigos*] 06:37:13 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 06:38:23 *** valhalla1w [~valhallas@a62-251-30-68.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 06:44:39 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm144.psi148.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #openttd 06:45:23 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@a62-251-30-68.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:59:32 <el_en> 'day 07:07:42 *** el_en [~lanurmi@dyn-xdsl-83-150-113-243.nebulazone.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:10:47 *** Timitry [83dc24f1@webchat.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 07:16:24 <dihedral> morning lads 07:16:55 <Forked> morning.. 07:17:13 <dihedral> :-) 07:19:22 *** wolfy [~Wolfenste@dhcp-077-251-185-139.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 07:24:25 <planetmaker> morning 07:24:54 *** FauxFaux [faux@compsoc.sunion.warwick.ac.uk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:25:11 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 07:25:34 <dihedral> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=775159#p775159 <- HAHAHA 07:26:07 <dihedral> i gotta say, i love the 2 responses below ^^ 07:28:13 <Forked> I bet he never opened up the wiki 07:28:26 <petern> the whati? 07:28:36 <dihedral> whatiki 07:28:44 <Forked> I'm tempted to reply: STOP! Wikitime. 07:29:13 <dihedral> i love that he asks where to get the source from :-P he'll probably not even try before someone replies :-P 07:29:20 <Forked> anyway.. I setup mingw again the other day following the whutsthisi .. and only had to improvise on one step 07:30:25 <Timitry> Hahahahahaha 07:30:42 <Timitry> And then Alain gives him the link to the binaries, not to the source :P 07:33:30 <Forked> "can some one please update this patchs and i am off to bed" 08:02:03 *** |Japa| [~Japa@117.201.98.227] has joined #openttd 08:03:20 *** Pikka [~PikkaBird@CPE-58-169-176-162.qld.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 08:07:15 *** pavel1269 [~quassel@main.sspbrno.cz] has joined #openttd 08:08:30 *** JapaMala [~Japa@117.201.97.135] has joined #openttd 08:14:00 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:14:05 *** |Japa| [~Japa@117.201.98.227] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:14:34 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 08:17:24 *** racetrack [~racetrack@c114-76-9-162.eburwd4.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 08:17:53 *** FauxFaux [faux@compsoc.sunion.warwick.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 08:18:53 *** JapaMala is now known as |Japa| 08:20:14 *** |Japa| [~Japa@117.201.97.135] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Chicks dig it] 08:22:05 <dihedral> Timitry, the source is there also!! 08:22:14 <dihedral> in the *source* files 08:31:14 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1BEF1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 08:40:20 *** pavel1269 [~quassel@main.sspbrno.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:47:43 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAEd29f.bae.pppool.de] has joined #openttd 09:00:23 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:01:14 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 09:04:36 *** Yeggzzz is now known as Yeggstry 09:08:28 <energetic> http://www.shufflebrain.com/?p=260 09:08:38 *** Vikthor [~novotv6@pc404-44.feld.cvut.cz] has joined #openttd 09:18:23 *** racetrack [~racetrack@c114-76-9-162.eburwd4.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:21:01 <DASPRiD> dihedral, "is also there" 09:21:03 <DASPRiD> :P 09:21:13 <DASPRiD> or, "is there, too" 09:21:37 <dihedral> actually it's not incorrect ^^ 09:21:54 <DASPRiD> i never heard it like that.. and it sounds pretty wrong ;> 09:22:05 <dihedral> you are 100% german!! 09:22:08 <DASPRiD> and? :P 09:22:26 <dihedral> how would you have heard that, your teachers were 100% german also <- hehe 09:22:34 <DASPRiD> my grand-grand-grand-grand-grand-grand-father was probably englishman? :P 09:22:35 <dihedral> and they such :-P 09:22:47 <DASPRiD> dihedral, because i'm pretty often in the US? ;) 09:22:58 <dihedral> who said it's us-english? 09:23:08 <DASPRiD> :P 09:23:13 <dihedral> they don't speak english anyway 09:23:31 <DASPRiD> nobody speaks english, UK speaks british, US speaks something else 09:23:32 <DASPRiD> ;) 09:23:39 <dihedral> http://dict.leo.org/ende?lp=ende&lang=de&searchLoc=0&cmpType=relaxed§Hdr=on&spellToler=on&chinese=both&pinyin=diacritic&search=also&relink=on 09:23:53 <dihedral> further down to the bottom of the page 09:24:04 <DASPRiD> never trust open dictionaries *G* 09:24:14 <DASPRiD> there is a button at the top "fehler melden" 09:24:15 <DASPRiD> ;P 09:24:31 * dihedral clicks on DASPRiD's 'fehler melden' button ^^ 09:24:49 <DASPRiD> dihedral, there is just a single example "open to non-members also" 09:24:56 <DASPRiD> all other examples go against you ;> 09:25:04 <dihedral> they dont 'go agains' me 09:25:10 <dihedral> they just define other usages 09:25:24 <DASPRiD> no, the correct one :x 09:26:17 <dihedral> go play some php ^^ 09:26:26 <DASPRiD> :p 09:29:27 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.212.190] has joined #openttd 09:31:48 *** NukeBuster [~wouter@80.101.115.82] has joined #openttd 09:32:10 <DASPRiD> dihedral, uhm. lol, since when is "cogito, ergo sum" english? :> 09:32:14 <DASPRiD> leo really sucks :> 09:32:17 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@88.130.175.159] has joined #openttd 09:34:09 <planetmaker> use dict.cc instead - or better: additionally 09:34:30 <planetmaker> sometimes they're complimentary 09:34:35 <planetmaker> *complementary 09:38:59 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.212.190] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:41:15 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@88.130.177.73] has joined #openttd 09:45:11 *** Pikka is now known as Pikka|afk 09:47:50 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@88.130.175.159] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:50:41 <DASPRiD> planetmaker, i always use dict.cc actually 10:02:50 *** Alyr [~a4farmar@dsl5401C6BB.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 10:05:18 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@89.246.204.180] has joined #openttd 10:08:48 *** Hendikins|SRA412 is now known as Hendikins 10:11:49 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@88.130.177.73] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:14:15 *** racetrack [~racetrack@c114-76-9-162.eburwd4.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 10:25:08 *** Pikka|afk is now known as Pikka 10:31:11 *** Frostregen [~sucks@dslb-084-058-162-027.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 10:41:09 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@89.246.204.180] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 10:41:31 *** Vikthor [~novotv6@pc404-44.feld.cvut.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:42:14 <Hendikins> Hrm, I like this "Australia" scenario 10:44:06 *** const86 [~const@tower.mimas.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:46:25 <racetrack> muhaha 10:46:34 *** tosse [tosse@tosse.pp.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:46:34 <Forked> gurgl 10:46:37 <racetrack> finally got "go to depot" to work for drive through depots with yapf 10:50:17 *** tosse [tosse@tosse.pp.se] has joined #openttd 10:51:03 <Forked> =) 10:51:40 <racetrack> yapf is insane. I think I'm just starting to get my head around it but I've sunk many many hours into it 10:52:54 <petern> ah, coding wise 10:53:01 <petern> yes, it's "a bit" of a monster 10:53:11 <petern> alas, it was probably another thing rushed in :p 10:53:34 <racetrack> really? how so? 10:54:22 <racetrack> I understand some of why its been done the way it has. unfortunately that makes it difficult to poke at and learn from 10:55:16 <racetrack> that said, I'm not use to using gdb with hardcore c++ code .. there might be some things i can do with it to make life easier 11:02:12 <Hendikins> Ah, I remember my one major fault playing this game. I try to be too elegant. 11:04:27 *** Netsplit synthon.oftc.net <-> larich.oftc.net quits: Singaporekid, racetrack, Bergee, @Belugas 11:04:43 *** Netsplit over, joins: Singaporekid 11:05:00 *** Netsplit over, joins: Belugas, racetrack 11:05:12 *** racetrack [~racetrack@c114-76-9-162.eburwd4.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [] 11:05:23 *** racetrack [~racetrack@c114-76-9-162.eburwd4.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 11:05:34 *** Netsplit synthon.oftc.net <-> larich.oftc.net quits: Belugas 11:05:59 *** Netsplit over, joins: Belugas 11:06:43 *** Netsplit over, joins: Bergee 11:06:43 *** Netsplit synthon.oftc.net <-> larich.oftc.net quits: Belugas 11:06:48 *** Netsplit over, joins: Belugas 11:06:48 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas] by ChanServ 11:07:57 *** Zahl [~Zahl@g228018082.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 11:16:48 *** lolman_ is now known as lolman 11:31:33 *** Dred_furst [~Dred@resnet586.bournemouth.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 12:01:13 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:09:51 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@fuco.sks1.muni.cz] has quit [Quit: Quit] 12:26:30 *** Pikka [~PikkaBird@CPE-58-169-176-162.qld.bigpond.net.au] has quit [] 12:32:05 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.1.245.19] has joined #openttd 12:51:42 *** lolman [~john@static-87-102-80-68.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:55:22 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 12:55:25 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 12:57:32 *** Yeggstry is now known as Yeggs-away 13:01:56 *** maristo [~maristo@host217-114-156-151.pppoe.mark-itt.net] has joined #openttd 13:08:54 *** baldur [~balli@77.66.2.253] has joined #openttd 13:10:41 *** Fuco [dota.keys@wireless-73.fi.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 13:12:44 *** Zahl_ [~Zahl@f051088009.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 13:13:32 *** Mark [~Mark@5351EC68.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 13:19:02 <welshdragon> argh, my eyes..... 13:19:15 <welshdragon> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=41832 13:20:19 *** Zahl [~Zahl@g228018082.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:20:19 *** Zahl_ is now known as Zahl 13:36:15 <dihedral> welshdragon, yes? 13:36:21 <dihedral> any post in specific? 13:36:27 <welshdragon> dihedral: top one 13:37:03 <Belugas> i guess he means that Alain has a very strong sens of colour highligh 13:37:10 <welshdragon> yes 13:37:29 <dihedral> ahhhh 13:37:51 <dihedral> he has a lot more ^^ 13:49:46 <petern> pom te pom 13:51:12 <welshdragon> dum de dum 13:52:31 <Ammler> bim bala bim 13:57:28 <Belugas> # REPTILE! 14:02:26 *** thingwath [~thingwath@morana.sks2.muni.cz] has quit [Quit: It's all over.] 14:08:24 <Belugas> # God IS Dead 14:08:31 <Belugas> # And No One Cares 14:08:53 <Belugas> # If there is a hell 14:08:59 <Belugas> # I'll see you there! 14:09:04 <petern> # tryin' to save myself but myself keeps slipping away 14:10:04 <Rubidium> oh noes... are you trying to be powell? 14:18:01 <baldur> 1882: Nietzsche said "God is dead" 14:18:19 <baldur> 1900: God replied: "Nietzsche is dead" 14:18:30 <Belugas> so did Trent Reznor in 1994 14:19:19 *** lolman [~lolman@static-87-102-80-68.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 14:21:09 <petern> hmm, tea keeps running out 14:29:01 <Belugas> strange... so is coffee 14:29:33 <petern> could do with a beer 14:30:14 <Belugas> :D 14:30:16 * petern restarts VS 14:39:27 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.204.180] has joined #openttd 14:39:55 *** Swallow [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 14:41:46 <Belugas> # shout shout shout shout shout me 14:42:01 <Belugas> # me and my fucking gun!! 14:42:23 <dihedral> Belugas, shout?? 14:42:30 <dihedral> or shoot 14:42:59 <Belugas> hem... right 14:44:44 *** lewymati [~lewymati@aejb37.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 14:48:33 <petern> hmm 14:48:38 <petern> echo -e is not -n 14:49:06 <petern> and hence, | md5sum is not hte same 14:49:10 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm144.psi148.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:49:46 *** caladan [caladan@stallman.rootnode.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:52:51 *** Fuco [dota.keys@wireless-73.fi.muni.cz] has quit [Quit: Quit] 14:57:23 *** Frostregen [~sucks@dslb-084-058-162-027.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: und weg] 14:59:48 *** maristo [~maristo@host217-114-156-151.pppoe.mark-itt.net] has quit [Quit: Ð£Ñ ÐŸÐ¶Ñ Ñ ÐŸÑ Ð²Ð°Ñ (xchat 2.4.5 ОлО ÑÑаÑÑе)] 15:00:31 *** Timitry [83dc24f1@webchat.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 15:02:12 *** HackaLittleBit [~HackaLitt@195-23-22-233.net.novis.pt] has joined #openttd 15:02:22 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm144.psi148.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #openttd 15:08:19 <planetmaker> Even worse, it's a screenshot :) <--- glx, please tell me, that it isn't true :D (quote from http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=775414#p775414 ) 15:08:38 <glx> it's true, I opened the .doc 15:09:47 <totalwormage> :o 15:09:56 <petern> http://news.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/hi/newsbeat/newsid_7961000/7961224.stm 15:10:38 <totalwormage> yeah that one is nice :]]] 15:10:46 <totalwormage> i wonder how many people knew of it existence 15:10:55 * glx wonders if it's visible on google earth 15:11:27 <totalwormage> i was just chicking :D 15:11:27 *** lolman [~lolman@static-87-102-80-68.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:11:32 <totalwormage> checking* 15:12:20 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@a62-251-30-68.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 15:17:15 *** tkjacobsen [~tkjacobse@pppoe2-ves.broadcom.dk] has joined #openttd 15:19:19 *** valhalla1w [~valhallas@a62-251-30-68.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:19:34 *** Frostregen [~sucks@dslb-084-058-162-027.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 15:26:14 <planetmaker> My guess is that it's visible, but barely so. 15:28:37 *** Yeggs-away is now known as Yeggstry 15:28:50 <petern> visible on aerial view, but not other wise 15:29:09 *** Fuco [dota.keys@wireless-73.fi.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 15:31:53 <planetmaker> petern: depends on your lens you use :)look at 15:32:08 <planetmaker> it with another hubble pointing downward... 15:33:47 <Rubidium> you can't make very clear pictures of earth from space 15:35:34 <planetmaker> oh, sufficiently clear... 15:35:39 <petern> ... 15:35:44 <planetmaker> adaptive optics are your friend :) 15:35:53 <petern> but we were talking about *google*'s maps 15:36:05 <planetmaker> petern: I found my car on google maps... 15:36:15 <planetmaker> and it's definitely smaller than a house. 15:36:32 <petern> depends on the location 15:37:09 *** tkjacobsen [~tkjacobse@pppoe2-ves.broadcom.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:37:46 <Rubidium> just slowly zoom in. If you see a (massive) colour change when going between levels you're going from the sattelite image to the image made from a plane 15:37:50 <planetmaker> sure it does. But I don't live in a region with particular high detail. Downtown Berlin is mapped better. Probably other big cities, too 15:38:09 <petern> oh i see 15:38:10 <petern> sorry 15:38:19 <petern> i didn't realise YOU had a GIANT PENIS on your roof 15:38:25 <planetmaker> :P 15:38:47 <petern> and, grrr, why is my ssh forwarding not working :( 15:38:53 <planetmaker> I'm not living in England. I don't need to paint that on my roof in order to show my masculinity :P 15:39:13 <Rubidium> petern: he meant that one couldn't see his because of blurry sattelite images 15:40:48 <williham> Damn sattelites, depriving us of roofs whereupon penises are pictured! 15:40:54 *** williham is now known as [wito] 15:41:12 *** Timitry [~Tim@p5B37DE22.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:41:13 <HackaLittleBit> 33°47'16.82"S,151°17'22.53"E 15:41:26 <HackaLittleBit> zoom in and find shark 15:41:37 <planetmaker> Rubidium: well, yeah, google's satellite images don't show it. 15:41:39 <HackaLittleBit> ggogle earth 15:42:06 <planetmaker> But given a resolution in sum - meter range _is_ possible from a low Earth orbit, one could see it :) 15:42:33 <planetmaker> *sub-meter 15:46:42 <petern> METRE 15:49:21 <Rubidium> metreman! 15:49:41 <planetmaker> tell that NASA :P 15:50:19 * Hendikins wonders if he's the only one having regular bouts of "WTF was I thinking?" when playing this game :P 15:52:14 <Rubidium> if it involves cars you should send it as a suggestion to Top Gear ;) 15:54:07 *** tkjacobsen [~tkjacobse@pppoe2-ves.broadcom.dk] has joined #openttd 15:59:01 *** el_en [~lanurmi@dyn-xdsl-83-150-113-243.nebulazone.fi] has joined #openttd 16:08:55 *** thingwath [~thingwath@dhcp-59-059.eduroam.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 16:09:07 *** Skiddles [~notme@cm144.psi148.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #openttd 16:11:45 <Belugas> mmh... i need more CDs than what this card can hold :( 16:15:09 <petern> :/ 16:15:19 *** const86 [~const@tower.mimas.ru] has joined #openttd 16:15:28 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm144.psi148.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:19:54 <eQualizer> Is this a bug or feature that when competitors go bankrupt, there isn't any question about bying them? 16:21:32 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fcf51.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #openttd 16:23:34 <Rubidium> eQualizer: playing with more than one competitor, right? 16:23:57 <eQualizer> Yeah. 16:24:07 <Rubidium> then it might very well be that the other competitors got asked whether they wanted to buy it 16:24:07 *** OwenS [~Akiramena@host86-160-63-111.range86-160.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 16:24:13 <eQualizer> ...though, my competitor is AdmiralAI, does that have something to do? 16:24:28 <Yexo> yes, NoAI competitors can't buy opponents 16:24:36 <Yexo> so it might very well be a bug 16:26:46 <eQualizer> Oh wait, could it have something to do with the "Allow bying shares from other companies" patch? 16:26:57 <eQualizer> Let's try what hapens. 16:27:56 <Belugas> hoo... yexo is going to add an email client to openttd :D nice ! 16:28:03 <Belugas> heheh 16:28:13 <Yexo> :) 16:28:25 <petern> as long as it doesn't need indented dropdown lists 16:28:50 *** DaleStan [~Dale@c-98-223-48-35.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:29:57 *** Sacro [~ben@static-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 16:36:45 *** const86 [~const@tower.mimas.ru] has quit [Quit: I'll be back] 16:37:44 *** const86 [~const@tower.mimas.ru] has joined #openttd 16:41:21 *** Fuco [dota.keys@wireless-73.fi.muni.cz] has quit [Quit: Quit] 16:41:35 <Yexo> petern: if that really bugs you that much, please revert that commit now instead of keeping complaining about it 16:43:02 *** Hendikins is now known as Hendikins|ZzZ 16:45:46 <Ammler> one more thread in graphics, and OpenGFX isn't on the frist page anymore :-( 16:47:13 *** Dred_furst [~Dred@resnet586.bournemouth.ac.uk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:48:31 *** Yeggstry is now known as Yeggs-away 16:49:48 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 16:50:57 *** thingwath [~thingwath@dhcp-59-059.eduroam.muni.cz] has quit [Quit: It's all over.] 16:52:41 *** Frostregen [~sucks@dslb-084-058-162-027.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: und weg] 16:53:39 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 16:55:58 *** Yexo [~Yexo@32-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has quit [Quit: bye] 16:56:15 *** Yexo [~Yexo@32-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has joined #openttd 16:59:52 *** divo [~asd@0x3e42e6e6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 17:02:38 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@161-18-80-78.strcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has joined #openttd 17:06:20 *** Rubidium [~Rubidium@rbijker.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:07:39 *** Rubidium [~Rubidium@rbijker.net] has joined #openttd 17:07:42 *** mode/#openttd [+o Rubidium] by ChanServ 17:08:40 <eQualizer> Is there a way to make trains just go trough stations without stopping? 17:09:05 <Yexo> give them a "via" order 17:09:26 <Yexo> that is, if you don't want them to stop at your destination station 17:09:40 <Yexo> if you don't want your trains to stop at stations in-between, give them a non-stop order 17:10:10 <eQualizer> I'm just doing this network, and I was thinking about buildin stations where tracks are, and I noticed trains just stop there, and continue. 17:10:30 <Yexo> use a non-stop order 17:11:33 *** Hirundo [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 17:13:04 *** lewymati [~lewymati@aejb37.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [] 17:13:10 <eQualizer> Ok, thanks. 17:13:42 *** HackaLittleBit [~HackaLitt@195-23-22-233.net.novis.pt] has quit [Quit: Bye for now!] 17:18:45 *** Swallow [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:21:33 *** thingwath [~thingwath@dhcp-59-059.eduroam.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 17:25:38 *** Klanticus [~quassel@143.107.231.49] has joined #openttd 17:26:54 *** HackaLittleBit [~HackaLitt@195-23-22-233.net.novis.pt] has joined #openttd 17:27:17 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 17:29:52 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:29:52 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 17:37:45 *** HackaLittleBit [~HackaLitt@195-23-22-233.net.novis.pt] has quit [Quit: Bye for now!] 17:38:24 *** Alyr [~a4farmar@dsl5401C6BB.pool.t-online.hu] has left #openttd [] 17:41:29 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F5CC59.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 17:41:34 *** RS-SM [~RSCN@NYUFGA-WLESSAUTHCLIENTS-01.NATPOOL.NYU.EDU] has joined #openttd 17:46:10 *** valhalla1w [~valhallas@a62-251-30-68.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 17:49:33 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:49:54 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 17:53:10 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@a62-251-30-68.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:57:16 *** RS-SM [~RSCN@NYUFGA-WLESSAUTHCLIENTS-01.NATPOOL.NYU.EDU] has quit [Quit: RS-SM] 18:06:02 *** thingwath [~thingwath@dhcp-59-059.eduroam.muni.cz] has quit [Quit: It's all over.] 18:06:46 *** Timitry [~Tim@p5B37DE22.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:21:22 *** Klanticus [~quassel@143.107.231.49] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:23:07 *** Dalton [~nobody@142.176.0.17] has joined #openttd 18:25:39 *** thingwath [~thingwath@comp55-35.vpn.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 18:34:46 <Dalton> so when i screw up and now have no vehicles to build.. what's the easy fix 18:36:08 <Yexo> what is your problem? Did you just start a new game? Did you go bankrupt? 18:36:14 <Dalton> just a new game 18:36:19 <Yexo> what year are you in? 18:36:22 <Dalton> i was trying to fix the AI dying 18:36:49 <Dalton> hmm 18:36:53 <Dalton> i did change that one time 18:37:05 <Dalton> maybe i'm too far back in time to have vehicles? 18:37:30 <Yexo> that depends on what year you are in and what newgrfs you use 18:37:36 <planetmaker> 1930 is save anyway 18:37:49 <planetmaker> Before that... use 2cc and egrvts 18:38:07 <planetmaker> some other train grfs may have early trains, too 18:38:20 <Dalton> i didn't touch the trains 18:38:26 <Dalton> i did go to 1900 18:38:31 <Dalton> k i'll check that 18:38:39 <Dalton> i guess it doesn't really matter what year it is 18:38:47 <Dalton> ty for the help guys :D 18:40:04 <Belugas> [14:40] <Dalton> i guess it doesn't really matter what year it is <--- guessed wrong ;) 18:41:06 <Dalton> sure did 18:41:07 <el_en> here's how one should write a bug report: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=2571243&group_id=239&atid=100239 18:41:52 *** Yeggs-away is now known as Yeggstry 18:43:00 <Dalton> that did it.. 18:43:36 <Dalton> i'm very happy somebody else had the love for TTD, and glad it's being kept alive 18:43:57 <glx> el_en: I like the bug details ;) 18:44:17 <el_en> me too :) 18:46:19 *** thingwath [~thingwath@comp55-35.vpn.muni.cz] has quit [Quit: Gah gah politics, fuck. Gah.] 18:46:25 <Prof_Frink> Dalton: patchman! 18:50:17 <planetmaker> el_en: with the attached image it's quite clear what's going wrong... 18:51:00 <glx> the only thing I see is he uses the wrong font 18:51:53 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: translators * r15834 /trunk/src/lang/ (5 files): 18:51:53 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Update: WebTranslator2 update to 2009-03-24 18:51:22 18:51:53 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: bulgarian - 13 fixed by Ar4i (13) 18:51:53 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: korean - 2 changed by dlunch (2) 18:51:53 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: latvian - 2 fixed by silentKnight (2) 18:51:55 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: luxembourgish - 14 fixed by Gubius (14) 18:51:55 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: polish - 22 fixed by xaxa (22) 18:52:14 <planetmaker> glx: exactly :) 18:52:26 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 18:52:26 <goodger> you'd have thought the fact that the actual _chat_ is rendering perfectly would alert him to the idea that it's only the UI that's problematic 18:53:28 * planetmaker feels reminded of something half-bred in the ~/ottd/fixing directory... 18:54:57 *** Skiddles [~notme@cm144.psi148.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:57:00 <planetmaker> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=42514 <--- seems like we have another "I have so many brilliant ideas but no knowledge to do anything about them" - person... 18:58:48 <Yexo> Belugas: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=42513 <- seems he didn't like our replies :) 19:00:25 <planetmaker> poor chap :P 19:00:43 *** RS-SM [~RSCN@NYUFGA-WLESSAUTHCLIENTS-01.NATPOOL.NYU.EDU] has joined #openttd 19:01:15 <Belugas> FUCK!!! 19:01:27 <Belugas> that is so silly... 19:01:38 <Belugas> who are we to ever contradict his Highness??? 19:02:15 <Rubidium> Belugas: uru 19:02:37 <Rubidium> that's how I'm supposed to write that, right? 19:03:40 <Dalton> i got your meaning... so sure 19:05:22 <Belugas> :D 19:06:54 <Belugas> but i guess he is really against eddi's reply. it was quite sarcastic :) 19:07:29 <Yexo> either that or against mine, not that I really care 19:07:44 <goodger> to be fair, the search function in phpbb is profoundly awful 19:07:53 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAEd29f.bae.pppool.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:08:19 <goodger> I've ran quite a few permutations of a search string that might find something I'm planning to discuss before, then started a thread and been covered in "dupe!" messages 19:09:08 <Yexo> goodger: that's not nice indeed, are you talking about a specific thread now? 19:10:38 <goodger> it was a while ago... 19:10:39 <goodger> let me see 19:12:11 *** toresbe [~toresbe@93.80-203-102.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 19:12:19 <toresbe> hello 19:12:27 <Yexo> hello toresbe 19:12:27 <toresbe> 0.7.0-RC2 gives me this error: 19:12:36 <toresbe> /usr/src/OpenTTD/compile/src/station_cmd.cpp:599: failed assertion `rect.top == st->rect.bottom' 19:12:50 <goodger> ah, my fifteen-year-old self is coming back to haunt me 19:12:52 <Yexo> you compiled openttd yourself? 19:12:54 <goodger> "The site should use XHTML 1.0 Strict & CSS 2.0, because unless you want to use SGML, run it through a 70s printing press, and then have the output displayed via a cine camera on a TV screen, there is no other way" 19:12:58 <toresbe> Yexo: nope. 19:13:23 <Yexo> can you reproduce that error? 19:13:48 <toresbe> Very quickly. It freezes within one second of the opening screen. 19:13:59 <toresbe> OS X, 10.5.6, Intel. 19:14:29 <toresbe> Some kind of a bird sound comes on the speakers, and then crashbang. 19:14:51 <goodger> I'm afraid I can't find the specific thread I mentioned 19:14:51 <goodger> it might easily have been in a completely different PHPBB forum 19:15:33 <Yexo> toresbe: do you know how to compile yourself? 19:16:03 *** Hirundo [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.7/2009021910]] 19:16:15 <toresbe> Yexo: Yes, but it would involve setting up a development environment on this Mac. It's a special-purpose machine, so it would not be social of me to do so... 19:16:24 <toresbe> (sorry!) 19:16:59 <Yexo> no problem 19:17:07 <toresbe> I'll download the Nightly. 19:17:43 <Yexo> did 0.7.0-RC1 gave the same error? 19:19:08 <toresbe> nightly crashes too 19:19:28 <frosch123> he, that is my assertion :) 19:20:05 <frosch123> toresbe: does the error occur after you/a competitior built some station, or does it happen after loading a game? 19:20:06 <toresbe> 0.6.3 works 19:20:16 <toresbe> frosch123: immediate upon startup 19:20:29 <frosch123> nice, then please post the game on bugs.openttd.org 19:20:49 <toresbe> Not of a game, but of the program itself 19:21:04 <Yexo> frosch123: upon startup = opentitle.dat 19:21:04 <frosch123> you mean in the main menu? 19:21:11 <toresbe> genau 19:21:18 <planetmaker> :D 19:21:57 <frosch123> well, then post your opntitle.dat, but only after you found the modified one :) 19:22:23 <toresbe> modified one? 19:22:31 <SmatZ> hehe 19:22:33 <toresbe> 0.6.3 works with the same data files 19:22:40 <planetmaker> :) 19:22:45 <SmatZ> toresbe: 0.6.3 doesn't have that assert 19:22:51 <planetmaker> toresbe: don't be fooled be those guys :) 19:23:00 <toresbe> I'm tired and easily confused ;) 19:23:01 <planetmaker> *by 19:24:40 <planetmaker> yeah... if I'm in that state, my irony detector also fails frequently 19:24:46 <planetmaker> ;) 19:24:56 *** Tefad [~tefad@c-75-75-1-141.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:25:10 *** RS-SM [~RSCN@NYUFGA-WLESSAUTHCLIENTS-01.NATPOOL.NYU.EDU] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:26:59 <el_en> Does TVE Internacional have EPG? 19:27:00 <planetmaker> it will be helpful, if you can tell people which version fails to work for you and which doesn't, toresbe 19:27:18 <planetmaker> epg = electromagnetic pulse generator? 19:27:48 <Yexo> planetmaker: you can just as well ask frosch123 when he introduced that assert 19:28:00 * planetmaker goes and grabs some food before I continue to write nonsense... 19:28:12 <frosch123> last autumn 19:28:18 <toresbe> planetmaker: 0.6.3 works, 0.7.0-rc2 and up do not. 19:28:23 <Yexo> toresbe: can you search your harddrive for opntitle.dat, and compare all of them? 19:28:35 <planetmaker> Yexo: well... :) 19:31:42 <toresbe> toresbe$ crc32 openttd*/*/*opntitle.dat 19:31:42 <toresbe> 4c5a0541 openttd-nightly/data/opntitle.dat 19:31:42 <toresbe> 4c5a0541 openttd/data/opntitle.dat 19:31:42 <toresbe> 4c5a0541 openttdRC2/data/opntitle.dat 19:33:09 <Yexo> hmm, crc32 gives 9bf1eed0 for opntitle.dat on my system 19:34:00 <SmatZ> same here, Yexo 19:34:16 <SmatZ> 9bf1eed0 that is :) 19:34:40 <Yexo> toresbe: can you verify the checksums of the files you downloaded? 19:35:03 <SmatZ> 769fb2e9 openttd-0.3.1/data/opntitle.dat 19:35:04 <SmatZ> e6d8ea51 openttd-0.3.3/data/opntitle.dat 19:35:09 <SmatZ> except these 19:35:27 <toresbe> hrmmm, hang on. 19:35:32 <SmatZ> 4c5a0541 openttd-0.1.4/opntitle.dat 19:35:34 <SmatZ> hahaha 19:35:38 <SmatZ> found it :) 19:35:51 <toresbe> :D 19:36:02 <toresbe> toresbe$ tar -tf openttd-data-sound-norwegian.tar | grep opntitle 19:36:02 <toresbe> openttd/data/opntitle.dat 19:36:11 <toresbe> I guess I screwed up the tar file some time ago, then. 19:36:23 <SmatZ> :-) 19:36:38 <Yexo> do you know you can put all the data files in documents? 19:36:49 <toresbe> Nope. 19:36:51 <toresbe> :) 19:36:53 <Yexo> that way you don't have to copy them to every instalation directory 19:37:20 <Yexo> no idea what the exact directory is for mac osx, but that'll be in readme.txt 19:37:26 <SmatZ> since 0.6 ;) 19:37:41 <SmatZ> I think :-x 19:38:02 * Yexo never used openttd before 0.6 :p 19:38:04 <toresbe> What files take precedence, then? 19:38:12 *** Klanticus [~quassel@monowall.cisc.usp.br] has joined #openttd 19:38:19 <SmatZ> toresbe: readme.txt 19:38:19 <Yexo> toresbe: that's also in readme.txt :) 19:38:59 <toresbe> Do NOT copy files included with OpenTTD into "shared" directories (explained in 19:38:59 <toresbe> the following sections) as sooner or later you will run into graphical glitches 19:38:59 <toresbe> when using other versions of the game. 19:39:05 <toresbe> *whistles innocently* 19:39:28 <petern> well 19:39:32 *** baldur [~balli@77.66.2.253] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:39:39 <petern> opntitle.dat should still work, no? 19:39:46 <SmatZ> it's mostly about openttd*.grf 19:40:01 <SmatZ> petern: I am just trying to find why (if) it fails 19:40:29 <toresbe> crashes anyway with the nightly, in the same way 19:41:20 <frosch123> so 0.1.4 :) sounds like a task for smatz :) 19:41:26 <SmatZ> :o) 19:41:28 <toresbe> is opntitle.dat included in modern versions? 19:41:37 <Yexo> yes 19:42:45 <toresbe> 9bf1eed0 19:42:53 <toresbe> there we go 19:43:57 <toresbe> whaddyaknow. 19:44:12 <toresbe> Doesn't crash if I rm the file in ~/Documents, but does if I don't. 19:44:17 <SmatZ> probably there is somewhere incorrect savegame version for save data 19:44:21 *** DaleStan [~Dale@c-98-223-48-35.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 19:44:28 <SmatZ> it crashes when loaded as regular game too 19:51:42 <SmatZ> hmm 19:53:11 <frosch123> maybe something with buoys? 19:53:24 <frosch123> like a buoy part of a usual station or similiar 19:53:53 <SmatZ> nope 19:54:11 <SmatZ> it seems savegame version 1 stores train station width in a different way 19:54:16 <SmatZ> than version 0 and 2 19:54:41 <frosch123> of course... what else? 19:55:13 <SmatZ> hmm it's probably unsolvable by looking at savegame version 19:55:35 <SmatZ> now I created a game in OTTD 0.1.4, and it had correct "OTTD-like" dimensions 19:55:40 *** KenjiE20 is now known as Guest1615 19:55:41 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.18.83.36] has joined #openttd 19:55:44 <petern> does it load in 0.6? 19:55:44 <SmatZ> so probably that opntitle.dat is broken 19:55:47 <petern> hm 19:56:08 <frosch123> petern: that assetion is part of the tileloop 19:56:08 <petern> probably doesn't come from 0.1.4, heh 19:56:21 <petern> meh 19:56:26 <petern> does it crash in 0.6? :p 19:56:31 <SmatZ> no 19:56:40 *** racetrack [~racetrack@c114-76-9-162.eburwd4.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: no. just, no.] 19:58:03 <SmatZ> I think it was caused by incorrect savegame conversion from TTD savegame 19:58:25 <SmatZ> in OTTD 0.1.x 19:58:28 <frosch123> SmatZ: if it is caused by a train station, maybe recomputing trainst_w and trainst_h helps 19:58:41 <petern> is it worth it? heh 19:58:47 <frosch123> why is that stored in savegame anyway... 19:58:49 <SmatZ> but I thought official support for TTD savegames was added in 0.3 :) 19:58:50 <SmatZ> hehe 19:59:00 <petern> is it a different intro game or was it really converted from ttd? :o 19:59:02 <SmatZ> frosch123: I agree :) 19:59:08 *** Guest1615 [~KenjiE20@92.1.245.19] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:59:21 <SmatZ> petern: it is very similiar to that one in TTD 19:59:30 <SmatZ> I think it is the same 19:59:35 <petern> not the same as the current one? 19:59:40 <SmatZ> no 19:59:42 <petern> ah 20:03:26 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: yexo * r15835 /trunk/src/ (52 files in 4 dirs): -Codechange: Prevent using the return value of DrawString as much as possible. 20:03:59 <SmatZ> hmm yes, definitely 0.1.4 converts that TTD savegame incorrectly 20:04:23 *** Maarten [~dutchusa@cpe-67-49-65-115.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:04:40 *** Maarten [~dutchusa@cpe-67-49-65-115.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 20:10:40 *** Dred_furst [~Dred@resnet586.bournemouth.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 20:12:36 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-82-20-28-97.brhm.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #openttd 20:20:49 <petern> hmm 20:21:13 <petern> there's a lot of y += 10 or y += 12 that should, i assume, eventually use the font height... 20:21:23 <Rubidium> yup 20:21:37 <petern> but no doubt you've already a patch for that :p 20:21:56 <Rubidium> I don't 20:22:48 <planetmaker> now that's interesting... a bug converting the title screen :) 20:23:30 <planetmaker> looks indeed like a task for the code-archaeologist SmatZ ;) 20:23:43 <el_en> gnnnnnn, the german Dr. House doesn't sound at all like House. 20:23:59 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r15836 /trunk/src/station_gui.cpp: -Fix [FS#2762]: acceptance not shown in the station window (swapping top and bottom isn't a great idea) 20:25:35 <SmatZ> planetmaker: the problem was in 0.1.x, and fixed already :) 20:25:48 <SmatZ> that savegame is broken 20:25:49 <planetmaker> :) 20:25:59 <planetmaker> what? Titlescreen is broken? 20:26:10 <planetmaker> :D 20:26:26 <planetmaker> now, that's even more incentive for a title screen competition ;) 20:26:31 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.11] has joined #openttd 20:26:34 <petern> no 20:26:45 <SmatZ> 0.1.4/0.2.1 title screen :-p 20:26:47 <petern> try reading :p 20:27:18 <petern> Rubidium, "1,this", "1, STR"? :p 20:27:22 <planetmaker> he ... :P 20:28:05 *** Alberth1 [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 20:28:10 <Rubidium> argh 20:29:32 <Alberth1> hello 20:29:53 <Yexo> hello Alberth1 20:30:22 *** pavel1269 [~quassel@r2ao16.net.upc.cz] has joined #openttd 20:33:51 *** divo [~asd@0x3e42e6e6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:35:16 *** KritiK [~Maxim@93-80-16-28.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 20:43:42 <petern> no i won't 20:43:44 <petern> hurt you mama 20:43:47 <petern> but it's getting so hard 20:43:48 <petern> ahhhhhhhhhhhh 20:46:26 <petern> it's always the same it's just a shame that's all 20:47:16 <Belugas> let's call it a quieter and less darkish mood :D 20:47:53 <petern> gotta have a bit of genesis-pop every now & then 20:47:55 <petern> well 20:47:57 <petern> i do :o 20:48:13 *** Gekz_ [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 20:48:26 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:50:01 <petern> so 20:50:05 <petern> hooooooooooooooome by the sea 20:50:13 <petern> * 4 20:53:18 <petern> damn, jackrack crashed :/ 20:58:29 <Brianetta> My branch line just won a subsidy (: 21:04:04 *** Klanticus [~quassel@monowall.cisc.usp.br] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:04:43 *** tkjacobsen [~tkjacobse@pppoe2-ves.broadcom.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:05:37 <petern> IT'S NO FUN BEING AN ILLEGAL ALIEN 21:05:46 <petern> oh 21:05:53 <petern> rhythmbox crash'd 21:06:26 <el_en> cra'sh 21:09:02 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fcf51.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:09:38 <Rubidium> hmm... that sounds like an oldie 21:12:52 *** pavel1269 [~quassel@r2ao16.net.upc.cz] has quit [Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Pohodlné vykecávánÃ. Odkudkoliv.] 21:13:07 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-76-109-51-190.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 21:13:24 <Nite_Owl> Hello all 21:18:36 <SmatZ> hello Nite_Owl 21:18:53 <Nite_Owl> Hello SmatZ 21:20:31 <planetmaker> hello Nite_Owl 21:20:49 <Nite_Owl> Hello planetmaker 21:24:09 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r15837 /trunk/src/ (gfx.cpp station_gui.cpp): -Codechange: support SETX(Y) with RTL text, swap alignment for RTL text. 21:28:01 *** valhalla1w is now known as valhallasw 21:29:14 *** Yeggstry is now known as Yeggzzz 21:35:07 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F5CC59.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 21:49:41 *** HackaLittleBit [~HackaLitt@195-23-22-233.net.novis.pt] has joined #openttd 21:52:38 *** Limpaar [~Limpaar@84-50-128-5-dsl.rkv.estpak.ee] has joined #openttd 21:53:02 <Limpaar> Hello everyone 21:53:14 <SmatZ> hello Limpaar 21:53:18 <Limpaar> is there any forum admins? 21:53:25 <SmatZ> sure 21:53:44 <Nite_Owl> Hello Limpaar 21:53:48 <Limpaar> registered to forum but I did not recieve activation mail 21:54:12 <SmatZ> Limpaar: for how long have you been waiting? 21:54:24 <Limpaar> approx 5 min :D 21:54:33 <planetmaker> :D 21:54:38 <SmatZ> :-p 21:54:45 <SmatZ> wait for tommorow 21:54:54 <Limpaar> not used to wait for confirmation mail longer than 5 min :D 21:54:58 <SmatZ> with my freemail, sometimes emails are stuck for hours 21:55:05 <SmatZ> because they are "greylisted" or such 21:55:20 <SmatZ> waiting for "it's not a spamsite" validation 21:56:32 <Limpaar> well if my registration is processed by system then there should be no problem cos I'm using Gmail and it is recieving e-mails really fast... but if some person have to approve it then I might really wait till tomorrow 21:56:35 *** loxs [~loxs@83.228.122.198] has joined #openttd 21:56:56 <Yexo> Limpaar: nobody has to approve your email 21:57:02 <Rubidium> it's not manually approved 21:57:11 <Yexo> you should receive it immediatly, but like all email there sometimes might be a delay 21:57:13 <loxs> hi folks, I can't figure out how to start a dedicated server with the "africa and middle east" map. Could you help please? 21:57:38 <Yexo> loxs: make a savegame of that map, then start openttd with ./openttd -D -g savegame.sav 21:58:28 <Limpaar> hehee... I can't figure out how to upgrade my OTTD so that I can play server game :D .. rookie 21:58:36 <loxs> hm, thanks Yexo... If I save some specific game rules in that save, will they be available on the dedicated server after that? 21:58:57 <Yexo> loxs: yes, all game-relevant settings are stored in the savegame 21:59:14 <Yexo> Limpaar: most servers are still using 0.6.3, so you'll have to download that to play on those servers 21:59:22 <Yexo> in general you always need the same version as the server 22:00:11 *** Alberth1 [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 22:00:23 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r15838 /trunk/src/ (disaster_cmd.cpp namegen.cpp): -Fix: MSVC 64 bits warnings 22:00:44 <Limpaar> yeah... I'm not used to be such an idiot... but I have no idea what are you talking about... it's just that lately server game that I have been playing became unaccesible for me due to version 22:01:14 <Yexo> Limpaar: what openttd version do you have yourself? And what server did you play on? 22:01:48 <Limpaar> good quiestions... where could I find the answers? where can I check the version? 22:02:04 <Yexo> start openttd and look at the title bar 22:02:07 <Limpaar> I was playing CyberCenny's map... I have no idea what server is it on 22:02:26 <Limpaar> yup.. 0.6.3 22:02:39 <SmatZ> ???? how do you know you can't join that server when you don't know what server it was? 22:02:41 <Yexo> http://www.openttd.org/en/servers List of servers, you'll see that CyberKenny is using 0.7.0-RC1 22:02:55 <Yexo> so you'll have to download 0.7.0-RC1 to play on that server 22:03:14 <Limpaar> teah.. now we made it to the point why I came here.. how can I update it 22:03:26 <Yexo> just download 0.7.0-RC1 22:03:35 <Yexo> http://binaries.openttd.org/releases/0.7.0-RC1/ 22:03:41 <Rubidium> you ran the installer for 0.6.3? 22:04:01 <Yexo> http://binaries.openttd.org/releases/0.7.0-RC1/openttd-0.7.0-RC1-windows-win32.exe <- that's the windows installer 22:04:09 <Limpaar> I have no idea.. just downloaded the game and played until now :D 22:06:13 <Limpaar> wow... and should I download all win32 files?... I'm just wondering why noone is making all-in-one packs 22:06:24 <Yexo> Limpaar: no, just the second link I gave you 22:06:27 <Yexo> that's only 1 file 22:08:27 * Limpaar trying the stuff 22:09:17 <Limpaar> yehhouu.. it works... thanx Yexo :D 22:09:56 <Yexo> have fun playing 22:09:59 <HackaLittleBit> Hello Developers I have made big mistake in my post about splitting tunnels and bridges. I assumed that bridge ellement between bridge heads were class 9. This was the case in ttdPatch. Not so in Openttd. Apology for the confusion, feel bad about it. :( 22:10:12 <Limpaar> I guess I don't need the forum anymore (it is too huge anyway especially if you don't know what you are looking for) 22:10:45 *** racetrack [~rob@lena.its.monash.edu.au] has joined #openttd 22:10:48 *** loxs [~loxs@83.228.122.198] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:11:20 *** Limpaar [~Limpaar@84-50-128-5-dsl.rkv.estpak.ee] has quit [Quit: Bye for now!] 22:11:24 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.11] has quit [Quit: ecke] 22:12:37 <HackaLittleBit> What would you like me to do. Post this info in the forum or leave that post alone? 22:14:12 <Yexo> HackaLittleBit: just don't worry about it, if you want to edit your original post, that's fine, but don't feel obliged to do so 22:14:48 <Yexo> adding the correct information to that thread (in one way or another) is the best you can do now, that prevent other people making the same mistake in the future 22:14:58 <HackaLittleBit> Ok will edit it 22:15:05 *** Cybert1nus [~Cybertinu@a82-95-167-159.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 22:17:30 <HackaLittleBit> thanks you all for the fabulous work. bye 22:17:33 *** HackaLittleBit [~HackaLitt@195-23-22-233.net.novis.pt] has quit [Quit: Bye for now!] 22:18:52 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r15839 /trunk/src/highscore_gui.cpp: -Fix: high score text was (partly) off-screen when using RTL and the window was wider than 640 pixels 22:22:12 <SmatZ> a nice person he is 22:22:42 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@a82-95-167-159.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:23:07 <Rubidium> Yoda you speak like 22:23:32 <Rubidium> like Yoda I spoke 22:27:55 <SmatZ> yeah :o) 22:28:52 <SmatZ> I feel a bit Jedish when I speak this way 22:31:13 <toresbe> Jews don't like Yoda speak. 22:31:35 <toresbe> actually, "a nice person he is" 22:31:41 <toresbe> *is* Yiddish vernacular. 22:34:53 *** Cybert1nus is now known as Cybertinus 22:35:55 *** HackaLittleBit [~HackaLitt@195-23-22-153.net.novis.pt] has joined #openttd 22:43:20 *** spyroboy [~spyroboy@bas2-hamilton14-1167920440.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #openttd 22:44:23 *** eMjay88 [~michael@60.241.9.164] has joined #openttd 22:44:47 <eMjay88> morning all 22:45:57 *** spyroboy [~spyroboy@bas2-hamilton14-1167920440.dsl.bell.ca] has left #openttd [] 22:47:32 <SmatZ> morning for you, eMjay88 22:48:09 <Nite_Owl> Hello eMjay88 22:48:16 *** Frostregen [~sucks@84.58.162.27] has joined #openttd 22:48:25 *** thingwath [~thingwath@morana.sks2.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 22:50:05 <Sacro> What are the dependancies for OpenTTD? 22:50:12 <Sacro> I have libpng, sdl, fontconfig, icu 22:50:15 <Sacro> do I need boost? 22:50:24 <Yexo> only for cargodest 22:50:27 <petern> no 22:50:39 <Sacro> Ahh, right 22:50:41 <Sacro> not for trunk 22:50:43 <Sacro> that's cool 22:51:17 <Yexo> http://www.openttd.org/en/development that page lists all libraries 22:51:42 <Yexo> except those you already have, that's zlib and freetype2 22:52:18 <Sacro> Yeah 22:52:19 *** thingwath [~thingwath@morana.sks2.muni.cz] has quit [] 22:52:25 <Sacro> zlib is already covered 22:52:28 <Sacro> probably by fontconfig 22:52:33 *** thingwath [~thingwath@morana.sks2.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 22:52:37 <petern> libpng 22:52:49 <Sacro> Ah 22:53:00 <Sacro> right, namcap flags no errors 22:59:48 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@a82-95-167-159.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:01:05 <Sacro> @seen snorre 23:01:05 <DorpsGek> Sacro: I have not seen snorre. 23:03:02 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-76-109-51-190.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Read You Soon] 23:04:34 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 23:08:56 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:08:56 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 23:15:55 *** Frostregen [~sucks@84.58.162.27] has quit [Quit: und weg] 23:20:51 <Belugas> ho hoo... that Limpaar sounds a bit like "i do not know what I'm doing and I can't be arsed to serach a little bit" 23:22:45 <welshdragon> argh 23:23:04 <welshdragon> the cargodest thread is getting spammed 23:23:22 <Yexo> s/cargodest thread/development forum/ :) 23:24:35 <Rubidium> s/development // 23:25:00 <welshdragon> yes, i blame 2007alain2007 23:29:08 *** energetic [~opera@ip82-139-119-221.lijbrandt.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:38:49 <Belugas> spammed... as if there was anything new being spammed... 23:44:30 <Belugas> and that Alain guy, more and more, sounds like Richk 23:44:45 <Belugas> can you update? i'm doing something else :D 23:46:05 <Rubidium> updating is easy; just do a svn up ;) 23:49:50 <Belugas> but.. i'm tooo tiiiiired... please.... do it.... for me.... 23:49:55 <Belugas> hehe 23:50:23 <toresbe> Yexo: what was the conclusion about my halfwaybugreport? 23:50:31 <welshdragon> he's just a ;tard 23:51:03 <glx> <@Rubidium> updating is easy; just do a svn up ;) <-- but sometime there are conflicts ;) 23:51:31 <Yexo> toresbe: that you were using an invalid savegame as opntitle.dat 23:51:45 <toresbe> Yexo: ...shouldn't it not crash even if that is the case, though? 23:51:55 <Yexo> the opntitle.dat bundled with 0.1.4 and 0.2.1 was invalid 23:51:56 <toresbe> like a big "IDIOT! YOU ARE USING A BROKEN SAVEGAME!" sign? 23:52:12 <Yexo> it should, but currently it doesn't :) 23:52:26 <toresbe> Fair enough. :) 23:52:41 <toresbe> Thanks for the help though, i realize I didn't thank y'all, sorry. 23:53:23 <Yexo> + the fact that the savegame is invalid isn't detected during load time, but when running the game 23:53:47 <Yexo> as soon as the game is loaded the game doesn't know whether the crash was caused by a faulty savegame or by a programming error 23:54:48 <toresbe> What, specifically, is the problem with the file? 23:55:04 <Yexo> I don't know, ask SmatZ for the details 23:55:53 <Rubidium> glx: then assume svn up --accept postpone 23:56:27 <glx> anyway updating a patch requires knowledge and time 23:59:15 <toresbe> Yexo: I'll go to bed and check for scrollback. :)