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07:37:17 *** maristo [~maristo@host217-114-156-151.pppoe.mark-itt.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:38:33 *** yorick [~Yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 07:39:20 *** reldred [~reldred@wirele5.lnk.telstra.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 07:55:23 *** Exl [~myself@cp1224652-a.roemd1.lb.home.nl] has joined #openttd 08:07:40 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1FA97.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 08:13:14 *** [com]buster [~eternal@cust-03-55bf402e.adsl.scarlet.nl] has joined #openttd 08:21:08 *** Zahl [~Zahl@f051048100.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 08:22:56 <FloSoft> i've read "rail_gun.cpp", not "gui" *lol* 08:24:37 <petern> oh, you didn't know ottd is based on quake 2? 08:25:19 <petern> @seen rub 08:25:19 <DorpsGek> petern: I have not seen rub. 08:25:20 <petern> @seen rub* 08:25:20 <DorpsGek> petern: rub* could be Rubidium (1 week, 3 days, 12 hours, 39 minutes, and 31 seconds ago), rube (9 weeks, 4 days, 11 hours, 57 minutes, and 14 seconds ago), rubyruy (27 weeks, 3 days, 22 hours, 29 minutes, and 46 seconds ago), or Rubidium_ (43 weeks, 2 days, 21 hours, 19 minutes, and 34 seconds ago) 08:39:52 *** divo [~asd@0x3e42e6e6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 08:41:18 <Forked> rub a dub dub 09:09:10 <petern> three men in a tub 09:35:35 *** divo [~asd@0x3e42e6e6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:35:46 *** Biolunar [mahdi@blfd-4db07480.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #openttd 09:51:03 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 10:05:25 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 10:12:12 *** racetrack [~racetrack@c114-76-16-69.eburwd4.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 10:15:22 <planetmaker> I've got a nforenum error/warning I don't understand: A portion of sprite 2411 could not be processed. 10:16:05 <planetmaker> http://paste.openttd.org/182929 <-- that's how the code looks like 10:16:32 <planetmaker> the first of the two pasted sprites works nicely. The 2nd, nearly identical one, triggers that error... 10:20:28 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590feabc.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #openttd 10:20:42 *** nudelundbrot [~quassel@p57AFFFAC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 10:21:47 <nudelundbrot> is there a way to diable breakdowns with the basic setup? 10:23:00 *** stuffcorpse [~rick@121.98.136.241] has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:23:30 <petern> difficulty settings 10:26:57 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has joined #openttd 10:27:46 *** stuffcorpse [~rick@121.98.136.241] has joined #openttd 10:34:08 <nudelundbrot> ty 10:34:11 *** nudelundbrot [~quassel@p57AFFFAC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:36:21 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1FA97.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:37:09 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:48:49 *** Klanticus [~quassel@143.107.181.10] has joined #openttd 10:52:48 <planetmaker> found the reason for above error I got with nforenum. Bad comment a bit later... 10:56:52 <planetmaker> but... I've another question: dbg: [sprite] Ignoring 12 unused extra bytes from the sprite from 2ccdj_ivb at position 168866 <-- what's an easy way to find out which sprite is causing that? 10:57:14 <planetmaker> the message is from the console I started OpenTTD in. 10:59:31 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.18.75.64] has joined #openttd 10:59:37 *** FloSoft [bouncer@tyra.ra-doersch.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:03:00 *** Hirundo [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 11:21:43 <frosch123> planetmaker: that means you are using a broken grfcodec, as that message is generated for realsprites 11:21:57 <planetmaker> uh? 11:22:01 <planetmaker> Can you explain? 11:22:35 <planetmaker> I'm using GRFCodec version 0.9.10 r2103E 11:22:46 <planetmaker> which is not that old... 11:23:09 <frosch123> the size of realsprites are usually stored in the grf using the width and the height of the sprite. additionally also the number of bytes. the error is triggered when "width * height != bytes" 11:23:12 <planetmaker> and each of us three probably gets the same as our MD5 sums agree. 11:23:26 <planetmaker> hm... 11:23:39 <planetmaker> so... nothing we can do about? 11:23:48 <frosch123> file a bug report for grfcodec :) 11:24:08 <planetmaker> first nforenum. then OpenTTD utf-8. Now grfcodec :D 11:24:26 <planetmaker> found an error in each while looking at 2cc train set. nice :) 11:24:57 <planetmaker> thank you for the explanation. 11:25:14 <frosch123> nars2 and such also had lots of those errors which were fixed by upgrading grfcodec 11:25:47 <planetmaker> hm, ok. I'll check my grfcodec version for updates 11:25:52 <frosch123> though i don't know when it was fixed or broken, and dalestan could also not remember to have fixed anything :p 11:26:00 <planetmaker> haha :) 11:26:20 <Ammler> planetmaker: don't you use HEAD already? 11:27:00 <frosch123> however, pikkas version was a lot older, so maybe the bug just hided somewhere :p 11:27:25 <frosch123> as 2103 is indeed quite new 11:27:31 <planetmaker> Ammler: not quite as I see it. But nearly. Like 12 revisions or so. Head is 2112 11:27:57 <frosch123> yup, and the pikka stuff was encountered about a year ago 11:28:03 <Ammler> r2111 11:28:14 <fjb> "Union Pacific once calculated one of their third-generation turbines could pull 734 freight cars (a train over 7 mi (11 km) long) at a steady 12 mph (19 km/h)." They must have used a bigger map patch. 11:28:30 <Ammler> 0.9.10 r2103 is the newest, afaik 11:28:46 <Ammler> (there are other things in that svn repo) 11:30:29 <planetmaker> hm. well. grfcodec 2103E is what I get when I svn up to 2112 in the folder 11:31:09 <planetmaker> whatever that "E" means... 11:31:28 <Ammler> endian maybe? 11:31:36 <Ammler> you have mac? 11:31:48 <frosch123> "GRFCodec version 0.9.10 r1655E" <- also for me 11:31:48 <planetmaker> no. It's on my suse machine 11:33:58 <Ammler> hmm 11:34:05 <planetmaker> http://paste.openttd.org/182931 <-- that's how I get my grfcodec 11:35:04 <planetmaker> so... I *think* I have an as recent grfcodec as I can make :) 11:35:40 <planetmaker> ok, I'll make a bug report at grfcodec thread :) 11:36:32 <frosch123> btw. grf2html will tell you which sprite is broken, if that is of any interest for you :) 11:36:56 <Ammler> planetmaker: rm *.d is mising in the clean 11:37:05 <planetmaker> oh, yes, it is. Thanks, I'll have a look :) 11:42:21 <frosch123> $new =~ s/M/E/; <- the "E" means "M" modified :) 11:43:40 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAEb1b0.bae.pppool.de] has joined #openttd 11:44:39 <planetmaker> oh. hm. yes, might be as I changed the Makefile.local. different boost path 11:45:19 <frosch123> hmm, i just noticed that I use a very old grfcodec myself :s seems like I forgot to set up a propery symlink 11:46:07 <planetmaker> :) 11:46:22 <Ammler> planetmaker: when does that "error" apear? 11:46:33 <planetmaker> when you open the purchase list 11:46:40 <planetmaker> then openttd issues that error once 11:46:58 <planetmaker> I'm testing with OpenTTD r16254(M) 11:47:00 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAEb1b0.bae.pppool.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:47:03 <planetmaker> where M is my clientpatches 11:47:11 <planetmaker> but that shouldn#t matter :P 11:47:58 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r16364 /branches/0.7/ (6 files in 6 dirs): 11:47:58 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: [0.7] -Backport from trunk: 11:47:58 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: - Fix: The previously selected NewGRF station type was still remembered after switching to a different game without newstations enabled, preventing stations from being built (r16363) 11:47:58 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: - Fix: Pointer incremented with wrong count (r16361) 11:47:58 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: - Fix: Delete invalid depots in TTD savegames caused by improper SVXConverter conversions (r16357) 11:49:55 <Ammler> dbg: [sprite] Ignoring 252 unused extra bytes from the sprite from /2ccdj at position 34063 11:50:03 <Ammler> I needed to scroll 11:52:56 <Ammler> it happens with the 2nd class coach 3rd gen 11:53:31 <frosch123> I guess you are using a modified version of 2cc :) 11:53:31 <planetmaker> oh, there's even more? darn 11:53:43 <planetmaker> no, I didn't click each single vehicle 11:53:58 <planetmaker> frosch123: yes. the latest snapshot of the repository. 11:54:21 <planetmaker> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/2cctrainset/repository 11:54:45 <Ammler> frosch123: version 1.0 :P 11:55:04 <planetmaker> Ammler: is an anonymous checkout possible? 11:55:30 <Ammler> yes, of course, else we wouldn't host it :-) 11:55:48 <planetmaker> Ammler: not version 1.0. I found two strings which were not translated somehow 11:57:36 <planetmaker> what's the anonymous checkout link? hg clone http//dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/2cctrainset ? 11:57:48 <planetmaker> Ammler: ^ 11:57:58 <frosch123> oh, hg, that's why svn is failing :) 11:58:29 <Ammler> pm, you just edited the wiki page about ;-) 11:58:40 <Ammler> http://mz.openttdcoop.org/hg/2cctrainset 11:58:47 <planetmaker> :) 11:59:47 <planetmaker> I liked hg a bit more :) 12:00:32 <frosch123> he, almost every sprite is broken :p 12:00:38 *** reldred [~reldred@115.131.199.226] has joined #openttd 12:01:58 * petern wonders if fs#2907 can be resolved before the next release 12:02:04 * petern > lunch 12:02:36 <frosch123> planetmaker: what is the eights number in the real sprite definition? 12:02:41 <frosch123> +h 12:02:43 <frosch123> -s 12:03:03 <frosch123> hmm, whatever, 8th 12:03:33 <planetmaker> frosch123: you mean generally? 12:03:49 <planetmaker> or a particular one? 12:04:12 <frosch123> to my knowledge you are using one too much 12:04:42 <frosch123> 6044 sprites/mus/pcx/479.pcx 1 32 01 12 77 -15 -8 7 <- x, y, compr, h, w, xrel, yrel, ??? 12:06:41 <planetmaker> // Format: spritenum pcxfile xpos ypos comp ysize xsize xrel yrel dir 12:06:52 <planetmaker> that's what the comment in the wagon files say. 12:07:33 <frosch123> oh, if I run grfcodec myself, it encodes correctly 12:08:04 <planetmaker> :) DJNekkid may answer that better than me:) 12:08:17 <frosch123> "-c" breaks it :) 12:08:23 <planetmaker> oh? 12:08:27 <planetmaker> hm 12:08:33 <planetmaker> then we should remove that :P 12:08:46 <frosch123> and append that to your bug report 12:09:03 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r16365 /tags/0.7.1-RC2/ (5 files in 3 dirs): -Release: 0.7.1-RC2 12:09:04 <frosch123> so it was never fixed, just noone found the trigger 12:09:11 <planetmaker> ok, you say that's still a bug then? 12:09:13 <planetmaker> ok 12:10:44 <Ammler> nobody is using the RCs 12:10:56 <Ammler> oh, 3 servers 12:12:06 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:9e8:3a5f:39f4:d887] has joined #openttd 12:12:09 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 12:12:27 <frosch123> planetmaker: when testing the "newer" versions we reencoded the buggy newgrf, and as there was nothing to clip the bug was not encountered :) 12:13:09 *** Alberth1 [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 12:13:21 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:14:43 <planetmaker> he. Nice. 12:15:20 <planetmaker> holy sh***. 12:15:43 <planetmaker> OpenTTD died without any warning... I need to get current trunk, I guess :) 12:16:29 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-86-24-144-96.winn.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #openttd 12:18:08 <frosch123> planetmaker: of course you can also work-around that way, just append a "grfcodec -d 2ccdj.grf" and "grfcodec -e 2ccdj.grf" at the end :p 12:18:47 <planetmaker> haha :) 12:18:57 <planetmaker> not much point, I guess :) 12:19:26 <frosch123> you get a smaller file and none of those errors :) 12:19:41 <planetmaker> Smaller file than without -c? 12:20:15 <frosch123> likely also that 12:21:12 <Ammler> well, "-c" isn't worht 12:21:15 <Ammler> around 3% 12:21:31 <planetmaker> may a faulty newgrf send openttd into nirvana without assert, just die? 12:22:02 <planetmaker> please try anyone to click on the sharknoose train in the depot. 12:23:39 *** oskari89 [~oskari89@dsl-kpobrasgw1-ff7cc100-243.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 12:24:34 <frosch123> yeah, segfault :) 12:25:02 <frosch123> likely some string stuff 12:25:11 <planetmaker> hm. 12:25:24 <planetmaker> an undefined string will kill things? 12:26:10 <Alberth1> or a pointer to nothing useful 12:26:39 <frosch123> looks like it tries to draw a NULL string 12:26:54 <glx> a bt may help :) 12:27:21 <planetmaker> http://paste.openttd.org/182932 <-- I have that. Does it help? 12:28:14 <glx> the problem is additionnal text in grf 12:28:38 <frosch123> GetGRFStringPtr returns NULL 12:29:08 <frosch123> and FormatString does not check 12:29:23 <frosch123> so maybe GetGRFStringPtr should return some "" instead 12:29:38 <frosch123> "stupid grf coders" :p 12:30:04 <planetmaker> hm... yes. I removed all "" strings which were originally in there. Which were a lot. 12:30:37 <planetmaker> it clutters string files a lot to have like 50 empty string definitions ;) 12:30:37 <glx> anyway check how it behaves in ttdpatch 12:30:49 <planetmaker> uh.... I'd need to install that :P 12:30:53 <Alberth1> planetmaker: 1 would be enough :p 12:31:01 <planetmaker> he :) 12:31:05 <Ammler> and you would need to make a ttdp version of the grf 12:31:21 <Ammler> with limited IDs 12:31:36 <planetmaker> urgs. yeah. TTDP cannot handle this grf. 12:31:53 <planetmaker> I think all(?) engines have IDs which are too high for TTDP 12:32:05 <glx> just write a test grf for the empty/removed string 12:33:48 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.11] has joined #openttd 12:36:21 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm71.epsilon180.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #openttd 12:36:52 <frosch123> hmm, ok, passing uint16 for a stringid does not issue a warning 12:37:23 <planetmaker> frosch123: DJNekkid just mentioned correctly: an undefined string results in "(Undefined String)" 12:37:34 <planetmaker> I've seen that when I was translating and messing up stringIDs. 12:38:00 <frosch123> http://devs.openttd.org/~frosch/diffs/fixpm.diff <- fixes it :) 12:39:08 <glx> hehe 12:39:11 *** dragonhorseboy [~dragonhor@modemcable160.111-57-74.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #openttd 12:39:14 <dragonhorseboy> hey 12:39:43 *** reldred [~reldred@115.131.199.226] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:40:01 <glx> maybe too strict frosch123 12:41:05 <frosch123> I cannot say I really understand how the stringhandling works :) 12:41:08 <planetmaker> confirmed, frosch123 12:41:21 <dragonhorseboy> had to ask if any of you would know some german? 12:41:38 <planetmaker> yes 12:43:19 <frosch123> glx: I think the fix is correct, def_string needs to be a correct stringid 12:43:41 <frosch123> and it is only used when there is no action4 for the string 12:43:58 *** [com]buster [~eternal@cust-03-55bf402e.adsl.scarlet.nl] has quit [Quit: Operator, give me an exit] 12:44:00 <dragonhorseboy> planetmaker do you perhaps know if there's a term for 'historic steam trainset photos' or close? I kinda want to try find some train makeup shots rather than just only individual locomotives themself 12:44:07 <glx> right it looks like other features 12:44:50 <planetmaker> puh... dragonhorseboy 12:45:09 <dragonhorseboy> :) 12:45:27 <planetmaker> I'm not sure what it is what you want :) 12:45:55 <planetmaker> what's a "train makeup shot"? 12:46:30 <dragonhorseboy> heh sorry sometimes I don't type so well.. 12:46:56 <dragonhorseboy> I meant like partial or whole view of a train from the locomotive to the last freight/passenger car 12:47:36 <planetmaker> hm. what about just "historic trains"? 12:47:47 <planetmaker> hm. what about just "historic steam trains"? 12:48:10 <planetmaker> and put that into google's image search? 12:48:19 <planetmaker> not the usual text search 12:49:40 <dragonhorseboy> wish it was but blah 12:49:50 <dragonhorseboy> thanks anyway planetmaker .. btw what kind of planets do you make? :P 12:49:59 <planetmaker> mostly terrestrial 12:50:05 <planetmaker> :) 12:50:18 <petern> burp 12:50:25 <planetmaker> they get fat gasous planets all by themselves. Cheers, petern 12:50:33 <frosch123> r4832 introduced that stuff :s 12:50:43 <planetmaker> he... long time ago :) 12:50:47 <petern> introduced burps? 12:51:01 <frosch123> http://devs.openttd.org/~frosch/diffs/fixpm.diff <- that one 12:51:01 <planetmaker> no. They were already introduced in pre-r1 12:51:48 <frosch123> maybe it was correct back then, who knows :) 12:51:58 <dragonhorseboy> :p 12:52:15 <glx> planetmaker: action 04 in pre-r1 ? 12:52:20 <glx> I don't think 12:53:48 <petern> and we still don't do generic strings :D 12:54:01 <frosch123> nor will we ever do 12:55:09 *** ctibor_ [~ctibor@77.48.228.43] has joined #openttd 12:56:11 <planetmaker> :) 12:56:35 <planetmaker> glx: yes. even then muh could be translated to m?h and grrr ;) 12:56:47 <planetmaker> maybe even to woof 12:57:18 <planetmaker> only thing missing was sanity parsing :P 13:06:02 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: frosch * r16366 /trunk/src/newgrf.cpp: -Fix: Use a valid StringID as fall-back when undefined generic newgrf strings of vehicles are requested. 13:06:17 <planetmaker> :) 13:09:41 <Ammler> so dj has to set min version for 2cc :-) 13:09:53 <Ammler> or will you fix the grf? 13:11:23 <frosch123> Ammler: You will leave the "(undefined string)" :p 13:11:40 <frosch123> s/will/want to/ :( 13:12:27 <Ammler> ah, I thought, the alternative is a simple empty string "" 13:13:30 <Ammler> but that might be worse for debugging 13:16:33 *** z-MaTRiX [~matrix@nude.lesbianbath.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:16:34 *** SHRIKEE [~shrikee@84-105-53-197.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #openttd 13:16:35 *** SHRIKEE [~shrikee@84-105-53-197.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:17:45 *** NukeBuster [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has joined #openttd 13:18:02 *** dragonhorseboy [~dragonhor@modemcable160.111-57-74.mc.videotron.ca] has left #openttd [] 13:19:08 *** SHRIKEE [~shrikee@84-105-53-197.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #openttd 13:21:55 <planetmaker> I fixed the grf 13:21:55 *** SHRIKEE [~shrikee@84-105-53-197.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:22:01 <planetmaker> undefined strings are evil :) 13:22:19 <planetmaker> and not intended. It was another left-over from my "remove empty strings" session. 13:22:53 <planetmaker> and I removed the -c parameter to grfcodec, too :) 13:35:55 <Eddi|zuHause> wtf is GGZ? 13:36:01 *** SHRIKEE [~shrikee@84-105-53-197.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #openttd 13:36:35 <planetmaker> ganz grosser Zirkus 13:36:37 <Eddi|zuHause> (http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=43650) 13:36:48 <planetmaker> I wondered the same actually :P 13:36:56 <_ln> planetmaker: english only! 13:37:26 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1FA97.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 13:37:50 <planetmaker> _ln: humour only! 13:38:32 *** ctibor_ [~ctibor@77.48.228.43] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:39:27 <yorick> _ln: No Unauthorised Bots! 13:40:54 <Belugas> lol 13:41:23 <Ammler> :-) 13:41:28 *** _ln was kicked from #openttd by DorpsGek ['english' is not a word in English!] 13:41:36 <Alberth1> http://www.ggzgamingzone.org/ looks like what he refers to 13:41:44 <Ammler> does svn produce traffic, if you run svn up but nothing to download? 13:42:08 <Alberth1> Ammler: yes, it checks whether there are new things 13:42:23 <planetmaker> haha :) 13:43:12 <Ammler> planetmaker: you were close :-) 13:45:04 <planetmaker> what does it mean then? 13:46:08 <Ammler> hmm, ggz is empty :-) 13:46:16 <planetmaker> :) 13:48:26 *** _ln [~lanurmi@dyn-xdsl-83-150-113-243.nebulazone.fi] has joined #openttd 13:50:00 <petern> GGZ is stupid 13:52:11 *** SHRIKEE [~shrikee@84-105-53-197.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit [Quit: SHRIKEE] 13:56:59 *** lewymati [~lewymati@aeiz56.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 13:57:11 * Belugas thinks it's stupid to try to conncet to all those engines... ICE, GGZ etc etc... as soon as something comes up, we shold hook to it... 13:57:13 <Belugas> bla 13:57:16 *** Klanticus [~quassel@143.107.181.10] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:09:13 <petern> indeed 14:10:32 <petern> i need to rewrite the linux ninjam client :( 14:10:32 *** Xaroth [~Xaroth@86.92.135.101] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:11:52 *** Xaroth [~Xaroth@86.92.135.101] has joined #openttd 14:13:45 <_ln> anyone visited gibraltar? 14:14:14 <Belugas> you have found why the bpm is off petern? 14:14:18 <petern> ? 14:14:58 <petern> the bpm is fine, i meant my playing was off 14:15:17 <petern> like i was playing at 120 and the bpm was set to 110, or somethign :p 14:15:25 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:16:12 <petern> i was playing badly, hmm 14:16:37 <petern> ninjam doesn't play nice on 64 bit systems 14:17:08 <petern> and i want separate outputs so i don't record the metronome 14:19:54 <Belugas> ok 14:20:07 <petern> need a few beers first ;) 14:20:24 <Belugas> for some reasons, i could not make a perfect match on the ninjam's beat and my onw unit 14:20:33 <petern> hmm 14:20:36 <Belugas> beers would indeed help :) 14:20:50 <petern> well i could test it, but didn't notice any problem 14:27:09 <Belugas> i did when i tried to put a drumming on it. i could not get my unit to perform in synch with the client 14:27:13 <Belugas> a bit disturbing 14:27:35 <Belugas> looks like the up tick eats up some milliseconds or so 14:29:50 *** Dred_furst [~Dred@resnet646.bournemouth.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 14:32:03 *** z-MaTRiX [~matrix@nude.lesbianbath.com] has joined #openttd 14:32:06 <z-MaTRiX> hi 14:32:24 *** Klanticus [~quassel@monowall.cisc.usp.br] has joined #openttd 14:42:30 *** Klanticus [~quassel@monowall.cisc.usp.br] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:54:55 *** NukeBuster [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has quit [Quit: http://www.interplay.com/] 15:12:04 *** FloSoft [bouncer@tyra.ra-doersch.de] has joined #openttd 15:12:40 *** lewymati [~lewymati@aeiz56.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [] 15:17:00 *** Hirundo_ [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 15:19:33 *** Hirundo [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:19:41 *** Hirundo_ is now known as Hirundo 15:22:11 *** Klanticus [~quassel@143.107.231.49] has joined #openttd 15:32:38 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm71.epsilon180.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:37:33 *** Klanticus [~quassel@143.107.231.49] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:39:40 *** Biolunar [mahdi@blfd-4db07480.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Quit: brb] 15:41:31 *** Klanticus [~quassel@143.107.231.49] has joined #openttd 15:42:22 *** FaTaLiTy [~chatzilla@92.11.9.181] has joined #openttd 15:42:25 <FaTaLiTy> hi :D 15:42:50 <FaTaLiTy> orudge ? 15:43:11 <_ln> not funny! 15:43:24 <FaTaLiTy> anyone here can help me with my server :p? 15:43:30 <FaTaLiTy> I'm trying to put the map on the desert one 15:43:39 <FaTaLiTy> but been failing epicly for about 3 days now 15:43:40 <_ln> anyway, it's usually better to ask the question, instead of just highlight someone. 15:43:57 <FaTaLiTy> wanted to talk to owen anyway :p 15:44:31 <FaTaLiTy> _In do you know how to help me/ 15:44:34 <FaTaLiTy> ?* 15:44:44 <planetmaker> you still didn't ask a question... 15:45:01 <FaTaLiTy> FaTaLiTy> I'm trying to put the map on the desert one 15:45:02 <planetmaker> or rather: the answer to your question must be "no" 15:45:05 <planetmaker> we cannot mind read 15:45:11 <yorick> read minds* 15:45:15 <FaTaLiTy> FaTaLiTy> I'm trying to put the map on the desert one 15:45:17 <FaTaLiTy> ^ ^ 15:45:30 <yorick> load it in singleplayer 15:45:31 <planetmaker> well. That's no problem. That's maybe a sympton 15:45:34 <FaTaLiTy> what word do i need to put instead of temporate 15:45:34 <yorick> and press ctrl-alt-C 15:45:39 <FaTaLiTy> ok 15:46:02 <yorick> it seems like he wants to know how to convert a temperate map into a tropical one 15:46:08 <planetmaker> just create the map you want in single player and then load the map on the server 15:46:20 <planetmaker> I think you don't want to cheat the climate, right? 15:46:25 <FaTaLiTy> nooo 15:46:34 <FaTaLiTy> I just want the desert theme instead of temporate 15:46:42 <yorick> on a new map? 15:46:49 <planetmaker> yeah. Make the map in single player. Check out that it suits your need and load it on the server. 15:46:54 <FaTaLiTy> not trying to do anything clever, just in the openttd.cfg what do i put on the landscape variable 15:47:02 <yorick> 2 15:47:05 <planetmaker> well. look for the climate parameter 15:47:11 <planetmaker> there's a wiki, you know... 15:47:13 <FaTaLiTy> put 2 instead of temparate? 15:47:17 <yorick> no 15:47:18 <yorick> tropical 15:47:20 <planetmaker> could have saved you three day :P 15:47:23 <planetmaker> s 15:47:24 <FaTaLiTy> i looked on the wiki and tried typing in sub-tropical 15:47:33 <FaTaLiTy> yeah i did look planet 15:47:35 <FaTaLiTy> :p 15:47:41 <FaTaLiTy> 3 days of going wtf what i doing wrong 15:47:44 <FaTaLiTy> blond powa 15:48:59 <FaTaLiTy> what would i put for the snow one? 15:49:01 <FaTaLiTy> artic ? 15:49:15 <planetmaker> 0=temperate, 1= arctic, 2=tropic,3=toyland 15:49:28 <yorick> it's quite not on the wiki 15:49:42 <FaTaLiTy> [game_creation] 15:49:43 <planetmaker> yes. Saw that right now, too :P 15:49:43 <FaTaLiTy> town_name = english 15:49:45 <FaTaLiTy> landscape = tropical 15:49:51 <planetmaker> landscape=2 15:49:58 <FaTaLiTy> o ok 15:50:05 <yorick> it's called desert 15:50:34 <planetmaker> I *hope* that =2 will work :P 15:50:43 <yorick> 0 = normal, 1 = hilly, 2 = desert, 3 = candy 15:50:48 <yorick> you need to do desert if 2 doesn't work 15:50:58 <FaTaLiTy> ok 15:51:03 <FaTaLiTy> i'm testing it now :P 15:51:23 <FaTaLiTy> woo yay :D 15:52:00 <yorick> "temperate|arctic|tropic|toyland" <-- are the new values 15:52:20 <FaTaLiTy> ok, thankyou pplz 15:52:42 <FaTaLiTy> annoying thing i find 15:52:59 <FaTaLiTy> its either companys stay forever 15:53:04 <FaTaLiTy> of get auto deleted 15:53:16 <FaTaLiTy> is there like a way to make it so auto delete is after 1 real life week 15:53:54 <planetmaker> not that length AFAIK 15:54:12 <yorick> is there like a way like to like you like saying like less like like like like 15:54:35 *** [com]buster [~eternal@cust-03-55bf402e.adsl.scarlet.nl] has joined #openttd 15:54:50 <yorick> and, like, try like to like make, like your question only like involves like one line, or like that? 15:55:30 *** yorick was kicked from #openttd by DorpsGek [you should like that] 15:55:49 *** yorick [~Yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 15:57:05 <FaTaLiTy> lol thanks dorps 16:03:04 <planetmaker> don't challange DorpsGek, FaTaLiTy 16:03:08 <planetmaker> it has quite a temper :) 16:03:13 <FaTaLiTy> i wasn't :P 16:03:22 <FaTaLiTy> planet u want to come play? 16:03:27 <FaTaLiTy> fatalitys farm 16:03:29 <FaTaLiTy> can't miss it 16:03:47 <oskari89> Hey. There is one question. 16:04:16 <planetmaker> FaTaLiTy: sorry. Busy. 16:04:16 <oskari89> Finnish Trainset at this point, is having catenary feeder substation as non-track tile. 16:04:31 <planetmaker> and I have my own servers :P 16:04:34 <oskari89> Can a SFX be added to buildings too? 16:04:39 <FaTaLiTy> ok 16:04:46 <FaTaLiTy> i thought about making an openttd network 16:04:48 <FaTaLiTy> :P 16:04:51 <oskari89> As stationary, looping sound? 16:04:59 <planetmaker> a new version of 2cc train set needs to be released :) 16:05:31 <yorick> openttd network? 16:06:31 <KingJ> Reminds me of all the TTDLX webrings back in the day :) 16:06:49 *** tomahawk [~tomahawk@acvx15.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 16:10:02 <FaTaLiTy> KINGJ 16:10:04 <FaTaLiTy> :D! 16:10:11 <FaTaLiTy> i know who kingj is, SA:MP ftw 16:10:31 <KingJ> ! 16:10:39 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:10:49 <KingJ> I'm famous! 16:11:11 <Alberth1> quick, change your name! 16:11:35 *** KingJ is now known as KingJ-Hiding 16:12:15 <FaTaLiTy> lol 16:12:40 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.238] has joined #openttd 16:12:43 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas] by ChanServ 16:13:31 *** KingJ-Hiding is now known as KingJ 16:14:17 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: alberth * r16369 /trunk/src/ (widget.cpp widget_type.h): -Codechange: Renaming ComputeMinimalSize() to SetupSmallestSize(), and AssignMinimalPosition() to AssignSizePosition(), they do not compute minimal size anymore. 16:14:17 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: alberth * r16368 /trunk/src/widget_type.h: -Codechange: Only leaf widgets use min_x and min_y. 16:14:19 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: alberth * r16367 /trunk/src/ (widget.cpp widget_type.h): -Codechange: Do not use min_x and min_y for storing smallest size to allow initialization more than once. 16:17:44 *** zodttd [~me@user-142gtg7.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #openttd 16:26:35 *** sigmund [~sigmund@91.80-202-245.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 16:26:50 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: alberth * r16370 /trunk/src/widget.cpp: -Doc: Improvements to the nested widgets documentation, added explanation about computations, fixed typo in param description. 16:27:30 *** Splex [~splex@c-24-245-55-70.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:30:31 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@89.246.161.10] has joined #openttd 16:37:02 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.193.166] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:47:33 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@89.246.161.10] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:48:14 *** Azrael- [~azraeluk@cpc4-papw2-0-0-cust778.cmbg.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 16:48:18 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.161.10] has joined #openttd 16:51:30 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1FA97.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:56:22 *** FaTaLiTy [~chatzilla@92.11.9.181] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.10/2009042316]] 17:09:58 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:14:12 <z-MaTRiX> hi 17:14:12 <z-MaTRiX> in multiplayer 17:14:12 <z-MaTRiX> is there message log? 17:14:15 <z-MaTRiX> can't read when not looking at it... 17:14:17 <z-MaTRiX> also, it goes away fast 17:16:18 <yorick> press `` 17:16:21 <glx> open the console 17:16:33 <glx> (key under escape) 17:17:21 <glx> yorick: not true for everybody 17:17:33 <yorick> ~* 17:17:46 <glx> ? here 17:17:50 <yorick> or the key left to your 1 17:21:03 <z-MaTRiX> ty 17:21:05 <z-MaTRiX> how to scroll? 17:21:38 <z-MaTRiX> ah shift up down 17:22:05 <kkb1101> or shift pgup/down 17:22:23 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 17:25:56 *** Klanticus [~quassel@143.107.231.49] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:38:00 <Chruker> I dont suppose there are any kind of debugger I could use to step through / follow execution in AI scripts? 17:38:36 <glx> use print 17:39:00 <Chruker> already doing that 17:39:36 <Chruker> Just checking if there is some obvious tool which I just have missed. 17:45:35 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: alberth * r16371 /trunk/src/widget.cpp: -Codechange (r16367): Properly align comments. 17:58:45 <planetmaker> he, just noticed now: congratz to the new RC :) 18:00:06 *** mode/#openttd [+o glx] by DorpsGek 18:00:25 *** glx changed the topic of #openttd to: 0.7.0, 0.7.1-RC2 | Website: *.openttd.org (BaNaNaS: bananas, Translator: translator2, Gameservers: servers, Nightly-builds: nightly, WIKI: wiki, Dev-docs: docs, Patches & Bug-reports: bugs, Revision log: vcs, Release info: finger) | #openttd.notice for SVN notices | UTF-8 please | No Unauthorised Bots | English only :D 18:00:31 *** mode/#openttd [-o glx] by DorpsGek 18:05:17 *** ctibor_ [~ctibor@77.48.228.43] has joined #openttd 18:06:34 *** goodger [~ben@host86-156-60-33.range86-156.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: +++ Out Of Cheese Error +++] 18:10:42 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-209-50.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 18:12:30 *** Hirundo_ [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 18:12:41 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: alberth * r16372 /trunk/src/ (widget.cpp widget_type.h): -Codechange: Simplify size calculations with a few helper functions. 18:12:42 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-86-24-144-96.winn.adsl.virgin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:16:09 *** Hirundo [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:16:11 *** Hirundo_ is now known as Hirundo 18:49:23 *** Zahl_ [~Zahl@f051048100.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 18:56:37 *** Zahl [~Zahl@f051048100.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:56:37 *** Zahl_ is now known as Zahl 19:13:12 *** Polygon [~Poly@n15-60.dsl.vianetworks.de] has joined #openttd 19:18:37 *** Polygon [~Poly@n15-60.dsl.vianetworks.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:40:37 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.18.75.64] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:57:31 <Belugas> disturbing... counting bits starting at one instead of usual zero... 19:57:39 <Belugas> takes a while to get accustomed 20:01:13 <frosch123> fortran programmers :p 20:02:44 <SmatZ> even basic had "option base 0/1" ;) 20:03:06 <SmatZ> ah... bit numbers, not arrays :-x 20:03:19 <frosch123> err, isn't there like a dozen of different things that call themself "basic" ? 20:03:22 <SmatZ> I thought pascal starts arrays at 1 too :) 20:03:52 <SmatZ> frosch123: quick basic, visual basic... I am not that oldschool :) 20:03:53 <frosch123> no, in pascal you specify the start, you can also let them run from 123 to 1492 20:03:58 <SmatZ> ah 20:04:11 <frosch123> don't know, I only used gwbasic 20:04:21 <Alberth1> with Pascal, you could specify the lower bound, I quickly started using 0 there :) 20:04:47 <SmatZ> :) 20:04:49 <SmatZ> hello Alberth1 20:04:51 <Alberth1> Matlab starts at 1 though 20:04:53 <frosch123> interestingly you can also specify some type/enum for the index, in which case it uses min/max of that type 20:05:10 <SmatZ> maybe non-programmers find it better to start arrays at 1 20:05:21 <Alberth1> Hai SmatZ, am just about to quit for today. 20:05:38 <SmatZ> good bye then :) 20:05:43 <Alberth1> Mathematicans start at (x1, x2, ...) 20:05:49 <SmatZ> hehe 20:06:31 <frosch123> Gnu R also uses positive indexes, but that is because negative indexes have a special meaning (all elements but the specified ones) 20:06:32 <Alberth1> both ways probably work, it is just that switching between them is deadly. 20:06:51 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAEb1b0.bae.pppool.de] has joined #openttd 20:07:18 <SmatZ> frosch123: Gnu R is that one-purpose "operating system", right? 20:07:31 <Belugas> these are the guys who programmed the simulator i'm using 20:07:42 <Belugas> let say it is not the best tool ever made... 20:07:46 <SmatZ> :) 20:08:06 *** Alberth1 [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 20:09:15 <frosch123> SmatZ: Gnu R is a lanuage for statistics. It is also the best tool for 2D plots, that I know. 20:09:42 <frosch123> but you can also do other mathematical stuff with it 20:10:26 <SmatZ> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=43659 I feel blind again :( 20:11:01 <SmatZ> frosch123: gnuplot suits my needs :) 20:12:30 <frosch123> maybe he should have enabled invisible houses 20:13:08 <SmatZ> frosch123: nice topics for RC1 and RC2 :) 20:13:31 <frosch123> thanks, seems like I should start thinking about the final :) 20:14:45 <SmatZ> ;) 20:15:20 <planetmaker> yes. Let me join the praise for the RC2 announcement :) 20:15:38 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAEb1b0.bae.pppool.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:16:53 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:18:57 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 20:22:16 <frosch123> he, mb plays ottd because of big maps :p 20:24:35 *** Polygon [~Poly@n15-60.dsl.vianetworks.de] has joined #openttd 20:25:41 <planetmaker> woot?! 20:25:50 <planetmaker> now, that's peculiar! 20:26:11 <planetmaker> but as always: the better is the enemy of the good ;) 20:26:41 <frosch123> yeah, the ottd part is unimportant compared to the "big maps" part :o 20:27:33 <Belugas> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGGGGH!~!!!!!! 20:29:42 <yorick> big maps are far more "realistic" than small ones :) 20:31:16 <planetmaker> what? tt-ms, frosch? 20:31:28 <frosch123> yup, in off-topic 20:31:40 <Belugas> all the test cases i've done so far have to be re-performed. Simply because i was using the wrong format of the slip! 20:31:51 <Belugas> 87 + 36 20:31:52 <Belugas> shit 20:31:56 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F5E944.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 20:32:12 <frosch123> 123? excellent! 20:33:15 <planetmaker> hm... I don't find that frosch123 . Got a link? 20:33:34 <planetmaker> wait? in tt-forums.net? Not the German one? 20:33:51 <frosch123> http://www.tt-ms.de/forum/showthread.php?tid=4085&pid=53917#pid53917 20:34:15 <planetmaker> ty :) 20:37:57 *** tomahawk [~tomahawk@acvx15.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:40:04 <frosch123> night 20:40:08 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590feabc.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:41:46 *** Splex [~splex@c-24-245-55-70.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 21:01:52 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.3.25.103] has joined #openttd 21:02:10 *** Alek [~Alek@80.51.96.12] has joined #openttd 21:04:34 <Alek> hello 21:04:44 *** [com]buster [~eternal@cust-03-55bf402e.adsl.scarlet.nl] has quit [Quit: Operator, give me an exit] 21:04:44 <Alek> anybody got some patience ? 21:05:13 <Eddi|zuHause> i used to have, but the internet took it away 21:06:16 <Alek> I just have some newbie questions that would like to be pointed to some good reading 21:06:58 <Alek> I tried beeing smart and browse/search the forum, but it's quite overwhelming 21:07:36 *** Azrael- [~azraeluk@cpc4-papw2-0-0-cust778.cmbg.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:14:15 <Eddi|zuHause> that is certainly fun and all, but maybe you should start by asking the actual question. 21:18:51 <Alek> well 21:19:32 <Belugas> [17:07] <Alek> anybody got some patience ? <-- he did. and of course, answer is not even on mwiki 21:20:32 <Alek> I wanted to try playing with the cargodIst patch but messing with all this SVN stuff seem scary, and I got some "compied binary" with does not start (i get "no availble language packs" error) 21:21:34 <Alek> I guess I was hoping to get the patch running without the whole svn/compiling stuff 21:21:44 <Alek> Any useful hints ? 21:21:59 <Eddi|zuHause> a) make sure you took the latest binary, b) make sure that package also contains the .lng files 21:22:36 <Alek> package does contain lng files, the binary has number 16284 21:23:07 <Alek> got it from the cargodist thread 21:23:14 *** yorick [~Yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Quit: Poef!] 21:23:15 <Eddi|zuHause> then make sure the lng files are unpacked to the correct place (lang directory) 21:24:34 <Alek> they are there 21:24:48 <Alek> any points for running vista ? ;) 21:26:08 <Eddi|zuHause> "they are there" is not an answer. "they really are the ones from the cargodist package, not the ones that came with openttd" would be 21:27:15 <Alek> well, I've deleted everything except the grf's and unpacked the cargodist package, and made sure that the .lng's are in the correct directory 21:28:03 <Alek> strangely the package does contain the .patch file, not sure if it's meaningfull 21:28:32 <Eddi|zuHause> usually not ;) 21:29:28 <Alek> so where should I look ? I've tried swaping the .lng's with newer ones (16371), same result 21:29:35 <Belugas> you have no other installation of ottd anywhere else n your system? no left overs? 21:29:59 <Eddi|zuHause> maybe try an older package, it's possible that the poster made a mistake 21:30:02 <Belugas> like stuff on a dir in my docments or else 21:30:09 <Belugas> that too 21:30:27 <Hirundo> FYI - The package works for me 21:31:35 <Alek> I'm looking for some older lng's 21:31:58 <Alek> Hirundo > on Win32 ? any compatibility opitions ? 21:32:06 <Eddi|zuHause> not just the lngs. always replace the whole package 21:32:29 <Eddi|zuHause> the .exe must run with the .lngs from the exact same package 21:32:43 <Eddi|zuHause> you cannot mix .lngs from different packages 21:32:53 <Hirundo> Just extract the package into some folder and run it 21:33:51 <Hirundo> extracting it 'on top' of anything is just asking for problems, especially with vista's idea of security 21:34:16 <Alek> ok, will do 21:36:27 *** FR^2 [~frquadrat@frquadrat.de] has joined #openttd 21:36:45 <Alek> okay, the app is running, just checking if it's the right thign 21:36:48 <Alek> thing 21:37:56 *** Klanticus [~quassel@monowall.cisc.usp.br] has joined #openttd 21:38:07 <Alek> okay, it's seems to be running well 21:39:29 <Alek> for future reference : It's working well when extracted to a clear directory and given the grf's, It was not working when extracted to an old directory with just the "data" dir left 21:39:41 <Alek> thanks guys 21:40:26 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1FA97.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:44:59 *** Frostregen [~sucks@dslb-084-058-187-113.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 21:46:35 <glx> just put the grfs in Documents/OpenTTD 21:47:12 <glx> Documents\OpenTTD\data to be exact :) 21:47:39 <glx> that way you can have many openttd versions side by side 21:50:32 *** Klanticus [~quassel@monowall.cisc.usp.br] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:53:26 *** `Fuco` [~dota.keys@fuco.sks1.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 21:54:34 *** `Fuco` [~dota.keys@fuco.sks1.muni.cz] has quit [] 21:55:01 *** `Fuco` [~dota.keys@fuco.sks1.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 21:55:38 *** Klanticus [~quassel@143.107.231.49] has joined #openttd 21:56:59 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@147.251.215.97] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:58:15 *** FR^2 [~frquadrat@frquadrat.de] has quit [Quit: Der Worte sind genug gewechselt, lasst mich auch endlich Taten sehn!] 22:01:01 <Cybertinus> damn 22:01:11 <Cybertinus> Ubuntu only had oTTD 0.6.2 :/ 22:01:15 <Cybertinus> has* 22:01:45 *** Hirundo [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.10/2009042316]] 22:02:58 *** racetrack [~racetrack@c114-76-16-69.eburwd4.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: no. just, no.] 22:03:10 <Prof_Frink> Jaunty (stable) has 0.6.3, Karmic 0.7.0. 22:04:12 <Cybertinus> ok 22:04:17 <Sacro> ferocious frink! 22:04:18 <Cybertinus> I'm still using Intrepid 22:04:42 <Belugas> i gues i can go home now... all bruised and bathered (or something alike) 22:04:43 <Belugas> NIGHT! 22:04:59 <Cybertinus> thnx Prof_Frink 22:05:07 <Eddi|zuHause> they don't have a holiday over at your place, Belugas? 22:05:14 <Belugas> nope 22:05:15 <Belugas> too bad 22:05:20 <Belugas> NIGHT! FOR REAL! 22:06:08 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm starting to think that germany is the place that has the most holidays in the world :p 22:06:33 <Cybertinus> lol 22:06:41 <Cybertinus> it is holiday here (The Netherlands) too 22:06:46 <Prof_Frink> Eddi|zuHause: No, that'd be France. 22:07:33 <Cybertinus> I'm off to bed 22:07:34 <Cybertinus> bye 22:07:55 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:08:07 *** Alek [~Alek@80.51.96.12] has left #openttd [] 22:11:11 <Eddi|zuHause> what holidays does france have which germany hasn't (except 14 july)? 22:11:52 <Eddi|zuHause> note that within germany, there are a few holidays that are not "federal" holidays, i.e. they are only holiday in part of the country 22:17:51 *** Exl [~myself@cp1224652-a.roemd1.lb.home.nl] has quit [Quit: Bitches.] 22:29:52 <glx> quick list of fixed holiday 01/01 01/05 08/05 15/08 01/11 11/11 25/12 22:30:28 <glx> then we have the moving days like today 22:32:46 <eekee> um, when did shift start speeding the game up? It makes checking the cost of operations problemactical 22:33:00 <glx> eekee: debug build 22:33:00 <Eddi|zuHause> eekee: since you made a debug build 22:33:07 <eekee> oh damn :D 22:34:41 *** Frostregen [~sucks@dslb-084-058-187-113.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: und weg] 22:34:45 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAEb1b0.bae.pppool.de] has joined #openttd 22:35:55 <Eddi|zuHause> http://www.feiertage.net/uebersicht.php <- list of holidays (the ones marked with "G" are free by law) 22:36:59 <eekee> I think we have abotu as many bank holidays as # of G-days there 22:37:04 <eekee> *about 22:37:09 <eekee> in England 22:38:39 <Eddi|zuHause> not all of those are federal holidays, though 22:38:56 <glx> Eddi|zuHause: so you have more :) (alsacian have some of them too) 22:39:05 *** goodger [~ben@host86-156-60-33.range86-156.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 22:39:12 <glx> histerical raisin 22:39:39 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1FA97.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:39:47 <Eddi|zuHause> http://www.feiertage.net/bundeslaender.php <- which holidays apply in which part of germany 22:43:39 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: smatz * r16373 /trunk/src/ (8 files in 2 dirs): -Codechange: use () instead of (void) for functions without parameters 22:44:14 <Eddi|zuHause> some of these holidays are exclusive to majorly catholic areas, while others are exclusive to majorly protestantic areas 22:44:32 *** oskari89 [~oskari89@dsl-kpobrasgw1-ff7cc100-243.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [] 22:46:56 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAEb1b0.bae.pppool.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:47:03 *** Polygon [~Poly@n15-60.dsl.vianetworks.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:47:43 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-209-50.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:52:17 *** Zahl [~Zahl@f051048100.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: *schiel*] 22:56:13 *** ctibor_ [~ctibor@77.48.228.43] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:57:08 *** reldred [~reldred@wirele5.lnk.telstra.net] has joined #openttd 23:01:03 *** Rexxars [~rexxars@62.73.249.23] has quit [Quit: edgepro: Why are you staring at my shoes? 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