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00:03:28 *** pugi [~pugi@p4FCC56D3.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: I reject your reality and substitute my own] 00:05:59 *** Keiya_ [~Keiya@pool-96-230-229-184.mdsnwi.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 00:17:38 <avdg> hmm, yet another floating point exception? 00:17:48 <avdg> @fs4182 00:18:44 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 00:20:49 <Eddi|zuHause> one should just close the report because the game was touched with a modified version 00:21:26 <avdg> I did also had that bug, and also with a modified version (wich seemed to be non-cpp files) 00:21:37 *** Keiya [~Keiya@pool-96-230-229-184.mdsnwi.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 00:22:29 <avdg> Still, I don't know if it triggered the same error 00:22:51 <Eddi|zuHause> the problem is, the game logic contains (almost) no floating point operations 00:23:06 <avdg> I know, because pointers are "bad" 00:23:24 <Eddi|zuHause> "point", not "pointer" 00:23:35 <avdg> uh, what did I say -_ 00:23:41 <avdg> floating points 00:24:20 <avdg> bleh, I'm multitasking with other programming problems :p 00:24:48 <Eddi|zuHause> floats are not "bad" per se, but their behaviour cannot be synchronized between different processor architectures 00:25:49 <Eddi|zuHause> that, or it can't use the proccessor's floating point acceleration, which makes using floats practically useless 00:26:17 <avdg> compiler optimalisation I bet 00:26:30 <Eddi|zuHause> no, it's inherent to the processor 00:26:38 <Eddi|zuHause> has nothing to do with the compiler 00:27:58 *** Keiya_ [~Keiya@pool-96-230-229-184.mdsnwi.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:28:20 *** Keiya_ [~Keiya@pool-96-230-229-184.mdsnwi.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 00:28:25 <Eddi|zuHause> example: if you use 64 bit floats ("double precision"), one processor can directly use 64 bit functions, or the other may promote them to 80 bit floats, use those functions, and then cut the results back to 64 bit 00:28:44 <Eddi|zuHause> both methods are valid, but they may produce slightly different rounding behaviour 00:28:52 <avdg> sound logic 00:29:08 <Eddi|zuHause> so it cannot be trusted for synchronisation 00:29:10 <avdg> but I am not experienced with modern cpu's 00:29:44 <Eddi|zuHause> x86 processors typically use the "promote to 80 bits" method 00:30:32 <Eddi|zuHause> but it's not the only source for differences 00:30:58 <avdg> hmm, do you know if floating point registers have equal performance if they only do integer instructions? 00:31:06 <avdg> random question 00:31:52 <SmatZ> SIGFPE is raised for division by zero 00:31:56 <SmatZ> and maybe other cases... 00:32:02 <Eddi|zuHause> i am not an assembler programmer, i'd have suspected they can't be used for integer at all 00:32:03 <SmatZ> (integer division by zero, that is) 00:32:14 <SmatZ> as well as modulo... 00:32:16 <avdg> just a part I think 00:32:23 <SmatZ> which could indicate a problem in GUI 00:32:28 <avdg> as I know a bit how a float is constructed 00:32:30 <SmatZ> because there is / and % used quite often 00:32:57 *** Keiya [~Keiya@pool-96-230-229-184.mdsnwi.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:33:13 <Eddi|zuHause> well, it'd certainly help to have the debugging symbols to resolve the location 00:33:38 <SmatZ> [05] ./openttd(_Z17HandleMouseEventsv+0xf91) [0x83eb291] 00:33:40 <SmatZ> we got this :) 00:33:50 <SmatZ> and it seems to be the official binary 00:33:55 <SmatZ> better than nothing :p 00:34:05 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@fuco.sks3.muni.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:34:10 <avdg> hmm, maybe I should dig in my errorfile as wel 00:34:13 <avdg> l 00:35:20 <avdg> bleh, I think I lost it -_ 00:35:30 <SmatZ> no problem :) 00:35:50 <avdg> pm just pointed my that it was invalid 00:35:53 *** Keiya [~Keiya@pool-96-230-229-184.mdsnwi.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 00:36:46 <SmatZ> 83eb291: f7 3d f8 98 56 08 idivl 0x85698f8 00:36:51 <SmatZ> integer division 00:37:03 <avdg> :) 00:37:23 <avdg> bleh, I really should learn more assembler 00:37:36 <avdg> and crashlog reading 00:40:03 <Eddi|zuHause> i really don't care about assembler... 00:40:19 <avdg> I do :p 00:40:21 <Eddi|zuHause> the higher level the language, the better 00:40:48 * avdg loves lowlevel 00:41:08 <avdg> but getting further works indeed only by going higher 00:42:57 *** Keiya_ [~Keiya@pool-96-230-229-184.mdsnwi.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:44:03 *** Biolunar [~mahdi@blfd-4db18855.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:47:35 <SmatZ> :) 00:48:04 <SmatZ> there is indeed something strange with the scrolling code 00:48:14 <avdg> scrolling code? 00:48:21 <SmatZ> when I hold lmb on the "scroll up" button, it sometimes causes the bar to jump 00:48:22 <avdg> is it reproducable yet? 00:48:32 <SmatZ> I am not able to crash openttd though 00:48:58 <SmatZ> in crash.png, there is mouse pressing the "scroll up" button 00:49:03 <avdg> hmm 00:49:18 <avdg> the code is a bit changed in the last time 00:53:02 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1CB89.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Progman] 00:53:58 *** ctibor|spi [~quassel@77.48.228.43] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:10:48 <SmatZ> reproduced :) 01:11:50 *** Pulec [~pulec@static-cl093181068250.unet.cz] has quit [] 01:14:22 <avdg> now fix it :D 01:15:01 <avdg> isn't it related to the fact that _scrollbar_size could be zero? 01:15:15 * avdg didn't checked out the code yet 01:16:10 <SmatZ> it's most likely related to that, yes :) 01:23:17 *** Mazur [~mazur@83.85.26.153] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:23:31 <avdg> what I'm also wondering at, is the small scroller, in ui from many os there is a minimum size 01:23:45 <avdg> but just ignore me if I'm asking too much :p 01:32:47 <avdg> widget.cpp, at rule 111 01:33:01 <avdg> thats the only place where you can get a zero 01:36:00 <Eddi|zuHause> weren't a couple of things regarding scrolling and zeroes be fixed recently? 01:37:23 <SmatZ> I don't know 01:37:59 <avdg> I do only know that there where some issues about the ui fixed 01:38:09 <avdg> like the flickering button 01:39:49 <SmatZ> the "mouse button is pressed at the [^] button" even seems to be sometimes delivered as "mouse clicked at some place in the scrollbar, move the scrollbar to that place" 01:40:23 <SmatZ> in that case ScrollbarClickPositioning() would be called 01:40:32 <SmatZ> and could set _scrollbar_size to 0 01:41:55 <avdg> what I don't get, is why _scrollbar_size is a global 01:42:19 <SmatZ> it's related to currently active scrollbar 01:42:23 <SmatZ> but strange, yes 01:44:25 <Eddi|zuHause> probably a remnant from old gui code 01:45:01 <avdg> the code isn't cleaned up imo, and it will never be till someone wants to 01:45:28 <SmatZ> it's a (not THAT slow) proces 01:45:30 <SmatZ> s 01:45:47 <avdg> its just because no1 is looking at it 01:45:55 <avdg> I think 01:46:28 <SmatZ> there's a whole new GUI system in 1.0 :p 01:46:41 <SmatZ> and there are still changes being commited 01:46:44 <Eddi|zuHause> there have been _massive_ changes in GUI code in the past year 01:47:30 <avdg> and still needs changes 01:48:28 *** Wizzleby [~wizzleby@pool-108-16-114-12.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 01:48:37 <avdg> but anyway, its 4 am 01:48:44 <avdg> almost :p 01:50:21 <avdg> gn 01:50:42 *** avdg [~avdg@94-227-100-192.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:59:28 *** r0b0tb0y [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 02:12:00 *** lugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8d6db.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:16:50 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has quit [Quit: Sleep.] 02:30:26 *** nicfer [~nicfer@190.50.26.30] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:03:05 *** r0b0tb0y [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:37:42 *** r0b0tb0y [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 03:38:54 *** glx 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05:36:56 *** frustrated_farmer [~frustrate@pool-74-107-154-240.ptldor.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Bye for now!] 05:38:19 *** r0b0tb0y [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 05:39:07 *** Keiya_ [~Keiya@pool-96-230-229-184.mdsnwi.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 05:39:19 *** Phoenix_the_II [ralph@home.deboom.biz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:45:20 <Terkhen> good morning 05:46:31 *** Keiya [~Keiya@pool-96-230-229-184.mdsnwi.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:54:09 *** Mortomes [~mortomes@i15108.upc-i.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:55:45 <planetmaker> good morning 06:09:03 *** xiong [~xiong@netblock-72-25-106-175.dslextreme.com] has joined #openttd 06:11:00 <xiong> Hi, guys. 06:23:50 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 06:26:50 *** ^Spike^ [~spike@d200003.upc-d.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 06:29:52 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5e0b8955.bb.sky.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:42:44 *** TinoDid|znc [~TinoDidri@alpha.visl.sdu.dk] has joined #openttd 06:44:25 *** Keiya [~Keiya@pool-96-230-229-184.mdsnwi.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 06:45:14 *** TinoDidriksen [~TinoDidri@alpha.visl.sdu.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:45:14 *** TinoDid|znc is now known as TinoDidriksen 06:48:52 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: planetmaker * r21036 /trunk/src/video/cocoa/event.mm: -Fix: [OSX] Properly set the palette when using the 8bpp blitter during start-up 06:52:06 *** Keiya_ [~Keiya@pool-96-230-229-184.mdsnwi.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:00:25 *** duckblaster [~duckblast@202-65-53-153.xdsl.net.oyster.net.ck] has joined #openttd 07:01:00 *** duckblaster [~duckblast@202-65-53-153.xdsl.net.oyster.net.ck] has quit [] 07:03:02 *** CIA-2 [~CIA@208.69.182.149] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:04:20 *** dfox [~dfox@ip-89-176-209-74.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 07:06:03 *** xiong [~xiong@netblock-72-25-106-175.dslextreme.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:07:43 *** Mortomes|TGIF [~MortomesW@mail.qps.nl] has joined #openttd 07:09:04 *** Mortomes|TGIF is now known as Mortomes|Work 07:10:27 *** ar3k [~ident@87-239-75-101.internetia.net.pl] has joined #openttd 07:15:36 *** Chrill [Chrill@ip68-8-120-178.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #openttd 07:28:57 *** Chrill [Chrill@ip68-8-120-178.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [] 07:29:15 *** JVassie [~James@92.27.149.231] has joined #openttd 07:33:05 <dihedral> planetmaker, the os x maintainer ? :-D 07:34:58 <Rubidium> does he dare? 07:42:31 <planetmaker> that is the question 07:42:47 <planetmaker> at least not yet 07:42:58 *** pugi [~pugi@p4FCC56D3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 07:46:11 <planetmaker> and CIA-2 is laggy ;-) 07:47:51 *** Keiya_ [~Keiya@pool-96-230-229-184.mdsnwi.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 07:50:17 <planetmaker> but I had the feeling that the palette wasn't properly initialized at all... stupid thing and no wonder it comes out strange 07:50:19 *** JVassie [~James@92.27.149.231] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:54:01 *** Keiya [~Keiya@pool-96-230-229-184.mdsnwi.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:02:42 <dihedral> at least now the argument 'no dev has a mac' does not count 08:02:58 <planetmaker> nor was it correct before :-P 08:03:12 <dihedral> oh? who else? 08:03:25 <planetmaker> I don't tell. I fear the wrath ;-) 08:03:30 <dihedral> lol 08:04:47 <planetmaker> truely I shouldn't shed light on that issue :-P 08:05:48 <dihedral> planetmaker, true, it'll only get the forums unbearable again :-D 08:06:06 <planetmaker> :-P 08:07:48 *** planetmaker [~pm@vs185047.vserver.de] has left #openttd [... und tschÃŒÃ!] 08:08:21 *** planetmaker [~pm@vs185047.vserver.de] has joined #openttd 08:08:27 <planetmaker> hmpf... nasty ctrl+w issue 08:08:42 <planetmaker> @voice 08:08:45 *** mode/#openttd [+v planetmaker] by DorpsGek 08:09:55 <dihedral> hehe 08:10:17 <dihedral> Osai swears on this colloqui client :-P 08:10:58 <planetmaker> that wouldn't change this "issue" 08:10:59 <Osai> Yes!!! 08:11:07 <dihedral> hello Osai :-) 08:11:11 <planetmaker> It's layer8, you know. Ctrl+W just on the wrong window :-) 08:11:12 <Osai> hi 08:11:20 <planetmaker> An Osai !! 08:11:28 <dihedral> planetmaker, i thought ctrl+w did not work on macs 08:11:32 <dihedral> it thought it was command+w 08:11:38 <dihedral> ^^ 08:11:43 <planetmaker> I'm not working on a mac right now 08:11:49 <dihedral> ahhhh 08:11:52 <dihedral> traitor :-D 08:12:02 <planetmaker> but on mac it'd be cmd+w. Same problem, other key 08:12:22 <planetmaker> which reminds me... cmd should double for ctrl :-) 08:12:40 <Osai> how are you guys?? 08:12:48 <planetmaker> fine and busy :-) 08:13:00 <planetmaker> how're you, long time no see :-) 08:13:19 <Osai> good too, but very busy 08:13:48 <dihedral> studies ey? 08:13:52 <dihedral> doing well(ish) too 08:14:03 <dihedral> working from home today so i do not infect all my coworkers :-S 08:14:24 <dihedral> though that kinda already states i will not be as productive either ^^ 08:15:16 <planetmaker> he... seems to go around. Been there the weekend 08:15:25 <Osai> Yes 08:15:25 <planetmaker> And thus missed a nice "Spanferkel" :-( 08:15:31 <dihedral> hehe 08:15:45 <dihedral> i woke up with it sunday morning 08:15:55 <dihedral> i have no idea where i could have gotten it from 08:17:01 *** r0b0tb0y [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:17:36 <Osai> gosh, too many disconnects... cya later 08:17:43 <planetmaker> he :S 08:18:21 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B00D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 08:19:30 *** mr_sticky [789adb82@ircip3.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 08:19:50 <dihedral> planetmaker, he joins from his phone 08:20:05 <dihedral> he has a plugin in znc which pushes highlights to his phone :-D 08:20:06 <planetmaker> I suspect so. Still 08:20:17 <dihedral> so if that disconnects all the time ... 08:20:41 *** CIA-2 [~CIA@208.69.182.149] has joined #openttd 08:20:52 * dihedral kicks CIA-2 08:20:53 <CIA-2> ow 08:21:17 <planetmaker> hm. seems to be an automated bot response :-) 08:21:32 * Terkhen hughs CIA-2 08:21:41 <dihedral> :-P 08:21:54 * dihedral hugs Terkhen 08:21:58 * planetmaker steals an 'h' from Terkhen 08:22:07 <Terkhen> whatever :P 08:22:13 <dihedral> Terken <- you mean that/ :-D 08:22:37 <planetmaker> not out of Terkhen ;-) 08:22:44 <dihedral> ^^ 08:22:49 <Terkhen> the fact that I'm studying english right now makes that mistake even worse 08:22:57 <planetmaker> :-P 08:23:32 <dihedral> Terkhen, you could have easily enough found out if 'hughs' was something we did not know about - or make up a story :-D 08:23:36 *** mr_sticky [789adb82@ircip3.mibbit.com] has quit [] 08:24:50 <planetmaker> that's quite difficult when you never know from where there are people around ;-) 08:29:41 <peter1138> version me will you? 08:31:32 *** andythenorth__ [~andy@cpc9-aztw25-2-0-cust133.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 08:35:14 <dihedral> :-D 08:35:34 <dihedral> i just thought that way i could find out who might possibly have a mac :-P 08:35:41 <dihedral> of course only if you reply ^^ 08:35:45 *** ctibor [~quassel@77.48.228.43] has joined #openttd 08:35:47 <peter1138> nobody, duh 08:36:04 <dihedral> lies! ^^ 08:36:35 * planetmaker fears the bjarni-effect :-P 08:36:47 <Terkhen> :) 08:38:58 <dihedral> planetmaker, you mean, disappear and never show up again? 08:39:06 <dihedral> or try to fix something and not succeed :-D 08:39:27 <planetmaker> the latter with the social stigma attached to it ;-) 08:39:42 <planetmaker> The first is quite well under my control ;-) 08:39:50 <dihedral> ^^ 08:39:52 <planetmaker> But might be connected to the second issue ;-) 08:41:16 * andythenorth__ knows who else has a mac 08:42:35 <planetmaker> 8% of the computer user on some large German computer magazine's page seem to have. 08:46:34 <dihedral> planetmaker, but i do not count 16 devs :-D 08:46:43 <planetmaker> ;-) 08:47:04 <planetmaker> @calc 100/8 08:47:04 <DorpsGek> planetmaker: 12.5 08:47:13 <planetmaker> :-P 08:47:35 <dihedral> planetmaker, i was specifically refering to devs;-) 08:47:45 <dihedral> but perhaps we should just drop this topic ;-) 08:48:19 <planetmaker> ^^ 08:48:54 *** Keiya [~Keiya@pool-96-230-229-184.mdsnwi.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 08:51:36 *** X-2 [~X-2@5ED67292.cm-7-7b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 08:56:31 *** Keiya_ [~Keiya@pool-96-230-229-184.mdsnwi.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:02:06 *** DDR [~DDR@66.183.113.224] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:20:50 <Rubidium> pff... using some large German computer magazine for stats... 09:21:26 <Rubidium> @calc 27/3362*100 09:21:26 <DorpsGek> Rubidium: 0.803093396788 09:21:45 <Rubidium> there, less than 1% of people use a mac (binary) 09:22:00 <planetmaker> :-P 09:22:14 <dihedral> add those who compile themselves ^^ 09:22:29 <planetmaker> 15 people more? 09:22:31 <Rubidium> are "developers" 09:22:49 *** norbert79 [~Norbi@deibp9eh1--blueice3n2.emea.ibm.com] has joined #openttd 09:23:47 *** perk11 [~perk11@81.17.157.195] has joined #openttd 09:29:25 * peter1138 smirks at xkcd 09:36:38 *** heffer [~felix@hyperion.fetzig.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:38:16 * norbert79 checks xkcd 09:38:43 * norbert79 agrees :) 09:41:07 <planetmaker> scary future, eh? ;-) 09:41:20 <planetmaker> spam bots passing the turing test... 09:52:43 *** JVassie [~James@92.27.149.231] has joined #openttd 09:56:05 <Hirundo> Who knows, how many here are actually spam bots.... 09:56:55 <peter1138> I always suspect dihedral... 09:57:27 *** Keiya_ [~Keiya@pool-96-230-229-184.mdsnwi.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 09:57:40 <planetmaker> just don't mention the war :-P 09:59:28 <dihedral> pffft 10:00:30 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@fuco.sks3.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 10:02:43 <peter1138> Never mention the Swiss Sonderbund war of 1847. 10:04:55 *** Keiya [~Keiya@pool-96-230-229-184.mdsnwi.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:05:53 *** theholyduck [~holyduck@82.147.59.59] has joined #openttd 10:06:31 *** dfox [~dfox@ip-89-176-209-74.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:06:50 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B74610.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 10:10:40 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77670.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:19:13 <peter1138> Ahhh, gstreamer has the best... aasink :D 10:20:58 *** Adambean [AdamR@82.hosts.reece-eu.net] has joined #openttd 10:22:52 *** Eddi|zuHause2 is now known as Eddi|zuHause 10:24:46 *** theholyduck [~holyduck@82.147.59.59] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:37:34 *** Keiya [~Keiya@pool-96-230-229-184.mdsnwi.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 10:43:50 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.22.66.123] has joined #openttd 10:44:50 *** Keiya_ [~Keiya@pool-96-230-229-184.mdsnwi.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:03:04 *** Pulec [~pulec@static-cl093181068250.unet.cz] has joined #openttd 11:53:54 *** Chruker [~no@port113.ds1-vj.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 11:55:22 *** Keiya_ [~Keiya@pool-96-230-229-184.mdsnwi.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 11:56:29 *** Lurimax [~quassel@68.59.202.84.customer.cdi.no] has joined #openttd 11:58:34 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has joined #openttd 11:59:58 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF88DF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 12:02:45 *** Keiya [~Keiya@pool-96-230-229-184.mdsnwi.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:17:31 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:8449:6bca:2eb:37a0] has joined #openttd 12:17:34 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 12:19:51 *** Devroush [~dennis@ip-213-49-110-240.dsl.scarlet.be] has joined #openttd 12:32:11 *** perk11 [~perk11@81.17.157.195] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 12:34:41 *** r0b0tb0y [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 12:42:17 *** Keiya [~Keiya@pool-96-230-229-184.mdsnwi.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 12:49:40 *** Keiya_ [~Keiya@pool-96-230-229-184.mdsnwi.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:54:09 *** avdg [~avdg@94-227-100-192.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 12:57:15 *** xiong [~xiong@netblock-72-25-106-182.dslextreme.com] has joined #openttd 12:59:36 *** lugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8dfcf.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 13:08:33 <Belugas> hello 13:08:44 <planetmaker> hullo Belugas 13:19:45 *** KouDy [~KouDy@ip-89-176-220-140.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 13:30:20 *** r0b0tb0y [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:31:36 <Belugas> mister planetmaker :) i though of you during the weekend, while I was digging in the basement ;) 13:31:52 <dihedral> find a corpse did you? :-D 13:31:58 <dihedral> hello Belugas 13:32:52 <Belugas> well... yes,but neither human or highly developped life forms :) 13:35:30 <planetmaker> :-D 13:35:41 * planetmaker wonders how my name could be connected to basements. 13:36:00 <planetmaker> Should I take care to not run accross you in a dark alley as you already prepared a pit hole? ;-) 13:38:29 *** Keiya_ [~Keiya@pool-96-230-229-184.mdsnwi.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 13:38:36 <dihedral> hehe 13:44:32 *** Adambean [AdamR@82.hosts.reece-eu.net] has quit [Quit: Gone fishing] 13:46:10 *** Keiya [~Keiya@pool-96-230-229-184.mdsnwi.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:54:11 <Belugas> because i was thinking that most probably, you would be the first outsider to enjoy the shower i'm preparing the basement for hehehe 13:54:38 <planetmaker> :-) 13:54:59 <planetmaker> That I'd love to be 13:55:31 *** Lakie` [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has joined #openttd 14:01:19 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:02:16 <dihedral> now i want to see pictures ^^ 14:04:08 *** perk11 [~perk11@81.17.157.195] has joined #openttd 14:05:48 *** norbert79 [~Norbi@deibp9eh1--blueice3n2.emea.ibm.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:06:12 <Belugas> naughty boy, dihedral, naughty boy 14:06:35 <Belugas> or noughty... or else 14:06:37 <Belugas> BAD BOY! 14:06:44 <planetmaker> he :-) 14:06:50 <planetmaker> But he's right: I'm curious, too :-) 14:07:18 <planetmaker> Also I've heard you have a good camera and good lenses... ;-) 14:07:29 <SpComb> special shower 14:08:33 <Belugas> hehehe 14:08:48 <Belugas> ok, i'll try to make a few shots ;) 14:09:06 <Belugas> my camera is not as good as yours, thuogh hehe 14:09:46 <planetmaker> I doubt that ;-) 14:10:01 <planetmaker> Your model is much newer and as such it probably is at least as good 14:12:42 *** davis [~b@p5B28BFDD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:13:11 <planetmaker> I guess especially the sensitivity is much better 14:13:26 <Belugas> only one way to find out :) 14:13:31 <planetmaker> The only thing I'd miss would be the handling which I grew accustomed to 14:21:25 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4dbabe75.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 14:22:07 *** theholyduck [~holyduck@82.147.59.59] has joined #openttd 14:24:19 <Belugas> yeah..the layout is very different 14:24:28 <Belugas> if you play with the controls, that is... 14:24:36 <Belugas> you're all to the left, i'm all to the right 14:24:54 <Belugas> plus, i think it's lighter as well 14:25:02 <Belugas> welll... without lenses :) 14:25:54 *** Lakie` is now known as Lakie 14:27:06 <planetmaker> using manual settings not infrequently, I'm quite accustomed to using a separate dial for exposure time and aperture 14:27:39 <planetmaker> one for the thumb, the other for the index finger 14:27:40 *** heffer [~felix@hyperion.fetzig.org] has joined #openttd 14:29:06 <Belugas> mmh... indeed 14:29:54 <Belugas> i have only one wheel. So in manual, it controls the exposure, while pressing a button plus using the wheel controls the aperture 14:30:03 <Belugas> really not the same engine :) 14:30:25 <planetmaker> probably just the same wire going to A or to B ;-) 14:32:12 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF88DF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:33:52 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4dbabe75.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:39:56 *** xiong [~xiong@netblock-72-25-106-182.dslextreme.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:45:38 *** Keiya [~Keiya@pool-96-230-229-184.mdsnwi.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 14:46:13 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello084115143107.3.graz.surfer.at] has joined #openttd 14:53:07 *** Keiya_ [~Keiya@pool-96-230-229-184.mdsnwi.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:53:25 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B74610.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:53:44 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B74610.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:53:58 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f56cd.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 14:54:55 *** ar3kaw [~ident@87-239-75-101.internetia.net.pl] has joined #openttd 14:57:09 <Belugas> could be, but the hell if i'll open it up to verify :) 14:57:16 *** goblin [~goblin@krlh-5f72e8ef.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 14:57:54 *** ar3k [~ident@87-239-75-101.internetia.net.pl] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 15:00:42 *** ecke [~ecke@188.75.128.2] has joined #openttd 15:04:15 *** Keyboard_Warrior [~holyduck@82.147.59.59] has joined #openttd 15:10:40 *** theholyduck [~holyduck@82.147.59.59] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:22:54 *** zodttd2 [~me@user-0c90n12.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #openttd 15:23:02 *** Mortomes|Work [~MortomesW@mail.qps.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:27:12 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:27:56 <Belugas> gaaaaaa 15:28:06 <Belugas> just figured out what was wrong 15:28:22 <Belugas> i did not started winamp 15:28:46 <frosch123> good point 15:29:08 * frosch123 starty rhythmbox 15:29:14 *** zodttd [~me@user-0c90n12.cable.mindspring.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:30:42 *** ecke [~ecke@188.75.128.2] has quit [Quit: more listen, more understand, more know] 15:32:31 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has joined #openttd 15:37:46 *** Keiya_ [~Keiya@pool-96-230-229-184.mdsnwi.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 15:42:01 *** perk11 [~perk11@81.17.157.195] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 15:42:52 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:44:59 *** Keiya [~Keiya@pool-96-230-229-184.mdsnwi.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:48:16 *** dfox [~dfox@ip-89-176-209-74.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 15:49:48 <Belugas> :) 15:49:56 <Belugas> life without music is... boring 15:50:19 <Eddi|zuHause> indeed... that's why i go making music now. 15:50:20 <avdg> music in brain is cool, but sometimes anoying ;-) 15:52:23 <Belugas> true that. i had that piece in my head for the whole weekend. cannot get it out. could not even record it, even worse :S 15:54:19 *** pugi [~pugi@p4FCC56D3.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:00:45 *** pugi [~pugi@p4FCC56D3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:08:36 *** theholyduck [~holyduck@82.147.59.59] has joined #openttd 16:15:09 *** Keyboard_Warrior [~holyduck@82.147.59.59] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:16:41 *** theholyduck [~holyduck@82.147.59.59] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:18:45 *** theholyduck [~holyduck@82.147.59.59] has joined #openttd 16:28:14 *** KouDy [~KouDy@ip-89-176-220-140.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:33:37 *** Zuu [~Zuu@2.65.206.179] has joined #openttd 16:36:02 *** KouDy [~KouDy@ip-89-176-220-140.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 16:36:04 <Belugas> that brianher67 guy is a real mess 16:36:16 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5e0b8955.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 16:36:44 <Belugas> when you though ou have read it all, they come with a guy who can write even worse english 16:39:49 *** Keiya [~Keiya@pool-96-230-229-184.mdsnwi.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 16:40:53 *** Keyboard_Warrior [~holyduck@82.147.59.59] has joined #openttd 16:47:31 *** Keiya_ [~Keiya@pool-96-230-229-184.mdsnwi.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:47:54 *** theholyduck [~holyduck@82.147.59.59] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:48:28 *** TheMask96- [martijn@sirius.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:51:55 <azaghal> Yo 16:54:05 *** TheMask96 [martijn@lust.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 16:58:22 <Belugas> Oy 17:00:04 *** Mazur [~mazur@53551A99.cm-6-6a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 17:09:24 *** norbert79 [~Norbi@178-164-218-131.pool.digikabel.hu] has joined #openttd 17:09:41 *** Kurimus [Kurimus@dsl-tkubrasgw1-fe83de00-38.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 17:14:06 *** Zuu_ [~Zuu@2.70.237.6] has joined #openttd 17:14:07 *** Keyboard_Warrior [~holyduck@82.147.59.59] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:15:10 *** Zuu [~Zuu@2.65.206.179] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:15:18 *** Zuu_ is now known as Zuu 17:16:45 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d5152B6A8.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 17:22:04 <TrueBrain> ITS SO FLUFFYYYYYYY 17:23:01 * orudge pats TrueBrain 17:23:50 *** JVassie_ [~James@92.27.149.231] has joined #openttd 17:25:12 *** DDR [~DDR@66.183.113.224] has joined #openttd 17:29:40 *** JVassie [~James@92.27.149.231] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:31:17 <avdg> trains aren't fluffy -_ 17:34:43 *** theholyduck [~holyduck@82.147.59.59] has joined #openttd 17:35:18 <Prof_Frink> A train full of fluff is. 17:36:06 *** tokai [~tokai@port-92-195-115-113.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:38:18 *** tokai [~tokai@port-92-195-54-45.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 17:38:21 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 17:39:29 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 17:42:29 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF88DF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 17:42:30 *** fjb is now known as Guest594 17:42:31 *** fjb [~frank@p5DDFEFDD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:43:15 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: translators * r21038 /trunk/src/lang/ (german.txt korean.txt): 17:43:15 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 17:43:15 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: german - 2 changes by norbert79 17:43:15 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: korean - 4 changes by junho2813 17:47:03 <Belugas> a cloud train 17:47:12 <Belugas> a train in the sky 17:47:17 <Belugas> with diamonds 17:50:07 *** Guest594 [~frank@p5DDFC25A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:50:57 *** azaghal [~azaghal@109.207.46.11] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:56:25 <Zuu> hmm, a Skytrain? :-) 17:56:38 <Zuu> (like in Vancouver) 17:57:28 *** theholyduck [~holyduck@82.147.59.59] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:02:19 * Zuu wants to be entertained 18:02:42 *** Devroush [~dennis@ip-213-49-110-240.dsl.scarlet.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:03:11 *** Devroush [~dennis@ip-83-134-169-149.dsl.scarlet.be] has joined #openttd 18:11:23 <andythenorth__> se 18:11:28 <andythenorth__> sheep are fluffy 18:13:58 * andythenorth__ flogs dead horse 18:14:17 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d5152B6A8.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 18:14:58 *** ecke [~ecke@188.75.128.2] has joined #openttd 18:15:22 *** pugi [~pugi@p4FCC56D3.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:15:59 *** pugi [~pugi@p4FCC5F28.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:29:35 *** GIORDANO [~giordano-@202.70.51.173] has joined #openttd 18:30:10 <andythenorth__> 5 coal wagons *is* the perfect load for a tank loco yes / no? 18:30:50 <planetmaker> maybe :-P 18:31:02 <planetmaker> I'd use 9 18:31:20 <planetmaker> but that *might* need two engines 18:31:23 <planetmaker> depends 18:31:24 <andythenorth__> would that reach top speed? 18:31:27 <GIORDANO> can anyone help me ? 18:31:31 * andythenorth__ stops with the in jokes 18:31:35 <andythenorth__> rude 18:31:44 <GIORDANO> What happened? I just start the game. First set up a new TRAIN STATION, and others near INDUSTRY. But why all the stations I'm really empty. See my photo shoot. 18:31:44 <planetmaker> no, we don't know your question and your nick shouts 18:31:44 <GIORDANO> In writing my station EMPTY. WOOD Should it exist at the station entrance. 18:31:44 <GIORDANO> If blank how I transports. Can anyone please explain why this way? how not to empty his WOOD STATION exists. 18:31:44 <GIORDANO> I've never experienced anything like this in Transport Tycoon Deluxe (WINDOWS VERSION). 18:31:44 <GIORDANO> To my knowledge in Transport Tycoon Deluxe (Windows version). Each of the pairs deket STATION industry. It is never empty. There are always content. 18:31:45 <GIORDANO> Why in OPENTTD different?. 18:31:45 <GIORDANO> For the first time I experienced in OPENTTD (32 BIT). Weird. 18:31:46 * planetmaker is rude 18:31:47 <GIORDANO> All that I can place near statisiun AGRICULTURAL INDUSTRY, OIL WELL, and so forth. Always empty. I am so confused with OPENTTD (32 BIT) is why different. 18:31:47 <GIORDANO> Can anyone explain or help me? 18:31:49 <GIORDANO> Thank you. 18:32:19 <GIORDANO> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=50699 18:32:25 <avdg> wow, floating is so not nice 18:32:36 <GIORDANO> please help me 18:32:40 * avdg is confused 18:32:47 <GIORDANO> i'm confuse 18:32:50 <planetmaker> as am I 18:32:58 <planetmaker> what's the issue? 18:32:59 <andythenorth__> GIORDANO: have you sent any trains there yet? 18:33:05 <planetmaker> ^ 18:33:16 <andythenorth__> the station won't start providing cargo until a vehicle has visited it 18:33:33 <planetmaker> with the correct wagons even 18:34:02 <andythenorth__> send a wood train there, should fix the problem 18:34:07 <andythenorth__> try it and let us know :) 18:34:17 <GIORDANO> oh 18:34:19 * andythenorth__ makes up for earlier rudeness 18:34:19 *** azaghal [~azaghal@109.207.46.246] has joined #openttd 18:34:38 <planetmaker> besides, you can change that behaviour. Somewhere in the adv. settings 18:34:50 <planetmaker> Then cargo will be delivered no matter what the trains transport 18:34:58 <planetmaker> But that makes the game harder 18:36:17 <GIORDANO> how ? 18:36:48 <dihedral> wiki.openttd.org - might contain a buch of answers to questions you do not even have yet 18:37:15 <dihedral> and by reading it you can win a free game 18:37:33 <Zuu> ^^ 18:37:34 <GIORDANO> i build station in anywhere like in agriculture, oil wells but the station write : ACCEPT NOTHING 18:37:52 <dihedral> would you mind stepping away from the all caps wordings? :-P 18:38:17 <dihedral> oil wells do not accept, they produce 18:38:23 <Zuu> Accept = What cargo can be transported to the station. 18:38:35 <Zuu> Try placing a station close to a factory. 18:38:36 <dihedral> the key word is 'to' 18:39:31 <Zuu> Hint: Factories accept copper ore, rubber and steel. 18:40:31 <GIORDANO> oh. 18:40:52 <GIORDANO> okay i will try it now :) 18:41:00 <GIORDANO> thank you. 18:41:03 * planetmaker would really welcome nicknames which don't shout 18:41:37 <Prof_Frink> I don't see BRIAN_BLESSED in here. 18:45:14 *** Lurimax [~quassel@68.59.202.84.customer.cdi.no] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:47:41 *** tokai [~tokai@port-92-195-54-45.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:49:35 *** tokai [~tokai@port-92-195-4-240.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 18:49:38 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 18:50:37 *** theholyduck [~holyduck@82.147.59.59] has joined #openttd 18:53:01 *** elmz [~elmz@184.213-167-126.customer.lyse.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:59:38 *** Devroush [~dennis@ip-83-134-169-149.dsl.scarlet.be] has quit [] 19:03:40 <dihedral> c'mon planetmaker, it's not just the NICKNAMES that are SHOUTING out into this CHANNEL 19:04:09 <planetmaker> the last one who did now obviously was you ;-) 19:04:38 <dihedral> ^^ 19:05:13 *** Keiya_ [~Keiya@pool-96-230-229-184.mdsnwi.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 19:06:50 *** andythenorth__ [~andy@cpc9-aztw25-2-0-cust133.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth__] 19:12:34 *** Keiya [~Keiya@pool-96-230-229-184.mdsnwi.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:13:13 *** lewymati [~lewymati@dynamic-87-105-137-114.ssp.dialog.net.pl] has joined #openttd 19:17:02 *** andythenorth_ [~andy@cpc9-aztw25-2-0-cust133.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 19:19:07 *** davis [~b@p5B28BFDD.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:24:32 *** JVassie_ [~James@92.27.149.231] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:27:42 *** KritiK [~Maxim@95-27-101-110.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 19:29:10 *** JVassie [~James@92.27.149.231] has joined #openttd 19:29:25 *** lewymati [~lewymati@dynamic-87-105-137-114.ssp.dialog.net.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:31:00 *** Pulec [~pulec@static-cl093181068250.unet.cz] has quit [] 19:31:16 *** Devroush [~dennis@ip-83-134-169-149.dsl.scarlet.be] has joined #openttd 19:37:57 *** norbert79 [~Norbi@178-164-218-131.pool.digikabel.hu] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:41:31 *** Keiya [~Keiya@pool-96-230-229-184.mdsnwi.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 19:41:41 *** keoz [~keikoz@418pc.wohnheimg.uni-frankfurt.de] has joined #openttd 19:43:41 <GIORDANO> thank you very much vitus for your help. It's work. :) 19:44:36 <GIORDANO> I'm very happy. ^.^ 19:45:26 *** Pulec [~pulec@static-cl093181068250.unet.cz] has joined #openttd 19:48:58 *** Keiya_ [~Keiya@pool-96-230-229-184.mdsnwi.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:52:40 *** GIORDANO [~giordano-@202.70.51.173] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:54:23 *** GIORDANO [~giordano-@202.70.51.173] has joined #openttd 19:57:05 *** GIORDANO [~giordano-@202.70.51.173] has left #openttd [] 19:57:57 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 20:18:10 *** Biolunar [~mahdi@blfd-4db18607.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 20:20:46 <Markk> Is there any way I can have two airports for the same station? 20:21:12 <dihedral> nope ^^ 20:21:28 <dihedral> but i think you can add a heliport and an airfield 20:21:49 <dihedral> if it helps :-P 20:21:58 <andythenorth_> how is new airports coming? 20:21:58 <Rubidium> dihedral: stop thinking :) 20:22:05 <Markk> dihedral: Nope 20:22:06 <Markk> :) 20:22:21 * dihedral switches is brains off 20:22:33 * andythenorth_ would like to put an end to helicopter fishing in FIRS 20:23:10 <dihedral> andythenorth_, add military fishing: 'fire in the hole' 20:23:22 <dihedral> # it's raining fish! halleluja! ... 20:23:43 *** DDR [~DDR@66.183.113.224] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:35:39 *** ar3kaw [~ident@87-239-75-101.internetia.net.pl] has quit [Quit: âI-n-v-i-s-i-o-nâ 3.2 (July '10)] 20:38:32 *** Keiya_ [~Keiya@pool-96-230-229-184.mdsnwi.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 20:41:03 <Zuu> dihedral: like the whale they blown up? 20:41:29 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: frosch * r21039 /trunk/src/vehicle.cpp: -Fix/Cleanup: Remove an unneeded and even wrong test, which is never reached anyway though. 20:44:33 *** xiong [~xiong@netblock-72-25-106-213.dslextreme.com] has joined #openttd 20:45:54 *** Keiya [~Keiya@pool-96-230-229-184.mdsnwi.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:48:35 *** lewymati [~lewymati@dynamic-87-105-137-114.ssp.dialog.net.pl] has joined #openttd 20:48:54 *** welshdragon [~dragon@millsie.net] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net] 20:50:59 *** LaSeandre [~sean@millsie.net] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net] 20:54:32 *** Chruker [~no@port113.ds1-vj.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [] 20:56:36 *** lewymati [~lewymati@dynamic-87-105-137-114.ssp.dialog.net.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:58:07 *** LaSeandre [~sean@millsie.net] has joined #openttd 20:58:07 *** welshdragon [~dragon@millsie.net] has joined #openttd 20:58:47 *** GIORDANO [~giordano-@202.70.51.173] has joined #openttd 20:59:05 <GIORDANO> where i must extract : gui4fix.tar ? 20:59:10 <GIORDANO> what folder ? 20:59:24 <GIORDANO> does anyone know ? 20:59:41 <GIORDANO> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=36&p=644152#p644152 21:00:22 <avdg> that post is 3 years old :o 21:00:54 <GIORDANO> oh 21:00:58 <GIORDANO> it's work now ? 21:02:00 *** nicfer [~nicfer@190.50.61.251] has joined #openttd 21:02:23 <GIORDANO> avdg if i find a *.extension, where i must put it ? 21:02:43 <GIORDANO> avdg if i find a *.TAR extension, where i must put it ? 21:02:45 <avdg> I don't know, I'm not doing gfx development 21:02:53 <avdg> and please don't float 21:03:30 <GIORDANO> ok :) 21:06:50 *** GIORDANO [~giordano-@202.70.51.173] has left #openttd [] 21:10:01 *** Kurimus [Kurimus@dsl-tkubrasgw1-fe83de00-38.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [] 21:12:08 *** KouDy [~KouDy@ip-89-176-220-140.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:17:17 *** GT [~GT@rt-scb-9f41.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 21:18:01 <GT> giordano: Use this tar http://jupix.info/openttd/gfxdev-repo/index.php?act=file&id=44, put it in the data directory 21:18:15 <avdg> he's gone 21:19:14 <GT> Well, that saves answering a reply to:it does not work 21:30:05 *** andythenorth_ [~andy@cpc9-aztw25-2-0-cust133.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth_] 21:31:18 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f56cd.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:32:24 <Eddi|zuHause> All Hell Breaks Loose! 21:32:40 <Eddi|zuHause> or in other words, MB actually releases a GRF... 21:33:44 <SmatZ> what's strange about it? 21:33:58 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF88DF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:34:10 *** theholyduck [~holyduck@82.147.59.59] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:34:18 <Eddi|zuHause> except for the ECS and FIRS cargo hacks, he hasn't actually released anything in 5 years... 21:34:37 <SmatZ> I thought he is a newgrf coder 21:34:44 <SmatZ> ok, I was wrong 21:35:08 * SmatZ is really lost in the newgrf world 21:35:27 <Hirundo> Eddi|zuHause: what, where? Do you have a link? 21:35:47 *** Keiya_ [~Keiya@pool-96-230-229-184.mdsnwi.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:35:53 <Eddi|zuHause> Hirundo: http://www.tt-ms.de/forum/showthread.php?tid=4929 21:36:08 *** Keiya_ [~Keiya@pool-96-230-229-184.mdsnwi.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 21:36:51 <Hirundo> Ah, the German forum. Could've known it 21:37:13 <Eddi|zuHause> Hirundo: "exclusive preview" ;) 21:37:34 <Hirundo> That takes one year in the TTD world 21:37:35 *** theholyduck [~holyduck@82.147.59.59] has joined #openttd 21:38:09 <Rubidium> what? Duke Nukem is released? 21:38:14 <SmatZ> hehe 21:38:15 *** Biolunar [~mahdi@blfd-4db18607.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: gn8] 21:38:35 <SmatZ> wasn't Duke Nukem: Manhattan Project actually DNF? 21:38:57 <Eddi|zuHause> Rubidium: no, it's not a DBSet... 21:39:20 <SmatZ> NewShips XL ?:) 21:39:22 <Rubidium> oh, it's not on bananas so it doesn't exist 21:39:36 <SmatZ> :D 21:42:07 *** Keyboard_Warrior [~holyduck@82.147.59.59] has joined #openttd 21:42:54 <Eddi|zuHause> SmatZ: no, it's not an "XL", it's more of an "Update" for supporting ECS/FIRS (including cargo graphics) 21:43:39 *** DDR [~DDR@66.183.113.224] has joined #openttd 21:48:39 *** theholyduck [~holyduck@82.147.59.59] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:49:07 *** ar3k [~ident@87-239-75-101.internetia.net.pl] has joined #openttd 21:52:49 *** Keiya_ [~Keiya@pool-96-230-229-184.mdsnwi.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:55:18 <PeterT> TrueBrain: who is a PeterT in the making? 21:57:23 <Eddi|zuHause> is it ironic to install windows in a window? ;) 22:00:21 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has joined #openttd 22:01:59 *** rhaeder [~quix0r@188.109.252.230] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:04:22 *** GT [~GT@rt-scb-9f41.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Quit: exit (0)] 22:05:23 *** rhaeder [~quix0r@188.109.252.230] has joined #openttd 22:06:43 *** keoz [~keikoz@418pc.wohnheimg.uni-frankfurt.de] has quit [Quit: keoz] 22:07:06 <Zuu> Eddi|zuHause: A computer that resides in a window between the glases? 22:07:38 <Zuu> Or just a virtual machine running as a window on your computer? 22:08:20 <Eddi|zuHause> just a virtual machine, i'm afraid ;) 22:09:18 <Eddi|zuHause> but it's kinda acting up 22:14:44 *** goblin [~goblin@krlh-5f72e8ef.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 22:16:13 <Zuu> Oh, too bad. A window-computer would be cool :-) 22:17:34 <Zuu> If you deattach the laptop screen or find a somewhat thin laptop where you can open up the screen 180 degrees, you could probably get it to fit in a 2-glass window. 22:18:11 <Zuu> Drill a hole for the power cord and possible a usb-hub for external devices and you have your window-computer :-) 22:20:18 <Zuu> I'm quite sure my apartment building is old enough to not have 3-glass windows, so that would be an "interesting" project. That said, I'd rather buy a extra window at Bauhaus than experimenting with my windows :-) 22:21:10 *** r0b0tb0y [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 22:23:21 <Zuu> Hmm, my kitchen windows has internal blinders and a good 5-10 cm distance between the outer and inner glass. More than plenty of space ^^ 22:27:22 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has quit [Quit: Sleep.] 22:29:17 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:32:19 *** Zuu [~Zuu@2.70.237.6] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:36:53 <fjb> Hm... a -0 would be helpful... 22:38:40 *** Keyboard_Warrior [~holyduck@82.147.59.59] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:47:30 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@89.246.187.157] has joined #openttd 22:52:28 *** xiong [~xiong@netblock-72-25-106-213.dslextreme.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:53:29 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.175.93] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:53:31 *** dfox [~dfox@ip-89-176-209-74.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:57:40 *** theholyduck [~holyduck@82.147.59.59] has joined #openttd 23:21:40 *** theholyduck [~holyduck@82.147.59.59] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:25:38 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 23:26:29 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B74610.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:27:15 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B74610.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 23:28:01 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@fuco.sks3.muni.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:28:54 *** Devroush [~dennis@ip-83-134-169-149.dsl.scarlet.be] has quit [] 23:45:49 *** pugi [~pugi@p4FCC5F28.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: I reject your reality and substitute my own] 23:46:43 *** avdg [~avdg@94-227-100-192.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:48:17 <Terkhen> good night 23:55:56 <SmatZ> good night, Terkhen 23:58:28 *** ^Spike^ [~spike@d200003.upc-d.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]