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00:03:40 <BadBrett> ouch! 00:03:50 <BadBrett> ;) 00:06:48 <BadBrett> sometimes it feels like i'm being ...gibed? is that the word? :) 00:07:27 <Kitty> hmm, replace vehicles doesn't allow you to replace helicopters with normal aircraft... 00:13:57 *** APTX [APTX@2001:470:1f0b:1a9d:240:63ff:fefb:5994] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:17:44 *** APTX [~APTX@89-74-57-139.dynamic.chello.pl] has joined #openttd 00:24:28 *** Hyronymus [~Thunderbi@s53757898.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 00:33:36 <Mazur> A helicopter isn't an aorcraft, but a cakemixer. Or to puree potato. Yabe make a slushi. 00:34:16 <Supercheese> wat 00:36:32 <Kitty> wtf, I don't know what set of vehicles this comes from, but I have just been able to purchase an airship that carries 150 tonnes of coal 00:36:47 <Supercheese> that's Av8 00:36:50 <Supercheese> Skylift 00:37:13 <Supercheese> http://users.tt-forums.net/pikka/wiki/index.php?title=Skylift_150 00:39:52 *** Zeknurn [~Zeknurn@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:40:36 *** Zeknurn [~Zeknurn@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 00:42:41 *** Stimrol [~Stimrol@dsl-149-87-36.hive.is] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:43:47 <Kitty> yeah 00:43:57 <Kitty> just hte idea of an airship to move coal amuses me 00:44:26 *** Stimrol [~Stimrol@dsl-149-87-36.hive.is] has joined #openttd 00:49:43 <Leander> Supercheese 00:49:44 <Leander> xxxxxxxxxx 00:49:51 <Supercheese> was? 00:49:55 <Supercheese> wut? 00:53:41 <BadBrett> actually, not too long ago they wanted to use airships to transport timber from siberia... but for some reason it didn't work out 00:53:59 <Supercheese> insufficient vespene ga-... I mean, helium 00:54:00 *** KritiK [~Maxim@95-28-22-131.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:54:26 <Supercheese> ATI FirePro V5700 Graphics Card for 00:54:28 <Supercheese> http://www.woot.com/offers/ati-firepro-v5700-3d-graphics-card-7 00:54:41 <Supercheese> probably only valid for the next few minutes (Woot-off) 00:55:03 <Supercheese> damn fine price 00:55:50 * Supercheese is not affiliated with woot in any way 01:01:29 *** fjb [~frank@p5481CC37.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 01:01:41 *** Frankr [~chatzilla@cpc4-pres13-2-0-cust231.pres.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 15.0.1/20120905151427]] 01:08:02 *** Leander [Simon@230.48-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:15:06 *** roadt [~roadt@60.168.95.21] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:20:02 *** fjb [~frank@p5481CC37.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:23:10 *** roadt [~roadt@60.168.95.21] has joined #openttd 01:52:02 *** Stimrol [~Stimrol@dsl-149-87-36.hive.is] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:53:30 *** Stimrol [~Stimrol@dsl-149-87-36.hive.is] has joined #openttd 02:11:02 *** Netsplit charon.oftc.net <-> resistance.oftc.net quits: tparker, Eddi|zuHause, @Belugas, MNIM, SpComb^, kais58, @orudge, George, blathijs, dotwaffle, (+32 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 02:11:38 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-33-249.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 02:11:45 *** Netsplit over, joins: @orudge, MrDetermination, Supercheese, DDR, Elukka, DaZ, Knogle, Prof_Frink, Eddi|zuHause, KenjiE20 (+32 more) 02:14:55 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:8c7f:8dfa:1676:7735] has quit [Quit: bye] 02:15:05 *** roadt [~roadt@60.168.95.21] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:15:19 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@port-92-195-8-78.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:18:04 *** mode/#openttd [+v Terkhen] by ChanServ 02:18:07 *** mode/#openttd [+o planetmaker] by ChanServ 02:29:45 *** roadt [~roadt@60.168.95.21] has joined #openttd 02:31:19 *** roadt [~roadt@60.168.95.21] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:35:02 *** Hyronymus [~Thunderbi@s53757898.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:35:25 *** Hyronymus [~Thunderbi@s53757898.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 03:10:37 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d172-218-21-135.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:30:33 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has joined #openttd 03:34:13 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has quit [] 03:53:58 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d172-218-21-135.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 03:58:42 *** MrDetermination [~DARKSEID@173-164-23-44-Nashville.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:20:50 *** KnogleAFK [knogle@1604ds5-soeb.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #openttd 04:20:50 *** Knogle [knogle@1604ds5-soeb.0.fullrate.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:56:02 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD446E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 04:56:17 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p5DC6703B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 05:23:55 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@94.13.8.182] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:30:40 *** CIA-2 [cia@cia.vc] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:32:00 *** sla_ro|master [slaco@78.96.213.97] has joined #openttd 05:44:28 <__ln__> 'nng 05:45:19 *** CIA-1 [cia@cia.vc] has joined #openttd 05:47:31 <Supercheese> s'lv 05:48:02 <Supercheese> what's the term for when a whole bunch of people get logged off and then auto-relog? netsplit? 05:48:26 <__ln__> correcto 05:48:36 <Supercheese> seems like one happened a couple hours back 05:48:54 <__ln__> did indeed 05:51:19 * Supercheese loves the new ctrl+arrow and ctrl+del in text fields 05:51:39 <Supercheese> very helpful for dealing with station names 05:58:08 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 05:58:32 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has left #openttd [] 06:08:43 <NGC3982> Morning. 06:09:17 <NGC3982> Supercheese: Oh, I have to try that. 06:10:18 <NGC3982> In stable? 06:18:55 <Supercheese> yes, in trunk nightly 06:19:09 * Supercheese wonders if "trunk nightly" is redundant 06:38:36 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-055-092.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 06:41:06 <NGC3982> Ah, i see. 06:49:57 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 06:50:49 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 06:52:45 *** DaZ [~derp@77-253-91-5.adsl.inetia.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:54:44 *** DaZ [~derp@87-205-248-166.adsl.inetia.pl] has joined #openttd 07:09:59 <Terkhen> good morning 07:11:40 <dihedral> hi 07:15:13 *** M1zera [~Miranda@ip-89-176-31-70.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 07:19:15 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-213-220-193-122.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 07:21:14 <KnogleAFK> g'morning 07:21:20 *** KnogleAFK is now known as Knogle 07:39:16 *** lugo [GBerten293@oxygen.evosurge.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:41:43 *** GBerten2936 [GBerten293@oxygen.evosurge.com] has joined #openttd 07:48:00 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:53:02 *** Stimrol [~Stimrol@dsl-149-87-36.hive.is] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:53:20 *** argoneus [~argoneus@smtp.gvp.cz] has joined #openttd 08:00:14 *** telanus [~telanus@196-215-153-66.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #openttd 08:04:50 <peter1138> top - 09:04:46 up 30 days, 4:06, 11 users, load average: 8.93, 7.88, 7.41 08:04:55 <peter1138> Cpu(s): 9.5%us, 38.8%sy, 0.0%ni, 10.6%id, 0.0%wa, 0.0%hi, 41.1%si, 0.0%st 08:04:56 <peter1138> :S 08:06:03 <NGC3982> Dat sum load. 08:07:26 *** telanus1 [~Barney_Er@196-215-153-66.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #openttd 08:09:07 <Eddi|zuHause> 41.1%si ... is that worse than 98%wa? 08:09:42 *** argoneus [~argoneus@smtp.gvp.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:11:37 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:15:31 <peter1138> Whatever it is, it's making shit slow :S 08:15:44 <Eddi|zuHause> maybe you're facing a DDoS :) 08:18:42 *** telanus [~telanus@196-215-153-66.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 08:20:56 *** telanus [~telanus@196-215-153-66.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #openttd 08:23:34 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-213-220-193-122.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 08:28:00 *** telanus1 [~Barney_Er@196-215-153-66.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:31:04 <peter1138> No, it's something with the system. Starts of fine but slowly gets worse. 08:34:47 *** DaZ [~derp@87-205-248-166.adsl.inetia.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:36:14 *** DaZ [~derp@77-255-242-105.adsl.inetia.pl] has joined #openttd 08:37:21 <NGC3982> Probably a train deadlock in the feeder-system. 08:37:27 <NGC3982> Harr, harr. 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13:25:06 <planetmaker> hi 13:25:18 <fjb> Moin 13:25:33 *** mrttd [4ff42aea@ircip4.mibbit.com] has quit [] 13:25:41 *** mrttd [4ff42aea@ircip1.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 13:25:55 <mrttd> ajdghpoiasudhgpoaihpoifhpweoifh 13:26:12 <planetmaker> there's an irc test channel... #test 13:27:00 <fjb> mrttd: English please. 13:27:38 <mrttd> :):)OK 13:28:55 *** sla_ro|master [slaco@78.96.213.97] has joined #openttd 13:29:29 <mrttd> :O:D 13:30:59 *** mrttd [4ff42aea@ircip1.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 13:38:25 *** argoneus [~argoneus@smtp.gvp.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:23:37 *** Hanfboy4000 [5d85117b@ircip3.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 14:26:39 <Hanfboy4000> hi together :) id like to translate some english websites of the open ttdwiki into german but i havenÂŽt got access to do this. i want to be a part of this community so what should i do to translate items into german? 14:27:05 <dihedral> register 14:27:08 <dihedral> login 14:27:10 <dihedral> do work 14:27:23 <Hanfboy4000> where i can register? 14:27:31 <Hanfboy4000> i didnt find anything 14:27:59 <dihedral> that is the first challenge of being part of the community 14:28:29 <Hanfboy4000> hahaha good joke :D ok then i have to solved this problem :D 14:29:02 <planetmaker> right... the wiki's login doesn't offer a register as it seems 14:30:05 <planetmaker> http://bugs.openttd.org/ <-- register there. The same login is valid on all OpenTTD pages. Except the forums which is separate 14:30:31 <planetmaker> or rather... account.openttd.org 14:30:35 <dihedral> i thought it was funny 14:31:13 <planetmaker> moderately. As the wiki - opposed to the other services - doesn't link back to account.openttd.org 14:31:37 <planetmaker> which in my book is not a good user experience :-) 14:31:38 *** DaZ [~derp@77-255-242-105.adsl.inetia.pl] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 14:32:04 <dihedral> nope 14:33:39 <Hanfboy4000> thanks a lot guys :D 14:34:06 <planetmaker> looking forward to your translations :-) 14:36:32 <planetmaker> woot? when I'm logged-in I see a link on the log-in page which allows me to go to account creation :D 14:37:13 <dihedral> :-P 14:37:18 <dihedral> bugs... bugs everywhere 14:37:51 *** argoneus [~argoneus@ip-78-102-118-47.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 14:38:35 <planetmaker> http://wiki.openttd.org/Special:UserLogin 14:38:47 *** DaZ [~derp@87-205-172-226.adsl.inetia.pl] has joined #openttd 14:38:52 *** Hanfboy4000 [5d85117b@ircip3.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 14:38:55 <planetmaker> do other users who are logged-in see the "create account", too? 14:40:44 <planetmaker> lol The boolean really works the wrong way around it seems. But I can't edit that page. At least via web 14:45:41 <fjb> It's not a bug, it's a security feature. 14:46:25 <planetmaker> to not even offer any clue as of where you can register? 14:48:35 <fjb> You can only register after autheticating yourself, thus proving you are authorized to register yourself. 14:48:44 <planetmaker> :D 14:49:02 <fjb> :P 14:55:31 *** BadBrett [~Bad_Brett@90-227-32-82-no42.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 15:08:32 *** szaman [szaman@merkury.cenzor.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:15:51 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r24532 /trunk/src/network/core/udp.cpp: -Change: try to read more UDP packets per game loop 15:18:30 *** Stimrol [~Stimrol@dsl-149-87-36.hive.is] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:20:13 *** Stimrol [~Stimrol@dsl-149-87-36.hive.is] has joined #openttd 15:24:43 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@94.13.8.182] has joined #openttd 15:46:47 *** szaman [szaman@merkury.cenzor.pl] has joined #openttd 15:49:00 *** FLHerne [~francis_h@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 16:01:15 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@wirenat-ulcn.strw.leidenuniv.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:20:49 *** KnogleAFK [knogle@1604ds5-soeb.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #openttd 16:20:49 *** Knogle [knogle@1604ds5-soeb.0.fullrate.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:49:07 *** KnogleAFK [knogle@1604ds5-soeb.0.fullrate.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:53:59 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:c96d:5254:cf95:12b7] has joined #openttd 16:54:02 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 17:02:22 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-4d008ed8.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 17:02:22 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@94.13.8.182] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:03:02 <frosch123> damn, i am totally lost in xkcd 17:03:09 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@94.13.8.182] has joined #openttd 17:03:20 <Supercheese> yeah, it's amazing 17:03:29 <Supercheese> I should try to wget all the images 17:03:29 <frosch123> i cannot find back home :p 17:03:43 <Supercheese> 1n1w.png, I think is home 17:03:53 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 17:04:04 <Supercheese> or very close to 17:04:14 <frosch123> oh i think i made it to the surface again 17:04:22 <Supercheese> 1n1e, actually 17:04:35 <Supercheese> http://imgs.xkcd.com/clickdrag/*.pngs for the images 17:04:47 <Supercheese> http://imgs.xkcd.com/clickdrag/1n1w.png 17:05:56 <blathijs> or http://xkcd-map.rent-a-geek.de/ for a scrollable, zoomable overview ;-) 17:06:13 <Supercheese> someone put THAT up fast 17:06:37 <blathijs> Supercheese: It's been there for most of the day already :-) 17:07:00 <Supercheese> you mean most of the night 17:07:02 <Supercheese> :P 17:07:03 <blathijs> Also, I think that pretty much every IRC channel I'm in has been talking about today's XKCD. Nice :-) 17:07:07 <Supercheese> GMT -8 17:07:15 <blathijs> GMT+1 here :-) 17:07:24 <blathijs> +2 even 17:07:37 * Supercheese is not factoring in the wizardry that is daylight savings 17:08:29 <frosch123> yay, i managed to drag once aound 17:08:35 <Eddi|zuHause> "i wonder if there's life up there" 17:08:44 <Eddi|zuHause> and then there's someone surfing on a plane :) 17:12:07 *** Endymion_Mallorn [~pplgoldbl@ool-4579e3ca.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #openttd 17:12:09 <FLHerne> frosch123: I am too :o 17:13:40 <Endymion_Mallorn> Silly question: If I have the EGRVTS NewGRF on my machine, is there any reason to download GRVTS? 17:13:49 <Eddi|zuHause> no 17:14:35 <FLHerne> Endymion_Mallorn: A 32bppEZ version of GRVTS is available, there's no corresponding one for eGRVTS yet :P 17:15:04 <FLHerne> If you're not using 32bppEZ, there's no need to have GRVTS anymore 17:16:40 <Endymion_Mallorn> Ah, awesome. 17:16:58 *** Simonn [Simon@230.48-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #openttd 17:17:17 <Simonn> guys 17:17:17 <Simonn> :( 17:17:21 <Simonn> I did it again 17:17:27 <Supercheese> Sounds like a song 17:17:36 <Eddi|zuHause> a really bad one... 17:17:41 <Supercheese> aye 17:17:41 <Eddi|zuHause> if you're old enough :p 17:18:02 <Endymion_Mallorn> I've been playing with EGRVTS for a while now, so when I ran across GRVTS in GRFCrawler, I raised an eyebrow. And what did you do, Simonn? 17:18:23 <Simonn> http://picpaste.com/pics/SimonPort_International__25th_Nov_2062-SNSyeLUK.1348075098.png 17:18:24 <Simonn> :( 17:18:33 <FLHerne> Endymion_Mallorn: The 'e' stands for 'extended', I think ;-) 17:18:58 <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, obviously your train line is too short :) 17:19:05 <Simonn> ya won't say 17:19:06 <Eddi|zuHause> Simonn: just turn the train around 17:19:18 <Simonn> there used to be two trains, but I had capacity problems so I added a third 17:19:20 <Endymion_Mallorn> It does. Which is why I wondered if the un-extended had anything that the extended didn't. 17:19:22 <Simonn> but didn't notice that they were too short 17:19:30 <Simonn> How do I turn em around 17:19:38 <Eddi|zuHause> click on it 17:19:40 <Simonn> I tried editing their orders and skipping the station 17:19:44 <Simonn> but they won't turn around 17:19:47 <Eddi|zuHause> there's a "turn around" button in the train view 17:19:52 <FLHerne> Endymion_Mallorn: The extended one has largely the same as the original, but then extended :P 17:20:15 <FLHerne> eGRVTS2 is completely different though 17:20:19 <Simonn> ooo theres a signal force train to continue 17:20:23 <Simonn> gonna try that one first 17:20:24 <Simonn> lol 17:20:29 <FLHerne> (And hasn't been properly released yet) 17:20:39 <Eddi|zuHause> Simonn: that is a "create a big explosion" button 17:20:49 <Simonn> pff it won't work 17:20:53 <Eddi|zuHause> Simonn: i strongly recomment you to never use it 17:21:07 <Simonn> I save first 17:21:08 <Simonn> ;) 17:21:08 <Eddi|zuHause> expecially in conjunction with path signals, it's pretty much useless 17:21:21 <Simonn> aa they are path signals 17:21:24 <Simonn> okay another question 17:21:28 <Simonn> if you are up for it 17:21:28 <Simonn> ;););) 17:21:41 <Simonn> do you know any GRFs like so I can buy vehicles 17:21:43 <Simonn> trains and planes 17:21:45 <Simonn> which are very big 17:21:56 <Simonn> Like double deck maglev trains 17:21:56 <Eddi|zuHause> not really 17:22:01 *** Alberth [~hat3@2001:980:272e:1:21a:92ff:fe55:fc8d] has joined #openttd 17:22:03 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 17:22:03 <Simonn> or superjumbo jets 17:22:10 <Simonn> which transport like 2000 passengers 17:22:24 <planetmaker> quak :-) 17:22:27 <Simonn> my hub is useless, it's congested so much I don't know what to do 17:22:32 <Alberth> quek :) 17:22:37 <planetmaker> happened to me, too today, frosch. Hi Alberth 17:22:42 <Endymion_Mallorn> Av8 maybe? 17:23:18 <Endymion_Mallorn> Either way, thanks for the answer - bbl. 17:23:23 *** Endymion_Mallorn [~pplgoldbl@ool-4579e3ca.dyn.optonline.net] has left #openttd [] 17:23:33 <Supercheese> Av8 late aircraft have, what, 600 passenger capacity? 17:23:51 <Supercheese> throw a couple of those on an international airport, that'll get things moving 17:23:55 <Simonn> I already have av8 17:24:09 <Simonn> all my aircrafts are 600 passengers 17:24:23 <Supercheese> then you need some better trains 17:24:36 <Supercheese> you running any trainsets or just default vehicles? 17:24:37 <Simonn> I have 6 airports 17:24:39 <Simonn> and all of them have a queue 17:25:09 <Simonn> I run standard trains I think 17:25:16 <Simonn> The Chimron or something 17:25:19 <Simonn> Level 4 Maglev 17:25:25 <Simonn> but that's not the problem I need double decker wagons 17:25:30 <Simonn> like 100 passengers per wagon instead of 40 17:25:32 <Supercheese> exactly 17:25:37 <Supercheese> you need to get a new trainset then 17:25:37 <Simonn> this is the future I'm having overpopulation troubles 17:25:41 <Supercheese> which means starting a new game 17:25:49 <Simonn> NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO 17:26:04 <Supercheese> if you don't want to start a new game, you're stuck with 40 pax per wagon 17:26:12 <Supercheese> (well, technically not) 17:26:18 <Eddi|zuHause> i think the transrapid in DBSetXL has like 120 passengers per wagon 17:26:23 <FLHerne> Simonn: Get a house set that makes less people :P 17:26:38 <Simonn> transrapid 17:26:42 <Simonn> can't I put that in with an existing map? 17:26:43 <Supercheese> but I'll definitely not recommend adding a train grf in a running game 17:26:47 <Supercheese> thought it is possible 17:26:53 <Supercheese> though* 17:26:58 <Eddi|zuHause> Simonn: not if you already have trains 17:27:08 <planetmaker> Supercheese, adding that trainset to the existing game, will 100% screw up the game 17:27:26 <planetmaker> it will screw up that much that it most likely will crash. 17:27:42 <planetmaker> I'm not exagerating here 17:28:34 <Simonn> come on there has to be a way 17:28:47 <Eddi|zuHause> Simonn: yes, sell all trains. 17:28:57 <Simonn> and then add a new train set? 17:30:13 <planetmaker> you don't need bigger trains or wagons. But better service and probably more trains which requires a better network 17:30:38 <Simonn> I need bigger trains 17:30:46 <Simonn> trust me 17:30:52 <Simonn> I'm a professional 17:31:03 *** M1zera [~Miranda@ip-89-176-31-70.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 17:31:06 <Alberth> that's what we are afraid of :) 17:32:15 <Simonn> I need bigger planes and bigger trains in the future man 17:32:21 <Simonn> 600 passengers in 2063 17:32:31 <Simonn> In 2063 they probably got planes of 6000 17:32:42 <Simonn> China is booming like crazy 17:32:54 <FLHerne> Was there a big change in the Advanced settings that breaks all the patches? 17:32:54 <Alberth> I don't think so, why would more people be traveling? 17:33:07 <Eddi|zuHause> "never trust a man who says he's good at something because it's his job." 17:33:13 * FLHerne keeps having crashes when trying to update them :P 17:33:29 <Simonn> because there are more people Alberth 17:33:46 <Alberth> but the western world is running empty :) 17:33:50 <Simonn> They all more and more planes in the bigger cities, but the existing airports become congested 17:33:52 <Simonn> lol 17:34:00 *** Biolunar [~mahdi@blfd-4db0e31f.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 17:34:03 <Simonn> I'm sure that's what Air traffic controllers in JFK are thinking 17:34:07 <Simonn> man every day less planes 17:34:24 <Rubidium> much bigger planes are likely not feasible 17:34:32 <Simonn> not now 17:34:35 <Simonn> but in the FUTURE! 17:34:43 <Rubidium> unless there is a signficant breakthrough 17:34:54 <Eddi|zuHause> well, fuel prices will double once israel attacks iran (probably soon after the US election) 17:34:56 <Alberth> Simonn: all this travel is just stupid imho, I think people would avoid it if they could 17:35:05 <Simonn> well trust me 17:35:10 <Eddi|zuHause> and they're unlikely to drop afterwards 17:35:29 <Fremen> H-bussen ftw 17:35:54 <Supercheese> Giant future-planes huh 17:35:58 <Alberth> FLHerne: adding of the tips in the window is the last big change there 17:36:14 <Simonn> http://picpaste.com/pics/SimonPort_International__6th_Jan_2063-HpsIAokj.1348076165.png 17:36:16 <Rubidium> Alberth: window? 17:36:18 <Simonn> does this look like people are staying at home 17:36:19 <Supercheese> *_DESC strings right? 17:36:19 <Eddi|zuHause> the A380 already almost dismembered themselves during flight 17:36:20 <Rubidium> you mean winglets? 17:36:28 <Alberth> Rubidium: advanced settings 17:36:39 <Rubidium> oh... 17:36:46 <Rubidium> desync! 17:36:54 <Alberth> sorry to break your idea :p 17:36:57 <Supercheese> Simon, you need to put your train stations farther apart 17:37:06 <Supercheese> too close leads to congestion 17:37:21 <Simonn> what do you mean farther apart? 17:37:23 <Simonn> they are all the same station 17:37:29 <Supercheese> wait what 17:37:30 <Simonn> all the stations you see there are one station 17:37:38 <Simonn> can't you see the tunnels 17:37:42 <Simonn> there are tracks going beneath them 17:38:23 <Supercheese> default wagon loading speeds are pretty low, IIRC 17:38:25 <Rubidium> you could reduce the length needed for switches by 66% 17:38:44 <Rubidium> just a single crossover so you have in-out-in-out-in-out-in-out-in 17:38:56 <Rubidium> and then untangle that where you have the space 17:39:16 <Simonn> I don't understand what you just said 17:39:16 <Simonn> lol 17:39:28 <Simonn> Supercheese : is there any way to boost this? 17:39:38 <Simonn> or ..... add bigger wagons? :( please there must be a way I'm willing to sell all my trains 17:39:46 <Simonn> and install a patch and then buy them again 17:40:41 <Supercheese> but are you willing to start a new game? if not, I cannot help you 17:40:49 <Supercheese> (in that regard anyway) 17:40:57 <Simonn> man... what about my city? :( 17:41:00 <Supercheese> you could still do with some better track layout 17:41:22 <Supercheese> but my own layouts are pretty weak, I defer to the experts for that 17:41:48 <FLHerne> Supercheese: Did you look at 0ad? :P 17:41:57 <Supercheese> yep 17:42:06 <FLHerne> :D 17:42:12 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host11-216-dynamic.48-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 17:42:13 <Simonn> http://picpaste.com/pics/SimonPort_International__6th_Jan_2063_2-hiduBwEk.1348076525.png 17:42:17 <Supercheese> Couldn't find any "trees swaying" graphics settings 17:42:20 <Wolf01> evenink 17:42:30 <Alberth> hi Wolf01 17:42:36 * FLHerne needs to encourage lots more people to use it so that there are more people to play MP with ;-) 17:42:39 <Supercheese> wait, Simonn, are you playing with cargodist or something? 17:42:46 <Simonn> cargodist? 17:43:08 <Supercheese> that's what your station window seems to imply 17:43:16 <Supercheese> Chill's Patchpack, perchance? 17:43:43 <Simonn> no :s I think it's just standard 17:43:55 <Supercheese> you just have zillions of transfers 17:44:00 <Simonn> I have 17:44:01 <Simonn> lol 17:44:05 <Simonn> I told you it's my hub 17:44:11 <Simonn> thats why I need bigger planes 17:44:18 * Supercheese generally avoids passenger transfers 17:44:27 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1A278.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:44:29 <Simonn> There are 6 airports that tap off Simonnport 17:44:33 <Simonn> and about 150 trains 17:44:38 <Simonn> but it can't handle traffic 17:44:49 <Supercheese> no kidding 17:45:13 <Supercheese> yeah, with default maglevs I think you're pretty hosed on capacity and loading speed 17:45:13 <Simonn> It stays pretty stable at 13.000 17:45:31 <Supercheese> I haven't played vanilla trains in so long 17:46:54 <Simonn> http://picpaste.com/pics/SimonPort_International__8th_Jan_2063-xIt0jX9P.1348076804.png 17:46:59 <Simonn> I can't leave this magnificent city behind 17:47:21 <FLHerne> Supercheese; Settings menus don't really exist yet. local.cfg :P 17:47:26 <Supercheese> You could replicate by making a new scenario and mashing the "expand" button on a city of your choice :P 17:47:38 <Supercheese> ah, guess I have to dive around appdata 17:48:10 <Simonn> do you even know how many bus stations there are in these cities 17:48:18 <Supercheese> (was not serious) 17:48:26 <Simonn> =((( 17:48:30 <FLHerne> Oh, apparently wavy trees are on by default in A11 :-) 17:49:39 <Rubidium> Simonn: http://rbijker.net/openttd/Kol%C3%ADn%20Transport,%202000-09-02.png <- minimal signalling near the station 17:50:23 <Rubidium> you need 6 tiles for tunnel entrance+track+signals, I need only 3 17:51:08 <Simonn> yes but in my case a train can go from the other side to the other 17:51:11 <Simonn> no? 17:51:12 <Eddi|zuHause> i would probably switch around the track directions 17:51:22 <Eddi|zuHause> i.e. all currently incoming tracks should be outgoing 17:51:26 <Eddi|zuHause> and vice versa 17:51:50 <Eddi|zuHause> then all trains have two choices at any time 17:52:01 <Rubidium> Simonn: you should do that before the station already 17:52:04 <Eddi|zuHause> currently the outermost track has no choice 17:52:17 <Eddi|zuHause> (speaking about Rubidium's picture) 17:52:25 <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause: true, it's just a simple idea regarding to rough layout 17:52:34 <Simonn> in my case there is always a choice 17:52:35 <Simonn> lol 17:52:41 <Rubidium> or rather before the tunnels start 17:52:53 <Simonn> before the tunnel starts 17:52:58 <Simonn> there is another tunnel with another station 17:53:11 <Rubidium> that way vehicles won't be blocking eachother when entering/leaving 17:53:30 <Rubidium> Simonn: so it's just trains going back and forth between two stations? 17:53:36 <Simonn> no 17:53:50 <Simonn> it's a line 17:53:55 <Eddi|zuHause> Rubidium: i know, i had a similar idea a few years ago. 17:54:01 <Simonn> going east to west in my city 17:54:04 <Simonn> and in the middle there is my hub 17:54:29 <Rubidium> well, I wouldn't put a terminus in the middle as 'hub' 17:54:43 <Simonn> terminus? :p 17:55:04 <Rubidium> a station where trains have to turn around 17:55:04 *** xQR [xor@the.x-base.org] has joined #openttd 17:55:12 <Simonn> they don't have to turn around 17:55:59 <Rubidium> most platforms in the screenshot are connected by track at only one side 17:56:13 <Simonn> yeah but those have enough capacity 17:56:30 <Simonn> well.. you know not enough 17:56:34 <Simonn> but they only lack about 20.000 17:56:55 <Supercheese> off to classes 17:56:59 <Supercheese> valete omnes 17:56:59 <Simonn> http://picpaste.com/SimonPort_International__8th_Jan_2063_2-SX5zx6sb.png 17:57:02 <Simonn> this is the problem 17:57:03 *** Supercheese [~Password4@76.178.163.204] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 15.0.1/20120905151427]] 17:57:13 <Simonn> http://picpaste.com/pics/SimonPort_International__8th_Jan_2063_2-SX5zx6sb.1348077416.png this 17:58:07 <Rubidium> you can't help much there 17:58:20 <Rubidium> unless you destroy some houses/airport 17:58:32 <Simonn> well that's what I did 17:58:36 <Simonn> there used to be only 4 tracks 17:59:06 <Simonn> Thats why I say I need double decker passenger carts 17:59:10 <Rubidium> even then you could consider building half at the other side of the airport 17:59:12 <Simonn> without destroying my world :( starting a new game 17:59:43 <Simonn> at the other side of the airport there are 4 more airports 18:00:31 <Rubidium> can't you add livestock carriages and refit them to passengers? 18:00:31 <Rubidium> "cattle class" ;) 18:00:45 <Simonn> lol 18:01:59 <Simonn> http://picpaste.com/pics/SimonPort_International__8th_Jan_2063_3-oA7ACp1h.1348077715.png 18:02:01 <Simonn> my 4 airports 18:02:29 <Simonn> and I could buy like 60 more planes, because my airports at the borders of the map are flooded too with 8000+ passengers waiting at all of them 18:02:38 <Simonn> but then the hub couldn't handle anymore 18:08:33 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 18:12:00 *** MNIM [~mBuntu@ip5452ffad.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:22:28 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@host86-165-87-251.range86-165.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 18:23:19 <NGC3982> Evening. 18:23:41 <frosch123> damn, why did my compiler stop inlining static const integers when they are class members :s 19:20:57 <Simonn> I think my trains in openttd look like this http://uberkuul.files.wordpress.com/2006/05/indian%20train%20no%20kidding.jpg 19:20:59 <Simonn> but then maglev 19:21:31 <Eddi|zuHause> <Rubidium> can't you add livestock carriages and refit them to passengers? <-- the german government paid "3rd class group tickets" for these transports in the 1940a 19:30:51 <Simonn> lol 19:30:56 <Simonn> EDIT: read the whole thread. It answers all you can want to know. No, I won't put a summary here 19:30:57 <Simonn> </planetmaker> 19:30:59 <Simonn> planetmaker :@@@ :P 19:36:33 <planetmaker> ... ? 19:37:35 <planetmaker> oh, changing newgrfs. Yes, you very much look like the person not reading anything, but then come whining that stuff broke on your oh-so-precious savegame 19:37:44 <planetmaker> so no, especially to you I cannot recommend it 19:37:55 <Simonn> lol 19:37:56 <Simonn> ;( 19:38:05 <Simonn> planetmaker have I ever told you that you ae very, very handsome 19:38:11 * Simonn massages planetmaker muscular shoulders 19:42:16 <Chris_Booth> wow how do these people find there way to IRC? 19:43:12 <Alberth> they read the wiki? 19:43:40 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-055-092.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 19:45:09 * Simonn nods 19:45:10 <Simonn> the wiki! 19:46:40 <Simonn> I googled for openttd IRC 19:46:41 <Simonn> lol 19:46:52 <Simonn> I didn't even know there was a wiki at that time 19:48:47 <Alberth> ok, that confirms you're not reading anything :p 19:49:07 <Simonn> hey I read the entire wiki after I found out 19:49:19 <Alberth> just kidding :) 19:49:34 <Simonn> You don't know how much time I spend using the blocks to build roads/rails/whatever who only work in one direction 19:50:13 <Simonn> before discovering that you could use that all-direction and just slide across the map 19:50:28 <Alberth> playing OpenTTD cannot be a problem, can it? :D 19:50:42 <Simonn> no but I found it hard to get into at first 19:50:50 <Simonn> the first hours 19:50:56 <Alberth> it is, but deep games often have that 20:25:44 <frosch123> openttd? no bundled tutorial. zero points 20:29:12 <NGC3982> Alberth: It sure can. 20:29:34 <NGC3982> My stock exchanges have gone down the tubes completely since i started playing again. 20:29:42 <NGC3982> Since i used to put my spare time on trading. 20:29:51 <NGC3982> Not i put my spare time on NewGRFs. 20:29:52 <NGC3982> :( 20:30:39 <Alberth> NewGRFs are much better :) 20:31:16 <Alberth> you can share them and get richer at the same time :) 20:34:29 * planetmaker hugs Alberth 20:39:43 <Alberth> :) 20:53:13 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1A278.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:59:44 *** BadBrett [~Bad_Brett@90-227-32-82-no42.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:02:28 *** Alberth [~hat3@2001:980:272e:1:21a:92ff:fe55:fc8d] has left #openttd [] 21:04:19 <NGC3982> http://www.flickr.com/photos/appemobile/8004112398/in/photostream 21:04:24 * NGC3982 hands oround the channel. 21:04:38 <NGC3982> -o+a 21:05:23 * fjb gets hungry. 21:07:41 <xQR> mh, anybody knows why that delay of (at least) 1 tick for every DoCommand is needed in scripts? 21:08:09 <xQR> want to set goals for all cities on the map from a citybuilder gamescript 21:08:15 <xQR> but a bigger map can have 1000 towns/cities and if i set 4 cargo goals for each that is 4000 ticks waiting time = more than 2 minutes 21:08:21 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:08:37 <xQR> so basically it now on startup just sits there and tells you "please wait" :/ 21:08:41 *** sla_ro|master [slaco@78.96.213.97] has quit [Quit: DANGER sla.ro is OFFLINE DANGER] 21:08:54 <xQR> there are some SetGrowthRate calls too which do the same 21:09:04 <xQR> and ofc other actions beside that delay take time too 21:09:13 <xQR> but that delay is really the annoying part here 21:09:27 <Rubidium> in networking you need to run it in the next tick as the clients are already executing the current one 21:09:37 <Rubidium> since you want the result of the command you have to wait for that 21:10:17 <xQR> well in my case the server is empty, but an admin port client is connected, probably treated like a client for that matter 21:10:35 <xQR> but i already thought it would be something like that 21:10:39 <xQR> thx for explanation 21:10:47 <Rubidium> furthermore an AI building a whole network in one tick ain't nice 21:11:00 <xQR> it's only initialization 21:11:19 <xQR> later actions are only done for single objects 21:11:49 *** Markavian` [~Markavian@78-105-168-146.zone3.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 21:11:59 <Rubidium> doesn't it already run during map generation? Then has already done 1280 ticks 21:12:12 <Rubidium> and 1000 towns is an awful lot in MP 21:12:15 <xQR> no, it is run a bit later 21:12:30 <Rubidium> @calc 2048*2048/(40*40) 21:12:30 <DorpsGek> Rubidium: 2621.44 21:12:46 <Rubidium> @calc 512*512/(40*40) 21:12:46 <DorpsGek> Rubidium: 163.84 21:13:04 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has joined #openttd 21:13:29 <Rubidium> so for a reasonable MP map it's not that much 21:16:48 <xQR> i guess i will change it so that the initialization is done bit by bit in the background 21:17:08 <Terkhen> good night 21:17:11 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@host86-165-87-251.range86-165.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:19:16 *** mkv` [~Markavian@78-105-168-146.zone3.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:19:51 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@host86-165-87-251.range86-165.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 21:21:22 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has joined #openttd 21:22:34 <xQR> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/21345942/Selection275656215.png 21:22:51 <xQR> that's a 1024x1024, quite common when i check the current server list 21:23:20 <xQR> as i said there are some more calls, SetCargoGoal was only one example 21:23:27 <xQR> maybe i can optimize a bit, but the central problem stays 21:23:44 <Rubidium> no reason so many people complain that their computer can't keep up 21:24:10 <xQR> mh? 21:24:31 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-78-45-94-114.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 21:24:56 <xQR> what do you mean, the clients would suffer because of the DoCommands? 21:28:35 <xQR> there should be a SetCargoGoal and SetGrowthRate that can be applied to all towns and cities in one step (and the respective DoCommand) 21:28:46 <xQR> useful for such initializations 21:29:00 *** Stimrol [~Stimrol@dsl-149-87-36.hive.is] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:29:21 <Rubidium> no, huge maps + lots of vehicles == slowness 21:30:04 <xQR> i don't see what that would have to do with my current specific problem, it doesn't even need vehicles to be slow :P 21:30:31 <Rubidium> but you talk about a 1024x1024 map 21:30:39 <Rubidium> which takes ages to initialise 21:30:44 *** Stimrol [~Stimrol@dsl-149-87-36.hive.is] has joined #openttd 21:30:45 <Rubidium> a smaller map takes much less 21:31:09 <xQR> it wouldn't if there were DoCommands that could set town cargo goals for all towns on the map in one step ;) 21:31:33 <Rubidium> that would makesome sense, yes 21:31:46 <xQR> this is not about the map or server being slow in any other way, everything else is fine 21:31:58 <xQR> it's only these calls that generate DoCommands for each of the citiey 21:32:01 <xQR> *cities 21:33:21 <xQR> other than that i know exactly what you mean, players demand bigger and higher and faster and whatnot games all the time 21:33:42 <xQR> and you give them only a little bit bigger and they already start to whine "i can't connect anymore", "it's lagging" 21:33:52 <xQR> everyday admin business :P 21:35:03 <Rubidium> but seriously... most MP games are either quick competitive or some cooperative thing. In both cases a >512x512 map would be too big to be filled 21:35:56 <xQR> though i think it's also a software problem to some degree, people especially complain that OpenTTD takes only 0.01% of available bandwidth and 10% of available CPU but they get told their computer is too slow 21:36:04 <xQR> feels like driving a ferrari constantly in first gear 21:36:13 <xQR> i guess that's because OpenTTD only has a single thread 21:36:43 <Rubidium> it's not worth the effort to change that 21:38:34 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d172-218-21-135.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 21:41:34 <xQR> our 2048x512 server at the end of the game is usually so crowded that people have a hard time finding a free spot to lay a track 21:46:42 <xQR> i saw people in or close to the admin team often indicate (or even state directly) that they think single player is more important 21:46:52 <xQR> which is fine, it's an opinion someone can have 21:47:19 <xQR> but it gets weird when people that probably haven't played a single public multiplayer game within the last 2 years tell you "how multiplayer games are" 21:47:30 <xQR> only coop and quick competetive? 21:47:38 <xQR> just scrolled through the server list and didn't find a single server indicating it would be cooperative in some way 21:47:52 *** Bad_Brett [~Bad_Brett@90-227-32-82-no42.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 21:47:53 <xQR> what i did find though is several servers showing a huge goal that cannot be reached in a quick game 21:47:55 <planetmaker> it's funny when people join a channel and tell us what we know, what we did and how we should look at things 21:47:59 <xQR> current top 5 by player count has a goal of 1.5 billion EUR 21:49:08 <xQR> also not all of the players join and play the full time - some really do (and sleep some hours between, the freaks :P) but others just enjoy playing there for 1 hour in a map where many things are happening 21:50:02 *** FLHerne [~francis_h@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has left #openttd [] 21:52:20 <xQR> i don't see to what in my explanations that would refer to planetmaker 21:52:59 <Rubidium> I currently see one long goal and two short goals in top 5 21:53:15 <xQR> yep 21:57:48 <xQR> anyway, just set up a 512x512 map with number_towns = 3, which lead to 192 towns/cities 21:58:04 <xQR> with 5 DoCommands per town it's still almost thousand ticks 21:58:22 <xQR> i still think i could use commands for all towns :P 21:59:08 <xQR> (script actually took 1295 ticks, as it also does other things and probably can still be optimized a bit) 22:00:49 <xQR> so would it make sense to create a bug tracker entry for it or are there technical reasons why this couldn't work? 22:01:12 <Rubidium> a single command to set the same goal for each town? 22:01:18 <Rubidium> or multiple command/tick? 22:01:29 <xQR> basically SetCargoGoal() working without a town id, then affecting all towns 22:01:34 <xQR> same for SetGrowthRate() 22:01:46 <xQR> it wouldn't make sense mid-game but good for initialization work 22:02:18 <xQR> no, they should just lead to a single DoCommand each which is interpreted by the clients accordingly 22:02:46 <Rubidium> for the single command it makes sense 22:02:59 <xQR> ok thx 22:05:53 *** Osai [~Osai@schere.no-ip.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:07:12 *** V453000 [~V453000@bnc.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:07:16 *** avdg [~avdg@bnc.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:07:27 *** Hirundo [~Hirundo@schere.no-ip.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:07:46 *** tneo [~tneo@schere.no-ip.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:07:54 *** ^Spike^ [~Spike@schere.no-ip.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:08:27 *** Yexo [~Yexo@schere.no-ip.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:09:33 *** XeryusTC [~XeryusTC@bnc.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:09:36 *** Terkhen [~Terkhen@schere.no-ip.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:09:36 *** planetmaker [~planetmak@schere.no-ip.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:09:36 *** SmatZ [~smatz@schere.no-ip.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:10:29 *** telanus1 [~telanus@196-215-153-66.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has left #openttd [] 22:21:13 *** FLHerne [~francis_h@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 22:21:16 *** Supercheese [~Password4@76.178.163.204] has joined #openttd 22:22:45 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:22:47 *** planet [b20b3db0@ircip1.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 22:27:42 *** Bad_Brett [~Bad_Brett@90-227-32-82-no42.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [] 22:27:57 *** Bad_Brett [~Bad_Brett@90-227-32-82-no42.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 22:29:47 <Bad_Brett> did the server just crash? 22:30:21 <Supercheese> hm> 22:30:26 <Supercheese> ?* 22:31:43 <Bad_Brett> everybody quit the channel... and i can't access openttdcoop 22:32:01 <Supercheese> I'm not on ottdcoop, but this one's been fine for me 22:32:25 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@host86-165-87-251.range86-165.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 16.0/20120911232325]] 22:32:32 <Bad_Brett> it happened just before you arrived 22:32:45 <Bad_Brett> it seems 22:32:49 <Bad_Brett> anyway 22:32:56 <Supercheese> yeah, perhaps 22:32:57 <Bad_Brett> i can ask you instead 22:33:05 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:34:31 <xQR> a lot of people on IRC with bnc.openttdcoop.org host quit IRC nearly 30 minutes ago 22:34:34 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 22:34:39 <xQR> [23:17:21] â V453000 (~V453000@bnc.openttdcoop.org) (Ping timeout: 480 seconds) 22:34:41 <xQR> for example 22:35:00 <xQR> so looks like there is some problen 22:35:04 <xQR> -n+m 22:35:11 <Bad_Brett> yep 22:35:16 <KenjiE20> that should probably be adressed over in ##openttdcoop, but yes 22:35:22 <KenjiE20> -# 22:36:31 <Bad_Brett> if i use two cargos from the cargo table i write [[IRON,8],[COAL,8]] and it works perfectly... but when I try to use only one cargo, i can't get it to work... i thought it would be as simple as [IRON,8], but it won't work... (i'm working with industry_tiles) 22:38:08 <Supercheese> try double brackets 22:38:13 <Supercheese> accepted_cargos: [[IRON, 8]]; 22:38:20 <xQR> http://bugs.openttd.org/task/5304 <-- hope i explained it correctly 22:39:33 <Bad_Brett> tried that as well, didn't work :( 22:40:28 <Supercheese> Here's some of my code that works 22:40:29 <Bad_Brett> ...and i tried it again, and like magic, it did 22:40:32 <Supercheese> oh 22:40:34 <Supercheese> nevermind lol 22:40:50 <Supercheese> :) 22:40:56 <Bad_Brett> i guess problem's solved... i must've forgotten to save or something like that 22:41:09 <Supercheese> yeah perhaps 22:45:34 *** keoz [~keikoz@142.90.76.86.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Quit: keoz] 22:49:58 <planet> sorry for the inconvenience wrt #openttdcoop DevZone etc. The datacentre knows it has to take actions... currently it seems completely unreachable. 22:50:43 *** Frankr [~chatzilla@cpc4-pres13-2-0-cust231.pres.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 22:51:52 <Wolf01> 'night 22:51:54 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host11-216-dynamic.48-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 22:52:51 *** argoneus [~argoneus@ip-78-102-118-47.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:55:05 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:55:35 <Zuu> xQR: Will need to get http://bugs.openttd.org/task/5206 into trunk before the ScriptController:Break() function can be introduced. The patch is somewhat done, but I need to convince myself that I have implemented it in a sane way. 22:59:28 *** MNIM [~mBuntu@ip5452ffad.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has joined #openttd 23:00:40 <xQR> yeah i saw that dependency 23:00:50 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: frosch * r24533 /trunk/src/smallmap_gui.cpp: -Codechange: Move position determination on minimap legend to separate function. 23:01:28 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: frosch * r24534 /trunk/src/smallmap_gui.cpp: -Feature: Highlight industries on the smallmap when the mouse is over an entry in the legend. 23:02:03 <Eddi|zuHause> that sounds interesting 23:02:13 <Supercheese> oooh, yes it does 23:02:21 <frosch123> not quite sure though :p 23:02:29 <frosch123> it does not exactly fit ottd 23:02:34 <frosch123> but firs was so confusing 23:02:42 <Eddi|zuHause> hehe :) 23:03:31 <Eddi|zuHause> i still have this open suggestion that the industry chain view gives you an industry list filter (not just a minimap filter) 23:04:06 <frosch123> it also needs a output/input selection 23:14:36 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-055-092.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit [] 23:16:35 <frosch123> night 23:16:38 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-4d008ed8.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:16:47 <planet> night frosch... 23:16:52 <Bad_Brett> i think it sound like an excellent idea 23:17:23 <Bad_Brett> with 32 cargos and tons of industries, a tooltip would be really helpful 23:22:22 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has quit [] 23:33:01 <Simonn> Supercheese !!!! 23:39:20 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:40:04 *** Hirundo [~Hirundo@schere.no-ip.org] has joined #openttd 23:40:34 *** Osai [~Osai@schere.no-ip.org] has joined #openttd 23:41:04 *** Terkhen [~Terkhen@schere.no-ip.org] has joined #openttd 23:41:04 *** ^Spike^ [~Spike@schere.no-ip.org] has joined #openttd 23:41:04 *** SmatZ- [~smatz@schere.no-ip.org] has joined #openttd 23:41:07 *** mode/#openttd [+o Terkhen] by ChanServ 23:41:34 *** Yexo [~Yexo@schere.no-ip.org] has joined #openttd 23:42:04 *** planetmaker [~planetmak@schere.no-ip.org] has joined #openttd 23:42:20 *** planetmaker is now known as Guest7626 23:42:34 *** tneo [~tneo@schere.no-ip.org] has joined #openttd 23:42:45 *** FLHerne [~francis_h@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:47:17 *** SmatZ- is now known as SmatZ 23:47:33 *** V453000 [~V453000@bnc.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 23:47:53 *** XeryusTC [~XeryusTC@bnc.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 23:48:03 *** avdg [~avdg@bnc.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd