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00:04:56 *** roboboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:09:43 *** alluke [~oftc-webi@cs181208223.pp.htv.fi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:14:06 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6DD5E.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:21:40 *** MysticalBurrito [~michael@mo-76-0-38-61.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #openttd 00:21:47 <MysticalBurrito> Could someone help me? 00:25:21 <samu> ewww lol, property maintenance costs with infrastructure costs 00:25:46 <samu> inflation + high costs + 4% interest, this is insane 00:25:58 <MysticalBurrito> I need help with the resolution for OpenTTD on my phone. 00:26:20 <glx> we don't support mobile version 00:26:48 <MysticalBurrito> I've looked everywhere for help with this. :/ 00:27:41 <samu> 2 commuters: -£16,460,340 /yr 00:28:42 <MysticalBurrito> could I be linked to a site that might be able to help me? 00:29:47 <samu> who decided on these costs for airports? 00:32:00 <samu> omg... his aircraft just crashed 00:32:22 <MysticalBurrito> can someone link me to a site that could help me with PPCTTD? 00:33:02 <samu> I can't, sorry 00:33:16 <samu> i don't know what that is 00:35:07 <MysticalBurrito> PPCTTD Is the Pocket PC version of the original TTD 00:36:34 <samu> eSoft interactive 00:36:37 <samu> i think 00:37:18 <MysticalBurrito> Yeah 00:37:24 *** glx [glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Bye !] 00:39:56 <samu> http://www.esoftinteractive.com/ 00:40:03 <samu> seems outdated.... 2009 00:41:06 <samu> http://www.esoftinteractive.com/openttd.html 00:43:55 <samu> support@esoftinteractive.com 00:44:09 <samu> i seriously doubt they even exist 00:44:12 <samu> but meh... try 00:53:15 <MysticalBurrito> the OpenTTD page on esoft just lead me back to the forums 00:56:32 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-060-001.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit [] 01:02:21 *** MysticalBurrito [~michael@mo-76-0-38-61.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:10:04 *** samu [~oftc-webi@164.104.166.178.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:16:06 *** snorre_ [~snorre@c3D04BF51.dhcp.as2116.net] has joined #openttd 01:17:50 *** snorre [~snorre@c3D04BF51.dhcp.as2116.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:23:53 *** snorre [~snorre@c3D04BF51.dhcp.as2116.net] has joined #openttd 01:25:40 *** snorre_ [~snorre@c3D04BF51.dhcp.as2116.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:35:48 *** Djohaal [~Djohaal@189.58.13.185.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:43:50 *** snorre_ [~snorre@c3D04BF51.dhcp.as2116.net] has joined #openttd 01:45:35 *** snorre [~snorre@c3D04BF51.dhcp.as2116.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:50:09 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d108-180-70-43.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 01:51:37 *** snorre [~snorre@c3D04BF51.dhcp.as2116.net] has joined #openttd 01:52:15 *** snorre_ [~snorre@c3D04BF51.dhcp.as2116.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 02:17:19 *** perk11 [~perk11@broadband-46-242-13-101.nationalcablenetworks.ru] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 02:20:43 *** snorre_ [~snorre@c3D04BF51.dhcp.as2116.net] has joined #openttd 02:23:30 *** snorre [~snorre@c3D04BF51.dhcp.as2116.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:29:32 *** snorre [~snorre@c3D04BF51.dhcp.as2116.net] has joined #openttd 02:32:23 *** snorre_ [~snorre@c3D04BF51.dhcp.as2116.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:48:32 *** roboboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 03:14:56 *** Elukka [~Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [] 03:56:19 *** Nat_aS [~nat@00179a279bbd.click-network.com] has joined #openttd 03:59:51 *** Dr_Tan [~nat@00179a279bbd.click-network.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 04:31:24 <George> http://bugs.openttd.org/task/5588 04:55:15 *** roboboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:05:53 *** Guest1145 [~Adit@120.168.1.65] has joined #openttd 05:08:47 *** Guest1145 is now known as adit 05:09:25 *** adit 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[martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:21:24 *** Elukka [~Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 11:23:53 *** Alice3 [~Alice@cpc18-grim14-2-0-cust478.12-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [] 11:25:58 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 11:50:10 *** Pecio [~fgh@abxw41.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:02:26 <planetmaker> Zuu doesn't like my story books :-( 12:27:14 <Zuu> planetmaker: The user don't write the book 12:28:14 <Zuu> I do like the icon where you see the height of the book, but don't know if it fits the TTD style. 12:41:52 <planetmaker> That's true, it seems to not exactly fit the others 12:43:26 <planetmaker> But the plain sheets are very similar imho to the news icon 12:47:31 <planetmaker> with the pen I thought more instead of writing yourself it's the story as its being written 12:51:07 <Zuu> I see your point 13:16:16 *** Midnightmyth 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[~Alice@cpc18-grim14-2-0-cust478.12-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 16:24:24 *** Pol [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 16:51:38 *** Samu [~oftc-webi@100.26.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #openttd 16:51:54 <Samu> hi 16:55:56 *** glx [glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 16:55:59 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 16:56:00 *** Mek [~quassel@marijnalexwedding.com] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 16:56:12 *** Mek [~quassel@marijnalexwedding.com] has joined #openttd 16:57:11 <Samu> intel iris pro reviews are insane, rip AMD 16:57:20 *** apiecux [~apiecux@ui89-892t.21z4-ee.ldti.srv.parano.me] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:57:22 *** apiecux [~apiecux@ui89-892t.21z4-ee.ldti.srv.parano.me] has joined #openttd 16:59:10 *** Mek [~quassel@marijnalexwedding.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 16:59:37 *** Mek [~quassel@marijnalexwedding.com] has joined #openttd 17:01:13 <Samu> that's sad to see, wathcing those graphs, even puts nvidia into jeopardy 17:03:25 <Samu> http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph6993/55285.png 17:03:51 <sla_ro|master> :O 17:03:55 <sla_ro|master> I got GT 640 17:04:38 <Samu> it's still a quad-core cpu 17:04:44 <Samu> with HT 17:04:56 <sla_ro|master> I like NVIDIA, beside the price 17:11:07 *** Progman [~progman@p57A18389.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 17:11:28 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 17:11:47 *** Mek_ [~quassel@marijnalexwedding.com] has joined #openttd 17:12:54 *** Mek [~quassel@marijnalexwedding.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:13:59 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has joined #openttd 17:21:16 *** Chrill [~chrischri@c83-253-84-230.bredband.comhem.se] has quit [Quit: Yolo] 17:25:32 <Samu> I'm coming into a scoring scheme for the existing OpenTTD AIs 17:26:22 <Samu> an average score for each AI, running 16 different settings 17:27:23 *** ksf [~ksf@d186090.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #openttd 17:27:24 <Samu> and using excel this time, at least I can sort columns 17:27:37 <ksf> so... split before you join, *all times and always*? 17:27:43 <Samu> notepad would make me lost 17:27:49 <ksf> I've got a counterexample here: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/84/Frankfurter_Kreuz.png 17:28:32 *** DarkAce-Z [~BillyMays@50.107.53.195] has joined #openttd 17:28:33 <ksf> (right lane traffic) 17:29:00 <Samu> hi ksf, wrong channel or did i miss somethnig 17:29:20 <ksf> nah, I just crashed in and defined the topic to be hub design. 17:30:55 <Samu> hmm I missed something :( 17:32:00 *** DarkAceZ [~BillyMays@50.107.53.195] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:32:09 <ksf> the usual problem with joining lines before you split is that that's prone to jamming. 17:33:31 <ksf> the formula in frankfurt, for the lower horizontal lane from left to right is split, join, split, join, though. 17:38:12 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i528C38FD.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 17:38:19 <Samu> hias 17:39:45 <V453000> if you are trying to justify your broken game logic with a real-life road junction, good luck 17:40:17 <V453000> [yes split before join] 17:41:53 <ksf> it works because the join->split path actually only ever has crossing vehicles if they want to reverse. 17:42:56 <ksf> ...you could completely separate those lanes and end up with a pure split before join, at the expense of reversing. 17:43:38 <ksf> the question, here, is "is the rarest of rare cases worth the bother". 17:45:11 <V453000> why would you even let trains reverse in your junction 17:45:22 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r25323 /trunk/src/lang (hungarian.txt traditional_chinese.txt) (2013-06-06 17:45:14 UTC) 17:45:23 <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 17:45:24 <DorpsGek> traditional_chinese - 34 changes by siu238X 17:45:25 <DorpsGek> hungarian - 5 changes by Brumi 17:45:29 <Pinkbeast> Er, it sounds more like "are real-world motorway junctions a good guide to designing OTTD railway junctions" (to which the answer is "no") 17:45:33 <V453000> if they need to reverse there is something seriously wrong on your network 17:45:47 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD4E35.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 17:46:02 <Pinkbeast> Or, and I know what you're going to say, one has chased off after a depot oblivious to where that will take it next 17:46:13 <ksf> accidents can happen, especially when changing stuff. 17:46:43 <Pinkbeast> If you want to let trains reverse that can be done without futzing with complex junctions. 17:49:36 <ksf> you mean by futzing with equally complex reverse points? 17:50:13 <ksf> (that never get any kind of traffic) 17:50:39 <Pinkbeast> No; reversing can be done very simply if it is only to be used when mistakes happen, hence capacity not much of an issue. 17:51:13 <ksf> yes. and because capacity is not an issue, it can be done safely in a hub. 17:51:33 <ksf> ...even with join before split *for this case only*, as it's not going to jam anything. 17:52:23 <Pinkbeast> The junction you posted isn't join before split for this case only. (It's traffic crossing traffic for this case only). 17:54:19 <ksf> ...which implies join before split. 17:56:08 <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r25324 /trunk/bin/baseset (8 files) (2013-06-06 17:56:02 UTC) 17:56:09 <DorpsGek> -Update: the baseset translations 17:56:11 <Pinkbeast> It's also join before split for plenty of other cases. 17:56:46 <ksf> the vertical paths all support complete lane separation. 17:56:55 <Pinkbeast> X implies Y does not imply Y implies X; join before split does not imply traffic crossing traffic - trivially so when the mainline is one line each way 17:58:30 <ksf> ...note that you're not supposed to split off from the mainline and then later re-join the same one. 17:58:45 <Pinkbeast> On the face of it that junction looks like a classic example of what's wrong with join before split; extra capacity added in the junction to compensate. Trivial in this case; not so much in OTTD-land where a lane has quite a significant width. 17:59:56 <ksf> that's 4m per lane on the autobahn 18:00:58 <Pinkbeast> Er yes, and the junction is perhaps 800m across. An OTTD junction 200 tiles across might be felt to be unsatisfactory. 18:01:28 <ksf> well, it's only got three lanes. 18:01:53 <Pinkbeast> I have no idea what that's meant to convey. 18:02:07 <Pinkbeast> An OTTD lane is wider in relative terms than a real one. 18:02:39 <ksf> trains are generally relatively big in OTTD. 18:02:44 <ksf> ...and distances short. 18:03:02 <ksf> from the POV of the trains, at least. 18:03:02 <Samu> nerf trains 18:03:13 <Pinkbeast> ksf: I am well aware of these things, yes - so what? 18:03:57 <ksf> good question. 18:04:32 <Pinkbeast> The point is that on that thing, adding another pair of lanes parallel to the "mainline", or two, has essentially zero effect on junction size. 18:04:57 <Pinkbeast> Do that in the middle of an OTTD junction and it adds a significant amount to junction size. 18:05:52 <ksf> you have to bulid those lanes one way or the other. 18:06:10 <Samu> question, when starting a new company, could the color chosen be more random than it is? 18:06:17 <Pinkbeast> No, you don't! The whole point is that join before split demands extra capacity in the junction. 18:06:47 <Samu> it's not random enough :p 18:07:30 <ksf> if the intersection would join the cars coming from the lower left, driving upwards, early, then it'd have to have a separate lane for them. at the exact same place, just separate. 18:07:53 <ksf> the intersection is, to 99%, split before join when you make those dotted lines solid. 18:08:34 <ksf> ...the only thing where things, yes, cross, are the reversing cases. 18:08:43 <Pinkbeast> I think I am now sated with the thick field of incomprehension. Bye. 18:11:12 *** chester_ [~chester@95-24-38-242.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 18:21:30 <Samu> i have another little suggestion: when the game is paused, could the ***PAUSED*** text located at the news tooltip blink? 18:21:52 <Eddi|zuHause> that would be terrible 18:22:00 <Samu> :( 18:22:28 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-4d00880a.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 18:23:01 <Samu> sometimes my parents call for help with the game, only to find out the train wasn't starting because the game was paused 18:23:35 <Samu> spending half an hour investigating why it wouldn't start, turns out it's paused, :( 18:24:01 <Samu> me included 18:24:33 <blathijs> Eddi|zuHause: Why would that be terrible? 18:25:14 <Eddi|zuHause> i hate blinking stuff that distracts me from what i'm actually doing 18:27:51 <blathijs> Oh, I misread the request 18:28:17 <blathijs> I thought it was "Put ***PAUSED*** in news area", but it's already there 18:28:27 <blathijs> Blinking is probably not so cool, then :-) 18:29:44 *** alluke [~oftc-webi@cs181208223.pp.htv.fi] has joined #openttd 18:30:29 <Samu> if not blinking, then something visually obvious to catch attention 18:32:01 *** zooks [~zooks@vhe-540241.sshn.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:32:24 *** zooks [~zooks@vhe-540241.sshn.net] has joined #openttd 18:32:43 <alluke> openttdcoop welcome server is the first good openttdcoop serverive found 18:32:50 <Eddi|zuHause> every time you make something idiot-proof, someone invents a better idiot 18:32:54 <alluke> only the grfs suck 18:33:33 <Samu> im not hosting any game today alluke 18:33:36 <Samu> i'm testing AIs 18:33:46 <alluke> huh? 18:33:50 <alluke> i didnt even ask you to do so 18:34:06 <Samu> ok 18:34:32 <V453000> right lets ask why do the newgrfs suck alluke :) 18:34:59 <alluke> well not all 18:35:03 <alluke> but id swap some 18:36:02 <V453000> not to mention that they change there with every game, so your statement is quite fragile 18:36:11 <frosch123> "SetSet" <- awesome function name :) 18:36:19 <alluke> like dutch station set to dutch addition set 18:38:20 <V453000> sometimes they are there yes 18:38:42 <V453000> I dont think a station set is terribly vital to a newGRF setup though 18:40:38 <alluke> its just eyecandy 18:42:03 <V453000> exactly 18:43:06 <V453000> therefore I am still waiting for a reason why the newGRF setup sucks :) 18:44:45 *** Chrill [~chrischri@c83-253-84-230.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #openttd 18:44:54 <alluke> it doesnt really suck 18:45:03 <alluke> but id add more trainsets 18:45:11 <alluke> variety is fun 18:45:42 <V453000> I dont think the current train set there has anything missing 18:46:04 <V453000> multiple train sets are an option with bad train sets which have holes 18:46:17 <V453000> like ukrs2, nars2, tropic refurbishment set, somewhat japanese train set 18:46:43 <alluke> i didnt mean mixed sets 18:47:14 <alluke> but you could have one complete train from db set and another one from fts 18:47:16 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 18:47:30 <V453000> what? 18:48:32 <alluke> forget 18:49:19 <V453000> no, wtf did you mean by that 18:49:22 <V453000> one complete train from 2 sets 18:49:29 <V453000> without mixing two sets in one game 18:49:53 <alluke> no 18:49:59 <alluke> the exact opposite 18:50:08 <alluke> complete train from one set 18:50:16 *** ntoskrnl [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:50:28 <V453000> what is a complete train? 18:50:38 <alluke> loco and coaches from same set 18:50:56 <frosch123> V453000: wheels and an engine? 18:51:05 *** alluke [~oftc-webi@cs181208223.pp.htv.fi] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:51:10 <V453000> right, every train set has that 18:51:18 *** alluke [~oftc-webi@cs181208223.pp.htv.fi] has joined #openttd 18:51:19 <V453000> so why do you suggest to add more train sets 18:51:20 <alluke> ppås 18:51:22 <alluke> oops 18:51:29 <alluke> more to choose 18:52:03 <V453000> one of them is usually better to choose 18:52:04 <V453000> so not really 18:53:16 <V453000> and/or they have different speeds etc, so you in the end use only one of them anyway 18:53:39 <alluke> some sets have better passenger stuff and some have better freight stuff 18:53:58 <V453000> which part is NUTS missing 18:54:05 *** Alberth [~hat3@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 18:54:08 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 18:54:29 <alluke> i dont know 18:54:38 <alluke> im talking about the current welcome server game 18:54:46 <alluke> i never use nuts anyway 18:55:06 <V453000> and in the current welcome server game is nuts afaik 18:55:11 <alluke> nope 18:55:17 <alluke> theres temperate game with polish set 18:55:18 <V453000> oh, new game 18:55:24 <V453000> oh fucking christ 18:55:30 <alluke> the previous toyland was rubbish 18:55:43 <alluke> purple company is mine :P 18:56:18 *** Pol [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:00:00 *** zooks [~zooks@vhe-540241.sshn.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:02:27 <Samu> the best AI for today's testing is currently: WrightAI 19:02:30 *** snorre_ [~snorre@c3D04BF51.dhcp.as2116.net] has joined #openttd 19:02:58 *** zooks [~zooks@vhe-540241.sshn.net] has joined #openttd 19:03:38 <Samu> PathZilla vs WrightAI vs Rythorn Airline AI - each one soloing 19:04:15 *** snorre [~snorre@c3D04BF51.dhcp.as2116.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:05:51 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d108-180-70-43.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 19:05:58 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:06:40 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 19:13:17 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has quit [Quit: leaving] 19:23:58 <Samu> i'm bored of life, listening to this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4SiuPvd4Mw 19:25:16 <V453000> good that will kill you soon 19:27:42 *** zooks [~zooks@vhe-540241.sshn.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:44:29 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 19:50:51 <Samu> hmm :9 19:59:24 <frosch123> who keeps emptying my coffee mug? 20:00:04 <Rubidium> frosch123: it's not me 20:09:42 * Alberth is drinking tea currently 20:10:04 <Eddi|zuHause> must be snow white 20:10:30 <Eddi|zuHause> "wer hat aus meinem Becherchen getrunken"? 20:11:23 <Rubidium> oh... *that* snow white 20:11:44 <V453000> methanol? 20:18:10 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@89.137.75.224] has quit [] 20:22:53 <Samu> here's something I did with trains, i was very bored that day 20:22:55 <Samu> https://skydrive.live.com/?cid=23b29f3de45f6f1f#cid=23B29F3DE45F6F1F&id=23B29F3DE45F6F1F%21473 20:23:07 <Samu> https://rupavq.dm1.livefilestore.com/y2pqVucGiVHyACa2t7ymf43H6P388flewPDWBPH11zIqN6_fqm0EO61XCLYPaykvpL-u3d5pwk_A2RNYtbJ93HbdLoegTnNCIff2rvjIhUpdF4/Unnamed%2C%202068-11-22.png?psid=1 20:23:13 <Samu> sorry, 2nd link 20:23:52 <Eddi|zuHause> i should just ban all microsoft sites, they never load 20:24:02 <alluke> whats that? 20:24:27 <alluke> huge mess 20:24:50 <Samu> it works, until I found out I could only put 15 trains there 20:25:13 <Samu> decided to investigate and came up with all those signs 20:25:16 <Samu> :( 20:25:53 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-92-1.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 20:25:55 <perk11> why do you use two-way tracks? 20:26:17 <perk11> 3 tracks one way and 3 tracks other way would work with any amount of trains 20:26:30 <perk11> untill all th tracks are full 20:27:16 <Rubidium> http://rbijker.net/openttd/more_efficient.png (the three steel trains) 20:27:57 <Rubidium> you get pretty creative when there are AIs around making messy "obstacles" 20:30:17 <glx> too much invisible stuff 20:30:22 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 20:30:45 <frosch123> i assume the steel trains are from the ai :) 20:31:04 <Rubidium> nope, they're mine 20:31:48 <alluke> lol do you call that a steel train 20:31:50 <V453000> XD 20:31:54 <alluke> this is one 20:31:55 <alluke> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1004368/stalin.png 20:32:03 <alluke> carries 638 tons 20:32:26 <Rubidium> alluke: it carries 404 at most 20:32:31 <alluke> nope 20:32:33 <V453000> more or less 20:32:36 <perk11> :D 20:32:43 <alluke> wow 20:32:45 <alluke> 404 indeed 20:33:04 <alluke> looks like its still syncing 20:33:16 <Rubidium> longer trains don't work, since the lower station is at maximum length 20:33:22 <alluke> either db or my inter net is fucked up 20:34:01 <Rubidium> and the three trains are timed in such a manner that they do not interfere with eachother, but that needs the third track 20:34:13 <alluke> that train is 7 tiles 20:35:31 <frosch123> hmm, the stations signs should have given me a hint earlier :s 20:35:36 <alluke> now 20:35:40 <alluke> the link works 20:35:43 <alluke> take a look 20:36:04 <V453000> wow you managed to construct a train with higher capacity 20:36:12 <perk11> alluke: and why is it called "Stalin"? 20:36:13 <V453000> teach us 20:36:15 <frosch123> lol what? 20:36:25 <alluke> because it means steel 20:36:25 <frosch123> i expected a rl photo... 20:36:41 <perk11> it means Stalin 20:36:52 <alluke> stalin = steel 20:36:55 <alluke> in russian 20:36:58 <perk11> and there was a train called Iosif Stalin 20:37:04 <frosch123> is the joke that the train is very old, so it is scrap metal by itself? 20:38:13 <frosch123> yeah, old trains carrying steel can almost achieve 100% payload 20:38:34 <alluke> and dont require unloading 20:38:38 *** perk11 [~perk11@broadband-46-242-13-101.nationalcablenetworks.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:38:43 <frosch123> you can drive the whole train directly into the furnace 20:39:14 <frosch123> maybe some wagons could also be loaded with coal 20:39:17 *** perk11 [~perk11@broadband-46-242-13-101.nationalcablenetworks.ru] has joined #openttd 20:39:36 <alluke> super efficient 20:39:42 <alluke> the driver just needs to jump out 20:40:45 <perk11> alluke: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_locomotive_class_IS this trains was called after Stalin, and it doesn't mean steel in Russian 20:41:12 <perk11> so when I saw the link I thought you have it in openttd :) 20:41:44 <alluke> right 20:41:55 <alluke> google translate says that stal means steel 20:42:02 <alluke> i guess stalin means made of steel 20:42:31 <perk11> no it doesn't mean anything, except the name 20:42:53 <perk11> Google Translate is pretty bad with russian translation 20:43:27 <perk11> the word for steel is stal :) 20:43:33 <alluke> yes 20:48:59 <frosch123> night 20:49:01 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-4d00880a.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:50:55 *** chester_ [~chester@95-24-38-242.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:01:01 *** ZxBiohazardZx [~IceChat77@5ED05D6D.cm-7-1b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 21:01:32 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 21:02:03 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:03:25 *** ZxBiohazardZx [~IceChat77@5ED05D6D.cm-7-1b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [] 21:03:40 *** Alberth [~hat3@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 21:09:02 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:11:01 *** DarkAce-Z is now known as DarkAceZ 21:22:09 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@189.106.112.87.dyn.plus.net] has joined #openttd 21:22:22 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 21:45:29 <alluke> why the fuck is itunes 390 mb????? 21:45:34 <alluke> its just a music player 21:46:27 <glx> no it's a store too 21:46:39 <alluke> ok its not 390 mb xD 21:46:45 <alluke> that included security update 21:48:15 *** SineTheCreator [~darked@cpe-174-096-023-200.carolina.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.1] 21:51:47 *** SineTheCreator [~darked@cpe-174-096-023-200.carolina.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 22:03:51 *** DarkAce-Z [~BillyMays@50.107.53.195] has joined #openttd 22:04:20 <Samu> buff amd or they go rip 22:04:47 *** DarkAceZ [~BillyMays@50.107.53.195] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:05:16 *** Ristovski [~rafael@78.157.7.34] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:14:40 <Eddi|zuHause> who the what now? 22:16:03 <V453000> yes 22:17:05 *** Alice3 [~Alice@cpc18-grim14-2-0-cust478.12-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [] 22:19:51 *** flaa [~flaa@89.100.79.103] has joined #openttd 22:25:27 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6DA86.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:26:38 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i528C38FD.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: http://bit.ly/nkczDT] 22:30:47 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:30:59 *** Progman [~progman@p57A18389.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:35:16 *** Samu [~oftc-webi@100.26.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:42:33 *** Djohaal [~Djohaal@177.132.109.230] has joined #openttd 23:01:43 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:02:37 *** Markk [~mark@rikskriminalpolisen.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:05:40 *** DarkAce-Z [~BillyMays@50.107.53.195] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:08:50 *** Markk [~mark@rikskriminalpolisen.com] has joined #openttd 23:08:57 *** Markk [~mark@rikskriminalpolisen.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:13:56 *** Markk [~mark@rikskriminalpolisen.com] has joined #openttd 23:20:53 *** DarkAce-Z [~BillyMays@50.107.53.195] has joined #openttd 23:24:40 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has quit [] 23:38:31 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:41:13 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 23:43:40 *** alluke [~oftc-webi@cs181208223.pp.htv.fi] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:49:28 *** HellTiger [~HellTiger@43-54.61-188.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 23:49:59 *** flaa [~flaa@89.100.79.103] has quit [Quit: leaving]