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00:37:31 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-072-120.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit [] 00:54:22 *** HellTiger [~HellTiger@43-54.61-188.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 01:01:40 *** glx [glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Bye !] 01:02:55 *** roadt_ [~roadt@223.240.104.88] has joined #openttd 01:07:13 *** roboboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 01:26:06 *** ST2 [~ST2@bl6-252-243.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 01:31:03 *** xT2 [~ST2@bl20-224-108.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:31:03 *** ST2 is now known as xT2 01:52:39 *** roboboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:11:13 *** wakou2 [~stephen@host86-141-135-138.range86-141.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 02:18:32 *** Djohaal_ [~Djohaal@177.43.128.187] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:49:40 *** permagreen [~donovan@204.195.27.175] has joined #openttd 02:50:30 *** gombee_ [~gombee@00019f9f.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 02:55:00 *** gombee [~gombee@00019f9f.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:40:07 *** roadt_ [~roadt@223.240.104.88] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:31:04 <Samu> I'm off to bed - 4th day in a row without midi problems 04:31:09 <Samu> bye 04:31:11 *** Samu [~oftc-webi@39.243.189.46.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:56:01 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD42AA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 05:04:55 <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r25392 trunk/bin/ai/regression/regression.txt (2013-06-11 05:04:49 UTC) 05:04:56 <DorpsGek> -Fix (r25390): update regression to account for the compatability settings 05:31:13 *** Elukka [~Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:33:35 *** HellTiger [~HellTiger@43-54.61-188.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #openttd 05:48:44 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-213-220-193-253.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 05:51:00 *** permagreen [~donovan@204.195.27.175] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:58:15 *** gombee_ [~gombee@00019f9f.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:04:06 *** snorre [~snorre@c3D04BF51.dhcp.as2116.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 06:08:07 *** snorre [~snorre@c3D04BF51.dhcp.as2116.net] has joined #openttd 06:13:24 <Supercheese> Guess there's no chance of a YACD-esque option if cargodist has now hit trunk 06:14:17 <planetmaker> that guess is supposedly wrong. But it is more difficult 06:15:28 *** gombee_ [~gombee@00019f9f.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 06:27:37 *** Pecio [~fgh@abzs140.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 06:28:28 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@189.106.112.87.dyn.plus.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 06:31:54 <peter1138> Supercheese, realistically, nobody was working on YACD anyway 06:32:09 <Supercheese> Yeah, that's true 06:32:21 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-144-129.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 06:34:08 <peter1138> And also, we now have more active developers \o/ 06:34:51 *** supermop [~daniel_er@cpe-66-108-51-234.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: supermop] 06:37:36 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 06:41:55 *** Pecio [~fgh@abzs140.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has left #openttd [] 06:52:11 *** KenjiE20 [kenjie20@2001:470:dc50:b0::21] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:53:33 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 06:56:42 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@89.137.75.224] has joined #openttd 06:59:39 *** snorre_ [~snorre@c3D04BF51.dhcp.as2116.net] has joined #openttd 07:01:25 *** snorre [~snorre@c3D04BF51.dhcp.as2116.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:12:51 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has joined #openttd 07:14:55 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-213-220-193-253.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 07:23:17 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:26:30 <Supercheese> Go to fishing grounds (autorefit to fish), go to fishing harbor (autorefit to food), go to city docks (autorefit to passengers) 07:27:07 <Supercheese> it's funniest to do with the paddle steamer ocean liners 07:29:34 <Supercheese> I always imagine the staterooms being hastily converted to bulk fish storage and back again 07:33:10 *** ZxBiohazardZx [~IceChat77@5ED05D6D.cm-7-1b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 07:45:40 *** pugi [~pugi@dyndsl-091-096-002-118.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 07:47:04 *** snorre [~snorre@c3D04BF51.dhcp.as2116.net] has joined #openttd 07:48:26 *** snorre_ [~snorre@c3D04BF51.dhcp.as2116.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 07:53:05 *** smoovi [~smoovi@e178221135.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 08:05:43 <planetmaker> fish simply is stacked in fish boxes... :-) 08:06:31 <Supercheese> 'night 08:06:44 *** Supercheese [~Password4@98.145.153.126] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 21.0/20130511120803]] 08:18:50 *** zooks [~zooks@vhe-540241.sshn.net] has joined #openttd 08:49:28 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d108-180-70-43.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Quit: DDR is not Dance Dance Revolution.] 08:52:53 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:54:16 *** SpComb^_ [terom@zapotek.paivola.fi] has joined #openttd 08:55:47 *** SpComb [terom@zapotek.paivola.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:02:22 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-213-220-193-253.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 09:04:48 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:04:53 *** Midnightmyth [~quassel@93-167-84-102-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has joined #openttd 09:05:28 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 09:11:58 *** Mazur [~mazur@546984B2.cm-12-2c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:12:27 *** Mazur [~mazur@546984B2.cm-12-2c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 09:17:43 *** Alice3 [~Alice@cpc18-grim14-2-0-cust478.12-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 09:21:48 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD4046.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 09:29:07 *** snorre [~snorre@c3D04BF51.dhcp.as2116.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:33:21 *** zxbiohazardzx_ [~IceChat77@5ED05D6D.cm-7-1b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 09:35:37 *** ZxBiohazardZx [~IceChat77@5ED05D6D.cm-7-1b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:45:13 *** roboboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 09:48:22 *** zxbiohazardzx_ [~IceChat77@5ED05D6D.cm-7-1b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Quit: Easy as 3.14159265358979323846... ] 09:48:34 *** ZxBiohazardZx [~IceChat77@5ED05D6D.cm-7-1b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 10:06:25 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 10:07:48 *** zooks [~zooks@vhe-540241.sshn.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:12:40 *** snorre [~snorre@c3D04BF51.dhcp.as2116.net] has joined #openttd 10:18:52 *** zooks [~zooks@vhe-540241.sshn.net] has joined #openttd 10:27:28 *** KenjiE20 [kenjie20@2001:470:dc50:b0::21] has joined #openttd 10:38:33 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:39:18 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 10:51:02 *** Mucht [~Martin@000128e2.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 10:58:02 *** snorre_ [~snorre@c3D04BF51.dhcp.as2116.net] has joined #openttd 10:59:58 *** snorre [~snorre@c3D04BF51.dhcp.as2116.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:03:17 *** roboboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:17:37 *** snorre_ [~snorre@c3D04BF51.dhcp.as2116.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 11:20:27 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@89.137.75.224] has quit [] 11:29:27 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:34:24 *** Mucht [~Martin@000128e2.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:37:29 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 11:39:27 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:43:40 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 11:52:02 *** snorre [~snorre@c3D04BF51.dhcp.as2116.net] has joined #openttd 11:59:57 <peter1138> hmm, i can't get awk regexp NOT matching to work :S 12:00:30 <peter1138> and as i say that, i figure it out lol 12:07:01 *** roboboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 12:10:57 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-213-220-193-253.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! 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18:23:16 * NGC3982 likes ice cream. 18:23:50 <Rubidium> sounds like: mouse in window -> no tile selected -> no cargoes -> reduce window size -> mouse outside of window -> tile selected -> cargoes -> increase window size -> backup to step #1 18:24:07 <DorpsGek> Commit by frosch :: r25394 /trunk/src (build_vehicle_gui.cpp command.cpp) (2013-06-11 18:24:01 UTC) 18:24:08 <DorpsGek> -Fix: Restrict renaming engines to the server, just like renaming towns. 18:24:30 <planetmaker> you'll make one person very unhappy, frosch123 ;-) 18:24:30 <Rubidium> easy-ish solution would be not reducing the window size 18:25:11 <frosch123> planetmaker: i love the temporal closeness of those two forum threads :) 18:25:36 <planetmaker> :-) 18:26:53 <ntoskrnl> frosch123: oszilating -> oscillating 18:27:38 <ntoskrnl> also, "making window biggers", and also unclosed parenthesis 18:36:32 <DorpsGek> Commit by frosch :: r25395 /trunk/src (4 files) (2013-06-11 18:36:26 UTC) 18:36:33 <DorpsGek> -Fix [FS#5596]: The size of station construction windows could oscillate when resizing the window moved the mouse into the window. 18:36:51 <frosch123> i had a hard time to not make the same typo again 18:36:58 <frosch123> i hope i made at least a different one :) 18:44:06 <zooks> that was a quick fix for fs#5596! I submitted that only an hour ago :) 18:44:28 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@dslb-188-102-147-004.pools.arcor-ip.net] has left #openttd [Konversation terminated!] 18:44:52 <frosch123> it was a fun bug :) 18:45:04 <zooks> hard to describe though 18:45:38 <planetmaker> though I was like "what?!" when I read it, the description was quite good 18:47:03 <zooks> Im still crashing constantly on fs#5567, I see there's a fix posted there as well. I'll try that.. 18:48:04 *** mode/#openttd [+o orudge] by ChanServ 18:48:04 *** mode/#openttd [+v Belugas] by ChanServ 18:48:07 *** mode/#openttd [+v peter1138] by ChanServ 18:51:26 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 18:51:39 *** ntoskrnl [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:00:19 <Eddi|zuHause> so, when will r25394 cause a thread like "i used to be able to rename vehicles, enable that again" 19:02:28 <V453000> wtf you cant rename vehicles anymore? :d 19:02:54 <Eddi|zuHause> well, you can, if you are the server :p 19:02:57 <ZxBiohazardZx> is it possible to sort industries by type AND production? 19:03:09 <ZxBiohazardZx> (i see option for type and for production, but no AND :P) 19:03:43 <V453000> you give too much shit about production 19:04:03 <frosch123> Eddi|zuHause: you can still rename vehicles :p 19:04:07 <frosch123> just not engines 19:08:50 <peter1138> finally 19:08:57 <peter1138> i always wondered about fixing that... 19:09:24 <frosch123> did you wonder about pondering, or ponder about wondering? 19:13:01 <V453000> @stage building 19:13:04 <V453000> .. 19:13:45 <frosch123> where is the right place to suggest the german government to follow greece's great example and disband public broadcasting? 19:14:16 <planetmaker> epetitions.org 19:15:57 <planetmaker> ah... epetitionen.bundestag.de of course :-) 19:17:48 <V453000> cargodist game on publicserver ... if anyone was interested 19:18:05 <Eddi|zuHause> that's probably the wrong place, because public broadcasting is "LÀndersache" 19:20:19 <Eddi|zuHause> i would have assumed cargodist is "bad" :p 19:20:37 <planetmaker> no, you wouldn't :-P 19:21:16 <frosch123> Eddi|zuHause: maybe he takes a unicorn to ride to the prozone 19:21:53 <Eddi|zuHause> i mean, if i like something, V453000 must automatically hate it :p 19:21:58 <V453000> it is Eddi :) 19:22:20 <Rubidium> so no V453000 at the party? 19:23:01 <V453000> I will be at the next party :) I will let them figure out what is going on for now, plus I have my own playground now 19:23:26 <planetmaker> V453000, we plan to have it somewhen in July or August weekends. Same place as before 19:23:38 <V453000> oh that party 19:23:46 <planetmaker> I meant to post... but I need to figure out which of the August weekends I have time 19:24:03 <planetmaker> that party, yes :-P 19:24:36 <V453000> ooh :) 19:25:03 <V453000> what is that, r25383 party? :D 19:25:15 <planetmaker> something like that ;-) 19:26:40 <frosch123> https://www.google.com/search?q=einhorn+kuchen&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=03m3UeePO8ObtQb3r4CYAQ&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAQ&biw=1225&bih=905 <- which one to bake? 19:26:55 <planetmaker> :-O !!! 19:27:12 <V453000> XD 19:27:21 <V453000> fuck 19:27:22 <planetmaker> in order to create some you definitely have to be in harmony with your feminine side 19:28:40 <Rubidium> V453000: no, it's all about 4k 19:28:57 <V453000> I wonder what that means 19:29:16 <Rubidium> it's, ofcourse, the number of strings 19:29:21 <Rubidium> (per language) 19:29:56 <V453000> :d 19:31:15 <planetmaker> hehe... currently is a good test how often translators check :-) 19:31:22 <planetmaker> not many 100% languages 19:31:42 *** gombee_ [~gombee@00019f9f.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:32:10 <planetmaker> even __ln__ is slacking 19:32:58 <planetmaker> and Terkhen could also translate the missing two :-) 19:33:19 <planetmaker> and Swedish misses 21... 19:34:02 <fonsinchen> yeah, unicorn cake. I'll bring one. 19:34:09 <planetmaker> :-) 19:34:29 <planetmaker> not difficult to make a more impressive cake than I fabricated last time 19:34:52 <Eddi|zuHause> fonsinchen: poor alonso! 19:35:24 <planetmaker> :-) 19:35:24 *** gombee_ [~gombee@00019f9f.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 19:35:35 <planetmaker> luckily not a unicorn as the picture shows 19:35:58 <fonsinchen> I'll steal one from nethack. 19:36:28 <fonsinchen> Everyone will get teleportitis then. 19:37:04 <Terkhen> planetmaker: thanks for the reminder :) 19:37:37 <planetmaker> :-) 19:44:00 *** snorre_ [~snorre@c3D04BF51.dhcp.as2116.net] has joined #openttd 19:44:10 <V453000> cargodistQ: if you dont provide any other path than A->drop, industry A will never want other drop? 19:44:37 <fonsinchen> true 19:45:07 <Rubidium> V453000: true, *if* you use a no-load order at the drop 19:45:27 <V453000> hm 19:45:47 <V453000> so in a cargo game why would I use cargodist even when it is on? :d 19:45:48 <Rubidium> otherwise stuff might go somewhere else, but only if there is a route from drop to another drop 19:45:50 *** snorre [~snorre@c3D04BF51.dhcp.as2116.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:46:05 <fonsinchen> How would a loading order make it select an unreachable destination? 19:46:11 <Eddi|zuHause> V453000: it makes feeder services and load balancing easier 19:46:49 <V453000> but even feeder->A->drop wont X want drop Y ? 19:46:55 <__ln__> whatwhat, i'm not involved with ottd translations since about 2007. 19:47:18 <frosch123> __ln__: see, that's what we complained about 19:47:19 <fonsinchen> Where is X and where is Y? 19:47:32 <V453000> doesnt matter, somewhere on the network 19:47:37 <V453000> trains only go to X with unload and leave empty now 19:47:42 <Rubidium> V453000: no, cargo is distributed to the reachable stations instead of cargodest where cargo is given a destination 19:48:28 *** Progman [~progman@p57A19B1F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 19:48:29 <V453000> so it basically only applies when I drop cargo at multiple places from multiple places 19:48:39 <Eddi|zuHause> maybe that can be implemented on top of cargodist? 19:49:35 <V453000> well this is strange 19:50:10 <Eddi|zuHause> V453000: if you have routes A->X, A->Y and B->Y, and you forget the "no load" orders, it may route stuff B->Y->A->X 19:50:22 <V453000> I know that 19:50:25 <V453000> but why would I do that :d 19:50:42 <V453000> that is really an error 19:50:45 <fonsinchen> To use your trains on the return trip. 19:50:53 <Eddi|zuHause> industries which have a stockpile limit? 19:50:55 <V453000> as cargo would just get transported there and back when the route could be direct 19:50:56 <fonsinchen> Instead of letting them go empty. 19:51:38 <V453000> stockpile limits are wtf 19:51:44 <V453000> but ok that is an option 19:52:06 <V453000> any other? .s 19:52:12 *** zooks [~zooks@vhe-540241.sshn.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:54:49 *** ZxBiohazardZx [~IceChat77@5ED05D6D.cm-7-1b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Quit: Clap on! , Clap off! Clap@#&$NO CARRIER] 19:55:15 <fonsinchen> If you don't want cargo to be distributed automatically you can always switch cargodist off for the respective cargo. 19:56:00 <Eddi|zuHause> in FIRS, you may need to serve one source to multiple destinations, because of the output multiplication effects 19:56:13 <V453000> well obviously, I just want to discover by what reasoning should it be used in a normal game 19:56:30 <V453000> mhm yeah it makes FIRS stupidly easy :s 19:56:36 <fonsinchen> If you do want it to be distributed automatically then you have to tolerate things like that. How should it know if you intentionally created that route, e.g. to reuse your trains on the return trip or if it was a mistake? 19:56:49 <Eddi|zuHause> no, it does not, you still have to care about delivery timing :) 19:57:14 <frosch123> do newer svn also produce -p1 patches? 19:57:18 <fonsinchen> A prime example for cargodist is a passenger network. 19:57:25 <V453000> timing is rather easy :P 19:57:39 <fonsinchen> In a lot of cargo games it probably doesn't make much sense. 19:57:57 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, passengers/mail was always the primary inspiration 19:58:24 <V453000> fonsinchen: I mean, I have coal mine 1,2,3 going to power plant A. I also have coal mines 4,5,6 going to power plant B. Directly, without anything else, with unload and leave empty orders. Why should I add 1,2 or 3 going to B 19:58:34 <V453000> hm 19:59:14 <fonsinchen> Coal is probably not so well suited for automatic distribution then. 19:59:27 <V453000> same for any other cargo 19:59:37 <V453000> except passengers or mail as you noted 19:59:44 <fonsinchen> However, depending on the geography A could be a good "in between" stop on the way to B. 20:00:06 <fonsinchen> Then you could run a train from A to B to make more money from the same coal by transporting it further. 20:00:09 <V453000> no, my trains only go directly and with non-stop 20:00:24 <Eddi|zuHause> V453000: food/water 20:00:26 <V453000> lets consider that irrelevant 20:00:42 <V453000> hm 20:00:46 <fonsinchen> My example is not irrelevant. I've done that a lot. 20:01:06 <Eddi|zuHause> V453000: generally, if the amount of destinations is significantly larger than the amount of sources 20:01:07 <V453000> well that is the same principle as other cargoes Eddi 20:01:17 <fonsinchen> Just look at the map and figure out multi-hop routes instead of just direct ones. 20:01:50 <V453000> well in other words why would I even get power plant B 20:01:54 <fonsinchen> But I agree, with passengers the advantages are easier to see. 20:01:54 <V453000> why not just keep all going to A 20:01:58 <V453000> same for town A eating all food 20:02:08 <Eddi|zuHause> V453000: or having a main line with "mixed" (autorefit) trains, and lots of feeder services 20:02:22 <V453000> autorefit doesnt exist 20:02:32 <fonsinchen> Well, isn't the game about aesthetics, after all. 20:02:36 <Eddi|zuHause> V453000: you want many towns to grow, so all of them require food 20:02:49 <fonsinchen> It's just much nicer to have it deliver half the coal to A and then take the rest to B. 20:02:52 <V453000> well thats true 20:02:59 <fonsinchen> (in my opinion, that is) 20:03:16 <V453000> sure fonsinchen, but then you can easily subsitute coal B for all wod 20:03:17 <V453000> wood 20:03:52 <V453000> and you can do coal to both A and B without cargodist easier/more conveniently too 20:04:07 <V453000> true, without transfers only 20:04:09 <V453000> +- 20:04:28 <Eddi|zuHause> V453000: also, two-way transfers like a bank in the town 20:04:54 <V453000> yes, well, like any other drop/pickup cargo as pass/mail/valu 20:05:32 <Eddi|zuHause> V453000: there certainly are playing styles where cargodist has no significant use/effect 20:06:25 <V453000> for passenger games it is interesting, I said and say that I dislike to be told where what goes, but it does have significant additions there 20:06:33 <V453000> for cargo I completely miss any effect 20:07:08 <Eddi|zuHause> sure, when you ignore everything i said, then it has no effect at all 20:07:27 <V453000> I didnt ignore it, it just has no advantage why to do that 20:07:55 <Eddi|zuHause> just because you don't see it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist 20:08:17 <V453000> autorefit really isnt relevant, that only makes all cargoes be one 20:08:23 <V453000> nothing else 20:10:00 <V453000> two-way transfering makes some sense though 20:10:30 <V453000> but requires substituting train junctions for stations 20:12:47 <V453000> symmetric will keep the same distribution over time, right? 20:21:44 <fonsinchen> Symmetric is about sending the same amount of cargo both ways. It makes no sense for cargo. 20:22:06 <fonsinchen> Only passengers, mail and in some cases valuables should be distributed symmetrically 20:23:58 <V453000> hm what am I missing, why doesnt it make sense for cargo? 20:24:17 <Samu> i just saw an helicopter and an aircraft going through each other on a commuter 20:24:20 <V453000> ... do I understand it wrongly that every power plant would get equal amount of coal? 20:27:59 <frosch123> night 20:28:02 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-4d00bdb3.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: quak] 20:28:07 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i5387A120.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: http://bit.ly/nkczDT] 20:30:38 <Terkhen> good night 20:32:09 *** MNIM [~mBuntu@ip5452ffad.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has joined #openttd 20:32:10 *** MINM [~mBuntu@ip5452ffad.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has joined #openttd 20:32:21 *** MNIM [~mBuntu@ip5452ffad.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has quit [] 20:59:38 *** flaa [~flaa@89.100.79.103] has quit [Quit: leaving] 21:07:39 *** Brumi [~quassel@78-131-41-191.pool.hdsnet.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:08:30 <Samu> oh, I was on TV 21:08:33 <Samu> https://rupavq.dm1.livefilestore.com/y2piDItskChKBenCo-7PJf08EBTX-NbJ_inO7_UEVB3bamO24Y_Wy7G-rRN-asLKJnff0nWTp_wRzdv5LcEBR17TtI8TNgUvkn_5z-hftbAwlk/Tycoon%20of%20the%20Century.png?psid=1 21:08:51 <Samu> that's a TV isn't it? 21:09:03 <Eddi|zuHause> that's a blank page 21:09:18 <Samu> :) 21:09:36 <Samu> imgur.com 21:10:46 <Samu> gah... imgur.com puts a c:\fakepath 21:19:37 *** SpComb^_ is now known as SpComb 21:22:15 *** KritiK [~Maxim@0001264a.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 21:30:22 <Samu> http://imgur.com/frPDXQe 21:30:46 <Samu> uploaded from skydrive 21:30:52 <Samu> to imgur 21:30:56 <Samu> lol feature 21:33:47 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:43:00 *** ZxBiohazardZx [~IceChat77@5ED05D6D.cm-7-1b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 21:46:55 <glx> the string seems totally broken 21:47:37 <glx> acceptance change instead company or manager name 21:55:58 <Samu> no, that's my company name 21:56:12 *** Brumi [~quassel@78-131-41-191.pool.hdsnet.hu] has joined #openttd 21:57:18 <glx> silly 21:58:15 <Samu> :( 21:58:45 <Samu> http://www.amd.com/us/press-releases/Pages/amd-unleashes-2013jun11.aspx 21:59:10 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 21:59:44 <Samu> FX at 5 GHz... k, meanwhile Intel might announce the first 8-core cpu of theirs for lga 2011, hmmm :( 21:59:56 *** Brumi_ [~quassel@78-131-41-191.pool.hdsnet.hu] has joined #openttd 22:00:16 <glx> nice they broke the naming 22:00:31 <glx> FX-9xxx for an 8 cores cpu 22:01:56 *** snorre [~snorre@c3D04BF51.dhcp.as2116.net] has joined #openttd 22:03:26 <Samu> Core i7-3980X 22:03:44 *** snorre_ [~snorre@c3D04BF51.dhcp.as2116.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:04:10 *** xQR [xor@the.x-base.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:04:10 *** Yexo [~Yexo@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:04:21 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@89.137.75.224] has quit [] 22:04:26 *** Yexo [~Yexo@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 22:04:32 *** xQR [xor@the.x-base.org] has joined #openttd 22:04:44 *** orudge` [~orudge@owenrudge.net] has joined #openttd 22:05:21 *** apiecux_ [~apiecux@ui89-892t.21z4-ee.ldti.srv.parano.me] has joined #openttd 22:06:20 *** Ammler [~ammler@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:06:24 *** Ammler [~ammler@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 22:06:31 *** apiecux [~apiecux@ui89-892t.21z4-ee.ldti.srv.parano.me] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:06:37 *** orudge [~orudge@000128f1.user.oftc.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:07:20 *** Brumi [~quassel@78-131-41-191.pool.hdsnet.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:08:56 <Samu> more tech stuff i like - Radeon HD 8000 or 9000 - one of them will integrate x86 cores on them, that was nVidias plan with Maxwell 22:11:22 <Samu> probably ARM for nvidia 22:26:10 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:27:43 *** __20h__ [~some_one@r-36.net] has joined #openttd 22:27:48 *** apiecux [~apiecux@ui89-892t.21z4-ee.ldti.srv.parano.me] has joined #openttd 22:28:05 *** __20h___ [~some_one@r-36.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:29:21 *** apiecux_ [~apiecux@ui89-892t.21z4-ee.ldti.srv.parano.me] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:29:30 *** Ammler [~ammler@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:29:33 *** Ammler [~ammler@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 22:34:32 *** Alice3 [~Alice@cpc18-grim14-2-0-cust478.12-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [] 22:35:00 <Samu> can I use Timetable to inform me about the time it took to complete a journey but not impose delays? 22:36:41 <Samu> autofill but do not put 'wait for x days', 'travel for x days' on the orders? 22:41:46 *** Progman [~progman@p57A19B1F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:42:57 <Eddi|zuHause> IMHO it should do that automatically... 22:49:23 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 22:54:42 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:55:14 <Samu> i am trying to get the best distance between 2 airports with infrastructure costs turned on 22:55:28 <Samu> best distance = best profit 22:55:40 <Eddi|zuHause> good luck with that 22:55:45 <Samu> :o 22:55:48 <Samu> like AIs do 22:56:11 <Eddi|zuHause> of course it depends on the plane 22:56:29 <Samu> bakewell cotswald lb-3 22:57:54 <Eddi|zuHause> and how much time they spend in the waiting loop 22:58:55 <Samu> max profit a year versus max income each go 22:59:01 <Samu> what is preferible? 22:59:31 <Eddi|zuHause> and i suspect it's the same as without infrastructure costs, just there's a minimum distance where it gets unprofitable 23:00:20 <Eddi|zuHause> profit per year, obviously 23:02:40 <Samu> some players have 23:03:01 <Samu> a station in 1 corner of the map, and the other one at the opposite corner 23:03:39 <Samu> they don't profit for more than a year, but when they do, they win major!! 23:04:58 <Samu> then they just make copies of the same 23:05:11 <Samu> "pros!" 23:10:35 <Samu> is there a cargo calculator somewhere? an excel file? a web site? 23:13:07 <Samu> http://wiki.openttd.org/Game_mechanics#Delivery_payment_rates 23:15:47 <Samu> http://wiki.openttd.org/Cargo_income 23:17:30 *** Brumi_ [~quassel@78-131-41-191.pool.hdsnet.hu] has quit [] 23:26:41 <Samu> i'm even more confused, why did i look at this :p 23:28:02 <Eddi|zuHause> use the canonical documentation 23:28:11 <Eddi|zuHause> ... lukw 23:28:15 <Eddi|zuHause> ... luke 23:30:20 <Samu> canonical? 23:37:26 <Samu> im building an excel chart 23:38:12 <Samu> i just want to input coordinates for 2 stations, select cargo type and it gives me results 23:39:49 <Samu> i can then sort by average profit a year 23:39:55 <Eddi|zuHause> "canonical documentation" is jargon for "source code" 23:40:31 <Samu> it should tell me what's the best 'time in transit' 23:40:39 <Samu> lol 23:40:59 <Eddi|zuHause> it should tell you the formulas used for calculating the income 23:45:24 *** VidTheKid [~dexter@99-177-172-109.lightspeed.clmboh.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openttd 23:48:45 *** ZxBiohazardZx [~IceChat77@5ED05D6D.cm-7-1b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Quit: Beware of programmers who carry screwdrivers.] 23:51:56 *** KritiK [~Maxim@0001264a.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:54:52 *** Midnightmyth [~quassel@93-167-84-102-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]