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:) 05:25:03 <Jomann> and server search too :( 05:27:04 *** Pecio [~fgh@acek132.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 05:33:36 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@218.47.113.87.dyn.plus.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:48:48 *** LordAro|Phone [~LordAro@host217-43-119-147.range217-43.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 05:49:30 <LordAro|Phone> Jomann: you are the first (I was reading the logs) 05:49:49 <Jomann> k, just wondered noone else reported it 05:50:09 <LordAro|Phone> Probably only recently went offline 05:50:53 <LordAro|Phone> TrueBrain, Rubidium: Server(s) seem to be down 05:53:55 <Jomann> :) 06:09:15 *** gk [~gk@host86-185-81-71.range86-185.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:15:48 <planetmaker> confirmed 06:16:13 <planetmaker> good morning also 06:16:30 <Supercheese> or perhaps a stressful morning, if you're the sysadmin 06:17:18 <planetmaker> hm, it replies to ping but not ssh 06:20:02 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@89.137.75.224] has joined #openttd 06:29:11 <Terkhen> good morning 06:40:16 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has joined #openttd 06:46:46 <Jomann> hi 06:48:45 *** roadt_ [~roadt@114.96.136.119] has joined #openttd 06:51:45 *** Lord_Aro|Phone [~LordAro@host217-43-119-147.range217-43.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 06:51:45 *** LordAro|Phone [~LordAro@host217-43-119-147.range217-43.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:55:34 *** roadt [~roadt@223.240.97.216] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:04:36 *** Supercheese [~Password4@98.145.153.126] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 21.0/20130511120803]] 07:06:45 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 07:10:19 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 07:10:29 *** Extrems [borgs@24.157.137.219] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:10:53 *** roadt_ is now known as roadt 07:12:04 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:12:34 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-213-220-193-253.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 07:15:38 *** TWerkhoven [~TWerkhove@cpc10-linl9-2-0-cust80.18-2.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:15:53 *** TWerkhoven [~TWerkhove@cpc10-linl9-2-0-cust80.18-2.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 07:22:41 *** Extrems [borgs@24.157.137.219] has joined #openttd 07:22:54 *** Lord_Aro|Phone [~LordAro@host217-43-119-147.range217-43.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Bye] 07:30:53 *** DorpsGek [~dorpsgek@000128f9.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 07:30:56 *** mode/#openttd [+o DorpsGek] by ChanServ 07:32:50 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6A966.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 07:37:00 *** VidTheKid [~dexter@99-177-172-109.lightspeed.clmboh.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:39:56 *** VidTheKid [~dexter@99-177-172-109.lightspeed.clmboh.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openttd 07:40:52 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6A966.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:41:18 *** roadt [~roadt@114.96.136.119] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:54:40 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:02:24 *** robotboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:06:10 <planetmaker> Jomann, all services should be up again 08:06:26 <planetmaker> thanks for the notification as well 08:12:17 <NGC3982> Seriosly, that Xbox One thing is quite the poop deck. 08:16:57 <Jomann> yeah thank you planetmaker 08:20:09 <Jomann> I wanted to test some high traffic junctions and lines... but without wiki :/ 08:23:06 <Jomann> at which year is monorail time? 08:26:17 <Jomann> wow, this chat seems to be read as ingame chat ;) 08:28:51 <Xaroth|Work> 2000-something 08:29:01 <Xaroth|Work> and not everybody is looking at this all the time 08:29:08 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@wirenat2.strw.leidenuniv.nl] has joined #openttd 08:29:24 <Jomann> jo 08:38:19 *** robotboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 08:43:14 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 09:10:17 *** pugi [~pugi@dyndsl-091-096-049-102.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 09:14:38 <peter1138> hmm, to make white labels on some black key caps, should i use paper or tippex? 09:15:22 <peter1138> i don't have a white pen :( 09:18:04 <NGC3982> Paper. 09:22:07 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 09:25:27 *** se5a [~smuxi@121.99.44.9] has joined #openttd 09:25:56 <se5a> so I've got a train going round a circular track, but it doesnt seem to be collecting anything 09:26:07 <se5a> I did have a train going around the same track before and it was working 09:26:14 <se5a> then I added another train, but they crashed 09:26:29 <se5a> so after the pileup was cleaned up I re-added one train 09:26:33 <se5a> but it's just not 09:26:38 <se5a> collecting stuff 09:27:21 <se5a> the stations are all three tiles long, the train is 4 carages+ enging 09:27:25 <se5a> engine 09:27:40 <se5a> I did extend some stations thinking that might be the reason 09:27:42 <se5a> but no 09:32:49 <Pinkbeast> se5a: The space bar and Enter are not interchangeable. Does it have orders to stop? To pick up cargo? 09:33:37 <se5a> yes 09:34:31 <se5a> it has goto orders for each of the stations around the loop 09:36:45 <Pinkbeast> And loading orders? Is it refitted to carry the right cargo? 09:37:51 <se5a> loading orders are just the default, and yes it's got the right carrages 09:38:08 <Pinkbeast> But are they refitted to carry the right cargo? 09:38:27 <Pinkbeast> Try adding an explicit load order where you expect it to load. 09:54:34 *** VidTheKid [~dexter@99-177-172-109.lightspeed.clmboh.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:55:16 *** VidTheKid [~dexter@99-177-172-109.lightspeed.clmboh.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openttd 09:55:43 *** snorre [~snorre@c3D04BF51.dhcp.as2116.net] has joined #openttd 09:57:29 *** snorre_ [~snorre@c3D04BF51.dhcp.as2116.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:59:34 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:04:01 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 10:11:20 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@89.137.75.224] has quit [] 10:11:22 *** Brumi [~quassel@78-131-41-191.pool.hdsnet.hu] has joined #openttd 10:15:35 *** VidTheKid [~dexter@99-177-172-109.lightspeed.clmboh.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:16:19 *** robotboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:17:14 *** VidTheKid [~dexter@99-177-172-109.lightspeed.clmboh.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openttd 10:21:48 *** snorre_ [~snorre@c3D04BF51.dhcp.as2116.net] has joined #openttd 10:23:35 *** snorre [~snorre@c3D04BF51.dhcp.as2116.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:30:13 *** robotboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 10:45:27 <NGC3982> Uhm 10:45:38 <NGC3982> When trying to duplicate a train, i get "Train too long" 10:45:44 <NGC3982> With an allready existing train 10:45:51 <NGC3982> No configuration changes has been made. 10:47:47 <NGC3982> Oh, ok? 10:48:00 <NGC3982> The size of the Flatcar in NARS simply changed. 10:48:14 <planetmaker> :-) 10:48:22 <planetmaker> nasty 10:48:42 <NGC3982> http://i.imgur.com/WywOXtF.png 10:48:50 <planetmaker> and unexpected. Should be a new wagon then 10:49:21 *** Tvel [~Thunderbi@212.36.5.170] has joined #openttd 10:49:48 <NGC3982> Yes 10:50:24 *** Tvel [~Thunderbi@212.36.5.170] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:50:41 *** Tvel [~Thunderbi@212.36.5.170] has joined #openttd 10:51:43 *** Mucht [~Martin@000128e2.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 10:52:04 *** Ristovski [~rafael@31.11.127.74] has joined #openttd 10:52:20 *** Tvel [~Thunderbi@212.36.5.170] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:05:08 *** Markk [~mark@rikskriminalpolisen.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:05:14 *** Markk [~mark@rikskriminalpolisen.com] has joined #openttd 11:17:37 *** Alice3 [~Alice@cpc18-grim14-2-0-cust478.12-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 11:37:57 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 11:38:15 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@89.137.75.224] has joined #openttd 11:52:53 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:58:25 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 12:10:19 *** robotboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:24:22 *** Mucht [~Martin@000128e2.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:28:47 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6A966.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 12:36:26 *** se5a [~smuxi@121.99.44.9] has left #openttd [] 13:06:12 *** Pecio [~fgh@acek132.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has left #openttd [] 13:07:21 *** Tvel [~Thunderbi@212.36.5.170] has joined #openttd 13:17:03 *** Djohaal [~Djohaal@201.47.13.68.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has joined #openttd 13:25:39 *** Knogle [knogle@1604ds5-soeb.0.fullrate.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:26:40 *** Knogle [knogle@1604ds5-soeb.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #openttd 13:46:00 *** Brumi [~quassel@78-131-41-191.pool.hdsnet.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:47:44 <Belugas> hello 14:08:11 *** Mornington [~chatzilla@91.142.104.130] has joined #openttd 14:08:16 <Mornington> !password 14:09:13 *** Mornington [~chatzilla@91.142.104.130] has left #openttd [] 14:18:43 <Eddi|zuHause> that was the test whether glx is here? 14:23:43 *** Tvel [~Thunderbi@212.36.5.170] has quit [Quit: Tvel] 14:43:44 *** DanMacK [DanMacK@node-11508.tor.pppoe.execulink.com] has joined #openttd 14:43:54 <DanMacK> Hey all 14:45:11 *** Brumi [~quassel@78-131-41-191.pool.hdsnet.hu] has joined #openttd 14:56:44 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6A966.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:58:47 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6A966.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 15:02:10 *** HolyDragoon [~IceChat77@164.35.37.188.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #openttd 15:10:49 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has joined #openttd 15:28:04 *** zooks [~zooks@vhe-540241.sshn.net] has joined #openttd 15:29:19 *** Pensacola [~quassel@phys9212.phys.tue.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:42:19 <planetmaker> good evening 15:43:01 *** Djohaal [~Djohaal@201.47.13.68.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:47:17 <Eddi|zuHause> warm evening 15:47:53 *** DanMacK [DanMacK@node-11508.tor.pppoe.execulink.com] has quit [] 15:53:44 *** zooks [~zooks@vhe-540241.sshn.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:59:15 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@wirenat2.strw.leidenuniv.nl] has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:00:28 *** Elukka [~Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [] 16:08:40 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:13:37 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 16:14:33 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has joined #openttd 16:25:04 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fdfea.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 16:26:55 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 16:26:58 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai|noir] by ChanServ 16:32:24 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-84-154.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:44:48 *** pugi [~pugi@dyndsl-091-096-049-102.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit [] 16:46:16 *** zooks [~zooks@vhe-540241.sshn.net] has joined #openttd 17:01:03 *** glx [glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 17:01:06 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 17:05:43 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1867E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 17:08:57 *** Progman_ [~progman@p57A1A928.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 17:13:49 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1867E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:13:54 *** DarkAceZ [~BillyMays@50.107.52.179] has joined #openttd 17:13:59 *** Progman_ is now known as Progman 17:27:58 *** zooks [~zooks@vhe-540241.sshn.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:30:55 *** Alberth [~hat3@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 17:30:58 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 17:31:26 <Alberth> o/ 17:34:05 *** Supercheese [~Password4@98.145.153.126] has joined #openttd 17:36:47 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 17:37:09 <Wolf01> hi hi 17:38:17 <Alberth> o/ Wolf01 17:59:29 *** zooks [~zooks@vhe-540241.sshn.net] has joined #openttd 18:02:43 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i5387A9BD.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 18:15:37 *** gk [~gk@host86-185-81-71.range86-185.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 18:16:33 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1A928.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:45:03 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1A928.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 18:47:32 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d108-180-71-7.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 18:55:57 *** Djohaal [~Djohaal@201.47.13.68.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has joined #openttd 19:01:29 <HolyDragoon> Hello... let me check if I get this right. 19:01:40 <Alberth> hi 19:01:47 <HolyDragoon> To keep extracting industries going, I must spam them with transports? 19:02:16 <Alberth> that delays the closure 19:03:16 <HolyDragoon> Hmmm... makes sense, but doesn't make sense at the same time. I guess it's a matter of investment/upkeep vs. total income from the hauls. 19:03:17 <Alberth> production fluctuates randomly, but with a negative trend for extractive industries (ie to simulate them running out of stuff to extract) 19:03:34 <planetmaker> eh... Alberth mines never close, if served well 19:03:40 <planetmaker> only temperate oil wells close 19:03:46 <planetmaker> (assuming default industries) 19:03:47 <HolyDragoon> That explains the 500+ ton coal mine, then. 19:04:04 * Alberth stands corrected 19:04:20 <planetmaker> you described ecs behaviour, Alberth ;-) 19:04:28 <planetmaker> or pbi 19:04:59 <HolyDragoon> ECS... is that the GRF that makes everything... twice as complex? 19:05:08 <Alberth> good, now I can fake to believe HolyDragoon was talking about another industry set :p 19:05:40 <Alberth> HolyDragoon: depends on your point of view, others find it twice as much of a challenge :) 19:05:44 <HolyDragoon> I check mods around, but I must admit that after all this time, the only thing I'm good at is passenger transports... and even that is doubtful. 19:06:13 <HolyDragoon> True, I haven't got the hang of it. Probably worth another peek, though. 19:06:26 <Alberth> you may want to try FIRS too 19:06:37 <Supercheese> FIRS is awesome 19:06:55 * HolyDragoon takes notes. 19:07:09 <Alberth> recommended to begin with a basic economy, or you'll drown in the number of industries and connections 19:08:16 <planetmaker> yeah. If you're new, don't yet start with changing industries. Use industry NewGRFs when you want something new after you know the default ones 19:08:46 <Alberth> or if you want a slightly changed but not too different industry set, opengfx+industries 19:08:58 <HolyDragoon> I got the hang of the chains, is just on the transport part that I kind of suck. 19:09:46 <planetmaker> yeah... opengfx+industries allow to arbitrarily select chains from all climates 19:09:53 <Alberth> you could post a savegame of an attempt and ask for feedback about problems you experience 19:11:06 <Alberth> planetmaker: including toyland? :o 19:11:42 <Alberth> toyland industries in temperate might be fun :) 19:12:03 <HolyDragoon> Oh, toyland. 19:12:29 <HolyDragoon> My biggst grip with it is the range of useable stuff. 19:13:12 <Alberth> planetmaker: last weekend I discovered the alpine climate in opengfx+landscape, much better than the grey/brownish default opengfx ground tile set 19:13:35 <Alberth> HolyDragoon: "usable stuff" ? 19:13:55 <HolyDragoon> The... uh, does 'Rolling Stock' describe it accurately? 19:14:23 <Alberth> if you mean the vehicles, yes it does :) 19:14:36 <juzza1> i noticed the alpine too recently... before that i tried to use blunck's ancient alpine newgrf with bad results :D 19:14:41 <HolyDragoon> Yeah, the vehicles. 19:15:05 <Alberth> do you care for realism, or do you just want a good set of vehicles so you can build without worrying too much about the vehicles? 19:15:24 <Alberth> if the latter, I recommend to try NUTS 19:15:50 <HolyDragoon> I'm a bit of a train person, so I don't mind too much about few cars, but I like my game with several trams and trains. 19:16:21 <HolyDragoon> I find the Dutch Tram Set very cool for that, it's a bit of a change form the vanilla ones. 19:16:28 <HolyDragoon> *from 19:17:03 <Alberth> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nuts/wiki 19:17:13 <planetmaker> Alberth, indeed, toyland chains are not mixed in opengfx+industries yet 19:17:20 <planetmaker> I guess that's a missing feature really 19:17:33 <planetmaker> And I'm happy that you like the alpine climate :-) 19:18:46 <HolyDragoon> Oh, that looks nice, thanks! 19:18:55 <planetmaker> Alberth, I assume you played with a recent head version of opengfx+landscape. Any... issues? 19:19:36 <planetmaker> If I don't get to give it a more thorough spin soon, I'll simply tag head as 1.0.0 and release it ;-) 19:20:01 <planetmaker> not before next Tuesday, though 19:20:11 <Alberth> other than a big lack of useful version indication in random downloaded opengfx+landscapes? :) 19:20:19 <planetmaker> :-) 19:20:39 <__ln__> http://www.vintage-computer.com/vcforum/showthread.php?37827-Greetings-from-GE-Canada 19:20:40 <planetmaker> I probably should name the files inside the tar 19:20:41 <Alberth> nope, no issues as far I can remember 19:21:07 <Alberth> the directory would be my preference 19:21:32 <Alberth> ie then you can do "unzip -x landscape.zip" 19:22:07 <Alberth> if only you could have two "landscape.zip" files in one directory :p 19:22:15 <planetmaker> you mean untar? 19:23:51 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 19:24:46 <Alberth> ogfx-landscape.tar.zip <-- apparently, unzip :) 19:25:14 <Alberth> I don't unpack tar files if possible 19:25:18 <Alberth> hi Zuu 19:26:56 <planetmaker> ok, indeed there's no reason to do so 19:27:14 <planetmaker> ok... so... maybe the zip should simply contain a dir wherein the tar resides 19:27:19 <planetmaker> that would suffice, right? 19:27:37 *** Brumi [~quassel@78-131-41-191.pool.hdsnet.hu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:28:02 <planetmaker> it would also suit me... as I usually build only bundle_tar during development... and that could still all be the same. Which then allows a simple "reload_newgrfs" 19:28:20 *** flaa [~flaa@89.100.79.103] has joined #openttd 19:28:33 <planetmaker> (I know, not a good reason really) 19:28:36 <Zuu> Hello Alberth 19:28:55 <planetmaker> hello Zuu 19:35:55 <Ristovski> planetmaker: who the hell uses tar.zip 19:37:52 <planetmaker> http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/ogfx-landscape/nightlies/LATEST/ 19:37:57 <planetmaker> ^ I do :-P 19:38:10 <planetmaker> .zip doesn't confuse windows people 19:38:25 <planetmaker> and .tar needs no unpacking for openttd 19:38:37 *** pugi [~pugi@dyndsl-091-096-049-102.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 19:42:19 <Alberth> the zip has a dir around the tar? I'd prefer without that 19:42:21 *** KritiK [~Maxim@0001264a.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 19:42:59 <planetmaker> so no directory which is unzipped? Hm 19:43:10 <planetmaker> so a named tar filename... hm... 19:43:57 <Alberth> what about a date instead of a revision? 19:44:35 <planetmaker> well. Then better revision. The only reason I do use same filenames is that it's overwritten upon rebuild - without need to clean :-) 19:44:49 <planetmaker> thus the behaviour is mostly a result of my lazyness 19:46:12 <planetmaker> as openttd reloads the newgrf from the same file when you use "reload_newgrfs" 19:46:22 <Alberth> just (re)generate a link with a fixed name in a search directory at the end of the build? 19:46:24 <planetmaker> thus for the ease of development that's... VERY helpful 19:46:27 <Supercheese> Unless yer on Windows :( 19:46:49 *** ZxBiohazardZx [~IceChat77@5ED05D6D.cm-7-1b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 19:48:15 <Alberth> or more naughty, a rename of the directory ;) 19:49:03 <planetmaker> well. the cleanest solution likely would simply be like ogfx-landscape-r212.tar, right? 19:51:44 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r25425 /trunk/src/lang (5 files) (2013-06-18 17:45:30 UTC) 19:51:48 <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 19:51:49 <DorpsGek> simplified_chinese - 50 changes by siu238X, ww9980 19:51:51 <DorpsGek> traditional_chinese - 7 changes by siu238X 19:51:52 <DorpsGek> croatian - 32 changes by VoyagerOne 19:51:53 <DorpsGek> english_AU - 2 changes by mrtux 19:51:54 <DorpsGek> german - 9 changes by Jogio 19:51:57 <DorpsGek> Commit by fonsinchen :: r25426 trunk/src/station_gui.cpp (2013-06-18 19:32:58 UTC) 19:51:59 <DorpsGek> -Fix: highlight the right entry in the sorting selector in station view window 19:55:37 <Alberth> I'd like that, but it may break with evolve 19:56:00 <planetmaker> with evolve? 19:56:41 <Alberth> revisions are starting to become meaningless :) 19:56:52 <planetmaker> oh. yes. they are 19:57:27 <planetmaker> ogfx-landscape-135:9b89d8a8cfcb.tar :-P 19:57:48 <Alberth> s/135:// then :) 19:58:19 <Alberth> although... it gives a hint of order :p 19:58:30 <planetmaker> yeah, that was the reasoning behind 19:58:55 <planetmaker> but... looks quite ... hm, ugly 19:59:29 <frosch123> Alberth: nice explanation of the banking crisis 20:00:35 <Alberth> if all crisises with banks were that simple... :) 20:00:47 <Zuu> planetmaker: Not to mention that a colon in the name is problematic in windows (assuming you are going to publish that file) 20:00:48 <HolyDragoon> Oh, there's an active translator? nice. 20:02:25 *** koksi_ [~koksi@e179188171.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 20:02:28 <frosch123> Alberth: they were too afraid to close down the company, so they just kept pulling interest 20:03:21 <Zuu> HolyDragoon: Yes 'translators' is quite active: http://www.ohloh.net/p/openttd/contributors 20:03:39 *** zooks [~zooks@vhe-540241.sshn.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:04:55 <HolyDragoon> Strange, FF keeps saying it can't find the server. 20:05:25 <Zuu> I had to press ctrl+R for it to show 20:05:26 <planetmaker> seems down, yes 20:09:34 *** Jomann [~koksi@g229088155.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:31:09 <Ristovski> planetmaker: hmm, the no data from server for X seconds dialog is annoying, since for the every new second, the dialog reopens with the updated value 20:31:15 <Ristovski> instead of just updating the value 20:33:08 <Ristovski> also, doing "refresh server" logs it as connecting and then disconnecting 20:33:38 <Alberth> planetmaker: is opengfx+landscape supposed to have alpine-ish climate in toyland? version 0.2.3 20:37:26 <planetmaker> in that version I allowed to use it everywhere I think. I think I changed it only afterwards 20:37:37 <planetmaker> especially funny in tropical :-) 20:37:52 <Alberth> alpine desert :p 20:38:12 <planetmaker> :-) 20:38:35 <NGC3982> http://i.imgur.com/5y2YTr2.png 20:38:37 <NGC3982> THIS. 20:38:50 <NGC3982> Who ever had this idea and went trough with it, shalt' have a thousand kisses. 20:39:27 <Alberth> thank you :) 20:40:48 <NGC3982> While playing with ECS or FIRS, it makes everything so, so much easier. 20:40:50 <Alberth> tbh, I got tired of being completely lost with finding industries that produced or consumed some cargo type in FIRS, so I fixed that 20:40:56 <NGC3982> Yeah, exactly. 20:40:58 * NGC3982 huggles 20:41:40 <Alberth> in fact, FIRS is the sole reason that window exists at all ;) 20:42:10 <V453000> honestly FIRS is very easy to get the hang of as it is very systematical 20:42:15 <V453000> unlike ECS for example 20:42:57 <Alberth> I don't play enough to see the system in FIRS :) 20:43:08 <Wolf01> 'night all 20:43:15 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 20:43:39 <Alberth> although the current decreased rate of changing could make that possible now :) 20:43:53 <Zuu> Lately I tend to get back to mostly playing with the original industries so that I can spend time playing the game rather than figuring out how the industries work. 20:45:23 <Alberth> yeah, I also play a lot with default industries, or with opengfx+industries which is not too different 20:48:21 <Eddi|zuHause> i haven't actually played in quite a while 20:48:22 <V453000> well, those are also best :P 20:50:42 <Ristovski> Btw guys, is it just it Linux, or does OpenTTD not mute itself when minimized? 20:51:03 <Ristovski> s/it L/in L/ 20:51:24 <frosch123> does ottd even notice that it is minimised 20:51:32 <HolyDragoon> Yeah, that. 20:51:34 <frosch123> also, why should it mute if not paused? 20:52:42 <frosch123> i always disable sound in about every game; is it actually common to mute on minimize? 20:52:53 <frosch123> i would not know why it should do that in the firs tplace 20:53:08 <frosch123> sound effect muting makes no sense imo. that stuff is only muted when pausing 20:53:15 <frosch123> and mutnig music makes even less sense 21:01:35 <Alberth> good night 21:01:36 <Ristovski> frosch123: what if you are just waiting for stuff and are afk 21:01:53 <Ristovski> frosch123: would be nice if you could minimize the window and it would stop the sound 21:01:59 <Alberth> pause the game? 21:02:04 <frosch123> i would not know why one would wait for stuff in the first place 21:02:11 <Ristovski> Alberth: what if you are waiting for something in-game 21:02:26 <frosch123> what are you wiating for in game? 21:02:35 <Ristovski> maybe money? 21:02:35 *** Alberth [~hat3@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 21:02:52 *** Alice3 [~Alice@cpc18-grim14-2-0-cust478.12-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [] 21:02:58 <Ristovski> frosch123: zooming in on a empty area of the map works tho 21:03:12 <Ristovski> since it makes sound for thing only displayed on the screen 21:03:19 <frosch123> if you have to wait for money, you shuold start with a higher loan 21:03:42 <Ristovski> true 21:03:49 <frosch123> leaving a game running unwatched is quite pointless, isn't it? 21:04:18 <frosch123> well, unless you do an ai competition 21:04:24 <Ristovski> ^^ 21:04:37 <Ristovski> perfect example on why to leave the game running 21:06:13 <MNIM> You could just mute the game through your OS 21:06:33 <Ristovski> MNIM: I don't know a way of doing that on linux 21:07:31 <MNIM> right click the speaker icon, go to sound settings and look for a tab called 'applications' 21:07:38 <MNIM> at least, that's how I do it in my distro 21:08:03 <Ristovski> but I need gnome/mate for that 21:08:06 <Ristovski> I use AwesomeWM 21:08:38 <Ristovski> lemme copy the gnome-sound-applet from my ubuntu VM 21:09:29 <Ristovski> nvm, it's in my repos, and yes, that does work MNIM, but kinda time-wasting 21:09:39 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i5387A9BD.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: http://bit.ly/nkczDT] 21:09:51 <frosch123> night 21:09:54 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fdfea.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: quak] 21:12:24 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:12:53 *** Djohaal [~Djohaal@201.47.13.68.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:15:12 <Ristovski> there isn't a way to uninstall online content, is there 21:15:15 <Ristovski> (ingame) 21:39:58 <planetmaker> no 21:40:13 *** snorre [~snorre@c3D04BF51.dhcp.as2116.net] has joined #openttd 21:40:15 <planetmaker> but I uninstall myself now from channel monitoring temporarily. good night ;-) 21:41:59 *** snorre_ [~snorre@c3D04BF51.dhcp.as2116.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:42:28 *** flaa [~flaa@89.100.79.103] has quit [Quit: leaving] 21:43:15 * NGC3982 notices how pm.exe get's stuck in Norton. 21:46:23 <Terkhen> good night 21:47:26 <HellTiger_> http://z0r.de/650 21:54:40 <Eddi|zuHause> "If you can read this something went wrong :(" 21:55:14 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, you didn't consider someone disabling javascript, you fuckwits 21:57:21 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@89.137.75.224] has quit [] 21:59:56 *** ZxBiohazardZx [~IceChat77@5ED05D6D.cm-7-1b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Quit: If you can't laugh at yourself, make fun of other people.] 22:04:52 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 22:17:08 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1A928.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:35:06 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@218.47.113.87.dyn.plus.net] has joined #openttd 22:38:54 *** Ristovski [~rafael@31.11.127.74] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:46:30 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:09:49 *** perk11 [~perk11@broadband-46-242-13-101.nationalcablenetworks.ru] has joined #openttd 23:10:02 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has quit [] 23:31:44 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:56:34 *** KritiK [~Maxim@0001264a.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:59:46 *** HolyDragoon [~IceChat77@164.35.37.188.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Quit: Relax, its only ONES and ZEROS!]