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00:00:47 *** Djohaal [~Djohaal@201.47.16.176.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:01:30 *** Midnightmyth [~quassel@93-167-84-102-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:26:01 *** SamanthaD [~SamanthaD@c-98-248-25-134.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 00:26:05 <SamanthaD> Yo! 00:26:38 <SamanthaD> The SVN repository is officially bonkers... 00:27:35 <SamanthaD> if I try to checkout from 'https://secure.openttd.org/svn" target="_blank">https://secure.openttd.org/svn' it wants me to use 'http://secure.openttd.org/svn/' but if I use that one it complains that I ought to be using 'https://secure.openttd.org/svn" target="_blank">https://secure.openttd.org/svn' 00:27:37 <SamanthaD> it's a loop! 00:27:42 <SamanthaD> *gets dizzy and falls down* 00:38:56 *** roboboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 00:43:37 *** MatrixCL [~mielipuol@host-109-204-157-114.tp-fne.tampereenpuhelin.net] has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de] 00:47:57 <glx> SamanthaD: why not use svn://svn.openttd.org/trunk ? 00:49:07 <SamanthaD> glx: I'd rather use an SSL or an SSH tunnel if I can at all help it 00:51:56 <glx> https://secure.openttd.org/svn/trunk/ should work as it works in the browser 00:53:14 <glx> just tested, it works for me 00:53:17 <SamanthaD> YES! 00:53:20 <SamanthaD> it's worknig for me too 00:53:23 <SamanthaD> thank you VERY much! 00:53:53 <glx> checkout the whole repo is never a good idea :) 00:54:02 <SamanthaD> :p 00:54:21 <SamanthaD> bandwidth shmandwidth 00:54:43 <SamanthaD> also, someone maybe ought to fix the links in the developer's section of the website then 00:55:55 <glx> they are correct 00:56:05 <SamanthaD> oh... 00:56:15 <glx> they just don't specify trunk 00:56:20 <SamanthaD> ah 00:56:24 <SamanthaD> well, I'm happy 00:57:47 <glx> I guess it's assumed people will add /trunk or whatever branch they want to checkout 00:58:38 <SamanthaD> ah, yes, probably 00:58:58 <SamanthaD> either way, I wanted trunk and that's what I'm still apparently downloading 00:59:27 <SamanthaD> I gotta hand it to free-and-open-source development 00:59:48 <SamanthaD> you don't often find proprietary games with Luxembourgish translations... 01:00:14 <glx> oh there are more obscur languages available too :) 01:00:20 <SamanthaD> I know 01:00:25 <SamanthaD> I'm watching the translation files roll in 01:00:38 <SamanthaD> apparently there's no Lojban 01:00:48 <SamanthaD> though I think I saw Esperanto 01:01:38 * SamanthaD begins her Klingon translation 01:02:46 <glx> http://translator.openttd.org/en/status 01:03:15 <SamanthaD> nah, I honestly don't think anyone cares about an OpenTTD Klingon translation 01:05:11 <SamanthaD> also, apparently there's no klingon word for locomotive so... we're kinda hosed 01:07:03 *** KritiK [~Maxim@0001264a.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:14:50 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-213-220-193-253.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! 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I just get dizzy really easily with 3d graphics 08:26:45 <SamanthaD> I also really like sprite graphics for some nostalgic reason 08:26:55 * krinn don't want play any game, except pong : real men don't play pussy games with colors. 08:27:05 <SamanthaD> haha! 08:27:31 <SamanthaD> Let's hear it for ZZT! 08:27:36 <SamanthaD> best graphics EVER 08:29:25 <krinn> i once own an hercules video card, *cough* was top card with 4 or 7 colors i don't remember, ~1200euros (by that time) 08:29:52 <SamanthaD> Wow... that's... expensive 08:30:31 <krinn> hmmm, by that time, a computer was ~3000 08:31:02 <krinn> i think my first game was sram 08:31:08 <krinn> let me see if i can find you a pic :) 08:31:51 <krinn> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ADnMIT5JFI :D 08:32:06 <SamanthaD> I kinda missed out on the super early computers since my parents were luddites (still are) and barely saw the value in a television, let alone those "new fangled business machines" 08:32:45 <SamanthaD> I can't remember exactly how old I was but my first computer was a second hand Mac Plus 08:32:54 <SamanthaD> my first game was Reader Rabbit 08:33:10 <SamanthaD> oh my! those are actually some swanky graphics 08:33:45 <krinn> yeah, but my monitor was amber only 08:33:54 <SamanthaD> haha, that does make a difference 08:34:15 <SamanthaD> I discovered classic games in reverse 08:34:38 <SamanthaD> I got reader rabbit when I was real little on my first computer then when I was 13 or 14 or something I got a PC with Starcraft 08:34:41 <krinn> yeah, the card was rendering from black to yellow with like 4-6 browns 08:34:49 <SamanthaD> then I reached adulthood and got my hands on a Z-Machine interpreter and all hell broke loose ;) 08:36:03 <SamanthaD> though... I did play with ZZT a lot when I was little 08:36:30 <SamanthaD> and netreck :p 08:38:32 *** zooks [~zooks@vhe-540241.sshn.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:38:47 <krinn> never played zzt myself 08:39:36 <SamanthaD> Setting up DosBox to play ZZT is on my "things to do" list 08:39:58 <SamanthaD> ZZT was an old game engine thing where you could make your own (mostly action/adventure) games 08:40:02 <SamanthaD> it was very primitive 08:40:25 <SamanthaD> there was another "advanced" version of it but I can't remember the name 08:40:36 <SamanthaD> anyway, I did my first coding in ZZT :p 08:41:55 <peter1139> http://www.acornelectron.co.uk/ills/bugbyte/s-tk001.gif 08:42:08 <peter1139> Good stuff 08:42:22 <SamanthaD> I never played that one 08:42:47 <krinn> i brough a lynx computer (lol company collapse 1 week after) 08:43:15 <SamanthaD> heh... that must have been the pits 08:43:31 <krinn> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Camputers_Lynx_48k.JPG 08:43:42 <krinn> i was really made with the qwerty keyboard by that time 08:45:06 <peter1139> All those early companies went tits up, except Apple... 08:45:15 <SamanthaD> and IBM 08:45:21 <SamanthaD> and Xerox 08:45:25 <peter1139> IBM never really targetted the home user market though. 08:45:33 <SamanthaD> and Amiga, actually 08:45:39 <SamanthaD> did you know Amiga is still puttering along?! 08:45:47 <peter1139> the PCjr flopped though... 08:45:54 <SamanthaD> yup 08:46:06 *** Ristovski [~rafael@ppp-seco11pa2-46-193-128.78.wb.wifirst.net] has joined #openttd 08:46:25 <SamanthaD> I honestly don't know why people use AmigaOS anymore 08:46:50 <peter1139> Amiga was a product... 08:47:10 <SamanthaD> it's like... all the downsides of running a desktop GNU/Linux ten years ago only without the freedom 08:47:28 <SamanthaD> oh yeah... made by Commodore, you're right 08:47:38 <SamanthaD> point is, they still make AmigaOS 08:47:51 <peter1139> commodore don't :) 08:47:55 <SamanthaD> :p 08:48:05 <SamanthaD> yeah... 08:48:06 <peter1139> RISC OS is still developed to 08:48:07 <peter1139> +o 08:48:13 <peter1139> (but not by Acorn) 08:48:34 <SamanthaD> so is BeOS 08:48:50 <SamanthaD> there's even a FOSS clone of it 08:49:23 <peter1139> i've never met anyone who ever used beos 08:49:33 <SamanthaD> me either 08:50:44 <peter1139> hmm, wonder if GEM is still going 08:50:50 <SamanthaD> let's look it up... 08:54:11 <SamanthaD> apparently not 08:54:20 <SamanthaD> according to Wiki the last stable release was in 1988 08:54:34 <SamanthaD> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6b/Gem_11_Desktop.png 08:54:39 <SamanthaD> it's amazing we all didn't go blind 08:55:00 <peter1139> looks like windows 8 08:55:05 <SamanthaD> HAHA! 08:55:05 <peter1139> all flat :) 08:55:30 <peter1139> i remember another proprietory desktop system that didn't make it, but i don't remember its name :( 08:55:57 <peter1139> had a "nice looking" (at the time) interface with raised buttons etc 08:55:59 <SamanthaD> mmhm... a lot of proprietary desktops died 08:56:06 <SamanthaD> with freedom comes immortality 08:56:12 <SamanthaD> I don't think X11 will *ever* die 08:56:14 *** montalvo [~montalvo@macbook60.icrar.org] has joined #openttd 08:56:24 <SamanthaD> much to all of our disappointment ;) 08:56:25 <peter1139> ubuntu will! 08:56:38 <SamanthaD> oh god... Unity 08:56:47 <peter1139> never used it but ... urgh, ubuntu 08:57:00 <SamanthaD> Ubuntu: We put spyware on your freedoms! 08:57:17 <SamanthaD> I used Unity for a very SHORT while 08:57:21 <peter1139> trying to raise ,000,000 on indie gogo... 08:57:25 <krinn> i would put my bet on xorg, but x11 life will get hard imo 08:57:29 <peter1139> canonical is no indie company :S 08:57:31 <SamanthaD> back when it first came out and was still known as "Ubuntu Netbook Remix" it was actually pretty useful 08:57:47 <SamanthaD> those saved ten pixels really helped when your screen barely had more resolution than a cellphone 08:58:13 <SamanthaD> oh, I kinda subsumed xorg into "x11" 08:58:16 <SamanthaD> after all, it IS a fork 08:58:38 <krinn> but the fork reason should be why x11 life will get harder now 08:58:45 <SamanthaD> does anyone actually use vanilla x11 anymore?! 08:59:07 <SamanthaD> hmm... probably the same people who use OpenOffice.org 08:59:21 <krinn> :) 08:59:23 * peter1139 mumbles about the current crop of toolkits making remote X11 useless 08:59:28 <krinn> oracle so 08:59:32 <SamanthaD> yes... that is sad 08:59:45 <SamanthaD> and Wayland doesn't even have network terminals in its specifications last I looked 09:00:14 <peter1139> nope, they're going the vnc-type way 09:00:25 <SamanthaD> honestly, VNC isn't all that bad 09:00:38 <SamanthaD> it's not appropriate for servers though 09:00:48 <peter1139> well 09:00:50 <SamanthaD> that being said, what are you doing running a desktop on a server in the first place?! 09:01:11 <peter1139> x11/wayland aren't appropriate for servers either :p 09:01:18 <SamanthaD> exactly 09:02:41 <SamanthaD> well... they're appropriate when the server in question is the "meat" behind a bunch of headless workstations! 09:03:02 <peter1139> that's kinda different though 09:03:05 <krinn> hdd weren't cheap 09:03:07 <SamanthaD> yup 09:03:08 <peter1139> and hopefully that'll be on a lan 09:03:22 <SamanthaD> nah, I enjoy lag 09:03:36 <peter1139> token ring? heh 09:03:41 <SamanthaD> HAHA 09:03:54 <peter1139> yeah, thin-computing is kinda dead since laptops are so cheap 09:03:58 <peter1139> well actually no 09:04:04 <peter1139> thin-computing has turned into web-computing 09:04:10 <SamanthaD> or at least since "nettops" are so cheap 09:04:26 <peter1139> reading the ubuntu blogs the other day (i'm crazy) and they're all about web shit and amazon cloud shit... 09:04:50 <peter1139> and the gnome blogs... they're lamenting that nobody uses gnome anymore, it's all web-apps that people use 09:05:11 <peter1139> i dunno what planet they're all on but i loathe the concept of web apps for real work :S 09:05:22 <SamanthaD> nowadays I'd venture to say it's cheaper to buy five Atom based nettops with enough power to do their own hosting than five thin clients and their server 09:05:31 <SamanthaD> YES! 09:05:56 <SamanthaD> I can't believe that Ubuntu would embrace the cloud 09:05:58 <SamanthaD> actually, I can 09:06:00 <peter1139> i still use an email client, heh 09:06:01 <SamanthaD> the cloud makes money 09:06:04 <SamanthaD> me too 09:06:23 <peter1139> but they all put their trust in the likes of gmail 09:06:24 <peter1139> sigh 09:06:32 <SamanthaD> but then again, we're using IRC so... 09:06:35 <peter1139> true 09:06:44 <peter1139> i'm kinda obsolete :S 09:07:11 <SamanthaD> we're using IRC on a channel about a project to reverse-engineer an old game for the sake of software freedom 09:07:23 <SamanthaD> I don't think you'll find many supporters of the "cloud" here 09:07:48 <krinn> no, but i support clowns 09:07:55 <SamanthaD> clowns are awesome 09:08:13 <krinn> that's why i love gnome 09:08:20 * peter1139 has a £15... cheque... o_O 09:08:23 <krinn> cannot be anything but clowns making it 09:08:30 <peter1139> they're pretty obsolete 09:08:54 <SamanthaD> I used to love Gnome until they got the idea that user preferences "hurt brand identity" 09:09:04 * krinn think peter1139 should raise its prize, it's too cheap for such a sexy body 09:09:05 <peter1139> krinn, they're only concerned about "brand" now :( 09:09:12 <SamanthaD> yeah 09:09:17 <SamanthaD> I'm so grateful to XFCE 09:09:25 <peter1139> can't have themes! ruins our brand 09:09:26 <SamanthaD> I don't know what I would have done if it din't exist 09:09:44 <peter1139> xfce isn't as consistent as gnome 2 was 09:09:45 <krinn> well, i still use gnome, but v2 09:09:54 <SamanthaD> true, but it's pretty nice 09:10:03 <SamanthaD> and I know I'd never get my mother to use Openbox 09:10:15 <peter1139> problem with gnome is the gnome devs don't use it 09:10:24 <peter1139> they're all on os x and, again, web-apps 09:10:39 *** xT2 [~ST2@bl20-251-190.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:10:46 <SamanthaD> I get enough requests for tech support at ungodly hours. I don't need to explain how to format a text configuration file every time she wants to change the desktop image. 09:10:50 <peter1139> i'm sure it's lovely if all you need is a maximized web browser... 09:10:57 <SamanthaD> wait... seriously?! 09:11:04 <krinn> no, the problem with gnome (and many linux prog) is redhat 09:11:10 <SamanthaD> (ps: I love OpenBox, don't get me wrong) 09:11:12 *** ST2 [~ST2@bl20-251-190.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 09:12:07 <SamanthaD> what gets me is all the forks of Gnome3 09:12:28 <krinn> i know gnome2 fork but some guys fork gnome3 ? 09:12:41 <SamanthaD> Yeah, it's called Cinnamon I think 09:12:51 <krinn> i see the point to fork gnome2, but forking gnome3, no i don't get why 09:13:25 <SamanthaD> it looks pretty nice but a lot of it is currently rather hacked together and some clown coded in a routine that makes the window manager suck about 3-5% of my CPU at idle 09:13:38 <SamanthaD> I brought it up with the devs and they tell me that it's working as expected 09:13:46 <peter1139> yeah, well, i actually hate all this composite crap 09:14:01 <SamanthaD> krinn: eyecandy 09:14:03 <peter1139> sure it offloads stuff to the gpu, but... it never feels as fast 09:14:13 <SamanthaD> that's because it isn't as fast 09:14:25 <peter1139> and my 8800gt isn't exactly low end, although nothing like high end any more 09:14:29 <SamanthaD> also, I like my GPU idling on a laptop 09:15:08 <SamanthaD> I've measured the power draw on my batteries and compositing can cost me an extra 1-2W of power 09:16:05 <SamanthaD> you know what really peeved me about Gnome3 though, more than anything else? 09:16:14 <krinn> yeah 09:16:15 <peter1139> that they ruined gnome 2? 09:16:19 <krinn> it's not gnome 2 ? 09:16:37 <SamanthaD> the way that they bundled end-user apps so tightly with the DE that you almost couldn't use anything else 09:16:51 <SamanthaD> Epiphany instead of Pidgin 09:17:17 <peter1139> empathy is so buggy :( 09:17:27 <peter1139> half the time it won't open chat windows for me 09:17:34 <SamanthaD> yes, and they refuse to support OTR out of principle 09:17:36 <peter1139> it actually worked better in gnome 2 09:18:12 <SamanthaD> "If you want encryption you should use a protocol that has encryption built into its specification" 09:18:20 <peter1139> which is... none 09:18:28 <SamanthaD> XMPP I think has support for it 09:18:33 <SamanthaD> but most clients don't 09:18:35 <krinn> that's gnome guys, fucked up gnome2 by doing a crappy running gnome3 that is l33t for nothing but battle against another crappy desktop (unity) and then crying nobody likes gnome anymore 09:18:53 <SamanthaD> :p 09:19:01 <krinn> and none seems to see why... 09:20:04 *** roboboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:20:05 <SamanthaD> I can't believe that Debian defaults to Gnome3 09:20:12 <SamanthaD> have you seen Debian's implementation of Gnome3? 09:20:27 <peter1139> i'm using it 09:20:29 <SamanthaD> it's so heavily patched that it's barely recognizable 09:20:43 <SamanthaD> what do you think of it? 09:20:52 <peter1139> well... sucks compared to gnome 2 09:21:02 <peter1139> i've not used an unpatched version of it though 09:21:19 <SamanthaD> peter1139: Debian's implementation of XFCE is actually pretty swell. Just say'in 09:21:25 <peter1139> i went back to using windowmaker for a bit but some things didn't work right 09:21:43 <peter1139> xdg-open on a directory opened a web browser... good stuff 09:22:18 <SamanthaD> I remember back when I first discovered Gnome 09:22:24 <SamanthaD> it was *awesome* 09:22:27 <peter1139> corba! 09:24:14 <SamanthaD> corba? 09:24:33 <peter1139> early gnome was all about corba linking things together 09:24:41 <SamanthaD> ooooh 09:24:58 <SamanthaD> I dunno... it was a long time ago 09:25:09 <SamanthaD> all I remember was it was cleaner than KDE 09:25:25 <SamanthaD> and my pointer didn't hop around as much 09:26:04 <SamanthaD> I'm not a big KDE fan but I'm glad it's around 09:26:24 <SamanthaD> a lot of these newcomers seem to insist on desktop sparkle 09:27:56 *** Jomann [~abchirk@g226176122.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:29:29 *** Jomann [~abchirk@g226176122.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 09:32:53 <krinn> you know what's bad with random playlist : hear t.n.t from ac/dc after bach air, it hurts 09:33:54 <SamanthaD> hehe 09:34:54 * SamanthaD is listening to Eastern Orthodox liturgical music 09:36:28 <SamanthaD> the choir sounds HUGE but because of the construction of the domes of Russian churches, specifically the indentations in the roof, it causes a rather complex echo delay 09:36:44 <SamanthaD> specifically designed to make a choir sound three or four times as large as it actually is 09:36:50 <SamanthaD> I think that's just the coolest thing 09:37:16 <krinn> could be interresting to listen to that yes 09:38:53 <SamanthaD> look up the monks of Kiev-Pechersk Lavra 09:38:55 *** ntoskrnl [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 09:38:56 *** Midnightmyth [~quassel@93-167-84-102-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has joined #openttd 09:40:41 <SamanthaD> add on the basso profundo and it's <3 09:41:05 <krinn> wow nice looks like lisa gerard 09:41:32 <SamanthaD> what does? 09:41:47 <krinn> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IomHi-d7Gqw 09:42:15 <SamanthaD> 500 internal server error :p 09:42:32 <SamanthaD> ah, there we go 09:43:30 <krinn> try some dead can dance then :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Do5vj3D-OD4 09:44:05 <SamanthaD> oh yeah, I was just listening to that! 09:44:09 *** fanioz [~fanioz@180.246.124.21] has joined #openttd 09:44:55 <SamanthaD> oooh, good sounds 09:45:16 <krinn> i love dead can dance, i'm big fan 09:45:27 <SamanthaD> can see why 09:45:51 <krinn> lisa gerrard is the lady, she also sing many movie tunes, like gladiator soundtrack 09:46:24 <SamanthaD> you know what question I hate? "What kind of music do you like?" 09:47:10 <krinn> oh it's easy for me, anything but !rap 09:47:16 <SamanthaD> haha 09:47:33 <SamanthaD> what about hip-hop or R&B? 09:47:43 <krinn> i like 09:47:48 <SamanthaD> me too 09:48:59 <SamanthaD> it's like "Well, earlier I was enjoying Prokofiev but now I'm listening to dubstep remixes" 09:49:10 <krinn> :D 09:49:25 <SamanthaD> ... on my headphones 09:49:35 <SamanthaD> for some reason dub makes people around me complain 09:50:02 <SamanthaD> wha... wha... wha... thumthumthumthumthumthum 09:50:03 *** kais58 [~kais58@cpc8-cwma7-2-0-cust113.7-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 09:50:23 <krinn> going to ear what dubstep is :) 09:50:34 <SamanthaD> haha, sec, link 09:50:45 <lugo> Start off with "Distance" :) 09:51:27 <SamanthaD> how did I not know about this "distance" thing!? 09:51:53 <krinn> well, i will keep my distance from that thing :P 09:52:04 <krinn> looks like rap without voice ^^ 09:52:12 <SamanthaD> nah, the beat gets funkier 09:52:27 <SamanthaD> that's more like D&B 09:52:42 <krinn> i like drum & bass 09:52:48 <SamanthaD> me too 09:53:21 <krinn> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dd8WjeK8riE top one! 09:56:32 <SamanthaD> bass! 09:57:44 <SamanthaD> I actually got introduced to electronica a long time via a MIDI sequencer :p 09:58:30 <SamanthaD> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i16V-SzExuk 09:58:38 <SamanthaD> that will get you more complaints, I guarantee it 09:58:48 <SamanthaD> but... if you're into it it's pretty darn good 09:59:08 <krinn> lol looks like amiga good old days mod 09:59:15 <SamanthaD> heheeeee 09:59:27 <krinn> lmao 4 tracks only 09:59:42 <SamanthaD> I think the sequencer I was using had unlimited tracks 10:00:24 <krinn> :) lookout doctor awesome 10:00:32 <SamanthaD> hehee 10:00:42 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-34-146.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 10:01:46 *** MatrixCL [~mielipuol@host-109-204-157-114.tp-fne.tampereenpuhelin.net] has joined #openttd 10:02:00 <SamanthaD> I think analog synthesizers are amazing 10:02:03 <SamanthaD> I wish I had one 10:02:16 <SamanthaD> "It's the size of a church organ and does two octaves!" 10:03:19 * krinn would be fine having a church, even without organ or analog synth 10:03:38 <SamanthaD> what would you do with it? 10:03:56 <krinn> play music as loud as the speakers could handle :) 10:04:07 <SamanthaD> haha! it's a plan! 10:04:56 <SamanthaD> you can use my amp 10:05:24 <krinn> love the reverb church have 10:05:44 <SamanthaD> I got a 100W amp a while ago when I got my new speakers thinking it would be a good idea. I used my multimeter on the leads a while ago and discovered I reach the threshold of pain around 10-15W :p 10:05:57 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:06:17 <krinn> :D 10:08:01 <SamanthaD> I think if I were to do it over again I'd get one of those absolutely tiny 20-or-so watt digital amps 10:08:43 <krinn> i think i can goes with a cathedral as well 10:08:57 <SamanthaD> they come with a bishop! 10:09:44 <krinn> another human, despite the status he think he have, so he can be kick out 10:10:21 <SamanthaD> oh come now! bishops can rock out just like the rest of us :3 10:10:43 <SamanthaD> and with their pointy hats they're epic when they head bob 10:11:17 <blathijs> SamanthaD: How do you measure that with a multimeter? Measure AC voltage and then to P = V^2 / R ? (with R = speaker impedance)? 10:12:37 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-213-220-193-253.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 10:12:49 <SamanthaD> blathijs: the method I used was to run a sinusoidal test tone through the speakers and measure voltage and amperage 10:13:29 <SamanthaD> which... admittedly is a flawed measurement 10:13:51 <peter1139> analogue synths are way expensive :( 10:13:55 <SamanthaD> they are 10:14:29 <SamanthaD> I have this fantasy of building a barrel organ in the attic 10:14:54 <SamanthaD> the console in the living room and the tubes horizontally mounted in the attic 10:15:05 <SamanthaD> my neighbors would hate me 10:15:17 <peter1139> heh 10:15:48 * peter1139 fiddles with xfce 10:15:54 <SamanthaD> like it? 10:16:00 <SamanthaD> I actually prefer it to Gnome2 10:16:12 <peter1139> that was quaint, coming back to find a xscreensaver prompt :) 10:16:18 <SamanthaD> I KNOW! 10:16:23 <peter1139> gnome 3... where you don't get to choose your screensaver anymore... 10:16:31 <SamanthaD> you can't 10:17:36 <blathijs> SamanthaD: Sounds like it would work :-) 10:17:50 <SamanthaD> blathijs: the organ in the attic? 10:18:08 <peter1139> hmm, how do i set the primary monitor in xfce 10:18:09 <blathijs> No, the power measurement on your speakers :-) 10:18:21 <SamanthaD> blathijs: oh right! 10:18:24 <blathijs> organ would be cool too :-p 10:18:48 <SamanthaD> peter1139: I'm honestly not sure... 10:19:05 <peter1139> i tried xrandr with --primary but no luck :S 10:19:12 <SamanthaD> peter1139: there has to be some way to do it... 10:19:51 <peter1139> oh balls, i turned off the left display, turned it on again, and now it's mirrored instead o_O 10:20:12 <SamanthaD> https://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?pid=25884 10:21:39 <SamanthaD> unfortunately, also, Debian froze about a week or two before XFCE 4.10 came out >.> 10:21:41 <peter1139> hee, that's freaky, left monitor is flipped horizontally 10:21:42 <SamanthaD> I'm still bitter about that 10:21:57 <SamanthaD> peter1139: check the displays panel 10:22:45 <peter1139> yeah that's where i am. seems pretty useless :( 10:23:00 <SamanthaD> yeah... sorry 'bout that 10:23:12 <SamanthaD> I hope you work through the multi-monitor blues because the DE is otherwise really swell 10:25:31 *** Midnightmyth [~quassel@93-167-84-102-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:26:05 <peter1139> hmm, can't test OTR in pidgin cos... nobody else cares, and just uses skype or facebook chat o_O 10:26:29 <SamanthaD> you could chat with me :p 10:26:44 <SamanthaD> I more-or-less bullied my friends into installing an OTR plugin :p 10:27:27 <peter1139> i can't get them to use xmpp either :( 10:27:38 <SamanthaD> mmhm 10:27:45 <SamanthaD> a lot more people use XMPP now that Google Chat uses it 10:27:58 <peter1139> except they're stopping that 10:28:05 <SamanthaD> THEY'RE WHAT?! 10:28:15 <SamanthaD> I thought they were just deemphisizing it 10:28:20 <SamanthaD> are you saying that my XMPP account is going to stop working?! 10:28:39 <peter1139> s2s is/will be stopped at least 10:28:49 <SamanthaD> those bastards! 10:29:00 <SamanthaD> ah well... I stopped using Google for websearches a long time ago 10:29:08 <SamanthaD> as far as I'm concerned they can go take a hike 10:29:25 <peter1139> android phones are so tied in to it :( 10:29:29 *** montalvo [~montalvo@macbook60.icrar.org] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 10:29:38 <SamanthaD> who said I use a cellphone? :p 10:29:46 <peter1139> most people do 10:30:09 <peter1139> thunar is about 1 million x faster than nautilus, interesting 10:30:24 <SamanthaD> instead of using a cellphone I sit down in my chair once a month and stare at a crisp 100 dollar bill that I wouldn't have otherwise have had ;) 10:30:40 <peter1139> ahh... my work pays for mine :p 10:30:43 <SamanthaD> hehe 10:32:10 <SamanthaD> I might consider a 100% FOSS cell phone 10:32:19 <peter1139> lol 10:32:19 <SamanthaD> but as of now that's kinda a pipe dream 11:23:50 *** TomyLobo [~foo@91-65-210-133-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Quit: Standby mode...] 11:33:49 *** dfox [~dfox@94.142.237.120] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:35:56 *** Elukka [~Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:42:31 *** fanioz [~fanioz@180.246.124.21] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:44:20 *** fanioz [~fanioz@180.246.124.21] has joined #openttd 11:59:12 *** Midnightmyth [~quassel@93-167-84-102-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has joined #openttd 11:59:46 *** dfox [~dfox@94.142.237.120] has joined #openttd 12:17:00 *** Ristovski [~rafael@ppp-seco11pa2-46-193-128.78.wb.wifirst.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:17:56 *** dell_ [~fanioz@180.246.124.21] has joined #openttd 12:24:27 *** fanioz [~fanioz@180.246.124.21] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:56:54 *** dfox [~dfox@94.142.237.120] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:57:17 *** TomyLobo [~foo@91-65-210-133-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #openttd 13:05:25 *** dfox [~dfox@94.142.237.120] has joined #openttd 13:07:46 *** dell_ [~fanioz@180.246.124.21] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:08:39 *** Pensacola [~quassel@phys9212.phys.tue.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:08:48 *** fanioz [~fanioz@180.246.124.21] has joined #openttd 13:14:24 *** dfox [~dfox@94.142.237.120] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:39:59 *** LordAro [~LordAro@host86-165-37-76.range86-165.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 13:40:02 *** Ristovski [~rafael@ppp-seco11pa2-46-193-128.78.wb.wifirst.net] has joined #openttd 13:42:08 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@89.137.75.224] has quit [] 13:44:27 *** MatrixCL2 [~mielipuol@host-109-204-157-114.tp-fne.tampereenpuhelin.net] has joined #openttd 13:46:25 *** MatrixCL [~mielipuol@host-109-204-157-114.tp-fne.tampereenpuhelin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:54:18 <planetmaker> looks like your railtype issue http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/5258 @ Eddi|zuHause ? 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Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 16:05:00 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 16:06:22 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 16:06:26 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 16:08:39 *** Aristide [~quassel@81.253.24.146] has joined #openttd 16:09:11 <Alberth> hi hi 16:12:48 *** George|2 [~George@212.113.107.39] has joined #openttd 16:12:48 *** George is now known as Guest1076 16:12:49 *** George|2 is now known as George 16:18:44 *** Guest1076 [~George@212.113.107.39] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:23:11 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f4ded.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 16:23:40 <fjb> Quak frosch123 16:23:43 <Alberth> quak 16:23:48 <Alberth> quak fjb! 16:23:57 <fjb> Moin Alberth 16:25:41 *** DanMacK [DanMacK@node-5615.tor.pppoe.execulink.com] has joined #openttd 16:25:42 <frosch123> moin :) 16:25:49 <DanMacK> Hey all 16:26:41 *** fanioz [~fanioz@180.246.124.21] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:26:54 <DanMacK> Andy ever around these parts lately? 16:27:24 <frosch123> @seen andythenorth 16:27:25 <DorpsGek> frosch123: andythenorth was last seen in #openttd 9 hours, 3 minutes, and 59 seconds ago: <andythenorth> so it's lomo? https://twitter.com/TycoonSim/status/360099362413617152/photo/1 16:27:40 <DanMacK> cool 16:27:50 <frosch123> usually he joins also in the evening 16:27:58 <frosch123> in 2 hours or so 16:28:31 <V453000> what :D brunswick = braunschweig? 16:28:37 <V453000> confused = me 16:28:47 <DanMacK> Cool, I've been so out of the loop it ain't funny 16:28:59 <V453000> is brunswick like an international name for it? 16:29:01 <V453000> pm? :D 16:30:53 *** Progman [~progman@p57A187F7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 16:31:41 <frosch123> V453000: the opposite 16:31:44 <frosch123> local dialect 16:32:01 <frosch123> oh both 16:32:07 <V453000> oh? 16:32:22 <frosch123> so, the local name and the english name match more with each other, than with the regular german name :p 16:32:49 <frosch123> engishl: brunswick, german: braunschweig, local: brunswiek 16:32:58 <V453000> :D 16:33:57 <fjb> Brunswiek is the old name from the midle age. It changed over time and became Braunschweig. 16:35:10 *** flaa [~flaa@89.100.79.103] has joined #openttd 16:37:05 *** krinn [~krinn@76.54.71.86.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:39:57 *** George is now known as Guest1081 16:39:59 *** George [~George@212.113.107.39] has joined #openttd 16:40:41 *** Aristide [~quassel@81.253.24.146] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:40:47 *** Aristide [~quassel@81.253.24.146] has joined #openttd 16:41:31 *** MatrixCL [~mielipuol@host-109-204-157-114.tp-fne.tampereenpuhelin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:42:04 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 16:42:07 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 16:46:19 *** Guest1081 [~George@212.113.107.39] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:47:44 *** heffer [felix@hyperion.fk.cx] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:52:47 *** flaa [~flaa@89.100.79.103] has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:52:51 <fjb> Oh, there are "new" new stations. 16:52:53 <Eddi|zuHause> V453000: how did that navi-project of yours turn out? 16:53:35 <V453000> project is fine, cant seem to contact smatz though 16:53:55 <planetmaker> :-( 16:55:45 <planetmaker> you tried his mobile number? and land line one? 16:57:40 *** heffer [felix@hyperion.fk.cx] has joined #openttd 16:58:54 * planetmaker wonders whether heffer is in for a spontaneous weekend trip :D 17:01:57 <Eddi|zuHause> http://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/20130725.png 17:02:29 *** Pol [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 17:16:26 *** tocasz [~pty2@bl9-250-156.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 17:16:28 *** tocasz [~pty2@bl9-250-156.dsl.telepac.pt] has left #openttd [] 17:17:47 *** Aristide [~quassel@81.253.24.146] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:22:15 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i5387A207.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 17:25:42 *** TrueBrain [~truebrain@ip82-139-82-247.lijbrandt.net] has quit [Quit: reboot] 17:35:33 *** TrueBrain [~truebrain@ip82-139-82-247.lijbrandt.net] has joined #openttd 17:45:25 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r25627 /trunk/src/lang (brazilian_portuguese.txt vietnamese.txt) (2013-07-25 17:45:16 UTC) 17:45:26 <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 17:45:27 <DorpsGek> brazilian_portuguese - 62 changes by Tucalipe 17:45:28 <DorpsGek> vietnamese - 35 changes by myquartz 17:53:11 *** Progman [~progman@p57A187F7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:12:18 *** abchirk_ [~abchirk@g226182044.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 18:14:19 *** Jomann [~abchirk@g226176122.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 18:15:06 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 18:15:10 <Wolf01> o/ 18:15:30 <Alberth> hi hi 18:22:04 *** SamanthaD [~SamanthaD@c-98-248-25-134.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:24:55 <V453000> hm, thing: I have a station long 5, train long 5 too (original trains so consisting of 8/8 units), I have a train with orders to go into that station twice in a row, both set on <far end>. How is it possible that the train does not reverse after each visit, if it should have been at the <far end> already before? 18:25:07 <V453000> aka it always just moves like 1px forward to revisit the station 18:25:22 <V453000> never departs from the station, only keeps turning around 18:26:23 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-213-220-193-253.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 18:26:52 <planetmaker> it always travels to the far end from the POV of its current position :-) 18:27:07 <planetmaker> as it's at one end, it turns. And the notices "oh, I'm at the end" 18:27:27 <V453000> it stays at the one end without turning 18:27:40 <V453000> and as both train and station are equally long, it shouldnt even happen 18:29:26 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm not sure about the current implementation, but in Ye Olden Times the stopping position was more around 12/16 of the tile than at the end 18:29:41 *** Pol [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:30:07 <Eddi|zuHause> so from there you have about 3 further stopping positions (where the engine slightly overlaps to the next tile) 18:30:34 <V453000> o_O 18:31:25 <Eddi|zuHause> then the train would reverse every 4 stops 18:31:48 <V453000> but why :d 18:31:59 <V453000> it should logically reverse after 1 stop if it at <far end> 18:32:31 <Eddi|zuHause> if it were the "really far end", the engine would always stick out of the platform 18:32:32 <frosch123> Eddi|zuHause: that was fixed i believe, at least the bounding boxes no longer move when reversing 18:32:51 <Eddi|zuHause> frosch123: i think you're talking about a different thing here 18:34:10 *** Supercheese [~Password4@98.145.153.126] has joined #openttd 18:48:06 <Alberth> hi super cheese 18:48:27 <planetmaker> nom nom 18:50:09 <Supercheese> Mmm, cheese 18:51:33 * Supercheese makes breakfast 18:53:51 *** Progman [~progman@p57A187F7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 19:02:54 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 19:15:57 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-40-118.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 19:21:35 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:30:29 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-213-220-193-253.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:35:13 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-213-220-193-253.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 19:39:34 *** ntoskrnl [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:49:34 *** Supercheese [~Password4@98.145.153.126] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 22.0/20130618035212]] 20:23:52 *** KritiK [~Maxim@0001264a.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 20:27:55 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@i59F6DD41.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 20:31:37 *** Aristide [~quassel@37.175.220.102] has joined #openttd 20:34:55 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6B78F.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:41:29 *** MatrixCL [~mielipuol@host-109-204-157-114.tp-fne.tampereenpuhelin.net] has joined #openttd 20:43:06 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-213-220-193-253.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 20:43:07 *** NeuhNeuh [~quassel@37.175.220.102] has joined #openttd 20:45:09 <fjb> I need a flat habour for rivers... 20:46:37 <Eddi|zuHause> yes. 20:46:44 <Eddi|zuHause> NewDocks 20:47:10 *** Aristide [~quassel@37.175.220.102] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:54:00 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@89.137.75.224] has quit [] 21:07:09 *** flaa [~flaa@89.100.79.103] has joined #openttd 21:22:49 <LordAro> Rubidium/whoever: there is a typo in the 1.3.2-RC2 changelog: managable -> manageable 21:22:57 *** Progman [~progman@p57A187F7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:27:14 *** DanMacK [DanMacK@node-5615.tor.pppoe.execulink.com] has quit [] 21:30:22 *** TomyLobo [~foo@91-65-210-133-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Quit: Standby mode...] 21:30:41 *** permagreen [~donovan@204.195.27.175] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 21:30:42 <Eddi|zuHause> is there an easy "hg" way of separating several hunks of the same file into different commits? 21:32:24 <frosch123> i usually just split the diff 21:32:45 <frosch123> hg qnew, hg qpop, edit, hg qimport, hg qpush, hg qfinish 21:34:40 <Eddi|zuHause> that's about what i just did, just i used hg diff, edit, patch -p1 -R, commit, patch -p1 21:37:32 <frosch123> night 21:37:35 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f4ded.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: be yourself, except: if you have the opportunity to be a unicorn, then be a unicorn] 21:38:38 *** fanioz [~fanioz@180.246.124.21] has joined #openttd 21:42:06 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc22-aztw25-2-0-cust272.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 21:42:09 <andythenorth> o/ 21:42:17 *** permagreen [~donovan@204.195.27.175] has joined #openttd 21:42:32 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i5387A207.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: http://bit.ly/nkczDT] 21:46:02 <Wolf01> 'night 21:46:07 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 21:51:20 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc22-aztw25-2-0-cust272.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 21:56:09 *** fjb is now known as Guest1110 21:56:10 *** fjb [~frank@000158aa.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 21:59:30 *** LordAro [~LordAro@host86-165-37-76.range86-165.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:00:01 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 22:03:15 *** Guest1110 [~frank@000158aa.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:14:19 *** flaa [~flaa@89.100.79.103] has quit [Quit: leaving] 22:19:09 *** dell_ [~fanioz@180.246.124.21] has joined #openttd 22:25:20 *** MNIM [~mBuntu@ip5452ffad.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has joined #openttd 22:25:21 *** fanioz [~fanioz@180.246.124.21] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:37:41 *** NeuhNeuh [~quassel@37.175.220.102] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:40:59 *** Aristide [~quassel@37.175.220.102] has joined #openttd 23:01:40 *** SamanthaD [~SamanthaD@c-98-248-25-134.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 23:01:56 *** SamanthaD [~SamanthaD@c-98-248-25-134.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:02:01 *** strohi [~smoofi@cpe-0018f841fb5c.ip-pool.rftonline.net] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 23:02:03 *** strohalm [~smoofi@cpe-0018f841fb5c.ip-pool.rftonline.net] has joined #openttd 23:09:04 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has quit [] 23:12:23 *** Aristide [~quassel@37.175.220.102] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:22:13 *** Ristovski [~rafael@ppp-seco11pa2-46-193-128.78.wb.wifirst.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:25:34 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-213-220-193-253.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 23:28:39 *** dfox [~dfox@94.142.237.120] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:29:56 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@i59F6DD41.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:33:48 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:43:31 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p57BD5CEE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 23:43:31 *** fjb [~frank@000158aa.user.oftc.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:43:57 *** fjb [~frank@000158aa.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 23:49:51 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD5CEE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:57:02 *** Elukka [~Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 23:59:22 *** pugi [~pugi@dyndsl-091-096-054-043.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit []