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00:00:05 <wakou2> No, temperate 00:00:51 <NeuhNeuh> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIbW0BTNcrU <3 00:01:18 <krinn> temperate town need nothing 00:01:46 <wakou2> this one needs food! 00:01:55 <krinn> so you're playing with a GS 00:03:23 <wakou2> http://wstaw.org/m/2013/07/28/plasma-desktopuX6889.png 00:03:37 <wakou2> No, no script 00:04:03 <krinn> i don't know then, but wiki say temperate = no needs 00:04:08 <NeuhNeuh> =o 00:04:11 <NeuhNeuh> KDE <3 00:04:18 <NeuhNeuh> wakou2: You use widget for upload pictures ? 00:04:22 <NeuhNeuh> :D 00:04:28 <wakou2> Yes 00:04:46 <NeuhNeuh> ^^ 00:07:13 <krinn> http://wiki.openttd.org/Climates#Temperate 00:07:28 <krinn> Unlike the sub-climates, there are no requirements of food or water for any towns to grow 00:07:58 <krinn> so you're playing with a script or not temperate, one or the other no? 00:08:35 *** fjb_mobile is now known as Guest1335 00:08:35 *** Guest1335 [~frank@p4FC6014B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:08:36 *** fjb_mobile [~frank@p4FC6014B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 00:10:07 <wakou2> krinn: been a while since I started the game... (year 2050) but no script... 00:10:46 <krinn> well, i think the sub towns ask food & water, but don't tell growth rate even if you provide them 00:10:49 <wakou2> & temperate climate (I think, just some snow on hill tops) 00:10:57 <krinn> so it must be a GS, i think it's one by zuu 00:11:17 <wakou2> If I look in newgrf settings? 00:11:33 <krinn> no but if you look at script 00:11:44 <wakou2> .. no no script loaded 00:12:47 <wakou2> http://wstaw.org/m/2013/07/28/plasma-desktopFg6889.png 00:12:50 *** Aristide [~quassel@37.175.206.44] has joined #openttd 00:13:40 *** fjb_mobile is now known as Guest1336 00:13:41 *** fjb_mobile [~frank@p4FC6014B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 00:13:48 <wakou2> Shall I post a .sav somewhere? 00:14:19 <Aristide> ... 00:14:23 *** Guest1336 [~frank@p4FC6014B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:14:24 <Aristide> Bad connection x) 00:14:27 * Aristide slap phone 00:14:43 <krinn> no, even with a GS your screenshot says growing every 76days 00:14:52 <krinn> so it grow, every 76 days :) 00:15:26 *** Aristide [~quassel@37.175.206.44] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:15:40 *** Aristide [~quassel@37.175.206.44] has joined #openttd 00:15:54 <Aristide> Now the USB Cable ... 00:17:03 *** NeuhNeuh [~quassel@37.175.206.44] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:18:00 <wakou2> krinn: Where did you get the 76 days? It says town is NOT growing 00:18:29 <krinn> http://wstaw.org/m/2013/07/28/plasma-desktopuX6889.png 00:18:45 <krinn> it says food deliverd, grow every 76 days 00:19:16 <krinn> and lol yes, town don't like you 00:19:31 <wakou2> but, then it dies not grow..and says food needed.. 00:20:11 <wakou2> http://wstaw.org/m/2013/07/28/plasma-desktopWI6889.png 00:22:04 <krinn> read the subartic part of town growth 00:22:22 <krinn> even accepting food it may not grow 00:23:56 <wakou2> Hmm not sub arctic, not above snow line, and 1,000 tonnes per month delivered. 00:24:22 <krinn> not temperate, as temperate have 0 needs 00:25:16 <wakou2> http://wstaw.org/m/2013/07/28/plasma-desktopPm6889.png 00:25:34 <wakou2> That is february. NOT sub arctic. 00:26:15 <krinn> The most striking feature of Sub-Arctic is the snow above a certain line 00:26:18 <krinn> so got snow ? 00:27:11 *** KritiK [~Maxim@0001264a.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:29:35 <wakou2> hmm yes, but only dust on tops. The town in question is not above the snow line. 00:30:08 <wakou2> I am going to put as much food as possible in there and see if that helps... 00:30:31 <krinn> well, it won't do anything bad anyway 00:33:17 *** NeuhNeuh [~quassel@37.175.206.44] has joined #openttd 00:39:14 *** Aristide [~quassel@37.175.206.44] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:40:41 <wakou2> http://wstaw.org/m/2013/07/28/plasma-desktopjh6889.png 00:41:11 <wakou2> Doubled the food, planted max trees on every avaiable square 00:43:34 <krinn> http://wiki.openttd.org/Town_growth#Tips_for_Town_Growth 00:44:50 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-213-220-193-253.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 00:46:39 <wakou2> krinn: yes, done that, built roads in a grid, but can't build more stations becaus of rating 00:47:40 <krinn> then fix your rating 00:49:19 *** Midnightmyth [~quassel@93-167-84-102-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:49:35 <wakou2> can't I have done everything, funded building, advertising, funded roads, planted trees etc etc 00:51:34 <krinn> corrupt the town, it's the fastest way 00:52:08 <krinn> and if you can't, you must wait, town rating grow slowly : go read more about handling rating 00:53:20 <wakou2> :) 00:53:37 <wakou2> I'm going to bed now, thans foe your help. 00:53:54 <wakou2> Tomorrow I bribe the Mayor! 00:54:15 <krinn> or do another town, it's sometime easier 00:54:22 <krinn> going bed too 00:54:31 *** krinn [~krinn@76.54.71.86.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:54:39 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 01:03:30 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-018-105.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit [] 01:05:10 *** Aristide [~quassel@37.175.206.44] has joined #openttd 01:07:04 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@i59F6D21C.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:09:21 *** NeuhNeuh [~quassel@37.175.206.44] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:11:37 *** wakou2 [~stephen@host86-150-25-188.range86-150.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 01:12:50 *** Aristide [~quassel@37.175.206.44] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:26:42 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Bye] 01:35:53 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-213-220-193-253.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! 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quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:42:20 *** fjb_mobile [~frank@p4FF2E79B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 06:45:20 <dihedral> fjb: authentication problems? :-P 06:49:04 *** fjb_mobile is now known as Guest1375 06:49:05 *** fjb_mobile [~frank@p4FF2E79B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 06:49:21 *** Guest1375 [~frank@p4FF2E79B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:49:58 <dihedral> TrueBrain: ping :-P 06:55:40 *** tst [~id@pool-77-222-102-194.is74.ru] has joined #openttd 06:56:01 *** tst [~id@pool-77-222-102-194.is74.ru] has quit [] 06:57:16 *** fjb_mobile is now known as Guest1377 06:57:16 *** Guest1377 [~frank@p4FF2E79B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:57:17 *** fjb_mobile [~frank@p4FF2E79B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 06:57:35 <Terkhen> good morning 06:57:41 *** Tom_Soft [~id@pool-77-222-102-194.is74.ru] has joined #openttd 06:59:29 <dihedral> Hello Terkhen 07:01:22 <Tom_Soft> Hello! 07:01:23 <planetmaker> good morning 07:01:25 <planetmaker> dihedral, you can come over for breakfast now :-) 07:02:15 <dihedral> i was hoping to hear if i can pickup ln 07:03:05 *** fjb_mobile is now known as Guest1378 07:03:06 *** fjb_mobile [~frank@p4FF2E79B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 07:03:58 *** DDR [~chatzilla@154.20.133.76] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:05:09 *** Guest1378 [~frank@p4FF2E79B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:05:28 <__ln__> gm 07:05:39 <dihedral> Yay 07:06:40 <dihedral> I pick you up 07:06:44 <__ln__> i'll pack my stuff and check out, that'll take less than 30 mins i hope 07:09:16 *** fjb_mobile is now known as Guest1379 07:09:17 *** fjb_mobile [~frank@p4FF2E79B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 07:11:08 *** Guest1379 [~frank@p4FF2E79B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:17:14 *** fjb_mobile is now known as Guest1382 07:17:14 *** Guest1382 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<Wolf01> hello 08:50:58 *** LordAro [~LordAro@host81-158-56-249.range81-158.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 08:51:17 <LordAro> heyo 08:51:45 *** fjb_mobile is now known as Guest1408 08:51:46 *** fjb_mobile [~frank@p4FF2E79B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 08:52:00 <Wolf01> hello Aro 08:52:07 *** Guest1406 [~frank@p4FF2E79B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:52:38 <LordAro> hi wolf 08:54:07 *** Guest1408 [~frank@p4FF2E79B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:59:45 *** fjb_mobile is now known as Guest1411 08:59:45 *** fjb_mobile [~frank@p4FF2E79B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 08:59:49 *** Guest1411 [~frank@p4FF2E79B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:02:28 *** TomyLobo [~foo@91-65-210-133-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #openttd 09:07:39 *** wakou2 [~stephen@host86-150-25-188.range86-150.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 09:09:45 *** fjb_mobile is now known as 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*** fjb_mobile [~frank@p4FF2E79B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 09:50:19 *** Guest1419 [~frank@p4FF2E79B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:54:44 *** fjb_mobile is now known as Guest1420 09:54:45 *** fjb_mobile [~frank@p4FF2E79B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 09:57:03 *** Guest1420 [~frank@p4FF2E79B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:06:53 <LordAro> right, that's it. rebuilding system time 10:07:05 <LordAro> see you all on the other side (hopefully) 10:07:27 *** LordAro [~LordAro@host81-158-56-249.range81-158.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:11:53 *** Aristide [~quassel@37.175.217.118] has joined #openttd 10:29:10 *** andythenorth [~andytheno@213.205.241.163] has joined #openttd 10:29:28 <andythenorth> Moin 10:32:02 <Aristide> andythenorth: Hi 10:36:08 *** SamanthaD [~SamanthaD@c-98-248-25-134.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 10:36:32 * SamanthaD waves to people 10:37:25 * Aristide push SamanthaD o/ 10:37:42 <SamanthaD> hey Artistide 10:38:12 <Aristide> :) 10:38:49 *** Tom_Soft [~id@pool-77-222-102-194.is74.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:39:11 <SamanthaD> so, been quiet? 10:39:12 *** Tom_Soft [~id@pool-77-222-102-194.is74.ru] has joined #openttd 10:40:01 <Aristide> SamanthaD: No, its too hot here :( 10:40:17 *** Ristovski [~rafael@ppp-seco11pa2-46-193-128.78.wb.wifirst.net] has joined #openttd 10:40:30 <Aristide> My fan has turned all night 10:40:52 <SamanthaD> Ah yeah, I know how that works 10:41:10 <SamanthaD> I usually leave a fan on at night unless it's in the middle of winter 10:41:12 <SamanthaD> and even then sometimes 10:41:17 <SamanthaD> a small fan, pointed away from me 10:41:26 <SamanthaD> (I can't sleep without the noise) 10:42:15 *** fjb_mobile is now known as Guest1428 10:42:15 *** Guest1428 [~frank@p4FF2E79B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:42:16 *** fjb_mobile [~frank@p4FF2E79B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 10:43:30 <peter1139> same here 10:43:36 <peter1139> except not a small fan 10:43:36 <Aristide> x) 10:43:44 <Aristide> Good appetit o/ 10:43:44 <SamanthaD> HA! 10:44:14 <peter1139> using a 2' fan last night 10:44:15 <SamanthaD> we have those new digital electric meters here so I was playing with it the other day 10:44:28 <SamanthaD> our attic fan when turned on full blast draws 1.5kW 10:44:34 <SamanthaD> how's that for "not little"? 10:44:38 <peter1139> :D 10:44:52 <peter1139> i think mine is only 200W or so 10:45:15 <SamanthaD> it's this four foot diameter fan with a motor as big as my head 10:45:17 <SamanthaD> I love it so much 10:45:19 <peter1139> my little a/c unit can't cope with the heat :( 10:45:30 <peter1139> heh nice 10:45:57 <SamanthaD> only run it about 30 seconds to flush the attic of hot air 10:46:26 *** Midnightmyth [~quassel@93-167-84-102-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has joined #openttd 10:46:49 <Wolf01> I'm fine here, closed in my little room, in front of 2 23" monitors, playing a game, without fans, and the floor is lava 10:47:03 <SamanthaD> the floor is always lava! 10:47:28 *** fjb_mobile is now known as Guest1429 10:47:29 *** fjb_mobile [~frank@p4FF2E79B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 10:47:31 <SamanthaD> am I the only one who doesn't dual-head her monitors?! 10:47:38 <Xaroth|Work> yes 10:47:40 <peter1139> apparently 10:47:46 <TWerkhoven> pretty much 10:47:56 <SamanthaD> I always use laptops though... 10:48:03 <peter1139> well that's different 10:48:09 <peter1139> although you can get dual screen laptops 10:48:20 <Xaroth|Work> or hook a screen to a laptop 10:48:33 <peter1139> bah, why are thinkpads so expensive in the uk? :( 10:48:51 <SamanthaD> actually, a DIY project I've been contemplating has been to modify an old laptop whose motherboard is fried and connect up the monitor to its former video-out and use it as a second head for my laptop! 10:49:25 *** Guest1429 [~frank@p4FF2E79B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:49:52 <SamanthaD> if any of you guys want to manufacture something like that remember: you heard it here. send me a couple freebies ;) 10:51:46 <SamanthaD> peter1139: it used to be that you could buy a thinkpad without an operating system but they seemed to have stopped offering that. Got 200 bucks off a computer doing that once! 10:52:34 <peter1139> funny how they call 1366x768 HD 10:52:37 <peter1139> i call it crappy 10:52:51 *** Aristide [~quassel@37.175.217.118] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:52:51 <SamanthaD> well... it's technically HD as far as TVs are concerned... 10:52:57 <peter1139> stupid ;( 10:53:11 <SamanthaD> I don't think I'd want anything higher than that on a laptop though 10:53:20 <SamanthaD> I prefer miniature laptops 10:53:21 <peter1139> £30 for the 1600x900 upgrade though 10:53:50 <SamanthaD> ... could be worth it 10:53:53 <SamanthaD> what size monitor? 10:53:56 <peter1139> 14" 10:54:04 <SamanthaD> ah, yes, worth it 10:54:12 <SamanthaD> <-- uses 12" monitors typically 10:54:30 <SamanthaD> I wouldn't want a 1600x900 12" 10:54:32 <SamanthaD> I'd go blind 10:54:33 <peter1139> meh, can't afford it :p 10:55:18 <peter1139> need to convince my work to get me one 10:57:05 <SamanthaD> For me I'd just like a more powerful processor 10:57:25 <SamanthaD> I bought an AMD Fusion laptop *right* when they first came out 10:57:27 <peter1139> hmm, X230, 12.5"... 10:57:33 *** fjb_mobile [~frank@p4FF2E79B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:57:39 <peter1139> wonder what HD vs Premium HD gives you 10:57:42 <SamanthaD> it was supposed to do a bunch of nifty stuff when it comes to multimedia 10:57:43 <peter1139> both 1366x768 10:57:57 <peter1139> yeah right 10:57:58 <SamanthaD> what they didn't mention was that it needed a bunch of fancy microcode and the microcode is buggy as sin 10:58:23 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i528C368E.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 10:59:07 <wakou2> Hallo guys.... Please help me 'grow' this town... (Tearing hair out here....) 10:59:10 *** andythenorth [~andytheno@213.205.241.163] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:59:14 <SamanthaD> next computer I get is going to have 2GHz quad cores with hyperthreading 10:59:15 <wakou2> http://wstaw.org/m/2013/07/28/plasma-desktopVU6850.png 10:59:17 <SamanthaD> accept no substitutes 10:59:29 <SamanthaD> hey wakou2 10:59:55 <peter1139> wow that's ugly 11:00:00 <wakou2> I have funded new buildings (twice) planted zillions of trees, funded road repairs 11:00:18 <wakou2> It has about 2,000 tonnes food p/m 11:00:20 <SamanthaD> wakou2: road repairs don't grow buildings. all that does is deny road vehicle use to your competitors (and you) 11:00:23 <peter1139> add more (road) stations 11:00:37 <peter1139> (and use them) 11:00:40 <wakou2> Can't add stns, becuase I am 'Appaling' 11:00:51 <SamanthaD> wakou2: food doesn't cause growth. Food is needed every month for towns above the snow line but what grows towns is passengers and mail! 11:01:14 <SamanthaD> wakou2: a borderline-cheating way to raise your rating is to clear forest and re-plant it! 11:01:16 <peter1139> yeah food just allows it to grow 11:01:28 <SamanthaD> yup 11:01:43 <SamanthaD> you need a little bit of food to allow it to grow but what actually grows the town is passengers and mail! 11:02:08 <SamanthaD> wakou2: what graphic set are you using, by the way? 11:02:15 <wakou2> It has lots of passengers, and regular mail 11:02:31 <wakou2> ?? errmm z-base?? 11:02:34 <peter1139> zbase i guess 11:02:38 <SamanthaD> ah, I see 11:02:44 *** Aristide [~quassel@37.175.217.118] has joined #openttd 11:02:47 <SamanthaD> wakou2: is it a town or a city? 11:03:02 <wakou2> 'city' (I think) 11:03:08 <peter1139> meh, £1752.99 for this X230 i specced out :p 11:03:19 <SamanthaD> that's weird, it should almost be growing on its own then... 11:03:19 <peter1139> it says city in the town window 11:03:30 <wakou2> peter1139: Yes 11:03:56 <SamanthaD> wakou2: oh! I can think of one reason. Are you doing something so as to insure that food is delivered EVERY month? 11:04:35 <peter1139> (ah, premium hd is ips... that's another £40 needed) 11:04:38 <wakou2> ? I have put as much food in as I have available..... 11:05:19 <SamanthaD> wakou2: the amount of food isn't important. The important part is that it is regular. What you ought to do is to 'transfer' it to the station and then use trucks to deliver it into the city center. 11:05:20 <wakou2> 7 trains, 260 tonnes of food, full 11:05:56 <wakou2> Hmmm, can't build station to x fer, as I am appalling 11:06:03 <SamanthaD> wakou2: unless you're using cargodist in which case you should just add a truck that runs on an each-month timetable between the station and the city center 11:06:07 *** fjb_mobile [~frank@p3EE3EE1E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 11:06:19 <SamanthaD> wakou2: demolish the forests and re-plant the trees! 11:06:53 <wakou2> How far from city centre does that work for? 11:07:23 <SamanthaD> I've come to the conclusion that the city councils are a cross between environmentalist hippies and early adopters: they cherish trees but they prefer new ones 11:07:36 <SamanthaD> wakou2: oh, it just needs to service the city 11:07:50 <SamanthaD> your train station is close enough 11:08:13 <SamanthaD> what you're trying to do is ensure that it always has food delivered each month 11:08:33 <SamanthaD> please note that I *HATE* that cities don't stockpile 11:08:37 <SamanthaD> must... patch 11:09:18 <wakou2> It does, about 5 trains per month 11:09:27 <SamanthaD> ah... then it should be fine 11:09:34 <SamanthaD> how many passenger trains/buses per month? 11:10:34 * peter1139 ponders playing this game 11:11:03 <SamanthaD> what game? 11:11:11 <peter1139> this openttd thing 11:11:15 <SamanthaD> haha! 11:11:23 <SamanthaD> yeah, we kinda just sit around here and hang out, don't we? 11:11:43 <SamanthaD> wakou2: how many passenger vehicles per month? 11:11:44 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6D21C.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 11:12:16 <Aristide> -12 11:12:31 *** Brumi [~quassel@78-131-41-191.pool.hdsnet.hu] has joined #openttd 11:12:43 <wakou2> Lots, dunno how to get a figure, except by counting manually.. 11:13:07 <Aristide> wakou2: Click on train 11:13:35 <wakou2> but the town is served by..5 large trains, all always full 11:13:45 <wakou2> Aristide: and hen? 11:13:50 <wakou2> = then 11:14:06 <Aristide> wakou2: You have many values about train, But I don't know if count of passengers is display xD 11:14:35 <wakou2> each train has 420 passengers 11:14:41 <SamanthaD> Artistide: Yes it is, in the cargoes pane you can see how full each carriage is 11:15:39 <Aristide> SamanthaD: Ok 11:15:49 <Aristide> You can estimate count of passengers 11:16:28 <SamanthaD> Aristide: Also, you can watch it unload going 100% -- 85% -- ect... 11:16:58 *** Aristide [~quassel@37.175.217.118] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:17:01 <wakou2> http://wstaw.org/m/2013/07/28/bigstn2.png 11:17:12 <wakou2> So I blow up all these trees and replant? 11:17:14 *** Aristide [~quassel@37.175.217.118] has joined #openttd 11:17:16 <SamanthaD> yup! 11:17:23 <wakou2> OK.... 11:17:25 <Aristide> ... 11:17:25 <SamanthaD> might want to blow up a couple more while you're at it 11:17:42 <wakou2> If that does not work, I will blow up the town! 11:17:46 <SamanthaD> if you blow up too few all you do is waste money since you just need to blow up more (and blowing up trees annoys them more than planting trees) 11:17:49 <wakou2> (Or bribe?) 11:17:57 <SamanthaD> this way is cheaper and safer 11:18:36 <wakou2> OK, getting the bombs out.. :) 11:22:45 <wakou2> Lols..... 11:23:05 <wakou2> WHAT HAVE YOU DONE! http://wstaw.org/m/2013/07/28/plasma-desktopGV6850.png 11:23:06 <SamanthaD> did it work? 11:23:18 <SamanthaD> I love doing that 11:23:24 <SamanthaD> I feel very... corporate 11:23:44 <SamanthaD> corrupting the local authority AND destroying the environment at the same time! 11:25:22 <wakou2> http://wstaw.org/m/2013/07/28/plasma-desktopEB6850.png 11:25:31 <wakou2> Yes!! Now rated 'good' 11:26:22 *** Brumi [~quassel@78-131-41-191.pool.hdsnet.hu] has quit [] 11:26:55 <SamanthaD> n_n 11:26:57 <SamanthaD> bus time! 11:27:26 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 11:30:27 <wakou2> :) three new stations/depots, buses and mail.... Town now growing! 11:30:41 <wakou2> TY Samantha and Aristide! 11:30:55 *** fjb_mobile [~frank@p3EE3EE1E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:31:10 <Aristide> SamanthaD: ^^ 11:31:16 <Aristide> wakou2: No problemo 11:31:34 <SamanthaD> yay! 11:31:40 <Aristide> :) 11:31:53 <Aristide> I like buses in Lyon 11:32:09 <SamanthaD> I always run buses if, for nothing else, growing towns 11:32:36 <SamanthaD> though... often I have been finding myself making "muni" lines instead 11:32:45 <SamanthaD> little local trains 11:33:07 <Aristide> Train are too expensive in France 11:33:28 <Aristide> For 30km, in bus : 2â¬, in train : 4â¬20 ... For same travel 11:33:54 <Aristide> For Lyon > Paris : 76â¬Â x) 11:33:57 <SamanthaD> same here, too 11:34:08 <SamanthaD> I often travel about the US on buses 11:34:09 <Aristide> x) 11:34:29 <SamanthaD> from SF to LA by bus is about 40 bucks, by train its 70 11:34:48 <SamanthaD> also, the train is slower (somehow) 11:34:53 <Aristide> x) 11:35:06 <Aristide> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c2/2259_Citelis18_920_TCL_Vieux-Lyon.jpg/1024px-2259_Citelis18_920_TCL_Vieux-Lyon.jpg SamanthaD 11:35:11 <SamanthaD> though... it's more comfortable so it's actually worth it *IF* I have the money 11:35:22 <SamanthaD> oh, city buses! 11:35:23 <Aristide> Lyon has bought 80 Citelis 18 at August 21th 2011 11:35:24 <SamanthaD> yeah, those too 11:35:29 <Aristide> :3 11:35:48 <SamanthaD> except we have a couple really cheap local trains here 11:35:57 <Aristide> SamanthaD: "Cars du RhÃŽne" have a good vehicles too 11:35:59 <SamanthaD> SF Bay area 11:36:20 <SamanthaD> though... Caltrain and ACT are *NOT* cheap 11:36:40 <SamanthaD> last time I looked a monthly pass on the Capitol Corridor was almost a hundred bucks 11:36:45 <SamanthaD> or was it more... 11:36:49 * SamanthaD goes to look it up 11:36:51 <Aristide> Mercedes Intouro <3 11:37:04 <Aristide> :o 11:37:19 <peter1139> here this is no competition between buses and trains 11:37:25 <peter1139> -this+there 11:37:29 <Aristide> xD 11:37:44 <peter1139> at the end of the line so trains only go one direction, buses handle the rest 11:39:06 <Aristide> http://tecelyon.info/modules/td-galerie/imgs/20100619214344-1.jpg <3 11:39:11 <SamanthaD> yup... a ten-ride ticket from San Jose to Oakland is a hundred bucks 11:39:15 <SamanthaD> and that's ONE CITY OVER 11:39:22 <SamanthaD> that's an hours drive on the highway 11:40:14 <peter1139> public transport gets stupid when there's more then 1 person travelling in a group anyway 11:40:26 <peter1139> car is always cheaper then 11:40:33 <Aristide> Yes 11:41:04 <Aristide> Many companies can offer reductions when you are 4 or more 11:41:10 <Aristide> But car is cheaper x) 11:41:12 <SamanthaD> San Jose to Fremont is 12 bucks by train. By bus it's 6. 11:41:20 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 11:41:29 <Aristide> In Lyon, a simple ticket (1h) cost 1â¬70 11:41:40 <__ln__> not when the ticket price doesn't increase at all with more persons 11:42:13 <SamanthaD> that being said... there's always freight train ;) 11:42:18 <wakou2> Lols @ un Francais complaining about price of public transport...! 11:42:19 <Aristide> 1â¬30 when you are 10 11:42:29 <Aristide> 1â¬30 per personn ... 11:42:41 <Aristide> person* 11:42:43 <wakou2> Come to UK Aristide! Price of train or bus is just ridiculous! 11:42:44 <SamanthaD> freight trains are free! 11:42:54 <Aristide> wakou2: I don't live in UK 11:43:03 <Aristide> I don't know tarifications in other countrys 11:43:11 <Aristide> pricing* 11:43:12 <Aristide> Sorry 11:43:25 <wakou2> In UK, poss 3x price compared to France 11:43:39 <Aristide> oO' 11:43:53 <peter1139> £20 return to london from here isn't that bad 11:44:10 <peter1139> still more expensive than driving and parking, heh 11:44:23 <Aristide> x) 11:44:40 <wakou2> My home to London = 50km and £15/20e 11:44:41 <Aristide> When you buy a ticket in Lyon, you can use TCL's parkings without pay more 11:44:53 *** andythenorth [~andytheno@cpc22-aztw25-2-0-cust272.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 11:45:04 <wakou2> Where are you peter1139? 11:46:46 <peter1139> aylesbury 11:46:57 <peter1139> so ... 80km 11:47:52 <Aristide> So, and information phone number is free 11:49:30 <Aristide> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eL1x99sOLQ4 <3 11:49:52 <Aristide> I like this subway line 11:49:59 <Aristide> Rise : 7.50% 11:57:04 <Aristide> Hm ... 11:57:39 <Aristide> Go shower \o/ 11:58:14 <SamanthaD> wow... 7.5% that's steep 12:00:56 <Aristide> SamanthaD: Its a old funicular 12:01:33 <Aristide> He was replaced by a subway 12:13:38 *** Devroush [~dennis@91.181.137.69] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:15:43 <peter1139> someone is cooking bacon, and it's not me :( 12:19:05 *** NeuhNeuh [~quassel@37.175.217.118] has joined #openttd 12:21:00 *** andythenorth is now known as Guest1442 12:21:01 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc22-aztw25-2-0-cust272.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 12:21:48 <andythenorth> does the pathfinder attempt to keep trains out of platforms that are too short? 12:23:15 *** Aristide [~quassel@37.175.217.118] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:24:22 <SamanthaD> andythenorth: I'm not sure. A good way to try it would be to build a two platform station with a long-enough platform on the siding and a too-short platform on the main line 12:24:42 <andythenorth> better would be to read the code ;) 12:24:56 <SamanthaD> experimenting is easier than untangling code ;) 12:25:11 <andythenorth> coincidence vs. cause 12:25:19 <SamanthaD> run it many times ;) 12:25:37 <andythenorth> it already looks like train pathfinder prefers a platform of adequate length 12:26:09 <SamanthaD> heh... I suppose that's what you get when you study empirical sciences instead of comp-sci in college ;) 12:29:11 <andythenorth> is it expected that cdist will load cargo back to it's origin point? 12:30:02 <SamanthaD> if the origin point accepts the cargo, then yes, I think 12:30:47 <SamanthaD> I don't know if it's expected but sometimes I build a truck line from an industry to a train station who also has said industry in its catchment area and the truck will haul loads both ways most of the time 12:31:47 *** oskari892 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 12:31:50 *** oskari892 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 12:32:15 *** krinn [~krinn@76.54.71.86.rev.sfr.net] has joined #openttd 12:32:25 <krinn> hi 12:32:47 <wakou2> krinn: Good day! 12:33:37 <wakou2> SamanthaD: and aristide have helped me with my non-growing town.... :) 12:33:55 <NeuhNeuh> please give me 200â¬Â 12:34:22 <wakou2> Bomb all trees in surrounding area, and replant.... city now loves me :) 12:34:25 <NeuhNeuh> Yeah its raining 12:34:29 <NeuhNeuh> I want to go out < 12:35:15 <krinn> wakou2, and you need someone to tell you that, because you didn't read the wiki, right? 12:35:55 <SamanthaD> wakou2: you're welcome n_n 12:36:33 <Eddi|zuHause> it's not a lie... 12:37:38 <NeuhNeuh> No 12:37:41 <NeuhNeuh> Not welcome 12:37:43 <NeuhNeuh> Give me monney 12:37:53 <NeuhNeuh> I want to create a subway station under my house 12:39:46 <SamanthaD> NeuhNeuh: Good god man, WHY?! Have you ever stood over a subway tunnel when a train roars through it?! 12:42:33 <NeuhNeuh> SamanthaD: :3 12:43:39 <Eddi|zuHause> where's TrueBrain when you have a weird teenager? 12:44:19 <NeuhNeuh> I'm not a teenager 12:44:23 <NeuhNeuh> I 22 Years old 12:44:45 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm sure you are. 12:44:46 <Xaroth|Work> close enough 12:44:55 <Xaroth|Work> it's not physical age that counts, only mental. 12:45:35 *** NeuhNeuh [~quassel@37.175.217.118] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:45:49 <krinn> be kind with kids :) 12:46:05 <SamanthaD> Xaroth|Work: Apparently judges would disagree ;) 12:47:19 <andythenorth> meh, hit boredom point after 11 game years 12:47:25 <andythenorth> no GS in this game 12:47:32 <SamanthaD> GS? 12:47:37 <andythenorth> game script 12:47:41 <SamanthaD> ah 12:47:48 * andythenorth wanted to learn how cdist worked 12:47:50 <andythenorth> now I know 12:49:00 *** Aristide [~quassel@37.175.217.118] has joined #openttd 12:51:23 <andythenorth> can GS look at the cdist link graph in any useful way? 12:51:50 <andythenorth> I would like a GS that manipulates subsidies to create 'now deliver from A to B' goals 12:52:26 <krinn> no, gsapi have not such functions 12:52:55 <andythenorth> wonder if it can maintain its own linkgraph 12:52:58 <andythenorth> probly not 12:53:40 <krinn> it just cannot know what cargodist is doing, so no 12:53:47 <krinn> you can only know if cargodist is enable or not 12:54:03 <andythenorth> hmm 12:54:28 <andythenorth> I assume subsidy generator already checks if a town is connected, otherwise subsidy would be stupid 12:54:53 <Eddi|zuHause> no, it perfectly well creates subsidies if all towns are connected already 12:56:45 <andythenorth> how fun :) 12:57:12 <andythenorth> cdist is neat, but I miss the 'cargo wants to go here' aspect from YACD 12:57:32 <andythenorth> I don't need it on a per-packet level, a reason to create routes from A to B would be enough 12:58:06 <andythenorth> I also "need" auto-refit for NARS 2 :P 12:58:09 <andythenorth> where is pikka :P 12:59:01 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: yes, it's possible to implement these connectivity "goals", but it's very inefficient to determine all possible destinations 12:59:50 *** ntoskrnl [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 13:00:08 <Xaroth|Work> SamanthaD: judges disagree with that 13:00:15 <Xaroth|Work> underage people have been tried as adults 13:00:47 <andythenorth> Eddi|zuHause: because....? 13:01:41 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: just take passengers as example, pretty much every house would be a possible destination 13:01:51 <Eddi|zuHause> and they change often 13:02:06 <andythenorth> use towns for pax 13:02:11 <andythenorth> as per current subsidies 13:02:22 <andythenorth> any station in town is valid 13:02:49 <andythenorth> i.e. goal is met if any station in town has pax delivered (or collected, depends on goal) 13:05:29 *** KritiK [~Maxim@0001264a.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 13:05:30 <krinn> well, for subsidy goal is met if any station have a bus visiting it (no pax need, as long as bus try loading) if remember well 13:05:32 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: but then consider that houses could accept arbitrary cargos as well 13:05:57 <Eddi|zuHause> krinn: i don't think that is right 13:06:15 *** mindlesstux [~mindlestu@raspberrypi.mindlesstux.com] has joined #openttd 13:06:17 <krinn> i may not remember well :) 13:06:23 <Eddi|zuHause> krinn: subsidies are awarded for the first cargo packet actually delivered 13:07:03 <andythenorth> hmm 13:07:35 <andythenorth> Eddi|zuHause: and acceptance can change arbitrarily.... 13:07:47 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: think of ECS gas stations 13:08:05 <Eddi|zuHause> which pop up and disappear all the time 13:08:06 <andythenorth> so is current subsidy system actually broken? 13:08:26 <Eddi|zuHause> and you need actually two stations to accept anything 13:08:51 <George> Eddi|zuHause: which pop up and disappear all the time -> the last one has not to disappear. It is coded 13:08:55 <Eddi|zuHause> the current subsidy model is "insufficient", not "broken" 13:09:29 <Eddi|zuHause> George: ok, but you still need two to accept stuff 13:10:04 <Eddi|zuHause> George: i mean the ECS houses 13:10:22 <Eddi|zuHause> (or TTRS) 13:11:09 <George> AFIAR in ECS Houses that was fixed 13:11:59 <Eddi|zuHause> well i have not tested in a while. and the point is not actually that it does that, but that it is possible to do that 13:12:22 *** Doorslammer [~oftc-webi@172.97.168.125.sta.wbroadband.net.au] has joined #openttd 13:12:43 <andythenorth> hmm 13:12:48 <Eddi|zuHause> so "find all possible destinations of a cargo on the map" is tricky 13:12:57 <andythenorth> the idea seems to be stuck whilst GS doesn't have total control 13:13:05 <George> in ECS houses 1.1.2 petrol station accepts petrol even when it is alone 13:13:09 <andythenorth> we really have to get rid of newgrf :P 13:14:03 <George> BTW anyone has any idea when CF would be fixed? 13:14:26 <Eddi|zuHause> what is broken? 13:14:43 <George> Compile factoy of devzone 13:14:52 <Eddi|zuHause> or still the same issue from a few days ago? 13:14:57 <George> Yes 13:15:02 *** Aristide [~quassel@37.175.217.118] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:15:16 *** Aristide [~quassel@37.175.217.118] has joined #openttd 13:17:17 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc22-aztw25-2-0-cust272.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 13:21:39 *** LordAro [~LordAro@host81-158-56-249.range81-158.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 13:31:35 <Guest1442> Hmm 13:31:44 <LordAro> hmm indeed 13:31:59 <Guest1442> "Transport all cargos" gs? 13:32:01 <LordAro> irc topic is outdated btw :P 13:32:04 <Guest1442> Simple 13:32:19 <Guest1442> X amount per quarter 13:34:17 <Guest1442> That would give 5-8 hours gameplay for sane values of X 13:36:34 <Guest1442> An *insanely hard* GS would be "expedite" - nocargoal with limit on maximum amount waiting at any station 13:38:25 *** LordAro [~LordAro@host81-158-56-249.range81-158.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:40:08 *** permagreen [~donovan@204.195.27.175] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:40:58 *** Doorslammer [~oftc-webi@172.97.168.125.sta.wbroadband.net.au] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:48:19 *** LordAro [~LordAro@host81-158-56-249.range81-158.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 13:48:43 <LordAro> oh, good. it seems my new graphics card is too new for the normal driver... 13:51:51 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-213-220-193-253.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 13:58:25 *** Guest1442 [~andytheno@cpc22-aztw25-2-0-cust272.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:00:04 <SamanthaD> LordAro: For OpenTTD?! 14:11:47 <LordAro> haven't tried that, but currently the UI is quite laggy :( 14:14:26 *** wakou2 [~stephen@host86-150-25-188.range86-150.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 14:22:49 <LordAro> hmm, have to try to get the catalyst driver working instead 14:23:53 * krinn would have put all his bets on ATI : non working driver with a video card -> ATI ! 14:28:13 <LordAro> ? 14:28:30 *** Alice3 [~Alice@cpc18-grim14-2-0-cust478.12-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:31:24 *** Alice3 [~Alice@cpc18-grim14-2-0-cust478.12-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 14:31:54 *** LordAro [~LordAro@host81-158-56-249.range81-158.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:36:57 <peter1139> herp derp, icu can't do kerning or what? 15:03:27 * dihedral is home :-) 15:06:12 <SpComb> ttf meet is still going! 15:19:01 <jonty-comp> how dare it 15:25:34 <SamanthaD> ttf? 15:31:25 *** LordAro [~LordAro@host81-158-56-249.range81-158.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 15:31:35 <LordAro> now that seems a bit better 15:36:22 <dihedral> ttf? 15:38:01 <LordAro> of sorts 15:41:46 <LordAro> got minecraft running anyway :) 15:51:53 *** michi_cc [michi@00012723.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:04:54 *** oskari892 [~oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 16:05:59 *** michi_cc [~michi@00012723.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 16:06:02 *** mode/#openttd [+v michi_cc] by ChanServ 16:09:13 *** amiller [~amiller@pool-96-255-47-217.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:10:04 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:13:10 <planetmaker> o/ 16:13:30 <Tom_Soft> \o, 16:13:37 <LordAro> o- 16:13:45 <SamanthaD> \o/ 16:14:09 <SamanthaD> o/ \o/ \o <-- like that 16:14:17 <SamanthaD> I dunno what LordAro is up to though :p 16:15:23 <Tom_Soft> Hello from Russia) 16:15:52 <SamanthaD> Hello from California! 16:17:09 <Tom_Soft> USA) 16:18:29 *** roboboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:18:54 <LordAro> assuming your question mark "?" is broken, yes, California is in USA 16:19:13 <TWerkhoven> theres a california in scotland too 16:19:22 <SamanthaD> I did not know that! 16:19:25 <SamanthaD> yes, the American one 16:19:29 <LordAro> although, it may actually be meant to be an explnation point "!" 16:19:47 <TWerkhoven> its a tiny town 16:19:53 <LordAro> In my experience, very few American place names are original though :) 16:19:55 <SamanthaD> I like calling "!" a "bang" 16:19:59 <TWerkhoven> true 16:20:18 <SamanthaD> Just once I want to found a new town. I'm going to call it "Very New York" 16:20:59 <Markk> Nieuw Nieuw Amsterdam 16:21:18 <Markk> You could call it. 16:21:21 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc22-aztw25-2-0-cust272.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 16:21:24 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc22-aztw25-2-0-cust272.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [] 16:21:37 <peter1139> ! is called pling 16:21:43 <peter1139> at least, if you used risc os 16:21:56 <Markk> I wouldn't want to risc that. 16:22:11 <Markk> eh-he-he 16:22:32 <SamanthaD> why would they name an operating system after a microprocessor philosophy?! 16:22:49 *** Djohaal [~Djohaal@189.58.13.11.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has joined #openttd 16:23:31 <LordAro> because it runs on those processors? 16:23:58 <Markk> "RISC OS was specifically designed to run on the ARM chipset, which Acorn had designed concurrently, for use in its new line of Archimedes personal computers. It takes its name from the RISC (reduced instruction set computing) architecture supported." 16:24:14 <SamanthaD> yup, I was just reading that 16:24:21 <peter1139> that's a what, not a why 16:24:42 <SamanthaD> those were the days, when they targeted software at specific archs 16:24:58 <SamanthaD> I say "those were the days" and then look wryly at Apple ;) 16:25:06 <Markk> My guess: It was the coders who came up with the name, and coders aren't really famous for their fantasy. 16:25:42 <SamanthaD> I'll bet it's full of assembler 16:25:48 <SamanthaD> who the heck writes RISC assembler?! 16:26:10 <peter1139> those were the days when they wrote software in assembly 16:26:12 <SamanthaD> "We're paid by the number of lines of code" 16:26:29 <peter1139> back when 1MB ram was a fuckton 16:26:36 <Markk> SamanthaD: Apple uses Intel CPUs today. 16:26:56 <SamanthaD> Markk: Yes, but they still DRM their software so it won't run on non-branded hardware 16:27:21 <SamanthaD> Markk: It's not what it runs on, it's whether or not it's written in a portable language, which OSX is. 16:27:41 <SamanthaD> at least I'm pretty sure it doesn't contain code in a lower level than C 16:27:49 <Markk> That's true, but it's possible to run it on a normal PC as well. 16:28:28 <Markk> ...if you for some reason really want to. 16:28:44 <LordAro> SamanthaD: i'd be extremely surprised if there was no assembly code anywhere in OSX 16:28:52 <SamanthaD> it always amazes me the length that some people go through sometimes... 16:29:26 <SamanthaD> LordAro: I doubt it... it runs on a Mach kernel which IIRC is 100% portable 16:29:38 *** Tom_Soft [~id@pool-77-222-102-194.is74.ru] has quit [] 16:29:48 <LordAro> but anywhere at all? in a whole OS? 16:29:52 <Markk> SamanthaD: I could understand if someone does it just for the hell of it, but not if someone actually want to be able to use it on a day-to-day basis. 16:29:54 <SamanthaD> I suppose... 16:30:06 *** George|2 [~George@212.113.107.39] has joined #openttd 16:30:06 *** George is now known as Guest1467 16:30:06 *** George|2 is now known as George 16:30:13 <LordAro> check the unix kernel(?) which OSX is based on, i bet that has some in it somewhere 16:30:20 <Xaroth|Work> bsd 16:30:24 <Markk> FreeBSD 16:30:34 <Markk> But yes, Unix-like. 16:30:36 <SamanthaD> Mach, not FreeBSD 16:30:45 <Markk> OSX is based on FreeBSD. 16:30:52 <SamanthaD> Yes, but not the kernel 16:30:59 <Markk> BSD is the kernel. 16:31:09 <Markk> Oh 16:31:11 <SamanthaD> BSD is the kernel plus a tonne of other supporting softwares 16:31:12 <peter1139> la la la 16:31:42 <peter1139> but yes, the predecessor of risc os, called arthur, was written in bbc basic 16:31:53 <peter1139> (which was written in assembly of course) 16:32:13 <SamanthaD> ah, BASIC 16:32:18 <SamanthaD> I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy 16:32:20 <Xaroth|Work> planetmaker: you kicked everybody out yet? 16:32:34 <peter1139> portable code isn't a concern when you need to eke out every bit of performance possibly 16:32:43 <peter1139> *possible 16:33:06 <planetmaker> yeah, I just kicked fonso out last 16:33:12 <Xaroth|Work> how was it? 16:33:19 <planetmaker> great, I think :-) 16:33:53 <planetmaker> good to see all the faces again and some new :-) 16:34:07 <planetmaker> only problem: they were not hungry enough 16:34:25 <peter1139> http://fuzzle.org/~petern/ottd/a.png 16:34:25 <peter1139> or 16:34:27 <Xaroth|Work> so you have enough food for the next 3 months? :P 16:34:27 <peter1139> http://fuzzle.org/~petern/ottd/b.png 16:34:34 <planetmaker> kinda 16:34:45 <Xaroth|Work> a 16:34:47 <Xaroth|Work> BUT 16:34:53 <Xaroth|Work> i miss a random option 16:35:13 <planetmaker> I prefer b :D 16:35:23 <Xaroth|Work> in b multiplayer is less readable 16:35:39 <Xaroth|Work> and 'settings' 16:35:54 <Xaroth|Work> ie, 2 small letters next to eachother 16:35:58 <planetmaker> true 16:36:11 <Xaroth|Work> (editor, settings, multiplayer, online, etc) 16:36:28 <Markk> I prefer a. 16:36:36 *** Guest1467 [~George@212.113.107.39] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:37:07 <Xaroth|Work> what would be even better; a 'random' option where you can select random from what 16:37:31 <peter1139> ? 16:37:43 <Xaroth|Work> for the terrain type 16:42:10 *** wakou2 [~stephen@host86-150-25-188.range86-150.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 16:44:21 <peter1139> oh 16:46:39 <Xaroth|Work> then again, a random option for various options would be nice to have 16:47:38 <LordAro> i have a feeling that has been suggested before :L 16:47:54 <LordAro> in fact, i may even remember a patch for it...maybe 16:48:02 <Xaroth|Work> i'm pretty sure peter1139 has a patch for it 16:51:20 <peter1139> doubt it 16:52:42 <Xaroth|Work> impossibru 16:52:54 * V453000 iz home 16:53:22 <Markk> Is it possible to make a timetable or order for a train so that the train only stops at a specific station if there's still room for more passengers or goods? 16:53:58 <V453000> +- 16:54:02 <Markk> Otherwise just pass the station to the next one. 16:54:03 <V453000> yes 16:54:22 <Markk> How do you do that? :) 16:54:41 <V453000> http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Self-regulating_Network 16:54:50 <V453000> various options 16:55:48 <dihedral> looks like some people are back home and have nothing better to do :-P 16:56:39 <V453000> half true :P 16:56:56 <dihedral> but i must say, it was a real pleasure meeting you guys :-) 16:56:59 <planetmaker> some people probably are. One person though will be home and missing a blue towel 16:57:10 <V453000> :D 16:57:17 <dihedral> lol 16:57:18 <V453000> twas awesome :) 16:57:41 <planetmaker> that person who misses the towel is not me, btw :D 16:57:50 <dihedral> me neither 16:58:14 <planetmaker> I suspect it to be from one of the guys who stayed over night here... found it on the balcony over a chair 16:58:29 <V453000> I did not even bring towel, so ... :) 16:58:52 <dihedral> yumm... 17:01:03 <Markk> V453000: There it is! I've seen the conditional order before, but that was in a same game I downloaded, so I had no idea on how to find it, thanks mate! 17:04:56 <V453000> yw :) 17:06:10 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 17:06:13 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 17:06:33 <Alberth> \o 17:06:36 <peter1139> so 17:06:37 <V453000> o/ 17:06:51 <planetmaker> \o/ 17:06:54 <LordAro> \o 17:10:45 *** DDR [~chatzilla@154.20.133.76] has joined #openttd 17:13:29 <dihedral> Alberth, :-) 17:13:39 <LordAro> so when do we get to see the pictures from your party? :) 17:15:08 *** NeuhNeuh [~quassel@37.175.217.118] has joined #openttd 17:15:41 <Alberth> they are all in my head, but I need that device, so I cannot borrow it to you 17:15:45 <dihedral> where do you want the video of the commit :-P 17:17:05 <planetmaker> right... I magically decided to not put down the tent now... a downpour just started :D 17:18:02 <dihedral> :-P 17:18:12 <LordAro> Alberth: it's not that important, is it? :P 17:18:13 <dihedral> it hit me while i was still on the road 17:18:51 *** Aristide [~quassel@37.175.217.118] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:19:37 *** TrueBrain_ is now known as TrueBrain 17:19:52 <Xaroth|Work> it lives 17:20:28 <Alberth> LordAro: indeed, pictures are meaningless, you had to be there to understand the meaning 17:21:09 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 17:21:12 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai|noir] by ChanServ 17:21:12 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@87.115.191.171] has joined #openttd 17:21:24 <LordAro> Alberth: i was talking about the 'device', but sure :P 17:21:55 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-213-220-193-253.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 17:23:51 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:26:56 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-117-49.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:30:04 * Alberth disagrees, my head is very important to me! 17:40:23 <LordAro> still waiting for 1.3.2 release announcement, btw :P 17:40:51 <dihedral> aye - i thought the same :-D 17:40:51 *** NeuhNeuh [~quassel@37.175.217.118] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:44:28 *** Aristide [~quassel@37.175.217.118] has joined #openttd 17:45:20 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r25633 trunk/src/lang/estonian.txt (2013-07-28 17:45:12 UTC) 17:45:21 <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 17:45:22 <DorpsGek> estonian - 147 changes by KSiimson 17:55:33 <Alberth> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=67170 to all that are waiting but forgot to write release notes 17:57:54 <LordAro> now openttd.org :P 18:03:26 <dihedral> don't rush him - he had a busy weekend :-P 18:06:12 <Alberth> I just finished reading the forum :) 18:09:14 <planetmaker> LordAro, he did that already over 24h ago ;-) 18:09:37 <LordAro> haxors! 18:09:57 <LordAro> sorry, h4x0rs!* 18:13:20 <dihedral> lol 18:13:34 <dihedral> LordAro, nah you just forgot to clear your browsers cache :-D 18:14:15 <LordAro> oh, cache persists across different OS's and harddrives, does it? :P 18:16:38 <dihedral> are you using a proxy? 18:16:42 <dihedral> :-P 18:17:03 <planetmaker> LordAro, yes, definitely 18:17:17 <LordAro> :D :P 18:17:33 <LordAro> arch is fine btw, since you asked :) 18:17:58 <Alberth> I wouldn't trust it, since it already fooled you for 24 hours! 18:18:08 <dihedral> LordAro, you must have a strange setup, but nobody here can be made responsible for obvious client side issues :-P 18:18:37 <LordAro> :P 18:18:50 <LordAro> oh, and you forgot the irc topic as well :) 18:18:50 *** SamanthaD [~SamanthaD@c-98-248-25-134.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:19:04 <TrueBrain> so much complaining! 18:19:32 <TrueBrain> @whoami 18:19:32 <DorpsGek> TrueBrain: TrueBrain 18:19:34 * dihedral will bite on his tongue, before mentioning goldfish in the channel :-P 18:19:34 <dihedral> ops 18:19:38 <TrueBrain> @mode +q ~LordAro@host81-158-56-249.range81-158.btcentralplus.com 18:19:41 *** mode/#openttd [+q *!~LordAro@host81-158-56-249.range81-158.btcentralplus.com] by DorpsGek 18:19:43 <TrueBrain> hihihihihihhihihihi 18:19:48 <dihedral> hello TrueBrain looks like you have arrived safly 18:19:52 <TrueBrain> they learnt me this on the meet! 18:19:59 <V453000> omfg he did 18:19:59 <TrueBrain> @mode -q ~LordAro@host81-158-56-249.range81-158.btcentralplus.com 18:20:02 *** mode/#openttd [-q *!~LordAro@host81-158-56-249.range81-158.btcentralplus.com] by DorpsGek 18:20:03 <Xaroth|Work> you didn't know -q? 18:20:04 <TrueBrain> its not nice :P 18:20:09 <dihedral> i knew it would happen soon, but i did not know how soon :-D 18:20:13 <LordAro> D: 18:20:18 <TrueBrain> you expected it on yourself dih 18:20:23 <dihedral> nah 18:20:23 <TrueBrain> that is where the surprise came from 18:20:45 <dihedral> i expected it on some fake muxy or yorick or luukland or peter_t 18:20:47 <dihedral> :-P 18:21:13 <TrueBrain> @op 18:21:17 *** mode/#openttd [+o TrueBrain] by DorpsGek 18:21:33 *** TrueBrain changed the topic of #openttd to: 1.3.2 | Website: *.openttd.org (translator: translator, server list: servers, wiki: wiki, patches & bug-reports: bugs, revision log: vcs, release info: finger) | Don't ask to ask, just ask | 'Latest' is not a valid version, 'Most recent' neither | English only | #openttd.dev for dev-talk | #openttd.notice for commit notices 18:21:36 <TrueBrain> @deop 18:21:39 *** mode/#openttd [-o TrueBrain] by DorpsGek 18:21:44 <TrueBrain> \o/ I was useful \o/ 18:21:48 <LordAro> :O 18:21:51 <dihedral> the @topic command would have done the trick :-D 18:21:51 <TrueBrain> *hybernation activated* 18:21:57 <dihedral> lol 18:22:03 <TrueBrain> I hear also great things about the @kick command 18:22:10 <V453000> @@kickme 18:22:11 <dihedral> :-D 18:22:13 <V453000> @kickme 18:22:15 <V453000> asdf 18:22:21 <TrueBrain> it doesnt know you :P 18:22:33 <V453000> it must pay the ultimate price 18:22:34 <dihedral> @whoami 18:22:34 <DorpsGek> dihedral: I don't recognize you. 18:22:37 <dihedral> pfft 18:22:38 <V453000> @whoami 18:22:39 <DorpsGek> V453000: I don't recognize you. 18:22:39 <Alberth> it lufs you too much 18:22:41 <dihedral> i used to be authed 18:22:59 <dihedral> it's always the same with them - in public: full denial 18:23:19 <V453000> screw you DorpsGek 18:23:32 <V453000> hey it doesnt reply "invalid command" like webster would :( 18:27:49 *** Wuzzy [~Wuzzy@0001b11e.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 18:30:45 <dihedral> V<tab> - that's what you can do with configuration ;-) 18:37:14 *** Jomann [~abchirk@g229118008.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 18:38:47 <V453000> asdf :) 18:39:28 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-213-220-193-253.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 18:39:59 *** Aristide [~quassel@37.175.217.118] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:40:11 *** Aristide [~quassel@37.175.217.118] has joined #openttd 18:40:42 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc22-aztw25-2-0-cust272.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 18:40:46 <andythenorth> o/ 18:42:34 *** LordAro [~LordAro@host81-158-56-249.range81-158.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:46:28 <Alberth> o/ 18:47:15 *** amiller [~amiller@216-15-29-79.c3-0.161-ubr1.lnh-161.md.cable.rcn.com] has joined #openttd 18:52:43 <dihedral> TrueBrain, ... payloadify? :-D http://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/2441/ 18:52:59 <dihedral> just to make you happy 18:57:16 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1ABC8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 18:59:10 *** Zuu_ [~Zuu@109.58.144.209.bredband.tre.se] has joined #openttd 18:59:19 <Xaroth|Work> \o/ 19:01:17 <Zuu_> Not home yet, but the only really cold moment was when entering öresundstÃ¥get with an AC tuned far too low. 19:03:08 <Zuu_> But at least the train has plenty of seats :) Not something one could say about Ice from Hamburg to Copenhagen. 19:04:10 *** Devroush [~dennis@91.181.137.69] has joined #openttd 19:07:39 <andythenorth> Zuu_: is there anything in GS to look at an accepted cargos for a secondary industry, and then find sources for those cargos (with distance etc?) 19:07:57 *** Zuu_ [~Zuu@109.58.144.209.bredband.tre.se] has quit [Quit: Bye] 19:08:05 <andythenorth> oh he gone :P 19:08:17 *** Zuu_ [~Zuu@109.58.144.209.bredband.tre.se] has joined #openttd 19:09:20 <Eddi|zuHause> if you restrict "sources" to "industries" it's easier 19:09:28 <dihedral> easter? 19:09:28 *** Aristide [~quassel@37.175.217.118] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:09:37 *** ntoskrnl11 [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 19:10:17 <andythenorth> Eddi|zuHause: that's a sensible restriction 19:11:16 <Eddi|zuHause> well, you have to do special cases for passengers, mail, tourists, workers, ... any future crazy idea that NewGRF authors will have 19:12:45 <andythenorth> meh 19:13:04 *** Aristide [~quassel@37.175.217.118] has joined #openttd 19:13:17 <Zuu_> A gs can get he industry type of an industry in the game. Using industry type you can get acess to he same data as available in the idustry type graph. 19:13:41 <andythenorth> when are we removing the 'GS must be generic wrt newgrf' design goal? :P 19:14:21 * andythenorth wants to write a GS that requires FIRS, with specific params 19:14:34 <andythenorth> valid for specific range of versions of the grf 19:14:51 <andythenorth> ho, would even generate it from the same codebase :P 19:16:28 *** ntoskrnl [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:17:30 <Zuu_> You can put that demand in the bananas info text, gs descripion and as an dialog in th gam to users who decide to us the gs in unallowed conditions. 19:18:22 <Zuu_> Hmm my 'e' seems broken :) 19:18:39 <dihedral> your 't' as well :-P 19:18:47 <Alberth> only before a ' ' :p 19:22:10 <andythenorth> GS: "Job Security" 19:22:17 <andythenorth> every 2 years a new challenge 19:22:24 <andythenorth> fail the challenge, you get fired 19:22:36 <andythenorth> v1 we just stop the game when you get fired 19:22:45 <andythenorth> v2, maybe you can try a new company :P 19:24:11 <Alberth> lol, I was thinking in the same lines, have a sequence of goals, so you cannot prepare for the next one during getting the first goal 19:24:34 <Alberth> in factm the script could change the 2nd goal to ensure that won't happen :p 19:24:51 <Alberth> s/m /m/ 19:26:09 <andythenorth> brb food 19:29:37 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 19:34:35 *** Zuu_ [~Zuu@109.58.144.209.bredband.tre.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:38:03 <__ln__> btw, there really was a queer parade in bs on saturday 19:44:14 *** Wuzzy [~Wuzzy@0001b11e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Wuzzy] 19:47:20 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 19:47:23 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 19:54:46 <dihedral> http://bugs.openttd.org/task/5660 <- is that a woman? 19:55:17 <dihedral> quote "I love you all very much" 19:57:58 <planetmaker> it's not a woman's name 19:58:31 *** ntoskrnl11 [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:58:38 *** ntoskrnl [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 19:58:58 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 19:59:04 <dihedral> names do not mean much on the internet :-P 19:59:51 <__ln__> a russian woman's last name would end in -a. 20:00:04 <planetmaker> right now my bed means more to me than any name and it's gender in the internet ;-) bon nuit 20:00:24 <andythenorth> :) 20:00:26 <Zuu> planetmaker: are you also tired? :-) 20:00:35 <planetmaker> quite :-) 20:00:38 <dihedral> sleep well honey :-D 20:00:39 * Zuu just got home 20:00:47 <Eddi|zuHause> i have already slept a few hours :) 20:00:48 <dihedral> oh wow, Zuu - that must have been a trip 20:00:50 <planetmaker> :-) do you miss a towel? :D 20:00:52 <Zuu> Quite tired 20:00:55 <dihedral> lol 20:01:05 <planetmaker> blue? 20:01:11 <Eddi|zuHause> i quite certainly don't miss a towel 20:01:12 <Zuu> planetmaker: does it has light blue stripes? 20:01:37 <Rubidium> planetmaker: I do miss a bag with a few beers and some quiche :( 20:01:48 <dihedral> Rubidium, :-D 20:02:04 <Eddi|zuHause> more food for planetmaker :) 20:02:12 <planetmaker> Zuu, well... it has some somewhat ligher spots... but stripes? Not really 20:02:13 <Rubidium> no clue where I left it, but I had it with me when walking out of the building 20:02:23 <planetmaker> Rubidium, you left it on the chair I sit in now 20:02:39 <planetmaker> I wondered whether you did that on purpose as I forced the quiche into it 20:02:40 <Zuu> dihedral: Yeah, and I was unable to reserve a seat for any part of the trip. But could still sit down on all parts despite eg. Hamburg-Copenhagen being sold two departures ahead. 20:02:44 <dihedral> Rubidium, on top of the car perhaps? 20:02:45 *** LordAro [~LordAro@host81-158-56-249.range81-158.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 20:03:10 <Rubidium> planetmaker: I totally forgot; was looking through the car here to find it, but couldn't find it 20:03:14 <Zuu> planetmaker: I beleive i did bring my towel home, and you should have seen the stripes if it was my towel. 20:03:24 <planetmaker> :-( @ Rubidium 20:03:41 <planetmaker> Right, then someone else might complain... my bet is on fonso actually 20:03:41 <dihedral> planetmaker, only a few more people to ask then 20:03:45 <andythenorth> hmm 20:04:02 <andythenorth> auto refit has a chicken-egg problem 20:04:02 <planetmaker> or belugas. dunno :-) 20:04:06 <Zuu> planetmaker: Did you check with fonsinchen yet? 20:04:10 <planetmaker> no 20:04:19 <planetmaker> wasn't here since he left at ~18h 20:04:38 <Zuu> I saw him with a towel in the moring. 20:04:40 <dihedral> planetmaker, if it was Belugas, you could make an auktion in ttf 20:04:47 <planetmaker> lol 20:05:41 <dihedral> if it was Rubidium, perhaps there some people who want a used towel from a dictator, but i know a bunch of people who definately do not want it :-D 20:06:18 <Rubidium> dihedral: I just saw my towel 20:07:35 <andythenorth> hmm 20:07:43 <andythenorth> how do I clear auto-refit from an order? :o 20:07:48 <andythenorth> delete and recreate order? 20:08:12 <Eddi|zuHause> i would have assumed there to be a dropdown 20:08:58 <andythenorth> not 20:09:11 <andythenorth> there is some combination of setting 'no unloading' and 'no loading' that causes it to clear 20:09:15 <andythenorth> haven't figured it out yet 20:09:58 <Eddi|zuHause> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-23468903 20:10:15 <andythenorth> set no unloading, then no loading, then unload if accepted, then load if available 20:10:23 <andythenorth> I guess that's in the wiki somewhere? 20:10:45 <Eddi|zuHause> i haven't used autorefit yet 20:11:23 <andythenorth> I am testing it in Squid 20:11:29 <andythenorth> dunno if it works really 20:11:35 <andythenorth> too many issues 20:12:41 <andythenorth> hmm 20:12:54 <andythenorth> 'no loading' is sufficient to clear auto-refit order 20:12:58 <dihedral> Rubidium, lucky you :-) 20:13:04 <dihedral> is Belugas still with you? 20:16:01 *** ntoskrnl [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:21:58 <andythenorth> how do I build a water airport? 20:22:01 <andythenorth> pikka has seaplanes 20:22:40 <dihedral> heh 20:22:58 <dihedral> perhaps they function like hover crafts 20:25:58 <V453000> or hover cats 20:29:55 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@i59F6CBA3.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 20:34:10 <andythenorth> buses are rubbish for cdist 20:35:34 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6D21C.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:38:29 <dihedral> busses are rubbish. :-P 20:42:00 *** NeuhNeuh [~quassel@37.175.217.118] has joined #openttd 20:46:08 *** Aristide [~quassel@37.175.217.118] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:50:36 <NGC3982> Evening. 20:54:13 <andythenorth> hmm 20:54:21 <andythenorth> my timetabled ships keep clustering 20:56:13 <andythenorth> figured it out :P 21:00:11 <dihedral> nn 21:01:32 <Zuu> andythenorth: I think that the airport bransch/queue had water airports. 21:01:42 <andythenorth> I think there's a grf for it somewhere 21:08:21 *** TomyLobo [~foo@91-65-210-133-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Quit: Standby mode...] 21:09:04 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fe4cd.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 21:11:20 *** Aristide [~quassel@37.175.217.118] has joined #openttd 21:11:24 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1ABC8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:11:30 <fonsinchen> The towel is mine. You can keep it. It has been used as saddle for the unicorn, though. 21:14:00 <andythenorth> bye 21:14:01 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc22-aztw25-2-0-cust272.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 21:15:38 *** NeuhNeuh [~quassel@37.175.217.118] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:16:54 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i528C368E.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: http://bit.ly/nkczDT] 21:18:20 <TWerkhoven> xaroth? 21:27:36 <Xaroth|Work> TWerkhoven: ? 21:28:10 <TWerkhoven> found a bug in libottdadmin2 21:28:31 <TWerkhoven> a fix too 21:28:49 <Xaroth|Work> put it up on github :) 21:28:57 <Xaroth|Work> and good that people use it \o/ 21:29:31 <TWerkhoven> well, getting there anyway 21:29:41 <Xaroth|Work> what's the bug 21:29:44 <TWerkhoven> right now it just dumps anything it receives into the console 21:30:13 <TWerkhoven> packets/server.py, line 129 21:30:16 <TWerkhoven> format should be self.format 21:33:21 <Xaroth|Work> good find 21:33:40 <TWerkhoven> :) 21:34:10 <Xaroth|Work> fixed, pushed. 21:38:05 <TWerkhoven> :D 21:44:36 *** Ristovski [~rafael@ppp-seco11pa2-46-193-128.78.wb.wifirst.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:44:37 *** Ristovski_ [~rafael@ppp-seco11pa2-46-193-128.77.wb.wifirst.net] has joined #openttd 21:44:59 *** rafael__ [~rafael@ppp-seco11pa2-46-193-128.78.wb.wifirst.net] has joined #openttd 21:52:43 *** Ristovski_ [~rafael@ppp-seco11pa2-46-193-128.77.wb.wifirst.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:54:35 *** Ristovski_ [~rafael@ppp-seco11pa2-46-193-128.77.wb.wifirst.net] has joined #openttd 21:55:23 *** rafael__ [~rafael@ppp-seco11pa2-46-193-128.78.wb.wifirst.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:55:57 *** Ristovski [~rafael@ppp-seco11pa2-46-193-128.78.wb.wifirst.net] has joined #openttd 22:02:49 *** Ristovski_ [~rafael@ppp-seco11pa2-46-193-128.77.wb.wifirst.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:03:51 *** oskari892 [~oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 22:06:51 *** Aristide [~quassel@37.175.217.118] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:07:03 *** Aristide [~quassel@37.175.217.118] has joined #openttd 22:07:12 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@89.137.75.224] has quit [] 22:09:12 *** MrShell [~mrshell@HSI-KBW-5-56-195-183.hsi17.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has joined #openttd 22:13:17 *** MrShell [~mrshell@HSI-KBW-5-56-195-183.hsi17.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has quit [] 22:18:19 *** michi_cc [~michi@00012723.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Und weg...] 22:39:27 *** NeuhNeuh [~quassel@37.175.217.118] has joined #openttd 22:43:38 *** Aristide [~quassel@37.175.217.118] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:44:16 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:52:37 *** michi_cc [~michi@00012723.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 22:52:40 *** mode/#openttd [+v michi_cc] by ChanServ 22:54:31 *** KritiK [~Maxim@0001264a.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:55:13 *** Alice3 [~Alice@cpc18-grim14-2-0-cust478.12-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [] 22:56:05 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:07:14 *** Ristovski [~rafael@ppp-seco11pa2-46-193-128.78.wb.wifirst.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:19:09 *** amiller [~amiller@216-15-29-79.c3-0.161-ubr1.lnh-161.md.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:19:15 *** Devroush [~dennis@91.181.137.69] has quit [] 23:19:52 *** JGR [~JGR@host81-129-57-88.range81-129.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 23:30:43 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-213-220-193-253.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 23:30:59 *** LordAro [~LordAro@host81-158-56-249.range81-158.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:37:16 *** amiller [~amiller@216-15-29-79.c3-0.161-ubr1.lnh-161.md.cable.rcn.com] has joined #openttd 23:43:08 *** Midnightmyth [~quassel@93-167-84-102-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:47:46 *** NeuhNeuh [~quassel@37.175.217.118] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:59:35 *** DabuYu [DoubleYou@128.250.79.186] has joined #openttd