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00:00:39 <Supercheese> can't forget the hoverboards 00:02:55 <LordAro> merry new years 00:05:13 *** mgpl [~mgpl@176-58-16-246.net.e-cho.pl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:13:48 *** FLHerne [~flh@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:14:55 *** mgpl [~mgpl@176-58-16-246.net.e-cho.pl] has joined #openttd 00:24:57 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 00:27:33 *** MTsPony [~MTsPony@008-086-128-083.dynamic.caiway.nl] has quit [] 00:28:37 *** MTsPony [~MTsPony@008-086-128-083.dynamic.caiway.nl] has joined #openttd 00:31:04 *** Kurimus [~stabbity@dsl-tkubrasgw2-54f816-197.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:31:11 *** Kurimus [~stabbity@88-148-183-199.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 00:48:10 *** Suicyder [~Suicyder@86.92.59.88] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Would you like to know more?] 00:56:34 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:59:02 *** liq3 [liq3@CPE-120-147-178-81.gdfw1.lon.bigpond.net.au] has quit [] 01:22:12 *** Jinassi [~jinassi@0001ec72.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de] 01:23:10 *** oskari89 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 01:24:35 *** Jinassi [~jinassi@176.76.106.175] has joined #openttd 01:42:08 *** mgpl [~mgpl@176-58-16-246.net.e-cho.pl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:45:32 *** jjavaholic [~jjavaholi@grahamg63.plus.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:50:08 *** smoke_fumus [~smoke_fum@188.35.176.90] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:54:50 *** Quatroking [~Quatrokin@ip226-139-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:58:56 *** mgpl [~mgpl@176-58-16-246.net.e-cho.pl] has joined #openttd 02:05:05 *** Progman [~progman@p57A18BAA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:46:00 *** luaduck [~luaduck@0001c465.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:55:35 *** luaduck_zzz [~luaduck@0001c465.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 02:56:04 *** luaduck_zzz is now known as luaduck 03:04:07 *** luaduck [~luaduck@0001c465.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:05:06 *** luaduck_zzz [~luaduck@0001c465.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 03:05:17 *** luaduck_zzz is now known as luaduck 03:22:04 <argoneus> nn 03:44:00 *** MTsPony [~MTsPony@008-086-128-083.dynamic.caiway.nl] has quit [] 03:50:28 *** MJP [~mjp@hq.z77.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:14:15 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@i59F6C9CD.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 04:30:55 *** snowman [~snowman@91.219.30.81] has joined #openttd 04:49:23 *** snowman_ [~snowman@91.219.30.81] has joined #openttd 04:49:30 *** Extrems1 [borgs@modemcable204.141-177-173.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #openttd 04:51:21 *** Rubidium_ [~Rubidium@noiv.net] has joined #openttd 04:52:10 *** Netsplit reticulum.oftc.net <-> testlink-beta.oftc.net quits: Extrems, snowman, __ln__, Rubidium 04:53:12 *** Netsplit over, joins: Extrems, __ln__ 04:53:57 *** Extrems [borgs@modemcable204.141-177-173.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:54:22 *** Hazzard is now known as Hazzard_ 04:54:25 *** Hazzard_ is now known as Hazzard 05:00:18 <snowman_> HAPPY FUCKING NEW YEAR CUNTS DID YOU JOIN MY NETWORK YET????? 05:00:42 *** snowman_ [~snowman@91.219.30.81] has quit [autokilled: This host triggered network flood protection. please mail support@oftc.net if you feel this is in error, quoting this message. (2015-01-01 05:00:42)] 05:00:57 *** hdevalence [~quassel@70.48.162.12] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 05:43:33 <Hazzard> LOL 05:56:01 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p5DC66314.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 05:56:15 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD5608.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 06:14:40 *** Biolunar [Biolunar@blfd-4db01f56.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 06:23:10 *** luaduck is now known as luaduck_zzz 06:36:30 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~flex@i59F6C9BF.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 06:43:19 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@i59F6C9CD.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:44:21 *** liq3 [liq3@CPE-120-147-178-81.gdfw1.lon.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 07:06:45 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 07:06:48 <andythenorth> o/ 07:25:58 <andythenorth> what does {CARGO_LONG} expect as parameters? 08:00:26 <Eddi|zuHause> what do the specs say? 08:00:57 <Eddi|zuHause> good yearing 08:05:38 <andythenorth> I donât know where detailed specs are for this, and google finds nothing 08:05:41 <andythenorth> I am using http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/eints/nightlies/LATEST/docs/string_commands.html#non-positional-gamescript-string-commands 08:05:56 <andythenorth> and also guessing by reading Silicon Valley 08:06:16 <andythenorth> ottd src will know I guess 08:06:28 *** Kurimus [~stabbity@88-148-183-199.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:07:20 <Supercheese> Well, {CARGO_LONG} is "XX tons of stuff", no? 08:07:28 <Supercheese> or crates or whatnot 08:07:49 <andythenorth> yes 08:07:57 <andythenorth> I think the problem is internal to this GS code 08:12:30 <andythenorth> yup 08:15:50 *** Flygon__ [~Flygon@147.18.214.218.sta.commander.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:16:00 <Eddi|zuHause> i feel like it should say this here: https://wiki.openttd.org/OpenTTDDevBlackBook/Special_strings 08:16:08 <Eddi|zuHause> but page seems outdated 08:16:55 <Supercheese> I would presume it requires two bits of data, one for cargo amount, and one for cargo type, no? 08:17:27 <Supercheese> bits/pieces 08:21:50 <andythenorth> Eddi|zuHause: google found me that page, but yeah, outdated 08:22:02 <andythenorth> Supercheese: id, amount 08:41:27 *** Flygon__ [~Flygon@147.18.214.218.sta.commander.net.au] has joined #openttd 08:46:40 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@cpe-76-178-136-186.natnow.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Valete omnes] 09:09:29 *** Rubidium_ is now known as Rubidium 09:09:44 <Rubidium> andythenorth: http://newgrf-specs.tt-wiki.net/wiki/NML:Language_files#cite_note-cargoamount-0 ? 09:12:54 <Eddi|zuHause> i suppose $someone should consolidate all these docs 09:13:09 <Rubidium> why? 09:13:24 <Rubidium> oh... hmm... it's not NML he's talking about 09:13:47 <Rubidium> then it's probably different... 09:14:07 <andythenorth> nogo 09:15:24 <andythenorth> also HNY etc :) 09:15:25 <Rubidium> but yes, cargo_long/short/tiny are cargoid + amount 09:21:42 <andythenorth> not sure where that should be documented :) 09:38:00 <Rubidium> irc://irc.oftc.net/#openttd ? 09:45:15 <andythenorth> http://irclogs.qmsk.net/channels/openttd :P 09:48:33 <Eddi|zuHause> in case anyone missed it: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xncnyt_dinner-for-one-hdtv-720p-der-90-geburtstag_fun :) 09:48:54 <Eddi|zuHause> (sketch is in english with a short german introduction) 10:00:40 *** mgpl [~mgpl@176-58-16-246.net.e-cho.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:15:22 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-63-102.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 10:18:48 *** oskari89 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 10:21:05 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:33:30 *** DDR [~kvirc@S010600254bbe4e1c.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:34:27 <peter1138> "NO COPYRIGHT VIOLATION INTENDED!" Yeah that's how it works... 10:36:28 *** Progman [~progman@p57A194EF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 10:44:16 <andythenorth> what is this openttd in the browser thing, other than a party trick? 10:44:49 <andythenorth> and creating space for some ads that probably pay low and perform badly 10:46:58 <andythenorth> I donât think I belong in the the problems forum 10:47:01 <andythenorth> I should probably hide it 10:48:44 <andythenorth> also I no longer understand the Iron Horse thread 10:48:46 <andythenorth> but nvm 10:56:15 *** smoke_fumus [~smoke_fum@188.35.176.90] has joined #openttd 10:56:37 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@95.76.27.245] has joined #openttd 11:00:13 *** MJP [~mjp@hq.z77.fr] has joined #openttd 11:05:57 * andythenorth awaits alberth 11:07:35 <V453000> heyoooo 11:07:42 <V453000> new year, happiness, stuff 11:09:22 <andythenorth> lo V 11:11:56 *** Gantradies [~oftc-webi@pa49-197-15-4.pa.qld.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 11:12:54 <V453000> hihi 11:13:54 *** mgpl [~mgpl@176-58-16-246.net.e-cho.pl] has joined #openttd 11:14:40 <V453000> starting the year off with some 3D modelz :) 11:15:14 <andythenorth> wat 11:15:20 * andythenorth is shocked 11:15:40 <andythenorth> I thought your 2015 resolution was to go back to drawing pixels, as god intended 11:15:52 *** Alberth [~alberth@2001:981:c6c5:1:be5f:f4ff:feac:e11] has joined #openttd 11:15:55 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 11:16:07 <andythenorth> ah there he is :) 11:16:12 <andythenorth> summoning works again 11:16:57 <andythenorth> lo Alberth 11:17:24 <Alberth> here I am, with a very new Fedora21 OS :) 11:17:40 <LordAro> is it shiny? 11:18:35 <andythenorth> new year, new OS 11:18:44 <Alberth> hopefully, I just did a basic install 11:18:57 <andythenorth> I fixed cargo name display in the goals 11:18:59 <Alberth> no doubt I'll be missing lots of details here and there 11:19:04 <andythenorth> but I donât like how I did it 11:19:17 <andythenorth> passing âcargoesâ along a stack of functions 11:19:38 <Alberth> doesn't sound good indeed 11:19:43 <andythenorth> maybe itâs just me, but I really dislike writing code that passes bazillions of function params 11:19:57 <Alberth> no, it's not just you :) 11:19:57 <andythenorth> for stuff thatâs safely global to the environment 11:20:10 <andythenorth> I see it done a lot though :) 11:20:36 <LordAro> needs more objects :P 11:20:41 *** mgpl_ [~mgpl@176-58-16-246.net.e-cho.pl] has joined #openttd 11:20:53 <andythenorth> most of the stuff I work on has the idea of context 11:21:08 <andythenorth> and you trust the context to provide the right things 11:21:24 <LordAro> Rubidium: copyright notices are outdated, btw ;) 11:21:29 <andythenorth> anyway, I pushed it, read the diff to see what I did :) 11:21:39 <andythenorth> next, fix goal progress updating 11:21:54 <andythenorth> which I didnât do as I wasnât sure if it was unfinished, or done-but-buggy 11:22:14 <LordAro> eventually i'll write some squirrel again 11:22:25 <LordAro> now that i actually understand programming 11:22:42 <andythenorth> squirrel is ok 11:22:51 <andythenorth> bit overly fond of pointless chars 11:23:21 <LordAro> hmm? 11:23:25 <andythenorth> ; and such 11:23:35 <LordAro> heh 11:23:48 <LordAro> it's not python, y'know :p 11:24:08 <andythenorth> theyâre optional in javascript too 11:24:17 <andythenorth> although itâs actually really ugly to omit them in JS 11:24:26 <LordAro> and dangerous, iirc 11:25:11 <Alberth> what's wrong with goal updating? 11:25:54 <andythenorth> updates the timeout, but no display of % transported 11:25:58 <andythenorth> although there is code to do that 11:26:03 <andythenorth> seems not to be called afaict 11:26:13 <andythenorth> UpdateDelivereds 11:26:30 <andythenorth> oops UpdateDelivered 11:26:32 <andythenorth> no s 11:27:00 *** mgpl [~mgpl@176-58-16-246.net.e-cho.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:27:13 <Alberth> it doesn't until you deliver something :) 11:27:34 <Alberth> I don't link the ticks display though 11:28:02 <Alberth> *like 11:28:47 <andythenorth> I have a savegame with cargo being delivered 11:28:54 <andythenorth> maybe I should check that again :P 11:29:14 <Alberth> it's not updated on delivery, but later, once every X days 11:35:07 *** mgpl_ [~mgpl@176-58-16-246.net.e-cho.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:36:07 <andythenorth> afaict % transported is over-written by timeout 11:36:17 <andythenorth> they write to the same progress column :) 11:36:35 <Alberth> I fixed that 11:36:44 <Alberth> maybe I didn't commit/push? 11:36:46 <andythenorth> ah 11:36:48 <andythenorth> mayb :) 11:38:26 *** Quatroking [~Quatrokin@ip226-139-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has joined #openttd 11:39:49 <Alberth> doesn't seem to be the case 11:42:26 <andythenorth> hmm 11:42:32 <Alberth> hmm, openttd doesn't run anymore :p 11:43:45 <andythenorth> ho ho 11:43:56 * andythenorth bets on freetype 11:45:44 <Alberth> liballeg :p 11:45:59 <Alberth> but I am missing lots of other libs too, it seems 11:48:25 <andythenorth> port update * 11:48:27 <andythenorth> or whatever 11:48:37 <andythenorth> Iâm assured itâs all 100% wonderful :) 11:48:49 <andythenorth> whenever I complain about the state of deps on OS X 11:50:24 <Alberth> a bit more subtle, but yeah :) 12:04:20 <andythenorth> hmm 12:04:27 <Alberth> works for me 12:05:30 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 12:06:54 <Alberth> me updates 12:09:29 <andythenorth> (different GS idea) set a goal per town, the aim is to clear the map (meet goal fo every town) 12:09:36 <andythenorth> every n years, GS founds a new town 12:11:03 <argoneus> hello 12:11:41 <Alberth> shouldn't we add a few parameter settings for things like that? 12:12:53 *** Pensacola [~quassel@c80094.upc-c.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 12:13:14 <Alberth> I agree your change doesn't look nice :) 12:17:32 *** mgpl [~mgpl@176-58-16-246.net.e-cho.pl] has joined #openttd 12:44:33 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@95.76.27.245] has quit [] 12:47:34 *** Yotson [~Yotson@2001:980:6ac8:1:c960:e0:83a:f150] has joined #openttd 12:53:15 *** TTPlaya [~oftc-webi@124-148-66-204.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #openttd 12:55:39 *** TTPlaya [~oftc-webi@124-148-66-204.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:59:27 *** Yotson [~Yotson@2001:980:6ac8:1:c960:e0:83a:f150] has quit [Quit: .] 13:00:58 *** Yotson [~Yotson@2001:980:6ac8:1:ac:cfd8:4ccf:2045] has joined #openttd 13:13:06 *** Suicyder [~Suicyder@86.92.59.88] has joined #openttd 13:26:32 *** Jinassi2 [~jinassi@176.76.78.124] has joined #openttd 13:30:00 *** Jinassi [~jinassi@0001ec72.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:41:46 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i5387AC92.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 13:43:27 *** Myhorta[1] [~Myhorta@2001:8a0:ed44:5b01:dcf7:8292:8146:2498] has joined #openttd 13:46:56 *** oskari892 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 13:48:34 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:48:55 <Taede> http://snag.gy/OZE6l.jpg <-- wrt to the industry info window, should a bug report go to the industry newgrf or to openttd? 13:49:12 <Taede> assuming thats not an intended result of course 13:49:59 <Alberth> newgrf, I think 13:50:23 <Alberth> standard openttd has no "estimate" 13:50:26 <andythenorth> Alberth: yeah my change was to prove itâs a fix :) 13:50:49 <Alberth> andythenorth: how do I test it? 13:51:14 <andythenorth> generate a goal? 13:51:15 <Alberth> I made some changes, and it should still work, but proving that needs testing 13:51:21 <Alberth> any goal? 13:51:42 <andythenorth> the issue was that I had <invalid cargo> in my goal window for some goals, or wrong cargos (compare goal window and console) 13:51:50 <Alberth> I have been using opengfx+ and never seen any problem 13:53:09 <andythenorth> either you fixed it locally and I donât have your changes for some reason, or there was a coincidence with the original cargo ids 13:53:22 <andythenorth> I didnât see until I put it on FIRS arctic basic 13:53:33 <andythenorth> but I think it was occuring before then and I didnât notice :) 13:53:34 <Alberth> k, let's try that 13:53:44 *** oskari89 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:53:56 <Alberth> you know which cargo to look for? 13:54:04 <andythenorth> was pretty frequent for me 13:54:09 <andythenorth> pretty much all were invalid or wrong 13:54:14 *** Myhorta[1] [~Myhorta@2001:8a0:ed44:5b01:dcf7:8292:8146:2498] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:54:14 <andythenorth> up the prior rev and try? 13:54:42 <Alberth> fair enough :) 13:55:09 <Alberth> I found a few more points where indices and cid were mixed up 14:01:41 <Alberth> andythenorth: pushed a nicer solution 14:02:10 <Alberth> ie put the entire cargo data into the goal, instead of just the index 14:04:03 <andythenorth> neat 14:04:19 <andythenorth> appears to work :) 14:05:34 <Alberth> engineering supplies gets printed correctly :) 14:07:22 <andythenorth> btw, I was thinking of masking out some cargos, ENSP and FMSP being prime cases 14:07:28 <andythenorth> probably optionally 14:08:33 <Alberth> sure 14:09:02 <Alberth> could mask out town cargoes or industry cargoes too 14:09:29 <Alberth> so you can play town-only, or industries-only 14:12:38 *** Myhorta[1] [~Myhorta@2001:8a0:ed44:5b01:dcf7:8292:8146:2498] has joined #openttd 14:17:45 <andythenorth> :) 14:19:59 <Eddi|zuHause> if you mask out "feedback cargos", how do you detect which ones are those? 14:20:17 <Eddi|zuHause> e.g. workers, or vehicles, or... 14:21:28 <Eddi|zuHause> basically, the same discussion as with cargodist. except you can make different choices 14:23:10 <Alberth> make a list of options 14:23:21 <andythenorth> just tie it to certain newgrfs 14:23:33 <andythenorth> the whole âGS is in a black box wrt newgrfsâ is nonsense 14:24:29 <andythenorth> do it as progressive enhancement though 14:32:39 <andythenorth> Alberth: Iâll bin my current game (the goal texts stay borked) and start a new one tonight 14:32:43 <andythenorth> for testing :) 14:32:54 <andythenorth> the goal texts are just bad data from previous version 14:34:27 <Alberth> /me hopes so 14:36:28 *** FLHerne [~flh@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 14:47:03 *** oskari89 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 14:48:03 <Eddi|zuHause> "sex between a male and a female silicon lifeform would take longer than the universe is old" 14:50:10 <Flygon__> iunno 14:50:29 <Flygon__> I thought the internet's done the three plus four on that already 14:50:32 *** Flygon__ is now known as Flygon 14:51:30 <Eddi|zuHause> well, theory is that such a lifeform would consist of silicon chain molecules, like we have carbon chains, and such molecules we can create, but only at really low temperatures. and at such low temperatures, chemical reactions happen at a very slow pace 14:53:29 <Flygon> Yeah, but this's the Internet we're talking about 14:53:39 <Flygon> It's likely there's already an artistic representation of this 14:53:40 <Flygon> Anyway 14:53:42 <Flygon> Hyvaa yota 14:53:47 *** oskari892 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:58:11 <andythenorth> âartistic" 15:00:22 <Gantradies> *headdesks* 15:00:24 <Gantradies> are there any modsor something 15:00:29 <Gantradies> that allow you to set astation 15:00:41 <Gantradies> to refuse to "stock' atypeofcargo, ego accept it from industries? 15:01:06 <Gantradies> cause ive jsuthad antoher massiehub station distroedby a farm randomly being buiuld in itscachment area 15:01:17 *** Jinassi2 [~jinassi@176.76.78.124] has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de] 15:01:33 *** Jinassi [~jinassi@176-76-78-124.ipv4.mobile.tusmobil.si] has joined #openttd 15:02:33 <Gantradies> TLDR: for somestupidreason, thehub station for my factory is now filling up with grain and livestock and refusing to accept it. howcan i prevenmt it from EVER happening Again, and fixthe current issue WITHOUT demolishing tghe station sndstarting fomr scratch 15:02:48 <Gantradies> cause it took me HORUS to set up T_T despireate for advice 15:02:53 <Gantradies> Hours 15:04:31 <Alberth> fixed in 1.5, as in, wait long enough and the station will stop accepting 15:05:34 <Alberth> simplest way to ensure vehicles never drop or pickup cargo at the wrong station is to always use "go non-stop" orders 15:06:55 <Alberth> and not force unloading 15:07:32 <Alberth> but now you're too late. Simplest is to just ignore it 15:09:41 <Gantradies> crap 15:09:50 <Gantradies> i dont know why this keeps happening to me 15:09:56 <Alberth> how does the cargo end up there? 15:10:01 <Gantradies> T_T the canals took ages to set up, and i madethem early on 15:10:16 <Gantradies> ok, something was wrong with my spacebar, fixed it 15:10:37 <Alberth> no point in retrying until you understand what happened or is happening 15:10:57 <Alberth> is it still growing? 15:11:09 <Alberth> does it happen when a vehicle stops there? 15:11:24 <Alberth> does the vehicle have force unload or so? 15:12:20 <Gantradies> as far as i can see, the station is recieveing both grain and livestock form a nearby farm, 15:12:25 <Alberth> clearly, if the station is for a factory, the station should accept it. Is the factory gone? 15:12:31 <Gantradies> but AFAICS there arent any inside the cachment area 15:12:31 <Alberth> ah, ok 15:12:44 <Gantradies> its still very much there 15:13:05 <Alberth> so you tried picking up grain and livestock from it 15:13:13 <Alberth> probably right after unloading 15:13:23 <Alberth> if you didn't set "no load" 15:13:29 <Gantradies> i jsut cant FIND any party of teh station that owuld be in rage (i have a habit of expanding my cachments using lorry and bus depots, mainly for passanger stations, which this hub is also starting to serve as) 15:14:06 <Gantradies> yeah, its still SLOWLY creeping upwards 15:14:54 <Gantradies> think it'd be practical/possible for the devs to add a sub-munu to the station ui for forceing a station not to accept certain cargo? 15:15:30 <Gantradies> i occasionally had this problem back i nthe 90's/00's back i nthe retail version, but because you coudlnt get the max station size anywhere near as large it wasnt that bad 15:16:25 <Gantradies> half the timev what happens is a random primary industry is built near a factory/mill as a Random even, and i dont notice untill quite a few years later, hwen i notice the bottom has dropped out of my income 15:17:20 <Gantradies> ( i tend to do VERY long-range ship routes, so my news ticker tends to be flooded with complaints about ships loosing money in this year on a 2-4 year long route, wish you coudl tunr of the notificatison for individual vechicle trypes) 15:17:50 *** JacobD88 [~Thunderbi@cpc20-stap11-2-0-cust392.12-2.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 15:18:40 <Alberth> technically you can add more knobs and bolts, and so, the question is, is that the right solution? 15:18:43 <Eddi|zuHause> Gantradies: the only thing you can do is use "unload and no loading" 15:19:09 *** argoneus [~argoneus@argoneus.com] has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:19:10 <Alberth> so far I have never considered the details of cargo transport and what can go wrong there 15:19:12 *** argoneus [~argoneus@argoneus.com] has joined #openttd 15:19:39 <Eddi|zuHause> there is really nothing else that will help you in any way 15:20:01 <Alberth> magic bulldoze the farm :) 15:20:15 <Eddi|zuHause> that won't get rid of the excess cargo 15:20:30 <Eddi|zuHause> that you bring back and forth with no place to unload 15:20:59 <Alberth> yeah, it needs your order too 15:47:10 *** oskari892 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 15:48:50 *** mgpl [~mgpl@176-58-16-246.net.e-cho.pl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:53:46 <Gantradies> *sigh* given my luch with town expansion/ new industries, that means im goign ot have to expressly do that on EVERYTHING 15:53:54 *** oskari89 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:57:42 *** mgpl [~mgpl@176-58-16-246.net.e-cho.pl] has joined #openttd 15:57:57 <andythenorth> why is the excess cargo costing you money? 15:58:24 <andythenorth> excess cargo is a non-issue 15:58:31 <Alberth> after unloading, wagons pick up the cargo, go back, and don't pick up the 'real' cargo 15:58:45 <andythenorth> oh that issue 15:58:51 <Alberth> ie they drive back and forth without making any money 15:58:58 <andythenorth> you always have to set âno loadâ at drop offs 15:59:00 <andythenorth> assuming cdist 15:59:16 <Alberth> in this case no cdist needed, even 15:59:41 <Alberth> just an industry supplying the same cargo to the destination is enough 16:00:39 <andythenorth> well âno loadingâ is everyoneâs friend :) 16:01:48 <Alberth> I usually forget it as well :) 16:02:27 <Alberth> but my catchment area is small, so not a big problem 16:02:54 *** Myhorta[1] [~Myhorta@2001:8a0:ed44:5b01:dcf7:8292:8146:2498] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:04:30 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@95.76.27.245] has joined #openttd 16:04:33 <andythenorth> I guess a newly built industry could cause this problem 16:04:38 <andythenorth> Iâve seen it, but rarely 16:06:15 *** fkinglag1 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16:33:48 <andythenorth> not 16:35:07 <andythenorth> building the narrowest possible strong axle using one motor per wheel https://www.flickr.com/photos/andythenorth/15979343657/ 16:35:11 *** fkinglag1 [~fkinglag@c-66-41-55-107.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:35:34 <Wolf01> I see what you did it there... put your photostream in the favourites 16:35:47 <andythenorth> I did what? 16:35:56 <Wolf01> the photostream 16:35:57 <andythenorth> flickr is terribly confusing to andythenorth 16:36:26 <andythenorth> I only just found ârotate' 16:36:30 <andythenorth> still canât figure out delete :P 16:38:06 *** MTsPony [~MTsPony@008-086-128-083.dynamic.caiway.nl] has joined #openttd 16:38:24 <Wolf01> https://www.flickr.com/photos/andythenorth/4732700127/ <- looks like an "old ai was there" 16:39:37 <andythenorth> all of that is now in pieces :) 16:39:44 <andythenorth> 4 years of children at it 16:47:51 *** oskari89 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined 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bit 18:27:53 <andythenorth> hopefully I get a few hours clear tonight :) 18:28:32 <Alberth> kids not tired due to staying up late, yesterday ? :) 18:30:35 <andythenorth> nah, asleep at standard time 18:32:53 <Eddi|zuHause> the earlier you send them to bed, the earlier they are awake 18:33:09 <Alberth> it's good for kids to go to bed early 18:33:25 <Alberth> and for us too :) 18:36:16 *** oskari892 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 18:36:35 <andythenorth> sometimes they can go to bed late and get up at 5am 18:36:41 <andythenorth> no particular patterns 18:38:29 *** Haube [~Michi@83.149.126.130] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:44:33 <Eddi|zuHause> well, it only works if done regularly 18:44:52 <Eddi|zuHause> otherwise you just get jetlag 18:54:29 *** luaduck_zzz is now known as luaduck 18:55:00 *** supermarioman [~oftc-webi@189-210-232-153.static.axtel.net] has joined #openttd 18:55:07 <supermarioman> hey guys 18:55:37 *** supermarioman 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