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00:38:52 *** DDR [~David@S0106001f16aa47bc.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:44:54 *** supermop [~supermop@pool-71-183-121-153.nycmny.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:00:39 *** supermop [~supermop@pool-71-183-121-153.nycmny.fios.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 01:04:37 *** JezK [~jez@2407:7800:400:107f:3db5:daca:8457:e66a] has joined #openttd 01:07:33 *** Nathan1852_ [~Nathan185@p5DC11B7F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 01:15:01 *** Nathan1852__ [~Nathan185@p5DC115F7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:24:30 *** Nathan1852_ [~Nathan185@p5DC11B7F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:26:35 <supermop> streaming a podcast and downloading a pineapple update is quite slow 01:28:23 *** Nathan1852 [~Nathan185@p5DC11B7F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 01:40:41 *** Nathan1852 [~Nathan185@p5DC11B7F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:53:31 <Supercheese> sounds like you need to dual track your modem mainline ;) 02:20:08 *** glx_ [~glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:7463:7f73:b0a0:fef7] has quit [Quit: Bye] 02:27:12 *** Biolunar_ [Biolunar@x5d82112c.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #openttd 02:34:09 *** Biolunar [Biolunar@x4d024e30.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:43:48 *** DDR [~David@S0106001f16aa47bc.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #openttd 02:48:34 <Eddi|zuHause> on ISDN you could do that, use two channels to double the speed 03:01:47 <supermop> Eddi|zuHause: so i should replace fiber connection with isdn? 03:02:04 <supermop> here it would probably be about the same speed 03:02:33 <supermop> the cable and fiber internet is so underwhelming 03:02:53 <supermop> because there is only one option for each 03:03:57 <Eddi|zuHause> that's what a monopoly will get you 03:05:42 <supermop> duopoly is even worse 03:06:06 <supermop> because under us law it doesnt technically count as anti-competitive behavior 03:06:48 <supermop> or at least the fcc and courts have been hesitant to fight it 03:12:52 *** Hawky [~Hawky@5ED4968C.cm-7-5c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:17:25 *** jonty-co1p [~jonty@voyager.jontysewell.net] has joined #openttd 03:18:16 <Eddi|zuHause> in germany, the company that owns the majority of the house connections, which is the formerly state run telekom, is required by law to offer the line for any provider to use 03:18:25 <Eddi|zuHause> and the prices are regulated 03:18:47 *** Cursarion^ [xrs@adishbestservedworldly.xrs.fi] has joined #openttd 03:18:56 <Eddi|zuHause> it's not a perfect system, but it clearly is way better than the american system 03:19:54 <Eddi|zuHause> but fibre is virtually nonexistent in germany. 03:20:10 *** Netsplit resistance.oftc.net <-> beauty.oftc.net quits: Cursarion, jonty-comp 03:22:31 <Flygon> Still more Fibre in Germany than Australia 03:26:17 <Eddi|zuHause> are you sure? http://www.oecd.org/sti/broadband/1.10-PctFibreToTotalBroadband-2014-12.xls 03:29:52 <Flygon> Eddi: Yes. 03:30:03 <Flygon> Australia's got fuckall real Fibre connections 03:30:14 <Flygon> At least Germany has decent Broadband through other methods 03:30:35 <Flygon> Here, if you're not one of the lucky few bastards to get Fibre, or even god-forbid Cable 03:30:48 <Flygon> You're probably on a craptacular unstable 6mbits ADSL line 03:33:55 <Eddi|zuHause> i was on 0.3mbit ADSL until about a year ago 03:34:17 <Eddi|zuHause> or maybe two 03:34:44 <Flygon> Holy fuck 03:34:59 <Flygon> How is that even physically possible? 03:35:08 <Flygon> An ADSL line that shit should have been dropping out a megabit ago 03:40:24 <Eddi|zuHause> it's really simple. you pay the same as for a 1mbit line, but you're only getting 1/3 the speed. 03:40:53 <Eddi|zuHause> or technically 3/8 03:42:40 <Flygon> Exactly what happens here 03:42:43 <Flygon> People pay for 24mbit 03:42:47 <Flygon> But that's UPTO 24mbit 03:42:56 <Flygon> I am paying for 24mbit line 03:43:00 <Eddi|zuHause> no. it wasn't like that 03:43:02 <Flygon> But because it's a 3km long line 03:43:08 <Flygon> I get 6mbits 03:43:25 <Flygon> Because the laws of physics suck 03:43:31 <Eddi|zuHause> it was explicitely sold as that speed 03:43:33 <Flygon> And Internet planning here is abysmal 03:43:37 * Flygon nod 03:44:18 <Eddi|zuHause> they meanwhile upgraded to 16mbit, though, and an option to upgrade to 50mbit 03:44:26 <Flygon> Hmm 03:44:32 <Flygon> Sounds like what they're doing 03:44:35 <Eddi|zuHause> but it's still all copper based, not fibre 03:44:37 <Flygon> Is rolling extra line pairs to your house 03:44:44 <Flygon> Which's impossible to do in Australia 03:45:03 <Eddi|zuHause> the line to the house hasn't changed 03:45:13 <Flygon> They don't add additional phone lines?... 03:45:14 <Eddi|zuHause> they upgraded the distribution node 03:45:16 <Flygon> And pair them together 03:45:24 <Flygon> Oh, they move the node closer to your house? 03:45:36 <Eddi|zuHause> something like that 03:45:44 <Eddi|zuHause> i don't know the details 03:45:55 <Flygon> How inefficient :( 03:46:10 <Flygon> Still, better than what's going on here 03:49:23 <Eddi|zuHause> doesn't change the fact that germany is a developing country compared to, like, sweden 03:49:35 <Flygon> Germany... developing country? 03:49:36 <Flygon> ???????????? 03:49:40 <Flygon> What. 03:49:52 <Flygon> Hahaha... dude. Germany, from an Australian perspective 03:49:56 <Flygon> Is developed as fuck 03:50:19 <Flygon> You got decent Internet everywhere, decent freeways, decent public transit, decent economy... 03:50:38 <Flygon> I can understand that, internally, it might look fucking terrible 03:50:46 <Flygon> But from an external PoV, Germany's got it all! 03:51:44 <Eddi|zuHause> all, except fast internet. 03:51:50 <Flygon> Haha... haa 03:51:54 <Flygon> No, you got fast Internet :| 03:52:02 <Flygon> Imean, option to upgrade to 50mbits? 03:52:07 <Flygon> Doesn't fuckin' exist here man :D 03:53:05 <Eddi|zuHause> but in sweden, you're looking hard to find a house that DOESN'T have 50mbit 03:53:49 <Flygon> Sweden also barely has any population that isn't from Stockholm 03:54:05 <Flygon> Having the entire country's population inside a single city helps with getting Fibre to everyone xP 03:54:07 <Flygon> Then again... 03:54:22 <Flygon> Australia's one of the single most urbanized countries on the planet and we still fucked that up... 04:48:54 *** liq3 [~liq3@CPE-120-147-178-81.gdfw1.lon.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 04:56:01 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD4EA2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 04:56:18 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD451F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 05:21:52 <Supercheese> I used to have 50+ mbit Internet, but my new provider is more like 20 05:22:02 <Supercheese> California, man do they have high speeds 05:25:19 <Supercheese> Here... not so much 06:03:09 *** TrueBrain_ is now known as TrueBrain 06:25:26 *** Zr40 [~zr40@000128ef.user.oftc.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:25:51 *** Zr40 [~zr40@000128ef.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 07:02:23 *** Hawky [~Hawky@5ED4968C.cm-7-5c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 07:02:37 <Ether_Man> Can the auto replace function be used to add wagons to an entire set of trains as well as just change the existing ones? 07:13:04 <Supercheese> No, don't think so 07:18:47 *** Compu [~quassel@2604:6000:120a:8025:8af:d5e4:ed6e:6856] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:34:54 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@cpe-76-178-136-186.natnow.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Valete omnes] 07:39:02 *** Hawky [~Hawky@5ED4968C.cm-7-5c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:45:44 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 07:52:23 *** smoke_fumus [~smoke_fum@188.35.176.90] has joined #openttd 08:01:59 *** Compu [~quassel@2604:6000:120a:8025:c942:39be:1ac0:391c] has joined #openttd 08:06:36 <Ether_Man> That's... annoying then. Replacing a single engine, to a doubleengine with wagon removal on. Going back to a single engine now, and I have to readd that wagon manually on each and every train >_< 08:08:50 <planetmaker> yes... that would need full-fledged consist replacement, though. Desirable. But not easy to implement 08:11:59 <Ether_Man> Indeed 08:12:01 <V453000> if you get used to it and build your trains "right" from the beginning, you wont even miss it later ;) 08:13:05 <Ether_Man> So what way is right for it to be normal that trains get shorter and shorter as time passes? 08:14:16 <V453000> not necessarily shorter, but many train sets have early wagons to be shorter, and later wagons to be longer 08:14:33 <V453000> regardless, having your trains the same length for all of the game time is best 08:14:47 <V453000> since everything you build needs to work with that length 08:15:22 <Ether_Man> Right. But that does not really change that you're losing wagons every time you change down from a double engine type to a single engine type 08:16:00 <V453000> yeah that is a bad thing ... a reason why NUTS has all engines 1 tile long :) 08:16:10 <V453000> one of them anyway 08:24:26 *** JezK [~jez@2407:7800:400:107f:3db5:daca:8457:e66a] has quit [Quit: :q!] 08:37:50 *** snorre_ [~snorre@89.9.168.191] has joined #openttd 08:39:28 *** sla_ro|master [~sla.ro@95.76.27.245] has joined #openttd 08:39:37 *** snorre [~snorre@89.9.168.191] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:00:16 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host71-41-dynamic.54-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 09:00:32 <Wolf01> hi o/ 09:17:04 *** Hawky [~Hawky@5ED4968C.cm-7-5c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 11:45:22 *** andythenorth [~Andy@194.168.185.226] has joined #openttd 11:45:23 <andythenorth> o/ 11:47:11 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:02:02 *** sla_ro|master [~sla.ro@95.76.27.245] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:42:40 <andythenorth> @seen pikka 12:42:40 <DorpsGek> andythenorth: pikka was last seen in #openttd 1 week, 4 days, 4 hours, 23 minutes, and 10 seconds ago: <Pikka> for sure 12:47:54 <planetmaker> ho :) 12:50:31 <V453000> sup humanz 12:53:56 <andythenorth> lo 12:54:04 * andythenorth ponders a âdaily eventâ GS 12:54:11 <andythenorth> like Busy Bee, but you get one goal per day 12:54:25 <andythenorth> so you play a bit of OpenTTD in the evening or at lunchtime or whatever 12:54:29 <andythenorth> then you stop until next day 12:56:06 *** Hiddenfunstuff [~Geth@a392.ip16.netikka.fi] has joined #openttd 12:58:24 <V453000> openttd tamagochi :D 12:58:41 <andythenorth> pretty much 12:58:43 <V453000> the app should also wake you up in the middle of the night saying your trains are sad and you should feed them 12:58:48 <V453000> pet them 12:58:50 <V453000> walk them 12:58:56 <andythenorth> yeah 12:59:06 <andythenorth> I get woken up by the kids games on my wifeâs phone 12:59:14 <andythenorth> âyour dragons are hungry" 12:59:22 <andythenorth> âyou havenât played angry birds for 2 days" 12:59:28 <V453000> XD 12:59:30 <andythenorth> Yeah, itâs fucking 2am :( 12:59:31 <V453000> lol 12:59:32 <andythenorth> Fuck off 12:59:56 <V453000> I can see the potential in this done with OpenTTD 13:00:17 <andythenorth> itâs quite nice in some of the casual games I play 13:00:31 <andythenorth> they basically have no end point, except âspend money on DLC' 13:00:39 <andythenorth> so a daily goal is a good distraction 13:00:50 <V453000> daily goal = buy new shit 13:01:15 <andythenorth> nah, the good ones you donât have to buy any DLC (if thatâs what you mean) 13:01:24 <andythenorth> but you get some crates and dollars and stuff 13:01:36 <andythenorth> also, eh, the forums have gone shit 13:01:43 <andythenorth> is it new-user season? 13:01:59 <V453000> :) 13:02:54 <V453000> when were the forums not shit? :P 13:03:08 <V453000> /point has been made 13:03:24 <andythenorth> well, itâs new people 13:03:37 <andythenorth> I understand the old people :P 13:03:44 <V453000> end of holiday frenzy? :P 13:03:55 <andythenorth> loads of students, nothing to occupy them? 13:06:14 <V453000> arr 13:06:28 <V453000> its not like I did much else in my student days :P 13:07:00 <andythenorth> or now :P 13:07:25 <V453000> not exactly :P 13:34:55 *** An7I1An [~oftc-webi@adsl92-86-209-152.romtelecom.net] has joined #openttd 13:39:48 *** shirish [~quassel@117.195.102.48] has joined #openttd 14:11:15 *** jjavaholic [~jjavaholi@grahamg63.plus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:18:16 *** TheMask96 [martijn@greed.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:20:10 *** TheMask96 [martijn@pride.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 14:20:38 *** jjavaholic [~jjavaholi@grahamg63.plus.com] has joined #openttd 14:26:50 <supermop> andythenorth: a casual daily goal gs might be the only thing that would even get me to play anymore 14:30:40 *** Belugas [~belugas@00011985.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:30:40 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.230] has joined #openttd 14:30:43 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas] by ChanServ 14:30:56 <Eddi|zuHause> in every game i ever played, introducing daily missions was a sign for the upcoming demise of the game and its community 14:31:36 <Eddi|zuHause> or it was seen that way by the community 14:31:47 *** Alberth [~alberth@2001:981:c6c5:1:be5f:f4ff:feac:e11] has joined #openttd 14:31:50 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 14:36:21 *** andythenorth [~Andy@194.168.185.226] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 14:41:27 *** An7I1An [~oftc-webi@adsl92-86-209-152.romtelecom.net] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:01:42 <supermop> Eddi|zuHause: maybe but the game's demise seems to already be here somewhat for many of us? 15:02:08 <Eddi|zuHause> the game's demise was here already before the project even started 15:03:20 *** Belugas [~belugas@00011985.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:03:20 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.230] has joined #openttd 15:03:23 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas] by ChanServ 15:03:35 <Sacro> You've not built a jinty in over 48 hours 15:05:08 <supermop> jinty is sad 15:05:32 <supermop> kirby paul saga 15:20:44 *** jjavaholic [~jjavaholi@grahamg63.plus.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:25:08 *** andythenorth [~Andy@194.168.185.226] has joined #openttd 15:27:38 <Alberth> hi hi 15:29:25 <peter1138> josh kirby was better than paul kidby 15:30:52 <andythenorth> Eddi|zuHause: was the community right? o_O 15:31:11 <Eddi|zuHause> probably not... :p 15:32:35 *** jjavaholic [~jjavaholi@grahamg63.plus.com] has joined #openttd 15:32:57 <andythenorth> did they declare the sky was falling? 15:34:37 *** Wormnest [~Wormnest@s5596abd2.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 15:38:29 <Wolf01> mmmh, StarMade anyone? 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