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10:39:58 <Alberth> o/ 10:40:24 * andythenorth digging through too many calls :( 10:40:43 <andythenorth> this call stack includes the word âFactoryâ so you know itâs going to be a PITA 10:44:03 *** JezK_ [~jez@2407:7800:400:107f:3db5:daca:8457:e66a] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:44:12 <Wolf01> andy, do you have some time for a suggestion (pixel art)? 10:44:19 <andythenorth> yes 10:44:25 <peter1138> If it has a FactoryFactory... run away... 10:44:37 <andythenorth> or delete it 10:44:39 <andythenorth> itâs my code :P 10:44:45 <Eddi|zuHause> RefactoringFactory 10:44:52 <andythenorth> valid 10:45:23 * andythenorth will put some print() statements in 10:45:27 <andythenorth> and refuse to learn pdb 10:45:50 <Wolf01> andy: http://irclogs.qmsk.net/channels/openttd/date/2015-12-15 about at the half of the page (12:45) 10:45:57 <Eddi|zuHause> what's there to learn about pdb? 10:46:13 <Eddi|zuHause> you only need 4 commands, bt, up, down and p 10:47:40 <andythenorth> Wolf01: you need someone to draw it? 10:47:57 <Wolf01> no, just some suggestions on how to start drawing it 10:48:11 <andythenorth> got a palette of colours? 10:48:11 <Eddi|zuHause> oh, also the way to call it: i usually do "python -i program.py" let it crash, and then "import pdb; pdb.pm()" 10:48:23 <Wolf01> no, i'm starting from scratch 10:48:33 <Wolf01> but i want to keep it cartoon-ish 10:48:34 <andythenorth> I often draw in false colour to get the shape 10:49:10 <andythenorth> for cartoon-ish, try â4 pixels = 1 pixel in the art' 10:49:14 <andythenorth> it will be blockier 10:49:36 <andythenorth> you can also use over-defined edges 10:49:53 <andythenorth> e.g. black edges for shade, not-quite-white colours for highlight 10:49:57 <Wolf01> that for sure 10:52:53 <andythenorth> https://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/7566/HEQS-example-zoomed.png 10:54:15 <Wolf01> any suggestion on what to animate on a top-down view of a tank? 10:54:26 <Wolf01> on isometric view it looks really nice 10:54:41 <andythenorth> turret 10:54:49 <andythenorth> does speed ever change? 10:55:10 <Wolf01> the turret is fixed as the game does not require it moving, the speed changes on the road tiles 10:55:15 <andythenorth> animate exhaust 10:55:36 <andythenorth> I would leave tracks behind it also 10:55:46 <andythenorth> possibly only after turning/starting/stopping 10:55:54 * andythenorth misses game design 10:56:23 <Wolf01> i'll think about that on advanced development stage 10:56:40 <andythenorth> maybe I should learn iOS development :P 10:56:44 <andythenorth> or Unity 10:56:55 <Wolf01> for now i want it just to be a remake of an old nes game 10:57:11 <Wolf01> then i'll add new features 10:58:37 <andythenorth> yay, found the missing import 10:59:17 <Wolf01> http://screensider.com/images/albums/768/XjvDg8.jpg 10:59:19 <Wolf01> this 11:00:35 <andythenorth> retro :) 11:01:00 <Wolf01> also it is fully moddable, for now you need just to keep the right sprite sizes because it will stretch them, in future i'll convert it to a grf-like system where you can define everything 11:01:32 <Wolf01> so i might also steal the old graphics and release a hidden "grf" with it :P 11:07:56 <andythenorth> hmm 11:08:13 <andythenorth> 40 mins of digging through pixa call stacks is still preferable to drawing all cargos for all dump trucks :P 11:14:36 *** ale [aprendiz@0001177c.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 11:15:08 *** Guest1468 is now known as FR^2 11:27:40 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc87201-aztw31-2-0-cust156.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:29:32 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc87201-aztw31-2-0-cust156.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 11:31:35 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@82.210.156.68] has quit [] 11:40:20 *** M-E [~M@ip4da0d6bd.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #openttd 11:45:37 *** eM [~M@ip4da0d6bd.direct-adsl.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:56:36 *** DDR [~David@S0106602ad0773a2e.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:59:01 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-98-14-130-227.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 12:06:55 <__ln__> everybody prepared? lightsabers recharged, etc? 12:08:09 <Eddi|zuHause> has been delayed for about 2 weeks for scheduling reasons 12:09:47 <__ln__> aww 12:10:14 <__ln__> actually, i don't have a lightsaber nor other equipment either. 12:10:36 <__ln__> if i owned Spock ears, i would wear them. but i don't. 12:11:33 <Wolf01> i have cat ears 12:11:52 <Wolf01> a wolf with cat ears... 12:14:07 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-98-14-130-227.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Snail] 12:31:34 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@cpe-76-178-136-186.natnow.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:32:11 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@cpe-76-178-136-186.natnow.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 12:35:49 *** ProfFrink [~proffrink@113.214.115.87.dyn.plus.net] has joined #openttd 12:36:13 *** Netsplit magnet.oftc.net <-> coulomb.oftc.net quits: Nothing4You 12:37:36 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@113.214.115.87.dyn.plus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:37:36 *** ProfFrink is now known as Prof_Frink 12:37:43 *** Netsplit over, joins: Nothing4You 12:51:54 <andythenorth> mercurial is not friends with photoshop :( 12:53:44 <andythenorth> hg st frequently reports changes, for which there is no diff 12:53:47 <Wolf01> adobe is not friend with CVS, the CVS integration wants to do everything by its head 12:53:59 <andythenorth> the only âchangeâ is that the file is sat open in photoshop for a few hours 12:54:23 <andythenorth> this is a newly introduced problem after I upgraded mercurial because I had ancient version 12:57:18 <andythenorth> nvm 13:00:17 <andythenorth> hmm 13:00:24 <andythenorth> accidentally made a 2-truck convoy 13:00:29 <andythenorth> wrong trailer graphics 13:00:32 <andythenorth> looks good though 13:00:36 <andythenorth> moar power per unit 13:01:14 <Wolf01> :D 13:05:28 * andythenorth needs more oil rigs 13:06:44 * andythenorth spends 500million Krone 13:16:40 *** liq3 [liq3@CPE-120-148-51-74.gdfw1.lon.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 13:45:11 *** sim-al2 [~sim-al2@108-221-158-76.lightspeed.mmphtn.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openttd 14:32:59 *** Hiddenfunstuff [~Geth@y32.ip1.anvianet.fi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:33:42 *** Hiddenfunstuff [~Geth@y32.ip1.anvianet.fi] has joined #openttd 15:04:03 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@82.210.156.68] has joined #openttd 15:10:49 *** Xal [~Xal@S0106881fa12987ab.vw.shawcable.net] has joined #openttd 15:14:05 *** ale is now known as Guest1547 15:14:10 *** ale [ale@0001177c.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 15:17:51 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~farci@i59F6A831.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 15:19:31 *** Xal [~Xal@S0106881fa12987ab.vw.shawcable.net] has quit [Quit: cya] 15:21:03 *** Guest1547 [aprendiz@0001177c.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:30:26 <Wolf01> meh, client's site compromised by a backdoor 15:30:33 <andythenorth> :o 15:30:40 <andythenorth> thatâs unusual 15:30:52 <andythenorth> usually itâs compromised because the password is passw0rd 15:31:20 <Wolf01> they just put a malicious script in wp-admin/user 15:31:44 <Wolf01> i don't even know how they were able to do that because i only have ftp access and wp login 15:32:36 <andythenorth> always WP, spoiling christmas 15:33:03 <Wolf01> i decrypted that thing and it was full of php ini commands, sendmail stuff, bruteforce attacks on ftp etc 15:33:29 <Wolf01> then the antivirus punched me in the stomach and deleted the file 15:36:48 *** Biolunar [Biolunar@x4d086238.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #openttd 15:40:55 <Wolf01> http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2439342/mac-anti-malware-app-maker-stored-13-million-customer-details-in-plain-sight hah! 15:41:29 <andythenorth> MacKeeper is not anti-malware 15:41:33 <andythenorth> it _is_ malware 15:41:37 <Wolf01> yes 15:51:11 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 16:14:22 *** Wormnest 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quak 18:21:34 <frosch123> hoin 18:21:44 <andythenorth> maybe this map is done 18:21:51 <andythenorth> 52 years of Arctic Basic 18:22:26 * andythenorth has made enough Volvos and Saabs now 18:28:26 <andythenorth> Alberth: FWIW, Busy Bee seems largely fixed 18:28:40 <andythenorth> the number of repeated goals was low, as a proportion of total goals 18:28:55 <Alberth> great 18:28:56 <andythenorth> and very few non-repeating-but-already-served goals appeared 18:29:39 <Alberth> maybe I should try that arctic basic :) 18:29:44 <andythenorth> maybe :) 18:29:51 <andythenorth> itâs a good 40 year game 18:29:56 <andythenorth> âchemicals go everywhereâ :P 18:32:29 * andythenorth tries to get a good tropic map 18:34:28 <andythenorth> ach forget tropic :P 18:38:14 *** sim-al2 [~sim-al2@108-221-158-76.lightspeed.mmphtn.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:43:09 <__ln__> who would have believed that ________ is _________'s __________! 18:43:34 <frosch123> stop playing cah 18:46:52 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