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00:02:23 <Wolf01> 'night 00:02:28 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 00:10:01 *** JGR_ [~JGR@host109-157-198-162.range109-157.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 00:12:04 *** JGR [~JGR@host109-157-199-250.range109-157.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:12:04 *** JGR_ is now known as JGR 00:13:33 <Eddi|zuHause> argoneus: yeah, i didn't feel like paying 300⬠for a card... 00:14:03 <Eddi|zuHause> so i took this one which was something like 100⬠00:14:24 <argoneus> Eddi|zuHause: well you can't expect a 4 year old 0 card to be good 00:14:38 <argoneus> tbh 00:14:41 <argoneus> KSP isn't very well optimized 00:14:48 <argoneus> and I'd assume it's more your CPU than GPU when it lags 00:15:22 <Eddi|zuHause> well, it was a major step up from my previous one, which was an onboard 4xxx 00:15:46 <Eddi|zuHause> my cpu is quite alright, though 00:15:53 <argoneus> what's your cpu? 00:16:04 <Eddi|zuHause> well, it's also 5 years old now 00:16:33 <Eddi|zuHause> was a phenom II x6 dunnoexactly 00:17:33 <argoneus> ugh, amd 00:17:52 <Eddi|zuHause> Phenom II X6 1055T 6x2.8GHz 00:18:25 <Eddi|zuHause> it was certainly more expensive than the gpu :p 00:18:27 <argoneus> the phenom single core performance isn't amazing 00:18:27 <argoneus> :( 00:18:36 <argoneus> I had a 960T myself 00:18:46 <argoneus> now I have a haswell i5 and it's night and day 00:18:49 <argoneus> granted it was a bit more expensive 00:19:17 <argoneus> AMD sucks at cpu heavy games (read: shitty optimization and bad threading) 00:19:19 <argoneus> it also sucks at emulation 00:22:07 <argoneus> Eddi|zuHause: it's fairly worth it to invest in GPUs though 00:22:21 <argoneus> if you buy the current middle-highend for 0, you can sell it a year later for like 0 00:22:24 <argoneus> and buy another 0 00:22:45 <Eddi|zuHause> that sounds like way too much hassle 00:23:15 <argoneus> (it is) 00:23:18 <argoneus> I'm happy with my GTX 770 atm 00:37:45 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~farci@i59F6AA48.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:47:02 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-98-14-130-227.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 00:52:04 *** JGR_ [~JGR@host109-156-116-240.range109-156.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 00:52:47 *** JGR [~JGR@host109-157-198-162.range109-157.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:52:47 *** JGR_ is now known as JGR 01:08:06 <supermop> my cpu is now 6 years old 01:20:51 <Eddi|zuHause> you need to send it to school then 01:28:55 *** glx_ [~glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:1fb:d12a:b94e:ea92] has joined #openttd 01:28:55 *** glx is now known as Guest434 01:28:55 *** glx_ is now known as glx 01:32:25 <supermop> drinking kolsch out of a tiny glass as intended here 01:32:49 <supermop> was the only good option for filling up my growler this week 01:35:22 *** Guest434 [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:35:30 <Eddi|zuHause> poor thing. 01:56:18 *** Flygon [~Flygon@ppp118-209-109-6.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:10:39 *** day [~day@120.22.5.157] has joined #openttd 02:17:50 *** day_ [~day@101.165.99.116] has joined #openttd 02:17:53 *** day [~day@120.22.5.157] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:19:18 *** Flygon [~Flygon@ppp118-209-109-6.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has joined #openttd 02:36:50 *** liq3 [liq3@CPE-120-148-51-74.gdfw1.lon.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 02:36:52 *** day_ is now known as day 03:03:21 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Bye] 03:19:28 *** Biolunar_ [Biolunar@x4d025b1f.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #openttd 03:26:30 *** Biolunar [Biolunar@x4d085609.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:51:48 *** supermop [~supermop@pool-108-6-12-46.nycmny.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:42:34 *** Flygon [~Flygon@ppp118-209-109-6.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:56:01 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD529C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 05:56:17 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD529C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 06:40:55 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-98-14-130-227.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Snail] 07:11:10 *** Flygon [~Flygon@ppp118-209-109-6.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has joined #openttd 07:51:27 <dihedral> good morning 08:11:25 *** efess [~Efess@c-24-61-64-170.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:00:13 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@95.232.234.56] has joined #openttd 09:00:34 <Wolf01> o/ 09:15:16 * dihedral howls 09:19:28 *** sim-al2 [~sim-al2@108-221-158-76.lightspeed.mmphtn.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:19:28 <dihedral> what nick did Dominik Scherer have here? 09:26:00 <dihedral> nevermind 09:31:07 <planetmaker> "... I mean mainly enabling the 8bpp blitter which many players want to do, and now do through the config which is a bit eww ..." <-- yes... but there's really no reason. The 8bpp blitter nowadays most often doesn't offer much benefit... only thing I'm not sure about atm is palette animation 09:31:26 <planetmaker> ^@ V453000 09:32:01 <planetmaker> as such it's a purely technical setting which users don't have to care about one way or another, as you can use the 8bpp graphics just fine with the default 32bpp blitter 09:32:25 <V453000> well if 32bpp has performance issues, 8bpp helps ... also, when people join a server which uses 32bpp graphics and want to turn them to 8bpp mode, they could 09:34:43 <V453000> especially since 32bpp newgrfs have to supply their 8bpp sprites as well, it is very visual switch, not just technical 09:35:03 <V453000> the fact that 32bpp newgrfs do not give much shit about 8bpp sprites is another story, yeah 09:35:04 <planetmaker> that is the more weired thing really ;) 09:35:14 <planetmaker> the 32bpp newgrfs have to have 8bpp 09:35:51 <V453000> yes, well ... it is kind of understandable, I do not believe 8bpp will ever stop being "the main thing" 09:38:23 <peter1138> we should drop 32bpp 09:38:25 <peter1138> it's crap 09:38:38 <peter1138> also drop extra zoom, that's crap too 09:41:15 <peter1138> shame that opengl is inefficient for this type of game 09:44:57 *** TheMask96 [martijn@lust.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:47:01 *** Hiddenfunstuff [~Geth@y32.ip1.anvianet.fi] has joined #openttd 09:47:14 *** Guest4535 [~frquadrat@2001:41d0:1:f924::1] has left #openttd [Connection reset by peer] 09:48:17 *** Wolf03 [~wolf01@95.232.234.56] has joined #openttd 09:48:18 *** Wolf01 is now known as Guest485 09:48:18 *** Wolf03 is now known as Wolf01 09:49:23 *** TheMask96 [martijn@lust.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 09:54:14 *** Guest485 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:03:34 *** efess [~Efess@c-24-61-64-170.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 10:29:43 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 10:29:46 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai|noir] by ChanServ 10:36:38 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:00:02 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@89.136.141.100] has joined #openttd 12:15:55 *** FR^2 [~frquadrat@2001:41d0:1:f924::1] has joined #openttd 12:30:58 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@cpe-76-178-136-186.natnow.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:31:26 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@cpe-76-178-136-186.natnow.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 13:05:49 *** gnu_jj [~quassel@ipbcc36ea9.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 13:06:11 *** gnu_jj [~quassel@ipbcc36ea9.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has joined #openttd 13:12:49 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@89.136.141.100] has quit [] 13:18:58 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 13:19:01 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 13:25:36 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:39:13 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-98-14-130-227.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 13:54:47 *** M-E [~M@ip4da0d6bd.direct-adsl.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:02:17 *** smoke_fumus [~smoke_fum@188.35.176.90] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 14:15:27 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-98-14-130-227.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Snail] 14:56:02 *** sim-al2 [~sim-al2@dns25-179.cbu.edu] has joined #openttd 14:58:19 *** sim-al2 [~sim-al2@dns25-179.cbu.edu] has quit [] 15:06:04 *** supermop [~supermop@pool-108-6-12-46.nycmny.fios.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 15:13:18 <Flygon> I prefer 8bpp.. 15:13:22 <Flygon> More performance. 15:14:21 *** sim-al2 [~sim-al2@dns25-179.cbu.edu] has joined #openttd 15:18:48 *** DDR [~David@S0106602ad0773a2e.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #openttd 15:21:11 <supermop> use 2bpp then? 15:22:07 *** Alberth [~alberth@2001:981:c6c5:1:be5f:f4ff:feac:e11] has joined #openttd 15:22:10 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 15:30:19 <Rubidium> 0bpp is fastest 15:30:45 <Rubidium> it also reduces the size of OpenTTD significantly because we can remove everything user-interface 15:35:12 <Eddi|zuHause> -b null? 15:35:15 <V453000> XD 15:35:39 <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause: not rigorous enough 15:36:05 <Eddi|zuHause> ./configure --enable-dedicated? 15:36:14 <peter1138> just remove the code 15:36:19 <peter1138> else you might have bugs 15:36:30 <Eddi|zuHause> bugs in dead code are the worst. 15:37:40 <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause: nope, still leaves loading strings and such 15:37:42 <peter1138> they often... roam... 15:51:13 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 15:51:16 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 15:54:29 <Wolf01> now I'm happy, I just purchased 450⬠of LEGO 15:57:01 <Eddi|zuHause> studies show that happiness from objects doesn't last very long 15:57:27 <Eddi|zuHause> (one of the reasons why "more money" doesn't automatically mean "happier") 15:59:05 <Wolf01> but this is LEGO 16:03:22 *** liq3 [liq3@CPE-120-148-51-74.gdfw1.lon.bigpond.net.au] has quit [] 16:10:47 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@89.136.141.100] has joined #openttd 16:25:01 <dihedral> until you tred on it 16:25:44 *** iostat [~iostat@p2003006A6C5EDD00CDCE772287554A27.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 16:42:13 *** frosch123 [~frosch@x4d00b7cc.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #openttd 16:44:48 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~farci@i59F6BCB0.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 16:49:45 <Alberth> hoi 16:51:26 *** TheMask96 [martijn@lust.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:52:57 *** TheMask96 [martijn@envy.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 16:59:57 <frosch123> hola 17:01:39 <Wolf01> o/ 17:04:26 *** sim-al2 [~sim-al2@dns25-179.cbu.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:09:31 <frosch123> everyday i read "Australian AuzTrains and NSFWTrains" ... 17:09:35 <frosch123> i had too much internet 17:11:39 * frosch123 wonders whether BRIX ships will just be boxes with "don't use ships" 17:11:43 <Alberth> or not enough topics :p 17:12:58 <Alberth> trains on water :p 17:13:16 <Alberth> hmm, needs articulated ships then :p 17:15:28 *** Progman [~progman@p57A185D9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 17:17:25 <Eddi|zuHause> isn't that already wetrails? 17:18:01 <Eddi|zuHause> well, in TTO you could run trains on water, but only on diagonal shore sections 17:27:50 *** DDR [~David@S0106602ad0773a2e.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:28:23 *** DDR [~David@S0106602ad0773a2e.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #openttd 17:30:47 *** glx_ [~glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:e14e:f95:f81a:d767] has joined #openttd 17:30:47 *** glx is now known as Guest541 17:30:47 *** glx_ is now known as glx 17:37:12 *** Guest541 [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:49:43 *** Biolunar_ [Biolunar@x4d025b1f.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 18:10:41 *** iostat [~iostat@p2003006A6C5EDD00CDCE772287554A27.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:10:53 *** iostat [~iostat@p2003006A6C5EDD00CDCE772287554A27.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 18:11:16 *** Wormnest [~Wormnest@s5596abd2.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 18:14:46 *** Progman_ [~progman@p57A18711.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 18:19:46 *** Progman [~progman@p57A185D9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:20:00 *** Progman_ is now known as Progman 18:59:03 *** sim-al2 [~sim-al2@108-221-158-76.lightspeed.mmphtn.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openttd 19:10:11 *** oskari89 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 19:16:27 *** pugi [~pugi@dyndsl-091-096-037-007.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 19:29:28 *** Aphanasiy [~oftc-webi@91.135.158.218] has joined #openttd 19:29:34 <Aphanasiy> Anybody here? 19:29:43 <Wolf01> no? 19:30:03 <Aphanasiy> hello 19:30:09 <Wolf01> hello 19:30:59 <Aphanasiy> could you, please help me to find some russian mods, except xUSSR 19:31:56 <Wolf01> I don't know any 19:32:25 <frosch123> Aphanasiy: forums.ttdrussia.net <- try there 19:32:38 <frosch123> oh, it does note exist anymore? 19:33:05 <Aphanasiy> it's died, so I'm here 19:33:19 <frosch123> then, i doubt there are any except xussr 19:34:04 <Aphanasiy> any ways to connect with ttdtussia admin? 19:34:13 <frosch123> i don't know them 19:34:38 <Aphanasiy> maybe try to find out from Only For Friends? 19:36:18 <frosch123> Aphanasiy: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=1067984#p1067984 <- most are on ttdrussia 19:36:34 <frosch123> if that site is gone, i don't know where they could have went 19:36:40 <frosch123> they did not show up on tt-forums 19:41:29 *** Progman [~progman@p57A18711.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:52:45 *** gelignite [~gelignite@x4db5a5e9.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #openttd 19:58:19 *** Mucht [~Martin@000128e2.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 20:07:39 <supermop> hmm you cant build a bridge under a bridge 20:07:54 <frosch123> you can build a bridgehead under a bridge 20:08:49 <supermop> was wondering if i could have a rail deck under a road deck 20:08:54 <supermop> alas i cannot 20:09:21 *** supermop [~supermop@pool-108-6-12-46.nycmny.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:09:50 *** supermop [~supermop@pool-108-6-12-46.nycmny.fios.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 20:11:29 <supermop> oops 20:11:45 <supermop> wish you could start a game directly from SE 20:13:55 <Wolf01> iirc you could build some types of bridges over some others, but with some limitations (2 levels between the bridges) or that was discarded because of glitches? 20:16:06 <supermop> doesnt seem to work even with 3 levels btw 20:16:29 <Wolf01> have you tried with a suspended bridge? 20:17:25 <supermop> yeah 20:19:33 <supermop> brb need to buy either a 150cm board or aluminum L-angle as the joists in my ceiling go the wrong way relative to direction i want to suspend my bike 20:22:38 <Wolf01> mmmh I bet that feature was in MiniIN 20:36:55 *** FLHerne [~flh@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 20:39:51 *** Aphanasiy [~oftc-webi@91.135.158.218] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:57:08 <supermop> patchpack? 20:57:15 <Wolf01> yeah 20:57:39 <Wolf01> I was really addicted to patches at that time 20:58:38 <Wolf01> now I play every game vanilla, with some exceptions (skyrim, minecraft...) 21:04:17 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 21:04:20 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai|noir] by ChanServ 21:07:16 <supermop> i play vanilla or similar up until a naging feeling tells me it would be much nicer if i just had one different building or train etc in there, 21:07:46 <supermop> then i spend a couple hundred hours down a rabbit hole drawing or modelling stuff on that idea 21:08:20 <supermop> the i realized it's a huge pain, and give up for a few months 21:08:53 <supermop> few months later i'm bored and think, ok i'll just play a quick, small vanilla game 21:08:59 <supermop> and cycle repeats 21:11:16 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:15:00 *** Wormnest_ [~Wormnest@s5596abd2.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 21:21:46 *** Wormnest [~Wormnest@s5596abd2.adsl.online.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:41:22 *** Alberth [~alberth@2001:981:c6c5:1:be5f:f4ff:feac:e11] has left #openttd [] 21:50:29 *** __builtin [~me@cpe-71-71-39-6.triad.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: ?f u cn rd ths, u cn gt a gd jb n sftwr tstng.? 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Anonymous] 21:53:38 *** Speedy [~speedy@the.wrong.domain.name] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:55:01 *** iostat [~iostat@p2003006A6C5EDD00CDCE772287554A27.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: iostat] 22:01:46 *** __builtin [~me@cpe-71-71-39-6.triad.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 22:01:53 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-98-14-130-227.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 22:02:59 *** __builtin [~me@cpe-71-71-39-6.triad.res.rr.com] has quit [] 22:08:23 *** __builtin [~me@cpe-71-71-39-6.triad.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 22:10:13 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-98-14-130-227.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:14:06 <supermop> forgot how to cheat 22:26:43 *** oskari89 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 22:49:50 *** frosch123 [~frosch@x4d00b7cc.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Quit: be yourself, except: if you have the opportunity to be a unicorn, then be a unicorn] 22:58:14 <Eddi|zuHause> @calc 2*290*sqrt(2) 22:58:14 <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause: 820.243866176 23:00:20 <Eddi|zuHause> @calc 2*890*sqrt(2) 23:00:20 <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause: 2517.30014102 23:00:27 <Eddi|zuHause> @calc 890*sqrt(2) 23:00:27 <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause: 1258.65007051 23:00:37 <Eddi|zuHause> @calc 870*sqrt(2) 23:00:37 <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause: 1230.36579926 23:01:34 <argoneus> bleh, visual studio can't into makefiles 23:08:13 *** Wormnest_ [~Wormnest@s5596abd2.adsl.online.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:21:14 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@89.136.141.100] has quit [] 23:29:42 <Wolf01> 'night 23:29:52 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.]