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00:00:45 *** namad7 [aaaaa@pool-108-17-112-179.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [] 00:02:57 *** Wormnest [~Wormnest@s5596abd2.adsl.online.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:09:07 *** liq3 [liq3@CPE-120-148-51-74.gdfw1.lon.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 00:16:54 *** Progman [~progman@p57A19024.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:22:31 *** liq3 [liq3@CPE-120-148-51-74.gdfw1.lon.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:22:38 *** liq3 [liq3@CPE-120-148-51-74.gdfw1.lon.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 00:38:47 <Wolf01> 'night 00:38:50 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 00:40:43 <Hydros> evening 00:40:46 <Hydros> anyone around? 00:44:28 <Mazur> Of course. 00:44:47 * Mazur just returned from hours of TV. 00:44:50 <Hydros> there's an interesting topic that has come up, which licence to choose for the new identity/logo gfx 00:44:56 <Hydros> I thought about CC initially, naturally 00:45:20 <Hydros> how do we release all the game gfx, everything is CC? 00:45:39 <Mazur> Ah, an area which I have not involved myself in, yet. 00:45:59 <glx> game gfx are a mix of image and code 00:46:07 <Hydros> the newgfx packs, yes. 00:46:18 <Hydros> ah I see so the whole pack HAS to be released as CC 00:46:27 <Hydros> well, matching licence of the whole project, GPL 00:46:34 <Mazur> Not GNU Library thingy? 00:46:48 <Hydros> see I was thinking, CC for identity gfx is actually not appropriate and has no advantage 00:47:18 <glx> but many licences are used for newgrf files 00:47:54 <Hydros> right, newGRF are addons they aren't part of the project so they don't need to comply with licensing requirements 01:19:31 *** Hiddenfunstuff [~Geth@y32.ip1.anvianet.fi] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- s0 d4Mn l33t |t'z 5c4rY!] 01:24:31 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~farci@i59F6B430.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 01:30:46 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~farci@i59F6BE3E.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:55:13 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@cpe-76-178-136-186.natnow.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 02:04:51 *** Hydros [Hydros@188-230-140-226.dynamic.t-2.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:17:52 *** Snail_ [~jacopocol@cpe-98-14-130-227.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 02:23:03 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-98-14-130-227.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:23:03 *** Snail_ is now known as Snail 03:16:37 *** Biolunar_ [Biolunar@x5d8231c5.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #openttd 03:21:15 *** myztic [~myztic@0002010f.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 03:21:30 <myztic> is the openttd tutorial series (master hellish) any good 03:21:49 <myztic> on first glance it at least seems to cover most of openttd 03:22:05 <myztic> (mean the series on youtube) 03:23:34 *** Biolunar [Biolunar@x4d025b1f.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:32:33 *** smoke_fumus [~smoke_fum@188.35.176.90] has joined #openttd 03:32:34 *** smoke_fumus|2 [~smoke_fum@188.35.176.90] has joined #openttd 03:38:36 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Bye] 03:49:30 *** smoke_fumus [~smoke_fum@188.35.176.90] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 04:02:39 *** Flygon [~Flygon@ppp118-209-109-6.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:12:52 *** Flygon [~Flygon@ppp118-209-109-6.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has joined #openttd 04:15:37 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-98-14-130-227.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Snail] 04:37:58 *** DDR [~David@S0106602ad0773a2e.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:40:25 *** Pikka [~Octomom@106-69-113-24.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #openttd 05:09:48 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~farci@i59F6B430.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:56:01 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD529C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 05:56:16 *** mntasauri [~motesorri@192.73.232.107] has quit [Quit: mntasauri] 05:56:18 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD529C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 06:16:06 <supermop> yo Pikka 06:29:00 <supermop> later 06:37:04 *** supermop [~supermop@pool-108-6-12-46.nycmny.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:01:37 *** Biolunar [Biolunar@x5d8209c1.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #openttd 07:08:36 *** Biolunar_ [Biolunar@x5d8231c5.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:13:13 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@89.136.141.100] has joined #openttd 07:13:54 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc87201-aztw31-2-0-cust156.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 07:17:46 *** Alberth [~alberth@2001:981:c6c5:1:be5f:f4ff:feac:e11] has joined #openttd 07:17:49 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 07:18:17 <andythenorth> o/ 07:29:20 <peter1138> brrr 07:29:29 <peter1138> so much snow... 07:29:41 <peter1138> well probably just a thin layer 07:30:00 *** Pokka [~Octomom@106-69-113-24.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #openttd 07:30:30 <andythenorth> snow? 07:30:32 <andythenorth> pokka also? 07:30:36 <andythenorth> all the things at once 07:32:09 *** day_ [~day@101.165.99.116] has joined #openttd 07:33:51 <V453000> sup humies 07:36:17 <andythenorth> FIRS innit 07:36:23 <andythenorth> also maybe Horse 07:36:37 *** Pikka [~Octomom@106-69-113-24.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:37:29 *** myztic [~myztic@0002010f.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:38:00 *** day [~day@101.165.99.116] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:39:44 *** myztic [~myztic@0002010f.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 07:40:12 *** day_ [~day@101.165.99.116] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:42:11 *** Pikka [~Octomom@106-69-113-24.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #openttd 07:45:01 *** day [~day@101.165.99.116] has joined #openttd 07:48:11 *** Pokka [~Octomom@106-69-113-24.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:57:56 *** myztic [~myztic@0002010f.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.2] 08:23:23 *** myztic [~myztic@0002010f.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 08:31:18 *** iostat [~iostat@p2003006A6C5EDD006D144C7503D05E65.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 08:36:41 *** myztic [~myztic@0002010f.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.2] 08:40:42 <Pikka> pokka or pikka 08:41:03 <Pikka> hello andythenorth and V and others 08:55:57 <Alberth> moin 08:57:52 *** Progman [~progman@p57A192AB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 09:01:47 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 09:01:50 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 09:05:59 <Mazur> By Grabthar's Hammer, it _is_ a good morning! 09:08:33 *** zeknurn` [~sup@hd9483bd7.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 09:08:35 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:11:51 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483bd7.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:23:37 <V453000> heyo 09:26:00 <Eddi|zuHause> is there a quantifyable threshold for when a morning is "good"? 09:27:19 <andythenorth> what ho Pikka 09:27:22 <andythenorth> how are you? 09:27:55 <Eddi|zuHause> we had like 3mm of snow... 09:34:57 *** tycoondemon [~ashnohoe@D97B8CD4.cm-3-4c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:35:11 *** tycoondemon [~ashnohoe@D97B8CD4.cm-3-4c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 09:40:30 <andythenorth> cargo label for 'edible oil' ? 09:41:03 <andythenorth> EOIL? 09:43:17 <andythenorth> ha ha 09:43:32 <andythenorth> so the newgrf wiki blocks safari, but not chrome 09:43:38 <andythenorth> bit special 09:44:50 <andythenorth> ach no, neither work, /me was wrong 09:46:03 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-097-074.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 10:00:08 *** sim-al2 [~sim-al2@108-221-158-76.lightspeed.mmphtn.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:00:17 *** roidal [~roland@62-46-143-128.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 10:13:30 <andythenorth> V453000 what doing? o_O 10:13:34 <Pikka> weren't there oilseeds or something before? 10:14:15 <Pikka> in ECS? 10:14:49 <andythenorth> probly 10:14:57 <andythenorth> this is the squishy stuff you cook chips in though 10:15:02 <Pikka> otherwise just make it livestock like UKRS milk ;) 10:15:07 <andythenorth> yes that 10:16:09 <andythenorth> Pikka: have you been away working for money? o_O 10:16:13 <andythenorth> or uni? 10:16:23 <Pikka> working 10:16:36 <Pikka> and from march I will be working + uni 10:16:50 <andythenorth> no more buses? 10:17:39 <Pikka> nope. only vans. 10:18:15 <andythenorth> transport co-ordinator? 10:18:36 <Pikka> postman pat. :) 10:19:43 <Eddi|zuHause> how is oil livestock? animals only produce solid (saturated) fats, liquid (unsaturated) fats come from plants or fish 10:19:53 <andythenorth> same way milk is :) 10:20:00 <andythenorth> not 10:20:02 <Pikka> it isn't, but putting inappropriate things in tankers is a tradition 10:20:51 <Eddi|zuHause> solid/liquid at room temperature 10:23:35 <andythenorth> a silly tradition :) 10:24:13 <andythenorth> Pikka: copper refinery http://www.tt-forums.net/download/file.php?id=188654 10:24:15 <andythenorth> such pixels 10:35:53 <V453000> andythenorth: enormous amount of progress with BRIX lately 10:36:04 <V453000> not much super visible stuff, but rather under the hood technical shit 10:36:10 <V453000> it is great 10:39:54 <andythenorth> yay 10:40:27 <andythenorth> how do I make this not just same tank sprite on every tile? 10:40:28 <andythenorth> http://www.arabianoilandgas.com/pictures/gallery/Places/HSTterminal_singapore_onlin.jpg 10:45:00 *** iostat [~iostat@p2003006A6C5EDD006D144C7503D05E65.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:45:12 *** iostat [~iostat@p2003006A6C5EDD006D144C7503D05E65.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 10:46:14 *** funnel [~funnel@0001c7d4.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:49:27 <V453000> have them in groups I guess 10:53:25 * andythenorth works on it 10:53:30 <andythenorth> eh I can do pipes and stuff 10:58:11 *** Wormnest [~Wormnest@s5596abd2.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 11:14:10 *** oskari89 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 11:16:50 *** Hiddenfunstuff [~Geth@y32.ip1.anvianet.fi] has joined #openttd 11:29:37 <argoneus> turns out VS15 is not very good software 11:30:01 <argoneus> you need to enable microsoft language extensions to compile code that uses the stdlib 11:30:04 <argoneus> or rather link 11:30:07 <argoneus> else you get hundreds of linker errors 11:30:45 <Eddi|zuHause> is there even such a thing as "very good software"? 11:31:50 <argoneus> Eddi|zuHause: ottd 11:31:54 <argoneus> also look at this 11:31:55 <argoneus> https://connect.microsoft.com/VisualStudio/feedback/details/1331482/bug-in-stl 11:32:02 *** Clockworker [~Clockwork@2804:14d:2c82:1d43:64c4:6866:5bbd:2eae] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:32:12 <argoneus> how does this even happen 11:32:14 <Eddi|zuHause> ottd is clearly terribly designed software that barely holds together 11:32:36 <argoneus> ottd seems well specified to me 11:32:47 <argoneus> bit-perfect tailored code 11:33:22 <andythenorth> ha ha ha ha 11:33:27 <Alberth> :D 11:34:23 <argoneus> :( 11:34:26 <argoneus> a man can dream, ok 11:35:02 <Eddi|zuHause> ottd is a giant pile of historically grown wrong design decisions 11:35:19 <argoneus> time to rewrite it in haskell 11:35:39 <Alberth> ha ha ha :D 11:36:24 <Alberth> you will soon find out real-world programs and functional programming don't go well together :p 11:36:36 <andythenorth> yes but can you mathematically prove that? 11:36:45 <argoneus> but people over in #haskell say how great funcprog is for real-world problems 11:36:48 <andythenorth> functional programming is pure 11:36:53 <andythenorth> everything is contractual 11:37:00 <argoneus> that you can define a domain specific language for your problem pretty much 11:37:01 <andythenorth> there is no chance of anything muting state behind your back 11:37:05 <argoneus> and then it's easy to maintain 11:37:08 <argoneus> n-no? 11:37:12 <Eddi|zuHause> i have used functional-ish concepts in my python programs 11:37:25 <andythenorth> Eddi|zuHause: functional-ish doesn't count 11:37:53 <andythenorth> nothing but _pure_ functional programming will save us from the clear failure of OO concepts and practice 11:37:58 <andythenorth> it's mathematically provable 11:38:07 <argoneus> tbh 11:38:10 <argoneus> OO can be limiting 11:38:23 <argoneus> it forces you to think within a certain mindset 11:38:26 <argoneus> that may not make sense for your problem 11:38:27 <Eddi|zuHause> and functional is not limiting? 11:38:34 <Eddi|zuHause> or forcing you into a mindset? 11:38:35 <argoneus> Eddi|zuHause: I haven't done funcprog enough to comment on that 11:38:40 <argoneus> but from what they say not really 11:38:44 <argoneus> that's just parroting though 11:39:02 <andythenorth> from boilerplate import * 11:39:17 <Eddi|zuHause> functional programming is used in universities around the planet do break the minds of young programmers. 11:39:57 <Eddi|zuHause> s/do/to/ 11:41:35 <Alberth> it's a nice paradigm, but it believes programs are simple input/output functions, which just fails in real world 11:41:40 <Eddi|zuHause> because universities want you to un-learn all the misconceptions you have from dabbling in your early programming days 11:43:24 <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, most of my "real world" programs are processes. i.e. you have a constant stream of inputs and a constant stream of outputs, and it never terminates. 11:45:53 <argoneus> that's where monads come in :> 11:47:47 *** Alberth [~alberth@2001:981:c6c5:1:be5f:f4ff:feac:e11] has left #openttd [] 11:48:08 <andythenorth> V453000: https://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/7614/liquids_terminal_1.png 11:48:10 <andythenorth> o_O 11:52:45 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~farci@i59F6B430.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 11:53:55 <andythenorth> this one is accident, but looks more wtf? https://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/7615/liquids_terminal_2.png 12:01:36 <V453000> looks nice 12:01:41 <V453000> the gray balls look flat 12:01:58 <V453000> the bottom right side needs shadows I think 12:03:50 <andythenorth> probly does 12:04:01 <andythenorth> those things are used in about 50 different industries :P 12:04:29 <andythenorth> copy-pasteo eh? 12:04:48 <V453000> yeah I know 12:04:48 <V453000> doesnt make them any better :P 12:05:44 * andythenorth should fix 12:06:03 <V453000> btw I will probably have various releases of BRIX, with various landscape colours 12:06:33 <V453000> so people can choose between desaturated/green/darker green/desert-ish/... 12:09:12 <andythenorth> nice 12:10:21 <V453000> I got it all automated, so I just need to figure out how to change the materials to the various colours with as low amount of effort as possible 12:13:02 <andythenorth> I like this layout enough https://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/7616/liquids_terminal_3.png 12:13:10 <andythenorth> maybe that's done, for now at least 12:13:43 <V453000> looks grate 12:13:47 <V453000> still them balls though :P 12:13:51 <andythenorth> something a bit off about it 12:13:52 <andythenorth> dunno what 12:13:53 <andythenorth> nvm 12:14:00 <andythenorth> needs a tanker barge is one thing 12:14:04 <V453000> shadow at the bottom right is missing 12:14:32 <V453000> and perhaps some on the right/top right as well 12:14:46 <V453000> to make the edges darker 12:14:58 <andythenorth> lacks definitiion? 12:18:13 <V453000> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/20419525/liquids_terminal_3edit.png 12:18:30 <V453000> probably needs it also a bit at the top 12:18:37 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 12:18:53 <andythenorth> better 12:18:57 <Wolf01> o/ 12:19:42 <V453000> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/20419525/liquids_terminal_3edit2.png 12:20:02 <andythenorth> yeah that 12:20:12 * andythenorth needs it in a cutout png :P 12:20:12 <V453000> feel free to use it :) 12:20:17 <V453000> haha 12:20:36 <V453000> where is the sprite? 12:21:59 <V453000> lol one RAWR png is 75 MB XD 12:22:02 <V453000> all sprites for one climate 12:22:04 <andythenorth> https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/entry/src/graphics/industries/liquids_terminal_1.png 12:22:22 <V453000> and do you have a sprite of 1 bally thing? 12:22:35 <V453000> me bets they are copypasted 12:25:16 *** frosch123 [~frosch@x5f7465c0.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #openttd 12:27:02 <andythenorth> all copypasted 12:27:12 <andythenorth> I don't have a single one 12:27:21 <andythenorth> but do the front one, I'll figure out the other 3 12:28:09 <andythenorth> frosch123: http://tropico.wikia.com/wiki/Smuggler%27s_Dock o_O 12:28:12 <V453000> I did the front one in the screenshot already :P 12:28:26 <andythenorth> it's got AA crap in it :) 12:28:30 <V453000> k 12:28:32 <andythenorth> maybe from the screenshot or something? 12:28:44 <V453000> yeah idk what screenshot software are you using 12:28:53 <V453000> will fix the one in the actual sprite 12:29:09 <V453000> need to make model for road crossing now, will do your sprite when it renders 12:29:23 *** day [~day@101.165.99.116] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:29:39 <andythenorth> fanks :) 12:29:49 <andythenorth> anyone played tropico? 12:29:52 * andythenorth considers it 12:30:00 *** day [~day@101.165.99.116] has joined #openttd 12:30:59 <frosch123> join 12:31:15 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@cpe-76-178-136-186.natnow.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:31:59 <frosch123> hmm 12:32:00 <Wolf01> tropico is fun, but I never managed to win :D 12:32:01 <frosch123> moin 12:32:05 <Wolf01> o/ 12:32:46 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@cpe-76-178-136-186.natnow.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 12:51:24 *** gelignite [~gelignite@f049130201.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 12:58:02 *** day [~day@101.165.99.116] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:02:09 <V453000> andythenorth: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/20419525/liquids_terminal_1.png 13:02:35 <V453000> I believe that should do it 13:10:24 <andythenorth> nice :) 13:11:55 <V453000> feel free to use in any way you like ... I also left there the sources for stuff so you can reuse it individually :P 13:13:02 <andythenorth> going to copy-paste to all the other spritesheets using it :) 13:19:39 <andythenorth> looks *much* better in game 13:19:40 <andythenorth> thanks 13:21:14 *** Alberth [~alberth@2001:981:c6c5:1:be5f:f4ff:feac:e11] has joined #openttd 13:21:17 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 13:22:38 *** Clockworker [~Clockwork@189.73.141.98] has joined #openttd 13:25:15 *** Hydros [Hydros@188-230-140-226.dynamic.t-2.net] has joined #openttd 13:25:25 <Hydros> howdy 13:26:36 <Alberth> hi hi 13:40:34 <andythenorth> bbl 13:40:35 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc87201-aztw31-2-0-cust156.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 14:13:55 *** Hydros [Hydros@188-230-140-226.dynamic.t-2.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:16:08 *** Biolunar [Biolunar@x5d8209c1.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 14:25:34 *** smoke_fumus|2 [~smoke_fum@188.35.176.90] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 14:31:12 *** Pikka [~Octomom@106-69-113-24.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:44:12 *** DDR [~David@S0106602ad0773a2e.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #openttd 15:37:19 *** supermop [~supermop@pool-108-6-12-46.nycmny.fios.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 16:23:01 *** day [~day@101.165.99.116] has joined #openttd 16:31:46 *** day [~day@101.165.99.116] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:55:12 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 16:55:15 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 17:00:45 *** liq3 [liq3@CPE-120-148-51-74.gdfw1.lon.bigpond.net.au] has quit [] 17:18:54 *** funnel [~funnel@0001c7d4.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 17:38:55 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-98-14-130-227.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 18:37:19 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc87201-aztw31-2-0-cust156.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 18:45:45 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r27499 /trunk/src/lang (catalan.txt korean.txt) (2016-01-17 19:45:36 +0100 ) 18:45:46 <DorpsGek> -Update from Eints: 18:45:47 <DorpsGek> korean: 34 changes by telk5093 18:45:48 <DorpsGek> catalan: 10 changes by juanjo 18:46:41 *** Wormnest [~Wormnest@s5596abd2.adsl.online.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:46:58 *** Wormnest [~Wormnest@s5596abd2.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 18:51:49 <andythenorth> xo/ 18:52:34 <Alberth> hi hi 19:03:11 *** sim-al2 [~sim-al2@108-221-158-76.lightspeed.mmphtn.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openttd 19:07:05 * andythenorth pixels 19:07:53 <V453000> :) 19:22:32 <Wolf01> meh, no diablo this evening, blizzy ran out of servers :( 19:23:56 <V453000> xd 19:24:40 <frosch123> has there always been a mapeditor in F ? 19:24:44 <frosch123> just noticed it 19:25:01 <frosch123> (not that I would care, generated maps are better) 19:29:47 <V453000> I think there was, at least for a long time 19:29:49 *** roidal [~roland@62-46-143-128.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.3] 19:30:04 <V453000> but yeah I never used it either 19:30:05 <andythenorth> I wish I hadn't upgraded mercurial :( 19:30:06 <V453000> but yeah I never used it either 19:30:53 *** frosch123 [~frosch@x5f7465c0.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:31:01 * andythenorth is having 'nothing works' trouble :P 19:31:47 <V453000> love that 19:31:50 <V453000> updates ftw 19:32:01 <V453000> luckily I never updated tortoise hg 19:32:04 <V453000> didnt dare 19:32:25 <V453000> if tortoise would fuck up, I would probably just never fix it XD 19:34:05 <andythenorth> hg can't understand graphics files anymore 19:34:14 <andythenorth> so it just constantly reports them as changed 19:34:21 <andythenorth> making hg status useless 19:36:52 <Alberth> the editor writes meta data in it? 19:37:14 *** frosch123 [~frosch@x4d01b801.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #openttd 19:37:28 <Alberth> wb 19:40:22 <andythenorth> probably does 19:40:39 <andythenorth> it's frustrating, because hg status can see the change, but hg commit can't 19:40:47 <andythenorth> so I have non-removable, non-commitable changes 19:41:07 <andythenorth> the only solution I've found is to rm -r src, then hg revert --all 19:41:17 <andythenorth> which is a horrible workflow 19:42:04 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~farci@i59F6B430.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:51:16 <Alberth> huh, that's weird 19:51:37 <Alberth> what does "hg diff" say? https://www.mercurial-scm.org/wiki/FAQ/CommonProblems 19:52:03 <Alberth> "hg status shows changed files but hg diff doesn't!" 19:56:09 <andythenorth> zero diff 19:56:26 <glx> multiple parents maybe then 19:56:57 <andythenorth> how does one get multiple parents in hg? 19:57:13 <glx> after a merge 20:01:07 <andythenorth> is this why I was warned to never merge in hg? 20:06:02 <Alberth> hg diff --git (or is that standard in your setup?) 20:11:16 <andythenorth> I tried it :) 20:11:18 <andythenorth> zero diff 20:13:34 <andythenorth> biab 20:13:36 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc87201-aztw31-2-0-cust156.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 20:31:22 *** Wolf01 is now known as Guest841 20:31:22 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 20:34:28 <V453000> lol my highscore table is empty :d 20:34:38 *** Guest841 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:38:01 <Alberth> work to do :) 20:38:19 <Alberth> mine is empty too btw, I never finish openttd :) 20:39:52 <V453000> I used to have some but myeah :D 20:40:14 <V453000> trying to upload BRIX screenshots fails badly, wifi fucked up :( 20:41:59 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@89.136.141.100] has quit [] 20:42:26 <V453000> BRIX is 12,5 GB folder atm :D 20:42:32 <V453000> fuck humans 20:42:40 <Alberth> quite :) 20:43:04 <V453000> almost 10GB is in 3D files though, which as latest version are only like 250 MB 20:43:07 <Alberth> soo many pixzelz 20:43:24 <V453000> rest is sprites and renders though 20:44:52 <Alberth> good night 20:45:00 *** Alberth [~alberth@2001:981:c6c5:1:be5f:f4ff:feac:e11] has left #openttd [] 20:45:20 *** Clockworker_ [~Clockwork@200-102-67-245.paemt706.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has joined #openttd 20:52:39 *** Clockworker [~Clockwork@189.73.141.98] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:59:25 *** frosch123 [~frosch@x4d01b801.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Quit: be yourself, except: if you have the opportunity to be a unicorn, then be a unicorn] 21:06:42 *** skybon [~artem@176.77.88.70] has joined #openttd 21:09:43 *** oskari89 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 21:23:17 *** Conductor_Cat [~Conductor@pool-108-56-9-123.washdc.east.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 21:28:23 *** ConductorCat [~Conductor@pool-108-56-9-123.washdc.east.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:38:28 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-98-14-130-227.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Snail] 21:38:29 *** day [~day@101.165.99.116] has joined #openttd 21:40:02 <argoneus> it turns out 21:40:12 <argoneus> when you want to code something, and you're not sure how to structure it properly 21:40:27 <argoneus> instead of trying to make up a complex design, just code things that work and refactor as needed 21:40:40 <argoneus> ._. 21:46:34 *** day [~day@101.165.99.116] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:51:36 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483bd7.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 21:56:37 *** zeknurn` [~sup@hd9483bd7.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:56:37 *** zeknurn is now known as zeknurn` 22:00:28 *** iostat [~iostat@p2003006A6C5EDD006D144C7503D05E65.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: iostat] 22:21:53 *** gelignite [~gelignite@f049130201.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: http://bit.ly/1kso8Ta] 22:41:11 *** Biolunar [Biolunar@x5d8209c1.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #openttd 22:46:37 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-98-14-130-227.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 23:05:25 *** Wormnest [~Wormnest@s5596abd2.adsl.online.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:06:15 *** Markk_ [mark@h30n15-nt-a11.ias.bredband.telia.com] has joined #openttd 23:07:46 *** Markk [mark@h30n15-nt-a11.ias.bredband.telia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:07:46 *** Markk_ is now known as Markk 23:17:01 *** JezK [~jez@2407:7800:400:107f:3db5:daca:8457:e66a] has joined #openttd 23:24:33 *** Progman [~progman@p57A192AB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:32:27 *** JezK [~jez@2407:7800:400:107f:3db5:daca:8457:e66a] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:38:01 *** skybon [~artem@176.77.88.70] has quit [Quit: skybon] 23:41:00 *** JezK [~jez@2407:7800:400:1065:a7e6:5421:1af9:6c06] has joined #openttd