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00:02:30 <ST2> well, which version on server/client 00:02:32 <ST2> ? 00:02:53 <ST2> because, by default, there's no option to sent PM to itself 00:04:01 *** Biolunar has joined #openttd 00:04:07 <quiznilo> OpenTTD jgrpp-0.18.0-35-gab22cfbc8 00:04:26 <ST2> so you know where to report the bug :) 00:04:31 <quiznilo> :) 00:04:46 <quiznilo> check scrot, I tried to send a PM to the server 00:05:07 <quiznilo> and I betcha this happens in vanilla ottd also 00:05:15 <ST2> nop 00:06:18 <ST2> that's why I asked which version you were using - on vanilla works as intended :) 00:07:08 <quiznilo> I will let the furry know that his patchset has a bug then 00:12:31 <supermop> ok no cargo yet, but i've drawn all the remaining trolley trucks 00:25:39 *** quiznilo has quit IRC 00:43:27 *** HerzogDeXtEr has joined #openttd 00:48:31 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 has quit IRC 00:58:23 *** Flygon_ has joined #openttd 01:05:15 *** Flygon has quit IRC 01:44:32 *** chomwitt has joined #openttd 02:15:15 *** glx has quit IRC 02:17:29 *** Snail has joined #openttd 03:58:13 *** tokai|noir has joined #openttd 03:58:13 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai|noir 04:05:06 *** tokai has quit IRC 04:12:53 *** Snail has quit IRC 04:49:30 *** cosmobird has joined #openttd 05:14:53 *** cHawk has quit IRC 05:30:42 *** Coobies has quit IRC 06:19:30 *** cHawk has joined #openttd 06:33:44 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttd 06:38:08 *** cHawk has quit IRC 06:45:05 *** Progman has joined #openttd 06:50:09 *** Hiddenfunstuff has joined #openttd 07:12:00 *** FLHerne has joined #openttd 07:14:21 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 07:20:47 *** cHawk has joined #openttd 07:20:51 <andythenorth> o/ 07:23:07 *** cHawk has quit IRC 07:28:41 *** cHawk has joined #openttd 07:32:09 *** cosmobird_ has joined #openttd 07:38:16 *** cosmobird has quit IRC 08:14:45 *** cosmobird_ is now known as cosmobird 08:32:48 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 08:42:44 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 08:52:36 *** chomwitt has quit IRC 09:03:04 <andythenorth> so who can draw some reindeer? o_O 09:03:08 <andythenorth> just a few 09:25:18 <V453000> my ass is grass 09:25:22 <V453000> drawing electric poles atm 09:25:27 <V453000> kind of reindeer 09:31:03 <V453000> what are you working on andythenorth ? :) 09:32:20 <V453000> ultimate santa industry economy? 09:41:11 *** tycoondemon has quit IRC 10:12:27 *** frosch123 has joined #openttd 10:18:30 <andythenorth> V453000: nothing that interesting :P 10:24:36 *** FLHerne has quit IRC 10:25:36 * andythenorth considers kaolin cargo 10:25:43 <andythenorth> it’s all wrong, but clay confuses people 10:30:13 <frosch123> remove it from paper mill and rename it to brickearth 10:30:30 <frosch123> i have no idea how clay gets involved in paper 10:31:10 <frosch123> but its written on wiki, so must be true 10:32:22 <andythenorth> must be 10:32:39 <andythenorth> somewhat, these days, I just care about the appearance 10:32:45 <andythenorth> does it offer variety? 10:33:19 <frosch123> yes, "clay" is the kind of term you need to lookup in a dictionary 10:33:27 <frosch123> "brickearth" would be boring in comparison 10:36:45 <andythenorth> clay is brown 10:36:51 <andythenorth> kaolin is white 10:36:57 <andythenorth> except when the clay is kaolin 10:37:02 <andythenorth> then it’s white :P 10:37:10 <andythenorth> some clay is blue :P 10:37:12 <frosch123> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2c/Clay-ss-2005.jpg <- does that qualify as brown? 10:38:54 <andythenorth> yes 10:39:01 <andythenorth> looks like the soil in my garden 10:39:05 <andythenorth> which has big lumps of clay 10:39:35 <andythenorth> can’t decide if clay / kaolin is stupid 10:39:50 <andythenorth> or whether it’s like chemicals / sulphur / soda ash etc 10:39:58 <andythenorth> sometimes a composite cargo, sometimes not 10:40:38 <andythenorth> I know it might irritate Michael, but eh :| 10:41:13 * andythenorth will probably try it eh 10:41:53 <frosch123> you could also try "loam" 10:42:09 <andythenorth> ha 10:42:22 <andythenorth> ‘kaolin’ or ‘china clay’? 10:42:27 <andythenorth> they’re synonymous in UK English 10:42:55 <andythenorth> Kaolin is more prevalent in US 10:42:58 <frosch123> china clay sounds like china ware 10:43:09 <frosch123> do you still call it china ware? 10:43:28 <andythenorth> yes 10:43:33 <andythenorth> pottery, ceramics, china 10:43:57 <andythenorth> can’t make bricks from it 10:50:09 * andythenorth bbl 10:50:10 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 10:55:21 *** FLHerne has joined #openttd 11:00:34 *** Stimrol has joined #openttd 12:06:58 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 12:36:24 *** orudge has joined #openttd 12:36:25 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o orudge 12:39:18 *** Wolf01 has joined #openttd 12:39:29 <Wolf01> o/ 12:51:50 *** Snail has joined #openttd 13:01:22 *** Snail has quit IRC 13:06:35 *** DDR has quit IRC 13:10:26 <frosch123> who would have thought that the bottleneck is to insert copper cables into assembly machines 13:11:20 <Wolf01> Eh, I don't even care 13:11:54 <Wolf01> Other people instead calculate the exact timing and material quantity to produce everything 13:12:40 <frosch123> i choosed to play with expensive receipts, but my layout has only space for one stack inserted to insert cables into the machine 13:13:01 *** FLHerne has quit IRC 13:13:04 <frosch123> in older versions i only used stack inserters at train stations 13:13:12 <frosch123> now one is not enough for a machine :p 13:13:57 <Wolf01> Then you must research the stack increment 13:14:13 <frosch123> yes, already in progress 13:14:37 <frosch123> but more importantly i need to change my layout 13:15:49 *** supermop_ has joined #openttd 13:15:59 <Wolf01> I rebuilt my factory for the third time this game 13:16:36 *** orudge has quit IRC 13:16:49 *** gelignite has joined #openttd 13:17:04 *** orudge has joined #openttd 13:17:04 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o orudge 13:17:45 <Wolf01> Also I tried in sandbox the nuclear power.... 6 hours to only get started with the enrichment process 13:18:29 <frosch123> i am not that far 13:18:41 <frosch123> i am still puzzled about receipts with same output as input 13:18:56 <frosch123> i don't get them :) 13:20:03 <Wolf01> Neither am I, I just started with the oil chain to produce sulfuric acid and started mine uranium, then I built the centrifuges and now I'm waiting for the U-235 to start producing the fuel bars 13:21:02 <Wolf01> I also noticed the electric substations have a way larger area now, which is good 13:21:18 <frosch123> i never use them, i like the wire mess 13:21:28 <Wolf01> I use them for the solar panels 13:22:00 <Wolf01> Before they were 5x5 now you can make 7x7 solar panel fields 13:28:19 *** FLHerne has joined #openttd 13:29:13 *** orudge has quit IRC 13:29:28 *** orudge has joined #openttd 13:29:29 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o orudge 13:45:43 *** orudge has quit IRC 13:46:58 *** orudge has joined #openttd 13:46:58 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o orudge 14:02:54 <Wolf01> V453000, how am I supposed to fire from the tank in sandbox mode? 14:21:41 *** Stimrol has quit IRC 14:40:19 *** Belugas has quit IRC 14:53:17 *** Alberth has joined #openttd 14:53:17 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Alberth 14:53:26 <Alberth> o/ 14:53:49 <Wolf01> o/ 14:54:35 *** Gja has joined #openttd 14:55:29 <frosch123> hmm, i lost a construction robot somewhere 15:04:23 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 15:04:49 <Wolf01> o/ 15:05:37 <andythenorth> hi 15:20:37 <Alberth> o/ 15:21:51 <supermop_> yo 15:26:11 <LordAro> frosch123: if you're counting the robots you don't have enough of them :p 15:31:04 *** orudge has quit IRC 15:31:07 *** orudge has joined #openttd 15:31:07 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o orudge 15:31:39 <frosch123> LordAro: i definitely do not carry more robots than the personal roboport can support 15:32:04 <frosch123> possibly ocd 15:32:11 <LordAro> teehee 15:40:18 * andythenorth considers ‘Furs’ for Arctic Basic 15:40:35 <andythenorth> but I already have 20 cargos 15:40:43 <andythenorth> I could drop clay from paper mill eh 15:40:44 <frosch123> i think you considered that before 15:41:18 <andythenorth> I can’t see a 6 tile train of Furs being good 15:41:23 <andythenorth> but Furs in FIRS 15:43:06 <andythenorth> ha OpenTTD crashed 15:43:07 <andythenorth> (CrashLog::FillCrashLog(char*, char const*) 15:43:43 <andythenorth> that’s fairly common, I usually assume it’s because I’ve changed newgrfs 15:43:46 <andythenorth> but eh 15:44:24 <supermop_> draw stakes as part of logs, or put them on separate layers? 15:44:41 <supermop_> flatbed/rear stakes/front stakes 15:45:01 <andythenorth> separate 15:45:07 <andythenorth> or have python do it :P 15:45:15 <supermop_> or selectively delete part of logs so stakes on flatbed layer show 15:45:23 <supermop_> andythenorth: this is all is PS 15:45:28 <andythenorth> isn’t it just 15:45:41 * andythenorth has been down this road :) 15:46:02 <andythenorth> hmm, broke my savegame too :( 15:46:05 <andythenorth> nvm 15:46:18 <supermop_> idk i have the 'short' stakes that ttd/ogfx use for steel just part of the flatbed 15:46:37 <supermop_> but i guess some stuff on flatbed uses no stakes at all 15:50:08 <supermop_> andythenorth: i am stealing chips cargo to put on flatbeds 15:50:15 <andythenorth> yup 15:50:19 <andythenorth> or take it from hog 15:50:32 <supermop_> couldn't find the psd with cargos in hog 15:50:48 <andythenorth> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/road-hog/repository/show/src/graphics/cargos 15:51:10 <supermop_> i like the way open truck looks as a general trolley runabout 15:51:11 <andythenorth> more angles 15:51:29 *** TheMask96 has quit IRC 15:51:29 <supermop_> but i can't think of a use for it 15:52:03 <supermop_> and selection for selection's sake is against ogfx+ style 15:52:39 <supermop_> between flatbed, box, and hopper, everything open truck does is covered 15:53:07 <andythenorth> what’s the universal cargo vehicle? 15:53:10 <andythenorth> or isn’t there one? 15:53:10 <supermop_> and open truck would have to be slower loading and or reduced capacity vs those others 15:53:40 *** TheMask96 has joined #openttd 15:53:42 <supermop_> if you mean truck that hauls almost everything, it is open truck 15:53:57 <andythenorth> in Road Hog, open truck refits all cargo 15:54:16 <supermop_> but flatbed would carry all of that except raw minerals 15:54:36 <supermop_> we don't really need a 2nd road hog 15:54:56 <andythenorth> just one would be enough 15:55:01 <andythenorth> I should make it less cra 15:55:03 <andythenorth> crap * 15:55:09 <andythenorth> it’s pretty bad 15:55:27 <andythenorth> why did I add potash mine to arctic basic? 15:55:39 <andythenorth> IRL, potash comes from sub-arctic…never 15:55:48 <andythenorth> should be phosphate 16:00:26 <supermop_> original vehicles have one RV per cargo, ogfx+ have one per cargo type, but generally only one can carry that type 16:02:43 <supermop_> so i don't know if a one truck per type of cargo plus one other truck that does everything really works as an add on to ogfx+ 16:03:48 <supermop_> also all the vehicles has basically the same statistics across a generation, so balancing the mediocre jack of all trades vs the specialized vehicles again is more RH clone, less vanilla style 16:13:51 *** orudge has quit IRC 16:14:19 *** orudge has joined #openttd 16:14:20 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o orudge 16:22:04 *** smoke_fumus has joined #openttd 16:38:47 *** FLHerne has quit IRC 16:41:02 <supermop_> that said, the open truck looks too good to excise 16:42:54 <andythenorth> keep it 16:44:43 <supermop_> irl logs have big stakes 16:44:59 <supermop_> not sure i want to draw longer stakes tho 16:45:33 *** FLHerne has joined #openttd 16:46:14 <supermop_> open truck should refit to pax 16:46:31 <supermop_> maybe not open trolley truck 16:48:13 <supermop_> grain in open truck in sacks or just poured in there? 16:49:33 <andythenorth> poured in 16:49:35 <supermop_> are RH nuts like macadamia or coco? 16:49:44 <andythenorth> [shrug] 16:49:48 <andythenorth> they’re just brown things 16:49:55 <supermop_> look like coconuts in cargo sprites 16:50:07 <supermop_> recolor to yellow green for durian 16:50:50 <supermop_> man i spent too long drawing | _ chips crates last night 16:51:37 <andythenorth> :P 16:53:42 <supermop_> shouldn't steel rolls lay axis horizontal, not up? 16:54:01 * supermop_ being a pain 16:54:52 <supermop_> now need to come up with 8 more truck names 16:55:05 <supermop_> might need to add 1-2 new manufacturers 16:55:40 <andythenorth> supermop_: drawing them axis horizontal means 3 sprites 16:55:45 <andythenorth> eye to the sky means one sprite 16:55:56 <supermop_> yep 16:56:05 <andythenorth> sprites > realism 16:56:13 <supermop_> if i can trick you into drawing it though then i can steal 16:58:14 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 17:00:33 *** Stimrol has joined #openttd 17:05:01 <supermop_> loud mayday marches here 17:06:13 *** Wormnest has joined #openttd 17:08:07 *** glx has joined #openttd 17:08:07 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v glx 17:22:11 *** orudge has quit IRC 17:22:13 *** orudge has joined #openttd 17:22:13 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o orudge 17:31:20 *** quiznilo has joined #openttd 17:31:41 <quiznilo> okay, opponent getting too clever with orders http://i.imgur.com/8PGHro4.png 17:32:34 <quiznilo> he managed to get his train network utilization up to 74% and it's a large system 17:52:10 <V453000> haha 17:52:20 <V453000> welcome to openttdcoop 17:56:29 <Eddi|zuHause> is that an order patch? 18:02:30 *** DoyGou has joined #openttd 18:02:37 <DoyGou> Hello 18:02:41 <DoyGou> Anyone here? 18:03:40 * DoyGou slaps __ln__ around a bit with a large fishbot 18:04:24 <DoyGou> pls 18:04:27 <DoyGou> help 18:04:31 *** DoyGou has quit IRC 18:04:56 <LordAro> helpful 18:08:01 <FLHerne> ... 18:08:05 <Eddi|zuHause> oh, it's like classic irc nostalgia 18:10:55 <andythenorth> is it a bot? 18:18:56 *** Cubey has joined #openttd 18:20:07 *** Cubey has joined #openttd 18:37:28 <quiznilo> someone help the man, dammit 18:40:04 <quiznilo> Eddi|zuHause: it's from https://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=73469 which includes https://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=38317 and other Conditional Order patches I guess 18:40:09 <quiznilo> I havn't read through them all 18:53:20 *** Biolunar has quit IRC 19:00:14 <andythenorth> FIRS hotels eh 19:00:16 <andythenorth> daft 19:08:01 <supermop_> ugly 19:12:08 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttd 19:16:35 * andythenorth wants some industry that only appears above snowline 19:18:03 *** orudge has quit IRC 19:18:05 *** orudge has joined #openttd 19:18:05 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o orudge 19:18:42 <Eddi|zuHause> mountain refuge hut 19:18:55 <Eddi|zuHause> ski pist 19:18:57 <supermop_> chalet 19:19:22 <andythenorth> ice fishing lake 19:19:28 <andythenorth> snowmobile course 19:19:47 <Eddi|zuHause> also, summer snow line or winter snow line? 19:19:51 <andythenorth> well 19:20:18 <andythenorth> muskeg oil rigs; can only ship supplies in during winter when ground is frozen 19:21:23 <andythenorth> such HEQS http://www.digdifferent.com/img/uploads/gallery/1323/dsc01196__large.jpg 19:21:30 * andythenorth never finished drawing that 19:21:45 <andythenorth> did build it in Lego though http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4077/4826895221_59cdc4202b.jpg 19:22:19 *** orudge has quit IRC 19:22:40 *** orudge has joined #openttd 19:22:40 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o orudge 19:28:41 *** Alberth has left #openttd 19:31:23 <andythenorth> supermop_: reindeer herder village http://www.snowchange.org/pages/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/sosnovka1GalinaShebut.jpg 19:31:33 <andythenorth> nice architecture 19:34:39 *** Arveen has joined #openttd 19:40:16 *** Arveen2 has quit IRC 20:08:30 *** iSoSyS has joined #openttd 20:12:05 *** FLHerne has quit IRC 20:12:31 *** iSoSyS has quit IRC 20:34:13 *** FLHerne has joined #openttd 20:46:18 *** gelignite has quit IRC 20:52:43 <supermop_> andythenorth: that looks like a still from a aerial video of some uncontacted settlement 20:53:02 <andythenorth> trying to find out what a reindeer slaughterhouse looks like now :P 20:53:27 <supermop_> bit of open land next to a shed? 20:54:53 <andythenorth> probably 21:05:11 *** Hiddenfunstuff has quit IRC 21:11:52 <Eddi|zuHause> supermop_: uncontacted villages with satellite dishes? 21:12:11 <supermop_> independent discovery 21:19:50 <andythenorth> bed 21:19:51 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 21:31:39 *** mindlesstux has joined #openttd 21:34:53 *** Progman has quit IRC 21:37:19 *** smoke_fumus has quit IRC 21:42:15 *** Gja has quit IRC 22:01:21 *** orudge`` has joined #openttd 22:01:41 *** orudge`` has quit IRC 22:05:23 *** orudge has quit IRC 22:08:49 *** chomwitt has joined #openttd 22:39:42 *** Stimrol has quit IRC 22:50:10 *** Wormnest has quit IRC 22:58:53 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 23:21:20 *** sim-al2 is now known as Guest1601 23:21:21 *** sim-al2 has joined #openttd 23:22:23 *** Lokimaros has joined #openttd 23:23:17 *** Lokimaros has quit IRC 23:23:53 *** chomwitt has quit IRC 23:26:03 *** Guest1601 has quit IRC 23:29:45 <Wolf01> 'night 23:29:47 *** Wolf01 has quit IRC 23:37:44 *** HerzogDeXtEr has quit IRC