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00:00:31 <stefino> so thanks for answers and bye ;) 00:01:02 *** stefino has quit IRC 00:04:46 *** HerzogDeXtEr has quit IRC 00:09:10 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 00:11:30 *** Progman has quit IRC 00:25:21 *** iSoSyS has quit IRC 00:41:41 *** gelignite has quit IRC 01:41:28 *** Samu has quit IRC 02:45:41 *** Gustavo6046 has quit IRC 03:37:59 *** orudge` has quit IRC 03:38:03 *** orudge` has joined #openttd 03:38:04 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o orudge` 04:28:32 *** mindlesstux has quit IRC 04:29:05 *** mindlesstux has joined #openttd 05:09:20 *** glx has quit IRC 06:02:40 *** SgtStroopwafel_ has quit IRC 06:58:08 *** mindlesstux has quit IRC 06:58:41 *** mindlesstux has joined #openttd 07:29:16 *** PressureLine has joined #openttd 08:11:45 *** CTZen has joined #openttd 08:14:04 <CTZen> HELLO, Question: I can see some servers in "openttd.org/en/servers" with many players, I add their IP but inside game it shows them offline. can i join them? 08:25:49 *** sim-al2 is now known as Guest1213 08:25:50 *** sim-al2 has joined #openttd 08:29:25 *** Guest1213 has quit IRC 08:55:10 *** CTZen has quit IRC 08:57:02 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 09:14:08 <PressureLine> andy: tanks server? 09:20:19 *** Wolf01 has joined #openttd 09:20:29 <Wolf01> o/ 09:20:37 <PressureLine> \o 09:31:38 *** Alberth has joined #openttd 09:31:38 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Alberth 09:31:58 <Wolf01> o/ 09:35:53 *** Thedarkb has quit IRC 09:37:24 *** orudge` has quit IRC 09:37:38 *** orudge` has joined #openttd 09:37:38 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o orudge` 09:54:42 <andythenorth> yo 10:01:41 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttd 10:02:37 *** Progman has joined #openttd 10:02:43 *** Lejving has quit IRC 10:11:49 <PressureLine> <PressureLine> andy: tanks server? 10:14:13 *** PressureLine has quit IRC 10:21:41 <andythenorth> I'm playing World of Tanks Blitz 10:21:49 <andythenorth> it's just random games 10:49:07 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 11:13:54 <Alberth> o/ 11:14:38 <Alberth> winnable for 50% of the time :) 11:17:44 <andythenorth> 45% :P 11:17:49 <andythenorth> more if you're good 11:17:51 <andythenorth> I'm not 11:18:24 <Eddi|zuHause> als long as both sides have the same number of players, the average should be at 50% :p 11:19:02 <Alberth> it's not pure luck, apparently :p 11:28:11 *** Gja has joined #openttd 11:28:46 *** orudge` has quit IRC 11:29:00 *** orudge` has joined #openttd 11:29:00 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o orudge` 11:34:10 *** Alberth has left #openttd 11:50:03 <Wolf01> I don't play games with chance to win lower than 66% :P 11:52:06 *** Thedarkb has joined #openttd 12:03:51 *** Thedarkb has quit IRC 12:04:04 *** ToffeeYogurtPots has quit IRC 12:12:21 *** Thedarkb has joined #openttd 12:12:32 *** ToffeeYogurtPots has joined #openttd 12:20:09 *** orudge` has quit IRC 12:20:33 *** orudge` has joined #openttd 12:20:33 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o orudge` 12:37:19 <andythenorth> some players are better 12:37:23 <andythenorth> and some are paying 12:37:30 <andythenorth> paying = stacked deck 12:37:40 <andythenorth> by about 1-3% 12:52:38 *** synchris has joined #openttd 12:59:44 *** orudge` has quit IRC 13:00:08 *** orudge` has joined #openttd 13:00:08 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o orudge` 13:00:32 *** iSoSyS has joined #openttd 13:08:14 *** Samu has joined #openttd 13:12:39 *** HerzogDeXtEr has joined #openttd 13:12:46 *** ToffeeYogurtPots has quit IRC 13:16:51 *** Gja has quit IRC 13:22:03 *** SgtStroopwafel_ has joined #openttd 13:23:02 *** Gustavo6046 has joined #openttd 13:42:01 *** Thedarkb has quit IRC 13:42:23 *** Lejving has joined #openttd 13:49:09 *** Thedarkb has joined #openttd 13:55:41 <andythenorth> so tanks or openttd? 14:02:32 *** gelignite has joined #openttd 14:18:35 *** orudge` has quit IRC 14:19:05 *** orudge` has joined #openttd 14:19:05 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o orudge` 14:26:37 *** oskari89 has joined #openttd 14:27:44 *** frosch123 has joined #openttd 14:29:11 *** Gja has joined #openttd 14:32:29 *** ToBeFree has joined #openttd 14:41:14 *** alluke has quit IRC 14:52:36 *** ToBeFree has quit IRC 14:56:04 <andythenorth> how do I get a python environment with nml? 14:56:15 <andythenorth> when the user is not an administrator? (no sudo) 14:56:34 <andythenorth> it seems to be totally impossible, but must be possible :) 14:57:30 <Eddi|zuHause> huh? why would you need to be admin? 14:58:09 <andythenorth> how else to install into /usr ? 14:58:13 <andythenorth> or some other crap 14:58:18 <andythenorth> I dunno, I usually do this differently 14:58:22 <Eddi|zuHause> don't install it? 14:58:39 <andythenorth> I usually build python in my user dir, and have everything local 14:58:44 <andythenorth> but this user can't do that 14:58:49 <Eddi|zuHause> unpack it into your home, and put the executable into ~/bin or something 14:58:51 <andythenorth> I have to sudo, which means it goes system wide 14:58:58 <andythenorth> it's ass backwards 14:59:34 <Eddi|zuHause> i don't understand your problem 14:59:38 <andythenorth> trying to give a 7 year old nml tools 14:59:43 <andythenorth> he's on a locked down user 14:59:53 <andythenorth> the only way I can use package managers is to su to my user 15:00:05 <andythenorth> which then assumes my environment 15:00:12 <andythenorth> total PITA 15:00:40 <Eddi|zuHause> so your problem is you don't understand user management? 15:00:46 <andythenorth> yes 15:00:57 <andythenorth> I never have to engage with it 15:01:23 <andythenorth> I am admin, and I avoid installing things system wide, where possible 15:01:27 <Eddi|zuHause> so "locked down" means can't run programs from home dir? 15:01:35 <andythenorth> can't even find a home dir 15:01:45 <andythenorth> it's Apple restrictions 15:02:30 <andythenorth> I thought I just install the python binary from python website 15:02:30 <andythenorth> t 15:02:39 <andythenorth> then virtualenv and install packages 15:02:41 <andythenorth> but no 15:03:00 <Eddi|zuHause> i don't know the apple way of doing things, but i think you should build/install stuff globally, and have the restricted user access it 15:04:36 <andythenorth> ach 15:04:46 <andythenorth> now I've got all the TLS failures 15:05:13 <andythenorth> I give up 15:05:55 <andythenorth> the user is configured so that every url has to be whitelisted by admin 15:06:16 <andythenorth> and the python tools appear to be older broken ones that have the non-working SSL stuff 15:06:29 <andythenorth> and devzone http is also broken for ~everyone 15:06:33 <andythenorth> it's a shit show :) 15:07:36 <V453000> excuse for purchasing tanks :P http://www.bunicomic.com/comic/buni-1054/ 15:07:39 *** smoke_fumus has joined #openttd 15:09:24 *** Auga159 has joined #openttd 15:09:38 *** Mahjong1 has joined #openttd 15:16:00 *** yorick_ has joined #openttd 15:16:53 *** Mahjong has quit IRC 15:19:54 *** yorick__ has joined #openttd 15:19:55 * andythenorth refusing to quit 15:20:37 <V453000> how much $ did it cost so far? :P 15:21:51 *** Thedarkb has quit IRC 15:22:14 *** yorick has quit IRC 15:22:29 *** iSoSyS has quit IRC 15:24:03 *** yorick has joined #openttd 15:24:21 *** yorick_ has quit IRC 15:25:49 <andythenorth> python? nothing, just pain 15:25:55 <andythenorth> tanks cost about £25 15:26:06 <andythenorth> got a working python3 now 15:26:11 <andythenorth> but virtualenv is broken next 15:29:29 *** yorick__ has quit IRC 15:30:29 <andythenorth> got python deps, now running nml tests :P 15:30:34 *** Stimrol has joined #openttd 15:30:39 <andythenorth> buildout.python remains useful 15:30:45 <andythenorth> the nml on pip is python2 15:30:52 <andythenorth> maybe we could update that? o_O 15:31:03 <andythenorth> planetmaker: ? ^ 15:32:16 <Eddi|zuHause> there's pip2 and pip3 15:39:36 *** Auga159 has quit IRC 15:39:44 <frosch123> https://paste.openttdcoop.org/phizsmaeo?/phizsmaeo <- looks like a nicer fix for fs#6639 15:49:18 *** Wormnest has joined #openttd 15:52:32 *** Thedarkb has joined #openttd 15:56:13 *** tokai|noir has joined #openttd 15:56:13 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai|noir 16:03:00 *** tokai has quit IRC 16:07:37 <andythenorth> o_O 16:12:39 *** Thedarkb has quit IRC 16:15:34 *** Gustavo6046 has quit IRC 16:16:04 *** Gustavo6046 has joined #openttd 16:17:11 *** gelignite has quit IRC 16:22:05 <andythenorth> got a working nml :P 16:22:13 <Samu> sup andy 16:22:24 <Samu> did u work on river generation? 16:22:24 <V453000> how did you not have nml? :D new computer? 16:22:33 <Samu> the pathfinder part of it? 16:23:19 <andythenorth> V453000: locked down account for 7 year old 16:23:23 <andythenorth> he needs nml 16:23:47 <frosch123> andy needs more time for tanks, so he passes firs to the next generation 16:24:05 <V453000> :DDDDDDDDDDDDD 16:24:16 <andythenorth> he's drawing trains 16:24:38 * andythenorth can't work out if openttd is finally dead or not 16:24:46 <andythenorth> I imagine not 16:25:34 <V453000> it isn't 16:25:44 <Samu> it's not dead, i'm here :p 16:28:25 *** Thedarkb has joined #openttd 16:45:00 *** debdog has quit IRC 16:46:44 *** Thedarkb has quit IRC 16:50:33 <DorpsGek> Commit by frosch :: r27932 trunk/src/industry_cmd.cpp (2017-11-25 17:50:28 +0100 ) 16:50:34 <DorpsGek> -Fix (r0) [FS#6639]: Forest, candyfloss forest and battery farm skipped the first animation frame. 17:00:02 <LordAro> amazing 17:03:02 <Samu> oh! a fix :) nice 17:03:37 <frosch123> hmm, it was longer broken than it worked :p 17:03:43 *** Thedarkb has joined #openttd 17:03:51 <frosch123> 1995-2004 worked, 2004-2017 broken 17:04:23 *** debdog has joined #openttd 17:08:04 *** Alberth has joined #openttd 17:08:04 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Alberth 17:08:09 <frosch123> o/ 17:08:13 <Alberth> moin 17:19:01 <Samu> my first recursive function :) 17:19:12 <Samu> let's see if it doesn't lock the game 17:37:16 *** orudge` has quit IRC 17:37:22 *** orudge` has joined #openttd 17:37:22 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o orudge` 17:45:25 *** debdog has quit IRC 18:00:20 *** Arveen has joined #openttd 18:04:38 *** Arveen2 has quit IRC 18:06:06 *** Thedarkb has quit IRC 18:07:31 *** orudge` has quit IRC 18:08:02 *** orudge` has joined #openttd 18:08:02 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o orudge` 18:08:50 *** glx has joined #openttd 18:08:50 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v glx 18:17:44 <Samu> grr, i'm having trouble detecting map edges 18:18:07 <Samu> moving from tile to tile can sometimes put myself in a tile outside the map 18:18:36 *** debdog has joined #openttd 18:18:38 <Samu> i was just trying to MakeRiver on a tile outside 18:25:44 *** Gja has quit IRC 18:26:30 *** D-HUND has joined #openttd 18:27:45 *** debdog has quit IRC 18:29:21 *** D-HUND is now known as debdog 18:42:05 *** debdog has quit IRC 18:45:43 *** Thedarkb has joined #openttd 18:46:43 *** andythenorth has left #openttd 18:50:52 *** Gja has joined #openttd 18:51:51 *** Gustavo6046 has quit IRC 19:01:50 *** Arveen2 has joined #openttd 19:02:42 *** debdog has joined #openttd 19:06:03 *** Maarten has quit IRC 19:06:11 *** Arveen has quit IRC 19:15:21 *** Thedarkb has quit IRC 19:16:26 *** Arveen2 has quit IRC 19:18:43 <Samu> https://imgur.com/DD6mOgi 19:18:48 <Samu> that was intense 19:18:56 <Samu> but everything's connected 19:24:05 *** Alberth has left #openttd 19:24:31 *** Arveen has joined #openttd 19:30:14 *** oskari89 has quit IRC 20:02:45 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttd 20:07:20 *** sim-al2 is now known as Guest1232 20:07:22 *** sim-al2 has joined #openttd 20:11:53 *** Guest1232 has quit IRC 20:15:27 *** oskari89 has joined #openttd 20:19:26 *** orudge` has quit IRC 20:19:33 *** orudge` has joined #openttd 20:19:33 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o orudge` 20:24:00 *** iSoSyS has joined #openttd 20:32:04 *** iSoSyS has quit IRC 20:39:11 *** SgtStroopwafel_ has quit IRC 20:39:27 *** gelignite has joined #openttd 20:39:28 *** iSoSyS has joined #openttd 20:41:00 *** SgtStroopwafel_ has joined #openttd 20:50:47 *** SgtStroopwafel_ has quit IRC 20:53:45 *** SgtStroopwafel_ has joined #openttd 20:55:52 *** SgtStroopwafel_ has quit IRC 20:57:35 *** SgtStroopwafel_ has joined #openttd 21:28:33 *** iSoSyS has joined #openttd 21:38:38 *** orudge` has quit IRC 21:38:42 *** orudge` has joined #openttd 21:38:42 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o orudge` 21:39:46 <Samu> how do i work with tiles on the edge without going into the void tiles? 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