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00:01:37 *** gelignite has quit IRC 00:01:45 *** snail_UES_ has joined #openttd 00:13:23 *** Progman has quit IRC 00:26:20 <Wolf01> 'night 00:26:22 *** Wolf01 has quit IRC 00:36:37 *** happpy has joined #openttd 00:36:43 *** happpy has left #openttd 00:52:46 *** Thedarkb1 has quit IRC 01:08:30 *** Samu has quit IRC 01:09:00 *** Thedarkb1 has joined #openttd 01:14:52 *** supermop has quit IRC 01:19:49 *** Gja has quit IRC 01:30:28 *** supermop has joined #openttd 01:38:32 *** supermop has quit IRC 01:57:05 *** cathartes has joined #openttd 02:10:22 *** supermop has joined #openttd 02:18:22 *** Stimrol has quit IRC 02:45:36 *** glx has quit IRC 03:01:58 *** ToffeeYogurtPots_ has quit IRC 03:02:19 *** ToffeeYogurtPots_ has joined #openttd 03:20:51 *** Thedarkb1 has quit IRC 03:53:36 *** Gustavo6046 has quit IRC 04:30:03 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 has joined #openttd 04:36:06 *** HerzogDeXtEr has quit IRC 05:06:54 *** Mahjong has joined #openttd 05:10:01 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 has quit IRC 05:10:57 *** Cubey has quit IRC 05:12:08 *** Mahjong1 has quit IRC 05:50:23 *** Chuck_ has joined #openttd 05:50:30 <Chuck_> hi 05:50:52 *** Chuck_ has quit IRC 06:23:18 *** supermop has quit IRC 06:36:42 *** Alberth has joined #openttd 06:36:42 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Alberth 06:39:09 *** snail_UES_ has quit IRC 06:39:58 <Alberth> meep meep 06:55:52 *** OsteHovel has quit IRC 06:57:33 *** OsteHovel has joined #openttd 06:59:43 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 07:05:30 <Alberth> o/ 07:11:48 <andythenorth> moin 07:36:52 *** sim-al2 has quit IRC 07:38:16 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttd 07:44:38 *** cathartes has quit IRC 08:13:36 <andythenorth> added fruit ship 08:13:42 <andythenorth> for fruit, carrying of http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/unsinkable-sam/push/LATEST/docs/html/ships.html#fruit_veg_carrier_large 08:13:46 <andythenorth> also vegetables 08:16:58 <Alberth> is it by design that it looks so much like the refrigarated ship? 08:17:43 <Alberth> you'd expect it to be white-ish, wouldn't you? 08:18:36 <Alberth> perhaps drop the chimney at the front, and perhaps one side of the cranes on the deck? (or even, no cranes) 08:19:40 <Alberth> unless the refrigerated ship is a refurbishment of the veg carrier ship :) little paint job, and done :) 08:20:35 <Alberth> hmm, white isn't much needed in a temperate climate I guess 08:22:19 <andythenorth> it's a repaint 08:22:27 <andythenorth> Horse & Hog do same :) 08:26:30 <andythenorth> now I need some smaller ships :( 08:32:54 <andythenorth> these ones are done http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/unsinkable-sam/push/LATEST/docs/html/ships.html 08:32:58 <andythenorth> should I make a 0.1 release? :P 08:33:02 *** Progman has joined #openttd 08:36:31 <Alberth> bit large for 1870 :) 08:37:47 <Alberth> definitely a general-purpose hull :D 08:43:23 <andythenorth> ships is ships :P 08:43:35 <andythenorth> they're all about the same, just the components move around 08:44:05 <andythenorth> I think it's a bit early to release 08:44:11 <andythenorth> lacks too much :P 08:47:46 <Alberth> second hull-type would be nice :) 08:48:34 <andythenorth> I need to finish a smaller one http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/unsinkable-sam/push/LATEST/docs/html/ships.html#bulk_carrier_small 08:48:53 <andythenorth> also there's a big river barge 08:49:03 <andythenorth> but I'm not sure about it 08:55:46 <Alberth> doesn't sound very good 08:55:58 <Alberth> unless you have very wide rivers :) 08:56:37 <Alberth> I disabled rivers a long time ago, too annoying 09:04:20 *** synchris has joined #openttd 09:08:26 <andythenorth> I guess the river barge is just a way to do a different hull 09:08:33 <andythenorth> it doesn't have any other significance 09:08:44 <andythenorth> dunno if it looks good though :P 09:12:31 <Alberth> yeah, water-type isn't that relevant in openttd :) 09:13:15 <Alberth> I often do small boat types for servicing islands 09:13:24 <andythenorth> there will be nice small boats in Sam 09:13:31 <andythenorth> they're harder to draw though :P 09:13:36 <andythenorth> they are just blobs :( 09:13:47 <Alberth> hmm, a very island-ish scenario, could be nice? 09:13:56 <andythenorth> this is the river boat http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/unsinkable-sam/push/LATEST/docs/html/ships.html#bulk_carrier_large 09:14:05 <andythenorth> it has same capacity as the ocean-looking ships 09:14:20 <andythenorth> but I think the sprite doesn't convey that information 09:14:49 <Alberth> it looks too big for a river thing 09:15:01 <Alberth> or your ocean things are too small 09:15:17 <andythenorth> it's too long and too wide imho 09:15:25 <andythenorth> and the hull could be deeper 09:15:28 <andythenorth> IRL barges https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Barge_Destin_on_the_river_Seine_002.JPG 09:15:49 <Alberth> width is just a single pixel? 09:16:01 <Alberth> too long, definitely 09:16:34 <Alberth> 3/4 or 2/3 of an ocean thing would be better 09:16:44 <andythenorth> FIRS dredging site https://www.goskagit.com/gallery/news/skagit-river-barge/collection_60acb22e-c63a-11e2-b613-0019bb2963f4.html 09:16:45 <andythenorth> :P 09:17:27 <Alberth> why would you have same capacity? it would make one of the ships useless, wouldn't it? 09:18:04 <Alberth> clearly carrying water supplies :D 09:18:54 <andythenorth> nah ships come in just a few sizes 09:19:15 <andythenorth> for any cargo, you pick the one you like the look of (refit permitting) 09:20:11 <Alberth> it does work like that :) 09:20:41 <andythenorth> the 'bulk' ship needs to look robust and chunky 09:21:12 <andythenorth> similar http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/iron-horse/push/LATEST/docs/html/static/img/dump_car_pony_gen_6C.png 09:21:22 <andythenorth> maybe more like this? http://www.virusphoto.com/262679-pousseur-de-barge-sur-la-seine.html 09:22:03 <Alberth> big square thing :) 09:22:23 <Alberth> or rather, rectangular 09:25:27 *** FLHerne has joined #openttd 09:37:33 *** FLHerne has quit IRC 09:44:05 *** Wolf01 has joined #openttd 09:44:34 *** Maraxus has joined #openttd 09:44:51 <Wolf01> Moin 09:44:53 *** milda has joined #openttd 09:44:59 *** milda is now known as NGC3982 09:45:07 <NGC3982> i forgot about this channel 09:45:07 <NGC3982> :| 09:45:11 * andythenorth waits for inspiration to strike 09:47:51 <Alberth> moin W 09:51:57 *** keoz has joined #openttd 09:58:22 * Wolf01 looks for some more lithium for the base batteries... 10:00:00 *** Maraxus has quit IRC 10:00:35 *** Stimrol has joined #openttd 10:07:27 <NGC3982> so, i have put so much hours into cities skylines, factorio and ksp now 10:07:29 <NGC3982> what next? 10:07:31 <andythenorth> ? 10:07:32 <andythenorth> https://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/8843/bulkier_bulk.png 10:07:35 <NGC3982> im actually bored with all of them :(. 10:07:48 <Wolf01> Play astroneer 10:08:09 <Wolf01> They look really cool, andy 10:08:39 <NGC3982> astroneer looks cool! 10:08:44 <andythenorth> does the 'bulk' look same capacity as 'freighter'? 10:09:26 * NGC3982 buys 10:10:19 <LordAro> NGC3982: all 3 of those have extensive modding communities 10:11:17 <NGC3982> LordAro: yeah, i know. i have also explored quite a bit of all the mods 10:11:41 * andythenorth bbl 10:11:45 <andythenorth> such ships 10:11:54 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 10:12:10 <NGC3982> ksp modding is cool but has so much version dependecy issues. cities skylines has cool mods, but i spent so many hours with mods i returned to vanilla, and factorio is ..factorio. 10:14:08 *** FLHerne has joined #openttd 10:27:13 *** FLHerne has quit IRC 10:33:45 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 10:50:55 *** Wormnest has joined #openttd 11:16:47 *** ToffeeYogurtPots_ has quit IRC 11:17:07 *** ToffeeYogurtPots_ has joined #openttd 11:19:35 <Eddi|zuHause> the moment i looked into KSP mods it practically killed the game for me 11:21:06 <Eddi|zuHause> i spent all the time debugging mod issues, and none of the time playing 11:25:57 *** john-aj has joined #openttd 11:27:28 *** FLHerne has joined #openttd 11:30:41 *** HerzogDeXtEr has joined #openttd 11:31:31 *** john-aj has quit IRC 11:36:03 *** john-aj has joined #openttd 11:39:41 *** Thedarkb has joined #openttd 11:55:55 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttd 12:01:28 *** gelignite has joined #openttd 12:21:56 *** Progman has quit IRC 12:24:22 *** Progman has joined #openttd 12:34:23 *** Thedarkb has quit IRC 12:45:48 <Eddi|zuHause> so, i started TF after ages, tried to load my game, it spent way too long loading, and then crashed with a protection fault 12:49:32 <Eddi|zuHause> nope, again crashed on loading the game :/ 12:49:55 <Eddi|zuHause> is it not meant to load old games? 12:50:02 <Wolf01> It should 12:51:15 <Eddi|zuHause> nope, also crashing on new games 12:51:33 <Wolf01> Some weird mod? 12:51:47 <Eddi|zuHause> no mods as far as i remember 12:55:35 *** frosch123 has joined #openttd 13:00:30 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 13:01:24 <Eddi|zuHause> so much for that game :/ 13:03:15 <Wolf01> Quak 13:03:27 *** Gja has joined #openttd 13:03:32 <frosch123> moi 13:05:11 *** Gja has quit IRC 13:14:45 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 13:22:08 *** sim-al2 has joined #openttd 13:30:28 <andythenorth> o/ 13:35:31 *** Samu has joined #openttd 13:35:34 <Samu> hi 13:47:09 <Eddi|zuHause> i have a feeling nothing works today :/ 13:48:14 <Wolf01> I'm updating a new game on the wii u, it's saying 5 minutes since 11:20 13:48:45 <Wolf01> It's not even at 50% 13:56:14 <andythenorth> shame the wii u failed 13:56:18 <andythenorth> it's a really nice platform 13:59:52 *** Eddi|zuHause has quit IRC 14:00:22 <Wolf01> They didn't even belive in it, I only purchased 4 games, included the one bundled, and 2 of them are lego ones 14:02:14 *** gelignite has quit IRC 14:05:41 *** Eddi|zuHause has joined #openttd 14:09:09 <Eddi|zuHause> so, i try to start civ6, and then the computer locks up for minutes. afterwards civ6 is gone, all swap is used, and all memory is free 14:11:27 <Eddi|zuHause> also, i tried to disable systemd-coredump like 50 times in the past few years, because it always locks up at 100% 14:11:39 <Eddi|zuHause> and it never works 14:13:44 <Samu> where is cubey 14:17:05 <Wolf01> Just use windows to play games 14:17:06 <Wolf01> :P 14:18:11 <Eddi|zuHause> i tried that, windows wouldn't install 14:18:32 <TrueBrain> you sound like Marvin 14:18:47 <Wolf01> XD 14:23:58 <Alberth> :D 14:29:39 <andythenorth> I could just do http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/8844/bulkier_bulk_2.png 14:29:45 <andythenorth> reuse the same ship hull again 14:31:18 <andythenorth> I tried lots of variations (on right of the spritesheet) http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/unsinkable-sam/repository/revisions/f9689b1f535b/entry/src/graphics/ships/bulk_carrier_large_template.png 14:37:57 <andythenorth> bbl 14:38:08 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 14:43:44 *** tokai has joined #openttd 14:43:44 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai 14:44:25 *** supermop has joined #openttd 14:44:36 <supermop> yo 14:49:51 <Samu> @seen Cubey 14:49:51 <DorpsGek> Samu: Cubey was last seen in #openttd 19 hours, 49 minutes, and 21 seconds ago: <Cubey> dir /s/b > listfile.txt and then find and replace away the parts of the paths with spaces 14:49:59 <Samu> t.t 14:50:17 *** tokai|noir has quit IRC 15:04:29 *** Flygon has quit IRC 15:13:41 *** Thedarkb has joined #openttd 15:26:12 *** sim-al2 has quit IRC 15:44:21 <Samu> I did it! 15:44:24 <Samu> https://pastebin.com/raw/W2Updr7W 15:44:32 <Samu> too bad cubey isn't online 15:45:46 <Samu> doesn't store empty directories though 15:46:17 <Samu> oh, echo del is to be changed to del 15:59:26 <Samu> so bored 16:01:17 * Samu just compressed andythenorth last .png linked, from 39,6 KB (40.626 bytes) to 20,8 KB (21.312 bytes) using paq8px_v138 16:01:35 * TrueBrain just took a dump 16:05:05 <LordAro> TrueBrain: compression! 16:05:08 *** john-aj has quit IRC 16:05:10 <LordAro> of sorts 16:05:15 <TrueBrain> owh, it was compressed! 16:05:47 <TrueBrain> it was 300 grams of pork, now it was 12 grams of pure shit 16:06:02 *** ToBeFree has joined #openttd 16:06:23 <LordAro> not sure we needed that level of detail 16:06:36 <TrueBrain> I wondered the same with what Samu said ... 16:06:58 <LordAro> ah, but Samu is Samu 16:09:33 <Samu> sorry, i'm a bit bored, waiting for the aircraft ai tests to finish 16:16:58 *** ToBeFree has quit IRC 16:25:55 *** john-aj has joined #openttd 16:49:17 *** snail_UES_ has joined #openttd 17:01:33 *** Thedarkb has quit IRC 17:03:04 *** FLHerne has quit IRC 17:03:38 *** Thedarkb has joined #openttd 17:17:15 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttd 17:34:33 <Eddi|zuHause> and my ignorelist is my ignorelist 17:50:14 *** cathartes has joined #openttd 17:53:23 *** Gja has joined #openttd 18:17:01 *** Gustavo6046 has joined #openttd 18:26:40 *** Biolunar has quit IRC 18:54:12 *** cHawk has quit IRC 18:56:47 *** gelignite has joined #openttd 19:04:15 *** supermop has quit IRC 19:04:57 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 19:16:13 *** Gustavo6046 has quit IRC 19:23:23 <andythenorth> o/ 19:32:45 <andythenorth> so what boat am I drawing? 19:33:04 <Eddi|zuHause> the enterprise? 19:34:11 <andythenorth> this one? https://wallscover.com/images/star-trek-enterprise-4.jpg 19:34:29 <Eddi|zuHause> for example 19:34:37 <Eddi|zuHause> loads to choose from :p 19:35:02 *** Eddi|zuHause has quit IRC 19:35:28 *** Eddi|zuHause has joined #openttd 19:35:49 <andythenorth> wondering if a tugboat + barge will look good 19:40:55 *** Gustavo6046 has joined #openttd 19:42:18 <andythenorth> https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/coal-barge-paris-seine-river-48405038.jpg 19:45:43 <Wolf01> Articulated ships 19:49:06 <andythenorth> not needed :P) 19:55:08 <LordAro> andythenorth: http://www.treknews.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/stid-trailer-enterprise.jpg looks like a boat to me 19:56:46 <andythenorth> bit random 19:57:25 *** Supercheese has joined #openttd 19:57:31 <LordAro> https://cdn3.whatculture.com/images/2013/05/TheTallShipRises.jpg better picture 19:58:39 <andythenorth> does it crash into the sea? 19:58:45 <andythenorth> my trek knowledge is very outdated 19:58:56 <andythenorth> weds 6pm BBC2, NG 19:59:00 <andythenorth> is all I remember 19:59:02 <LordAro> haha 19:59:11 <LordAro> is from Into Darkness 19:59:24 <andythenorth> British people of a certain age will know exactly what 6pm Weds BBC2 means 20:05:01 *** glx has joined #openttd 20:05:01 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v glx 20:15:32 *** gelignite_ has joined #openttd 20:19:13 <frosch123> http://hg.openttd.org/trunk.hg/file/5df1674182c3/src/os/windows/ottdres.rc.in#l82 <- glx: what is the effect of the revision number in FILEVERSION and PRODUCTVERSION? 20:19:20 <frosch123> what would break if it was always zero? 20:20:59 <glx> I think it doesn't really matter 20:21:48 *** gelignite has quit IRC 20:22:02 <frosch123> ok, so we can just drop it 20:27:38 *** Alberth has left #openttd 20:42:02 *** snail_UES_ has quit IRC 20:46:26 *** FLHerne has joined #openttd 20:52:09 <andythenorth> so http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/8845/bulkier_bulk_3.png 20:52:12 <andythenorth> push barge? 20:52:26 <andythenorth> per https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/coal-barge-paris-seine-river-48405038.jpg 20:52:39 <andythenorth> or I can do the easy route http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/8844/bulkier_bulk_2.png 21:07:40 <andythenorth> hmm 21:09:33 <andythenorth> relative sizing 21:09:34 <andythenorth> pita 21:09:55 *** Supercheese has quit IRC 21:11:13 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 21:28:08 *** synchris has quit IRC 21:32:17 *** sim-al2 has joined #openttd 21:34:52 <Wolf01> I do 'night 21:34:57 *** Wolf01 has quit IRC 21:45:59 *** gelignite_ has quit IRC 21:47:14 *** Stimrol has quit IRC 21:54:36 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 22:16:18 *** ToffeeYogurtPots_ has quit IRC 22:16:41 *** ToffeeYogurtPots_ has joined #openttd 22:17:19 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 22:24:18 *** Gustavo6046 has quit IRC 22:46:15 *** Progman has quit IRC 22:46:48 *** ToffeeYogurtPots_ has quit IRC 22:47:20 *** ToffeeYogurtPots_ has joined #openttd 23:03:51 *** Gja has quit IRC 23:05:42 *** Wormnest has quit IRC 23:12:13 *** Thedarkb has quit IRC 23:25:16 *** john-aj has quit IRC 23:47:28 *** Mazur has quit IRC 23:48:17 *** ToBeFree has joined #openttd 23:48:37 *** ToBeFree has quit IRC 23:52:36 *** HerzogDeXtEr has quit IRC 23:56:27 *** Mazur has joined #openttd 23:56:56 *** keoz has quit IRC