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00:01:14 <Born_Acorn> Poor munchkinguy. 00:01:21 <Born_Acorn> Someone should have told him about http://download.transporttycoon.net/files/ttd-graphics.rar 00:02:20 <Sacro> nn all, Born_Acorn. keep bugging peter1138 :) 00:02:23 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@87.102.1.142] has quit [" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-"] 00:03:54 <Markavian`> hey, I got a question about the Mini-IN patch 00:04:18 <Markavian`> basically whats the a .patch file and what do I do with it? (e.g. mini_in_r4593_383.patch) 00:04:42 <glx> do you know how to compile OTTD? 00:04:59 <Markavian`> nope 00:05:37 <Markavian`> if a .patch file is to do with compililng, I guess that means I'll have to stick with the builds that are released on the forum 00:05:47 <glx> yes 00:06:14 <glx> a .patch should be applied to ottd source, then you need to compile 00:06:31 <Markavian`> ok, I'm not set up for that, so I won't ask 00:06:53 *** Born_Acorn [n=bornacor@ACD70DEB.ipt.aol.com] has quit [] 00:07:03 <Markavian`> btw, I really like the new terrain gen 00:07:08 <Markavian`> so thx for whoever got that working 00:07:34 <glx> I think richk67 will put new releases next week (when he will back) 00:07:54 <glx> but I'm not sure 00:07:57 <Markavian`> ok 00:08:21 <Markavian`> another Q, do any of the OpenTTD patches let you adjust the 'spread rate' of cities 00:08:47 <glx> don't know 00:09:14 <Markavian`> I remember settings for TTDPatch, but I'm quite sick of rate cities grow at 00:19:14 <Eddi|zuHause2> you could read through the source and change the appropriate lines yourself ;) 00:19:24 <Eddi|zuHause2> how to compile is in the wiki 00:26:18 *** CobraA3 [n=Jeremiah@cpe-024-088-000-194.sc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 00:27:28 *** CobraA3 [n=Jeremiah@cpe-024-088-000-194.sc.res.rr.com] has left #openttd [] 00:33:43 <Eddi|zuHause2> tipp: i'd try town.h:135 00:34:00 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B812FC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ["It's like, wah."] 00:34:51 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B812FC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 00:35:12 *** Tobin [n=Tobin@c211-28-197-129.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 00:35:52 <Markavian`> has any one tried the 'UK Renewal Set' with OpenTTD? 00:36:09 <glx> yes it works well 00:36:21 <Markavian`> neat, I'll try get it working 00:36:53 <glx> but I suggest you to use the nighly (better newgrf support including newstations) 00:37:56 <Markavian`> how recent nightly? I'm using mini-IN at the moment which is based off the nightly 00:38:00 <Eddi|zuHause2> you should take a look at http://ppcis.org/nightly 00:38:14 <Eddi|zuHause2> the mini-IN is a little old 00:38:20 <Eddi|zuHause2> it does not have newstations support 00:38:54 <Markavian`> ok 00:43:21 <Markavian`> can I use a folder prefix to new.grf files in the data directory? e.g. filestructure : data\custom\some.grf openttd.cfg [newgrf] custom\some.grf 00:43:41 <glx> yes 00:44:28 <Eddi|zuHause2> you should probably use / 00:44:54 *** Andrew67 [i=andrew67@206.248.80.224] has quit [Client Quit] 00:44:55 *** Trippledence_ [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 00:45:12 <Markavian`> I'm on windows tho 00:45:22 *** Trippledence_ [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 00:45:43 <Eddi|zuHause2> well... i do, and it works fine 00:45:45 <Markavian`> sadly my ISP sucks and I can't join brianetta's server 00:46:11 <glx> you have the correct grfs, in correct order ? 00:47:41 *** christooss [n=matic@clj20-83.dial-up.arnes.si] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 00:49:16 <Markavian`> probably ... but no, its my ISP that sucks. They've blocked almost all ports, inc OpenTTD's ones 00:49:58 <Markavian`> so it seems I get a list of servers but I can't view or connect any details about them 00:50:38 <Eddi|zuHause2> i urgently suggest to switch ISPs 00:51:11 <Eddi|zuHause2> you pay them to ACCESS the internet, not get 99% of it blocked 00:51:13 <glx> hmm you have the same ottd version as the server you want to connect? 00:53:09 <Markavian`> I don't get a choice in this shoddy student accomodation 00:53:19 <Markavian`> glx, yes. Its a port thing. 00:53:52 <glx> so UDP is open but TCP is closed? 00:53:56 <glx> really weird 00:54:01 <Eddi|zuHause2> use some kind of proxy? 00:54:24 <Markavian`> like, a proxy where? 00:55:23 <Eddi|zuHause2> google->open proxy list or something? 00:55:32 <Eddi|zuHause2> be a little creative ;) 00:55:52 <Eddi|zuHause2> but i have no clue how to set up OTTD to use a proxy 00:59:31 <Markavian`> Maybe by setting connect_to_ip = to somethnig special 00:59:36 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 00:59:50 <Markavian`> I dunno what that value does actually 01:01:27 <Markavian`> someone tried to help me sort it once by forwarding their server to port 80 (HTTP) 01:02:33 <Markavian`> but it still wouldn't work properly, probably because OpenTTd was still sending data out on 3979 01:02:33 <Markavian`> instead of back on 80 01:03:22 <Eddi|zuHause2> a client should only need an outgoing TCP connection 01:03:23 <glx> hmm should work if the server is set to port 80, and the client connects to server via port 80 01:03:48 <Markavian`> :: jaw drops :: 01:03:55 <Markavian`> got the new gfr working........ 01:04:15 <Markavian`> ... custom station tiles? `_` 01:04:24 *** _Red [n=Red@81-86-117-11.dsl.pipex.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:05:04 <Markavian`> glx, yes I agree. I think this person was trying to get his server to run on port 80 and port 3979 at the same time 01:05:31 <glx> I think that's not possible (at least for ottd) 01:07:38 <Markavian`> this is so cool! 01:07:58 <glx> newstations? 01:08:03 <Markavian`> yah 01:08:11 <Markavian`> :: smiles all over :: 01:08:19 <Markavian`> I'm playing with the coal load / unloader stations 01:08:22 <Eddi|zuHause2> yes, some of them are quite neat ;) 01:08:23 <Markavian`> and... theres just a huge list 01:09:01 <Eddi|zuHause2> just refrain from using empty station tiles (grass) ;) 01:09:27 <Markavian`> lol 01:09:30 <glx> usefull to connect stations invisibly 01:09:37 <Markavian`> sadly, I'm missing pbs already 01:09:58 *** [D]Shaman [n=nnscript@ip503c1f52.speed.planet.nl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 01:11:19 <Eddi|zuHause2> i know the feeling ;) 01:15:08 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B812FC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ["It's like, wah."] 01:15:34 *** Trippledence_ [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:15:45 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B812FC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 01:27:22 <SimonRC> Markavian`: realy, what's happened to it? 01:34:23 <Markavian`> what happened to what SimonRC? 01:34:38 <SimonRC> /topic "<@Bjarni> actually the main task today was train driving || <@Bjarni> kind of like MS train sim, but a lot more realistic" 01:34:47 <SimonRC> "< Markavian`> sadly, I'm missing pbs already" 01:36:05 *** Ihmemies [i=ihmemies@a81-197-121-141.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit ["Signed off"] 01:36:08 <Markavian`> last I heard pbs had been removed from the main trunk and was only available using the mini-IN patch 01:36:47 <glx> that's still the case 01:36:52 <SimonRC> hmm, ok 01:37:26 <SimonRC> How is OTTD's performance compared to that of TTD original? 01:37:48 <Markavian`> performance, heck if I know, but its far more fun 'cause of the extra features 01:37:55 <SimonRC> yeah 01:38:16 <SimonRC> I was asking for the purposes of C-to-ASM comparison. 01:39:05 <SimonRC> Did you know many of his games were written entirely in ASM? Even RRT1! 01:39:15 <ln-> we did. 01:39:18 <SimonRC> RCT, even 01:39:40 <SimonRC> bah 01:40:06 * SimonRC tries to think of something relevant he knows that no-one else here does 01:41:33 <glx> I can say that on my machine, ottd is faster than ttdp (but can be different for someone else) 01:43:00 <glx> (PII 233Mhz, 256Mo, winXP) 01:46:56 <Markavian`> ASM, assembly? 01:51:28 <SimonRC> yes 02:02:11 <Markavian`> Anyone thought about adding 'decoration tiles' to the landscape panel? 02:02:37 <glx> what do you mean? 02:03:01 <Markavian`> like, dirt types, special buildings, stuff by the side of tracks 02:06:00 *** Markavian [n=Markavia@82.108.95.249] has joined #OpenTTD 02:06:11 <Markavian> my PC crashed, so I missed anyl responses 02:06:25 <Markavian> 'decoration tiles', extra tiles that you place for decoration 02:06:43 *** DaleStan [n=Dale@pool-71-98-89-81.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 02:06:52 <glx> I don't the need of those decorations 02:07:14 <Markavian> don't see the need*? 02:07:24 <glx> +see yes :) 02:07:44 * glx should go to sleep :) 02:08:05 <glx> night 02:08:16 *** glx [i=glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit ["Bye!"] 02:08:19 <Markavian> bye 02:09:00 <Markavian> the need? The need is to make things look pretty. Why else would you need two dozen station types? 02:12:03 *** DaleStan [n=Dale@pool-71-98-89-81.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 02:23:50 *** Markavian` [n=Markavia@82.108.95.249] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 02:36:05 *** ernie_ [n=ernie@c148190.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #openttd 02:38:31 *** ernie_hh [n=ernie@c228140.adsl.hansenet.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 02:42:55 *** Trippledence_ [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 02:43:47 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 02:46:53 *** CobraA2 [n=Jeremiah@cpe-024-088-000-194.sc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 02:47:17 *** CobraA2 [n=Jeremiah@cpe-024-088-000-194.sc.res.rr.com] has left #openttd [] 03:31:14 *** Forexs [i=Forexs@x1-6-00-0f-b5-14-63-5f.k136.webspeed.dk] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 04:00:31 *** SBT-Xchat [n=Tibeius@211-74-179-201.adsl.dynamic.seed.net.tw] has joined #openttd 04:08:42 *** Serotonin___ [n=not@CPE-72-135-2-46.kc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 04:11:31 *** Trippledence__ [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 04:16:01 *** TiberiusTeng [n=Tibeius@211-74-179-202.adsl.dynamic.seed.net.tw] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 04:17:24 *** Serotonin_ [n=not@CPE-72-135-2-46.kc.res.rr.com] has quit [Connection timed out] 04:17:42 *** Belugas_Gone [n=Jfranc@216.191.111.226] has joined #openttd 04:18:53 *** Belugas [n=Jfranc@216.191.111.226] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 04:32:18 *** Trippledence_ [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 04:45:02 *** Mucht|zZz [n=Mucht@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 04:46:04 *** Zahl [n=SENFGURK@dslb-082-083-254-161.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit ["YOU! It was you wasn't it!?"] 04:48:36 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B812FC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ["It's like, wah."] 05:17:29 *** brygge_2 [n=brygge_2@81.166.137.5] has joined #openttd 05:17:57 *** dp [n=dp@p54B2F99A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 05:18:41 *** RoySmeding [n=Roy@c514451cb.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 05:25:07 *** _Red [n=Red@81-86-117-11.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #openttd 05:32:19 *** angerman [n=angerman@e181111026.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 05:33:58 *** dp-- [n=dp@p54B2D609.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:33:58 *** dp is now known as dp-- 05:34:58 *** RoySmeding_ [n=Roy@c514451cb.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 05:43:00 *** RoySmeding [n=Roy@c514451cb.cable.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 05:44:08 <SimonRC> There really should be an automatic decorations mode, for those of use who can't be bothered to make things pretty by hand. 05:45:02 <brygge_2> crush 05:45:17 <brygge_2> oops. wrong channel =) 05:45:31 <SimonRC> /whois brygge_2 05:46:17 *** hazelrah [n=me@p2197-ipad201funabasi.chiba.ocn.ne.jp] has joined #OpenTTD 05:47:36 * brygge_2 is on that play openttd=) 05:47:44 <brygge_2> one* 05:48:23 <SimonRC> I was hoping to find out which window you indended to type that in. 05:49:10 <brygge_2> lol, you don't want to know that..... 05:53:49 *** angerman [n=angerman@e181111026.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [] 05:54:07 *** brygge_2 [n=brygge_2@81.166.137.5] has left #openttd [] 05:56:21 *** AciD [n=gni@unaffiliated/acid] has quit [No route to host] 06:01:54 *** Fujitsu [n=fujitsu@c211-28-183-112.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 06:08:58 *** Serotonin___ [n=not@CPE-72-135-2-46.kc.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 06:09:04 *** RoySmeding_ [n=Roy@c514451cb.cable.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Client Quit] 06:09:27 *** Serotonin_ [n=not@CPE-72-135-2-46.kc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 06:12:43 *** SBT-Xchat is now known as TiberiusTeng 06:14:38 *** Fujitsu [n=fujitsu@c211-28-183-112.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit ["Bye all."] 06:15:27 *** Fujitsu [n=fujitsu@c211-28-183-112.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 06:17:21 *** Jenkz [n=nobody@80-192-44-21.cable.ubr05.dund.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 06:19:44 *** AciD [n=gni@tehpwnz.org] has joined #openttd 06:29:55 *** angerman [n=angerman@e181111026.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 06:43:00 *** ThePizzaKing [n=thepizza@c211-28-155-182.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 06:47:26 *** angerman [n=angerman@e181111026.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [] 06:48:23 *** Zerot_ [i=Zerot@g35026.upc-g.chello.nl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 06:49:40 <CIA-3> peter1138 * r4872 /trunk/newgrf_engine.c: - NewGRF: add support for vehicle variable 0x47 (mart3p) 06:53:43 *** Zerot [i=Zerot@g35026.upc-g.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 06:59:20 *** mikl [n=mikl@pdpc/supporter/active/mikl] has joined #openttd 07:01:45 *** ThePizzaKing [n=thepizza@c211-28-155-182.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 07:06:57 *** kujeger_work [n=kujeger@pc-99-88.p52.hio.no] has joined #openttd 07:18:28 *** Nubian [n=nubian@193.93.73.116] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 07:22:58 *** Nubian [n=nubian@193.93.73.116] has joined #openttd 07:23:04 *** Osai [n=Osai@p54B357E7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 07:26:02 *** ThePizzaKing [n=thepizza@c211-28-155-182.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 07:28:10 *** SBT-Xchat [n=Tibeius@211-74-179-201.adsl.dynamic.seed.net.tw] has joined #openttd 07:29:28 *** BJH [n=chatzill@e176097130.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 07:46:17 *** TiberiusTeng [n=Tibeius@211-74-179-201.adsl.dynamic.seed.net.tw] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 07:46:48 *** KUDr_wrk [n=KUDr@195.39.113.200] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 07:54:40 *** christooss [n=matic@clj20-83.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #openttd 08:01:58 *** Serotonin_ [n=not@CPE-72-135-2-46.kc.res.rr.com] has quit [Connection timed out] 08:09:25 <Darkvater> wow, installing suse10.1 is a blast :S 08:09:38 <Darkvater> missing libraries, no network and my dvd-rom isn't mounted 08:09:39 <Darkvater> S: 08:11:48 <Fujitsu> Stupid SuSE. 08:11:50 <Fujitsu> Ubuntu is good. 08:12:03 * Darkvater slaps ubuntu 08:12:45 <Fujitsu> Yes, I thought it reeked of n00b as well (after coming from Slackware and Debian), but I have grown to like it. 08:12:45 *** ThePizzaKing [n=thepizza@c211-28-155-182.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit ["And he disappears, like a fox, in the night."] 08:12:56 <peter1138> heh 08:13:18 <peter1138> most of non-gnome is still debian branded 08:13:43 <Fujitsu> It /is/ basically Debian. 08:13:48 <peter1138> mostly 08:13:48 <Fujitsu> But with a twist :O 08:13:50 <Fujitsu> *:P 08:13:57 <peter1138> Darkvater: did you get anywhere with freetype/iconv? 08:14:34 <Darkvater> peter1138: well freetype works but I'm still needa decide what calling convention to use and what modules of freetype to skip 08:14:39 <Darkvater> iconv: no time 08:15:59 <Darkvater> but I got the laptop back for the week :D 08:16:34 <Darkvater> ooook 08:16:42 <Darkvater> yast2 can't mount my cdrom 08:16:44 <Darkvater> wtf 08:17:03 <peter1138> o_O 08:17:59 <Darkvater> libx11.so is somehow not installed so I can't run X 08:18:00 <Darkvater> hehe 08:18:06 <Darkvater> what a noob-OS 08:18:07 <peter1138> nice install 08:18:46 *** Neonox [n=Neonox@ip-80-226-207-212.vodafone-net.de] has joined #openttd 08:19:24 <Fujitsu> Darkvater, SuSE is not particularly good any more. 08:19:26 <Fujitsu> Ubuntu is. 08:19:41 <peter1138> was it ever good? 08:19:51 <peter1138> mind, i last used it around 6.2 08:19:57 <Fujitsu> peter1138, it apparently was, although I never thought it was good. 08:20:13 <Darkvater> 9.3 was good 08:20:16 <Fujitsu> Mind you, I do have a SuSE 6.1 manual sitting next to me which I picked up from somewhere a couple of years back. 08:24:51 <Darkvater> ooook 08:24:58 <Darkvater> I don't have libexpat on the install dvd?? 08:25:31 <Darkvater> hmm 08:25:38 <Fujitsu> Silly. 08:26:37 <Darkvater> aklwejfq2[ 08uqw b 08:26:37 <Darkvater> fasdf 08:27:19 <Darkvater> how the fuck am I supposed to install anything if A depends on B and B depends on A 08:27:32 <peter1138> both at the same time" 08:28:42 <Darkvater> whohoo, even more dependencies 08:29:02 <Darkvater> so eh what do I do 08:29:13 <Prof_Frink> use ubuntu. 08:29:14 <Darkvater> fontconfig needs freetype, xorg needs freetype 08:29:23 <Darkvater> so I add rpm fontconfig, freetype, and xorg 08:29:32 <Darkvater> and it tells me failed, cause freetype is needed 08:29:34 <Darkvater> O_O 08:30:41 <Darkvater> and I can't install freetype cause it needs libSM and libICE which I can't find 08:30:50 <Darkvater> great fucking good job you suse geeks 08:31:40 <vondel> time to call the helpdesk? 08:31:49 <vondel> (if you bought the dvd's) 08:32:03 <Darkvater> funny 08:32:21 <Fujitsu> I /love/ RPM. 08:32:39 <Fujitsu> RPM dependency hell. Gotta love it. 08:32:59 * Fujitsu huggles apt(-get|itude) 08:33:53 <Darkvater> muhhaha and media-check works on the cd 08:33:57 * Darkvater goes slowly insane 08:35:06 * Fujitsu relieves Darkvater's insanity with some Ubuntu. 08:35:10 <Fujitsu> Isn't that right, Prof_Frink? 08:36:01 <Fujitsu> Yes, I dare to question Great Leader Darkvater's judgement. 08:38:23 *** Aankhen`` [n=pockled@203.101.11.160] has joined #openttd 08:40:12 <Darkvater> Following some eight months of testing, the openSUSE project has finally released the long-delayed and much-awaited SUSE Linux 10.1 08:40:18 <Fujitsu> Terrific. 08:40:22 <Darkvater> I donnu what these guys have been doing the last 8 months 08:40:32 <Fujitsu> Exactly. 08:40:51 <Fujitsu> Ubuntu 6.06 will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, 5 years on server, and is already incredibly stable. 08:41:22 <Darkvater> o_O and now the cd works 08:41:24 <Fujitsu> Unbuggy, the installation gives you a working system... 08:41:32 <Darkvater> *AFTER* I have added it manually to /etc/fstab 08:41:42 <Darkvater> (and a reboot) 08:41:49 <Fujitsu> Silly, silly SuSE. 08:42:16 <Fujitsu> Darkvater, didn't they change the capitalization back from SUSE to SuSE a couple of months back!? 08:42:39 <Darkvater> donnu, the login still says SUSE 08:42:46 <Fujitsu> Silly, it was changed again. 08:42:47 <Darkvater> but the text is SuSE 08:43:16 <Darkvater> and behold /me has X 08:43:31 <Fujitsu> Took you a while. 08:43:33 <Darkvater> hmm maybe not 08:43:38 <Fujitsu> SuSE gives Linux a bad name. 08:43:44 *** Neonox [n=Neonox@ip-80-226-207-212.vodafone-net.de] has quit ["muss wech"] 08:44:13 <Darkvater> aha 08:44:22 <Fujitsu> ? 08:44:24 <Darkvater> 'FBDEV: FBIOBLANK: Invalid argument' 08:44:27 <Darkvater> ... 08:45:14 <Fujitsu> ... SuSE is bad, what can I say. 08:47:01 <Darkvater> I think the dependency calculation on install is totally broken 08:48:25 *** Scia [n=sciapode@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 08:48:32 <Fujitsu> No, you don't say? 08:48:38 <Fujitsu> Like Fedora Core 5. 08:48:56 <Darkvater> he it works now 08:49:02 <Darkvater> qt3 lib was missing o_O 08:50:09 <Fujitsu> ... 08:50:10 <Fujitsu> KDE... 08:53:30 *** Aankhen`` [n=pockled@203.101.11.160] has quit ["Look ma, no script!"] 08:54:02 <Darkvater> ok wtf something's terribly broke! 08:54:08 <Darkvater> I can't even open my computer 08:54:09 <Darkvater> ... 08:55:24 * peter1138 throws .deb-based cds around 08:56:49 <Darkvater> wtf...where are ALL my apps? 08:56:58 * Darkvater thinks this is highly suspicious 08:57:01 <peter1138> y 08:57:30 *** hazelrah [n=me@p2197-ipad201funabasi.chiba.ocn.ne.jp] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:57:31 * Fujitsu agrees with peter1138. 08:57:42 <Darkvater> hmm...the question is now 08:57:42 * Fujitsu throws his new shipment of Ubuntu CDs at Darkvater. 08:57:44 <peter1138> update-rc.d: warning: /etc/rc2.d/K09samba is not a link to ../init.d/samba or /etc/init.d/samba 08:57:48 <peter1138> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 6 2004-12-14 08:20 /etc/rc2.d/K09samba -> /samba 08:57:49 <peter1138> o_O 08:57:51 <Fujitsu> (took 12 days to arrive from Europe, for free) 08:58:00 * peter1138 wonders why it was linked to / anyway... 08:58:01 <Darkvater> 1. do I want to reinstall 10.1 again or 2. go back to windows? 08:58:08 <Fujitsu> Your init scripts are stuffed, peter1138. 08:58:13 <Fujitsu> Darkvater, try Ubuntu. I'm serious. 08:58:16 <peter1138> Fujitsu: apparently, i relinked it. 08:58:22 <Darkvater> I am NOT doing ubuntu 08:58:22 <peter1138> i never changed it, though, heh 08:58:27 <Darkvater> besdies, I hate gnome 08:58:32 <Fujitsu> Kubuntu, then. 08:58:40 <Fujitsu> Why not Ubuntu, Darkvater? 08:58:57 <Darkvater> I had some bad experiences with it 08:59:07 <peter1138> and not with suse? :P 08:59:15 <Darkvater> not until now 08:59:32 <Fujitsu> What bad experiencen? 08:59:36 <Fujitsu> And when? 08:59:45 <Darkvater> year ago 09:00:26 <Fujitsu> Oh. Ages. 09:01:47 <Fujitsu> Whatever bad experience you had is probably no more. 09:02:39 <Darkvater> I am serious...wtf happened to the start menu. All I got is 'recent documents', 'my system' and 'run command' 09:02:50 <Darkvater> my system only has my computer, userfolder and shit like that 09:03:07 <Fujitsu> SuSE has f???ed itself. 09:03:17 <vondel> task #171 (flyspray) can be closed 09:03:33 <Darkvater> the 'my computer' shortcut opens the sysinfo... 09:04:12 <Darkvater> which does look cool but is not what you would want 09:04:49 <Fujitsu> Darkvater, trust me, that installation is DEAD. 09:05:08 * Darkvater flips a coint for windows or reinstall 09:05:23 <Fujitsu> I suggest installing Ubuntu 5.10 (or 6.06 beta), reinstall SuSE, but please don't go back to Windows :( 09:05:32 <peter1138> hmm, i left newsounds at home 09:05:37 <peter1138> go back to windows 09:05:40 <Fujitsu> peter1138, bad! 09:05:44 <peter1138> i need you to sort out freetype/iconv ;) 09:05:54 <Darkvater> I don't need windows for that 09:05:54 <Fujitsu> peter1138, please don't encourage him D: 09:05:55 <Darkvater> vmware 09:07:21 <peter1138> hmm 09:07:29 <peter1138> so how shall we handle user input, anyway? 09:08:08 <Darkvater> gracefully 09:08:15 <peter1138> the russian's patches use a totally separate windows sepcific window to enter stuff (i think) 09:08:28 <Fujitsu> Oh dear. 09:09:44 <peter1138> hmm 09:09:44 <Darkvater> oh shit 09:09:50 <peter1138> ? 09:09:50 <Darkvater> forgot my coin 09:09:54 <peter1138> heh 09:10:18 <peter1138> we could come up with a compose system 09:10:22 <Darkvater> o_O. The new networkmanagerdispatcher only works on X 09:10:32 <peter1138> cos afaik the sdl input ignores all that stuff and just gives the key presses 09:10:56 <Darkvater> who cares about sdl? :) 09:11:07 <peter1138> ... 09:11:12 <peter1138> we do 09:11:49 <Fujitsu> Darkvater, noooooooo. 09:12:46 <peter1138> our video/ directory also includes our key handling code 09:12:46 <Fujitsu> Dinner. 09:12:49 <peter1138> yum. 09:12:54 <Fujitsu> ... 09:13:02 <Fujitsu> Was that a deliberate pun, peter1138? 09:13:06 <Darkvater> whohooo I can't eject my dvd 09:13:09 <Darkvater> 'permissions denied' 09:13:16 <Fujitsu> Darkvater, we all love SuSE> 09:13:36 <peter1138> hmm 09:13:44 <peter1138> SDLEnableUnicode() 09:14:09 <Darkvater> lkajwef 0qv83a 09:14:10 <Darkvater> dfa 09:14:10 <Darkvater> sd 09:14:44 * Darkvater does a reinstall with all default stuff but if that doesn't work I'm back to windows 09:15:31 <peter1138> hmm, looks like that might be the way 09:15:45 <Darkvater> windows, yes ;p 09:15:56 <peter1138> no, SDLEnableUnicode :P 09:16:00 <Darkvater> I know 09:16:01 <peter1138> dunno about windows though 09:16:26 <peter1138> or coca 09:16:28 <peter1138> +o 09:16:43 <Darkvater> I am willing to go the osx way if someone donates me one 09:16:54 <Darkvater> Fujitsu: :) 09:17:14 <peter1138> ····SDL_CALL SDL_EnableUNICODE(1); 09:17:18 <peter1138> oh, we do anyway. hmm. 09:17:35 <Darkvater> he? 09:19:03 <peter1138> hmm 09:19:07 <peter1138> so then input... hmm. 09:19:19 *** Mizipzor [n=mizipzor@c-528571d5.01-15-73746f6.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 09:19:43 *** mizipzor_ [n=mizipzor@c-528571d5.01-15-73746f6.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 09:19:50 *** Mizipzor [n=mizipzor@c-528571d5.01-15-73746f6.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Client Quit] 09:19:53 *** mizipzor_ [n=mizipzor@c-528571d5.01-15-73746f6.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Connection reset by peer] 09:19:54 *** Mizipzor [n=mizipzor@c-528571d5.01-15-73746f6.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 09:20:41 <peter1138> ····we.keypress.ascii = key & 0xFF; 09:20:43 <peter1138> hmm 09:20:53 <blathijs> 11:03 < Darkvater> the 'my computer' shortcut opens the sysinfo... <-- You mean you have a "my computer" shortcut in your linux install? 09:20:59 <Darkvater> yes 09:21:18 <blathijs> I think making your linux look so much like windows will probably make it behave so erratic as windows ;-p 09:21:33 <Darkvater> :) 09:21:54 <Darkvater> I think I might've screwed something up with package selection so now I am doing just a default install 09:22:00 <Darkvater> and just delete the crap afterards 09:22:15 <blathijs> ah :-) 09:22:37 <Darkvater> good think I was using linux for over a year now 09:22:44 <Darkvater> otherwise I would've gone straight back 09:22:49 <blathijs> dunno, no experience with SuSE 09:23:19 * stillunknown dislikes SuSE 09:23:32 <blathijs> but some improvisation skills help with using linux ;-) 09:23:55 <stillunknown> (dislikes any release based os, where fluid updating is practically impossible) 09:24:53 <vondel> blathijs: iirc you're desktop-environment was weird (but very usable) 09:25:01 <vondel> s/you're/your/ 09:25:30 *** Xaroth [n=nnscript@ip503c1f52.speed.planet.nl] has joined #openttd 09:25:36 <blathijs> stillunknown: indeed :-) 09:26:06 <vondel> yeah, i like doing updates, year after year 09:26:07 *** Xaroth is now known as [Shaman] 09:26:27 <stillunknown> if you're not afraid of the console, you could try gentoo or arch linux or maybe one of the *BSD's (no experience with those though) 09:26:40 <blathijs> vondel: My environment is plain enlightenment, no kde or gnome or other useless stuff 09:27:13 <vondel> one fullscreen-window per virtual desktop? 09:27:26 <blathijs> not on my desktop 09:27:50 * vondel just checked his server: install-date looks to be jan 2003, one major prob during updates 09:27:57 <blathijs> though I have used ratpoison before 09:28:00 <vondel> in the 3 year period 09:28:11 <stillunknown> what os? 09:28:27 <blathijs> and I use ion on my laptop now, which does fullscreen windows 09:28:49 *** shintah [i=bebble@bebble.olf.sgsnet.se] has joined #openttd 09:29:00 <vondel> stillunknown: debian 09:31:10 *** Mukke [n=Mukke@x1-6-00-13-8f-3d-00-a9.k146.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 09:31:34 <blathijs> stillunknown: me uses debian too, which does upgrading rather ok 09:31:48 <blathijs> even with debian stable, which is essentially release based 09:32:06 <stillunknown> i've never used debian, but i've heard it's better than suse, fedora, etc 09:33:14 <vondel> there's a bias in those opinions 09:33:25 <stillunknown> ofcource 09:33:44 <vondel> only people who have some skill in basic sysadmin use debian 09:33:58 <stillunknown> but debian doesn't have the rpm hell (i think) 09:35:08 <vondel> because almost all packages can be found in the repositories 09:35:32 <vondel> and a good frontend 09:35:35 <stillunknown> last time i used suse it was a bitch to install anything not included by default, but it's been a while 09:36:03 <blathijs> same here, haven't used RPM in 5 years or so 09:36:25 <valhallazzzw> deb O+ 09:36:32 <vondel> i like aptitude: it knows which packages were automatically installed (to solve dependencies), so if it's no longer needed, it's uninstalled 09:36:42 <valhallazzzw> hehe 09:36:46 <valhallazzzw> http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/05/14/2059242&from=rss <-- why the GPL is bad for users :( 09:37:41 <vondel> like windows ships with nvidia-drivers.... 09:37:49 <valhallazzzw> no 09:38:04 <valhallazzzw> but installing nvidia-drivers in linux is a bit harder than in windows 09:38:43 <vondel> a decent distro has a gui to retrieve/install those drivers 09:39:10 <valhallazzzw> now that's useful 09:39:29 <valhallazzzw> because the GPL limits you in shipping the drivers, you build an interface to retrieve them 09:40:37 <vondel> that's one of the restrictions the kernel-people put on their project, if you don't like it, use another kernel 09:41:13 <valhallazzzw> erm 09:41:16 <peter1138> like, say, windows :D 09:41:25 <vondel> bsd kernel 09:41:30 <valhallazzzw> you are completely missing the point obviously 09:41:59 <valhallazzzw> I stated that the GPL is bad for users 09:42:05 <valhallazzzw> you react with 'use another kernel' 09:42:11 <vondel> on the short term it's bad 09:42:23 <vondel> on the longer term it's bad to allow inclusion of binaries 09:42:28 <valhallazzzw> nvidia can't GPL their drivers 09:42:40 <stillunknown> why not? 09:42:43 <[Shaman]> [vondel]: only people who have some skill in basic sysadmin use debian << I started out on debian, still use it. 09:43:01 <[Shaman]> never had any trouble with it that my limited linux knowledge could fix. 09:43:12 <valhallazzzw> a) it includes 'inside' information about their video cards -> competition 09:43:29 <valhallazzzw> b) they have to think of patent restrictions of other companies 09:43:49 <peter1138> c) gpl sucks ;p 09:43:56 <blathijs> they say the frontends have improved... 09:44:01 <[Shaman]> d) Everybody would see they produce sucky code :p 09:44:39 <Kjetil> what inside information would that be ? 09:44:46 <valhallazzzw> debian is easy, as long as you know apt-get and apt-cache ;) 09:44:58 <valhallazzzw> Kjetil: drivers contain information about the cards structure 09:45:01 <[Shaman]> valhallazzzw: True, apt-get saved my live a million times allready :P 09:45:12 <valhallazzzw> so ATi would be very pleased if NVidia GPL'ed their drivers 09:45:15 <vondel> if linux gets depended on closed source drivers, nvidia could effectively shut down linux 09:45:26 <valhallazzzw> because? 09:45:38 <[Shaman]> Not at all, vondel 09:45:40 <vondel> and other companies would see the precendent, and would never release an open source driver 09:45:44 <Kjetil> valhallazzzw: and.. ATI can't just.. reverse engineer the drivers or reverse engineer nvidias cards ? 09:46:02 <vondel> now people are still working on open source nvidia driver 09:46:09 <valhallazzzw> Kjetil: that's a lot harder than having the source in front of you 09:46:23 <[Shaman]> not to mention they aren't allowed to reverse-engineer it :P 09:46:31 <Kjetil> *ponders how openttd was made* 09:46:47 <Kjetil> Might it have something to do with ttd asm ? 09:46:47 <[Shaman]> Kjetil: word by word :P 09:47:16 <Fujitsu> Hehehhe 09:47:26 <Kjetil> They could do it with clean room reverse engineering 09:47:28 <[Shaman]> games, and old games in special, are more easy to mimic than recent software 09:47:33 * stillunknown considered using the open source nv drivers, but loosing 3d accel is not very nice 09:48:00 <peter1138> they're noticeably slower at 2D too 09:48:48 <stillunknown> i thought they were 2d accelerated 09:49:09 <peter1138> that doesn't mean the performance will be the same 09:50:28 <valhallazzzw> anyway, I hope you don't honestly think NVidia will GPL their drivers because of Linux 09:51:26 <vondel> they could release the bits of their hardware-spec 09:51:39 <valhallazzzw> they won't 09:51:51 <stillunknown> i hope they will gpl what they can (i doubt the current nv driver is the maximum of what they can do) 09:52:44 <[Shaman]> They should gpl every bit they 'can' gpl 09:53:15 <vondel> not necesarry gpl, but gpl compatible 09:53:19 <valhallazzzw> we should send in some guys from SUN ;) 09:54:07 <Fujitsu> Hahahahah 09:54:10 <Fujitsu> Very true. 09:55:06 <valhallazzzw> now I wonder 09:55:20 <valhallazzzw> what if they would create a driver which has a BSD'ed base 09:55:45 <Fujitsu> ... 09:55:46 <Fujitsu> Urgh. 09:55:47 <valhallazzzw> will GPL still prevent them from including binary parts? ;) 09:56:03 <vondel> no 09:56:17 <vondel> because then you have the sources to completely build the system 09:56:28 <vondel> the system as distributed 09:56:40 <valhallazzzw> hmkay 09:56:49 <valhallazzzw> IIRC nvidia includes some sort of source code 09:57:54 <vondel> just interfacing code 09:58:27 <valhallazzzw> yes 09:58:37 <valhallazzzw> but that code allows you to build the system 09:58:54 <vondel> does not allow you the build the nvidia-binary part 09:59:12 <valhallazzzw> 11:55 < valhallazzzw> will GPL still prevent them from including binary parts? ;) 09:59:36 <vondel> you can include it, but you cannot distribute it included 10:00:03 <valhallazzzw> erm? 10:00:25 <vondel> gpl: free to use anyway you like + distribute only under certain conditions 10:00:45 <valhallazzzw> yes 10:01:43 <vondel> i'm not sure about including the nvidia installer 10:01:47 <vondel> i'd say yes 10:02:10 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B812FC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 10:02:31 *** ThePizzaKing [n=thepizza@c211-28-155-182.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 10:02:44 <vondel> and at startup a simple dialog: "We think this system has a NVIDIA video card, do you want to install the NVIDIA-driver? (YES/no)" 10:03:01 <vondel> same thing for ATI/Matrox/Etc 10:04:32 <valhallazzzw> can they distribute the binary info with the distro? 10:07:20 <valhallazzzw> ... right 10:07:31 <valhallazzzw> the end user only has to press YES and switch cd's 10:08:32 <valhallazzzw> "What constitutes combining two parts into one program? This is a legal question, which ultimately judges will decide." --From the FSF 10:09:02 <vondel> would be good if some lawyers/judges gave opinions about it 10:09:17 <vondel> maybe the prof who was codesigner of the gpl 10:09:53 <valhallazzzw> the FSF has opinions about *every* part of the GPL 10:10:04 <valhallazzzw> they keep whining about "a diff is not the source" etc 10:13:16 <valhallazzzw> and of couse, the stupid "module-inclusion = using it to build the source" 10:13:27 <valhallazzzw> which makes it impossible to GPL modules for closed-source software 10:14:17 <Darkvater> ok, this default install seems to work 10:14:25 <Fujitsu> Goodo.l 10:15:29 <Darkvater> but I am still going back to windows 10:15:33 <Darkvater> *hr* *hr* 10:16:14 *** hector3d [i=hector@meinungsverstaerker.de] has left #openttd [] 10:16:39 <Darkvater> I'd wish linux had a more sane free-memory info 10:16:45 <Fujitsu> ? 10:16:49 <vondel> free 10:16:51 <Darkvater> free memory: 17MB (+ 833MB caches) 10:17:08 <Darkvater> I mean come on..just tel me I have 850MB free 10:17:17 <Darkvater> and say in parentheses that 833 is cached 10:17:21 *** Aankhen`` [n=pockled@203.101.11.160] has joined #openttd 10:17:24 <Fujitsu> Perhaps. 10:17:46 <Fujitsu> Linux makes good use of the RAM you give it. 10:17:50 <Fujitsu> Windows doesn't. 10:18:00 * vondel points Darkvater to the second row in the output of "free" 10:18:04 <Darkvater> I don't care about that. It is still confusing 10:18:34 <Darkvater> keke 10:18:46 <peter1138> ok, utf-8keyboard input works 10:18:59 <peter1138> although i can't get a euro... 10:19:01 <peter1138> X11: Unknown xsym, sym = 0x20ac 10:19:04 <peter1138> o_O 10:19:23 <ln-> ? 10:19:46 <peter1138> nearly there thoughy 10:19:52 <Fujitsu> Heheh 10:24:28 <peter1138> -y 10:24:46 <Darkvater> :) 10:26:10 <peter1138> hmm 10:26:25 <peter1138> this needs a bit of thinking 10:26:30 <peter1138> and i should do some work 10:31:46 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@adsl-83-100-228-42.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 10:32:24 <Sacro> morning all 10:34:12 <Darkvater> http://darkvater.openttd.org/digicam/suse10.1.jpg < install disk :) 10:34:23 *** Brianetta [n=brian@82-39-48-88.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 10:34:59 <Sacro> well i was thinking of getting my hands on a copy of it 10:35:03 * peter1138 ponders making the textbuf handle ucs-4 10:37:03 <Tobin> Darkvater: What happened to the magic bridges thread? 10:37:16 * Darkvater forwards question to celestar 10:37:25 *** Bjarni [n=Bjarni@0x50a41629.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 10:37:28 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 10:37:38 * Tobin waves at Bjarni 10:40:32 <peter1138> ah, seems the cocoa drivers handle unicode too 10:41:02 * Bjarni waves back 10:41:21 <peter1138> i bet the win32 driver doesn't 10:41:32 <Bjarni> peter1138: nice. How did you manage to code that without a mac to test on? 10:41:36 <peter1138> hmm, converts keyboardstate to ascii, so... 10:41:36 <Fujitsu> Win32 is silly. Let's drop support :P 10:41:44 <peter1138> Bjarni: i didn't, i looked at the source 10:41:53 <peter1138> _pressed_key = QZ_MapKey(keycode) | unicode; 10:42:12 <Kjetil> lets concentrate on our support for qnx 10:43:22 <Bjarni> OSX use unicode for everything if the apps allow it, so it's a non-mac way not to support unicode ;) 10:47:49 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B812FC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ["It's like, wah."] 10:49:27 <Darkvater> http://darkvater.openttd.org/digicam/deskop1.jpg and http://darkvater.openttd.org/digicam/deskop2.jpg 10:49:38 <Darkvater> this also marks the joyous event of a new digital camera :D 10:50:05 <peter1138> desktop2.jpg 10:50:20 <peter1138> correct place for an html3.2 book 10:50:25 <Darkvater> ;p 10:50:28 <Tobin> The advent of a new digital camera, you mean. 10:50:37 * Tobin is angry at digital cameras 10:50:57 * Fujitsu wonders why. 10:51:05 <Darkvater> peter1138: I am too lazy to build a proper standard...been like this for over a year 10:51:09 <Darkvater> never use the book anymore ;p 10:51:15 <peter1138> well 10:51:34 <peter1138> mine is raised with a Procomm Plus for Windows box, and a "Guide to Webcasting" book 10:51:43 <Darkvater> :) 10:51:46 <Tobin> Fujitsu: Because of the state of cross platform video conferencing. 10:51:58 <Tobin> Fujitsu: So really I'm angry at webcams. 10:52:00 <Fujitsu> Hmm. 10:52:02 <Fujitsu> Terrific. 10:52:06 <Fujitsu> Ekiga forever! 10:53:58 <Bjarni> Darkvater: I knew it. All I can see is a computer to use for (in the pics unknown) purposes, you got ammo and pics of firearms, yet you deny that you could be a security threat 10:54:10 <orudge> Hmm 10:54:11 * orudge shall be travelling some 22,322 miles by plane this summer 10:54:15 <orudge> Seems like quite a large number to me 10:54:20 <Darkvater> orudge: donation summary? 10:54:31 * Darkvater keeps annoying orudge until he gets it :) 10:54:33 <orudge> Donation summary: I have an exam in 2 hours, and haven't had time to add it all up yet :p 10:54:35 <Darkvater> Bjarni: no comment 10:54:39 <Bjarni> :p 10:55:05 <orudge> My exams will be finished reasonably soon (a week on Wednesday), so I'll see if I can add it up after then, or if I have some free time within that period 10:55:28 <Fujitsu> Approximately? 10:55:35 <orudge> Approximately I'm not sure 10:55:41 <orudge> But it was over EUR100 a few months ago 10:55:48 <Fujitsu> OK. 10:56:00 <Fujitsu> What's it now? Millions? Billions? :P 10:56:04 <orudge> Hah, I wish :p 10:56:13 <orudge> Say, do you guys want to donate 80% of donations to the "Owen Travel Fund"? :p 10:56:27 <Darkvater> sounds attracting... but no 10:56:34 <orudge> Aw. 10:56:50 <Bjarni> why do you want to travel far away? 10:57:05 <orudge> Going to California and Brazil this summer :D 10:57:19 <orudge> and no doubt eating beans on toast for the rest of the summer 10:57:27 <Fujitsu> Hahahah 10:57:41 <Brianetta> DV either lives in the attic or under the stairs 10:57:42 <Bjarni> do you think women are cheaper in Asia or something? 10:57:47 <Brianetta> Either way, he's scarier than I thought 10:57:49 <orudge> In Asia? 10:57:51 * orudge is going not to Asia 10:57:59 <Bjarni> hmm 10:58:05 <Darkvater> nice going Bjarni 10:58:10 <Darkvater> Brianetta: am I? 10:58:10 <Sacro> come to Hull, they're cheap here :) 10:58:11 <Bjarni> travelling that far without reaching Asia.... 10:58:17 <orudge> Edinburgh -> Atlanta -> San Francisco, and back, and then London Gatwick -> Faro -> Lisbon -> Recife, then Recife -> Lisbon -> Frankfurt -> Heathrow 10:58:21 <Bjarni> I thought it was a trip around the world or something 10:58:34 <Bjarni> ahh 10:58:34 <Brianetta> Edinburgh++ 10:58:35 <Bjarni> close 10:58:38 <Fujitsu> Silly orudge missing out Australia... 10:58:44 <Bjarni> yeah 10:58:45 <orudge> Well, Australia can come another year 10:58:56 <Brianetta> The only city I know where there's a railway station where a city would normally have its river 10:58:56 <Bjarni> there is just one problem with Australia 10:59:03 <Bjarni> it's full of Australians 10:59:04 <Bjarni> :p 10:59:07 <orudge> Heh 10:59:08 * Bjarni hides 10:59:10 * Fujitsu murders Bjarni dead. 10:59:11 <Brianetta> My dad's Australian ): 10:59:12 <orudge> All them criminals 10:59:13 <orudge> See! 10:59:14 <orudge> See! 10:59:20 * orudge was right 10:59:27 * Fujitsu calls on Tobin, ThePizzaKing, etc. to all also attack Bjarni. 10:59:41 * Fujitsu all grabs TheKitchenSink. 10:59:42 <Bjarni> hey, I didn't say anything, I just quoted BBC 10:59:46 <orudge> I had a Fujitsu dot-matrix printer. 10:59:52 * Fujitsu is flattered. 10:59:54 * ThePizzaKing gnarls on Bjarni's leg 11:00:03 <Fujitsu> Gnaws, you mean? 11:00:12 <Tobin> I'm not slapping him, he's a Scandinavian. You can't tell where they've been. :) 11:00:15 <Sacro> Bjarni: ive heard jeramy clarkson say a smiliar quote about france 11:00:17 * Bjarni eats the king size pizza 11:00:18 <ThePizzaKing> yeah, whatever 11:00:19 <Bjarni> problem gone 11:00:24 * Fujitsu slays Bjarni further. 11:00:27 <ThePizzaKing> oh, well 11:00:34 * Fujitsu is deported to the Colony of Victoria. 11:00:44 <Bjarni> Sacro: I think it was some Jeremy guy, who said it 11:00:50 <Bjarni> maybe it's the same 11:00:57 <Fujitsu> Yay for TheKitchenSink, who introduced me to TTD. 11:01:06 <Brianetta> Back later and stuff 11:01:06 <Bjarni> o_O 11:01:08 *** Brianetta [n=brian@82-39-48-88.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit ["Tsch??"] 11:01:37 <Sacro> gah, parents 11:01:40 <Bjarni> how can Fujitsu look at a kitchen sink and realise that he wants to go to a certain webpage to download a game he never heard of? 11:01:55 <Fujitsu> Ha. Ha. 11:02:12 <Bjarni> Sacro: so you have to stop talking about your sexual abilities in here or ? 11:02:20 * Bjarni hides again 11:02:26 <Fujitsu> Hahahah. 11:02:36 * Fujitsu calls on everybody to attack Bjarni. 11:02:44 * Fujitsu pelts Bjarni with stones. 11:02:47 * orudge bounces 11:02:56 <Bjarni> Fujitsu: you missed the point 11:02:57 * Fujitsu pops orudge. 11:03:02 * orudge bounces 11:03:02 <Sacro> Bjarni: no im just wishing i had my own transport, and my mum would stop lying to me 11:03:12 <Fujitsu> Ahh. Parent.s 11:03:26 * Fujitsu sticks a pin in orudge, thus exploding him. 11:03:28 <Bjarni> Fujitsu: whenever a certain keyword is used, like parents, you got to say stuff like that 11:03:53 <Fujitsu> Noted, Bjarni. 11:04:03 * Fujitsu modifies his Python bot to do that. 11:04:08 <Bjarni> Sacro: ... my mum would stop lying to me <-- that explains how you got the way you are 11:04:26 <Bjarni> Freud would likely have a lot to say about that 11:05:49 <Sacro> Freud would have a field trip studying me 11:06:54 <Sacro> i really should find out why both my eyes dont focus on the screen at once 11:07:53 * orudge bounces 11:08:16 * Sacro pushes orudge over 11:08:53 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B812FC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 11:10:28 * orudge bounces 11:12:39 <Bjarni> <Sacro> i really should find out why both my eyes dont focus on the screen at once <-- lack of focus = drunk mom during pregnancy? 11:12:52 <Bjarni> or is it just that there is a girl nearby? 11:13:06 <Sacro> girl? 11:13:11 * Sacro looks around 11:13:12 <Bjarni> good point 11:14:32 <vondel> a curious mom? 11:17:47 <Sacro> no, a useless one 11:18:40 <ThePizzaKing> ah, so that's why we were attacking Bjarni 11:23:19 * orudge bounces 11:25:09 <Sacro> stop bouncing :) 11:27:56 * ledow glues orudge to the floor 11:28:04 * orudge bounces 11:29:18 *** Aankhen`` [n=pockled@203.101.11.160] has quit ["Look ma, no script!"] 11:31:00 * valhallazzzw curses 11:31:23 <valhallazzzw> how am I supposed to develop JS in firefox when it works one night and doesn't the next 11:31:29 <valhallazzzw> with exactly the same files? 11:31:30 <Sacro> hmm, openttd in ncurses 11:32:16 *** KUDr_wrk [n=KUDr@195.39.113.200] has joined #openttd 11:33:25 <tank_> Sacro: openttd by aalib rocks:) 11:33:31 <tank_> Sacro: but well.. you can't play:) 11:34:48 <Sacro> i tried it but never got it to work 11:35:23 <tank_> hm.. i accidently tried it, when i was logged on remote over ssh on another computer in the computer-room 11:35:43 <tank_> didn't recognize, that it was no local shell, just startet openttd and then it came in aalib ;) 11:39:23 <Sacro> lo 11:39:24 <Sacro> l 11:42:24 *** Mizipzor [n=mizipzor@c-528571d5.01-15-73746f6.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 11:44:38 <Zr40> tank_: try libcaca ;) 12:03:25 * orudge goes to exam ;< 12:04:07 *** _Red [n=Red@81-86-117-11.dsl.pipex.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:06:23 <Fujitsu> orudge: :( 12:06:42 <Fujitsu> Good luck. 12:11:15 *** _Red [n=Red@81-86-117-11.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #openttd 12:14:46 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@adsl-83-100-228-42.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- The future of IRC"] 12:20:51 *** hazelrah [n=me@softbank221017030002.bbtec.net] has joined #OpenTTD 12:22:15 *** Ihmemies [i=ihmemies@a81-197-121-141.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 12:22:17 *** Fujitsu [n=fujitsu@c211-28-183-112.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 12:29:47 <CIA-3> miham * r4873 /trunk/lang/ (7 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed) 12:29:47 <CIA-3> WebTranslator2 update to 2006-05-15 14:29:26 12:29:47 <CIA-3> afrikaans - 794 fixed by TrueTenacity (794) 12:29:47 <CIA-3> finnish - 12 fixed, 1 changed by lauri.kajan (13) 12:29:47 <CIA-3> french - 32 fixed by glx (32) 12:29:48 <CIA-3> italian - 3 fixed, 51 changed by sidew (54) 12:29:50 <CIA-3> portuguese - 4 fixed by izhirahider (4) 12:30:17 <MiHaMiX> slovenian - 3 fixed, 3 changed by christooss (6) 12:30:19 <MiHaMiX> ukrainian - 88 fixed, 1 changed by znikoz (89) 12:30:46 *** brygge_2 [n=joachim9@81.166.137.5] has joined #openttd 12:31:31 <Zr40> 794.... wow :) 12:32:15 <Zr40> MiHaMiX: why does the 'global statistics' page indicate 0% for afrikaans, even though that log message says 794 have been fixed? 12:32:24 <MiHaMiX> Total I18N progress: 92% (5253 bad strings out of 73052 strings) 12:32:32 <MiHaMiX> Zr40: let's refresh the globalstat 12:32:42 <Zr40> MiHaMiX: ah, it's correct now 12:32:46 <MiHaMiX> Zr40: at each svn commit WT2 revalidates the stats 12:32:58 <MiHaMiX> Zr40: when there are so many changes it took some time 12:32:58 <Zr40> refreshed just before you said so ;) 12:33:03 <Zr40> right 12:33:18 <MiHaMiX> btw 12:33:39 <MiHaMiX> frisian language will be deleted if noone volunteers to continue the translation 12:34:01 <Zr40> I don't see a frisian language at the stats page 12:34:02 <MiHaMiX> since only a few strings are translated, and no translator for 3 months and old translator vanished :-( 12:34:11 <MiHaMiX> yes, since I already marked that as internal 12:34:25 <Zr40> I know a frisian person, but he doesn't play openttd :( 12:34:33 <MiHaMiX> which means I don't calculate stats for that language 12:34:45 <Zr40> btw 12:34:47 <MiHaMiX> Zr40: could you please introduce her/him to OpenTTD 12:34:48 <MiHaMiX> ? :) 12:34:53 <Zr40> how's that debug langage coming along? :) 12:35:03 <Zr40> language* 12:35:12 <MiHaMiX> nothing serious, ask Darkvater for more info :) 12:35:23 * Zr40 pings Darkvater 12:35:58 *** ^Cartman^ [n=Eric_Car@ti100710a081-4716.bb.online.no] has joined #openttd 12:36:56 <peter1138> still some incorrect plurals :/ 12:38:20 <MiHaMiX> peter1138: which language? 12:38:29 *** glx [i=glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 12:38:48 <MiHaMiX> glx: [[14:30]] <CIA-3> french - 32 fixed by glx (32) 12:38:52 <peter1138> latvian, lithuanian, slovenian and ukrainian 12:39:02 <peter1138> it bombs out on the first mistake 12:39:14 <glx> MiHaMiX: :) 12:43:00 *** mikl [n=mikl@pdpc/supporter/active/mikl] has quit ["In the end, all that matters is your relation with God..."] 12:44:28 <glx> oh some ³ are wrong :( 12:44:42 *** TPK [n=thepizza@c211-28-155-182.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 12:46:55 <peter1138> MiHaMiX doesn't believe that ³ exists in latin-15 ;) 12:48:04 <MiHaMiX> glx: where are the ? 12:48:25 <MiHaMiX> glx: are they wrong even in the game? 12:48:28 <peter1138> STR_UNITS_VOLUME_SHORT_SI 12:48:32 <peter1138> & LONG 12:48:39 <MiHaMiX> ahh, the ^3 12:48:42 <peter1138> STR_UNITS_FORCE_IMPERIAL is right, however 12:48:43 <MiHaMiX> (cubic sign) 12:48:45 <glx> I'm compinling to check 12:49:05 <glx> 2 are copy/paste from english strings 12:49:12 <ledow> glx: Thanks for fixing the players console command for me... it works fine. 12:49:48 <MiHaMiX> glx: well, the ? thing is in the english, since I cannot validate that char as an iso8859-15 char 12:49:50 <glx> ledow: indeed it still have a bug (company value is a 64bit value 12:51:11 *** ThePizzaKing [n=thepizza@c211-28-155-182.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 12:51:29 *** TPK is now known as ThePizzaKing 12:52:00 <peter1138> ³ is in latin1 in the same place as latin15, too. hmm. 12:52:57 <glx> it's 0xB3 when I open langfile in hex mode 12:53:10 <peter1138> yeah 12:54:07 <MiHaMiX> hmm 12:54:36 <MiHaMiX> hmm 0x00b0, 0x00b1, 0x00b2, 0x00b3, 0x017d, 0x00b5, 0x00b6, 0x00b7, 12:54:39 <MiHaMiX> it's in. 12:54:43 <MiHaMiX> lemme check english 12:55:07 <glx> english is wrong :) 12:55:29 <MiHaMiX> no:) 12:55:42 <glx> in wt2 it is 12:55:51 <MiHaMiX> <³> <|3> <M-3> 179, Hex b3, Octal 263 12:56:06 <glx> or the reference string in wt2 is wrong 12:56:12 <MiHaMiX> ok, let me emulate my charset converter 12:56:23 <MiHaMiX> glx: the _displayed_ english string is wrong, imho 12:56:41 <glx> that's what I mean :) 12:56:56 *** Belugas_Gone is now known as Belugas 12:58:41 <MiHaMiX> hey Belugas :) 12:59:26 *** ThePizzaKing [n=thepizza@c211-28-155-182.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 13:00:16 <MiHaMiX> hmm.. quite strange 13:00:51 *** hazelrah [n=me@softbank221017030002.bbtec.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:01:26 <glx> heh yesterday 34 broken strings (I fixed 32) today 17 broken. What's happened? 13:01:39 <glx> new strings appeared in wt2? 13:01:42 <MiHaMiX> glx: did you used the 'copy' button to copy the string or typed manually? 13:01:48 <glx> copy button 13:01:53 <MiHaMiX> glx: hmmhmm 13:02:04 <glx> the one I typed manually is ok 13:02:30 <MiHaMiX> glx: no new strings, probably some wrong char caused some strings to be refused 13:02:41 <MiHaMiX> glx: check the manage -> broken strings 13:02:50 <MiHaMiX> glx: for the list and their reason 13:03:11 <glx> they're missing indeed 13:03:23 <MiHaMiX> hmm.. 13:04:57 <MiHaMiX> glx: 20 of your changes has been accepted by the system, but 12 of them are not recognised somehow. 13:05:03 *** dst_ [n=dennis@p213.54.84.32.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:05:06 <MiHaMiX> I must study the situation 13:05:12 *** dst_ [n=dennis@p213.54.83.229.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #openttd 13:06:13 *** Qrrbrbirlbel_ [n=Qrr@p54A7C9DD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 13:06:18 <glx> MiHaMiX: I didn't change the "new" missing strings (they weren't missing yesterday) 13:06:24 <MiHaMiX> glx: but your changes made their way into the langfile, so it's only WT2 who doesn't recognise them 13:07:25 <MiHaMiX> glx: aaaahh, okay, I found :) 13:07:47 <MiHaMiX> glx: these strings are already existed in english but they're not shown up in the stats 13:08:11 <glx> yeah the newly added strings :) 13:08:20 <MiHaMiX> I found a flaw in langchange detector.. when it adds strings to english language it should recalculate the stats for all languages 13:08:52 <MiHaMiX> since it fails to do i'll only recalculate them at next changes on that particulare language 13:08:59 <glx> oh and yesterday "goto page" didn't work but today it's ok 13:09:59 <MiHaMiX> glx: yes, the goto page is shared amongst languages (which is bad), I'll fix that, too ;) 13:10:19 <MiHaMiX> but let's focus on the biggest problem: flaw in langchange detector 13:18:31 *** Smoky555 [i=1rpqyest@sagitta.internal.vlink.ru] has joined #openttd 13:18:54 <MiHaMiX> TL|Away: ping 13:19:46 <Smoky555> Hi all :) 13:21:41 <Smoky555> is it possible to build more than 2 heliports in one city? 13:21:41 <Smoky555> i want to make something like aerotaxi service in the big city, but can build only 2 heliports :( 13:21:42 *** SBT-Xchat [n=Tibeius@211-74-179-201.adsl.dynamic.seed.net.tw] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 13:21:51 *** SBT-Xchat [n=Tibeius@211-74-179-201.adsl.dynamic.seed.net.tw] has joined #openttd 13:22:06 *** Mizipzor [n=mizipzor@c-528571d5.01-15-73746f6.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 13:23:11 *** Zahl [n=SENFGURK@dslb-082-083-254-161.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 13:25:36 <MiHaMiX> http://www.vertical-visions.com/_temp/postagepaid/index2.html :DD 13:33:03 <MiHaMiX> ok, flaw in langcheck should've been fixed 13:33:07 *** sw4y [n=sw4y@snat2.arachne.czfree.net] has joined #openttd 13:33:28 <brygge_2> mihamix: do you need another norwegian translator? 13:35:03 <MiHaMiX> brygge_2: yes, please email me at the address written on http://translator2.openttd.org/ 13:35:07 <MiHaMiX> bbl, work 13:38:25 <brygge_2> MiHaMix:ok 13:38:50 <Bjarni> bbl 13:38:52 *** Bjarni [n=Bjarni@0x50a41629.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit ["Leaving"] 13:44:00 *** Jango [n=Jango@mettab.demon.co.uk] has joined #openttd 13:46:50 *** hazelrah [n=me@softbank221017030002.bbtec.net] has joined #OpenTTD 13:48:03 *** angerman [n=angerman@e181111026.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 13:53:16 *** hazelrah [n=me@softbank221017030002.bbtec.net] has quit [] 13:53:45 <MiHaMiX> here 14:01:56 <orudge> \o/ 14:02:00 <orudge> My exam went quite well in the end 14:02:43 * valhallazzzw 's exams start in 3 days :( 14:06:07 <guru3> i'm in the middle of my exams :/ 14:06:09 <guru3> 7 more to go 14:06:25 <orudge> My next exam is on Thursday, then Friday, then the following Wednesday 14:06:38 <guru3> i have 5 more this week 14:06:43 <guru3> in psychology and chemistry 14:06:55 <guru3> then two more next week on tuesday 14:07:25 <guru3> fun fun fun... 14:07:26 *** Schamane_ [n=schamane@p5498C912.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:09:01 * MiHaMiX already checked his students :) 14:15:09 *** SchAmane [n=schamane@p5498FFC4.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:20:20 *** ZsoL [i=zsol@login09.caesar.elte.hu] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 14:21:39 * Jango doesn't do exams any more 14:22:07 *** ZsoL [i=zsol@login09.caesar.elte.hu] has joined #openttd 14:23:14 <MiHaMiX> ZsoL: hali :) 14:26:08 *** Schamane_ is now known as SchAmane 14:30:35 <Smoky555> nobody can't tell me about heliports ? sadly :( 14:30:40 *** Mizipzor [n=mizipzor@c-528571d5.01-15-73746f6.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 14:31:17 <Belugas> hem... Smoky555 : only two airports/heliports per town :( 14:31:18 <Belugas> Sorry 14:31:53 <peter1138> fix it? ;p 14:32:07 <Belugas> Not a fix, peter1138 : a new feature ! 14:32:35 <Belugas> IIRC, it is in town.flag12 14:32:45 <Smoky555> yes, peter1138 <8-) 14:33:08 <Belugas> or maybe it is where I wanted to make it accept more then 2... 14:33:13 <Belugas> Mmm... 14:33:21 * Belugas digs old patches 14:33:33 <Markavian> Eh! I'm using the UK renewal set, how come theres no train carriage for carrying wood? 14:34:00 <Markavian> As far as I can tell I have to refit one of the flatbed types and thats going to cost me an extra £22K 14:34:06 <Markavian> ... I don't have 22K to spend. this sucks. 14:38:00 <Vornicus> the uk renewal set is absurdly expensive 14:38:03 *** Scia [n=sciapode@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 14:38:41 <Markavian> well, I'm ok with the running costs 14:38:56 <ln-> chaleco salvavidas debajo de su asiento. 14:38:57 <Markavian> but I thought refit costs are over the top considering there isn't a 'basic' replacement 14:39:16 *** Serotonin_ [n=not@CPE-72-135-2-46.kc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 14:39:28 <glx> Darkvater: ping 14:39:36 <Kalpa> ln-: Nani nandatte? 14:41:29 *** brygge_2 [n=joachim9@81.166.137.5] has quit [] 14:42:28 *** Born_Acorn [n=bornacor@ACC91724.ipt.aol.com] has joined #openttd 14:42:31 <Smoky555> peter1138: if you fix it, could you put a patch for this to the "OpenTTD Development" on "tt-forums.net" ? i need to go home, my wife is calling ... 14:42:53 <Markavian> current profits per year : ~150K, train running costs ~70K 14:42:56 <peter1138> i didn't say i was going to :P 14:43:23 <peter1138> changing refit costs the ttdpatch way aren't supported yet 14:44:48 *** Smoky555 [i=1rpqyest@sagitta.internal.vlink.ru] has left #openttd [] 14:46:02 <Born_Acorn> peter1138! newsounds! 14:46:53 *** Andrew67 [n=andrew67@206.248.80.224] has joined #openttd 14:47:04 <Markavian> omg that sucked. 4K earnings from 280 tns of wood, total profit this year -4K 14:47:37 <Markavian> I'm gonna have to pick a bigger map with longer routes 14:48:26 <Prof_Frink> peter1138! completenewgrfsupport! 14:49:21 <Markavian> whats left to do / support? 14:50:34 *** Mizipzor [n=mizipzor@c-528571d5.01-15-73746f6.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 15:00:24 <XeryusTC> <Vornicus> the uk renewal set is absurdly expensive <- so you never tried the db set? 15:01:09 <Vornicus> No. 15:01:18 <Vornicus> But I know that I can't make a profit using ukrs 15:01:25 <hylje> 1) UKRS 15:01:27 <hylje> 2) ??? 15:01:30 <hylje> 3) Profit! 15:02:01 <XeryusTC> trains in the db set cost about 3-4x more then the trains in ukrs 15:02:18 <peter1138> profit is easy with ukrs 15:02:41 <XeryusTC> peter1138: it sure is 15:02:50 <Markavian> long distance? 15:02:52 <glx> yeah just use the correct engine 15:02:53 <XeryusTC> ukrs is nothing more then the default trains renamed, and some additions 15:03:14 <glx> no need to put a fast engine with slow wagons 15:03:25 <Markavian> I'm using brianetta's recommended combination 15:03:27 <Vornicus> um 15:03:29 <peter1138> assuming "redrawn" = "nothing more than renamed" 15:05:48 <XeryusTC> yes 15:05:52 <XeryusTC> :P 15:06:48 <Markavian> cool new station types 15:10:14 <XeryusTC> what was the last time that the yapf branch has been sinced to the trunk? 15:10:57 <glx> XeryusTC: after newstations 15:12:58 <peter1138> sinced? 15:13:15 <glx> synced :) I guess 15:13:22 <peter1138> oh, of course 15:13:56 <XeryusTC> glx guessed right :) 15:13:57 <Tobin> What's the amount of money a company has stored as? long (int whatever the base currency is)? 15:14:08 <Tobin> s/int/in/ 15:14:19 <glx> compny value is int64 15:15:58 <glx> money and loan are int32 15:17:32 *** Mukke [n=Mukke@x1-6-00-13-8f-3d-00-a9.k146.webspeed.dk] has quit [] 15:17:55 <Tobin> Ah, ok. 15:19:09 <glx> hmm indeed money is int64 too :) 15:19:42 <Tobin> Dang. 15:20:05 * Tobin edits a forum post again 15:20:06 <Tobin> :) 15:20:34 <glx> just check player.h :) 15:21:02 *** Mukke [n=Mukke@x1-6-00-13-8f-3d-00-a9.k146.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 15:21:38 <Tobin> Heh, I'm so tired that the source wouldn't help me much. :) 15:22:03 <glx> it's just a header, easy to read 15:22:22 <peter1138> like openttd.h ;) 15:22:39 *** Neonox [n=Neonox@ip-80-226-224-133.vodafone-net.de] has joined #openttd 15:24:11 <valhallazzzw> ..omg 15:24:38 *** zen-- [n=zen@213-168-11-254-dsl.est.estpak.ee] has joined #openttd 15:24:47 <Tobin> Night all. 15:25:02 <valhallazzzw> "US will get access to data retrieved by the European data retention" 15:25:05 <valhallazzzw> :| 15:25:20 *** Tobin [n=Tobin@c211-28-197-129.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [] 15:25:26 <glx> wtf? 15:25:41 <KUDr_wrk> XeryusTC: do you need new yapf sync? 15:26:01 <zen--> 047 gets desynced if 3 players connect at the same time 15:26:09 <XeryusTC> KUDr_wrk: not necesarilly, but it would be nice 15:26:22 <XeryusTC> im preparing to sync atm 15:26:24 <Kjetil> valhallazzzw: hush.. FBI is watching 15:26:34 <KUDr_wrk> XeryusTC: do you know that you can do it easily by yourself? 15:26:55 <XeryusTC> KUDr_wrk: yes, im doing that atm :) 15:26:59 <KUDr_wrk> ok 15:27:11 <Kjetil> valhallazzzw: where did you read that ? 15:27:23 <valhallazzzw> Kjetil: http://www.webwereld.nl/ref/newsletter/41149 15:27:26 <Kjetil> thanks 15:27:42 <valhallazzzw> http://euobserver.com/9/21580 15:27:47 <XeryusTC> i just needed the rev no 15:30:13 <glx> XeryusTC: http://svn.openttd.org/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/timeline 15:30:29 <XeryusTC> glx: i already found it, thanks anyways :) 15:33:23 <glx> XeryusTC: 4832 is not in 4833 sync though 15:35:14 *** Mizipzor [n=mizipzor@c-528571d5.01-15-73746f6.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 15:36:49 *** Markavian [n=Markavia@82.108.95.249] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:38:09 *** sw4y [n=sw4y@snat2.arachne.czfree.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 15:38:11 *** Mizipzor [n=mizipzor@c-528571d5.01-15-73746f6.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 15:50:42 *** Dr_Jekyll [i=dr_jekyl@pD9E97CCA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:50:55 <Dr_Jekyll> uuuhhh 15:51:01 <Dr_Jekyll> here are u ;) 15:51:05 <Dr_Jekyll> hi @all 15:52:43 <Dr_Jekyll> !recognize bots 15:52:57 <Dr_Jekyll> hm... 15:55:54 <Jango> response 15:57:40 * Prof_Frink is now known as Mr_Hyde 15:58:35 <Dr_Jekyll> ;) 15:58:44 *** Mizipzor [n=mizipzor@c-528571d5.01-15-73746f6.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 15:59:18 <Dr_Jekyll> somebody know a german forum about ottd? 15:59:27 <Jango> babelfish! 16:00:08 <Prof_Frink> There's a german TTD forum... TTDXHQ or something 16:00:08 * Dr_Jekyll kicks !babelfish to the trashcan 16:00:38 <Dr_Jekyll> it's straining me to read english for me 16:00:39 <Prof_Frink> They probably have an oTTD section 16:00:50 <Dr_Jekyll> nope, i know this site 16:02:59 <Dr_Jekyll> strike, found an option to limit the search just to the ottp section - this would make something easier 16:03:39 <Dr_Jekyll> but it's still english 16:05:00 *** Qrrbrbirlbel_ [n=Qrr@p54A7C9DD.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:16:15 <Born_Acorn> peter1138! newsounds! 16:16:31 <peter1138> lies 16:16:42 *** ector-- [n=meloditr@ygun.brg.sgsnet.se] has joined #openttd 16:16:58 <peter1138> it's quite nice ;p 16:17:27 *** znikoz [n=1@193.227.251.17] has joined #openttd 16:18:34 <Prof_Frink> peter1138! ${unimplementedttdpatchfeature}! 16:19:03 <Kjetil> peter1138! bugs! 16:20:04 <Vornicus> peter1138! have a beer! 16:21:46 <Jango> peter1138! cargopackets! 16:21:48 <Jango> :P 16:21:56 *** Jango [n=Jango@mettab.demon.co.uk] has quit ["Using KVIrc 3.0.1 'System Virtue'"] 16:23:15 *** jong [n=jong@flipflip.student.utwente.nl] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 16:23:44 *** RoySmeding_ [n=Roy@c514451cb.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 16:28:18 <peter1138> heh 16:28:23 <peter1138> newsounds is implemented 16:28:35 <Born_Acorn> tis? 16:28:37 <Born_Acorn> woo. 16:28:41 <peter1138> except for some events 16:28:43 <Born_Acorn> peter1138! 2CC! 16:28:50 <peter1138> so's that. hmm. 16:28:55 <peter1138> but you said it was slow :( 16:29:09 <Born_Acorn> What did I say was slow? 16:29:17 <peter1138> 2cc 16:29:20 <Born_Acorn> never. 16:29:26 <peter1138> i gave you a test build 16:29:34 <Born_Acorn> Yes, that was my computer. 16:29:42 <Born_Acorn> It did it with nightlies too. 16:29:48 <Born_Acorn> I found that out later. 16:29:48 <peter1138> oh 16:29:53 <Born_Acorn> I fixed it. 16:29:55 <Born_Acorn> and woo. 16:29:56 <peter1138> thanks for telling me :P 16:30:22 <Born_Acorn> No problem! I can tell you anytime. 16:30:26 <Born_Acorn> peter1138! Its not slow! 16:30:27 <Born_Acorn> see! 16:32:07 <Born_Acorn> You stopped working on it because you thought it was terribly and horribly flawed? 16:32:51 <peter1138> yes 16:32:53 <peter1138> it's your fault 16:33:04 <peter1138> you must feel the guilt 16:33:34 <Born_Acorn> I lost that, along with most feeling, in the war. 16:33:48 <peter1138> of '72? 16:34:04 <peter1138> i changed the gui though 16:34:09 <peter1138> it's got less brown now 16:34:12 <peter1138> i.e. none 16:35:52 <Born_Acorn> The war of 92. 16:37:28 <hylje> :< 16:38:17 *** RoySmeding_ [n=Roy@c514451cb.cable.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Client Quit] 16:42:30 <Born_Acorn> When T.H.E. forces had to withdraw from the hard to find and eastern country, Fictuitiousalia. 16:49:50 <peter1138> was it a LION? 16:49:57 *** |Jeroen| [n=jeroen@dD57729D4.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 16:53:15 <Born_Acorn> peter1138, were you serious when you said newsounds is implemented? 16:53:22 <peter1138> do-do! 16:53:24 <peter1138> whooooo! 16:53:31 <Born_Acorn> I just compiled the newest revision and nothing. 16:53:33 <Born_Acorn> No sounds. 16:53:36 <peter1138> yes 16:53:40 <peter1138> i haven't committed, lol@u 16:53:45 <Born_Acorn> (17:28:42) <peter1138> newsounds is implemented 16:53:47 <Born_Acorn> lies! 16:53:49 <peter1138> implemented! 16:53:51 <peter1138> in my patch! 16:53:52 <peter1138> muwahahah 16:53:59 <Born_Acorn> >:( 16:54:11 <peter1138> if i go home now, i might have it ready for the nightly 16:54:24 <peter1138> (but i doubt it) 16:54:44 <Born_Acorn> Go home now! 16:54:53 <Born_Acorn> Have it ready for the nightly! 16:54:54 <peter1138> oh, ok 16:54:56 <Born_Acorn> Don't doubt it! 16:56:18 * peter1138 > home (via shops ;p) 16:59:18 *** Mizipzor [n=mizipzor@c-528571d5.01-15-73746f6.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 17:01:53 *** Eddi|zuHause [i=johekr@p54B7741E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:02:47 <anboni> ok, i could use a little clarification here... 17:03:39 <anboni> i grabbed the UKRS newgrf and installed it in the nightly from 2 days ago.. Loaded a game that i started without UKRS, and i instantly had maglev available with 1 engine.. and this was in 1990 17:04:11 <anboni> then i started a new game, year 1950, and this didn't have maglev available at all, not even when i used the cheat to increase the date to 1990 again 17:04:34 <glx> it's better to start new game when you change grfs 17:04:40 <Born_Acorn> try pulling down the console and use "resetengines" 17:04:41 <anboni> anyone have an idea if i'm doing something wrong, and more importantly if i'll be getting screwed in the end? 17:06:57 <anboni> ok, resetengines in one of those savegames does have an effect.. i can still build maglev tracks, but there's no cars of engines available in 1950 17:09:11 <anboni> but now what i would really like is to have maglev available from 1950 :) i'm planning on building a huge network, but dont feel like starting with regular track and then having to upgrade to maglev later 17:10:15 <Mizipzor> anboni, cant you just start on a later date then? 17:11:02 <anboni> i could do that, but from what i understand, 2090 still is a pretty solid end of game 17:11:38 <Mizipzor> anboni, i think that must be easier to change than when the trains and stuff becomes avaliable... dont you think? 17:11:41 <anboni> but then, i could probably get around that by using the cheat to go back in time a few years each time i get near 2090 17:12:03 <XeryusTC> the finance window just screws up after 2090 17:12:19 <anboni> is that the only thing that goes foul? 17:12:42 <anboni> if so, that wouldn't really matter, since finance doesnt tend to be very interesting after the first few years anyway:) 17:13:26 <anboni> guess i'll be starting a game in 2015 or so then:) 17:14:17 <Mizipzor> i havent looked at a single line of code from this game... but it couldnt be all that hard to make a little if statement that set the time back 50 years when ever it gets to 2089 or something 17:14:31 <ledow> Isn't there a patch somewhere for 640bit dates or something stupid? 17:14:38 *** Angst [n=Angst@p54946272.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:14:38 <ledow> *64-bit 17:15:14 <ledow> http://bugs.openttd.org/task/143 17:15:26 <ledow> "play starting from the year 0 till about the year 4 million, you can only select 0..5000 as start/end year" 17:15:45 <Kjetil> hahaha 17:16:09 <ledow> 4million years should be enough to get a decent network going 17:16:13 <anboni> lol 17:16:35 <anboni> bummer though, that diff probably wont apply on current sources 17:16:40 <anboni> and looks like it's a bit much to do manually 17:16:42 *** brygge_2 [n=brygge_2@81.166.137.5] has joined #openttd 17:17:11 <ledow> give someone a nudge to include it... that's what I do... annoy people until I get my way. :-) 17:17:18 <anboni> hehe 17:17:21 *** Serotonin_ [n=not@CPE-72-135-2-46.kc.res.rr.com] has quit [Connection timed out] 17:18:15 <ledow> Blimey - an openttd game can last me all day as it is... I should never apply that patch, I'll never finish a single game. 17:18:31 <anboni> lol 17:18:54 <anboni> imagine a 2048x2048 map with the game running from 2000 to 4000 :) 17:19:01 *** Mizipzor [n=mizipzor@c-528571d5.01-15-73746f6.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 17:19:07 *** DaleStan [n=Dale@pool-71-98-89-81.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 17:23:57 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [i=johekr@p54B76952.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:27:20 *** brygge_2 [n=brygge_2@81.166.137.5] has left #openttd [] 17:28:32 *** TiberiusTeng [n=Tibeius@211-74-182-249.adsl.dynamic.seed.net.tw] has joined #openttd 17:28:43 *** Mizipzor [n=mizipzor@c-528571d5.01-15-73746f6.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 17:31:49 *** SBT-Xchat [n=Tibeius@211-74-179-201.adsl.dynamic.seed.net.tw] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:38:43 *** Scia [n=sciapode@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 17:47:05 <peter1138> pathfinders! 17:47:12 <peter1138> http://195.112.37.102/ottd/huh.png 17:47:12 <Mizipzor> woot_ 17:47:32 <peter1138> any idea why my buses take that route? :p 17:47:38 <hylje> no 17:47:45 <hylje> regarding that 17:47:48 <Born_Acorn> peter1138! newsounds! 17:47:53 <Mizipzor> maybe you accidently bought sightseeing buses? 17:47:57 <peter1138> lol 17:48:09 <hylje> could selected vehicles show their to-be-path 17:48:19 <hylje> or at least the first 5-10 tiles 17:49:53 <Ihmemies> would be too easy 17:50:01 <glx> peter1138: destroy the bridge :) 17:50:04 <peter1138> it works fine with npf, of course 17:50:24 <peter1138> but it's my pretty bridge ;) 17:50:46 <Ihmemies> who makes any other bridges trhan the fastest ones? 17:51:30 *** DaleStan [n=Dale@pool-71-98-89-81.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 17:52:08 *** fusee [i=fusion@220.142.171.66.subscriber.vzavenue.net] has joined #openttd 17:53:10 *** bringa_ [i=bringa@ubermutant.net] has joined #openttd 17:53:47 <bringa_> Hi :) I've been looking around the wiki but couldn't find an answer to this: how easy or hard would it be to mess around with vehicle data, i.e. when they come out, speed, hp, price... 17:53:59 <bringa_> this wouldn't be for anything useful, just for my own amusement ;P 17:54:01 <peter1138> look for newgrf 17:54:05 * bringa_ nods 17:54:12 <bringa_> That's the idea I got in the wiki too 17:54:19 <bringa_> so I guess it's confusingly named ;P 17:54:23 <bringa_> bit more than just graphics 17:54:27 <bringa_> cool, thanks :) 17:54:30 <peter1138> it's a file format 17:54:38 <peter1138> http://wiki.ttdpatch.net/tiki-index.php?page=NewGraphicsSpecs 17:54:46 <peter1138> Action0 is what you want 17:55:03 <peter1138> (alternatively, you can muck about with the table source files 17:55:04 <peter1138> ) 17:56:36 <bringa_> ah 17:56:38 *** Zahl22 [n=SENFGURK@dslb-082-083-162-232.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 17:56:38 <bringa_> on the ttdpatch wiki 17:56:44 <bringa_> that's why I didn't find it on the openttd wiki ;P 17:57:44 <peter1138> indeed :) 17:58:23 <bringa_> should I put a link to that page on the ttdpatch wiki into http://wiki.openttd.org/index.php/Newgrf ? 17:58:35 <bringa_> maybe someone else with the same question as me will be looking at that same place 18:02:12 <peter1138> if you want 18:02:48 <Born_Acorn> peter1138! newsounds! 18:06:00 *** Zahl [n=SENFGURK@dslb-082-083-254-161.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:08:26 *** fusey [i=fusion@220.142.171.66.subscriber.vzavenue.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:08:26 *** fusee is now known as fusey 18:13:14 *** RoySmeding_ [n=Roy@c514451cb.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 18:17:29 *** angerman_ [n=angerman@e181073147.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 18:18:04 *** DJ_Mirage [n=martijn@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 18:21:28 *** brygge_2 [n=brygge_2@81.166.137.5] has joined #openttd 18:22:06 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@83.100.251.49] has joined #openttd 18:27:28 *** Markavian [n=Markavia@82.108.95.249] has joined #OpenTTD 18:27:43 <Sacro> evening all 18:27:46 <Markavian> evening 18:28:13 <Markavian> I'm back to 'testing' UKRS 18:29:46 *** Mizipzor [n=mizipzor@c-528571d5.01-15-73746f6.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 18:30:38 <peter1138> i do a lot of 'testing' 18:30:47 * Markavian comes up with an evil plan to generate cool a map using mini-IN's TerraGenessi patch and load using the latest nightly build + UKRS. 18:32:02 <brygge_2> peter1138: do you have any plans on support for 2company colers? 18:32:21 <brygge_2> colors* 18:32:24 *** Mizipzor [n=mizipzor@c-528571d5.01-15-73746f6.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 18:33:20 *** angerman [n=angerman@e181111026.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:33:21 <peter1138> woohoo, deltic 18:34:27 <peter1138> an M-C DMU 18:34:31 <peter1138> +d 18:34:36 <peter1138> brygge_2: yeah, it's all written 18:34:49 *** _RoySmeding [n=Roy@c514451cb.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 18:34:50 *** |Jurgen| [n=jurgen@d51A43FD0.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 18:34:53 *** _RoySmeding [n=Roy@c514451cb.cable.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Client Quit] 18:35:14 <brygge_2> peter1138: cool. when do you plan to merge it into the trunk? 18:35:32 <peter1138> when i've fixed the issue with tenders 18:35:44 *** _RoySmeding [n=Roy@c514451cb.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 18:35:52 *** Mizipzor [n=mizipzor@c-528571d5.01-15-73746f6.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 18:36:44 <brygge_2> peter1138: cool 18:37:23 *** Mizipzor [n=mizipzor@c-528571d5.01-15-73746f6.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 18:39:23 <Markavian> How about the terrain generator? 18:40:11 *** Brianetta [n=brian@82-39-48-88.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 18:40:19 <brygge_2> markavian: RichK is planning to get it included in version 5.0 18:40:25 *** _RoySmeding [n=Roy@c514451cb.cable.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Client Quit] 18:40:30 <Markavian> whens version 5.0 planned? 18:40:38 <XeryusTC> when it's done 18:40:51 <Mizipzor> wheres the site to these irc quotes? 18:40:51 <XeryusTC> and tgp is going to be included when richk returns 18:40:58 <Mizipzor> bash.org has stopped updating 18:41:01 <XeryusTC> www.bash.org 18:41:10 <XeryusTC> www.qdb.com iirc 18:41:17 <Mizipzor> XeryusTC, thanks 18:41:23 <XeryusTC> np 18:41:50 <Mizipzor> hmm... nope... not that one :P 18:41:58 <Mizipzor> check the site youself ;) haha 18:42:48 <Markavian> qdb.com dodgey link/site 18:43:31 <Markavian> nope, my evil planned failed 18:43:37 <Markavian> 'Uknown tag ...' 18:43:47 <Mizipzor> Markavian, you know the adress to it? 18:44:03 <Markavian> to what? www.bash.org ? 18:44:22 <brygge_2> markavian: i knew that you would fail..... i have tryed it before.. 18:44:29 <Markavian> : ( 18:44:44 <brygge_2> to bad it won't work 18:44:58 <Mizipzor> Markavian, i used to think bash.org was cool... but its said theyve stopped updating... 18:44:58 <Markavian> any way to generate cool maps outside of OpenTTD and load in? 18:45:01 <peter1138> 5.0 != 0.5 18:45:54 <Markavian> brygge mislead me 18:45:56 <Brianetta> It's two and a half times the reciprocal 18:46:04 <Brianetta> and that's a commutative statement 18:46:16 <Brianetta> I think 18:46:19 <peter1138> hmm 18:46:27 * peter1138 turns on sounds to hear the deltic 18:46:40 <Brianetta> Is that in the nightly? 18:46:46 <Brianetta> Does it rumble? (: 18:47:44 <Markavian> its sad, now that I've seen PBS, TerraGenesis and UKRS ... I want them all together at the same time ::sobs:: 18:48:03 <Markavian> meanwhile I spend every other waiting moment musing over how brilliant Spore is going to be 18:50:19 <Markavian> memtest86 time 18:50:19 <Markavian> cya 18:50:22 *** Markavian [n=Markavia@82.108.95.249] has quit ["testing the memory"] 18:53:31 *** znikoz [n=1@193.227.251.17] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:59:06 *** Neonox [n=Neonox@ip-80-226-224-133.vodafone-net.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:02:01 <Born_Acorn> peter1138! newsounds! 19:04:42 *** RoySmeding_ [n=Roy@c514451cb.cable.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Client Quit] 19:13:04 <Sacro> nah, Defcon is sooo much better than Spore 19:14:42 *** black_Nightmare [n=Husky_dr@modemcable065.248-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #openttd 19:15:39 *** zen-- [n=zen@213-168-11-254-dsl.est.estpak.ee] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:18:49 *** brygge_2 [n=brygge_2@81.166.137.5] has left #openttd [] 19:28:33 <peter1138> KUDr_wrk: you know pathfinders, yes? 19:31:12 *** DJ_Mirage [n=martijn@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has quit ["Probably doing something else"] 19:32:08 <valhallazzzw> defcon! 19:42:59 *** sw4y [n=sw4y@snat2.arachne.czfree.net] has joined #openttd 19:43:34 *** Neonox [n=Neonox@ip-80-226-222-99.vodafone-net.de] has joined #openttd 19:52:23 <KUDr> peter1138: little bit 19:57:43 <Born_Acorn> peter1138! newsounds! 19:58:06 <peter1138> hurr 19:58:11 *** MeusH[bbl] [n=MeusH@host-ip18-138.crowley.pl] has joined #openttd 19:58:37 *** MeusH[bbl] is now known as MeusH 19:58:45 <MeusH> hi 19:58:52 <KUDr> peter1138: what can I do for you? 20:00:50 <Born_Acorn> He wants you to tell him to commit newsounds! 20:01:51 <glx> KUDr: maybe about this http://195.112.37.102/ottd/huh.png (peter1138 don't understand some pathfinding) 20:02:17 <peter1138> and huh2 20:02:20 *** Scia [n=sciapode@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:02:21 *** tokai|noir [n=tokai@p54B812FC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 20:02:26 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B812FC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:02:41 <KUDr> glx: well - i can analyse it when i will be able to repro it 20:02:48 <KUDr> like savegame 20:03:02 <KUDr> or case description mabbe 20:03:06 <glx> KUDr: it's a peter1138 question 20:06:27 <KUDr> glx: did you also experience something similar 20:06:29 <KUDr> ? 20:06:49 <glx> I don't use bus very often 20:11:42 *** tokai|noir [n=tokai@p54B812FC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:11:45 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B812FC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 20:12:16 *** angerman_ [n=angerman@e181073147.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [] 20:17:47 <Sacro> anyone here any good with mod_rewrite? 20:17:59 <SpComb> possibly 20:18:05 <Sacro> SpComb: pm ? 20:18:12 <SpComb> no 20:18:17 <SpComb> other possibility is #apache 20:18:17 <Sacro> d'oh 20:18:20 * SpComb hates pms 20:18:21 <hylje> what do you need 20:19:01 <Sacro> help with mod_rewrite 20:19:36 <Sacro> hylje: pm? 20:20:18 <SpComb> would anyone mind if you discussed it here.. 20:20:27 <hylje> state your question 20:20:27 *** ledow [n=ledow@jaimejwalker.plus.com] has left #openttd [] 20:20:29 *** ledow [n=ledow@jaimejwalker.plus.com] has joined #openttd 20:20:38 <Sacro> well pastebin is reeeeeeeeeeeeealy slow 20:20:45 * Sacro goes for it 20:20:50 <Sacro> my .htaccess contains 20:20:50 <Sacro> RewriteEngine on 20:20:50 <Sacro> RewriteBase /public_html/hosting/ben_woodward/ 20:20:50 <Sacro> RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} -d 20:20:50 <Sacro> RewriteRule ^(.+[^/]+)$ / [R] 20:20:51 <Sacro> RewriteRule .*/railsfun/(.*) http://www.benwoodward.me.uk/AjaxDemo/public/ [L,R] 20:20:52 <Sacro> #Else Slash Detected 20:20:54 <Sacro> RewriteRule (.*) http://www.benwoodward.me.uk/AjaxDemo/public/ [L,R] 20:21:04 <glx> Sacro: be careful :) 20:21:15 <Sacro> gtg, never mind 20:21:17 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@83.100.251.49] has quit [" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- The future of IRC"] 20:25:39 *** stillunknown [n=unknown@82-168-179-194.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:25:50 <peter1138> svn down? 20:26:02 <MiHaMiX> hmm 20:26:37 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B812FC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ["It's like, wah."] 20:26:44 <MiHaMiX> no, it's up 20:27:30 <peter1138> dns broken then 20:27:31 *** Trippledence__ [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:27:31 <peter1138> o_O 20:27:34 *** Trippledence__ [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 20:27:37 <MiHaMiX> hmm 20:27:44 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B812FC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 20:27:52 <MiHaMiX> svn.openttd.org A 81.171.98.110 20:28:01 <SpComb> ja? 20:28:08 <MiHaMiX> SpComb: ? 20:28:16 <SpComb> Name: svn.openttd.org 20:28:16 <SpComb> Address: 81.171.98.110 20:28:20 <peter1138> working now 20:28:28 <MiHaMiX> ok 20:32:59 *** Bjarni [n=Bjarni@0x50a4160f.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 20:33:01 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 20:34:01 <MeusH> hi Bjarni 20:34:34 <glx> wb Bjarni 20:35:33 *** black_Nightmare [n=Husky_dr@modemcable065.248-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has left #openttd ["bye"] 20:37:17 <Bjarni> :) 20:37:27 <Bjarni> so is my presence needed? 20:37:45 <Bjarni> did you survive my absence? 20:37:55 * MeusH looks at himself 20:37:57 <MeusH> yeah I did 20:38:01 <MeusH> :P 20:38:06 <Bjarni> if somebody says no and no, then I returned too late 20:38:16 *** sw4y [n=sw4y@snat2.arachne.czfree.net] has quit ["Odletam do paralelniho vesmiru..."] 20:40:18 <Bjarni> hmm 20:40:30 <Bjarni> is this the official idle channel night or something? 20:40:58 <SpComb> nope 20:41:00 <hylje> yes 20:41:00 <hylje> ! 20:41:01 <SpComb> that's #idlerpg 20:41:37 <hylje> im lvl 77 in idlerpg 20:41:47 <Bjarni> [22:40] <Bjarni> is this the official idle channel night or something? 20:41:48 <Bjarni> [22:40] <SpComb> nope 20:41:48 <Bjarni> [22:40] <hylje> yes 20:42:06 *** |Jurgen| [n=jurgen@d51A43FD0.access.telenet.be] has quit ["Leaving"] 20:42:16 <Bjarni> now that makes you wonder why SpComb feels that nobody wants to talk to him 20:42:29 <Bjarni> actually it explains it 20:42:38 <SpComb> hylje: I have about 40 days worth of 'Day changed to xx xxxx' in what used to be my idlerpg window 20:43:05 <SpComb> hmm? 20:43:15 <hylje> im still lvl 77 in idlerpg. 20:43:47 <SpComb> I'm *far* mode idle in my idlerpg than you are 20:43:58 <hylje> my idle is more idle than your idle 20:44:11 <SpComb> I'm so idle I haven't even logged in 20:44:20 <SpComb> I'm so idle I never even joined the channel 20:44:48 <Jpl_> I'm so idle I haven't ever said anything even IRL 20:44:57 <SpComb> who cares about irl... 20:45:08 <Bjarni> ok, just read the rules for #idlerpg 20:45:08 <Prof_Frink> I'm so idle, I can't be bothered to idle. 20:45:11 <SpComb> hmm, you are quite idle here, I must say 20:45:19 <hylje> you fail at idling 20:45:22 <Bjarni> that's the stupidest idea ever 20:45:32 <Bjarni> it's a waste of resources 20:45:38 <SpComb> not really 20:45:41 <SpComb> It's wonderful 20:45:46 <SpComb> the most exciting game ever 20:45:47 <Bjarni> both when it comes to hardware and power conservation 20:45:47 <MeusH> idleness 20:45:54 <MeusH> the fellowship of the idleship 20:45:55 <hylje> idlerpg is an anti-game 20:46:21 <hylje> you aim at doing nothing at all 20:46:26 <Bjarni> how many tons of coal is used on computers, that are turned on all the time in order not to lose points? 20:46:28 <hylje> and be better in it than others 20:47:05 <Prof_Frink> Bjarni: how much money does the train company make transporting that coal? 20:47:12 <Bjarni> ... 20:47:30 <Bjarni> it's actually pretty expensive to produce electricity 20:47:48 <MeusH> Bjarni: I'd say three wagons 20:47:57 <MeusH> anyway, it's sick 20:48:00 <MeusH> and you're right 20:48:00 <Bjarni> using a hair dryer 10 minutes a day, 6 days a week will use 15 tons of coal each year 20:48:03 <MeusH> that's a damn pollution 20:48:11 <hylje> im idlerpgin on a old laptop 20:48:21 <Bjarni> err 20:48:24 <Bjarni> kg, not ton :p 20:48:26 <SpComb> Bjarni: that's why you should shoever once every two weeks! Save energy! 20:48:30 <MeusH> lol Bjarni, I use a hair dryer once per two months :D 20:48:35 <Prof_Frink> Now, if they were doing something useful, like downloading .torrents, that's a different story 20:48:41 *** DaleStan [n=Dale@pool-71-98-89-81.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 20:48:43 *** DaleStan_ [n=Dale@pool-71-98-89-81.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 20:48:46 <SpComb> perhaps they do both at the same time? 20:48:47 *** DaleStan_ is now known as DaleStan 20:48:54 <hylje> we require more vespene gas 20:48:54 <Prof_Frink> Nah 20:49:06 <Prof_Frink> computers can't do two things at once 20:49:09 <Prof_Frink> that would just be silly 20:49:31 <Bjarni> <MeusH> lol Bjarni, I use a hair dryer once per two months :D <-- I don't even have one. I just let the hair dry naturally 20:49:39 <MeusH> hmm some would say their computer can both play mp3 and download stuff 20:50:00 <Prof_Frink> nonsense! 20:50:14 <Prof_Frink> I have one computer for each app I want to run! 20:50:15 <MeusH> Bjarni: I usually use a towel to dry it, or I put a towel on a cushion when I don't want to dry them, I just go sleep 20:50:16 <hylje> i irc and browse 4chan at the same time 20:50:22 <hylje> do i win ? 20:50:43 *** Trippledence__ [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:50:47 * SpComb hates wet hair 20:50:59 *** Trippledence__ [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 20:51:03 <MeusH> how nice it is to have a short hair 20:51:34 <hylje> .. or no hair at all? 20:51:42 <MeusH> that's too... 20:51:45 <MeusH> umm... bald 20:51:46 <Prof_Frink> You bald, bald man. 20:51:52 <hylje> actually 20:51:53 <MeusH> :P 20:52:06 <MeusH> gah, history exam tommorow. In 8 hours 20:52:11 <MeusH> sleep time for me 20:52:14 <MeusH> cya everybody 20:52:24 *** MeusH [n=MeusH@host-ip18-138.crowley.pl] has quit ["Goodbye"] 20:54:16 *** Trippledence__ [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit [Client Quit] 20:54:46 <XeryusTC> i hate digging through mountains when you don't earn enough money :( 20:55:40 *** |Jeroen| [n=jeroen@dD57729D4.access.telenet.be] has quit ["Whoopsy"] 20:56:35 <Bjarni> I wonder if this calculation is valid. A computer using 100 W, that is never turned off would need 421 kg coal/year 20:56:48 <Bjarni> sounds like a bit much 20:57:40 <Bjarni> so if it runs for 5 years and is scrapped due to being old, it will use 2 tons of coal 20:57:47 <XeryusTC> well, about 40% of the energy generated by burning the coal is used to produce electricity (IIRC) 20:57:54 <Bjarni> yeah 20:58:04 <Bjarni> well, that depends on the powerplant 20:58:14 <Bjarni> 40% is for western Europe 20:58:26 *** DaleStan [n=Dale@pool-71-98-89-81.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 20:58:27 <Bjarni> it's less in Eastern Europe 20:58:28 *** DaleStan_ [n=Dale@pool-71-98-89-81.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 20:58:32 *** DaleStan_ is now known as DaleStan 20:58:44 <XeryusTC> give those powerplants a big kick then 20:58:55 *** ^Cartman^ [n=Eric_Car@ti100710a081-4716.bb.online.no] has quit ["Bunchie!"] 20:59:23 <Bjarni> some of them still use those stoker devices to add coal to the fire 21:00:03 <Bjarni> hopefully they are more advanced than when the first stoker device was used (1% efficiency) 21:00:10 <XeryusTC> i have no idea how a power plant works :P 21:01:41 <Bjarni> basically you generate heat to heat a boiler to make steam. You then move the steam through a turbine to make it rotate and you cool the steam back into water to add it to the boiler 21:01:43 <XeryusTC> this is weird, according to the finances window i have been losing money the last 15+ years, but i'm not actually loosing money 21:01:44 <Bjarni> that's it 21:01:59 <XeryusTC> Bjarni: i know that part, but not all the other details 21:02:09 <Bjarni> well, you also use the rotational movement in a generator to produce the electricity 21:02:49 <Bjarni> think of the stoker device as a mechanical fireman, who used a shovel to add big blocks of coal at once 21:03:41 <Bjarni> efficient powerplants burn coal dust, that they can pump into the fire box using compressed air. They also use the compressed air to ensure that the coal got enough oxygen to burn efficiently 21:04:58 <Bjarni> got it? 21:05:08 <XeryusTC> yes (: 21:05:31 <qball> hmmm I wonder 21:05:35 <qball> 100Wh 21:05:58 <Bjarni> that's pretty damn close to 0,1 kWh 21:06:00 <Bjarni> ;) 21:06:14 <XeryusTC> hehe 21:06:18 <qball> 100Wh*24*365 = 912,5 kw/y 21:06:30 <XeryusTC> actually, what you're doing is wrong Bjarni 21:06:38 <XeryusTC> it should be 0,100 kWh :P 21:08:04 <qball> 1 kWh 21:08:04 <qball> 21:08:05 <Bjarni> qball: I get it to 0,1*24*365=876 21:08:05 <qball> 0.123 kg coal equivalent 21:08:32 <qball> hmm true 21:08:34 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 21:08:51 <XeryusTC> i get 0,1*24*7*52=873.6 21:08:52 <qball> 107kg/y 21:10:08 *** Belugas is now known as Belugas_Gone 21:10:28 <Belugas_Gone> good night 21:10:38 <XeryusTC> hmm, reminds me, i have a chemics test tomorrow 21:10:41 <XeryusTC> night Belugas_Gone 21:12:16 <Bjarni> "The Australian Burning Mountain was originally believed to be a volcano, but the smoke and ash comes from a coal fire which may have been burning for 5,000 years" <-- never knew that before, but somehow I'm not surprised 21:13:20 <CIA-3> miham * r4874 /trunk/lang/ (7 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed) 21:13:20 <CIA-3> WebTranslator2 update to 2006-05-15 23:12:59 21:13:20 <CIA-3> croatian - 1 fixed by knovak (1) 21:13:20 <CIA-3> finnish - 1 fixed, 69 changed by lauri.kajan (70) 21:13:20 <CIA-3> french - 15 fixed, 4 changed by glx (19) 21:13:21 <CIA-3> norwegian - 7 fixed by brygge_2 (7) 21:13:23 <CIA-3> slovenian - 18 fixed by Sonicelo (18) 21:13:27 * XeryusTC throws some water on that fire (; 21:14:12 <MiHaMiX> swedish - 16 fixed by ChrillDeVille (16) 21:14:12 <MiHaMiX> ukrainian - 70 fixed, 5 changed by znikoz (75) 21:14:59 <MiHaMiX> finnish translator will be kicked in the ass. 21:16:41 <peter1138> oh? 21:16:49 <MiHaMiX> {STRING} -> {STRING1} 21:16:53 <peter1138> "oops" 21:17:08 <peter1138> shouldn't WT2 not allow them? 21:17:42 *** Neonox [n=Neonox@ip-80-226-222-99.vodafone-net.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:18:05 <glx> svn takes time to answer 21:18:17 *** Mizipzor [n=mizipzor@c-528571d5.01-15-73746f6.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 21:18:58 <glx> indeed my fault (wrong dir) 21:23:45 *** Born_Acorn [n=bornacor@ACC91724.ipt.aol.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:23:55 *** orudge [n=orudge@res05-ocr2.res.st-and.ac.uk] has quit [Connection timed out] 21:24:44 <peter1138> heh 21:24:47 *** Trippledence_ [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 21:25:15 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:25:23 *** Jenkz [n=nobody@80-192-44-21.cable.ubr05.dund.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:26:29 <peter1138> well, it's slow for me 21:28:31 <MiHaMiX> Global I18N status: 92% (5141 bad strings out of 73052 strings) 21:29:14 <peter1138> sleepy time 21:29:15 <peter1138> night night 21:29:19 <MiHaMiX> gn 21:32:17 <MiHaMiX> gn too... 21:38:32 *** Angst [n=Angst@p54946272.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["n8"] 21:43:15 *** SchAmane [n=schamane@p5498C912.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 21:47:35 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@83.100.183.57] has joined #openttd 21:54:08 <Sacro> evening people 21:54:20 <Sacro> right, anyone still around who knows about mod_rewrite 21:54:34 <valhallazzzw> nah 21:54:44 <Sacro> hmm 21:56:38 <XeryusTC> Sacro: a tiny bit 21:57:05 <Sacro> XeryusTC: can i PM you? 21:57:12 <XeryusTC> sure 21:57:29 <XeryusTC> bit i probably cant help if it is too complicated 21:58:37 <Sacro> lol, well any help is better than none 22:02:53 <Bjarni> wtf is mod_rewrite? 22:03:39 <Sacro> Bjarni: apache module for rewriting incoming URLS 22:03:56 <Bjarni> ahh 22:04:10 <Bjarni> don't look at me for that one 22:04:28 <XeryusTC> mod_rewrite can be quite usefull at some times 22:04:39 <Bjarni> most likely 22:04:45 <hylje> in practice its used to "clean up" urls 22:04:45 <Bjarni> I just don't know it 22:05:24 <Sacro> i cant get my head around it 22:05:36 <hylje> like domain.tld/foo.php?bar=42 -> domain.tld/foo/bar/42 22:05:39 <XeryusTC> i use it to clean up, and to redirect sertain urls to ther sites without using php 22:05:52 *** warer [n=warer@185.80-202-30.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 22:05:52 *** SBT-Xchat [n=Tibeius@211-74-182-249.adsl.dynamic.seed.net.tw] has joined #openttd 22:06:07 <Sacro> im trying to setup a ruby on rails application, but I dont have use of the public_html/* folder 22:06:20 *** warer [n=warer@185.80-202-30.nextgentel.com] has left #openttd [] 22:10:12 <XeryusTC> omfg no, my radio is producing static while my favorite show is on :( 22:10:57 <Bjarni> goodnight 22:11:10 *** Bjarni [n=Bjarni@0x50a4160f.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit [Client Quit] 22:12:49 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 22:12:55 *** tokai|noir [n=tokai@p54B82138.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 22:16:06 *** SchAmane [n=schamane@p5498C912.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 22:16:23 *** Abibioboi [n=arrakis@5354EC24.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 22:16:34 <Abibioboi> interesting 22:16:51 <Sacro> what is? 22:17:04 <Abibioboi> xchat 22:17:10 <hylje> k 22:18:09 <Abibioboi> anyone has an idea why vmware has such ugly widgets after a restart? 22:18:22 <Abibioboi> it's like it's using motif or something instead of the gtk+ it had before the install 22:19:47 *** Trippledence__ [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 22:19:54 *** tokai|3 [n=tokai@p54B82138.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 22:20:24 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:20:34 *** XeryusTC is now known as Xeryus|sleep 22:23:11 *** TiberiusTeng [n=Tibeius@211-74-182-249.adsl.dynamic.seed.net.tw] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:23:32 <Abibioboi> sorry peter1138 this linux reinstall got me a bit busy to do any real work today 22:23:33 *** jong [n=jong@flipflip.student.utwente.nl] has joined #openttd 22:25:09 <glx> Abibioboi: OTTD_PRINTF64 (debug.h) is your work right? 22:25:26 <Abibioboi> hmm the %lll and % other one? 22:25:41 <glx> yes 22:25:48 <glx> it's wrong for mingw 22:26:23 <Abibioboi> ah so mingw is trying to be smart :s 22:26:30 <glx> should be the same as msvc because same runtime 22:26:57 <glx> the problem is indeed in msvrct.dll :) 22:27:53 <Abibioboi> ah... :) 22:27:57 <Abibioboi> can you add it to the ifdef? 22:28:17 <glx> http://glx.dnsalias.net:8080/openttd/printf64.diff <-- like this ? 22:28:51 <Abibioboi> well if that works, yes :) 22:29:06 <glx> ok I'll do it :) 22:30:13 *** Trippledence_ [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:30:34 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B812FC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:30:45 *** tokai|ni [n=tokai@p54B812FC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Connection timed out] 22:31:01 <SchAmane> Abibioboi, do you have updated vmware or gtk+ ? it falls back to gtk+ 2.4.0 and to default theme 22:31:21 <Abibioboi> I am finding out which gtk I have and what I am missing ;p 22:32:13 <SchAmane> if you find out how to make vmware use installed gtk+, please let me know 22:32:30 <CIA-3> glx * r4875 /trunk/debug.h: - Fix: %ll don't work with mingw (msvrct.dll problem) 22:33:08 <Abibioboi> SchAmane: you're of a big help.... 22:33:08 <Abibioboi> :) 22:33:19 <SchAmane> =] 22:33:22 <Abibioboi> let Darkvater do all the work...sure 22:33:23 <Abibioboi> bah 22:34:01 <SchAmane> Abibioboi, i think you would need compile libsexy 22:34:07 <SchAmane> and something else also 22:34:17 <Abibioboi> I have libsexy 22:34:29 <hylje> All Your Dependency Are Belong To Us 22:34:39 <SchAmane> there is one another lib for extended widjets 22:34:48 <SchAmane> hylje, :o) 22:35:31 <Abibioboi> goddamn 22:35:41 <Abibioboi> fuckin' vmware..just tell me what lib you're missing 22:36:04 <Abibioboi> tfarago@arrakis:/usr/bin> ldd /usr/lib/vmware/bin/vmware | grep found 22:36:04 <Abibioboi> libexpat.so.0 => not found 22:36:04 <Abibioboi> libsigc-2.0.so.0 => not found 22:36:04 <Abibioboi> libglibmm-2.4.so.1 => not found 22:36:04 <Abibioboi> libglibmm_generate_extra_defs-2.4.so.1 => not found 22:36:04 <Abibioboi> libatkmm-1.6.so.1 => not found 22:36:06 <Abibioboi> libpangomm-1.4.so.1 => not found 22:36:09 <Abibioboi> libgdkmm-2.4.so.1 => not found 22:36:11 <Abibioboi> libgtkmm-2.4.so.1 => not found 22:36:13 <Abibioboi> libgnomecanvasmm-2.6.so.1 => not found 22:36:15 <Abibioboi> libview.so.2 => not found 22:36:17 <Abibioboi> libsexymm.so.1 => not found 22:36:19 <Abibioboi> (sorry) 22:36:23 <Abibioboi> ok which one could it be? 22:36:34 <Abibioboi> brb, I like irssi more 22:36:35 *** Abibioboi [n=arrakis@5354EC24.cable.casema.nl] has quit ["You are not free, don't you get it?"] 22:36:42 <SchAmane> libview 22:36:49 *** Darkvate1 [n=plop@5354EC24.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 22:36:50 <SchAmane> thats what i was meaning 22:36:56 <SchAmane> libview 22:36:56 <Darkvate1> ok 22:36:59 <Darkvate1> I have libview 22:37:05 <SchAmane> libview.so.2 => not found 22:37:28 <Darkvate1> hmm 22:37:45 <Darkvate1> but libview is an extension to the widget system by vmware 22:37:53 <Darkvate1> I don't think it wouldn't work without 22:37:59 *** Darkvate1 is now known as DarkSSH 22:38:08 <DarkSSH> with suse 9.3 it worked nicely out of the box 22:38:22 <DarkSSH> although I didn't delete that many gnome crap that time ;p 22:39:24 <SchAmane> >>> Merging x11-libs/libsexy-0.1.8 to / 22:39:36 <SchAmane> >>> x11-libs/libsexy-0.1.8 merged. 22:41:31 *** tokai|noir [n=tokai@p54B82138.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ["It's like, wah."] 22:42:20 <SchAmane> >>> dev-cpp/libsexymm-0.1.5 merged. 22:42:47 *** Dred_furst [i=nn@user-1380.lns1-c9.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #openttd 22:46:01 <DarkSSH> hmm 22:46:18 <DarkSSH> if you don't have the appropiate libraries, vmware uses its own, which is in /usr/lib/vmware/lib 22:46:20 * SchAmane got it running with actual gtk+ from system 22:47:02 <DarkSSH> how? 22:48:07 <SchAmane> emerging all needed libraries 22:48:24 <DarkSSH> which ones? 22:48:54 <SchAmane> libxsexy 22:48:59 <SchAmane> libsexymm 22:49:12 <SchAmane> and libview 22:49:28 <DarkSSH> hmm 22:49:39 * DarkSSH doesn't have libsexymm in yast :s 22:49:57 <SchAmane> gentoo rules 22:50:01 <SchAmane> i need go out 22:50:20 *** SchAmane [n=schamane@p5498C912.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Ciao"] 22:54:36 *** Ayoze [n=kvirc@cm-213-141-48-120.telecable.es] has joined #openttd 22:55:58 *** jong [n=jong@flipflip.student.utwente.nl] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 22:57:01 *** shintah [i=bebble@bebble.olf.sgsnet.se] has quit [] 23:05:18 *** Brianetta [n=brian@82-39-48-88.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit ["Tschüß"] 23:06:35 *** ector-- [n=meloditr@ygun.brg.sgsnet.se] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:08:08 <CIA-3> glx * r4876 /trunk/console_cmds.c: - Fix: company value is an int64, so display it correctly in 'players' console command 23:13:54 <Sacro> nn all 23:13:56 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@83.100.183.57] has quit [" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- The future of IRC"] 23:15:44 *** DarkSSH [n=plop@5354EC24.cable.casema.nl] has quit ["leaving"] 23:19:50 *** Dred_furst [i=nn@user-1380.lns1-c9.dsl.pol.co.uk] has quit ["( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.0 :: www.XLhost.de )"] 23:26:25 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 23:26:25 *** Trippledence__ [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:28:50 *** eQualizer [n=lauri@dyn12-72.dsl.spy.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:30:20 *** eQualizer [n=lauri@dyn12-72.dsl.spy.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 23:58:47 *** Mackensen [n=cfulton@wikipedia/Mackensen] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 23:58:54 *** Mackensen [n=cfulton@carbon.deepthought.org] has joined #openttd