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00:47:42  <Serriaromeo> anybody around to give me an idea or two on a junction?
00:52:31  <Eddi|zuHause3> there's at least one whole topic in the forum about junctions
00:53:11  <Serriaromeo> i know i looked at it,  i'm just trying to fix a single junction that doesnt have a match in that topic
00:54:11  <Serriaromeo> http://www.tt-forums.net//files/wrinburg_transport_9th_jul_2099_151.png
01:00:09  <Eddi|zuHause3> you might look into load balancers
01:00:30  <Eddi|zuHause3> e.g. on the coop wiki
01:01:20  <Serriaromeo> ok,  maybe i can get an idea from there,  thanks
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09:58:17  <Darkvater> morning
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10:03:15  <peter1138> mr 'vater
10:03:23  <Darkvater> mr '38
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12:23:42  <Steve14> hi all
12:23:54  <Steve14> first visit here ;)
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12:25:42  <Zavior> Hello
12:28:20  <peter1138> i
12:28:22  <peter1138> er
12:28:22  <peter1138> hi
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12:29:50  <Zavior> peter1138, did ya start new game on your server today?
12:31:07  <peter1138> no
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12:31:47  <Zavior> Right
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13:18:13  <Eddi|zuHause2> !calc 2.5/1.7
13:18:14  <_42_> Eddi|zuHause2: 1.4705882352;
13:18:37  <Eddi|zuHause2> !calc 1.7/2.5
13:18:38  <_42_> Eddi|zuHause2: .6800000000;
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13:41:32  <Born_Acorn> If Passenger destinations ever get implemented, Passengers should pay when they get on, like in real life. :p
13:43:07  <hylje> o yes.
13:43:27  <roboboy> yeah
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13:56:38  <Brianetta> Born_Acorn: What happens if you ship them all off to thewrong place and unload?  Or just sell their carriage at the depot before sending back the empties?
13:57:40  <Brianetta> I always thought of the "cha-ching" moment being the driver or conductor handing the till-roll to an inspector.  The passengers did all pay when they got on.
13:58:50  <Born_Acorn> Down with imagination!
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15:15:29  <CIA-1> peter1138 * r6765 /trunk/train_cmd.c: - Fix: Don't add up running cost of articulated engine parts.
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15:45:17  <Darkvater> hehe the sheep are awesome
15:45:17  <Darkvater> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=504827#504827
15:46:12  <peter1138> yeah
15:46:14  <peter1138> we need a new vehicle type
15:48:59  <hylje> :D
15:49:01  <hylje> baa
15:49:50  <Serriaromeo> trains with duck heads and sheep following them for the cars :-)
15:49:56  <peter1138> sounds like toyland
15:52:29  <CIA-1> Darkvater * r6766 /trunk/ (5 files in 2 dirs): -Codechange: Move _openttd_revision[] into the functions that use it instead of global
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15:59:34  <Brianetta> New climate
15:59:41  <Brianetta> Barland
16:00:00  <Brianetta> Your trains are toy trains that deliver beers to patrons from the bar, and return with empties
16:00:08  <Brianetta> Beers must be fast and direct
16:00:13  <Brianetta> Peanuts can be slow and meandering
16:00:33  <Brianetta> Ashtrays wait on tables set to full load
16:00:53  <Brianetta> Somebody please distract me
16:01:46  <Darkvater> well...the sheep is not that bad actually
16:01:54  <Darkvater> everybody knows sheeps are clones :)
16:02:03  <Darkvater> but I think we're looking for something else
16:02:10  <hylje> s/sheeps/sheep/
16:02:13  <Brianetta> I don't clone trains unles I'm deliberately buying a fleet
16:02:13  <Darkvater> -s
16:02:14  <Darkvater> yea
16:02:18  <Brianetta> they tend to be bought in fours
16:02:48  <Brianetta> Normally I have a bunch of old trains.  I buy a loco and clone the orders, but the rolling stop gets transferred.
16:03:06  <Brianetta> rolling stock, even
16:03:09  <Brianetta> bleh
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16:15:16  <peter1138> i'm lazy
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16:26:01  <Brianetta> You are?
16:26:16  <Brianetta> I'm lazier.  11 minutes to respond lazy.
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16:29:40  <Wolf01> hi
16:30:47  <Brianetta> hi
16:32:10  <peter1138> well..h mm...
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16:37:43  <Born_Acorn> peter1138 is so lazy he trails off!
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16:52:46  <Wolf01> uhm, found another bug: playing with blimps (planesetw.grf)
16:53:05  <Wolf01> when they land on a commuter airport they get stuck
16:55:21  <Born_Acorn> It happens with aircraft which go slower than 80mph
16:56:45  <Born_Acorn> (usually by breakdown)
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16:57:12  <peter1138> on anything or just the commuter airport/
16:57:27  <Wolf01> they speed is 80mph
16:57:40  <Wolf01> for now seem on commuter only
16:57:55  <Wolf01> i'll try on all now
16:58:10  <Born_Acorn> I did report it with flyspray, but nobody cared. :(
16:58:35  <peter1138> if it's just the commuter, then LETS REVERT THEM!
16:58:36  <peter1138> mwuaha
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16:58:44  <peter1138> right, i need to, uh, go home
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17:04:56  <Wolf01> eh, i don't know... seem that happen only when the blimp come from top-right, maybe in all airports
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17:11:44  <Wolf01> i'll post the savegame+cfg on the flipspray.. if i can
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17:15:45  <Born_Acorn> http://bugs.openttd.org/task/270
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17:18:50  <Born_Acorn> http://bugs.openttd.org/task/269 <-- I fixed it with a GRF!
17:22:21  <Wolf01> i attached the savegame and the config, your report is useless than mine :]
17:24:01  <Born_Acorn> It happens independant of savegame and confiig. p
17:24:03  <Born_Acorn> :p
17:28:09  <Wolf01> !status magic bridges
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17:56:15  <CIA-1> miham * r6767 /trunk/lang/ (6 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed)
17:56:15  <CIA-1> WebTranslator2 update to 2006-10-13 19:54:10
17:56:15  <CIA-1> american - 5 fixed by WhiteRabbit (5)
17:56:15  <CIA-1> brazilian_portuguese - 5 fixed, 8 changed by tucalipe (13)
17:56:15  <CIA-1> bulgarian - 136 fixed, 12 changed by groupsky (148)
17:56:16  <CIA-1> dutch - 5 fixed by habell (5)
17:56:16  <CIA-1> french - 5 fixed by belugas (5)
17:59:06  <Wolf01> ehm, question: -Feature: Add a measurement tool that will show dimensions and height differences of various draggable tools (inspiration, concept and double checking by MeusH).
17:59:08  <Wolf01> where? how?
17:59:26  <Wolf01> ah, doesn't matter, i found it
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18:09:33  <MeusH> hi
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20:34:25  <Serriaromeo> Request: Some means of mass deleteing signs,  please, please, please
20:37:38  <Belugas> restart the game!!
20:37:44  <Belugas> nasty answer....
20:37:47  <Belugas> sorry
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20:41:55  <MeusH> If there is a list of signs, you can use them to get to the signs faster
20:42:08  <MeusH> but I'm not sure about lists... most things in OpenTTD has lists now
20:42:23  <wjarok> hervazy is a cunt, just in case hes hiding in here, go fuck yourself
20:43:28  * Belugas slaps wjarok around a bit with a large trout
20:43:48  <Belugas> watch your fingers young man
20:46:12  <peter1138> MeusH: there is a list
20:46:21  <peter1138> has been for ages
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20:48:09  <Serriaromeo> something like the sell all from the depot, expect it will mass remove signs would be great
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20:52:04  <MeusH> thanks peter1138
20:52:20  <MeusH> Serriaromeo, I think coding it would be a too much effort for a too small feature
20:52:30  <MeusH> there isn't real demand for that
20:52:34  <MeusH> at least that's what I think
20:52:40  <Serriaromeo> ok, figured i would ask anyway
20:52:44  <Serriaromeo> thanks anyway
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21:02:40  <XeryusTC> i have a suggestion for the measurement tool
21:03:14  <XeryusTC> i think it would be better to always show the height difference as a positive number
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21:10:48  <MeusH> IMO it's better as positive or negative, because you can determine whether a tile is higher or lower
21:11:25  <MeusH> and, by definition of difference, aka "delta", it's finish value - start value
21:11:57  <MeusH> well, I'd like other people to voice their opinion here
21:20:43  <XeryusTC> height difference is mostly measured in positive values IRL
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21:21:35  <XeryusTC> which also has a better understanding by non-maths people as it less abstract imho
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21:33:03  <Wolf01> 'night all
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21:57:40  <Eddi|zuHause2> the - does bear meaning, so it should not be abolished
21:57:52  <Eddi|zuHause2> but i am a maths person, what do i know ;)
21:58:05  <Frostregen> i would see it the same
21:59:51  <Eddi|zuHause2> of course, you could replace it by an upwards or downwards arrow...
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22:46:38  <bingo> hi - apologies if this a noob question - why does the 'replace vehicles' tool stop working when you get to maglev?
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22:50:50  <Eddi|zuHause2> what do you mean "stop"?
22:51:02  <Born_Acorn> I think he wants to replace to maglev?
22:51:11  <Born_Acorn> Which is a common question.
22:51:28  <Eddi|zuHause2> this is not "guess the question"...
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22:52:11  <bingo> sorry - irc died!
22:53:12  <bingo> i've moved all track/trains to maglev, but when a new engine comes available the 'auto upgrade' tool lists only diesel/electric trains
22:53:52  <bingo> so i have to manually replace mk1 maglev engines to the mk2 and the m3 (400 mph) tains
22:54:48  <Eddi|zuHause2> hm... did you check the dropdown box at the bottom of the window?
22:55:45  <bingo> no - so now i feel like a proper noob!
22:55:58  <bingo> doh - & thanks!!
22:56:06  <Eddi|zuHause2> lots of people do that mistake ;)
22:56:34  <Eddi|zuHause2> but usually with the question: "why can't i replace with electric engines?"
22:57:22  <bingo> lol - well thanks again - got to say i wish they'd not produced openttd... too many lost weekends
22:57:29  <bingo> ;-)
22:57:49  <Eddi|zuHause2> come back when you complain about lost weeks ;)
22:58:25  <bingo> lol... can i moan about the lack of draggable land purchase?
22:58:33  <bingo> you can drag+demolish, but not drag and buy
22:58:44  <bingo> i'm getting rsi!
22:58:45  <Serriaromeo> that's in minin :-)
22:58:52  <Eddi|zuHause2> yes, but it was deliberately decided against that for multiplayer
22:59:13  <Eddi|zuHause2> the miniin has a patch enabling it in single player
22:59:28  <Eddi|zuHause2> it certainly is at the forum somewhere
23:00:25  <bingo> damn - i'm suing - err, again noob alert - what's miniin>?
23:01:53  <Eddi|zuHause2> MiniIN aka Mini Integrated Nightly is a modification of (almost) current trunk with a lot of user patches applied and precompiled
23:02:34  <Serriaromeo> you can also get the source from svn.openttd.org/minin  i think that's the right address
23:03:14  <Eddi|zuHause2> no, it's /brances/MiniIN
23:03:19  <glx> svn://svn.openttd.org/branches/MiniIN
23:03:20  <Eddi|zuHause2> and it's probably case sensitive
23:03:22  <bingo> oh - gotcha - i got caught out when i used an interim (bridges over diagonal track/junctions) then 0.4.8 wouldn't load the game :-(
23:03:52  <bingo> brill - thanks will take a look
23:03:59  <Eddi|zuHause2> no, 0.4.8 won't load newer games
23:04:13  <bingo> i know (now!) lol
23:04:40  <Eddi|zuHause2> trunk has a lot of features that 0.4.8 does not know about
23:05:03  <Eddi|zuHause2> miniin should be able to load trunk savegames, but not the other way round
23:05:36  <Eddi|zuHause2> "should", because not even trunk is guaranteed to load trunk savegames ;)
23:05:59  <bingo> lol - no worries - qquite understand 'dev' releases
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23:09:03  <CIA-1> Darkvater * r6768 /trunk/ (aircraft_cmd.c airport.c airport.h airport_movement.h):
23:09:03  <CIA-1> -Cleanup: For airports change *Airport to *apc (variable naming coding style
23:09:03  <CIA-1>  conformance (AirportFTAClass), *FA to *apFA (to better reflect its type
23:09:03  <CIA-1>  AirportFTAbuildup), and ->next_in_chain into ->next.
23:10:09  <bingo> ok - thanks again for all help - looking fwd to 4.9 already! (and more lost weekends...)
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