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00:01:22 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: belugas * r9549 /trunk/src/newgrf_callbacks.h: -Codechange: Add definition of callbacks and callback masks for both industries and industry tiles 00:05:03 *** KritiK [Maxim@ppp83-237-101-196.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:11:03 *** Osai^zZz [~Osai@pD9EB5C09.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Osai^zZz] 00:13:24 *** ammler [~ammler@adsl-89-217-144-125.adslplus.ch] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 00:14:04 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: belugas * r9550 /trunk/src/ (industry.h table/build_industry.h): 00:14:04 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: -Codechange: Add notion and data of industry appearing chances, both in game and in creation mode. 00:14:04 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: Not used yet. 00:33:09 *** Nakilon [MVV@91.145.238.91] has joined #openttd 00:33:20 <Nakilon> hi 00:34:09 <Nakilon> i have a question... 00:34:50 <Nakilon> does building "headquarters" increase my rating in town where i'll build it? 00:35:07 <Nakilon> or maybe increase rating on stations of this town? 00:57:16 *** Digitalfox[Home]_ [~chatzilla@bl7-177-218.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 01:02:32 *** Digitalfox[Home] [~chatzilla@bl7-177-94.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:02:42 *** Digitalfox[Home]_ is now known as Digitalfox[Home] 01:11:21 *** Rexxars [~rexxars@ti131310a341-0296.bb.online.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:16:06 *** setrodox [~setrodox@85-124-46-17.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has quit [Quit: Hapiness ;D] 01:16:27 *** Rexxars [~rexxars@ti131310a341-0670.bb.online.no] has joined #openttd 01:36:14 *** Nakilon [MVV@91.145.238.91] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:36:47 *** Rexxars [~rexxars@ti131310a341-0670.bb.online.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:37:08 *** Nakilon [MVV@212.58.170.139] has joined #openttd 01:41:55 *** Rexxars [~rexxars@ti131310a341-0740.bb.online.no] has joined #openttd 01:44:14 <Nakilon> one more question 01:44:38 <Nakilon> what about more languages on http://wiki.openttd.org/? 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Live broadcast on sncf.fr . 06:47:47 <boekabart_> 'In all, the train develops a power of 19.6 megawatts (over 25000 HP) 07:02:40 <Zuu> Interesting, though I'll probably be at the dentist then.. :/ 07:09:30 <peter1138> coo 07:57:25 *** CmdKewin [~cmdkewin@212.243.72.197] has joined #openttd 08:10:05 *** Mucht_ [~Mucht@p57a0f507.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 08:10:22 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host137-229-dynamic.5-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 08:10:40 <Wolf01> hello 08:13:54 *** Mucht [~Mucht@p57a0d368.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:20:14 *** CmdKewin [~cmdkewin@212.243.72.197] has quit [] 08:40:57 *** CmdKewin [~cmdkewin@212.243.72.197] has joined #openttd 08:43:53 *** wolfryu [~wolf@h32231.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 08:43:53 *** wolfryu_ [~wolf@h32231.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:49:39 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has joined #openttd 09:08:29 *** setrodox [~setrodox@85-124-46-17.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #openttd 09:37:19 *** Rexxars [~rexxars@ti131310a341-1142.bb.online.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:42:24 *** Rexxars [~rexxars@ti131310a341-0313.bb.online.no] has joined #openttd 10:02:45 *** Rexxars [~rexxars@ti131310a341-0313.bb.online.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:03:17 *** orudge [~orudge@91.84.56.243] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:05:15 *** lugo [~lugo@pD958257D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 10:07:51 *** Rexxars [~rexxars@ti131310a341-0411.bb.online.no] has joined #openttd 10:10:44 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 10:12:59 *** Nigel [~nigel@202.154.148.165] has joined #openttd 10:14:49 *** Nigel_ [~nigel@202.154.148.165] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:14:56 *** hansen [~hnsn@pc11-321-01.Student.hig.se] has joined #openttd 10:18:05 *** HMage [~HMage@85.21.179.62] has joined #openttd 10:26:15 *** Netsplit resistance.oftc.net <-> scorpio.oftc.net quits: ThePizzaKing, Frostregen 10:26:46 *** Netsplit over, joins: ThePizzaKing, Frostregen 10:32:00 *** Nigel_ [~nigel@202.154.148.165] has joined #openttd 10:33:49 *** Nigel [~nigel@202.154.148.165] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:54:51 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1FA71.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:01:44 *** Osai^zZz [~Osai@pD9EB4FCE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:05:36 *** graeme [~chatzilla@cpc1-stkp1-0-0-cust109.manc.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 11:15:21 *** Eddi|zuHause3 [~johekr@p54B7540A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:15:52 <boekabart_> That TGV just went 574 km/h, you could view it Live 11:16:03 <boekabart_> 574 km per fricking hour..... 11:16:31 <TheMask96> damn... they where aiming for 560 ... 11:17:04 <boekabart_> almost broke the Japanese MagLev record of 580 11:17:39 <boekabart_> They had camera's on bridges, it was amazing how fast that 100 meter train was past 11:18:22 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B7540A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:18:25 <boekabart_> congrats to them 11:20:48 <hansen> i like trains 11:21:00 <boekabart_> i like trains that go 574 km/h! 11:21:19 <hansen> =D 11:21:46 <boekabart_> Official: 574.8 km/h 11:24:57 <hansen> ^^ 11:25:21 <hylje> :o 11:25:41 <hylje> in other words maglev is obsoleted by conventional rail? 11:26:36 *** Osai^zZz is now known as Osai 11:29:02 <SpComb> Logs: http://zapotek.paivola.fi/~terom/logs/openttd 11:29:02 <HMage> !logs 11:31:49 *** green-devil [~c@0x5731e55b.vgnxx6.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 11:32:35 <hansen> i like that log =D 11:35:17 *** Tobin [~Tobin@c58-107-50-36.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 11:35:36 <boekabart_> They use 31 kV rather than 25 kV, and larger wheels, but for the rest it was a normal train and apparently, people were just walking around in it during the record speed, so it was stable enough. Question is whether it's economical though... 11:35:40 * Tobin waves 11:38:05 <peter1138> only 3 cars seems a bit short 11:40:28 *** Zuu [~leif@c-0c3c71d5.025-58-6e6b702.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:44:40 *** orudge [~orudge@91.84.56.243] has joined #openttd 11:44:41 *** mode/#openttd [+o orudge] by ChanServ 11:48:11 *** knome [~knome@a88-112-229-131.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 12:04:42 <Eddi|zuHause> such records say nothing, it's just prestige 12:05:20 <Eddi|zuHause> afaik, the german railway decided against such record runs, because it's too costly, and gets no benefits 12:06:14 <Eddi|zuHause> rather we have tracks that can run 300km/h on a regular basis 12:06:59 <hylje> record speeds are good for research 12:07:22 <hylje> "so this particular type of rail and vehicles can get up to x speed" 12:07:38 <hylje> "how can we make it so cheaply?" 12:10:39 *** gaal [~gaal@mirka.ynet.sk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:23:07 <boekabart_> Actually they already run 300 km/h regularly in France, but they want to go up to 360 in the near future. This was a test run in that research project, and of course they do it for the media coverage. 12:27:48 <peter1138> bc 12:27:49 <peter1138> er 12:28:03 *** Thomas[NL] [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 12:30:54 *** Morphy [~morphine@193.220.103.232] has joined #openttd 12:34:01 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-155-87.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: ThePizzaKing] 12:37:21 *** gaal [~gaal@mirka.ynet.sk] has joined #openttd 12:42:46 *** Frostregen_ [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-150-147.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 12:48:18 *** Frostregen [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-183-072.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:48:26 *** Frostregen_ is now known as Frostregen 12:48:44 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 12:48:45 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 12:52:27 *** `Alex` [f8c3y6b1j@189-98-148-91.adsl.beotel.net] has joined #openttd 12:52:37 <`Alex`> hi all! 12:59:00 *** `Alex` [f8c3y6b1j@189-98-148-91.adsl.beotel.net] has quit [] 13:00:20 <hansen> gg 13:03:51 *** boekabart_ [~boekabart@81.58.27.138] has left #openttd [Back to work, back to work, everybody, work work work work!] 13:04:35 <Belugas> morning (for those on same TZ as me) 13:04:45 <Belugas> good day for the others 13:08:54 *** hansen [~hnsn@pc11-321-01.Student.hig.se] has quit [Quit: omg] 13:24:52 *** wolfryu_ [~wolf@h32231.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 13:24:52 *** wolfryu [~wolf@h32231.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:49:50 *** Morphy is now known as Morphy- 13:50:58 *** Morphy- is now known as Morphy 13:52:29 *** Morphy is now known as Morphy- 13:52:36 *** Morphy- is now known as Morphy 13:53:10 *** Morphy is now known as Morphy- 13:53:20 *** Morphy- is now known as Morphy 13:53:24 *** graeme [~chatzilla@cpc1-stkp1-0-0-cust109.manc.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.77 [Firefox 2.0.0.2/2007022001]] 13:53:32 <Morphy> sorry !! 13:53:36 *** 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16:52:34 <Ailure> I wonder if I should make something like Brianetta's server, but for nightlies 16:52:52 <Ailure> I see nightly servers, but they all use vanilla TTD grf's D: 16:52:59 <peter1138> lies! 16:53:05 <peter1138> well, maybe 16:53:06 <peter1138> hmm 16:54:10 *** HMage [~HMage@85.21.179.62] has quit [Quit: HMage] 16:54:56 *** xyz [~ss@bas2-montreal02-1096603491.dsl.bell.ca] has left #openttd [] 16:55:42 <Ailure> I probably would use pretty much GRF's as Brianettas server 16:55:46 <Ailure> well expect for TTRS3 16:57:05 <Thomas[NL]> TTRS3 ftw 16:59:37 <Ailure> number of max clients/companies really need to be increased though 16:59:38 <Belugas> ftw? 16:59:45 <Ailure> for the in 16:59:47 <Ailure> *win 17:00:14 <Ailure> but I assume mentioning it is beating a dead horse D: 17:03:07 <Ailure> heh 17:03:22 <Ailure> I wish I could limit spefic things 17:03:54 <Ailure> such as a certain engine or aircraft type 17:04:10 <Ailure> I think some games would turn out a bit intresting if you limited the number of huge aircrafts for example 17:04:57 *** CmdKewin [~cmdkewin@212.243.72.197] has quit [] 17:08:05 *** XeryusTC2 [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has joined #openttd 17:08:14 *** XeryusTC [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has quit [Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by XeryusTC2))] 17:08:17 *** XeryusTC2 is now known as XeryusTC 17:08:18 <Thomas[NL]> would it be more off a realistic good-looking rail-building- or a huge map-width network server 17:12:49 <hylje> :o 17:13:26 <hylje> could be fun to implement vehicle markets too 17:13:27 *** Osai^zZz [~Osai@pd9eb4fce.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:15:09 *** raimar2 [~hawk@p5489F9D7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:15:36 *** XeryusTC2 [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has joined #openttd 17:16:00 *** XeryusTC [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has quit [Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by XeryusTC2))] 17:16:01 *** XeryusTC2 is now known as XeryusTC 17:18:51 <Ailure> yeah 17:18:58 <Ailure> I had thoughts of a secondary market as well 17:19:10 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: belugas * r9552 /trunk/src/ (bridge_map.h console.cpp): -Documentation: Some more doxygen work, adding comments too 17:19:11 <Ailure> so when you sell a vehicle, it's not really gone ;) 17:20:07 *** raimar3 [~hawk@p5489FFDA.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:20:46 *** setrodox_ [~setrodox@85-124-46-17.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #openttd 17:20:49 <hylje> no 17:20:59 <hylje> i mean the vehicle factories need to produce the vehicles 17:21:06 <hylje> and you buy them in bulk 17:21:34 <Ailure> heh well 17:21:41 <Ailure> with secondary market I menat somethng like 17:21:51 <Ailure> the aging system needs to be redone anywa 17:22:09 <Ailure> it makes more sense to take milage into account than number of years old 17:22:11 <Eddi|zuHause> i rather thought about it like this 17:22:24 <Eddi|zuHause> if you buy a vehicle, the price for following vehicles increases 17:22:32 <Eddi|zuHause> over time, the price drops again 17:22:37 <Ailure> heh 17:22:50 <Ailure> I can expect some popular vehicles raising in price alot during multiplayer games 17:22:54 <Ailure> not that i'm against the idea :P 17:22:56 <Eddi|zuHause> the newer the vehicle type is, the pricier it gets 17:23:12 <hylje> i'd still have some bulk contracts with that 17:23:28 <Eddi|zuHause> so you'll have to pay some really big money if you want more than two vehicles of a prototype 17:23:57 <Ailure> I mena heh 17:23:59 <Ailure> in the last game I ran 17:23:59 <Eddi|zuHause> also, the price of the vehicle could vary on the local and global economy (see rebalance branch) 17:24:15 <Ailure> it was kinda discouraging seeing a player using only eurostar and Boing 747 17:24:22 <hylje> :o 17:24:26 <hylje> anyway 17:24:44 <hylje> its still cheaper for a large company to buy a load of vehicles in bulk 17:24:46 <hylje> irl 17:25:00 <Ailure> true true :p 17:25:14 <Ailure> Although I admit, that would make the game slightly more complex 17:25:24 <hylje> prototypes couldnt be produced in bulk maybe 17:25:26 <Ailure> I tend to like, build a train and then clone that train whenever there's a need for more 17:25:29 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, but production capacity has to be simulated somehow 17:25:42 <Ailure> The A33 would be like the Wii 17:25:48 <Ailure> everyone wants one, but none would be able to get it 17:25:50 <hylje> group vehicles by vendor, each vendor can produce only so much stuff 17:25:51 <Ailure> or I mean 17:25:53 <Ailure> very few 17:25:54 <Ailure> ;) 17:26:04 <Eddi|zuHause> my friend has a Wii 17:26:16 <Ailure> The demand for it is still high 17:26:22 <Ailure> I probably would get one if I tried, but I hadn't. 17:26:29 <Ailure> Is kinda waiting for summer to come along first. 17:26:43 <hylje> ima happy with mah ds 17:26:47 <Eddi|zuHause> i am really not interested in game consoles 17:26:49 <Ailure> I have a DS too 17:26:54 <Eddi|zuHause> i never had any 17:27:14 <hylje> ds's my first 17:27:20 *** setrodox [~setrodox@85-124-46-17.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:27:25 <Ailure> I don't really consider DS a console << 17:27:34 <hylje> it plays games 17:27:42 <hylje> and isnt really a computer or mobile phone 17:27:45 <hylje> wtf is it 17:27:55 <Ailure> a handheld 17:27:56 <Ailure> :) 17:28:04 <Eddi|zuHause> a handheld console... 17:28:21 <Ailure> technically it is a computer 17:28:24 <Ailure> but so are consoles 17:28:38 <Eddi|zuHause> technically, microwaves are also a computer 17:29:04 <Ailure> yes 17:29:09 <Ailure> but they aren't microcomputers 17:29:15 <hylje> huegcomputers 17:29:21 <Eddi|zuHause> sure they are 17:29:39 <Eddi|zuHause> you don't get to see any not-micro-computers anymore, except in museums 17:30:57 <Eddi|zuHause> and probably less than 1% of all microprocessors are actually PCs, or game consoles, or "handhelds"... 17:31:29 <Ailure> I should hack some of thoose devices one of thoose days 17:32:07 <Eddi|zuHause> you probably have more than 100 processors in a modern car 17:32:54 <Ailure> although not very powerful ones 17:33:01 <Ailure> but they have each their own purpose on the other hand 17:33:06 <Ailure> so they don't really need much power 17:33:13 <hylje> hack the world 17:33:40 <hylje> Eddi|zuHause: companies in the world still have and make minicomputers and mainframes 17:33:45 <Ailure> I admit 17:33:57 <Ailure> sometimes I imagine what I could do with nearly infinite computer power ;) 17:34:00 <Ailure> brute force would be fun 17:34:05 <hylje> solve an infinite loop? 17:34:42 <Ailure> hmm 17:34:44 <Eddi|zuHause> hylje: sure, but those "mainframes" consist of microprocessors... they don't use tubes or relais anymore 17:34:56 <Ailure> a computer that solves a infinite number of instructions in a second 17:35:01 <Ailure> and then get's stuck in a infinite loop 17:35:06 *** ammler [~ammler@adsl-84-227-45-141.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 17:35:06 <Ailure> ...only the thought gives me headache. 17:35:26 <Eddi|zuHause> where "microprocessor" means "anything remotely resembling an integrated circuit" 17:35:34 *** Purno [~Purno@5357D37C.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 17:35:51 <Ailure> Microcomputer seems to refer to anything that is smaller than a wardrobe 17:35:57 <Ailure> which is the case for majority of computer today 17:36:25 <Ailure> It's a term I rarely see used today, and for a good reason 17:36:29 <Eddi|zuHause> they called that thing in "Lost" also "microcomputer" 17:36:38 <Eddi|zuHause> and it clearly filled the whole room 17:36:51 <Ailure> I wouldn't call that a microcomputer 17:36:51 <Ailure> heh 17:36:59 <Ailure> might been someone getting facts wrong, or having weird logic 17:37:01 <hylje> you just Lost -- The Game 17:40:09 *** iPandaMojo [~panda@ip72-197-231-130.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Quit: iPandaMojo] 17:42:29 *** setrodox__ [~setrodox@85-124-46-17.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #openttd 17:43:34 <Sacro|Laptop> turing machine? 17:45:12 *** dihedral [~dihedral@dslb-084-057-230-238.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 17:45:12 *** PandaMojo [~chatzilla@ip72-197-231-130.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #openttd 17:48:29 <dihedral> i get a segmentation fault after joining my test server running 0.5.1RC2 with no extra patches 17:48:34 <dihedral> custom build 17:48:50 <dihedral> if anybody would like to try to connect - i would love some ideas 17:48:59 <dihedral> on solving this issue 17:49:45 *** setrodox_ [~setrodox@85-124-46-17.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:50:12 *** mikk36 [~mikk36@ip35.cab12.ktln.starman.ee] has quit [Quit: The pedestrian had no idea which way to run, so I ran over him.] 17:50:16 <hylje> :o 17:52:36 <dihedral> debug_level 6 17:52:37 <dihedral> dbg: [NET][UDP] Queried from 84.57.230.238 17:52:38 <dihedral> dbg: [NET] Client connected from 84.57.230.238 on frame 428 17:52:40 <dihedral> dbg: [NET] Closed client connection 17:52:42 <dihedral> dbg: [NET] Client connected from 84.57.230.238 on frame 503 17:52:43 <dihedral> dbg: [Pool] (Savegame) Cleaning pool.. 17:52:45 <dihedral> dbg: [Pool] (Savegame) Increasing size of pool to 131072 items (131072 bytes) 17:52:46 <dihedral> dbg: [Sl] Saving chunk MAPS 17:52:48 <dihedral> dbg: [Sl] Saving chunk MAPT 17:52:49 <dihedral> dbg: [Sl] Saving chunk MAPO 17:52:51 <dihedral> dbg: [Sl] Saving chunk MAP2 17:52:53 <dihedral> dbg: [Sl] Saving chunk M3LO 17:52:54 <dihedral> dbg: [Sl] Saving chunk M3HI 17:52:56 <dihedral> dbg: [Sl] Saving chunk MAP5 17:52:57 <dihedral> dbg: [Sl] Saving chunk MAPE 17:52:59 <dihedral> dbg: [Sl] Saving chunk NAME 17:53:00 <dihedral> dbg: [Sl] Saving chunk DATE 17:53:02 *** mikk36 [~mikk36@ip35.cab12.ktln.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 17:53:02 <dihedral> dbg: [Sl] Saving chunk VIEW 17:53:03 <dihedral> dbg: [Sl] Saving chunk CHTS 17:53:05 <dihedral> dbg: [Sl] Saving chunk OPTS 17:53:07 <dihedral> dbg: [Sl] Saving chunk PATS 17:53:08 <dihedral> dbg: [Sl] Saving chunk VEHS 17:53:10 <dihedral> dbg: [Sl] Saving chunk CHKP 17:53:11 <dihedral> dbg: [Sl] Saving chunk DEPT 17:53:13 <dihedral> dbg: [Sl] Saving chunk ORDR 17:53:15 <dihedral> dbg: [Sl] Saving chunk INDY 17:53:16 <dihedral> dbg: [Sl] Saving chunk SUBS 17:53:18 <hylje> .. 17:53:18 <dihedral> dbg: [Sl] Saving chunk ECMY 17:53:19 <dihedral> dbg: [Sl] Saving chunk ENGN 17:53:21 <dihedral> dbg: [Sl] Saving chunk ENGS 17:53:23 <dihedral> dbg: [Sl] Saving chunk ERNW 17:53:23 <hylje> what? 17:53:24 <dihedral> dbg: [Sl] Saving chunk CITY 17:53:26 <dihedral> dbg: [Sl] Saving chunk SIGN 17:53:27 <dihedral> dbg: [Sl] Saving chunk STNS 17:53:29 <dihedral> dbg: [Sl] Saving chunk ROAD 17:53:31 <dihedral> dbg: [Sl] Saving chunk PLYR 17:53:32 <dihedral> dbg: [Sl] Saving chunk ANIT 17:53:34 <dihedral> dbg: [Sl] Saving chunk NGRF 17:53:35 <dihedral> dbg: [Sl] Saving chunk PRIC 17:53:37 <dihedral> dbg: [Sl] Saving chunk CAPR 17:53:38 <dihedral> dbg: [Pool] (Savegame) Cleaning pool.. 17:53:39 <glx> just paste the end 17:53:40 <dihedral> *** dihedral has joined the game 17:53:42 <dihedral> *** Game paused (incoming client) 17:53:44 <dihedral> Segmentation fault 17:53:45 <dihedral> that is the console output 17:53:48 <dihedral> Segmentation fault 17:53:51 <dihedral> :-) 17:53:55 *** Digitalfox[Home] [~chatzilla@bl7-177-218.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 17:53:58 <hylje> that was redundant 17:54:23 *** Zuu [~leif@c-0c3c71d5.025-58-6e6b702.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 17:54:54 <dihedral> what do you want me to post? 17:55:07 <dihedral> i cannot post anything other than what i have provided 17:55:13 <Sionide> use a pastebin ffs... basic netiquette 17:55:18 <Sionide> :) 17:55:19 <dihedral> it's an svn checkout from tags/0.5.1-RC2 17:55:51 <glx> all the stuff you pasted is just showing that the game was saved correctly, you joined then segfault 17:56:26 <dihedral> didnt even get to unpausint... 17:56:40 <dihedral> on the client side of things i get to see the map for a jiffy 17:57:09 <glx> something bad happened but I don't know what and why 17:57:25 <dihedral> you wanna try to connect 17:57:49 <dihedral> openttd.dihedral.de:27020 17:57:58 <dihedral> pw is test 18:06:48 <dihedral> found the issue 18:06:50 <dihedral> :-D 18:06:58 <dihedral> it is the resolution 18:07:03 <dihedral> of the dedicated server 18:07:14 <glx> oh :) 18:07:18 <dihedral> in 0.5.0 i am able to set a resolution of 1,1 18:07:33 <dihedral> in 0.5.1RC2 this causes the seg fault 18:07:56 <dihedral> which is not so nice... 18:08:05 *** DJ_Mirage [~sexybigge@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 18:08:23 *** Tobin [~Tobin@c58-107-50-36.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: Tobin] 18:08:30 <dihedral> as it means that if i run 0.5.1RC2 instead of my 0.5.0 games it will use a lot more cpu 18:08:43 <dihedral> because i have to set a heigher res 18:08:47 <glx> hmm I though this was fixed 18:08:52 *** KritiK [Maxim@ppp85-141-224-232.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #openttd 18:09:08 <dihedral> like i said: it wokes for 0.5.0-final 18:09:37 <peter1138> dihedral: not a lot more 18:09:45 <glx> no 0.5.0 could crash if the resolution was smaller than chat box 18:09:46 <peter1138> 10x10 should work 18:09:53 <peter1138> there is that 18:10:19 <peter1138> also, scrollto 0 will reduce cpu usage a lot 18:10:24 <dihedral> i never had 050 crash 18:10:33 <dihedral> uh - sweet 18:10:38 <dihedral> good to know that one :-) 18:10:41 <dihedral> i shall try it 18:10:44 <peter1138> though players will join at the top of the map 18:11:09 <knome> peter1138, that's not a big issue 18:11:50 <dihedral> would be nice though if this resolution thing could be fixed... again :-) 18:12:41 * peter1138 considers going to fix his bike 18:16:11 *** mikk36 [~mikk36@ip35.cab12.ktln.starman.ee] has quit [Quit: The pedestrian had no idea which way to run, so I ran over him.] 18:18:25 *** mikk36 [~mikk36@ip35.cab12.ktln.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 18:34:42 *** dihedral_ 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commun, doesn't that make you a communist, hehe 19:11:48 <Belugas> nope 19:11:54 <knome> how sad ;( 19:12:02 <Belugas> that makes me part of a community 19:12:05 <Belugas> not quite the same 19:12:10 <knome> hehe yes of course 19:12:41 <knome> just trying to cheer myself up 19:13:09 <Belugas> Cheers! 19:13:16 <Belugas> we are tuesday! 19:13:21 <Belugas> Whouhou!!! 19:13:40 <knome> yeah, but it doesn't make it any better, i've got a miserable flu 19:13:41 <Belugas> and i did not break the nighlies! 19:13:48 <knome> yayy, that's great 19:14:16 <Belugas> recipe against flu : hot rhum and wine, a bit of honey, lots of sleep 19:14:26 <Belugas> don't touch your keyboard 19:14:28 <Belugas> rest! 19:14:32 <knome> might help ;) 19:14:44 <Belugas> WILL help 19:14:44 <knome> but i'm an addict 19:14:52 <knome> i live for the internet 19:14:53 <knome> ;) 19:15:24 *** boekabart [~boekabart@g54037.upc-g.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 19:18:00 <Belugas> well.. nothing i can do about addiction.... i'm on the same kind of boat, just not the same color ;) 19:18:21 <knome> sounds.. erm... good 19:18:31 <dihedral> i am addicted to openttd 19:18:44 <knome> heh, that's just a small part of it 19:18:53 <dihedral> though for some reason i think i am in the wrong place if i wanted to find help 19:19:07 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: rubidium * r9553 /trunk/src/ (namegen.h roadveh.h table/namegen.h table/roadveh.h): -Documentation: fix ambiguity issue. 19:19:09 <knome> ?) 19:19:13 <dihedral> i dont feel like mentioning all my addictinos 19:19:34 <dihedral> :-P 19:19:46 <knome> well, i think that's enought that i work as a webdesigner and my office is not more than 1 meter away from my bed 19:20:15 <dihedral> well - i am doing development 19:20:24 <dihedral> love fiddeling around with linux stuff 19:20:29 <knome> me too 19:20:37 <dihedral> and have no letteres left on my keyboard :-P 19:20:37 <knome> but that's not what i'm best in 19:20:45 <knome> sounds familiar 19:21:12 <dihedral> no - i am best in eating and sleeping and spending a lot of time on the loo :-) 19:21:37 <Zuu> dihedral: Time to buy a kinesis countered keyboard? :p 19:21:39 <knome> heh 19:21:51 <dihedral> lol 19:22:03 <Zuu> Unless it is what you allready got. :) 19:22:06 <knome> zuu, they aren't much of use with high typing rates? 19:22:07 <dihedral> perhaps an interface that clips right in to my mind 19:22:33 <Zuu> knome: I like mine. But I'm not a ultra-fast typist. 19:22:34 <dihedral> thinking where the mous is supposed to go 19:22:49 <dihedral> could also be fun in openttd :-D 19:22:50 <Zuu> But I don't understand why they would not be good to type ultra-fast on. 19:23:08 <dihedral> once you type ultra fast you will know 19:23:12 <knome> i've heard that they don't get all the "pushes" 19:23:27 <dihedral> though if you start off with that keyboard you might never type ultra fast even if you think you do 19:23:30 <knome> and you don't even need to type _that_ fast 19:23:38 <knome> true 19:23:53 <knome> a flat keyboard is the best i've used 19:23:55 <knome> and using 19:24:10 <dihedral> hehe - that laser thingy 19:24:21 <dihedral> you will never be able to get rid of the letters 19:24:37 <dihedral> you just start wearing off the wood of your desk 19:24:39 <knome> ;) 19:24:46 <knome> not that flat 19:24:57 <dihedral> oh :-( 19:25:03 <knome> they're useless with fast typing rates also 19:25:09 <knome> *high 19:25:24 <dihedral> of course - they are way too flat 19:25:28 <knome> yep 19:25:54 <dihedral> another down side would be that you will never be able to put a keyboard on your lap if you need to 19:26:10 <knome> yyyep 19:26:23 <knome> they need to develop a kb similar to an optical mouse 19:26:45 <dihedral> i just want to think it all 19:26:53 <knome> even better 19:27:49 <dihedral> or perhaps have a big big touch screen 19:27:50 <knome> but what about telepathy 19:28:09 <dihedral> i am not allowed to show my abilities in public 19:28:25 <knome> why's that 19:29:47 <Eddi|zuHause> <dihedral> though for some reason i think i am in the wrong place if i wanted to find help <- wrong, we can so totally help you to play openttd ;) 19:30:12 <dihedral> :-) 19:30:28 <dihedral> knome: usually it scares the others 19:30:52 <dihedral> Eddi|zuHause: you can help me by adding more features to the dedicated server console :-) 19:30:59 <knome> i've heard from some people that playing openttd a whole day isn't healthy anymore, they must be wrong? 19:31:16 <knome> dihedral, i was starting to think the worst ;) 19:31:21 <dihedral> it gets healthy as soon as your skin turnes grey 19:31:28 <knome> dihedral, of you being a closed source developer ;) 19:31:39 <Eddi|zuHause> the longest i had openttd running was like 3 weeks ;) 19:31:53 <knome> but did you _play_ it for 3 weeks ;) 19:32:05 <knome> once we set up a server 19:32:09 <knome> and i addicted 19:32:23 <Eddi|zuHause> well, i spend 95% of the time in pause modus, even if i play 19:32:24 <dihedral> i setup 2 19:32:37 <knome> i played some 30 hours straight, building a train network _around the world_ 19:32:49 <knome> with a map of 512x512, if i remember right 19:33:24 <dihedral> my servers only run 1024x1024 19:33:46 <dihedral> but then i have no bandwidth limit 19:33:51 <knome> :) 19:34:00 <dihedral> which i actually love telling everyone 19:34:08 <knome> i bet! 19:34:23 <dihedral> 100Mbit :-D 19:34:27 <dihedral> flatrate 19:34:37 <Zuu> only 100/10 here ;) 19:34:57 <knome> 8/1 :(( 19:34:57 <Rubidium> poor Zuu 19:34:58 <Zuu> also flatrate to student pricing. :) 19:35:08 <Rubidium> very poor knome... 19:35:12 <dihedral> uh - i pay nothing 19:35:13 <knome> i know 19:35:19 <knome> shitty finland 19:35:40 <knome> you have to pay _a lot_ to get and upload rate higher than 1 mbit 19:36:00 <Eddi|zuHause> i have like 384kbit/64kbit 19:36:05 <Zuu> I pay ~10-12 euro / month. 19:36:20 * peter1138 has 8/0.5 at home and 2/2+2/2 at work. pompiedom 19:36:21 <knome> i think this costs something like 50e/mth 19:36:23 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm not sure about the exact values 19:36:24 <dihedral> i pay nothing for a full ethernet 100Mbit :-) 19:36:43 <dihedral> and then it is a fiber connection across the road (8 core) to our provider 19:37:19 *** scia [~scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 19:37:36 <knome> and you have some free space in your apartment? 19:37:47 <dihedral> it's at work 19:37:58 <dihedral> i am allowed to add my own servers there 19:38:01 <knome> hehe, it's good for me, too 19:38:12 <dihedral> other wise it would be a lovely 180EUR/month 19:38:18 <Rubidium> dihedral: that ain't fair... I was talking about my conenction at home 19:38:27 <Zuu> Yea :) 19:38:30 <knome> i need only a little space 19:38:44 <knome> maybe 1m x 1m 19:38:45 <hylje> knome? the very thought confuses me ;) 19:38:51 <knome> hylje, ? 19:39:08 <hylje> the name in itself 19:39:18 <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, i was wondering that myself ;)( 19:39:27 <knome> hylje, which name 19:39:32 <knome> x) 19:39:37 <dihedral> hehe 19:39:37 <hylje> (x 19:39:44 <knome> umm.. thought 19:40:28 <knome> i really should sleep 19:40:31 <dihedral> Rubidium: my connection at home is a very sad 2 mbit adsl 19:40:45 <Rubidium> poor dihedral ;) 19:40:50 <dihedral> yeah 19:40:59 <dihedral> but then ssh into my server and i am happy 19:41:04 <Eddi|zuHause> i still "win" ;) 19:41:12 <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause: why? 19:41:20 <knome> he has the longest nick 19:41:27 <knome> ;) 19:41:42 <Zuu> Rubidium: slowest connection? 19:41:44 <Eddi|zuHause> besides that, nobody here said he had a slower connection than i do ;) 19:42:04 <knome> what about a gprs-connection, do they count? 19:42:13 <dihedral> nope 19:42:24 <knome> that's a shame 19:42:31 <dihedral> but still - i have a 4U server 19:42:40 <dihedral> on a 100mbit connection 19:42:47 <dihedral> you cannot beat that can you Rubidium ? 19:43:00 <Zuu> dihedral: I have a Toshiba Satelite 1400 server ;) 19:43:19 <Zuu> (read 4.5 year old laptop) 19:43:22 <Rubidium> I have a Pentium 550 @ 100 mbit 19:43:50 <Rubidium> (at home) 19:44:54 <knome> was that it for the big connection talk 19:44:59 <dihedral> i have a amd 2000+ as a server with 1GB RAM 19:45:04 <dihedral> and that is also my hardware 19:45:12 <knome> lol 19:45:15 <dihedral> a mac power book G4 12" laptop 19:45:27 <dihedral> and an amd 2400+ as a workstation 19:45:30 <knome> we have a 700mhz with 512ram! 19:45:59 <knome> but it cost us nothing 19:46:04 <dihedral> + a lovely little neo witha 1GHz via but fanless and a 1GB CF card instead of a hdd 19:46:04 <Zuu> My laptop (celeron 1.33Ghz had 768 MB) 19:46:14 <Zuu> laptop RAM = expensive :) 19:46:23 <knome> it is 19:46:31 <knome> memory = expensive 19:46:40 <Zuu> it was even more when I bough the 512 module 3.5 years ago :) 19:47:06 <Zuu> Saidly a few sectors broke a few moths ago :( 19:47:10 <hylje> :< 19:47:12 <knome> i'm running amd athlon64 x2 4600+ 19:47:24 <Eddi|zuHause> i have a 486 SX 25 laptop with 8MB ;) 19:47:36 <knome> Eddi|zuHause, me too! but it isn't in use 19:47:47 <knome> i also have a 2,8M floppy drive 19:47:52 <Eddi|zuHause> i had it running a few weeks ago 19:47:58 <knome> ...but no 2,8M floppies 19:47:59 <Eddi|zuHause> but the battery is dead 19:48:09 <knome> yeah 19:48:12 <Eddi|zuHause> i have never seen one of those 19:48:21 <knome> it's sweet 19:48:31 <knome> and must've cost a lot 19:48:53 <Eddi|zuHause> i've got a 100MB ZIP drive though 19:48:55 *** Purno [~Purno@5357D37C.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:49:06 <knome> i've never had a zip drive 19:49:09 <Zuu> 100MB Mac Zip <3 19:49:19 <knome> neither have i had a game console! 19:49:24 <hylje> wtf was the point of zip drives 19:49:36 <knome> bigger "floppies" than floppies? :) 19:49:47 <Zuu> Our familys mac had 600 MB hard drive at that time 19:49:52 <knome> and to have something to throw out of the window when angry 19:49:55 <Rubidium> why would anybody want to have floppies, cds, zip drives, dvds, hd-dvds, bluray disks, usb memory, flash memory and the lot? 19:50:14 <knome> dunno 19:50:18 <knome> that's weird ;) 19:50:20 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@dD5E03DCF.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 19:51:58 <dihedral> cd-r's were not as available at that time 19:52:06 <dihedral> i has a mac in 1989 19:52:18 <dihedral> Macintosh SE/30 19:52:23 <dihedral> 40MB scsi disk 19:52:28 <knome> i've never had a mac either 19:53:34 <dihedral> in england i had about 10 computers in the room i rented :-) 19:53:43 <knome> heh 19:53:45 *** boekabart [~boekabart@g54037.upc-g.chello.nl] has quit [Quit: Your eyes grow heavy.. you grow very sleepy..... zzzz...] 19:53:46 <dihedral> nothing below 900MHz 19:53:53 <knome> lol 19:54:00 <dihedral> 2 of which were laptops :-D 19:54:09 <knome> only 2 years ago i had nothing above 700mhz 19:54:19 <dihedral> as long as nobody calles me a nerd that is fine 19:54:24 <knome> nerd 19:54:30 <dihedral> not cool knome 19:54:34 <knome> hehe 19:54:35 <dihedral> :-P 19:54:46 <knome> but now i've got some great stuff 19:54:58 <dihedral> i want a core2duo 19:55:03 <knome> buy then 19:55:06 <dihedral> and a projector 19:55:14 <Eddi|zuHause> who is the bigger nerd, the nerd or the nerd calling him nerd ;p 19:55:22 <dihedral> hehe 19:55:24 <knome> Eddi|zuHause, me! me! me! 19:55:26 <dihedral> late call Eddi|zuHause 19:55:29 * knome volunteers 19:55:35 * peter1138 pats his trusty athlon 800 19:55:43 <dihedral> rofl 19:55:50 <dihedral> oh - cute 19:55:57 <dihedral> now that is adorable 19:57:21 <hylje> :o 19:57:25 * knome is adorable 19:58:50 <knome> ...and silence 19:58:56 <knome> i knew it would work 19:59:12 <hylje> jumping into conclusions are we? 19:59:23 <knome> always 20:00:07 <dihedral> the adorable part was meant for peter1138 20:00:13 <knome> hehe i know 20:00:14 <knome> ;) 20:01:54 *** scia [~scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 20:05:06 *** Peakki [antti@cs181000195.pp.htv.fi] has quit [Quit: Lähdössä] 20:06:21 <TrueBrain> we adore peter1138 too 20:06:52 <dihedral> what do you mean with "we"? 20:06:58 <dihedral> that is slightly scary :-P 20:07:53 <TrueBrain> yeah, it is :) 20:07:59 <TrueBrain> wink wink 20:08:11 <dihedral> dont you wink at me TrueBrain 20:08:18 * TrueBrain winks at dihedral 20:08:21 <dihedral> that just will provide sleepless nights 20:08:26 <dihedral> arrrgh 20:08:27 * TrueBrain winks at dihedral 20:08:30 <knome> more time to play openttd 20:08:41 * knome winks at dihedral 20:08:43 <TrueBrain> exactly :) 20:08:50 <dihedral> i knew it all the time 20:08:55 <dihedral> these gues just LOVE me 20:09:01 <dihedral> man - taht is deep 20:09:13 <knome> don't say that yet 20:09:14 <knome> ;) 20:09:15 <TrueBrain> you have a creative mind 20:09:17 <TrueBrain> and an ugly one 20:09:17 <peter1138> TrueBrain: hmm, am i now the developer who tests everything on low-end kit? 20:09:22 <TrueBrain> now you gave me sleepless nights 20:09:29 <peter1138> once upon a time... it was top of the range 20:09:30 <knome> hehe 20:09:35 <TrueBrain> peter1138: low-end? :) 20:09:49 <peter1138> exactly! 20:09:55 <peter1138> it's perfickly usable 20:10:12 <TrueBrain> peter1138: I seriously have no clue what you are talking about :) 20:10:26 <TrueBrain> If you would have told me you saw some birds making love while airborne, it would have sound the same to me 20:10:41 <peter1138> nutter 20:10:46 <knome> nuts 20:10:49 <TrueBrain> nu 20:11:02 <TrueBrain> !whatis nutter 20:11:08 * TrueBrain slaps _42_ 20:11:12 <dihedral> TrueBrain: gimme a hug 20:11:16 <dihedral> :-D 20:11:21 <dihedral> rofl 20:11:31 <TrueBrain> dihedral: if you don't mind, Ipass. You have shows weird affection towards male people some lines above 20:11:51 <knome> TrueBrain, you can't pass 20:11:59 <TrueBrain> knome: I really just did :) 20:12:08 * knome hugs TrueBrain 20:12:09 <knome> no you can't 20:12:23 <dihedral> it would be wrong to always assume another human being ( i here i grant you the benefit of the doubt) is male 20:12:23 <Ailure> !!??? 20:12:24 <TrueBrain> peter1138: NOW I understand you, after reading back where the 'adoring' came from :) Hehehe! 20:12:39 <peter1138> :) 20:12:44 <TrueBrain> dihedral: 99% of this channel is male 20:12:47 <TrueBrain> and that 1% is not sure 20:12:58 <peter1138> the 1% *used* to be male 20:13:00 <TrueBrain> (as we have 93 people in here, of which 2 are bots for sure, you do the math) 20:13:12 <Ailure> The last percentage is male too, they only think they're female ;P 20:13:16 <Ailure> jk 20:13:16 <TrueBrain> peter1138: and yes, I guess you do have the slowest machine :) 20:13:22 <dihedral> ok - here i shall assume it would be 2 % if it was concerning TrueBrain - due to the "we" 20:13:33 <knome> hehe 20:13:43 <TrueBrain> why can I as male not adore peter1138? :) 20:13:57 <TrueBrain> do you want to say there is something wrong with that? 20:14:02 <Ailure> nothing wrong with homosexuality 20:14:04 <dihedral> i adored him too - or more the fact that he was patting his computer 20:14:04 <Ailure> ;) 20:14:08 <TrueBrain> do you now here want publicly want to say you are homofobe? 20:14:17 <TrueBrain> !openttd bark 20:14:18 <_42_> TrueBrain: bark bark bark woef woef grrrrr 20:14:26 <dihedral> rofl 20:14:31 *** sPooT [~spoot@e156067.upc-e.chello.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:14:39 <TrueBrain> good, glad we cleared that up :) 20:14:40 <dihedral> you guys just crack me up today 20:14:43 <Ailure> Mew? 20:14:45 <peter1138> so my thumbs hurt. does playing a console game seem a good idea? 20:14:50 <Ailure> wait wtf 20:14:50 <TrueBrain> just today? Then this channel really isn't what it once was :p 20:14:56 <TrueBrain> peter1138: yes 20:14:58 <knome> dihedral, yes we do crack you 20:15:11 * knome winks at dihedral 20:15:19 <TrueBrain> Ailure: what don't you understand? 20:15:22 <TrueBrain> which part exactly? 20:15:26 <TrueBrain> the math around 1%? :p 20:15:29 <Belugas> #we will 20:15:33 <Belugas> #we will rock you 20:15:40 <Ailure> I'm just being silly again 20:15:41 * TrueBrain gives Belugas some REAL music 20:15:50 <TrueBrain> Ailure: welcome to the club! :) 20:16:11 <Ailure> I'm very bored ATM 20:16:18 <TrueBrain> does it seem like we aren't? :) 20:16:22 <dihedral> knome: you scare me 20:16:22 <Ailure> yes, a very bored Automatic teller machine 20:16:36 <knome> dihedral, still had some open space in your ap.? ;D 20:16:51 <Belugas> TrueBrain, what? some pompiedom? 20:16:57 <TrueBrain> Belugas: YEAH! :) 20:16:59 <TrueBrain> hahaha :) 20:17:01 <Belugas> hehe 20:17:03 <peter1138> POMPIEDOMPIEDOM 20:17:08 <Belugas> lalala 20:17:10 <TrueBrain> you guys learn really fast :) 20:17:13 <knome> which pie? 20:17:16 <peter1138> # we will, we will pompiedom you 20:17:17 <TrueBrain> Not bad, for such old people :p 20:17:23 <peter1138> old? 20:17:25 <peter1138> i'm not old 20:17:28 <TrueBrain> currently I have k's choice running, much better 20:17:29 <knome> hehe 20:17:32 <knome> your nick is 20:17:33 <TrueBrain> peter1138: okay, you are just grey, my mistake 20:17:34 <Belugas> neither i am 20:17:35 <Belugas> wel... 20:17:40 <Belugas> in my heart at least 20:17:44 <peter1138> exactly 20:17:54 <TrueBrain> okay okay, I don't consider you guys old 20:17:57 <TrueBrain> just more mature then others 20:17:58 * peter1138 is 1D 20:17:59 <peter1138> hmm 20:18:01 <knome> Belugas, physically or mentally? 20:18:01 <Belugas> #all the young dudes 20:18:07 <peter1138> more mature? heh 20:18:20 <dihedral> maturity is pretty relative - is it not 20:18:32 <TrueBrain> dihedral: depends on your point of view :) 20:18:34 <peter1138> ah ha, i'm 21. in base 14... 20:18:36 <knome> of course it is 20:18:42 <dihedral> well - not when viewing women 20:18:44 <TrueBrain> !calc 1+1 20:18:44 <Belugas> knome, i wold say my body does not agree with my heart ;) 20:18:44 <_42_> TrueBrain: 2; 20:18:47 <Ailure> A/S/L? 20:18:48 <knome> hehe 20:18:51 <TrueBrain> !calc ibase=14; obase=10 21 20:18:52 <_42_> TrueBrain: (standard_in) 2: parse error; 20:18:55 <Ailure> !help 20:18:55 <TrueBrain> doh! 20:19:00 <dihedral> i could guess Belugas being "oldest" 20:19:05 <Ailure> !calc 5/0 20:19:05 <TrueBrain> !calc ibase=14; obase=10; 21 20:19:05 <Ailure> oh shi 20:19:07 <_42_> Ailure: Runtime error (func=(main), adr=5): Divide by zero; 20:19:09 <_42_> TrueBrain: 21; 20:19:15 <Ailure> Damn 20:19:16 <TrueBrain> I did something wrong :) 20:19:16 <Belugas> I'm 00101010 20:19:20 <Ailure> I thought the universe would explode 20:19:23 <Ailure> i'm disapointed 20:19:31 <knome> we all are 20:19:42 <dihedral> Belugas: think you are missing a zero there - towards the end :-) 20:19:49 <peter1138> Belugas: not _00101010_ ? 20:19:55 <Ailure> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLxMN5YMS3A 20:20:03 <Belugas> prrrrrrrrt! 20:20:10 <dihedral> *grin* 20:20:14 <TrueBrain> Belugas: if you loose one 0, you simple get: 0101010, which still is the same :) 20:20:28 <TrueBrain> (and looks funny :)) 20:20:50 <knome> looks like a message by a dork 20:20:51 <knome> ;) 20:20:56 <TrueBrain> !kick knome 20:21:00 <knome> hehe 20:21:34 <knome> well it's looks like some guy hitting 0 and 1 as fast as he can 20:21:43 <Belugas> i wold love to be 010101 20:21:49 <dihedral> on the odd keyboard 20:21:50 <TrueBrain> calling a part of a developers team dorks, most likely isn't the smartest :) 20:21:52 <Belugas> but the last zero just sticks to it... 20:21:59 <TrueBrain> Belugas: just shift right your age with 1 20:22:10 <peter1138> 10101 is about right 20:22:15 <knome> well i didn't call a developer a dork 20:22:20 <dihedral> Belugas: just dont listen to them - you are young at heart 20:22:21 <knome> just the message 20:22:23 <knome> ;) 20:22:31 <Belugas> yeah...left shift is the truth 20:22:37 <Belugas> yes i am! 20:22:38 <peter1138> 11101 :/ 20:22:40 <TrueBrain> Belugas: we love you anyway :) 20:22:45 <Belugas> furrrrrr 20:22:48 <Belugas> fuuuuurrrrrrrrr 20:22:58 <TrueBrain> I am just 11000 :) 20:23:18 <peter1138> # GET BACK 20:23:44 <dihedral> 18 20:23:50 <dihedral> in hex 20:24:13 <Belugas> staying in #openttd sure gives me back some youth :D 20:24:21 *** DorpsGek [truelight@openttd.org] has joined #openttd 20:24:21 <knome> lol 20:24:28 <dihedral> that's it - that is the right attitude 20:24:31 <TrueBrain> Belugas: logic :) 20:24:37 <TrueBrain> Ah, welcome DorpsGek 20:24:39 <dihedral> way to go old man 20:24:42 <dihedral> :-) 20:24:44 <TrueBrain> @openttd port 20:24:44 <DorpsGek> TrueBrain: OpenTTD uses TCP and UDP port 3979 for server <-> client communication and UDP port 3978 for masterserver (advsertise) communication (outbound) 20:25:08 <DorpsGek> burp 20:25:15 <dihedral> prost 20:25:17 <TrueBrain> ieuw, it smells 20:25:20 <dihedral> schultz 20:26:13 * TrueBrain pets DorpsGek 20:26:24 * DorpsGek prrrrrts 20:26:40 <dihedral> TrueBrain: I am just 11000 << what happend to the "we"? 20:27:11 <TrueBrain> dihedral: you just assumed I ment who ever was at this end, while in fact I ment a group of people within this channel which rather stays anonymous 20:27:22 <TrueBrain> and there is no reasno that they should all be in the same binary age 20:27:33 <dihedral> no - i assumed you had some other problem 20:27:41 <TrueBrain> I only have solutions 20:27:56 <knome> I only have problems - TrueBrain, will you marry me? 20:28:06 *** mode/#openttd [+o DorpsGek] by Rubidium 20:28:19 <TrueBrain> knome: no 20:28:23 <dihedral> ok - that's it - i may officially anounce not being the person with some gender issues 20:28:27 <knome> oh no 20:28:33 <peter1138> yawnness 20:28:34 <knome> we would've been a perfect couple 20:28:50 <dihedral> that is just sick man 20:28:55 <knome> me? 20:29:00 <dihedral> yeah 20:29:01 <TrueBrain> @kick knome 20:29:01 *** knome was kicked from #openttd by DorpsGek [TrueBrain] 20:29:11 <TrueBrain> tnx Rubidium :) 20:29:11 *** knome [~knome@a88-112-229-131.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 20:29:13 <knome> lol 20:29:15 <knome> just bored 20:29:18 <peter1138> you kick the chicks :( 20:29:30 <TrueBrain> lol @ peter1138 20:29:32 <knome> chicks? where? 20:29:36 <dihedral> i kicked the only wirdo 20:29:37 <peter1138> at least, i assume knome is a chick, dressed like that 20:29:45 *** maad [~emade@tk202.azylnet.com] has quit [] 20:29:47 <knome> ;) 20:29:57 <knome> well ok, i'll try to behave 20:29:59 <dihedral> like i said: wierdo 20:30:27 <dihedral> :-P 20:30:36 <Rubidium> dihedral: there is only one real Weirdo and you haven't kicked him ;) 20:31:00 <dihedral> i never said i kicked anybody :-P 20:31:10 <dihedral> oh 20:31:12 <dihedral> i did 20:31:13 <dihedral> well 20:31:13 <knome> heh 20:31:15 <dihedral> ... 20:31:18 <dihedral> look at that 20:31:28 <knome> even the best of us make mistakes 20:31:30 <dihedral> it was meant to say "he" 20:31:43 <dihedral> at least you consider me "best" 20:32:12 <knome> well i didn't say that :) 20:32:20 <dihedral> not exactly, no 20:32:29 <dihedral> but close enough 20:32:49 <peter1138> oh damn, i forgot to test my chan_sccp mod :/ 20:33:29 <knome> i should be sleeping 20:33:38 <TrueBrain> @kick knome go sleeping 20:33:39 *** knome was kicked from #openttd by DorpsGek [go sleeping] 20:33:42 <dihedral> btw - just in case you devs have not read some stuff 20:33:49 *** knome [~knome@a88-112-229-131.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 20:33:51 <Sacro|Laptop> @kick Sacro|Laptop hmmm 20:33:56 <Sacro|Laptop> damn :( 20:33:57 <Belugas> we read all day long 20:33:57 <dihedral> 0.5.1RC2 seg faults if the res is below 10,10 20:34:00 <knome> TrueBrain, ? 20:34:06 <TrueBrain> @kick Sacro|Laptop hmmm 20:34:07 *** Sacro|Laptop was kicked from #openttd by DorpsGek [hmmm] 20:34:10 <knome> what was that for 20:34:15 <TrueBrain> kicking Sacro is always a pleasure 20:34:16 *** Sacro|Laptop [~ben@adsl-87-102-80-216.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 20:34:21 <Sacro|Laptop> ^_^ it worked 20:34:21 <dihedral> lol 20:34:23 <TrueBrain> knome: you said you wanted to go to sleep 20:34:23 <peter1138> @kick DorpsGek hurr 20:34:26 <TrueBrain> I have no problems with that :) 20:34:31 <Rubidium> @deop me 20:34:32 <DorpsGek> Rubidium: Error: me is not in #openttd. 20:34:35 <TrueBrain> @op peter1138 20:34:35 *** mode/#openttd [+o peter1138] by DorpsGek 20:34:39 <knome> so is that a reason to kick me out of the chan? 20:34:41 <Sacro|Laptop> @op Sacro|Laptop 20:34:46 * Sacro|Laptop wants to be op'd 20:34:48 <TrueBrain> knome: for me it is :) 20:34:57 <knome> ok, i'll go 20:35:00 <TrueBrain> NOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooo 20:35:01 <TrueBrain> stay 20:35:01 <knome> and never come back! 20:35:10 <TrueBrain> you are the least part of female interaction we have here :p :p 20:35:13 <dihedral> would be awsome if openttd would even take values below 10,10 or at least use a lowest available value 20:35:25 <dihedral> without seg faulting as soon as a client connects 20:35:39 <Rubidium> dihedral: it's already fixed... 20:35:43 <knome> well i don't the point of kicking people out of a chan without a reason 20:35:50 <dihedral> for the next RC? 20:35:52 <TrueBrain> knome: your problem :p 20:35:53 <Rubidium> just not backported to branches/0.5 20:36:08 <dihedral> well - it was fixed in 0.5.0 final 20:36:13 <knome> that's just some selfish moderation 20:36:15 <Rubidium> and nobody has had time to do some release 20:36:16 <dihedral> i used a 1,1 there 20:36:18 <peter1138> 21:32 < dihedral> would be awsome if openttd would even take values below 10,10 or at least use a lowest available value 20:36:21 <peter1138> feh 20:36:25 *** knome [~knome@a88-112-229-131.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has left #openttd [] 20:36:32 <dihedral> it's a pleasure 20:36:35 <peter1138> for a proper fix, you want the dedicated server to NOT DRAW ANYTHING 20:36:37 <Rubidium> dihedral: it still was buggy in 0.5.0 20:36:46 <dihedral> ah - ok 20:36:51 <dihedral> yeah i do peter1138 20:36:54 <dihedral> :-D 20:36:56 <Rubidium> only for some reason nobody has ever noticed it 20:37:05 <dihedral> i never had an issue with it 20:37:06 *** Tron_ is now known as Tron 20:37:16 <dihedral> 0.5.0 final ran for me nonstop 20:37:29 <dihedral> until i updated to rc2 today 20:37:34 <Belugas> Hello mister Tron 20:37:41 <peter1138> yeah, we couldn't have that in a x.x.0 20:37:49 <dihedral> :-) 20:37:55 <peter1138> MR T. 20:38:09 <dihedral> "i pitty the fool" 20:38:24 <Rubidium> dihedral: the fact that it didn't crash in 0.5.0 is basically 'magic' 20:38:34 <dihedral> hmmm. 20:38:41 <TrueBrain> just a bit of luck 20:38:45 <TrueBrain> and without luck, no life 20:38:46 <TrueBrain> :) 20:38:48 <dihedral> can you add some magic to 0.5.1 20:38:57 <dihedral> :-P 20:39:02 <Rubidium> no 20:39:02 <Belugas> i'm tired... everytime i see a new line in here, i've got a song popping up in my head... 20:39:13 <Rubidium> oh no 20:39:20 <dihedral> what song..? 20:39:22 <Rubidium> Belugas seems to be running Windows 9x 20:39:28 <Belugas> here is goes agin... 20:39:29 <dihedral> hehe 20:39:42 * TrueBrain hugs Belugas 20:39:46 <dihedral> ha 20:39:51 <dihedral> and i dont get one 20:39:55 <dihedral> that aint fair 20:40:02 <dihedral> :-( 20:40:08 <dihedral> *sulking* 20:40:26 <Belugas> TrueBrain and me have a long history :) 20:40:32 <Belugas> don't be jealous 20:40:44 <dihedral> pft 20:40:57 <peter1138> hmm 20:40:58 *** MeusH [~MeusH@host-ip195-138.crowley.pl] has joined #openttd 20:40:58 *** HMage [~HMage@85.21.179.62] has joined #openttd 20:41:08 <MeusH> hello 20:41:13 <dihedral> dont interrupt peter1138 20:41:15 <peter1138> i wonder if Pocket Symphony is any good 20:41:20 <peter1138> yes, don't interrupt me 20:41:27 <dihedral> ... 20:41:30 <dihedral> shoot 20:41:39 * peter1138 aims 20:41:45 <peter1138> FOR THE STARS 20:41:52 <dihedral> pfew 20:41:59 <Belugas> the Nineth one ain't bad, peter1138 :) 20:42:04 <dihedral> i thought for a second i had to crouch or something 20:42:11 <peter1138> Lost Message? 20:42:23 <Belugas> no... Symphony! 20:42:29 <peter1138> oh 20:42:31 <peter1138> a joke 20:42:33 <peter1138> ho ho ho 20:42:35 <peter1138> :) 20:42:38 <dihedral> lol 20:42:47 <Belugas> :) 20:42:49 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1FA71.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:43:05 <peter1138> http://www.hmv.co.uk/hmvweb/displayProductDetails.do?ctx=280;-1;-1;-1&sku=608396 20:43:14 <peter1138> strange you are ell 20:43:25 <dihedral> i shall hit the rack guys 20:43:35 <peter1138> don't 20:43:39 <peter1138> you'll mess up the servers in it 20:43:46 <dihedral> lol 20:43:51 <dihedral> that's a nice one 20:43:58 <peter1138> besides 20:44:01 <peter1138> it's hit the SAC 20:44:04 <peter1138> errr 20:44:04 <dihedral> anyway - i can feel gravety with my eye lids 20:44:05 <peter1138> SACK 20:44:11 <peter1138> not SAC, because she's cool 20:44:23 <dihedral> would that not hurt 20:44:29 <MeusH> excuse me, where is STR_RAIL_VEHICLE_NOT_AVAILABLE used in-game? 20:44:46 <dihedral> the answer lies in your question 20:44:48 <dihedral> in the game 20:44:58 <dihedral> sorry - after tired comes silly 20:45:08 <Belugas> that sounds interesting , Air stuff 20:45:19 <peter1138> MeusH: when (trying) to build a rail vehicle 20:45:21 <dihedral> my word - i even messed that one up 20:45:26 <MeusH> I don't have acces to the code and I'm unable to verify it myself 20:45:48 <dihedral> oh - no - it was the right way around... 20:45:55 <dihedral> flip 20:46:05 <MeusH> peter1138, so this is visible when somehow a vehicle is visible and selectable (and should not)? 20:46:18 <peter1138> something like that 20:46:26 <peter1138> its main cause is 1) hacked client 20:46:40 <peter1138> and 2) trying to clone a vehicle that has 'expired' 20:46:52 <MeusH> aha 20:46:55 <MeusH> thank you 20:47:15 <MeusH> the translations are fixed now. I hope my absence didn't cause problems. Did it? 20:47:23 <peter1138> oh, you were away? 20:47:38 <MeusH> my house was being painted 20:47:45 <peter1138> is it green? 20:47:45 <MeusH> I was told it would take 3 days 20:47:52 <MiHaMiX> lol 20:47:55 <MeusH> no, it's more yellow 20:48:01 <MeusH> and it took over 10 days 20:48:26 <MeusH> and the painters (or whatever they're called) say they will finish after easter 20:48:46 <MeusH> but my lovely internet connection is back, and I can live happily :) 20:48:46 <MiHaMiX> MeusH: i received countless complaints about your absence.. next time please tell me at least 2 years in advance of any absence which is longer than 1 day :D 20:49:02 <peter1138> OR YOU'RE SACKED, SON 20:49:12 <MiHaMiX> peter1138: :P 20:49:13 <MeusH> anyway, how's OpenTTD? I see RC2 is close :) 20:49:36 <MeusH> oh noes! 20:49:37 <MiHaMiX> MeusH: OpenTTD 0.5.1-RC2 20:49:37 <MiHaMiX> Friday, March 23rd 2007 23:45 GMT - posted by Rubidium 20:49:53 <Rubidium> MiHaMiX: now you spoiled my joke... 20:50:04 <MeusH> oh, bad me 20:50:05 <MiHaMiX> Rubidium: which one? :-(( 20:50:18 <Rubidium> "RC2 is close and getting further away by the minute" 20:50:24 <MiHaMiX> Rubidium: :DDDDDDDDDD 20:50:29 <MeusH> :D awesome 20:50:38 <MiHaMiX> Rubidium: rofl 20:51:26 <Belugas> #Going home Late Last night 20:51:34 <Belugas> #Suddenly I had a fright 20:51:35 <MiHaMiX> Belugas: gn 20:51:38 <dihedral> going to bed: now 20:51:38 <Belugas> Good Night! 20:51:46 <peter1138> damn 20:51:51 <dihedral> cu 20:51:55 <dihedral> have a fun evening 20:52:01 <dihedral> or day 20:52:11 <MiHaMiX> dihedral: have a nice dream :) 20:52:31 <dihedral> ok 20:52:34 <MeusH> good night Belugas 20:52:51 <MeusH> or dihedral 20:52:56 <MeusH> or both of you :p 20:53:01 <dihedral> good night... dont let the bed bugs bite... 20:53:02 <Ailure> mm 20:53:08 <Ailure> I love this winamp plugin 20:53:15 <Ailure> it plays midi music like a old FM synth 20:53:24 <dihedral> yeah - great 20:53:48 <dihedral> that is why i buy high qality music :-) 20:53:56 <dihedral> to listen to it in an old style :-P 20:54:00 <dihedral> na - just kidding 20:54:05 <Ailure> heh 20:54:06 <dihedral> excuse my sarcasm 20:54:06 <Ailure> weöö 20:54:16 <Ailure> some midi songs actually sound better under a old FM synth :p 20:54:45 <dihedral> well - and midi is not the most recent format anyway 20:54:51 <dihedral> so it does make sense :-D 20:55:11 <dihedral> ok 20:55:15 <dihedral> i need to get to bed 20:55:17 <dihedral> cu guys 20:55:21 <MeusH> cya 20:55:25 *** dihedral [~dihedral@dslb-084-056-249-167.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.77 [Firefox 2.0.0.3/2007030919]] 21:01:58 <HMage> well, midi is still used in professional audio field :) 21:04:19 <peter1138> i 'need' to get a midi keyboard 21:05:31 <Ailure> Midi is not bad 21:05:36 <Ailure> but I either want realistic instrument 21:05:39 <Ailure> or a old FM synth 21:05:45 <Ailure> everything inbetween sounds kinda strange :p 21:05:49 <MeusH> goodnight 21:06:04 <Ailure> I know that some pros do have soundfonts that sounds like real instruments 21:06:12 * peter1138 has no room for a piano :/ 21:07:03 <HMage> Ailure: you're putting into the meaning of 'midi' that you hear the soundbanks from standard windows installation, which is (C) 1996 Roland Corporation, and stores 128 instruments in little tiny 3 Mb. 21:08:16 <HMage> midi in professional audio is used to drive either sample-based instruments, or instruments synthesized in real-time. A typical piano that sounds OK for me weighs about 2.5Gb in samples. 21:08:48 <peter1138> hmm 21:08:54 <peter1138> where do i get those samples :D 21:09:04 <ln-> and a collection of such instruments costs several thousand euros 21:09:06 <HMage> buy native instruments akoustik piano :D 21:10:13 <peter1138> hmm 21:10:16 *** Tron [~tron@p54a3d510.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Client exiting] 21:10:31 <HMage> in case you wonder, I'm reacting (a bit pointlessly) to a dihedral's statement that midi is not recent format so it should sound bad (FM synth). 21:10:32 <peter1138> then i need the keyboard :/ 21:10:45 <HMage> to dihedral's* 21:10:55 <Ailure> Hey 21:10:56 <peter1138> HMage: yes. i would've, if i could be bothered :) 21:10:58 <Ailure> FM synths are awesome 21:11:00 <Ailure> well old ones at least 21:11:09 *** Tron [~tron@p54A3D510.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:11:22 <HMage> yeah, Access Virus FM synth still costs 25000$ :) 21:11:39 <HMage> maybe less, maybe more, I don't remember exactly 21:12:10 <peter1138> hmm, EUR299 for "akoustik piano" 21:12:36 <HMage> nah, sorry, my mistake, access virus doesn't use FM 21:12:45 <HMage> it uses other oscillator-based methods 21:13:34 <peter1138> http://thirdeyedumb.com/2007/04/egg_stacker.html 21:13:51 <HMage> omg 21:14:06 <HMage> brb 21:14:53 *** HMage [~HMage@85.21.179.62] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:15:29 <Rubidium> peter1138: is that with or without the use of glue? 21:17:14 <Ailure> glue made with the right han 21:18:01 *** HMage [~HMage@85.21.179.62] has joined #openttd 21:18:08 <Ailure> oh god 21:18:14 <Ailure> the aircraft goes so atrocitly slow 21:18:25 <Ailure> when I go back to 0.5.0 after playing nightlies 21:18:31 *** Zuu [~leif@c-0c3c71d5.025-58-6e6b702.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 21:19:45 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host137-229-dynamic.5-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:19:45 *** Rens2Sea [~Rens2Sea@213.211.185.168] has quit [] 21:21:23 * HMage is back 21:25:33 *** Sacro|Laptop [~ben@adsl-87-102-80-216.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:27:15 *** Sacro [~Ben@adsl-87-102-80-216.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 21:29:29 <Brianetta> Ailure: My server used to be known as "Brianetta's Nightly" 21:30:01 <Ailure> Yeah, I knew you used to run a nightly server 21:30:07 <Ailure> but that was before i got into multiplayer << 21:30:51 *** green-devil [~c@0x5731e55b.vgnxx6.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit [] 21:33:00 <Sacro> and it was the best nightly server ever 21:42:49 <Ailure> heh 21:43:53 <Ailure> I might attempt making one, although 'upgrades' probably would be done semi-manually 21:44:03 <Ailure> so there won't be a upgrade for a comment added somewhere :p 21:45:16 *** Thomas[NL] [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:46:06 <Rubidium> Ailure: why not upgrade whatever changes were made? Makes it much clearer for the end-users what version to use 21:46:28 <Ailure> hmm 21:46:40 <Ailure> true I guess 21:51:11 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host231-235-dynamic.4-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 21:51:45 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: rubidium * r9554 /trunk/src/ (7 files): -Documentation: add documentation to some map accessors. 21:56:58 *** ChrisM87 [~ChrisM@p54ac516d.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:02:45 * HMage reboots the world 22:02:45 *** XeryusTC [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has quit [Quit: Solong, and thanks for all the fish.] 22:08:48 *** MeusH [~MeusH@host-ip195-138.crowley.pl] has quit [Quit: bye - quit] 22:10:41 <Brianetta> I always updated 22:10:51 <Brianetta> It drew complaints for som e 22:11:10 <Brianetta> "Why do I have to download a new nightly just for some Lithuanian texts?" 22:11:25 <Brianetta> but it's either a nightly server, or it isn't. 22:11:59 <Rubidium> "Because person Y likes to play with Lithuanina texts" ;) 22:12:20 <Ailure> it's no like 22:12:26 <Brianetta> So, every evening at 8 o'clock I ran my script, which told me whether there was a new nightly, and if so, updated my SVN checkout, compiled it, and informed me. I'd then close the game, and reload. 22:12:29 <Ailure> there's not much effort to overwrite the latest binaries 22:13:39 *** e1ko [~L@a02-0432b.kn.vutbr.cz] has quit [Quit: bye, Im going off] 22:14:04 <Ailure> Well I mostly want a server with TTRS3 and UKRS :) 22:32:00 <Wolf01> 'night all 22:32:05 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host231-235-dynamic.4-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [] 22:40:00 *** setrodox__ [~setrodox@85-124-46-17.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:48:17 *** Tobin [~Tobin@c58-107-50-36.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 22:50:38 *** Frostregen_ [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-142-250.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 22:51:23 *** Tobin [~Tobin@c58-107-50-36.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [] 22:51:37 *** Osai^zZz [~Osai@pd9eb4fce.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 22:51:53 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1FA71.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:51:56 *** Osai^zZz is now known as Osai 22:52:45 *** Osai [~Osai@pd9eb4fce.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:52:50 *** Osai^zZz [~Osai@pD9EB4FCE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 22:52:58 *** Osai^zZz is now known as Osai 22:55:57 *** ammler_ [~ammler@adsl-84-227-45-141.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 22:56:07 *** ammler [~ammler@adsl-84-227-45-141.adslplus.ch] has quit [Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by ammler_))] 22:56:11 *** ammler_ is now known as Ammler 22:56:18 *** Frostregen [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-108-215.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:56:48 *** Frostregen_ is now known as Frostregen 23:04:24 *** Tobin [~Tobin@c58-107-50-36.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 23:32:54 *** PandaMojo_ [~chatzilla@ip72-197-231-130.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #openttd 23:37:55 *** PandaMojo [~chatzilla@ip72-197-231-130.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:38:07 *** PandaMojo_ is now known as PandaMojo 23:54:49 <Digitalfox[Home]> Is there a way in config file, to make Openttd use more RAM and less CPU?? 23:56:37 <Digitalfox[Home]> And disabling sound and music makes a big difrence in CPU used?