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00:00:49 <Bjarni> This article or section is able to see into The Future. <-- great page 00:00:57 <Bjarni> but it lacks winning lotto numbers 00:01:23 <Eddi|zuHause> 4,8,15,16,23,42 :p 00:01:50 <glx> these numbers are dangerous 00:02:27 <Bjarni> http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Infinity 00:02:55 <Sacro> http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Denmark 00:03:08 <Eddi|zuHause> i think i read somewhere that these numbers were actually drawn in australia, but too many picked them, so everybody just got very little :p 00:03:56 <Sacro> The main exports of Denmark are Great Danes, plastic bricks, salted herring, plastic bricks, meatballs, bacon, butter cookies, plastic bricks, windmills, ceramic car bumpers, pastries, plastic bricks, Andersens, Christensens, Jensens, dodgy footballers, plastic bricks and expensive deadly alcohol. They are also said to have been the founding fathers of Danish Pastry, even though most Danes don't actually have a clue on what it is (and tho 00:03:56 <Sacro> se who do blame it on Vienna). 00:04:18 *** Diabolic1Angel [~dia@xdsl-84-44-135-91.netcologne.de] has joined #openttd 00:04:47 <Bjarni> An integer is a number that can be counted on fingers and toes. [...] For integers greater than 13, you may need a few friends with clean feet to help you count. 00:05:10 <Bjarni> Sacro: do you have clean feet? 00:05:15 *** Diabolic1Angel [~dia@xdsl-84-44-135-91.netcologne.de] has quit [] 00:05:34 <Sacro> If you climb a very, very high tree you will be able to see Moscow from Denmark. 00:05:52 <Bjarni> well 00:05:58 <Bjarni> we DO have some tall trees 00:07:08 <Bjarni> when that no-good Nelson destroyed our fleet, the king ordered a whole lot of trees planted so the kingdom could get new masts for the ships. Those trees are ready to be turned into masts NOW 00:07:25 <Bjarni> not 20 years ago, but now 00:07:48 <Bjarni> oddly enough, even though they were meant for the navy, they don't want them :s 00:09:32 <svip> * Earth's magnetic poles mysteriously reverse positions. USA wakes up to discover that it is now in South America. 00:10:15 *** Digitalfox_Notebook [~chatzilla@bl4-208-2.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:10:28 *** Digitalfox_Notebook [~chatzilla@bl4-208-2.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 00:10:50 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@xdsl-84-44-224-204.netcologne.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:10:53 <Bjarni> it wouldn't matter. They can't find it on a map anyway 00:11:03 <Eddi|zuHause> that's a really problematic thing about forests, whoever plants them, has absolutely no benefit from them 00:11:11 <svip> * Space elevator is used by extremely lazy aliens to invade Earth 00:11:11 <svip> * Canada conquers the earth; the USA is exiled to Uranus. 00:11:37 *** Nickman [~nn@d54C1C327.access.telenet.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:11:42 <Eddi|zuHause> is that the uncyclopedia edition of "in the year 2000"? 00:11:54 <svip> No. 00:12:02 <svip> The "Oh, a long ways off" 00:16:27 *** Nickman [~nn@d54C1C327.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 00:16:31 <Bjarni> goodnight people of #openttd 00:16:43 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x535ca25f.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:16:44 <Sacro> goodnight Bjarni of denmark 00:18:55 *** Nickman [~nn@d54C1C327.access.telenet.be] has quit [] 00:23:50 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:29:02 *** glx|away [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 00:29:04 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx|away] by ChanServ 00:32:40 *** De_Ghost [~De_Ghost@CPE0050ba8caf2c-CM0011aec4b06a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:34:08 *** De_Ghost [InfoBot@CPE0050ba8caf2c-CM0011aec4b06a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #openttd 00:34:25 *** Ammlller [~Ammler@adsl-84-227-184-83.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 00:34:35 *** elmex [~elmex@e180067091.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:34:44 *** plaes [~plaes@ns.store20.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:35:00 *** plaes [~plaes@ns.store20.com] has joined #openttd 00:35:12 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:38:33 *** Ammller [~Ammler@adsl-84-227-184-83.adslplus.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:45:21 *** Ben_1 [~Ben@82.152.197.172] has joined #openttd 00:45:30 *** glx|away is now known as glx 00:52:07 *** _Ben_ [~Ben@82.152.197.172] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:52:51 *** SmatZ [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 00:57:53 <Ben_1> Hi, would anybody who is around happen to know (or be able to estimate) how long an intercity 125 engine is? 00:58:07 *** Ben_1 is now known as _Ben_ 01:07:33 <Sacro> about yay long 01:08:08 <_Ben_> is that in feet or metres? 01:08:46 <Sacro> 17.79 x 2.71 m 01:08:58 <_Ben_> sweet, thankyou 01:08:58 <Sacro> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Class_43#Factfile 01:09:17 <_Ben_> ah right, I didn't know enough about the train to find that page, I did read a lot, but failed to find what I wanted 01:10:22 <Sacro> hehe 01:10:26 <Sacro> is a beautiful engine 01:15:18 *** Ammlller [~Ammler@adsl-84-227-184-83.adslplus.ch] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 01:18:04 <_Ben_> It is quite cool, although I'm not really into trains. I'm just messing with scaling, I'll post in a miniut 01:22:09 *** ITSBTH_ [~e@host-81-191-171-43.bluecom.no] has joined #openttd 01:22:09 *** ITSBTH [~e@host-81-191-171-43.bluecom.no] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:25:46 <Smoovious> not into trains?! 01:25:54 <Smoovious> Blasphemy! BAN HIM!!! 01:28:08 <_Ben_> ha, they have caused me to much hassel in the past, its a personal thing 01:28:38 <Sacro> hassle 01:31:04 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B7784F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 01:37:00 <_Ben_> http://www.tt-forums.net/download.php?id=77652 < Sacro: Just needed to check the scaling on that, that's why I asked. 01:37:23 <Sacro> :o 01:37:30 <Sacro> hehe 01:37:32 <Sacro> i like the bottom one 01:37:40 <Sacro> its like a model railwayh 01:37:50 <Sacro> narrow gauge hst! 01:37:51 <_Ben_> yeah...its the big ones son 01:37:55 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B760C8.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:46:11 *** Digitalfox_Notebook [~chatzilla@bl4-208-2.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.5/2007071317]] 02:05:12 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: bye] 02:23:13 *** ITSBTH [~e@host-81-191-171-43.bluecom.no] has joined #openttd 02:23:13 *** ITSBTH_ [~e@host-81-191-171-43.bluecom.no] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:25:06 <Eddi|zuHause2> i love the detail, i don't know what the devs have against high zoomm... 02:25:31 <Eddi|zuHause2> but changing scale is not trivial 02:26:38 *** Smoovious [~imp486@c-71-205-140-67.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Always code as if the guy who ends up maintaining your code is a psychopath who knows where you live.] 02:26:44 <_Ben_> yeah, I'm shore they have very good reasons for there opinions, hopefully an agreed goal can be settled on soon. Anyway, night. 03:21:49 *** nairan_zzZZ [~Maui_key@p5498D8F1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 03:21:50 *** nairan [~Maui_key@p5498D54E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:24:13 *** ITSBTH_ [~e@host-81-191-171-43.bluecom.no] has joined #openttd 03:24:13 *** ITSBTH [~e@host-81-191-171-43.bluecom.no] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:05:31 *** MiHaMeK [~miham@xenon.bibl.u-szeged.hu] has joined #openttd 04:08:00 *** MiHaMiX [~miham@xenon.bibl.u-szeged.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:39:49 *** Nitehawk [~nitehawk@c-98-200-106-108.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:40:54 *** Nitehawk [~nitehawk@c-98-200-106-108.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 05:55:00 *** Osai^2 [~Osai@pD9EB7CB6.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Osai^2] 06:05:42 *** XeryusTC [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has joined #openttd 06:20:58 *** raimar2 [~hawk@p5489CF51.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:22:40 *** MarkSlap [~shit@h16n1c1o1114.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #openttd 06:23:09 <MarkSlap> Hello 06:23:24 <MarkSlap> Someone who has started a new game that I can join? :) 06:23:32 <MarkSlap> (OTTD 0.5.2) 06:24:29 <MarkSlap> Oh 06:24:39 <MarkSlap> Find alot on the site :D 06:25:13 <Noldo> good for you 06:30:41 <MarkSlap> ^^ 06:45:23 *** ITSBTH [~e@host-81-191-171-43.bluecom.no] has joined #openttd 06:45:23 *** ITSBTH_ [~e@host-81-191-171-43.bluecom.no] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:49:18 *** plaes_ [~plaes@ns.store20.com] has joined #openttd 06:49:19 *** plaes [~plaes@ns.store20.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:03:45 *** Greyscale [~greyscale@host86-152-50-116.range86-152.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:05:32 *** BobingAbout [~BobingAbo@adsl-83-100-228-83.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 07:05:50 *** BobingAbout [~BobingAbo@adsl-83-100-228-83.karoo.KCOM.COM] has left #openttd [] 07:14:41 *** SpComb^_ [terom@zapotek.paivola.fi] has joined #openttd 07:15:06 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-164-69.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 07:16:38 *** SpComb [terom@zapotek.paivola.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:25:12 *** mikl [~mikl@0x57372ee2.mrbnqu1.broadband.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 07:26:24 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387C39B.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 07:32:45 *** elmex [~elmex@e180066195.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 07:37:20 *** Farden [jk3farden@81.56.247.196] has joined #openttd 07:38:39 *** TinoM| [~Tino@i5387C39B.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 07:38:45 *** TinoM| [~Tino@i5387C39B.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:40:33 *** TinoM| [~Tino@i5387C39B.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 07:41:43 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387C39B.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:50:08 *** You're now known as SpComb 07:54:12 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x535ca25f.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 07:54:15 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 07:56:05 *** SpBot [terom@zapotekII.paivola.fi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:56:12 *** SpBot [terom@zapotekII.paivola.fi] has joined #openttd 08:06:14 *** Alltaken [~chatzilla@121-72-235-8.cable.telstraclear.net] has joined #openttd 08:07:16 *** ITSBTH [~e@host-81-191-171-43.bluecom.no] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:07:22 *** ITSBTH [~e@host-81-191-171-43.bluecom.no] has joined #openttd 08:15:26 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 08:20:59 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-89-217-144-147.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 08:27:12 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 08:34:21 *** Mucht [~Mucht@p57A0F521.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 08:42:55 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@212.24.150.226] has joined #openttd 08:47:21 *** ITSBTH [~e@host-81-191-171-43.bluecom.no] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:47:24 *** ITSBTH [~e@host-81-191-171-43.bluecom.no] has joined #openttd 08:49:58 *** scia [~scia@85.149.96.102] has joined #openttd 09:04:46 *** Alltaken [~chatzilla@121-72-235-8.cable.telstraclear.net] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.6/2007072518]] 09:06:36 *** TinoM| [~Tino@i5387C39B.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 09:08:06 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387C39B.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 09:12:27 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1EF6F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 09:31:24 *** prakti [~prakti@port-213-148-152-8.static.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 09:51:31 *** michi_cc-away is now known as michi_cc 10:26:39 *** prakti [~prakti@port-213-148-152-8.static.qsc.de] has quit [Quit: Quitting .... Hackedi...hackedi...weg.] 10:40:48 *** Greyscale [~greyscale@host86-152-50-116.range86-152.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 10:42:12 <Greyscale> Damn you openttd 10:42:26 <Greyscale> I keep thinking the delete key will minimise all my windows! 10:49:24 *** scia [~scia@85.149.96.102] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:49:36 *** scia [~scia@85.149.96.102] has joined #openttd 10:50:37 *** Dark_Link^sleep is now known as Dark_Link^skola 11:00:20 <alex_> never knew that 11:00:30 <alex_> is a there a hotkey to close all windows? 11:04:01 <ln-> del 11:07:06 *** Mizipzor [Mizipzor@camembert.byh.bth.se] has joined #openttd 11:10:02 <Eddi|zuHause2> Greyscale: it gets worse if you think the F1 key (un)pauses applications :p 11:10:29 <Greyscale> heh 11:10:57 * Greyscale has aliased del to minimise his windows 11:11:26 *** Ben_1 [~Ben@82.153.11.185] has joined #openttd 11:18:33 *** _Ben_ [~Ben@82.152.197.172] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:19:10 *** De_Ghost [InfoBot@CPE0050ba8caf2c-CM0011aec4b06a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:19:32 *** De_Ghost [InfoBot@CPE0050ba8caf2c-CM0011aec4b06a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #openttd 11:32:29 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 11:34:29 *** ITSBTH_ [~e@host-81-191-171-43.bluecom.no] has joined #openttd 11:34:29 *** ITSBTH [~e@host-81-191-171-43.bluecom.no] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:37:12 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-89-217-144-147.adslplus.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:40:07 *** Mizipzor [Mizipzor@camembert.byh.bth.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:42:57 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-193-46-fixip.tiscali.ch] has joined #openttd 11:43:19 *** Mucht [~Mucht@p57A0F521.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 11:44:33 *** eQualizer [~lauri@dyn15-194.dsl.spy.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:46:08 *** mikl [~mikl@0x57372ee2.mrbnqu1.broadband.tele.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:46:33 *** mikl [~mikl@91.143.118.142] has joined #openttd 11:47:04 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@xdsl-84-44-233-197.netcologne.de] has joined #openttd 11:47:20 *** Diabolic1Angel [~dia@xdsl-84-44-233-197.netcologne.de] has joined #openttd 11:47:22 *** Diabolic1Angel [~dia@xdsl-84-44-233-197.netcologne.de] has quit [] 11:56:57 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@ndb.demon.nl] has joined #openttd 12:08:09 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A6DED.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 12:15:22 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 12:15:23 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 12:19:36 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@xdsl-84-44-233-197.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 12:21:42 *** SmatZ [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has joined #openttd 12:28:57 *** Deathmaker [~Miranda@dslb-082-083-250-128.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 12:29:49 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@xdsl-84-44-233-197.netcologne.de] has joined #openttd 12:35:34 *** ITSBTH [~e@host-81-191-171-43.bluecom.no] has joined #openttd 12:35:34 *** ITSBTH_ [~e@host-81-191-171-43.bluecom.no] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:37:56 *** nairan_zzZZ is now known as nairan 12:37:59 <nairan> hmm 12:39:04 <Rubidium> hmhmm 12:39:52 <nairan> i noticed that at random game all mines of same type have same ammount of cargo output 12:40:33 <nairan> like all coal mines have 120t or iron has 90t 12:41:13 <Rubidium> luck 12:43:08 <nairan> well i made another game and same all miney of same cargotype have same output.. 12:43:16 <nairan> its not really random anyome 12:43:20 <nairan> anymore 12:45:47 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r11013 /trunk/src/ (station.h station_cmd.cpp): -Fix [FS#1171]: MoveGoodsToStation's search area is too small as it assumed a lower maximum catchment area than the real maximum catchment area. Based on a patch by PhilSophus. 12:48:33 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387C39B.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 12:49:20 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387C39B.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 12:49:46 *** mikl [~mikl@91.143.118.142] has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 12:49:46 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387C39B.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:50:02 <SmatZ> oh no, I ate too much :-x 12:50:10 <SmatZ> I feel I am going to explode 12:50:29 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387C39B.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 12:56:38 *** mikl [~mikl@91.143.118.142] has joined #openttd 12:58:05 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r11014 /trunk/src/vehicle.cpp: -Fix (r11011) [FS#1170]: crash when selling the first train of a consist. 12:58:58 *** KouDy [~KouDy@85.207.64.178] has joined #openttd 13:03:36 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A6DED.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [] 13:06:41 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r11015 /trunk/src/town_cmd.cpp: -Fix [FS#1166]: towns would build bridges through eachother. 13:11:26 <nairan> and also i just noticed that my rating dont go over 73% 13:11:47 <nairan> most time it stays at 69 and i use 2 trains a 5 wagons. 13:12:07 <glx> build a statue in the town 13:12:29 <nairan> magic? 13:12:51 <SmatZ> glx what is a statue good for? 13:12:59 <glx> increase rating 13:13:08 <SmatZ> nice, didn't know that! 13:13:17 <Noldo> which rating? 13:13:36 <SmatZ> in TTO, you could build unlimited number of statues :) 13:13:44 <SmatZ> so have whole city full of your statues 13:20:03 *** mikl [~mikl@91.143.118.142] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:20:17 <svip> :( Aw. 13:20:24 <svip> No function to find a station within the area. 13:20:35 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-164-69.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: ThePizzaKing] 13:20:37 *** mikl [~mikl@91.143.118.142] has joined #openttd 13:25:57 <svip> Is it possible to get all tiles within a specific radius? 13:26:00 *** De_Ghost [InfoBot@CPE0050ba8caf2c-CM0011aec4b06a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:26:08 *** De_Ghost [InfoBot@CPE0050ba8caf2c-CM0011aec4b06a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #openttd 13:26:30 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB7D7E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 13:29:00 *** Mucht [~Mucht@p57A0F521.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 13:33:36 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A4046.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 13:38:07 <nairan> magic? 13:38:15 <nairan> ups 13:38:28 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@212.24.150.226] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:39:42 <svip> Which catchment radius does airport uses? 13:41:30 <Rubidium> depends on the airport and catchment settings 13:41:47 <svip> Ah. 13:42:37 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d51A43614.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 13:56:59 <svip> Hm, Rubidium. 13:57:05 <svip> What catchment radius does industries have? 13:59:12 *** frosch123 [~mtce@pascal.math.tu-clausthal.de] has joined #openttd 14:00:01 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@xdsl-84-44-233-197.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 14:01:12 <Eddi|zuHause2> none 14:01:41 <svip> Right. 14:05:55 <svip> How do I fix this problem? 14:05:55 *** Ben_1 is now known as _Ben_ 14:05:56 <svip> src/zoning_cmd.cpp:162: warning: comparison of unsigned expression < 0 is always false 14:06:03 <svip> I need to check if the variable is less than 0. 14:06:08 <svip> But I don't want it always to be false. 14:07:27 <glx> un unsigned var can't be less than 0 14:07:50 *** Greyscale [~greyscale@host86-152-50-116.range86-152.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:08:16 *** Dark_Link^skola is now known as Dark_Link^ 14:09:06 <svip> What if I subtract more than its value from it? 14:09:09 <svip> Then what does it become? 14:09:12 <svip> 0? 14:09:20 <svip> Or does it *wrap*? 14:09:23 <Rubidium> it wraps 14:09:27 <svip> :O Gasp! 14:10:08 <peter1138> why, you can just check the carry flag! 14:10:22 <SmatZ> :-) 14:10:54 <Eddi|zuHause2> instead of a-b<0 you can test a<b 14:14:33 *** elmex [~elmex@e180066195.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:17:52 *** mikl [~mikl@91.143.118.142] has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 14:18:44 *** mikl [~mikl@91.143.118.142] has joined #openttd 14:18:48 *** Greyscale [~greyscale@host86-152-50-116.range86-152.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 14:26:50 *** Greyscale [~greyscale@host86-152-50-116.range86-152.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:31:17 *** Farden [jk3farden@81.56.247.196] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )] 14:38:57 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B805B6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:40:33 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B80542.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 14:40:36 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 15:00:39 *** ITSBTH_ [~e@host-81-191-171-43.bluecom.no] has joined #openttd 15:00:39 *** ITSBTH [~e@host-81-191-171-43.bluecom.no] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:09:45 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-193-46-fixip.tiscali.ch] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 15:10:17 *** eQualizer [~lauri@dyn15-194.dsl.spy.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 15:12:05 *** frosch123 [~mtce@pascal.math.tu-clausthal.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:16:32 *** Dark_Link^ is now known as Dark_Link^alco 15:47:25 *** Mucht [~Mucht@p57A0F521.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 15:47:34 *** Mucht [~Mucht@p57A0F521.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:03:10 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@xdsl-84-44-233-197.netcologne.de] has joined #openttd 16:06:44 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 16:13:11 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A4046.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [] 16:13:20 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@ndb.demon.nl] has quit [Quit: bbl :)] 16:17:55 *** Greyscale [~greyscale@host86-131-37-73.range86-131.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 16:23:17 *** BobingAbout [~BobingAbo@adsl-83-100-228-83.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 16:23:19 *** BobingAbout [~BobingAbo@adsl-83-100-228-83.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [] 16:23:58 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host240-239-dynamic.15-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 16:24:06 *** Deathmaker [~Miranda@dslb-082-083-250-128.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:25:09 <Wolf01> hello 16:26:28 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-89-217-144-147.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 16:36:40 <SmatZ> hi 16:37:03 *** lolman [~lolman@adsl-87-102-80-216.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:37:45 *** Sacro [~Sacro@adsl-87-102-80-216.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:42:01 *** Sacro [~Sacro@adsl-87-102-80-216.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 16:42:17 *** lolman [~lolman@adsl-87-102-80-216.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 16:43:41 <nairan> ups 16:45:11 *** Smoovious [~imp486@c-71-205-140-67.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 16:49:01 <svip> :/ 16:49:03 <svip> In a for loop. 16:49:16 <svip> If I do continue; it will still perform the last part? 16:49:21 <svip> That would be similar to i++; 16:49:43 <glx> yes 16:50:09 <svip> :/ I am having an odd situation with my industry catchment zoning. 16:50:13 <svip> Let me show you some screenshots. 16:52:30 <svip> Check out these three images. 16:52:45 <svip> http://www.isarapix.com/pix45/1188579110.png :: http://www.isarapix.com/pix24/1188579120.png :: http://www.isarapix.com/pix11/1188579135.png 16:56:54 *** Smoovious [~imp486@c-71-205-140-67.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:04:25 <Noldo> I updated http://bugs.openttd.org/task/1149 again 17:05:11 <SmatZ> Rubidium: there is a patch included in http://bugs.openttd.org/task/1176 - 17:05:30 <SmatZ> it is a patch, not a modification for a client 17:05:39 <Bjarni> svip: interesting 17:05:45 <Rubidium> SmatZ: true, but it fixes a bug 17:06:18 <Rubidium> and patches are usually used for new features 17:06:35 <SmatZ> Rubidium: ahh... so when I post some bugreport including a patch, then it is a bugreport? and patch is for adding functionality? 17:06:38 <Bjarni> svip: I have an idea. How about making an overlay of tiles to show all tiles accepting a certain cargo type 17:06:44 <Bjarni> and also for pickup 17:06:56 <Rubidium> furthermore we easily overlook patches that fix bugs when they are marked as patches 17:07:24 <Rubidium> primarily because my flyspray 'setup' selects bug reports only by default 17:09:36 <Eddi|zuHause2> svip: i don't understand this "industry catchment"... what is it supposed to show, and why is it different in every picture? 17:09:36 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r11016 /trunk/src/station_cmd.cpp: -Fix [FS#1172]: stations would also be given cargo when vehicles have only dropped cargo of that particular type. 17:10:01 <SmatZ> Rubidium: aha... okay, then I will set bugfixes as patches from now ... and include [PATCH] in the subject ... btw, 1169 and 1173 are "Patches" too 17:10:32 <SmatZ> *patches as bug reports 17:10:51 *** thingwath [~thingwath@wifi-0008.st.ipex.cz] has joined #openttd 17:11:00 <Bjarni> svip: actually it would be cool to make an inner overlay for accepting coal while outer tile overlay is where you can pickup coal 17:11:14 <Bjarni> I mean, if it should be really useful :) 17:12:09 <Bjarni> actually it would be something everybody would use if you can make it mark areas where you can build a station and goods are accepted. Right now I don't know how to code it to work fast enough though 17:13:59 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r11017 /trunk/src/ (5 files): -Codechange: unify determining whether a vehicle needs/can be service a little more. 17:15:21 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@ndb.demon.nl] has joined #openttd 17:16:50 <Eddi|zuHause2> it should suffice to mark all tiles which accept x/8 goods, then the people can easily count that there are at least 3 such tiles in the catchment area 17:17:23 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r11018 /trunk/src/economy.cpp: -Fix [FS#1169]: Disallow buying/selling shares in your own company or a bankrupted/non-existant company. 17:17:23 <Eddi|zuHause2> (most office houses accept 3/8, so 3 should be enough most of the time) 17:17:37 <Bjarni> it's not really what I asked for, but it would certainly help :) 17:19:41 <Eddi|zuHause2> well, yes, but calculating the acceptance of each tile including surrounding tiles is really problematic, as it depends on catchment radius and stuff, also, the "simple" approach recalculates the same data very often 17:22:48 <svip> <@Bjarni> svip: I have an idea. How about making an overlay of tiles to show all tiles accepting a certain cargo type << A zoning for each layer? 17:22:58 <svip> :/ Hm, that would be nice to have some modifications to the GUI then. 17:23:20 <Rubidium> SmatZ: FS#1173 does not fix the issue when you try to build a ship depot at 0,0 17:23:30 <svip> Because you don't want a HUGE drop list of stuff like "Pick up zone: coal," "Pick up zone: livestock", etc. 17:23:32 <Bjarni> svip: are you using git or hg? 17:23:36 <svip> git? 17:23:37 <svip> hg? 17:23:40 <svip> I know what git is. 17:23:43 <Bjarni> I guess not :) 17:23:44 <svip> What what is hg? 17:23:56 <svip> <Eddi|zuHause2> svip: i don't understand this "industry catchment"... what is it supposed to show, and why is it different in every picture? << That's the problem. 17:24:00 <svip> It doesn't work correctly. 17:24:04 <Noldo> they are version controll systems 17:24:12 <svip> And it seems the other zonings are "interfering" with it. 17:24:15 <svip> With two l's, Noldo? 17:24:15 <Bjarni> http://hgbook.red-bean.com/hgbook.html 17:24:21 <Eddi|zuHause2> svip: no, make one layer "pickup zone", and use different colours for each cargo 17:24:36 <Bjarni> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercurial_(software) 17:24:43 <Bjarni> basically hg (or 17:24:43 <svip> But what if there is more than one cargo in one zone? 17:24:47 <Noldo> svip: my fingers are a bit buttonhappy 17:24:56 <Bjarni> damn, why is enter next to backspace :( 17:25:04 <svip> :| 17:25:13 <svip> Cause that's how they designed it. 17:25:19 <svip> I also wonder why ' is next to enter. 17:25:27 <Bjarni> basically hg (or Mercurial) is like git, but it should have better clients for windows 17:25:39 <Eddi|zuHause2> svip: either use overrides (like "goods" should always override "passengers"), or mix colours 17:25:59 <svip> :/ Hm, Eddi|zuHause2. 17:26:06 <svip> Maybe there should be a second drop down. 17:26:15 <Bjarni> the idea for both is that you can commit locally, which makes it easier to develop and maintain just a big diff as you are making 17:26:18 <svip> That will become available or "APPEAR" if you pick "pick up zone". 17:26:54 <Eddi|zuHause2> not a dropdown, but a selection bar, where you can select or deselect certain cargos (like on the station list) 17:26:56 <svip> Then you can pick "all" and then you can pick "specific goods". 17:26:57 *** Digitalfox [~chatzilla@bl4-208-2.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 17:27:07 <svip> :( Eddi|zuHause2, that takes up a lot of space. 17:27:14 <svip> And it doesn't always need to be there. 17:27:20 <Eddi|zuHause2> so? make the window bigger :) 17:27:31 <svip> :( 17:27:40 <svip> If I select authority, I don't care about the cargo. 17:27:53 <svip> Why is it taking up space then? 17:28:08 <svip> Therefore it should not be there until you pick the correct thingie. 17:28:16 <Eddi|zuHause2> you need space for a colour legenda anyways 17:28:41 <Eddi|zuHause2> you can also open another toolbar... 17:28:47 <svip> :/ Too much work. 17:29:23 <svip> Bjarni: Han elsker kun piger pÃ¥ billeder, og det er ikke sÊrligt sjovt, for han vil ikke nÃ¥ dem, tag dem, jag dem, slÃ¥ dem i nat. 17:29:42 <Eddi|zuHause2> english only! 17:29:54 <nairan> danes.. 17:32:04 <Bjarni> O_O 17:32:06 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r11019 /trunk/src/group_cmd.cpp: -Fix [FS#1176]: Vehicles in a group must always have the same type when adding new vehicles to a group. Patch by SmatZ. 17:32:21 <Bjarni> svip: this is an English only channel 17:32:24 <Bjarni> and.... wtf 17:32:51 <svip> :P 17:33:00 <Bjarni> not only is it completely off topic and totally without relationship with anything else in here 17:33:05 <Bjarni> it's also... wtf 17:33:34 <svip> You are absolutely right. 17:33:41 <Bjarni> I know 17:33:48 <Bjarni> :P 17:34:00 <svip> Now I've downloaded hg. 17:34:25 <Bjarni> for your sake: I will not translate that line for anybody... you will have to survive in here in the future 17:35:00 <svip> Yeah yeah. 17:35:09 <svip> I'd translate it myself if I wanted to. 17:35:16 <svip> And for your information, it is the line from a song. 17:35:57 <svip> So, uh, Bjarni. 17:36:03 <svip> How do I convert it into hg? 17:36:52 <Bjarni> PM 17:38:43 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r11020 /trunk/src/main_gui.cpp: -Fix [FS#1174]: One could not give money when (s)he had too much money or rather: when casting the amount of money to an int32 becomes negative. 17:40:28 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d51A43614.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 17:43:43 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r11021 /trunk/src/command.cpp: -Fix [FS#1175]: do not display income/expenses when they do not belong to a "valid" tile, like the money cheat/giving money. 17:56:20 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A429B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:01:02 <Noldo> hi skidd13 18:03:01 <skidd13> hi 18:18:09 <svip> Bjarni: http://www.isarapix.com/pix73/1188584275.png 18:20:20 *** DJ_Mirage [~sexybigge@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 18:24:12 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-171-87-247.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:26:46 <Eddi|zuHause2> since when do docks have an increased catchment radius? 18:26:56 <Eddi|zuHause2> and how does it behave on mixed stations? 18:27:07 <svip> Well... 18:27:13 <svip> I noticed that docks have 5 radius. 18:27:18 <svip> It surprised me as well. 18:27:22 <svip> But I guess that's it. 18:27:31 <Belugas> T h a t i s a v e r y n i c e l o o k i n g s c r e e n s h o t ! 18:27:40 <svip> :W 18:27:45 <svip> What's with the spaces in that line? 18:28:42 <Eddi|zuHause2> after trying to do data recovery, i am starting to hate reiserfs... 18:28:53 <svip> Well... 18:28:55 <svip> He did murder his wife. 18:29:19 <Eddi|zuHause2> that is completely besides the point... 18:29:29 <svip> :| 18:29:33 <Eddi|zuHause2> and is that proven meanwhile? 18:29:38 <svip> Not really. 18:29:44 <svip> In fact, I still believe he didn't do it. 18:30:05 <skidd13> genie and insanity are really close things 18:30:28 <Eddi|zuHause2> it still does not have anything to do with data recovery... 18:30:36 <SmatZ> Rubidium: you didn't give me a credit in svn 11018 :-( 18:30:45 <Belugas> you have a few ways to put the enphasise of something. Uppercase is considered yelling. Cannot use bold. 18:30:55 <Belugas> So white space has inddeed produced its effect :D 18:31:12 <svip> :P 18:31:17 <svip> You can't use bold? 18:31:28 <svip> I usually use asterisks. 18:31:31 <svip> Like *this*. 18:31:38 <Belugas> hem... i do not know how rather :D 18:31:38 <svip> Or slashes, like /this/. 18:31:47 <svip> Or underscores, like _this_. 18:32:20 <svip> Or exclamation marks, like !this!. 18:32:31 <skidd13> whitespaces are IMO more eye-friendly 18:32:32 <svip> And sometimes to make SUPER emphasise, I use them all. 18:32:42 <Eddi|zuHause2> ¿Qué? 18:32:45 <svip> */_!T H I S!_/* 18:33:25 <Belugas> brrr.... 18:33:35 <Belugas> next time, i'll just say "cool" 18:33:41 <svip> :P 18:34:08 <Eddi|zuHause2> next time, i'll just use ext3... 18:34:35 <svip> Or xfs. :] 18:35:48 <Eddi|zuHause2> is this bold? 18:35:52 <Eddi|zuHause2> cool :) 18:37:03 <Eddi|zuHause2> konversation uses % with another character (B,I,U,S) to start/end bold/italics/underlined/struck-out 18:37:30 <svip> Yes. 18:37:34 <SpComb> %Bthis 18:37:42 <svip> Cause that is good when you're posting a link with special characters in it, Eddi|zuHause2. 18:37:46 <svip> Xchat used to do that. 18:38:01 <svip> But then they realised that some links may be "messed" up due to that. 18:40:05 <Sacro> bold! 18:40:29 <Prof_Frink> fold! 18:42:10 * Sacro pockets Prof_Frink's chips 18:43:04 <Prof_Frink> chips! 18:43:10 * Prof_Frink --> chippie 18:52:12 *** Peakki [antti@cs181000195.pp.htv.fi] has joined #openttd 18:53:39 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1EF6F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:57:17 <svip> Crisps or chips? 18:58:59 <Eddi|zuHause2> !calc ibase=16;13BE46 18:59:01 <_42_> Eddi|zuHause2: 1293894; 18:59:23 <Greyscale> !calc ibase=2;99 18:59:25 <_42_> Greyscale: 3; 18:59:47 <Greyscale> o.o 19:00:09 <svip> :P Greyscale 19:00:15 <svip> !calc ibase=12;99 19:00:17 <_42_> svip: 117; 19:00:20 <Eddi|zuHause2> now if i only knew what unit that number represents... 19:00:21 <svip> :| 19:00:24 <svip> !calc ibase=12;10 19:00:25 <_42_> svip: 12; 19:00:41 <Eddi|zuHause2> stop abusing the bot... 19:00:45 <svip> Ah, I get it. 19:00:51 <svip> You write in the base you write in. 19:00:57 <svip> And then it outputs in base 11. 19:00:58 <svip> 10* 19:00:59 <svip> How annoying. 19:01:03 <svip> I want to go to 12. 19:01:06 <svip> Base 10 sucks. 19:01:08 <SpComb> there's no digit 9 in base-2 19:01:15 <svip> Indeed, SpComb. 19:01:18 <svip> But yet it said 3. 19:01:20 <Eddi|zuHause2> that's what obase is used for, svip 19:01:28 <SpComb> it probably sanitized it to 11 19:01:29 <svip> Hm. 19:01:33 <SpComb> which is 3 19:01:33 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A429B.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [] 19:01:34 <svip> But Google does it better, Eddi|zuHause2. 19:01:36 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A429B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:06:20 *** Zavior [~zavior@d195-237-7-209.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 19:11:39 <Noldo> \o/ managed to fix some self-inflicted package dependecy knot, maybe I can now install git 19:12:56 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-171-87-247.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has joined #openttd 19:20:44 <peter1138> you must be known 19:20:50 <peter1138> you've been here a while 19:23:02 <Rubidium> SmatZ: sorry about that 19:25:06 <Prof_Frink> svip: Chips of course 19:25:30 <MarkSlap> Uhm, how can I see which port OTTD is using to the internet? 19:25:52 <svip> Sniff them. 19:25:58 <svip> Get Wireshark. 19:26:03 <blathijs> @openttd port 19:26:03 <DorpsGek> blathijs: OpenTTD uses TCP and UDP port 3979 for server <-> client communication and UDP port 3978 for masterserver (advertise) communication (outbound) 19:26:04 <MarkSlap> Hmm, that's a way :p 19:26:10 <MarkSlap> Oh 19:26:12 <MarkSlap> :) 19:26:13 <MarkSlap> Nice 19:26:15 <MarkSlap> Thanks ^^ 19:26:29 <blathijs> :-) 19:26:48 <MarkSlap> But i've seen some servers under "Servers" on OTTD-site, and they uses 3980 :o 19:26:53 <MarkSlap> Can you change it? 19:27:13 <svip> Yes. 19:27:19 <Sacro> number of horns on a unicorn acre = 7.7675003 à 1024 US teaspoons per light year 19:27:19 <svip> But either through GUI or recompile. 19:27:23 <svip> The game is open source. 19:27:30 <svip> So everything is changeable. 19:27:34 <MarkSlap> Okey :) 19:27:46 <MarkSlap> I think i'll stick to 3979 :D 19:27:49 <MarkSlap> Thanks ^^ 19:28:19 <glx> <svip> But either through GUI or recompile. <-- no GUI setting and no need to recompile, there's a setting in openttd.cfg 19:28:37 <svip> :O Or that. 19:29:32 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 19:32:06 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1E4D8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:35:54 <MarkSlap> Nice 19:35:59 <MarkSlap> Btw 19:36:21 <MarkSlap> Anyone who can try to come in to my server and just check if it works? 19:39:06 *** stillunk1own [~stillunkn@82-171-87-247.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has joined #openttd 19:39:06 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-171-87-247.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:40:06 <MarkSlap> :P 19:40:26 <MarkSlap> Didn't think so :D 19:44:42 *** lucifer [~1069@h69-130-25-57.69-130.unk.tds.net] has joined #openttd 19:46:35 *** Peakki [antti@cs181000195.pp.htv.fi] has quit [Quit: LÀhdössÀ] 19:46:59 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r11022 /trunk/src/water_cmd.cpp: -Fix: the canal border determination did not take oil rigs into consideration. 19:47:48 *** Sacro [~Sacro@adsl-87-102-80-216.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:49:00 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host240-239-dynamic.15-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 19:49:31 *** Sacro [~Sacro@adsl-87-102-80-216.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 19:49:45 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r11023 /trunk/src/player.h: -Fix [FS#1150]: Switching players (using the cheat) crashed on Big Endian machines. 19:53:43 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host240-239-dynamic.15-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 19:59:31 *** scia [~scia@85.149.96.102] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 20:04:02 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r11024 /trunk/src/ (clear_cmd.cpp tree_cmd.cpp water_cmd.cpp): -Fix [FS#1173]: give a more correct error when building some things on tile 0; "Can't build on water" or "Too close to the edge" instead of "Vehicle in the way". Patch by SmatZ. 20:05:06 <Rubidium> SmatZ: that was an interesting list of small bugs ;) 20:06:17 <nairan> heh 20:06:44 <SmatZ> Rubidium: yes it was, but http://bugs.openttd.org/task/1169 was rather critical :) 20:06:57 <SmatZ> I spoke about it to Bjarni and glx yesterday 20:08:01 <skidd13> good night 20:08:01 <SmatZ> at least, there are things to import to 0.5 branch :) so 0.5-RC4 will be here sooner 20:08:04 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A429B.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [] 20:09:02 <SmatZ> *0.5.3 20:10:41 <SmatZ> Rubidium: I was trying to find some security issues 20:10:56 <SmatZ> I found only some little problems, so there came those bugreports from 20:20:00 *** Greyscale [~greyscale@host86-131-37-73.range86-131.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:25:48 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B7784F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:26:07 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B7784F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:27:30 *** Wezz6400_ [~Wezz6400@ndb.demon.nl] has joined #openttd 20:30:13 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@ndb.demon.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:30:16 *** Wezz6400_ is now known as Wezz6400 20:34:06 *** Greyscale [~greyscale@host86-131-39-253.range86-131.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 20:37:41 *** Xintmeister [xintron@blinkenshell.org] has joined #openttd 20:37:41 *** Xintron [xintron@blinkenshell.org] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:43:06 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-171-87-247.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has joined #openttd 20:43:06 *** stillunk1own [~stillunkn@82-171-87-247.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:49:39 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@ndb.demon.nl] has quit [Quit: until later, don't die] 20:50:19 *** DJ_Mirage [~sexybigge@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: www.sexybiggetje.nl] 20:50:41 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r11025 /trunk/src/string.h: -Fix: safeguard StrEmpty from calls with NULL. 20:51:11 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r11026 /trunk/src/signs.cpp: -Fix: the name of a sign could sometimes be NULL causing crashes. 20:52:50 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r11027 /trunk/src/ (depot.h vehicle.cpp): -Fix: do not unconditionally assume that a tile has a depot. 20:57:53 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1E4D8.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:59:11 <SmatZ> another small catches, Rubidium :) today was a day of many small bugfixes 20:59:33 <svip> :O 21:00:03 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB7D7E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Osai] 21:01:06 *** sPooT [~spoot@e142085.upc-e.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 21:01:37 <svip> :O TrueBrain 21:01:45 * svip pokes TrueBrain a million times. 21:01:56 <Bjarni> hehe 21:02:01 <Bjarni> that might be a bit too much :p 21:02:04 <svip> :P 21:02:11 <Rubidium> now you've broken TrueBrain :( 21:02:16 <Bjarni> like 999.999 times too much 21:02:49 <TrueBrain> @kick svip me kicks svip one time 21:02:49 *** svip was kicked from #openttd by DorpsGek [me kicks svip one time] 21:03:14 *** svip [~svip@cpe.atm2-0-78233.0x535a2072.boanxx18.customer.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 21:03:18 <svip> :P 21:03:21 <svip> Anyway, TrueBrain. 21:03:26 <svip> O_O Help fix me hg problem. 21:04:10 <svip> The version I originally had doesn't have the branch option. 21:04:29 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387C39B.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 21:04:38 <svip> So I compile new version. 21:04:52 <svip> But each time I put the new version in /usr/bin, it becomes the old version. 21:04:56 <svip> So... the question is. 21:05:14 <svip> Does hg actually search through some lib files to check which version it is or some shizzle? 21:05:41 <TrueBrain> hg == python 21:05:49 <TrueBrain> so touching /usr/bin is a bit useless 21:06:01 <svip> Touching? 21:06:26 <TrueBrain> yes, putting new versions in /usr/bin is useless 21:06:33 <svip> Why? 21:06:34 <TrueBrain> put them in /usr/lib/python2.N/site-packages/mercurial 21:06:38 <TrueBrain> much more useful 21:06:41 <TrueBrain> as it is a PYTHON application 21:06:44 <TrueBrain> or use the installs cript 21:06:53 <svip> What install script? 21:07:00 <Bjarni> make install? 21:07:09 <TrueBrain> or else, just a guess: python setup.py install 21:07:26 <TrueBrain> but I am sure it is in either INSTALL, or on their webpage ;) 21:07:35 <svip> :D That worked. 21:07:38 <svip> Thanks for the help. 21:07:56 <TrueBrain> np ;) And all that with only common python knowledge :p 21:08:04 <TrueBrain> for all I knew, Mercurial used a completely different system :p 21:08:12 <svip> :P 21:17:20 <TrueBrain> @op 21:17:21 *** mode/#openttd [+o TrueBrain] by DorpsGek 21:18:44 *** lucifer [~1069@h69-130-25-57.69-130.unk.tds.net] has quit [Quit: Freedom of speech is, above all, Mutual.] 21:19:09 *** TrueBrain changed the topic of #openttd to: 0.5.2 | Fundraiser 2007/2008 - Support OpenTTD, donate today: http://www.openttd.org/fundraiser.php 21:21:14 *** MrBrrr [~chatzilla@bas3-montreal02-1096683097.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #openttd 21:21:24 <MrBrrr> hey all! 21:21:31 <TrueBrain> hi MrBrrr 21:21:42 <svip> MrBrrr seems happy. 21:21:54 <MrBrrr> TGIF :) 21:22:09 <svip> More acronyms? 21:22:17 <svip> When will it stop!? 21:22:56 <MrBrrr> Mwahahah! 21:25:20 <MrBrrr> Got a question, what does the bool mode affect in static void TrainLocoHandler(Vehicle *v, bool mode)? 21:26:27 <svip> It's wither or not the mode is true. 21:26:43 <MrBrrr> What mode would that be? 21:27:22 <svip> Nobody knows! 21:27:29 <MrBrrr> EEEK :( 21:28:12 *** Smoovious [~imp486@c-71-205-140-67.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 21:28:23 <TrueBrain> That is not true svip 21:28:29 <TrueBrain> anyway, MrBrrr, just follow 'mode' yourself in the code 21:28:38 <MrBrrr> But I'm lazy :( 21:28:41 <MrBrrr> argh 21:28:50 <Smoovious> and we're not? 21:28:53 <Smoovious> :P 21:29:30 *** lag [~lagmaster@cpc4-bsfd2-0-0-cust907.cmbg.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 21:29:38 <TrueBrain> MrBrrr: we are _not_ here to pave the road for you :) 21:29:57 <MrBrrr> AWWW 21:29:57 <lag> hey, just donated towards openttd, great program keep up the good work :) 21:30:04 <Smoovious> just the painting of the lines 21:30:09 <MrBrrr> Meanies :( 21:30:10 <TrueBrain> tnx lag, we will try :) 21:31:33 <TrueBrain> @deop 21:31:36 *** mode/#openttd [-o TrueBrain] by DorpsGek 21:31:38 <TrueBrain> I hate having +o :p 21:31:42 <TrueBrain> gives me too much power :) 21:34:22 <Smoovious> I'll take it instead if it bothers you so much :D 21:34:29 <TrueBrain> @op Smoovious 21:34:31 *** mode/#openttd [+o Smoovious] by DorpsGek 21:34:31 <TrueBrain> @deop Smoovious 21:34:31 *** mode/#openttd [-o Smoovious] by DorpsGek 21:34:36 <TrueBrain> you had your chance 21:34:37 <Smoovious> would give me an even # of o's 21:34:40 <Smoovious> :P 21:35:47 <Smoovious> welp... I got 2 more days tops available to tinker with my chat script for about 5 weeks... 21:36:06 <Smoovious> if you or someone else has an opportunity to critique it further... .. . 21:36:27 <TrueBrain> Smoovious: you really don't make any sense 21:37:16 <Smoovious> Monday morning I leave for Tulsa to start company training with a trucking company... I won't be b ack home for 5 weeks... 21:38:00 <Smoovious> aand if there is anything else you guys think needs changing in my chat script FS#532, this weekend is my last opportunity to do so for a while 21:38:11 <TrueBrain> ah, that makes it more clear :p 21:38:13 <TrueBrain> @openttd bugs 532 21:38:13 <DorpsGek> TrueBrain: [FS#532] Patch (sev: Very Low, prio: Normal, status: Assigned): 'Chat Messages: set # of seconds before chat dissapears', by Smoovious - http://bugs.openttd.org/task/532 21:38:39 <Smoovious> part of the patch was allready comitted... 21:39:11 <Smoovious> which basicallly just renamed some things to better seperate them from text effects 21:42:13 *** KouDy [~KouDy@85.207.64.178] has quit [Quit: Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com] 21:44:47 *** Frostregen_ [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-136-247.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 21:50:18 *** Frostregen [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-133-028.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:50:27 *** Frostregen_ is now known as Frostregen 21:56:38 <TrueBrain> Smoovious: I wish I had the time to review it for you, but I don't... 21:56:42 <TrueBrain> and we will miss you those 5 weeks :( 21:57:13 <Smoovious> ok 21:57:18 * Smoovious snorts, "yeah, right. :P" 21:57:32 <TrueBrain> at least you talk :p 21:57:50 <Smoovious> sometimes, way more than I should 21:58:00 <TrueBrain> same here :p 21:58:25 <Bjarni> Smoovious: we will surely miss you 21:58:27 <Smoovious> anyways, the plan is to get a laptop as soon as I can, and then I can hop on and do some coding during the times I'm not allowed to be driving... 21:58:29 <Bjarni> a whole month.... 21:58:51 <Bjarni> how can it take a whole month to learn driving those things? 21:58:56 <Smoovious> yeah... been setting up my computer for remote login, so I may luck out and be able to pop in for a few here and there 21:59:01 <Bjarni> I mean, I guess you will do little else 21:59:51 <Smoovious> well, it doen't... I already spent 2 weeks learning to drive enuf for my license... the first week with the company will be classroom, learning the paperwork and procedures, and the other 4 weeks on the road with a trainer... may be shorter, depends... 22:00:02 <Smoovious> I'll be d oing alal the driving tho 22:00:25 <Smoovious> its flatbed work, so I got a lot more to learn yet... the driving school doesn't cover flatbeds 22:02:21 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1E4D8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 22:03:10 <Wolf01> i think there's a bug with the oil rigs, maybe is due to the grf i loaded, but they don't produce oil :/ 22:06:52 <Bjarni> so the well ran dry :( 22:07:46 <Smoovious> its a design feature to make them more like the original TTD 22:08:08 <Wolf01> no, the owners are selling air... the oil production is specified in the rig window... but no oil is coming in my tankers 22:09:06 <Wolf01> the same for oil wells 22:12:20 *** Zr40 [~zr40@zr40.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 22:12:32 <Wolf01> can somebody try it before i'll open a bug in the tracker? http://wolf01.game-host.org/OTTD_related/oil_problem.sav i use UKRS, TTRSv3.x, AV8, and some newstation and other eyecandy sets 22:13:17 *** Zr40 [~zr40@zr40.xs4all.nl] has quit [] 22:29:21 <Rubidium> Wolf01: is it only with oil? 22:29:28 <Wolf01> seem so 22:29:36 <Wolf01> with passengers and iron ore it works 22:30:00 <Smoovious> iron ore? from a rig? 22:30:19 <Wolf01> maybe other industries can have problems? 22:31:13 *** jow [~jow@e179202221.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 22:31:22 <jow> hi 22:31:27 <svip> O_O 22:31:31 <svip> Jow? 22:31:35 <svip> That is a funny name. 22:31:40 <jow> ^^ 22:32:15 <TrueBrain> hi jow 22:32:47 <jow> i have an issue with the latest ottd version (r11024) 22:32:54 <svip> :O 22:32:56 <TrueBrain> which is? 22:33:00 <svip> That is not the latest. 22:33:12 <svip> r11027 is out. 22:33:32 <jow> yeah, ic, it was the latest some hours ago :) 22:33:38 <svip> :P 22:33:56 <TrueBrain> jow: please ignore svip and continue :) 22:34:00 <svip> :P 22:34:07 <jow> yes, i have sucessfully compiled the trunk and tried to run a game 22:34:28 <jow> the problem is, the vehicles get no cargo 22:34:35 <svip> O_O Hm. 22:34:44 <Wolf01> ok, so is a bug 22:34:54 <jow> okay, shall i file on in flyspray? 22:35:02 <TrueBrain> Rubidium: I think you can be of a bit more help here? :) 22:35:16 <TrueBrain> jow: clean game? As in: no patches? 22:35:19 <Wolf01> the stations which already have cargo will continue to produce cargo 22:35:21 <TrueBrain> jow: any grfs loaded? 22:35:55 <jow> first i had some grfs loaded but after having this issue i wiped out my entrie ~/.openttd 22:36:05 *** RamboRonny [magic.powe@90-230-201-111-no37.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Quit: - nbs-irc 2.36 - www.nbs-irc.net -] 22:36:21 <jow> still no success 22:36:33 <jow> tried the current nightly too, same results 22:36:52 <Rubidium> argh... annoying crap 22:36:53 <jow> can i help you somehow to debug this 22:37:06 <jow> ? 22:37:35 <TrueBrain> jow: any grfs loaded? 22:37:37 <TrueBrain> hmm 22:37:41 <TrueBrain> wrong window to press up and enter 22:37:57 <jow> TrueBrain, no none 22:38:05 <TrueBrain> sorry jow, I pressed the wrong buttons here ;) 22:38:20 <svip> o_o 22:38:25 <svip> Well jow is apparently right. 22:38:28 <jow> oh, np this happens to me all the time :D 22:38:32 <svip> They *do* receive no cargo. 22:38:35 <TrueBrain> of course he is, why wouldn't he? 22:38:45 <svip> :/ Hey hey. 22:38:48 <svip> Nothing wrong in testing that is. 22:38:53 <svip> +he 22:39:00 <TrueBrain> ;) 22:39:02 <TrueBrain> I agree 22:39:20 <jow> is svip your chatbot? *hehe* 22:39:36 <TrueBrain> I wish we could write a chatbot that good 22:39:40 <TrueBrain> or that annoying, for that matter 22:39:59 <Rubidium> problem is that I tried to fix some bug this morning, with this as collateral damage due to the fact that I misread the state of a station during debugging this morning 22:40:27 <TrueBrain> happens to all of us 22:40:46 <Wolf01> and wasn't i right? i spent more than half of my cash to purchase a refinery and i can't get oil for it! 22:41:52 <Rubidium> but it seems like I keep messing up the whole "when does station need to get cargo from industries" thing 22:42:03 <Rubidium> over *and* over again :( 22:42:09 <TrueBrain> someone has to! :) 22:42:16 <TrueBrain> then people appreciate it more when it works :) 22:42:39 <TrueBrain> then people appreciate it more when it works :) 22:42:40 <TrueBrain> hmm 22:42:42 <TrueBrain> wrong window AGAIN 22:42:46 <TrueBrain> (see, I have it too :p) 22:42:53 *** Mucht [~Mucht@p57A0F521.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:43:06 <jow> hmm okay, im not a C(++) coder but i tried to read through the changelogs in your trac but haven't found some obvious change so far that might be the cause of the bug 22:43:17 <Wolf01> ok, good work to fix it, and good night people :) 22:43:25 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host240-239-dynamic.15-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 22:43:32 *** nairan [~Maui_key@p5498D8F1.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [] 22:46:44 <jow> Rubidium: so you have an idea what might be the cause? 22:47:05 <TrueBrain> jow: he does 22:47:11 <TrueBrain> give him a bit of time :) 22:47:21 <jow> ah, okay 22:49:18 <Rubidium> well, I know what causes it, but I've got no real idea how to (nicely) solve it 22:49:35 <jow> btw, you have done a nice work with the game so far 22:49:56 <jow> it's amazing :) 22:50:10 <TrueBrain> good to hear you like it :) 22:50:38 <jow> have just read your fundraiser page 22:51:02 <jow> i don't like (and use) paypal but like to doate some euros ayways 22:51:48 <jow> have read one should contact orudge for details with bank transfer 22:51:57 <TrueBrain> Yup, he handles all the donations 22:52:03 <TrueBrain> He is out of town till tomorrow though 22:53:15 <jow> okay, so i'll try to ask him later here 22:53:31 <TrueBrain> or email him: owen at owenrudge dot net 22:53:52 <jow> that's even better, thank you :) 22:53:58 <TrueBrain> no, thank you :) 22:55:11 <jow> unfortunatly my ips's mail server is down right now *argh* >:| 22:56:01 <jow> i'll try tomorrow 22:56:15 <TrueBrain> :) 22:57:09 <TrueBrain> why do bugs always hide when you try to squash them... 22:57:40 *** Greyscale [~greyscale@host86-131-39-253.range86-131.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:01:25 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@212.24.150.226] has joined #openttd 23:02:38 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r11028 /trunk/src/player_gui.cpp: -Fix [FS#1177]: crash when having the Finance window opened of the player you are cheating to. 23:05:20 *** SmatZ [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:10:31 *** Greyscale [~greyscale@host86-131-39-253.range86-131.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 23:10:33 <jow> i have another question too, airplanes in the trunk versions are flying pretty fast compared to the speed in the 0.5.x series of the game... is this a wanted behavior? 23:11:11 <TrueBrain> yes; we (finally) matched the speed of trains with the speed of airplanes 23:11:22 <TrueBrain> if a plane now goes 500 km/h, and a train too, they move equally fast 23:11:26 <TrueBrain> in 0.5 this doesn't hold 23:11:37 <svip> o_o FANTASTIC! 23:11:45 <svip> That appears like a wanted behaviour. 23:12:10 <jow> ah cool, i was just curious about this 23:12:16 <ln-> which one weighs more, one kilogram of feathers or one kilogram of iron? 23:13:10 <TrueBrain> ln-: in the past, according to OpenTTD: the feathers 23:15:05 <MrBrrr> Huh... 23:15:29 <MrBrrr> but doesn't that make airplanes a bit too profitable? 23:16:53 <svip> Not really. 23:17:02 <svip> They are still expensive. 23:17:08 <MrBrrr> hmmm 23:17:13 <TrueBrain> and they already made an insane amount of money 23:17:18 <TrueBrain> now it is just a tiny bit more :p 23:17:38 <MrBrrr> x_x 23:17:40 <MrBrrr> Hazzah! 23:24:08 <MrBrrr> Is it normal that cities no longer generate passengers? 23:24:57 <TrueBrain> no; a bug, is being worked on as we speak 23:25:22 <MrBrrr> What an odd bug. 23:25:51 <jow> from what i understood so far it's a generic cargo producer -> station bug 23:26:10 <jow> that should affect passengers too i think 23:27:19 <TrueBrain> MrBrrr: it happens with trunk development :) 23:27:28 <MrBrrr> Gotta love it ;) 23:27:33 <svip> ;) 23:30:06 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: glx * r11029 /trunk/src/music/win32_m.cpp: -Fix [FS#1164]: win32 midi doesn't stop when closing openttd 23:31:00 <svip> Is that why music doesn't work on Linux? 23:31:16 <glx> svip needs glasses 23:31:20 <MrBrrr> lol 23:31:23 <svip> No, glx. 23:31:29 <svip> You said Win32 midi. 23:31:33 <svip> And there is no midi on Linux. 23:31:51 <svip> So if the music uses midi, it'd make sense for the music not to work on Linux. 23:31:53 <glx> there is but you need an external program 23:32:12 <glx> and yes the music is in midi format 23:32:33 <svip> midi sucks. 23:32:36 <svip> Do something about that. 23:32:37 <svip> Like ogg. 23:32:56 <glx> original files are midi files 23:33:01 <MrBrrr> midi sucks? blasphemy 23:33:04 <glx> we can't convert them 23:33:06 <svip> :| 23:33:17 <svip> You can't? 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