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[~scia@85.149.96.102] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 08:59:27 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has joined #openttd 09:05:03 *** Chris82 [~Chris82@p579E1EAC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 09:05:06 <Chris82> good morning 09:06:24 <Chris82> MSVC has these two warnings http://paste.openttd.org/225 when compiling current trunk (11087) 09:07:27 <Chris82> it's from the use advanced vehicle list patch for others and see loading indicators for others patch 09:09:09 *** SmatZ [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has joined #openttd 09:10:06 *** elmex [~elmex@e180064188.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 09:12:29 *** ITSBTH [~e@host-81-191-171-43.bluecom.no] has joined #openttd 09:12:29 *** ITSBTH_ [~e@host-81-191-171-43.bluecom.no] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:28:12 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@ip150.77.1311A-CUD12K-02.ish.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 09:31:33 *** ITSBTH_ [~e@host-81-191-171-43.bluecom.no] has joined #openttd 09:31:33 *** ITSBTH 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"if rightlicked" ...can I somehow make this if ctrl + rightclick? 09:35:16 <SmatZ> if _ctrl_pressed 09:35:31 <Chris82> thx :) 09:35:39 <SmatZ> np :) 09:35:54 <Chris82> otherwise I can't use rightclick map moving anymore when using the show catchment area with rightclick patch 09:36:49 <SmatZ> mouse has too few buttons to fit all the functions I would like :) 09:38:44 <Chris82> well there are 5 button mouses but I assume even that is not enough hehe 09:39:10 <SmatZ> :-) 09:39:38 <SmatZ> on MACs, you may have problem when the right-click emulation is done via ctrl+click 09:43:49 <ln-> but not in openttd 09:43:53 <ln-> by default 09:45:56 *** Darkebie [~dkb@d5153D5CD.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 09:54:57 <Chris82> this: if (_ctrl_pressed && (_cursor.delta.x < 10) || (_cursor.delta.y < 10)) { 09:55:05 <Chris82> does not do what I want it does something even better :D 09:55:18 <Chris82> now right click on a station will show the catchment area 09:55:27 <Chris82> and rightclick elsewhere will allow browsing the map 09:55:30 <Chris82> :D 09:55:35 <Chris82> bad hack *g* 09:56:04 <Chris82> ctrl is necessary for neither, although the code says something different I think 10:07:44 <SmatZ> :-) 10:11:31 *** ITSBTH [~e@host-81-191-171-43.bluecom.no] has joined #openttd 10:11:31 *** ITSBTH_ [~e@host-81-191-171-43.bluecom.no] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:29:21 *** N101 [~Name101@CPE-121-216-143-142.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 10:31:53 *** St|off [~mirc@h2n2fls308o838.telia.com] has quit [Quit: Peace and Protection 4.22.2] 10:34:53 *** St|off [~mirc@h2n2fls308o838.telia.com] has joined #openttd 10:36:32 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1FD68.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:37:18 *** LeviathNL [LeviathNL@x037133.its-s.tudelft.nl] has joined #openttd 10:38:43 *** LeviathNL [LeviathNL@x037133.its-s.tudelft.nl] has quit [] 10:42:50 *** mikl [~mikl@0x57372ee2.mrbnqu1.broadband.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 11:21:38 *** Chris82 [~Chris82@p579E1EAC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-] 11:22:39 *** Farden [~jk3farden@AMontsouris-156-1-1-250.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 11:23:54 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1FD68.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:28:35 *** Sacro` [~Sacro@adsl-87-102-80-216.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 11:33:58 *** Sacro [~Sacro@adsl-87-102-80-216.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:34:02 *** lolman [~lolman@adsl-87-102-80-216.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:40:50 *** G_ [~njones@202.154.148.163] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:51:03 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 11:51:05 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 11:52:29 *** lolman [~lolman@adsl-87-102-80-216.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 12:25:01 *** Smoky555 [~Miranda@80.69.148.14] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 12:25:15 *** Smoky555 [~Miranda@80.69.148.14] has joined #openttd 12:25:28 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@xdsl-84-44-202-116.netcologne.de] has joined #openttd 12:27:29 *** AntB [~AntB-UK@5ac91afe.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 12:32:46 *** frosch123 [~mtce@pascal.math.tu-clausthal.de] has joined #openttd 12:35:40 *** Smoky555 [~Miranda@80.69.148.14] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:42:36 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-155-227.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: ThePizzaKing] 12:44:03 *** TinoM|Mobil [~tino@WL-POOL10-41.UNI-MUENSTER.DE] has joined #openttd 12:44:36 *** TinoM|Mobil [~tino@WL-POOL10-41.UNI-MUENSTER.DE] has quit [] 12:50:12 *** Tobin- [~tobin@c58-107-50-36.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 12:54:22 *** Mucht [~Mucht@p57A0FED1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 13:02:53 *** Smoky555 [~Miranda@80.69.148.14] has joined #openttd 13:18:10 <Sacro`> rawr >:C 13:19:15 <svip> :| 13:40:04 *** Tobin- [~tobin@c58-107-50-36.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: Tobin-] 13:44:01 *** Dephenom [~paul@81-178-15-211.dsl.pipex.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:44:22 *** Dephenom [~paul@81-178-15-211.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #openttd 13:45:30 *** Insight` [~askme@host64-21.bornet.net] has joined #openttd 13:48:00 <St|off> Is there any easy ways to find out the ingame console command for different patch settings? The setting I want (select town-road layout) isn't on the wiki 13:51:20 <Belugas> is there a help command somewhere? 13:52:49 <St|off> Yeah, there is a list patches one, but it doesn't show all avalible. 13:52:53 <glx> patch town_layout 13:53:10 <St|off> thank you 13:53:32 <glx> usually it's patch <name of setting as in openttd.cfg> 13:54:32 <St|off> Aha, good to know. I have been guessing until now... :) 13:56:26 <frosch123> Does anyone has a oppinion about http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=33746&start=22 13:56:39 *** scia [~scia@85.149.96.102] has joined #openttd 13:56:42 <frosch123> Discussing with someone on the other side of the world, is kind of ... 13:57:36 <Belugas> on what do you need an opinion, frosch123? 13:57:53 <frosch123> The handling of prop 0D 13:58:02 <frosch123> TTDP does not care about that 13:58:19 <frosch123> Should we stay compatible there, or do our own thing? 14:06:47 <Belugas> ok... 14:07:12 <Belugas> the idea of extending the specs on industry/tiles is not a bad idea as such 14:07:23 <Belugas> but i don't think we are in position to actually suggest anyting 14:07:30 <Belugas> right now, i mean 14:07:54 <frosch123> So we should ignore prop 0D, just like TTDP? 14:08:32 <frosch123> And allow autoslope under the default industries, though they never can be built on slopes? 14:10:03 <Belugas> they ignore it?? 14:10:23 <Belugas> it might be why our implementation is broken up then :( 14:10:36 <frosch123> They ignore it on autoslope 14:10:41 <Belugas> ho... you mean during autoslope.. 14:10:45 <Belugas> yeah :) 14:10:59 <frosch123> What ist broken? 14:11:19 <Belugas> i cannot make newindustries work correctly 14:11:33 <Belugas> there are a lot of callbacks that return the wrong values 14:11:51 <Belugas> tbus failing or giving wrong behaviour 14:12:08 <Belugas> mostly during creation of the industries and during animations too 14:12:20 <Belugas> ECSWoods is a pretty good exemple of failure 14:12:28 <Belugas> but back to topics... 14:12:52 *** Zavior [~zavior@d195-237-7-209.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:12:55 <Belugas> so should we ignore prop D for autoslop... 14:13:17 <Belugas> the reflex I have is to say if ttdpatch ignores it, so should we. 14:13:43 <frosch123> What bothers me about ignoring it, is that you can terraform the land to a slope, the industry would have never been built on. 14:13:50 <Belugas> but there is a voice in my head who asks "why do thert ingore it?" 14:14:05 <frosch123> Autoslope was coded before newindustries? 14:14:34 <Belugas> maybe, dunno. Or maybe by someone who was not aware of the implications 14:15:28 <Belugas> the problem of using prop 0D is that usrs from patch realm would find our imoplementaion like a bug and complain 14:15:42 <Belugas> but that should not be a big show stopper, 14:15:52 <Belugas> both projects have differences 14:16:08 <DaleStan> I don't think so. My guess is that Oskar wanted autoslope to be halfway decently powerful. And if you don't want terraforming to work, well ... CB 3C exists for a reason. 14:16:28 <DaleStan> Though I said before, it does need a little more info to be useful. 14:16:58 <frosch123> Oh, DaleStan is here 14:17:11 <frosch123> No need to wait 24 hours for a reply :) 14:17:22 <Belugas> lol :) 14:19:00 * Belugas is checking if cb 3C is in code or not 14:19:10 <frosch123> in my patch: yes 14:19:14 <DaleStan> Not to mention that the vast majority of current industries only use bit 5 of prop 0D anyway. 14:19:27 <frosch123> untestes though 14:20:06 <frosch123> By the way, is there a difference in setting it to 0x10 or 0x0F? 14:22:32 *** Zavior [~zavior@d195-237-7-209.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 14:22:52 <DaleStan> I don't think so. In fact, I think 10 is equivalent to all of 05, 07, 0A, 0B, 0D, 0E, 0F. (05 and 0A are the minimum-bits-set values) 14:23:27 * Belugas agrees 14:23:44 * Belugas is checking frosch123's work a little closer 14:24:23 * frosch123 hides 14:24:34 <Belugas> you should not :) 14:25:29 <DaleStan> ... Oh. Of course, 10 is also equivalent to 11..1F. But that should go without saying. 14:26:28 <frosch123> I simply wrote GetIndustryTileCallback and removed the "// not implemented" 14:30:36 <Belugas> that a little more :) 14:30:41 <frosch123> Ok, to sum up: I remove the new newgrf features from my patch, and imitate TTDP behaviour with industries. 14:30:47 <Belugas> and yes, 10 is JackOfAllTrade 14:33:04 <Belugas> not all the newgrf stuff needs to be romoved ;) 14:33:35 <frosch123> But I think the newhouses behavior can stay, i.e. checking the 'can only be built on flat land'-flag. 14:33:42 <frosch123> what stuff? 14:33:48 <frosch123> is there anything special? 14:35:51 <Belugas> var 63, 69, CBID_INDUSTRY_AUTOSLOPE... 14:36:16 <frosch123> 63, 69 are the unofficial new. We just decided to slate them. 14:36:28 <frosch123> :) 14:37:31 <frosch123> slate=slaughter 14:37:58 <Belugas> wy do i have the strange feeling that i need to concentrate a bit more on irc than on work@work ? 14:38:39 <Belugas> so yes, indeed, wipe them out 14:38:44 <Belugas> pffff.... 14:39:41 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B800EE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:39:43 <frosch123> ok, fine. Now I have a decision. 14:39:45 *** Tefad [~tefad@c-71-63-10-8.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:42:01 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B801F7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 14:42:02 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 14:45:22 *** nzvip [~svip@192.38.109.188] has joined #openttd 14:47:31 <frosch123> DaleStan: Do TTDP's industries not terraform on creation? 14:49:20 <DaleStan> If they do, it's not done or controlled by NFO. 14:50:37 *** Tefad [~tefad@c-71-63-10-8.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 14:51:07 <frosch123> Probably. Perhaps it was added to OTTD with TerraGenesis patch. 14:51:29 <Rubidium> s/Probably. Perhaps i/I/ 14:52:46 <Eddi|zuHause3> i thought that was limited to land generation, not ingame placement 14:53:07 <Rubidium> that's true too 14:53:08 <frosch123> When I manually found a industry near a slope, it automatically terraforms 14:53:40 <Rubidium> hmm, maybe the terraforming kicks in then too (did think it didn't) 14:53:48 <frosch123> but only to flat land 14:56:27 * Belugas recalls seeing some strange slopping from pikka's basic set 14:57:41 <DaleStan> The quarries want a very particular and sometimes hard-to-find slope. 14:59:06 <Eddi|zuHause3> i think the terraforming in TGP was very basic and only designed to create a rectangular flat area 15:00:44 <frosch123> industry_cmd: if (!custom_shape_check) CheckIfCanLevelIndustryPlatform(tile, DC_EXEC, it, type); 15:02:14 <TrueBrain> yeah! Streaming XViD to XBox360 via Linux :) Finally! 15:03:16 *** KouDy [~KouDy@85.207.64.178] has joined #openttd 15:05:50 <Belugas> the quarries are running fine, DaleStan. IT's more stuff like engineer yard having some tiles raised by a foundation... 15:05:57 <Belugas> you see, stuff like that 15:06:03 <Belugas> REALLY bothering 15:06:57 <frosch123> Does C short-circuit boolean evaluations? 15:07:05 <Belugas> and i still have to find a way to avoid assigning slot 255 to a new industry tile... haven't figured out a nice way yet 15:09:27 <frosch123> I.e. does "if (false && Proc())" call Proc()? 15:09:37 <Eddi|zuHause3> C has lazy evaluation 15:11:36 <Belugas> i think it fill fail on first fall condition 15:11:47 <frosch123> if (!custom_shape_check && _patches.land_generator == LG_TERRAGENESIS && _generating_world && !CheckIfCanLevelIndustryPlatform(tile, 0, it, type)) return NULL; 15:12:05 <frosch123> Then this looks wrong together with above line 15:12:30 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A783F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:12:49 <frosch123> It does the success-test/cost-estimation only during world generation, but the DC_EXEC is always done. 15:14:22 <skidd13> hi 15:14:31 <Belugas> hey 15:15:03 <Belugas> so you're saying that somehow, the conditions are not right 15:16:30 <frosch123> Either both should be done only during world generation, or both should be done always. 15:16:48 <frosch123> ... I think. 15:18:16 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A783F.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [] 15:18:58 <Belugas> first call is done with flag 0, so no execution 15:19:28 <Belugas> second one, in (if (flags & DC_EXEC)) actually performs it 15:19:40 <frosch123> Yes, but first one returns, if it fails. 15:20:52 <Belugas> mmh 15:21:09 <frosch123> So while the world is not being created, some terraforming is done, and then it can fail. 15:21:51 <frosch123> Not important though. 15:25:33 *** svip_ [~svip@cpe.atm2-0-78233.0x535a2072.boanxx18.customer.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 15:25:33 *** svip [~svip@cpe.atm2-0-78233.0x535a2072.boanxx18.customer.tele.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:27:16 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x50a4163c.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 15:27:19 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 15:27:36 <Bjarni> Sacro`: you moron 15:27:40 <frosch123> Hmm, have to test it, when at home. Perhaps it can trigger an assertion or desync... 15:27:50 <Bjarni> searching for me while I'm doing serious stuff 15:28:04 <Belugas> on the other hand... 15:28:08 <Belugas> i wonder... 15:28:09 <Bjarni> don't you think I haven't got better things to do than to hang around here waiting for you? 15:28:43 <frosch123> [17:27] <Bjarni> searching for me while I'm doing serious stuff <- serious stuff, what are you coding for OTTD? :) 15:28:45 <Belugas> this whole test is in fact typicall to ottd 15:28:58 <Belugas> it is not done on ttdp 15:29:04 <Belugas> problem we have is tgp 15:29:14 <Bjarni> frosch123: actually I have been at uni all day 15:29:24 <Bjarni> so no time for coding (at least so far) 15:29:44 <Belugas> the shape of the land can be quite more problematic, since we have a hell of a lot more "noise" possibility 15:30:15 <frosch123> Wasn't there a discussion in the TTDP forum with RickK? 15:30:35 <Belugas> maybe.. cannot remember 15:31:26 <frosch123> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=27530&start=52 15:33:25 *** Deathmaker [~Miranda@dslb-082-083-208-156.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 15:37:42 <Belugas> mmh 15:37:53 <Belugas> thanks for pointers 15:43:27 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-84-227-150-118.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 15:46:10 *** Frostregen_ [~sucks@dslb-084-058-122-007.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 15:46:56 <Belugas> isn't it the customcheck stuff? 15:46:59 <Belugas> wondering.. 15:47:13 <Belugas> i should go back to work@work :( 15:48:15 *** frosch123 [~mtce@pascal.math.tu-clausthal.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:52:08 *** Frostregen [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-118-088.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:52:20 *** Frostregen_ is now known as Frostregen 15:54:27 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1FD68.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:59:38 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@xdsl-84-44-202-116.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:04:29 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB5B28.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:05:30 *** Tron [~tron@nat-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de] has joined #openttd 16:05:33 *** Tron [~tron@nat-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de] has left #openttd [] 16:08:18 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d51A43614.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 16:15:35 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d51A43614.access.telenet.be] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:22:20 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB5B28.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:23:03 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB5B28.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:23:27 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A5B47.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:26:47 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host240-239-dynamic.15-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 16:27:00 <Wolf01> hello 16:29:47 <Bjarni> hi Wolf01 16:42:14 *** lolman [~lolman@adsl-87-102-80-216.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:42:27 <Noldo> puuh 16:44:34 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-84-227-150-118.adslplus.ch] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 16:45:34 *** BobingAbout [~BobingAbo@adsl-87-102-70-245.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 16:45:38 *** BobingAbout [~BobingAbo@adsl-87-102-70-245.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [] 16:48:53 *** Sacro` [~Sacro@adsl-87-102-80-216.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:49:35 *** ThePenguin [~ThePengui@75-128-224-130.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com] has joined #openttd 16:54:27 *** ThePenguin [~ThePengui@75-128-224-130.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com] has quit [] 16:59:15 *** pPACO_BAN is now known as Phazorx 16:59:59 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@145-118-111-234.fttx.bbned.nl] has joined #openttd 17:00:10 *** ThePenguin [~ThePengui@75-128-224-130.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com] has joined #openttd 17:01:54 <ThePenguin> Where do I set the revision number in the SVN? What file is it? 17:03:34 <Eddi|zuHause3> rev.cpp? 17:03:44 *** Greyscale [~greyscale@host81-157-73-129.range81-157.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 17:03:54 <Eddi|zuHause3> ./configure --help 17:04:05 <ThePenguin> I'm on windows 17:04:19 <Eddi|zuHause3> that doesn't stop you :p 17:04:29 <Wolf01> do you have tortoiseSVN installed? 17:04:29 <glx> there's a compile flag for that 17:04:31 <Eddi|zuHause3> (hopefully) 17:04:34 <ThePenguin> yes 17:04:53 <glx> what compiler? 17:05:05 <Wolf01> to check the revision you can right click on the trunk folder and then properties->svn 17:05:13 <ThePenguin> Microsoft Visual C++ 2008 Express Edition 17:05:15 <Wolf01> then follow their indications 17:06:12 <ThePenguin> no I mean in the source code instead of it being OpenTTD norev000 make it OpenTTD rev1000 17:06:43 <glx> no need to change the source code, you just need to add a flag in projects settings 17:10:24 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@xdsl-84-44-202-116.netcologne.de] has joined #openttd 17:10:33 <ThePenguin> which flag is it? 17:10:51 <ThePenguin> I'm really new to C++ and compiling 17:12:36 <Noldo> don't worry about the norev 17:12:39 <Eddi|zuHause3> that kind of information really should go into the wiki 17:13:24 <glx> Eddi|zuHause3: if not used carefully we can get many desync report 17:14:03 <Eddi|zuHause3> yeah, it should come with a big fat warning, of course 17:15:00 <Eddi|zuHause3> but it's the same with norev000 being able to join any server... 17:15:21 <glx> any norev000 server IIRC 17:15:41 <Rubidium> yup... only norev000 servers can be joined by norev000 clients 17:16:32 *** mikl_ [~mikl@0x57372ee2.mrbnqu1.broadband.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 17:16:59 *** Nickman [~nn@d54C1C327.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 17:17:29 *** ThePenguin [~ThePengui@75-128-224-130.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.6/2007072518]] 17:18:58 <Nickman> hi all 17:21:55 *** mikl [~mikl@0x57372ee2.mrbnqu1.broadband.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 17:24:19 <Noldo> Rubidium: I need your opinnion 17:25:06 <Rubidium> get a proper spell checker <- that kind of opinion? 17:25:51 <Noldo> I noticed your comments on FS1114, I can make the changes you proposed, but I would also like to make Money into class 17:29:23 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A5B47.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [] 17:29:48 <Noldo> The question is if you would rather commit fixed FS1114 with Money the way it is now or first do the Money changes and then get back to CommandCost 17:30:12 <Noldo> not implying that either is the certain future 17:33:12 <Rubidium> hmm... 17:33:51 <Rubidium> better idea: make a templated class for overflow safe calculations and make Money an instantiation of that template and then use money in CommandCost 17:34:25 <Rubidium> that way we can reuse the overflow safe calculations everywhere without the need to "misuse" Money or CommandCost for it 17:34:34 <Noldo> good idea 17:37:29 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d51A43614.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 17:37:56 <Noldo> is it enough that it works only for signed values? 17:39:49 <Rubidium> you can easily make it work for unsigned values too (I think) 17:44:54 <Noldo> how can I get the max/min values of given type compile time ? 17:45:08 *** buge [~buge@fox.crimson.ch] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:45:16 <glx> there are #define IIRC 17:45:20 <Rubidium> the "user" has to supply them? 17:45:43 <Rubidium> OverflowSafeInt<int64, INT64_MIN, INT64_MAX> 17:45:51 <Noldo> glx: given as in template 17:46:15 <Noldo> that even makes it more reusable 17:51:01 <Noldo> I need to have "OverflowSafeInt operator+(int64 a, OverflowSafeInt b); 17:52:54 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: glx * r11088 /trunk/src/ (economy.cpp vehicle_gui.cpp): -Fix (r11063, r11067): MSVC warning C4804: '>' : unsafe use of type 'bool' in operation 17:53:06 <glx> nice lag CIA-1 17:53:14 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1FD68.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:55:42 <Noldo> helpers.hpp is a good place for this? 18:02:46 *** ITSBTH_ [~e@host-81-191-171-43.bluecom.no] has joined #openttd 18:02:46 *** ITSBTH [~e@host-81-191-171-43.bluecom.no] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:06:02 *** lolman [~lolman@adsl-87-102-80-216.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 18:07:02 *** Mucht [~Mucht@p57A0D08E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:10:23 *** prakti [~prakti@port-213-148-152-8.static.qsc.de] has quit [Quit: Quitting .... 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You mean default visibility? 18:39:39 <blathijs> Progman: So, there wouldn't be any "converting" needed, just changing of syntax for consistency :-) 18:40:09 <blathijs> Progman: And I don't know if we're gonna do that, perhaps when somebody feels like it :-) 18:40:25 <Rubidium> yes, meant visibility 18:43:17 *** Mucht [~Mucht@p57A0D47C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:46:53 *** pPACO_BAN [PACO@CPE0011d8690c25-CM001225db7ae8.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #openttd 18:51:12 *** Phazorx [PACO@CPE0011d8690c25-CM001225db7ae8.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:53:44 *** Deathmaker [~Miranda@dslb-082-083-208-156.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:56:08 *** AntBUK [~AntB-UK@5ac91a5f.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 18:56:18 *** AntBUK is now known as AntB 19:01:09 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d51A43614.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 19:03:47 *** ITSBTH [~e@host-81-191-171-43.bluecom.no] has joined #openttd 19:03:47 *** ITSBTH_ [~e@host-81-191-171-43.bluecom.no] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:10:15 *** Greyscale [~greyscale@host81-157-73-129.range81-157.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:16:34 <Progman> bug or feature? if you'r running in fast-mode, it runs faster if there is less visible (of the game-window) 19:17:22 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d51A43614.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 19:19:25 <SmatZ> feature 19:19:27 <Belugas> neither bug nor feature. normal logic 19:19:34 <Belugas> less to paint less work to do 19:19:36 <Belugas> i think 19:19:41 <Wolf01> less load for your computer 19:19:45 <Progman> sure 19:20:03 *** Greyscale [~greyscale@host217-42-84-125.range217-42.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 19:22:25 <Progman> but I espect the game just runs N times faster, not faster if there is nothing to draw 19:22:44 <Rubidium> Progman: then you are flawed 19:22:52 <Rubidium> or at least your expectation 19:22:59 <Rubidium> it runs as fast as it can possibly go 19:29:22 *** AntB [~AntB-UK@5ac91a5f.bb.sky.com] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.6/2007072518]] 19:29:56 *** AntB [~AntB-UK@5ac91a5f.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 19:39:15 *** BobingAbout [~BobingAbo@adsl-87-102-70-245.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 19:39:17 *** BobingAbout [~BobingAbo@adsl-87-102-70-245.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [] 19:42:20 <Tefad> Progman: remember swallow mode in simcity? 19:42:32 <Tefad> it just runs the game full throttle. 19:43:14 *** AntB [~AntB-UK@5ac91a5f.bb.sky.com] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.6/2007072518]] 19:43:54 <Tefad> agreed there could probably be a patch for straight N multipliers of speed.. but i doubt anyone cares enough to add it, or if it would be accepted as a useful feature 19:46:07 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-144-3.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 19:49:41 *** G [~njones@202.154.154.157] has joined #openttd 19:49:43 *** AntB [~AntB-UK@5ac91a5f.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 19:53:42 *** MrBrrr [~chatzilla@bas3-montreal02-1096689336.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #openttd 19:56:34 *** G_ [~njones@202.154.154.157] has joined #openttd 19:57:58 <MrBrrr> Which function would be a good starting point to start reading on the load/unload functionality of trains? 19:58:21 *** G [~njones@202.154.154.157] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:59:14 <Rubidium> LoadUnloadVehicle? 19:59:33 <MrBrrr> Thanks ;) 20:03:36 *** scia [~scia@85.149.96.102] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 20:04:37 *** AntB [~AntB-UK@5ac91a5f.bb.sky.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:05:48 *** Nickman [~nn@d54C1C327.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )] 20:08:20 *** Insight` [~askme@host64-21.bornet.net] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.1 :: www.regroup-esports.com )] 20:33:21 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d51A43614.access.telenet.be] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:41:57 <Wolf01> 'night 20:42:04 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host240-239-dynamic.15-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 20:42:53 *** Peakki [antti@cs78151004.pp.htv.fi] has quit [Quit: LÀhdössÀ] 20:43:43 *** iBitch [~me@h204n3c1o1114.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #openttd 20:47:28 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-84-227-150-118.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 20:54:00 *** Purno [~Purno@5357D37C.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 20:59:37 *** RamboRonny [magic.powe@90-230-201-111-no37.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Quit: - nbs-irc 2.36 - www.nbs-irc.net -] 21:00:55 *** elmex [~elmex@e180064188.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:04:39 *** Arpad [~Gali@anonymizer.ccc.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:06:41 *** ITSBTH [~e@host-81-191-171-43.bluecom.no] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:06:52 *** ITSBTH [~e@host-81-191-171-43.bluecom.no] has joined #openttd 21:07:35 *** Arpad [~Gali@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 21:09:21 *** Arpad [~Gali@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:11:25 *** BobingAbout [~BobingAbo@adsl-87-102-70-245.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 21:11:28 *** BobingAbout [~BobingAbo@adsl-87-102-70-245.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [] 21:24:26 *** Dark_Link^ [~glidegame@fw.dormnet.his.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:24:57 *** Dark_Link^ [~glidegame@fw.dormnet.his.se] has joined #openttd 21:27:14 *** Arpad [~Gali@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 21:27:21 *** lenmx4more [~blaa@cable-194-61.iesy.net] has joined #openttd 21:27:49 <lenmx4more> hello 21:28:06 <lenmx4more> some there ? :D 21:29:05 *** Farden [~jk3farden@AMontsouris-156-1-48-147.w90-24.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )] 21:29:36 <nairan_zzZZ> no 21:29:45 <Rubidium> depends what "there" is 21:29:45 *** Purno [~Purno@5357D37C.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Quit: Always remember you're unique, just like everyone else.] 21:30:29 <nairan_zzZZ> no 21:30:52 <lenmx4more> ^^ 21:31:18 <lenmx4more> i got one question about making a game on the internet with openttd :D 21:31:57 <nairan_zzZZ> just ask =) 21:31:59 <lenmx4more> when i open a game on the internet my friend cant see my game @ the list : / 21:32:21 <nairan_zzZZ> did he choose the option advertise server? 21:32:40 <lenmx4more> ya 21:33:19 <lenmx4more> i thought it could be the firewall 21:33:26 <Rubidium> @openttd ports 21:33:26 <DorpsGek> Rubidium: OpenTTD uses TCP and UDP port 3979 for server <-> client communication and UDP port 3978 for masterserver (advertise) communication (outbound) 21:34:12 <lenmx4more> hm nice i try out :D 21:35:40 <Rubidium> as long as your server does not show up at servers.openttd.org you haven't configured your firewall properly 21:37:29 *** Sacro [~Sacro@adsl-87-102-80-216.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 21:38:34 *** Mucht [~Mucht@p57A0D47C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 21:40:35 *** N101 [~Name101@CPE-121-216-143-142.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:42:19 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@145-118-111-234.fttx.bbned.nl] has quit [Quit: leaving] 21:43:47 *** lenmx4more [~blaa@cable-194-61.iesy.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:55:25 *** KouDy [~KouDy@85.207.64.178] has quit [Quit: Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com] 21:56:03 <nairan_zzZZ> ini: trailing characters at end of setting 'advanced vehicle list' 21:56:15 <nairan_zzZZ> ini: trailing characters at end of setting 'loading indicators' 21:56:29 *** Zaviori [~zavior@d195-237-7-209.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 21:56:30 *** Zavior [~zavior@d195-237-7-209.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:56:30 <nairan_zzZZ> i get that at start and after ending ottd. 21:56:52 <Rubidium> either remove those lines from your config file or modify the settings for those patches in-game 21:57:21 *** waxman [~cfluegel@static.88-198-83-123.clients.your-server.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:57:54 *** Zavior [~zavior@d195-237-7-209.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 21:57:54 *** Zaviori [~zavior@d195-237-7-209.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:58:20 <nairan_zzZZ> hmm i dont find those options in config ingame. 21:59:28 <Rubidium> they're both under patches -> interfaces 22:02:52 <nairan_zzZZ> nm deleting those 2 lined in the cfg fix it 22:04:37 <nairan_zzZZ> ok found it there too =) thanks. 22:13:53 *** Priski [priski@xob.kapsi.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:13:58 *** Zavior [~zavior@d195-237-7-209.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:19:17 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x50a4163c.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:22:13 *** Darkebie [~dkb@d5153D5CD.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: VIP Gill ;D] 22:40:34 *** Zavior [~zavior@d195-237-7-209.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 22:44:12 *** Zaviori [~zavior@d195-237-7-209.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 22:49:57 *** ITSBTH_ [~e@host-81-191-171-43.bluecom.no] has joined #openttd 22:49:57 *** ITSBTH [~e@host-81-191-171-43.bluecom.no] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:58:02 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:06:27 *** Jezral [~projectjj@users.kollegienet.dk] has joined #openttd 23:11:02 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@users.kollegienet.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:22:40 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1FD68.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:23:22 *** wleader [~zangetsu@208.79.188.4] has joined #openttd 23:23:40 <wleader> hello 23:24:00 <wleader> anyone got a few minutes to help me figure out a problem with my code. 23:24:02 <wleader> ? 23:26:54 <wleader> I am working on a patch that required me to call GrowTown in town_cmd.cpp from code in clear_cmd.cpp. The problem is that GrowTown isn't in town.h like other functions in town_cmd.cpp. But when I add it to town.h, I get a a linker error: LNK2019: unresolved external symbol. I have to admit that I'm not really experienced enough to know why or what to do about it. 23:29:01 <ln-> remove "static" from the function definition, if it is there. 23:29:45 <wleader> It is there, and I did remove it. I got a similar error, but I don't recall exactly, let me try and see what happens again. 23:30:33 <ln-> the "static" can't be there, that's for sure. 23:30:38 *** ITSBTH_ [~e@host-81-191-171-43.bluecom.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:30:48 <wleader> error LNK2019: unresolved external symbol "bool __fastcall GrowTown(struct Town *)" (?GrowTown@@YI_NPAUTown@@@Z) referenced in function "class CommandCost __fastcall CmdPurchaseLandArea(unsigned int,unsigned int,unsigned int,unsigned int)" (?CmdPurchaseLandArea@@YI?AVCommandCost@@IIII@Z) 23:31:33 <wleader> I really wish that meant something to me. 23:33:34 *** ITSBTH [~e@host-81-191-171-43.bluecom.no] has joined #openttd 23:35:35 <wleader> any other ideas? 23:35:56 <glx> it's a linking error 23:36:04 <wleader> yeah. 23:36:46 <wleader> just to be sure I cleaned, and rebuilt, with the same results. 23:38:03 <SmatZ> did you remove static at town_cmd.cpp: 1190 and : 600 ? 23:39:00 <wleader> Ah, I missed the one at 600. 23:39:30 <wleader> Build: 2 succeeded, 0 failed, 1 up-to-date, 0 skipped 23:39:35 <wleader> Time to test the changes. 23:39:48 <wleader> Thanks ln, glx, SmatZ. 23:44:35 <SmatZ> nice 23:44:48 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@xdsl-84-44-202-116.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 23:45:22 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@xdsl-84-44-128-148.netcologne.de] has joined #openttd 23:46:11 <ln-> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weOcrP7u7Y8 23:49:48 *** ITSBTH [~e@host-81-191-171-43.bluecom.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:51:04 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-144-3.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:58:37 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-103-180.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving]