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00:20:13 *** Greyscale [~Greyscale@host86-150-6-240.range86-150.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:56:39 *** Amix [Michal@cm-84.208.152.166.chello.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:00:51 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-84-226-106-7.adslplus.ch] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:31:07 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B76832.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 01:37:42 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B774B7.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:57:15 *** Rafagd [~kvirc@BHE200150040019.res-com.wayinternet.com.br] has joined #openttd 01:59:42 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B8278D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:01:23 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B83EE3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 02:01:24 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 02:14:20 *** Amixosx [~AmiXoamip@cm-84.208.143.45.chello.no] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 02:52:49 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-164-234.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 02:57:46 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: glx * r11232 /trunk/src/newgrf.cpp: -Fix (r10495): industry tile override works like house override, so handle it in the same way 03:03:46 *** fjb [~frank@p5485EC04.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 03:03:51 <fjb> hi 03:04:08 <fjb> Anybody still awake? 03:04:48 <glx> I am but not for a long time ;) 03:05:27 <fjb> I should be sleeping. But I got some problems with the new newindustries. 03:05:50 <DaleStan> It generally works better to just ask the real question. Then you don't have to deal with the not-an-answer to your not-a-questions. 03:06:29 <fjb> Be patient, my english is not that fast at this time. 03:06:47 <fjb> I tried them out with Georges ECS-Sets. 03:07:20 <fjb> I discovered that there are at most 23 indutries possible. 03:09:07 <fjb> Which that are depend on the sequence the ECS vectors are loaded. 03:10:05 <fjb> Eg: if the agriculture vector is loaded after the wood vector, then there are no woods in the game. 03:13:13 <fjb> The problem occurs with the night builds 11208 and 11226. 03:13:35 <fjb> The ECS vectors are the latest GRFs from Georges site. 03:13:51 <fjb> Is this a known restriction? 03:14:05 <glx> did you check in ttdpatch? 03:14:24 <fjb> Sorry, no Wndows here. 03:14:29 <fjb> Windows 03:14:36 <DaleStan> So? Patch works in wine too. 03:14:47 <DaleStan> In fact, Patchman has no Windows either. 03:15:48 <fjb> Ok, then I have to install wine tomorrow. 03:23:14 <glx> I just compared using same grfs in same order 03:23:31 <glx> I have 33 industries in ttdp and 32 in ottd 03:24:36 <fjb> Oh, what is your order? I only got 23. 03:24:53 <glx> ordered by grfid 03:25:04 <glx> and I am in scenario editor 03:30:49 <fjb> Thank you. Now I'm getting 32 too. Never looked at that id. 03:31:11 <fjb> I also tryed it in the scenery editor. 03:31:11 <glx> but there's still a missing one :) 03:31:19 <fjb> Which one is that? 03:31:25 <glx> tourist center 03:32:00 <glx> and some industries don't accept/produce the same in ttdp and ottd 03:32:30 <glx> more bugs to fix ;) 03:32:48 <fjb> But at least it is mostly working. 03:33:02 <fjb> Belugas did a great job. 03:33:35 * glx needs to sleep :) 03:33:38 <glx> good night 03:33:51 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: bye] 03:34:01 <fjb> Does a log of this conversation exist? Or do we have to fill in a bug report? 03:34:28 <fjb> Anyway, I have to sleep, too. 03:38:10 <fjb> good night 03:38:12 *** fjb [~frank@p5485EC04.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:44:29 *** shodan [user@xerxes.foocode.net] has joined #openttd 03:56:12 *** mcbane [~Maui_key@p5498ED2C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:56:12 *** mcbane [~Maui_key@p5498DF2C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 04:05:02 *** Dephenom [~paul@81-178-15-211.dsl.pipex.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:05:26 *** Dephenom [~paul@81-178-15-211.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #openttd 04:32:10 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-68-26.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:34:14 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-68-26.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 04:38:31 *** AntB [~AntB-UK@81.140.83.104] has quit [Quit: *poof!* I am gone -=- Using ChatZilla] 05:13:35 *** Greyscale [~Greyscale@host86-131-39-202.range86-131.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 06:01:04 *** Zaviori [~zavior@d195-237-7-209.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 06:01:06 *** Zavior [~zavior@d195-237-7-209.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:01:31 *** Zavior [~zavior@d195-237-7-209.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 06:04:55 *** XeryusTC [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has joined #openttd 06:14:27 *** Deathmaker [~Miranda@dslb-082-083-230-227.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 06:15:37 *** |Bastiaan| [~kvirc@77.60.199.137] has joined #openttd 06:26:03 *** Greyscale [~Greyscale@host86-131-39-202.range86-131.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:30:45 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB6A59.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 06:33:42 *** Deathmaker [~Miranda@dslb-082-083-230-227.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:37:12 *** toresbe [~toresbe@9.80-203-71.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 06:37:12 *** Zavior [~zavior@d195-237-7-209.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:37:12 *** Zaviori [~zavior@d195-237-7-209.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:37:12 *** elmex [~elmex@e180065044.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 06:37:25 *** Zavior [~zavior@d195-237-7-209.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 07:06:33 *** Rafagd [~kvirc@BHE200150040019.res-com.wayinternet.com.br] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:22:52 *** Zaviori [~zavior@d195-237-7-209.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 07:40:16 *** boekabart [~boekabart@81.58.27.138] has joined #openttd 07:41:09 *** Hendikins|Work is now known as Hendikins 07:45:19 *** Jezral [~projectjj@users.kollegienet.dk] has joined #openttd 07:52:28 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@users.kollegienet.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:10:51 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@users.kollegienet.dk] has joined #openttd 08:11:12 *** orudge [orudge@78.32.42.132] has quit [Quit: Goodbye.] 08:15:24 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387C0FE.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 08:16:41 *** orudge [orudge@78.32.42.132] has joined #openttd 08:16:44 *** mode/#openttd [+o orudge] by ChanServ 08:17:53 *** Jezral [~projectjj@users.kollegienet.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:26:20 *** Zavior [~zavior@d195-237-7-209.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.1 :: www.regroup-esports.com )] 08:31:02 *** Jezral [~projectjj@users.kollegienet.dk] has joined #openttd 08:37:52 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@users.kollegienet.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:50:28 *** dihedral [~dihedral@joshua.dihedral.de] has joined #openttd 08:50:34 <dihedral> morning ladies :-) 08:53:02 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@users.kollegienet.dk] has joined #openttd 08:59:52 *** Jezral [~projectjj@users.kollegienet.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:00:40 *** Jezral [~projectjj@users.kollegienet.dk] has joined #openttd 09:03:07 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@users.kollegienet.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:07:34 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@users.kollegienet.dk] has joined #openttd 09:10:24 <TrueBrain> I refuse to call the rest of the people in this channel a lady! :p 09:11:19 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has joined #openttd 09:13:42 *** Jezral [~projectjj@users.kollegienet.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:20:16 *** Alltaken [~chatzilla@121-72-235-8.cable.telstraclear.net] has joined #openttd 09:23:57 *** Mark [~Mark@86.84.7.53] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:24:03 <dihedral> TrueBrain: the "rest"? that means that you would call at least one person a lady, and seeing as this person remains unmentioned, i somewhat sounds as if you were addressing yourself :-) 09:24:18 <dihedral> *it 09:27:28 <TrueBrain> I was :p 09:27:38 <TrueBrain> I call myself a lady many times a day 09:27:55 <TrueBrain> but sadly for you guys, it has little to do with my gender 09:28:18 <boekabart> TrueBrain: it's the fact that you like men? 09:28:20 <boekabart> :) 09:28:24 <TrueBrain> nah 09:28:40 <boekabart> the way you walk? 09:28:43 <boekabart> the way you talk? 09:28:50 <TrueBrain> nope 09:28:51 <TrueBrain> nope 09:29:08 <TrueBrain> but I like how you think :p 09:42:30 <Ailure> wtf 09:42:33 <Ailure> I must been drunk 09:42:42 <Ailure> Sometimes I attach a brake van, or caboose at the end of a train 09:42:59 <Ailure> ....seems like I attached a passenger train instead of a break van during a late night of openTTD as one of my trains have that 09:43:20 <boekabart> Ailure: simple misclick 09:43:40 <Ailure> without noticing? 09:43:49 <Ailure> well ok it's a covered carriage truck actually 09:44:00 <Ailure> but I didn't notice it until a few days after, after unpausing the damn game 09:44:01 <Ailure> xD 09:44:10 <Ailure> I sometimes have openTTD on all the time 09:44:21 <Ailure> and just unpause and pause it whenever I feel like playing 09:48:44 <Tefad> i've done that before 09:48:59 <Tefad> one time i started the scenario editor and forgot 09:49:07 <Tefad> came back to OMG TREES 09:51:03 <Ailure> horny little buggers they are 09:51:04 <Ailure> the trees 09:51:13 <Ailure> even if you start with a empty map 09:51:16 <Tefad> yup. 09:51:19 <Ailure> by 2050, the whole map is covered by them 09:51:26 <Ailure> I don't recall it being that crazy in TTO oO 09:51:40 <Tefad> improved tree algorithms. 09:52:00 <Ailure> could be toned down a bit though 09:52:21 <Tefad> all i know is that it makes me piss off towns easier in late game 09:52:31 <boekabart> isn't there this new industry that chops down trees in a circle/square around it? 09:52:49 <Ailure> thinking about the tropic sawmill? 09:52:50 <Tefad> OH NOES, YOU KILLED TEN TREES. YOU CAN'T BUILD THAT STATION NOW. 09:52:50 <Ailure> :P 09:53:08 <Ailure> The temperate sawmill had a funny bug once though 09:53:18 <Ailure> where it acted like a tropical sawmill 09:53:36 <Ailure> my friends thought it was a new feature :) 09:53:39 <Tefad> hah 09:57:15 <Ailure> heh 09:57:24 <Ailure> funny how they work diffrently 09:58:12 <Ailure> then I guess the temperate forest "industry" is supposed to be a tree plantation 10:01:13 *** shodan [user@xerxes.foocode.net] has quit [Quit: Client Exiting] 10:08:03 *** Alltaken [~chatzilla@121-72-235-8.cable.telstraclear.net] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.7/2007091417]] 10:13:32 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1D6C0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 10:35:46 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@ip71.77.1311A-CUD12K-02.ish.de] has joined #openttd 10:39:43 *** LeviathNL [LeviathNL@z037133.its-s.tudelft.nl] has joined #openttd 10:42:53 *** Dephenom [~paul@81-178-15-211.dsl.pipex.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:43:16 *** Dephenom [~paul@81-178-15-211.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #openttd 10:43:38 *** fjb [~frank@p5485C3EA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 10:43:43 <fjb> hi 10:45:47 <TrueBrain> hi 10:47:18 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1D6C0.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:52:54 <fjb> Strage things happen with the new newindustries... 10:53:46 <Eddi|zuHause2> i'm sure you can be less specific than that... 10:54:09 <fjb> I try. :-) 10:54:36 <fjb> I tried them with Georges ECS vector GRFs. 10:55:34 <fjb> The number of Industries you get depends on the sequence in wich the GRFs get loaded. 10:55:40 <Tefad> vector grf? 10:55:50 <Tefad> oh. 10:56:06 *** Amixosx [~AmiXoamip@cm-84.208.143.45.chello.no] has joined #openttd 10:56:09 <fjb> http://george.zernebok.net/newgrf/downloads.html 10:56:21 <fjb> My english is not that great, sorry. 10:57:04 <Eddi|zuHause2> !openttd commit 11191 10:57:05 <_42_> Commit by glx :: r11191 /trunk/src/newgrf.cpp (2007-10-01 18:59:25 UTC) 10:57:07 <_42_> -Fix [FS#1227]: GLS_ACTIVATION stage must be done immediatly after GLS_RESERVE stage, before the GLS_RESERVE stage for the next newgrf. 10:57:46 <Eddi|zuHause2> that commit also caused grf order problems for me 10:58:13 <Eddi|zuHause2> i had to turn around alpine grf and dbsetxl, else i get wrong graphics for refit options 10:58:56 <fjb> glx was here last night and I told him about my problems with the sequence of the ECS GRFs. 10:59:56 <fjb> The things that get produced ba an industry also depend on the loadings sequence of the GRFs. 11:11:26 *** dihedral is now known as dihedral|lunch 11:13:30 *** Arpad [~Gali@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:16:38 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:17:50 <SpComb> http://pb.paivola.fi/298 <-- mm... 11:18:06 <SpComb> load risen a bit 11:18:54 <SpComb> although the way I understand it, openttd doesn't use any CPU when paused? 11:19:13 <Eddi|zuHause2> smells like a dual core processor 11:19:41 *** Arpad [~Gali@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 11:19:43 <Tefad> SpComb: i think it uses very little if any. 11:20:06 <Eddi|zuHause2> well, it has to occasionally check if you unpaused it 11:20:34 <fjb> PID USERNAME THR PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU COMMAND 11:20:39 <fjb> 41478 frank 3 20 0 34880K 27228K kserel 3:51 0.00% openttd 11:20:40 <SpComb> no, it smells like a rather warm single-core processor 11:21:07 <fjb> It uses no visible cpu load when it is pasused. 11:21:15 <SpComb> then pausing them game when there aren't any clients would be a solution 11:21:16 <fjb> paused 11:21:28 <SpComb> or would it be better to have some other kind of pause/unpause logic?? 11:21:56 <Tefad> Eddi|zuHause2: does it check or does it receive mouseover events? 11:21:59 <Eddi|zuHause2> there is a game option that automatically pauses the server, if less than X clients are connected 11:22:14 <Tefad> oh. dedicated? 11:22:14 <Tefad> meh 11:22:39 <Eddi|zuHause2> Tefad: in any case, there must be running a loop checking for events 11:22:43 <fjb> I did never play a multiuser game yet. What happens when there are no clients connected? 11:23:32 <boekabart> fjb: depends on server configuration. It can pause itself 11:23:32 <fjb> The loop doesn't have to use much cpu time. You don't do busy waiting nowadays. 11:24:19 <Tefad> Eddi|zuHause2: meh, i forget this game uses low level languages 11:24:23 <Tefad> yay message loops. 11:24:29 <fjb> boekabart: Thank you. That would be great when the players are sleeping. Else it would be 100 years later when they awake in the morning (or whenever). 11:25:10 <SpComb> the dedicated server uses CPU even with no clients connected 11:25:18 <SpComb> probably ticking the game state along 11:25:57 <boekabart> SpComb: yes, they are probably not paused then 11:29:04 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@ip71.77.1311A-CUD12K-02.ish.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 11:31:04 * SpComb wonders what the effects in terms of gameplay are if the server remains paused when no clients are connected 11:31:51 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 11:31:54 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 11:32:27 <fjb> It's like when you put your Monopoly aside to eat a pizza before you resume playing. :-) 11:32:33 <Tefad> yeah really 11:32:50 <Tefad> it just sits there waiting for connections 11:35:11 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@ip71.77.1311A-CUD12K-02.ish.de] has joined #openttd 11:35:18 <fjb> When does electrified rail cost as much as ordinary rail? 11:39:28 <SpComb> I mean, does it make the server less useable for playing on, or more? 11:39:41 <SpComb> the WLAN here is absolutely horrible 11:39:58 <dihedral|lunch> then try WLAN over there 11:40:13 <SpComb> I'm not sure what it is, but TCP/SSH goes completely stuck 11:40:33 <dihedral|lunch> reception? 11:41:05 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has joined #openttd 11:44:23 <SpComb> it's not just a bad signal, ICMP ping to the gateway is pretty stable at 2-17ms 11:44:42 <SpComb> but somehow TCP connections just get stuck for minutes at a time every so often 11:45:06 <SpComb> you can open a new SSH session once the previous one gets stuck and screen -dr, it's faster than just waiting... 11:45:36 <SpComb> then you use the new session, and after about ten minutes the stuck session wakes up and detaches 11:47:29 <SpComb> oh, and the network is built out of a couple dozen of those cheapest possible D-Link switches 11:47:50 <boekabart> SpComb: that probably has nothing to do with it :) 11:47:51 <gfldex> try a flood ping 11:47:57 <gfldex> and look at packet loss 11:48:01 <SpComb> the wired network is fabulous, though, esp. Trinet, the student organization's network that's available in the accomodations 11:48:18 <Tefad> ok, i know my friend has a netgear switch that sucks at ssh over the wan port 11:48:25 <Tefad> er switch.. wifi router i mean 11:49:02 <SpComb> myottd.net's hosted from underneath my bed via Trinet 11:49:19 <Tefad> hah nice 11:49:24 <boekabart> SpComb: I'm sure that's allowed by their usage policy :) 11:49:34 <SpComb> it is 11:49:41 <boekabart> and the server humming doesn't keep you awake? 11:49:49 <SpComb> no, but the UPS does :/ 11:49:51 <glx> <SpComb> ... cheapest possible D-Link switches <-- like DES-1008D ? 11:49:55 <SpComb> it's a temporary arrangement 11:49:57 <Tefad> BOOP BOOP BOOP 11:50:03 <SpComb> ugh, not switches, I mean WLAN access points 11:50:42 <Tefad> yeah, wifi in general seems to be flaky all around 11:50:47 <SpComb> the only Trinet policy is 15GB/week upload, you can pay 5 euros a month for a static IP + yourhostname.kyla.fi reverse, but the default DHCP reservation never really changes 11:51:19 <SpComb> outgoing tcp port 25 is just about the only blocked port, even incoming port 25 is fine 11:51:31 <Tefad> antispam 11:51:54 <SpComb> indeed, you need to send mail through smtp.kyla.fi, but that's a very sensible policy 11:55:45 <SpComb> it's possible to set up a working Wi-Fi network, but it takes a lot more than just buying a bunch of the cheapest possible APs and sticking them onto windowsills 12:00:23 *** mikl [~mikl@0x57372ee2.mrbnqu1.broadband.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 12:15:13 *** frosch123 [~mtce@pascal.math.tu-clausthal.de] has joined #openttd 12:28:13 <fjb> frosch123: You are from Clausthal? 12:30:47 <frosch123> yup 12:31:10 <frosch123> Why do you ask? 12:31:35 <fjb> I studied there some years ago. 12:32:30 <fjb> I'm still visiting friends there every few weeks. 12:32:51 * SpComb is on his fifth/sixth week at Helsinki University of Technology 12:33:02 <frosch123> Ok, I expected you would talk about beer. 12:34:23 <fjb> No. :-) 12:34:45 <frosch123> *is on his third/fourth last month at Clausthal University of Technology :p 12:34:55 <frosch123> err /me 12:43:05 *** dihedral|lunch is now known as dihedral|work 12:46:22 *** fjb [~frank@p5485C3EA.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12] 12:52:29 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-164-234.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: ThePizzaKing] 12:58:23 *** mikl [~mikl@0x57372ee2.mrbnqu1.broadband.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: Connection reset by Peer Gynt] 12:59:34 *** DaleStan_ [~Dale@pool-71-98-68-26.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 13:02:26 <huma> oi ttders :) 13:05:40 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-68-26.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:05:40 *** DaleStan_ is now known as DaleStan 13:20:25 <Eddi|zuHause2> hm, i have a feeling, waypoint orders do not properly update after relocating the waypoint 13:24:16 <frosch123> Eddi|zuHause2: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=24703&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&hilit=YAPF&start=220 <- something like that? 13:25:14 <Eddi|zuHause2> yeah, something like that 13:27:05 <Eddi|zuHause2> the strange part is, they drive to the waypoint, but then do not switch the order 13:29:53 <Phazorx> hmm, ECS Tourists vector is a bit bugged still? 13:32:36 <Belugas> ecstown, by the way... not ecstourists 13:32:48 <Belugas> and let say that it is a strange vector 13:33:11 <Belugas> but... you did not mentionned what makes you think it is still bugged 13:33:32 <Belugas> nor is it the support for the grf or the grf itself which is bugged 13:35:27 <Phazorx> Belugas: if i use combination of vectors 13:35:29 <Phazorx> like all 13:35:37 <Phazorx> tourists centre isn/t there 13:35:42 <Belugas> we know 13:35:56 <Phazorx> so back to question, it is still bugged? 13:35:59 <Belugas> although we currrently do not know why 13:36:04 <Phazorx> or there is a workaround? 13:36:08 <Phazorx> ahh 13:36:17 <Eddi|zuHause2> alpine ore is still not subject to freight multiplier, and i do not know if that is a grf or an ottd bug 13:36:38 <Phazorx> Eddi|zuHause2: that's inetresting 13:37:05 <Phazorx> is there a list of abbriviations used for cargo translated into their names somewhere? 13:37:31 <Phazorx> and detailed description of constuction vector 13:37:49 <Belugas> not that i know of for last question 13:38:03 * dihedral|work greets Belugas 13:38:04 <Belugas> first question, maybe on ttdepatch wiki, i remember there is a section for ecs 13:38:13 * Belugas waves at Diabolic-Angel 13:38:24 * Belugas waves at dihedral|work 13:38:25 <dihedral|work> lol 13:38:30 <Belugas> gaaaa 13:38:33 <dihedral|work> that was hitting tap a little too early :-D 13:38:38 <Phazorx> the basic vector also says it mods power plants... and i recall seeing it do so in ttdp, not the case for ottd? 13:39:29 <glx> basic doesn't do it alone 13:40:13 <Phazorx> glx: perhaps it is a combination, but since i had all ECS vectors enabled - power plant should have been producing soemthing 13:40:41 <glx> yes sulfur in ttdp but we don't know yet why it doesn't in ottd 13:40:47 <Phazorx> and reason why i asked about construction vector - brickworks take coa and dont take clay 13:40:56 <Phazorx> glx: ahh i see 13:41:34 <Phazorx> also another thing i mentioned - probably grf related - brewery and dock placement on generation stage 13:42:13 <Phazorx> breweries are jam packed in same sity in amounts of 3-6 per, and docks are placed on water tiles, where they obviously sink right away 13:48:28 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 13:53:41 *** Ihmemies [ihmemies@a88-113-24-180.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 13:55:07 *** LeviathNL [LeviathNL@z037133.its-s.tudelft.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:56:14 <Eddi|zuHause2> i think the waypoint bug only applies if the waypoint order is the current order, if you skipped it once, it seems to work fine 13:56:14 *** |frank| [~kvirc@p5485C3EA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 13:56:24 <|frank|> Moin 14:02:37 <Eddi|zuHause2> oh, and i just noticed: "dbg: [yapf] Invalid v->dest_tile == 0x1222E5 (train 65, player 0)" 14:02:49 *** lolman [~lolman@adsl-87-102-80-216.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:02:51 <Eddi|zuHause2> and two dozens more of those 14:03:51 <|frank|> Loks like that train got really lost. :-) 14:03:56 <|frank|> Looks 14:07:04 *** Zaviori [~zavior@d195-237-7-209.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:08:21 *** _Ben_ [~Ben@82.152.249.74] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:09:08 *** _Ben_ [~Ben@82.152.249.74] has joined #openttd 14:11:32 *** Zavior [~zavior@d195-237-7-209.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 14:15:00 *** |frank| [~kvirc@p5485C3EA.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 3.2.0 'Realia'] 14:15:36 *** nzvip [~svip@192.38.109.188] has joined #openttd 14:18:21 *** |frank| [~frank@p5485C3EA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:19:14 *** |frank| [~frank@p5485C3EA.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [] 14:20:45 *** fjb [~frank@p5485C3EA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:21:56 *** boekabart [~boekabart@81.58.27.138] has left #openttd [] 14:23:14 *** KouDy [user@85.207.64.178] has joined #openttd 14:30:02 <Phazorx> hmm... i see 2 kinds of iron ore in ECS, not sure what vector brings them 14:30:05 <Phazorx> but is it normal? 14:30:26 <hylje> :o 14:30:56 *** fjb is now known as fjbAWAY 14:33:36 <Belugas> we are pretty new to the ecs joys 14:33:38 <Belugas> who knows 14:34:07 <Phazorx> http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/6458/screenshothq7.png 14:34:26 <Phazorx> Belugas: i understand that... but you been messing around with NI/NC much mroe than i did 14:34:32 <Phazorx> and perhaps have a better idea 14:35:44 <Phazorx> and 2 kinds of steel mill 14:36:05 <Belugas> true, but not to the same scale as you. Mixing all those sets togueter was never part of my schedule. ONly one or two at the same time... 14:36:12 <Belugas> and knowing waht they do 14:36:23 <Belugas> was not necessary to add all them up 14:36:29 <Belugas> or so did i though 14:36:49 <Phazorx> well differet combinations create different results obviously 14:37:06 <Phazorx> in terms of A + B is not same as placing set A and set B industries 14:37:13 <Phazorx> some are becoming interconnected 14:37:48 <Phazorx> but kinda strange, i got dual iron and steel after trying to deal with sulfur byrestarting with disbaled chemical vector 14:38:07 <hylje> :o 14:38:39 <Belugas> hylje, your comments are more than helpfull... lol 14:39:06 <Belugas> pikka stuff is less tortuous, i have to admit 14:39:08 <Phazorx> seems like hylje's jaw been missing for a while too 14:39:47 <Phazorx> Belugas: yeah, newcargo seemed to work fine too (at elast brewery/petrol part) 14:41:32 <hylje> the jaw is at most loosely connected 14:43:07 <Belugas> so it seems :D 14:43:13 <Belugas> at elast we know you're not a ghost ;) 14:44:35 <Belugas> ECS basically adjusts itself with the different grf been loaded 14:44:51 <Belugas> seems like there are some tests been done that are not correctly performed 14:44:52 <Belugas> dunno 14:45:28 <Belugas> 0lus the fact that the loading and enabling of industries (override/substiture) may have some promlems 14:45:42 <Belugas> you do understant why 0.6 was not yet rbough to you :D 14:46:24 <hylje> in other words newindustries is a huge kludge ;) 14:48:12 <Phazorx> okay most bane of ECS seems to be basic one 14:48:21 <Phazorx> which we should probably bring to george 14:48:35 <Belugas> instant poll... is last hylje's comment subject to a kick? 14:48:39 <Belugas> yes/no 14:48:51 <Phazorx> no, we like hylje :) 14:49:09 <hylje> truebrain might want to differ 14:49:11 <Phazorx> Belugas: is thre sometihng funky about basic specificaly? 14:49:13 <Belugas> so no willbe :) 14:49:35 <TrueBrain> @kick hylje I like kicking any day 14:49:35 *** hylje was kicked from #openttd by DorpsGek [I like kicking any day] 14:50:02 <Phazorx> i guess hylje asked for that by highlighing 14:50:04 <Belugas> depens on your level of funkiness, Phazorx 14:50:11 <TrueBrain> Phazorx: yup, his mistake 14:50:29 <Phazorx> Belugas: if all 7 are enabled - basic aside of bringing lots of things also kills tourists centre 14:51:03 <Phazorx> power plant does nto produce anything in any combination (it is part of basic) 14:51:33 <Phazorx> with disabled chemical basic introduces secondary steel mill and ore mine (default colours and settings) 14:52:08 <Phazorx> npw all that applies only to temperate so far 14:52:14 <Phazorx> have not tried other climates 14:53:22 <Phazorx> w/o basic i seems to have 25 working industries 14:55:05 <Phazorx> this might be interface thing for editor, but - produces/accepts/requires in editor seems to be narroed down to produces/requires 14:55:17 <Phazorx> like it states oil rigs require pax/mail 14:55:34 <Phazorx> and many other industries requre vehicles 14:56:17 <fjbAWAY> I got 32 industries. How many you get depends on the sequence in which the GRFs get loaded. 14:56:17 *** fjbAWAY is now known as fjb 14:56:31 <Belugas> industries can only produce or accept. The requirment is just a matter of callback magic 14:56:48 <fjb> I installed the 8 GRFs from George. 14:57:47 <Belugas> what saddens me is that there can be so many more loaded :( 14:57:53 <fjb> Interchanging the loading sequence gives totally diffent kombinations of availlable industries and the thinks that a single industry produces also change. 14:58:36 <Belugas> because evaluations are done while loading 14:58:46 <Belugas> so order is crucial 14:58:58 <Belugas> in ttdp as well as in ottd. 14:59:08 <Belugas> same mechanism, just different engines 14:59:15 <fjb> But it is really annoying if there are no forrests in a game. :-) 15:00:30 <Belugas> did not said the engine was running fine :P 15:00:31 <Belugas> sadly 15:00:32 <fjb> But at least new industries are usable. 15:00:36 <Phazorx> that means basic and wood mixed fjb 15:01:01 *** hylje [hylje@c214.myrootshell.com] has joined #openttd 15:01:08 <hylje> i knew it 15:01:11 <Phazorx> and i can get 32 but tourist centre and sulphur is missing then 15:01:24 <fjb> You can mix basic and wood, if wood is loaded after basic. 15:01:28 <Phazorx> w/o basic it looks complete and functional 15:01:34 <Belugas> although ecs is really well done, i prefer pikka. i think it is better integrated in the overall look ot the original game 15:01:48 <Phazorx> fjb: what i mean lack of forests means you loaded wood before basic 15:02:05 <Phazorx> Belugas: there are massive gfx glitches with ecs 15:04:05 <fjb> And I prefer the DBset and Long Vehicles. Don't know if that works with Pikkas industries. 15:04:05 *** Dephenom [~paul@81-178-15-211.dsl.pipex.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:04:21 <Rubidium> sorry for saying, but ECS sucks from the beginning already. Quite a few of the graphics totally do not fit TTD (same as the Long (hyper glitchy) Vehicles) 15:04:58 <TrueBrain> hylje: no, you asked for it 15:05:08 <Phazorx> well i'd like to see ERVS working and looking as nice as LV4 does 15:05:25 <Phazorx> fjb: bs doesnt work with ECS 15:05:25 <hylje> TrueBrain: hence i knew it 15:05:33 <TrueBrain> fair enough 15:06:45 <Belugas> I agree with Rubidium (but i would not use "Sucks" hehe) but one thing that is interesting about ECS is the complexity of the processes 15:06:47 <Phazorx> a tourist centre between potash mine 2 refineries and cement works 15:06:54 <fjb> It is graet that new industries are working so far. But it would be even better if more than one set would be working well. 15:06:56 <Phazorx> that is a concetration camp pretty much 15:07:17 <hylje> Phazorx: those pesky tiurists 15:07:26 <hylje> s/ti/to/ 15:07:51 *** Dephenom [~paul@81-178-15-211.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #openttd 15:08:11 <fjb> Maybe they are all indutry bosses, loving to see people work for them. :-) 15:08:28 <fjb> industry 15:08:37 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.159] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:12:06 <Phazorx> well scratch that comment about basic being the only issue 15:12:14 <Phazorx> cement works seems to be tropic only 15:12:28 <Phazorx> although cement requiring industries are in temperate? 15:12:44 *** mikl [~mikl@0x57372ee2.mrbnqu1.broadband.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 15:12:57 <Phazorx> that is a bit weird though 15:14:00 <Rubidium> Phazorx: have you tested the exact same setup in TTDP? 15:14:23 <Phazorx> Rubidium: negative 15:14:31 <Phazorx> i should tohugh 15:14:37 <Rubidium> well... so you don't know whether it is OTTD or ECS 15:14:40 <fjb> glx tested the setup against TTDP last nicht. 15:15:22 <Phazorx> Rubidium: i'd put my bets on ECS 15:15:49 <fjb> There are always 33 industries in TTDP and the industries produce always the same things (but different from what they produce in OpenTTD now). 15:16:11 *** gfldex_ [~dex@dslb-084-058-063-091.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 15:18:22 <Phazorx> fjb: try to start w/o basic vectore and check 2 kinds of steel mill and 2 kinds of ore mines 15:18:30 <Phazorx> they looks the same btu they dont produce same tihng 15:19:12 <fjb> Waht di they produce? 15:19:20 <fjb> do 15:20:01 <Phazorx> 2 different kinds of ore apparently 15:20:08 <Phazorx> and one mines requries vehicles 15:20:16 <Phazorx> and one of steelmills is coal based 15:20:25 <fjb> Funny :-) 15:21:33 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB6A59.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Osai] 15:22:03 <dihedral|work> Phazorx: did the dev server crash again? or did that not happen again? 15:22:08 *** Frostregen [~sucks@dslb-084-058-144-234.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:22:10 <dihedral|work> curious to know what happned 15:22:25 *** Frostregen [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-144-234.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 15:22:59 <Phazorx> never happened since i gdb'ed it 15:23:06 <Phazorx> another bohre bug 15:23:06 *** gfldex [~dex@dslb-084-058-086-187.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:23:30 <glx> heisenbug 15:23:34 <dihedral|work> shame 15:25:27 *** Deathmaker [~Miranda@dslb-082-083-198-255.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 15:26:45 *** Dephenom [~paul@81-178-15-211.dsl.pipex.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:28:53 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r11233 /trunk/src/newgrf.cpp: -Fix [FS#1303]: handle some wrong written station NewGRFs a little more gracefully than segfaulting. 15:30:45 *** Dephenom [~paul@81-178-15-211.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #openttd 15:32:55 *** raimar3 [~hawk@p5489EC6F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:34:02 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.159] has joined #openttd 15:34:30 <Phazorx> hmm... does ttdp nighty has speacial ttdbasew grf? 15:35:26 <Belugas> not 1005 sure, but i think so. 15:35:39 <Belugas> look in ttdp-general section of ttdp forums 15:35:46 <Belugas> i think it is referenced there 15:35:57 <Belugas> but dont' take it as cash 15:40:15 *** raimar2 [~hawk@p5489C4B5.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:42:10 <frosch123> Does someone know, if ssh automatically closes idle connections after some time? 15:42:52 <Rubidium> it shouldn't 15:44:15 <Phazorx> sshd settings can drop idle conenctions 15:44:35 <Phazorx> Belugas: cement can be placed in ttdp on temperate 15:44:48 <Phazorx> w/ or w/o basic 15:48:55 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r11234 /trunk/src/aircraft_cmd.cpp: -Fix [FS#1312]: the explosion vehicles were placed too far to the south. 15:52:54 <fjb> I could buy a cement work in temperate (if I had that much money). 15:53:48 <fjb> The fishing grouds are entitled oil rigs. 15:53:57 <Phazorx> fjb they both are there 15:54:02 <fjb> How do I go fishing anyway? 15:54:09 <Phazorx> and for cement thing apparently you need a rainforest 15:54:12 <dihedral|work> go fish :-) 15:55:05 <fjb> Fish don't have legs. They are not able to go. :-P 15:55:22 <Belugas> fjb, iirc, you should use a ship, refitted for fish 15:55:38 <Belugas> Phazorx: is it good or bad? 15:55:55 <Phazorx> Belugas: ottd behavoir is different from ttdp 15:55:58 * dihedral|work waves at Belugas 15:56:01 <fjb> Oh, ships are not invented yet. We need more ingeneers. 15:56:01 <dihedral|work> :-D 15:56:07 <Phazorx> and ttd doea not require rainforset in temperate for cement works 15:56:53 <fjb> And where did my sulpfur go? 15:57:00 <fjb> sulphur 15:57:02 <Phazorx> fjb: basic set hides it 15:57:18 <Phazorx> by forgetting to mod power plants 15:57:24 <Belugas> i guess you should start to lay down on paper you conclusions, with list/order of grf loaded, landscape, ttdp/ottd behaviours 15:57:44 <Phazorx> Belugas: that sounds liek abug report 15:58:13 <Belugas> agreed. that is why, since you have so many already, you shold start at laying them down 15:58:26 <Belugas> the hell if i'll grab the logs... 15:58:53 <fjb> It should all be in the logs. :-) 15:59:09 <Belugas> ho no... no way.... 15:59:14 <Belugas> way too many lines for that 15:59:16 <Belugas> sorry... 15:59:25 <Belugas> i'm stilla t work, you know? 15:59:33 <Belugas> so... use the proper tool 16:00:01 <fjb> No time. I have to play to find more bugs. :-) 16:00:32 <fjb> And carrying around the new goods is so much fun. 16:00:38 <fjb> :-) 16:01:00 <Belugas> too bad. no time to fix, too much involved at work 16:01:34 <fjb> Ok, we have to fill in bug report then. 16:01:57 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d51A43614.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 16:02:30 <Rubidium> oh noes, that means that Belugas will be busying doing his work till like 23:00 CEST 16:06:23 <Belugas> pretty much, yes... 16:08:45 <dihedral|work> be back later, on my way home :-) 16:09:23 *** dihedral|work is now known as dihedral|away 16:09:53 <Belugas> Phazorx, you forgot to mention the ecs's versions 16:10:10 <Belugas> unless you imply those from george's page 16:10:32 <Phazorx> they are and dates are visible in the list on screenshots 16:10:58 <Phazorx> i did submit wrong screenshot from ttdp though 16:11:04 <Phazorx> it is misisng basic 16:11:29 <Phazorx> i tryed w/ and w/o it on both platforms and ttdp worked and ottd didnt in both cases 16:11:40 <Belugas> gaaaa.... you are right.. 16:11:46 <Belugas> apologies 16:14:42 <Phazorx> i added proper screenie from ttdp now 16:17:17 *** LeviathNL [LeviathNL@z037133.its-s.tudelft.nl] has joined #openttd 16:17:59 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@145-118-111-234.fttx.bbned.nl] has joined #openttd 16:19:49 <Ailure> I wonder if there's some kind of conspriancy 16:20:04 <Ailure> with newindustries getting finished a week before my exams 16:20:04 <fjb> Only one kind? 16:20:12 <Ailure> :) 16:20:25 <Ailure> Not like I have much to study on though, I don't feel behind. 16:20:35 <Sacro> w00t, MSDNAA is back :D 16:20:38 <fjb> It's not finished. Bellugas got the first bug report some minutes ago. :-) 16:20:51 <Ailure> finished as in 16:21:03 <Ailure> finished enough to make PBI playable 16:21:04 <Ailure> :P 16:21:23 <Ailure> I will try out the other newindustries newGRF's after this game though 16:21:24 <fjb> Don't do it. It's really too much fun. 16:21:32 <Ailure> too late 16:21:36 <Ailure> at 1938 already 16:21:43 <Vikthor> fjb: Actually I have reported one bug on Friday 16:21:43 <Ailure> the game is definatly more challanging 16:22:04 * Sacro doesnloads MSDN Library April 07 16:22:13 <Ailure> I thought I would hate it 16:22:20 <fjb> Oh, ok, I missed that bug report, sorry. 16:22:20 <Ailure> but the concept of a limited supply is actually somewhat neat 16:22:24 <Sacro> I will be starting a server later i reckon 16:22:31 <Ailure> and coal dosen't seem to be as overly awesome 16:22:32 <Ailure> in PBI 16:22:35 <Ailure> as it used to be 16:22:36 <Sacro> probably Brianetta's Standard GRF set with Pikka's industries 16:22:44 <Sacro> and maybe a couple of other grfs 16:22:58 <Ailure> that probably something which bothered me in orginal game 16:23:01 <Ailure> it's all about the coal 16:23:38 <Phazorx> you can get ECS not to have coal at all 16:23:48 <Ailure> I want coal 16:23:52 <Ailure> but I want it somewhat nerfed too 16:23:53 <Ailure> :P 16:24:17 <fjb> Planes are great at the later stages of the game. But a Zeppelin is also cool. :-) 16:24:33 <Ailure> yup 16:24:34 <Phazorx> planes ewww 16:24:38 <Ailure> I always wind up using the airship at least once 16:24:39 <Ailure> in my game 16:25:28 <Ailure> rather amusing that it makes a helicopter sound 16:25:55 <fjb> That doen't happen in TTDP, I have been told. 16:26:04 <Ailure> yeah I heard that too 16:26:09 <Ailure> I would check it out in TTDP 16:26:23 *** Deathmaker [~Miranda@dslb-082-083-198-255.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:26:25 <Ailure> ...if my orginal TTD+TTDpatch installation was copied correctly :/ 16:26:25 <fjb> I could not get sound working at all yet. But I didn't miss it either. 16:26:32 <Ailure> for some reason, the TTD binary is missing in my TTD install 16:26:54 <Ailure> I have no idea how that happened :) 16:27:04 <fjb> Hm, not much luck playing without that binary. 16:27:06 <Phazorx> Ailure: previous exam preparation measures probably :) 16:27:32 <Ailure> or me screwing something up 16:27:37 <Phazorx> Belugas: with same set of ECS vectotrs ttdp does not have dual iron/dual steel :| 16:27:37 <Ailure> whne copying files from my old computer :P 16:28:02 <Phazorx> owen can help you :) 16:29:48 <Phazorx> and cannery is missing in that case 16:31:52 *** frosch123 [~mtce@pascal.math.tu-clausthal.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:40:02 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B76832.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:42:07 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host240-239-dynamic.15-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 16:45:27 <Wolf01> hello 16:49:45 <huma> hiya 16:58:32 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@62.243.161.39] has joined #openttd 16:58:32 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 16:58:37 <fjb> Moin 16:59:04 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 16:59:06 <huma> Bjarni: hi 16:59:34 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@145-118-111-234.fttx.bbned.nl] has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:03:17 <Bjarni> hi channel 17:04:15 *** Grey [~Greyscale@host86-134-221-223.range86-134.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 17:06:25 <Sacro> hi Bjarni 17:08:59 <Amixosx> Bjarni: hey 17:09:37 *** |Bastiaan| [~kvirc@77.60.199.137] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 3.2.6 Anomalies http://www.kvirc.net/] 17:09:49 <huma> Amixosx: using mac? 17:10:11 <Amixosx> atm yes 17:15:40 <fjb> Bye 17:15:42 *** fjb [~frank@p5485C3EA.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 3.2.0 'Realia'] 17:19:24 <Amixosx> looks like snow tomorrow night 17:19:42 *** SR-UNA [~una@0x55536ae4.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 17:19:46 <Amixosx> will melt during morning,.. but wow.. i love snow ;) 17:20:25 <SR-UNA> Hi guys, i just found OpenTTD today :D god i love it, i used to play tycoon for hours years back 17:21:29 <hylje> great 17:21:36 <hylje> a content user 17:21:40 <hylje> what did we do :( 17:22:18 <Belugas> lol 17:22:20 <Belugas> we? 17:22:22 <Belugas> heheh 17:22:34 <Belugas> nice to hear SR-UNA :) 17:22:35 <TrueBrain> You broke the Internet! 17:22:36 <Belugas> and welcome 17:26:21 <Amixosx> SR-UNA: nice 17:26:21 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.159] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:26:35 <Amixosx> what sort of os do you run it on? 17:26:50 <SR-UNA> Win :) 17:26:56 <SR-UNA> (XP) 17:27:21 <Amixosx> ahh 17:29:00 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: miham * r11235 /trunk/src/lang/ (croatian.txt dutch.txt hungarian.txt italian.txt): 17:29:00 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Update: WebTranslator2 update to 2007-10-09 19:28:02 17:29:00 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: croatian - 1 fixed by tperic (1) 17:29:00 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: dutch - 3 fixed by habell (3) 17:29:00 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: hungarian - 1 fixed by miham (1) 17:29:01 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: italian - 1 fixed by lorenzodv (1) 17:35:52 *** Tyr_Arcana [~spam@s5714.essex.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 17:37:15 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.159] has joined #openttd 17:37:41 <Tyr_Arcana> hiya all, I'm trying to find out the status of the symbian series 60 port, is it playable? where can I find it? 17:37:57 *** |Bastiaan| [~kvirc@ip87-205-173-82.adsl2.versatel.nl] has joined #openttd 17:38:24 <Rubidium> I've never heard of it 17:38:41 <Bjarni> heh, I just wondered what it could be 17:38:52 <Bjarni> the only word I know in that name is symbian 17:39:03 <Tyr_Arcana> lol, s60 is a smartphone platform 17:39:05 <Bjarni> so... no official port ;) 17:39:24 <Bjarni> but feel free to make one 17:39:50 <Bjarni> if you can get GCC, sdl and stuff for it, then it should be fairly easy to do 17:39:53 <Tyr_Arcana> lol, I would, if I had time/energy/need/etc 17:40:17 *** dihedral [~dihedral@dslb-084-057-238-232.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 17:40:43 <Bjarni> if you don't have the need, then why do you ask for it? 17:40:46 <dihedral> hej hej 17:40:55 <Tyr_Arcana> I'm sure I remember seeing a port listed as being in development by someone 17:41:22 <Tyr_Arcana> lol, its an addiction, not a need =P 17:44:01 <Bjarni> <Tyr_Arcana> I'm sure I remember seeing a port listed as being in development by someone <-- some company in the Philippines did port it, but we aren't related to those guys in any way. They download the source from us (they can due to GPL) and then they release a modified version of it 17:44:22 <Bjarni> and if you donate money to them, it will be for those guys only and we never see any of it 17:44:35 <Bjarni> even though it says "donate for OpenTTD" 17:44:40 <Bjarni> :s 17:46:13 <dihedral> tried it? 17:46:47 *** mikl [~mikl@0x57372ee2.mrbnqu1.broadband.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: Connection reset by Peer Gynt] 17:47:15 <Bjarni> I have seen it on a phone at uni 17:47:26 <Bjarni> it has issues with the screen size 17:47:39 <dihedral> lol 17:47:48 <dihedral> i actaully meant - tried donating :-D 17:47:52 <Bjarni> as we hardcoded a minimum 640 screen width 17:49:17 <Bjarni> well, I mean if you click the donate link, it will not go to our paypal account, but another one (presumably theirs) 17:50:23 <dihedral> and will they donate some of that then to OpenTTD? 17:50:30 <dihedral> :-P 17:50:38 <Bjarni> AFAIK we never got anything from them 17:50:55 <dihedral> send them an email about that :-D 17:51:05 <Bjarni> we already did 17:51:12 <Bjarni> sort of 17:51:21 <Bjarni> I don't think they like getting Emails from us 17:51:54 <dihedral> lol 17:52:05 <Bjarni> the company is known to try to make money on software made by other people 17:52:16 <Bjarni> looks like it's not located on the Philippines for nothing 17:52:18 <dihedral> heh 17:52:31 <dihedral> why not release openttd under lgpl? 17:52:34 <dihedral> :-P 17:54:36 <Bjarni> we can only change that if we get written permission from everybody who ever wrote anything that has ever been committed 17:54:53 <Bjarni> which is kind of a big task 17:56:14 <dihedral> yep 17:56:33 <dihedral> it will only ever get a bigger task the longer you wait :-P 17:57:09 <Bjarni> lol 17:57:21 <Bjarni> the TV news just wrote about a person from "Findland" 17:57:31 <Bjarni> FinDland..... 17:57:41 *** Peakki [antti@cs181247045.pp.htv.fi] has joined #openttd 17:57:50 <Bjarni> speak of the devil 17:58:46 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@145-118-111-234.fttx.bbned.nl] has joined #openttd 17:58:51 <Bjarni> how can you trust news reporters, who can't even spell? 17:59:27 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5acede6c.bb.sky.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:00:05 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5acede6c.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 18:00:09 *** |Bastiaan| [~kvirc@ip87-205-173-82.adsl2.versatel.nl] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 3.2.6 Anomalies http://www.kvirc.net/] 18:01:51 * Tyr_Arcana remembers this window and reads the history about that philippines company 18:03:34 <Tyr_Arcana> hmm... ah well, it'd be tricky to play without a mouse anyway 18:04:18 <dihedral> would it? 18:04:25 <Bjarni> would it? 18:04:38 <Bjarni> it appeared to work ok when it comes to the mouse pointer 18:04:44 <Bjarni> the resolution sucks though 18:04:51 <Tyr_Arcana> I think so, but I've not really tried 18:05:37 <Tyr_Arcana> then again, a friend thought I must be finding it weird having only one mouse button (being on a mac usually), but then I pointed out that the cursor keys scroll, and I use them for website scrolling all the time, so its natural for me 18:05:40 *** ProfFrink [~proffrink@5acede6c.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 18:06:06 <Tyr_Arcana> everyone is different, which is the first thing one must learn when writing interfaces 18:09:30 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1D6C0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:11:15 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5acede6c.bb.sky.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:11:15 *** ProfFrink is now known as Prof_Frink 18:15:51 <Tyr_Arcana> anyways, thanx for the info, I'm off now, gotta cook for my flatmates 18:16:51 <Prof_Frink> s/for // 18:16:51 *** Tyr_Arcana [~spam@s5714.essex.ac.uk] has quit [] 18:17:04 <Prof_Frink> Bah, that fails 18:20:21 <TrueBrain> yeah, Half-Life: Orange Box is released :) (for xbox) How cool :) 18:21:35 <Bjarni> <Prof_Frink> Bah, that fails <-- you don't know what he is going to cook right now 18:24:21 *** Frostregen_ [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-188-023.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 18:24:22 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.159] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:28:41 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB70D4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:30:25 *** Frostregen [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-144-234.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:30:31 *** Frostregen_ is now known as Frostregen 18:35:02 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@145-118-111-234.fttx.bbned.nl] has quit [Quit: bbl] 18:38:36 *** Zr40 [~zr40@2001:960:786:0:21b:63ff:fe9e:ab24] has joined #openttd 18:59:11 *** Zr40 [~zr40@2001:960:786:0:21b:63ff:fe9e:ab24] has quit [Quit: Zr40] 19:02:06 <Wolf01> how does the ECS industries set work? can i load more than one of those sets at once? 19:03:19 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 19:04:04 *** SmatZ [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has joined #openttd 19:05:24 *** matze [~chatzilla@89.244.189.174] has joined #openttd 19:12:37 <glx> Wolf01: yes you can 19:12:37 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-171-87-247.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:13:37 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-171-87-247.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has joined #openttd 19:13:39 <Wolf01> i loaded some of them and i can see only tourists and banks 19:15:29 <glx> order matters 19:15:35 <Wolf01> uhm 19:15:51 <Wolf01> i'll never understand it 19:16:40 <Wolf01> maybe a little readme can be usefull.. is like the sims when you want to install the 2131241 expansions 19:21:52 <Phazorx> order grfs same as grfid 19:22:12 <Phazorx> thay way you only have power plant and cement works not working 19:24:29 <Wolf01> and a good vehicle set for ECS? 19:26:31 <Phazorx> lv4/nars 19:26:41 *** mikl [~mikl@0x57372ee2.mrbnqu1.broadband.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 19:26:47 <Phazorx> i think that si close to only, rather than good 19:26:54 <Phazorx> and you ened latest lv4 19:30:34 *** nfc [~nfc@dsl-hvkgw1-fe6dfa00-187.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:35:22 *** Kejhic_ [~jklamo@81.31.26.224] has joined #openttd 19:36:45 *** Kejhic_ [~jklamo@81.31.26.224] has quit [Quit: Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com] 19:38:24 *** Kejhic [~jklamo@81.31.26.224] has joined #openttd 19:38:33 *** mikl [~mikl@0x57372ee2.mrbnqu1.broadband.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: Connection reset by Peer Gynt] 19:43:11 *** boekabart [~bdb@ip218-114-173-82.adsl2.versatel.nl] has joined #openttd 19:51:05 *** dihedral [~dihedral@dslb-084-057-238-232.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:56:38 <mcbane> heh 102% of the estimated 4000k litres transported.. =P 19:56:54 <glx> it was an estimation ;) 19:57:09 <mcbane> 102%? 19:57:21 <hylje> :> 19:57:22 <glx> 4000k 19:57:25 *** Kejhic [~jklamo@81.31.26.224] has left #openttd [] 19:57:28 <hylje> you're very efficient 19:58:14 <mcbane> using ukrs industries. 19:58:45 <mcbane> but shouldnt the oilwell close down when all oil is transported.. 20:00:24 <mcbane> or is it confused by using the transfer other oil. 20:00:51 <Rubidium> mcbane: it is an estimate; if you do not know what the word means, you should look it up in a dictionary 20:01:09 <Belugas> mcbane: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=32137&start=40 20:01:22 <mcbane> geschÀtzt in german 20:02:10 <Rubidium> mcbane: you should teach your client UTF-8 20:03:09 *** Greyscale [~Greyscale@host86-152-50-35.range86-152.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 20:03:24 *** Peakki [antti@cs181247045.pp.htv.fi] has quit [Quit: LÀhdössÀ] 20:09:19 *** Grey [~Greyscale@host86-134-221-223.range86-134.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:12:29 *** Hendikins is now known as Hendikins|Work 20:12:33 *** matze [~chatzilla@89.244.189.174] has quit [Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.75.1 [SeaMonkey 1.1.4/2007082511]] 20:18:54 <Rexxie> anyone here have any experience with JBOD? 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Patch by SmatZ. 21:03:06 *** huma [~huma@89.19.167.191] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:04:12 *** nfc [~nfc@dsl-hvkgw1-fe6dfa00-187.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 21:11:36 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r11237 /trunk/src/ (rail.cpp rail.h rail_cmd.cpp slope.h): -Codechange: reduce code duplication between GetRailFoundation() and CheckRailSlope(). Patch by frosch. 21:14:14 <Ihmemies> jbod raid0, sounds like.. win 21:14:47 <Ihmemies> i use raid1, because i was too cheap to buy a proper raid5 controller :P 21:15:37 <Ailure> r11229 rubidium 2007-10-08 22:06:37 +0200 (Mon, 08 Oct 2007) 2 lines 21:15:38 <Ailure> -Fix [FS#1307]: one could sell vehicles that were crashed in a depot, which would still yield money. 21:15:49 <Ailure> I'm trying to figure how a train can be inside a depot while crashed 21:15:50 *** Greyscale [~Greyscale@host86-152-50-35.range86-152.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:15:57 <boekabart> Ailure: flooded depot 21:17:06 <Ailure> ahhh 21:17:14 <Ailure> I guess 21:17:28 <Ailure> I seen that happening in a flood 21:17:33 <boekabart> IRL? 21:17:36 <boekabart> ;) 21:17:36 <Ailure> no in the game 21:17:37 *** Zavior [~zavior@d195-237-7-209.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:17:54 <Ailure> before a train could stop a flood 21:18:05 <Ailure> now it still can stop a flood, but only for a few seconds :P 21:19:42 <boekabart> I think we should have smth like a 'walhalla depot' (not @ map) where dead trains go , so you can clone them even if you're not fast enough. Once you have this, you can make flooded vehicles disappear instantaneously. 21:20:07 <boekabart> (of course, not only for trains, but for all vehicles) 21:20:10 <Ailure> I dunno 21:20:20 <Ailure> flooded trains usually disapear too fast for the player to react 21:20:32 *** huma [~huma@89.19.167.191] has joined #openttd 21:20:35 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1D6C0.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:20:37 <boekabart> which is still too slow 21:22:12 <Ailure> yep 21:22:21 <Ailure> it looks rather silly when a train get's flooded 21:22:30 <Ailure> it explodes and stays there for a bit, protecting the rails in meanwhile 21:23:32 <Sionide> but making it look nicer would use up valuable GRF space... 21:23:43 <Ailure> it does? 21:23:49 <Ailure> Thought I guess it would be tricky to program 21:23:49 <Ailure> :p 21:23:55 <Rubidium> ofcourse... 21:24:00 <Rubidium> everything that uses sprites 21:24:18 <Ailure> I meant, I could imagine a somewhat better looking flood 21:24:20 <Ihmemies> code it in 3d! 21:24:20 <Rubidium> we don't have, in contrary to TTDP a sprite range for different types of sprites 21:24:26 <Ailure> would have the train derail like it does when exploding 21:24:29 <Ailure> but without turning black 21:24:40 <Ailure> and the rail below it being flooded too 21:24:47 <Ailure> but that might even require engine changes 21:24:58 <Ailure> far more than it would be worth 21:25:39 *** nfc [~nfc@dsl-hvkgw1-fe6dfa00-187.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:29:48 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r11238 /trunk/src/waypoint.cpp: -Fix [FS#1316]: the orders of trains going to a waypoint where not updated when the waypoint would be moved. 21:33:12 <Wolf01> 'night 21:33:16 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host240-239-dynamic.15-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 21:33:27 *** boekabart [~bdb@ip218-114-173-82.adsl2.versatel.nl] has left #openttd [] 21:37:07 *** David_McMahon [~fake@dsl-fixed-77-44-48-144.interdsl.co.uk] has joined #openttd 21:39:44 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:40:28 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: glx * r11239 /trunk/src/newgrf.cpp: -Fix (r10495): don't do cargo translation when loading grfs, but do it once all grfs are loaded. This ensure correct accept/produced cargo when a grf uses cargo defined in a grf loaded after itself 21:41:38 <Phazorx> glx 21:41:42 <Phazorx> is that ECS related 21:41:45 <glx> yes 21:42:09 <glx> now power station accepts/produces what it should 21:42:15 <Phazorx> can you elaborate a bit on what exactly it affects? 21:42:19 <Phazorx> ah... thank you 21:42:50 <Phazorx> i wonder if dual ore/mill thing is gone now too 21:42:58 <Phazorx> however doesnt sound too relevant 21:50:39 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A7CC0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:51:11 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A7CC0.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [] 21:54:07 <Ailure> heh 21:54:11 <Ailure> there's still a 0.4.8 server up 21:54:17 <Ailure> probably forgotton about 21:54:28 <Ailure> I remember seeing 0.3.X servers for not too long ago 22:00:37 <mcbane> and nighlies >r10000 22:09:42 *** David_McMahon [~fake@dsl-fixed-77-44-48-144.interdsl.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:11:11 *** Rafagd [~kvirc@BHE200150043140.res-com.wayinternet.com.br] has joined #openttd 22:17:49 *** Ihmemies_ [ihmemies@a88-113-24-180.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 22:18:38 *** AntB [~AntB-UK@81.140.83.104] has joined #openttd 22:19:09 *** AntB [~AntB-UK@81.140.83.104] has quit [] 22:21:05 *** KUDr [KUDr@mazanec1.netbox.cz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:21:25 *** Ihmemies [ihmemies@a88-113-24-180.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:24:28 *** KouDy [user@85.207.64.178] has quit [Quit: Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com] 22:24:32 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-89-217-50-102.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 22:26:15 *** Dark_Link^ [~glidegame@fw.dormnet.his.se] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )] 22:32:36 *** KUDr [KUDr@mazanec1.netbox.cz] has joined #openttd 22:32:40 *** Dark_Link^ [~glidegame@193.10.185.3] has joined #openttd 22:39:17 *** joosa` [joosa@heh.fi] has joined #openttd 22:39:56 *** joosa [joosa@heh.fi] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 22:50:44 <dihedral> g'night 22:51:22 *** dihedral [~dihedral@dslb-084-057-238-232.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.7/2007091417]] 22:53:32 *** nfc [~nfc@dsl-hvkgw1-fe6dfa00-187.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 23:02:20 *** LeviathNL [LeviathNL@z037133.its-s.tudelft.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:08:02 *** _42_ [truelight@81.171.98.110] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:09:22 *** Born_Acorn [~bornacorn@81.171.98.107] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:09:22 *** TheMask96 [martijn@sirius-r5.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:09:27 *** Belugas [belugas@81.171.98.110] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:09:27 *** TrueBrain [truelight@81.171.98.110] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:09:37 *** DorpsGek [truelight@81.171.98.110] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:11:04 <SmatZ> good night 23:11:08 *** SmatZ [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:11:32 <mcbane> night 23:11:43 *** mcbane is now known as mcbane_sleep 23:16:28 <Phazorx> pings to openttd.org time out :( 23:23:44 <Sacro> ye[ 23:23:47 <Sacro> *yep 23:25:12 <orudge> yes 23:25:19 <orudge> network downtime for an upgrade 23:25:20 <orudge> it's a bit annoying 23:25:23 <orudge> but shouldn't be more than maybe 20 minutes 23:39:14 <Phazorx> still no pings 23:39:28 <Phazorx> 1395 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss 23:40:59 <Sionide> patience Phazorx! 23:41:26 <Sionide> "you've got to build bypasses! [do upgrades]!" 23:41:34 <orudge> yes 23:41:34 <orudge> well 23:41:43 <orudge> there's nothing I can do about it, alas 23:41:48 <orudge> it's annoying me much more than any of you :p 23:41:51 <orudge> but one just has to wait 23:42:02 <orudge> ah 23:42:02 <orudge> there we go 23:43:02 *** Born_Acorn [~bornacorn@81.171.98.107] has joined #openttd 23:43:16 *** _42_ [truelight@81.171.98.110] has joined #openttd 23:43:40 <Phazorx> svn still isnt up... 23:43:48 *** TheMask96 [martijn@sirius-r5.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 23:44:47 <orudge> yes it is 23:47:56 *** TrueBrain [truelight@81.171.98.110] has joined #openttd 23:48:51 <Amixosx> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZE256BYskXQ 23:53:15 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1D6C0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 23:55:34 *** Digitalfox [~chatzilla@bl7-183-28.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 23:55:56 <Digitalfox> Hello 23:56:23 <Amixosx> hey 23:56:32 <Phazorx> Amixosx is hoping admins are asleep? 23:56:46 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-89-217-50-102.adslplus.ch] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:58:25 *** Belugas_Gone [~jfranc@ip-195.46.99.216.dsl-cust.ca.inter.net] has joined #openttd