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00:01:46 <Wolf01> 'night 00:01:48 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host240-239-dynamic.15-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 00:09:53 <CIA-5> OpenTTD: belugas * r11304 /trunk/src/ (vehicle_gui.cpp window.cpp): -Feature: Control-Clicking the Center Main View button on the vehicle window allows the main viewport to follow the chosen vehicle.(stevenh) 00:11:10 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-150-96.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:15:49 <Sacro> Belugas: nice one 00:15:57 <Sacro> and since when was stevenh a opendev? 00:16:12 <Gonozal_VIII> patch 00:16:22 <Sacro> Gonozal_VIII: eh? 00:16:43 <Gonozal_VIII> that was a patch afaik 00:16:48 <Sacro> yes 00:16:49 *** Gekz [~gekko@CPE-124-183-135-191.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 3.2.6 Anomalies http://www.kvirc.net/] 00:17:00 <Sacro> but since when has he developed for Open? Thought he was Patch 00:17:07 *** Gekz [~gekko@CPE-124-183-135-191.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 00:17:37 <Belugas> he is an opendev? 00:17:52 <Sacro> Belugas: did he not write that patch? 00:17:53 <Belugas> so... why did i commited it? 00:17:54 <Belugas> mmh... 00:17:59 <Belugas> he did 00:18:06 <Belugas> is he an opendev? 00:18:10 <Sacro> well 00:18:15 <Sacro> he just got a patch commited 00:18:17 <Sacro> so i'd say yes 00:18:29 <Belugas> nonsens 00:18:40 <Belugas> but... who am i to say so ? 00:19:02 <Sacro> well... 00:19:07 <Sacro> you are an uber-dev 00:20:42 <CIA-5> OpenTTD: glx * r11305 /trunk/src/industry_cmd.cpp: -Codechange: randomise layout when building an industry ingame 00:21:23 <Belugas> youhou! 00:21:34 <Belugas> and glx is an industrial dev :D 00:22:05 <Belugas> now... which of UKRS trains should i test for that reverse stuff??? 00:22:11 *** Sacro` [~Sacro@adsl-87-102-80-216.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 00:22:46 <Gonozal_VIII> a long one with tender? 00:22:48 <Sacro`> bouncy 00:24:11 <Belugas> come on guys... a bit more helpfull please... 00:24:19 <Sacro`> ? 00:24:28 <Gonozal_VIII> will that be an aditional difficulty option like suggested in the thread? 00:24:53 <Belugas> hu??? 00:25:12 <Gonozal_VIII> erm... maybe different reverse stuff, sorry^^ 00:25:43 <Belugas> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=34509 00:25:44 <Belugas> that 00:25:59 *** Dephenom [~paul@80.175.234.185] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:26:58 <Sacro`> Belugas: what can i do to help? 00:28:17 *** Sacro [~Sacro@adsl-87-102-80-216.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:28:22 *** Dephenom [~paul@80.175.234.185] has joined #openttd 00:28:29 *** Sacro` is now known as Sacro 00:28:56 <Belugas> simple... tell me which grf should i use, which train would be needed, and wehn should that behaviour should occur 00:29:00 <Belugas> really nothing :D 00:29:12 <Sacro> fraid i'm no ttdpatch user 00:29:14 <Sacro> i have no idea :( 00:29:47 <Belugas> gaaa.... 00:29:51 <Belugas> NEXT 00:29:56 <Belugas> Anyone else? 00:30:07 <glx> better ask pikka directly :) 00:31:28 <Belugas> yeah,,, i guess so... 00:31:46 <Belugas> although i'm giving a try with dbxl somehting 00:32:17 <Gonozal_VIII> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=23171 <-- i thought you were talking about that and i don't know anything about that hex value thingie there 00:33:38 <Gonozal_VIII> and dbset is cool :-) 00:39:17 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 00:44:13 <Belugas> if it works, i dont see what is the effect :( 00:52:54 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB71E3.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Osai] 00:53:08 <Belugas> give up for now 00:55:56 <Greyscale> sleep tiem nao. nini 00:56:02 *** Greyscale [~Greyscale@host86-131-41-165.range86-131.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:05:00 *** AntB [~AntB-UK@81.140.72.170] has joined #openttd 01:10:30 *** Frostregen_ 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OpenTTD: miham * r11306 /trunk/src/lang/ (8 files): (log message trimmed) 06:18:49 <CIA-5> OpenTTD: -Update: WebTranslator2 update to 2007-10-20 08:17:35 06:18:49 <CIA-5> OpenTTD: american - 47 fixed by WhiteRabbit (47) 06:18:49 <CIA-5> OpenTTD: brazilian_portuguese - 46 fixed by fukumori (46) 06:18:49 <CIA-5> OpenTTD: catalan - 3 changed by arnaullv (3) 06:18:49 <CIA-5> OpenTTD: italian - 1 changed by lorenzodv (1) 06:18:49 <CIA-5> OpenTTD: norwegian_bokmal - 54 fixed, 1 changed by jhsoby (55) 06:20:16 *** KUDr [KUDr@mazanec1.netbox.cz] has joined #openttd 06:21:54 *** shodan [user@xerxes.foocode.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:31:23 *** peterbrett [~peter@ptbb2b.girton.cam.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 06:41:43 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB793F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 06:42:00 *** Gekz [~gekko@CPE-124-183-135-191.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 3.2.6 Anomalies http://www.kvirc.net/] 06:54:48 *** KouDy [~KouDy@85.207.64.178] has joined #openttd 07:03:12 *** 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:-P] 09:57:08 *** Maedhros [~jc@host86-137-71-114.range86-137.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 10:01:50 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A47BB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 10:07:34 *** ITSBTH [~chatzilla@host-81-191-171-43.bluecom.no] has joined #openttd 10:13:47 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB793F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Osai] 10:14:31 <CIA-5> OpenTTD: truelight * r11307 /branches/noai/ (3 files in 2 dirs): 10:14:31 <CIA-5> OpenTTD: [NoAI] -Fix: AIIndustry::GetProduction should give the production_rate, not the this_month_production 10:14:31 <CIA-5> OpenTTD: [NoAI] -Fix: regression test didn't test GetProduction and IsCargoAccepted 10:15:49 *** TinoM| [~Tino@i5387DFF2.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 10:16:07 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387DFF2.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:19:42 <CIA-5> OpenTTD: maedhros * r11308 /trunk/src/town_cmd.cpp: -Fix (r9315): Change the house id as well as the house spec when using an overridden town building, since the house id is the one that's used to actually build the house. 10:21:09 <Greyscale> Jeee, the AI is flummoxed by hills and snow 10:21:58 <peterbrett> Greyscale: The AI is flummoxed by many things 10:22:10 <Greyscale> :P 10:22:24 <Greyscale> I think its gone bankrupt 10:24:01 <Greyscale> And whats with the unlimited terraforming:? 10:25:08 <Maedhros> it's been that way since 1994, to give the ai at least a semblance of a chance ;) 10:27:20 *** Farden [~jk3farden@AMontsouris-156-1-31-242.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )] 10:28:25 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB793F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 10:33:24 <Greyscale> Maedhros, its making it look like a landslide 10:33:50 <Maedhros> yeah, i know. tis why i turn the ai off 10:35:05 *** Farden [~jk3farden@AMontsouris-156-1-31-242.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 10:35:44 *** G [~njones@202.154.150.116] has joined #openttd 10:37:31 *** G_ [~njones@202.154.150.116] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:37:34 *** TinoM| [~Tino@i5387DFF2.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 10:37:51 <Greyscale> The AI is generally terrible 10:39:18 <skidd13> Anyone in here who knows what config I have to set that git produces a svn readable diff? I only get diffs with: 10:39:18 <skidd13> --- a/src/road_gui.cpp 10:39:18 <skidd13> +++ b/src/road_gui.cpp 10:39:18 <skidd13> I need it without the a/ b/ and am too lazy to replace that by hand or write a scritp therefore ;) 10:39:38 <TrueBrain> svn can't read diffs 10:39:56 <TrueBrain> anyway, I guess you mean TortoiseSVN 10:40:06 <skidd13> TrueBrain: yup your right 10:40:17 <TrueBrain> and thatone doesn't support patch-level 10:40:20 <TrueBrain> which simply sucks 10:41:15 <skidd13> TrueBrain: Any idea? 10:41:24 <ln-> patch levels other than 0 are childish anyway 10:41:25 <TrueBrain> don't use TortoiseSVN :p 10:41:32 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387DFF2.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 10:41:36 <TrueBrain> ln-: tell that to Linus :) 10:41:55 <TrueBrain> (git always has lvl 1) 10:42:11 <Gekz> what's the point of a patch level 10:42:11 <Gekz> -_- 10:42:29 <TrueBrain> that skidd13's patches apply :p 10:42:46 <CIA-5> OpenTTD: truelight * r11309 /branches/noai/ (87 files in 8 dirs): [NoAI] -Sync: with trunk r11145:11308. 10:43:19 <skidd13> TrueBrain: I don't use it (Never ever use Windo$ at home anymore), but the person I give the patch has it only :( 10:43:38 <TrueBrain> poor skidd13 10:43:43 <TrueBrain> so, solution is simple: 10:43:58 <skidd13> And? 10:44:03 <TrueBrain> svn checkout svn://svn.openttd.org/trunk; cd trunk; patch -p1 < ; svn diff > 10:45:48 <skidd13> Hmmpf.... Is that really the way it has to be done. No config? But anyway thanks. 10:46:11 <TrueBrain> there might be other options, but this way for sure works :) 10:46:27 <skidd13> Agreed 10:56:42 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB793F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Osai] 11:00:14 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-84-227-24-36.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 11:01:49 *** LeviathNL [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 11:17:54 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387DFF2.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 11:19:32 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 11:22:02 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387DFF2.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 11:31:15 *** Bakes [~Bakes@110.121.55.236.guam.net] has joined #openttd 11:37:54 *** Zr40 [~zr40@2001:960:786:0:21b:63ff:fe9e:ab24] has joined #openttd 11:52:31 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-158-225.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 11:57:41 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB793F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 12:01:26 <TrueBrain> so there 12:01:36 <CIA-5> OpenTTD: truelight * r11310 /3rdparty/squirrel/ (31 files in 6 dirs): [Squirrel] -Update: updated Squirrel to 2.1.2 12:09:16 *** Gekz [~gekko@CPE-124-183-135-191.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:17:30 <skidd13> @seen dihedral 12:17:30 <DorpsGek> skidd13: dihedral was last seen in #openttd 2 hours, 40 minutes, and 28 seconds ago: <dihedral> morning 12:31:22 *** Grey [~Greyscale@host86-131-41-165.range86-131.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 12:32:09 <Wolf01> uhm... newindustries -> pikka's, forest on slope = foundations 12:33:52 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 12:33:55 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 12:37:15 *** Greyscale [~Greyscale@host86-131-41-165.range86-131.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:38:07 *** Markkisen [~shit@h13n2fls301o1036.telia.com] has joined #openttd 12:38:13 *** MarkSlap [~shit@h-85-24-202-140.NA.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:40:57 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@212.24.150.226] has joined #openttd 12:42:24 <Maedhros> Wolf01: yeah, it's like that in patch too 12:45:59 <Wolf01> i once saw that the trees followed the slope 12:52:39 *** xerxes [user@xerxes.foocode.net] has joined #openttd 12:52:39 *** shodan [user@xerxes.foocode.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:52:41 *** xerxes is now known as shodan 12:58:08 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A47BB.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [] 13:09:58 *** pPACO_BAN is now known as Phazorx 13:10:13 <TrueBrain> 11311 :) Woesh! 13:10:14 <CIA-5> OpenTTD: glx * r11311 /branches/noai/projects/ (openttd.vcproj openttd_vs80.vcproj): [NoAI] -Fix (r11295, r11298): project files update forgotten 13:12:22 *** shodan [user@xerxes.foocode.net] has quit [Quit: Client Exiting] 13:12:53 <Prof_Frink> Bring on r13337 13:16:01 *** KouDy [user@85.207.64.178] has joined #openttd 13:19:41 <Phazorx> 31337? 13:33:53 *** Zr40 [~zr40@2001:960:786:0:21b:63ff:fe9e:ab24] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 13:44:54 *** prakti [~prakti@p5083435F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 13:46:14 *** Roujin [~Roujin@p54971CDD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 13:50:56 *** Phazorx [Pavel@CPE0011d8690c25-CM001225db7ae8.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:51:42 *** Phazorx [PACO@CPE0011d8690c25-CM001225db7ae8.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #openttd 13:56:32 *** egladil [~egladil@83.233.184.124] has joined #openttd 14:02:42 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@xdsl-213-196-229-21.netcologne.de] has joined #openttd 14:12:48 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@145-118-109-253.fttx.bbned.nl] has quit [Quit: 10010001011101100110110111111101] 14:15:19 <Phazorx> what was exactly the issue with 11290 fix 14:15:24 <Phazorx> can someone explan that plz 14:17:34 <hylje> @openttd commit 11290 14:17:35 <DorpsGek> hylje: Commit by rubidium :: r11290 trunk/src/network/core/packet.cpp (2007-10-18 17:44:59 UTC) 14:17:36 <DorpsGek> hylje: -Fix: obiwan in the assertion that checked for overflows when writing a packet, causing still correctly sized packets to cause assertions. 14:17:47 <hylje> off by one assertion 14:17:52 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@xdsl-213-196-229-21.netcologne.de] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 14:20:04 <Ammler> Phazorx: the assert was making fals tests 14:20:10 <Ammler> wrong 14:20:26 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@xdsl-213-196-229-21.netcologne.de] has joined #openttd 14:20:31 <Ammler> he just removed that with an easier one 14:23:29 <Ammler> I guess, svn would be able to show diff between 2 revisions 14:24:04 <Rubidium> svn diff -c 11290 14:26:41 <Ammler> Rubidium: what does "obiwan in the..." mean? 14:27:13 <Maedhros> obiwan -> off by one 14:27:31 <hylje> off [o] by [bi] one [wan] 14:39:44 *** peterbrett [~peter@ptbb2b.girton.cam.ac.uk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:41:01 <SpComb> ha-ha-ha 14:42:24 <hylje> ha ha ha, it's funny! laugh! 14:43:00 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-164-234.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:44:45 <SpComb> I kind of did 14:44:51 <SpComb> but not quite 14:47:28 <hylje> what i typed: "lol" 14:47:33 <hylje> what i thought: ":|" 14:51:23 <CIA-5> OpenTTD: rubidium * r11312 /trunk/src/ (12 files in 2 dirs): -Codechange: implement a overflow safe integer and use that for money and don't misuses CommandCost to have a overflow safe integer. Based on a patch by Noldo. 14:51:49 <SpComb> " lol :| "? 14:52:51 <hylje> exactly 14:53:29 *** Grey [~Greyscale@host86-131-41-165.range86-131.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 15:00:43 *** AntB [~AntB-UK@81.140.72.170] has joined #openttd 15:02:27 *** Greyscale [~Greyscale@host86-137-111-99.range86-137.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 15:02:48 *** Farden [~jk3farden@AMontsouris-156-1-31-242.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:04:01 *** Farden [~jk3farden@AMontsouris-156-1-62-71.w90-24.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 15:10:35 *** AntB is now known as Guest49 15:10:39 *** AntB [~AntB-UK@81.140.83.68] has joined #openttd 15:11:24 <Prof_Frink> Pff, : doesn't do anything, what's the point in piping it? 15:15:27 *** Guest49 [~AntB-UK@81.140.72.170] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:16:33 *** Peakki [antti@cs181247045.pp.htv.fi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:18:00 *** AntB is now known as Guest51 15:18:03 *** AntB [~AntB-UK@81.140.83.68] has joined #openttd 15:19:27 *** Guest51 [~AntB-UK@81.140.83.68] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:21:15 <Maedhros> it can - like this for example :(){ :|:& };: :p 15:21:21 <Maedhros> note: do NOT execute that... 15:21:46 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@145-118-109-253.fttx.bbned.nl] has joined #openttd 15:22:26 *** Farden123 [~jk3farden@AMontsouris-156-1-62-71.w90-24.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 15:24:12 <Prof_Frink> Evil smiley of doom! 15:25:46 <Rubidium> Maedhros: like what "bad" can it do? Waste a few too many CPU cycles, but that's it... or am I overlooking something? 15:26:09 <hylje> :3 15:26:09 <Maedhros> Rubidium: it's a forkbomb 15:26:23 <Progman> its a forkbomb, run for it 15:26:26 <Rubidium> as I said, waste a few too many CPU cycles ;) 15:26:45 <Progman> waste a few cpu cycles? this will maybe crash the system 15:27:10 <Maedhros> depends on whether you've got your ulimits set up properly :) 15:27:50 <Rubidium> it isn't that bad ;) 15:27:54 <Rubidium> I can still IRC ;) 15:29:38 *** Farden [~jk3farden@AMontsouris-156-1-62-71.w90-24.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:29:38 *** Farden123 is now known as Farden 15:31:08 <Phazorx> is there a way to manualy trigger build on pause via console? 15:31:17 <Rubidium> nope 15:31:24 <Rubidium> well... actually 15:31:26 <Rubidium> there is 15:31:29 <Phazorx> ? 15:31:39 <Rubidium> if you've compiled with debug symbols 15:31:47 <Phazorx> ehh.. nope 15:31:49 <Rubidium> gdb ./openttd `pidof openttd` 15:31:58 <Phazorx> that is a fancy way :) 15:32:01 <Rubidium> _cheats[something].value = 1 15:32:03 <Rubidium> cont 15:32:21 <Phazorx> can i bring cheats window from console? 15:32:33 <Phazorx> ctrl+alt+C is a system shortcut here 15:32:49 <Phazorx> so it does not do what intended since it is handled before it get s to ottd 15:32:55 *** nzvip [~svip@3706ds1-amb.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #openttd 15:34:45 <Rubidium> windows key? 15:34:53 <Phazorx> these are disabled 15:35:59 *** orudge` [orudge@pc.lan.owenrudge.net] has joined #openttd 15:36:09 <Rubidium> then you're screwed I guess 15:36:22 <Phazorx> aint that a bitch 15:36:26 <Rubidium> or you must find someone who's going to implement customisable hotkeys for you in a proper manner 15:36:33 *** Peakki [antti@cs181247045.pp.htv.fi] has joined #openttd 15:42:42 *** orudge [orudge@pc.lan.owenrudge.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:48:09 <Ammler> server_lang in Section Network is only to inform players, which language should be spoken, or are there other things? 15:50:23 <Eddi|zuHause3> that's correct 15:50:35 *** nzvip [~svip@3706ds1-amb.0.fullrate.dk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:51:59 <Ammler> I am wondering, where the american flags are comming in the server list 15:52:24 <Ammler> don't find the language here: http://wiki.openttd.org/index.php/Server_lang 15:53:54 <Rubidium> American is just English for people who are too lazy to type the extra u and too lazy to move their (fat) fingers a few millimeters to press the z ;) 15:54:29 <Rubidium> not a very political statement I guess ;) 15:55:29 *** zeroo [k-e-n-n-y@91.84.15.130] has joined #openttd 15:56:06 <Ammler> ??, let me ask in a other way, how do I configure the server to show a english or uk flag? 15:56:17 *** Roujin [~Roujin@p54971CDD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:56:43 <Rubidium> english should give you the english flag 15:56:56 <Rubidium> uhm, the flag of England 15:57:06 <Ammler> because ANY means, you can talk in the language you like 15:57:29 <glx> there's no english flag 15:57:40 <Ammler> uk would be fine 15:57:51 <glx> but if you draw us an us/en flag we will happily use it 15:58:12 <Ammler> us is same as you would show the Austria flag for german 15:58:59 <Ammler> or canada for french 15:59:23 <Ammler> and so on, its just wrong 16:00:03 <Ammler> and confusing, could also mean the servers are for american, not for english speaker 16:00:23 <Prof_Frink> Ammler/Rubidium: I suggested this when it was first done. 16:01:13 <Prof_Frink> I even made an appropriate English flag 16:01:25 <Ammler> show us... 16:02:06 <Ammler> the flag sign is too small to make a combined one, I fear... 16:02:25 <Prof_Frink> Ammler: Hence English, not British 16:02:36 <Ammler> maybe thats the reason they took the american 16:03:07 <Prof_Frink> Why not just put text strings? 16:03:57 <zeroo> Im interested to know how people are able to destroy my track (without being in my company) 16:04:20 <Ammler> zeroo: only a part or the whole company? 16:04:29 <Ammler> was it on sealevel? 16:04:34 <zeroo> no 16:05:05 <zeroo> last night someone destroyed a piece of my main track, then built a station there (preventing me from rebuilding my track) 16:05:25 <glx> are you sure it wasn't an ufo? 16:05:32 <zeroo> yes 16:05:48 <zeroo> this was on a muliplayer server 16:06:10 <Ammler> ufo's can also apear in a MP game 16:06:26 *** Mark [~Mark@5351EA48.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:06:33 <zeroo> it happened again today, when someone deleted my track, built station threw it, then removed the station where my track was 16:07:11 <zeroo> ie, they had there station one side of my track, but one square still on the other side so that it would accept the coal 16:08:09 <zeroo> I could rebuild my track here....but what if i hadnt seen it till all my trains started loosing money? (was 6trains using that line at the time) 16:08:44 <Ammler> have you set a company password? 16:08:56 <zeroo> there was no one else in my company 16:09:17 <Ammler> how do you know? 16:09:32 <zeroo> because the client list would have told me if there was 16:09:46 <Ammler> you were there all the time? 16:10:00 <Ammler> you could watch how your track disapeared? 16:10:00 <zeroo> yeah...i normaly have it open 16:10:45 <zeroo> no...first time i just found a station in the middle (my train were loosing money...so i investigated) 16:10:45 *** dihedral [~dihedral@p54AFE305.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:10:55 <zeroo> it also happened to another players track as well 16:11:54 <Ammler> [18:11] <Ammler> have you set a company password? <-- can you answer this question? 16:12:26 <zeroo> I cant remember if I had set one at the time or not 16:12:36 <zeroo> i normaly leave it open (which is why i have the client list open) 16:12:36 <Phazorx> hmm... how can money be give from one company to another in SP ? 16:13:03 <zeroo> by leave it open = dont password my company 16:15:38 <Ammler> yes, you ansered the question self now 16:15:50 <zeroo> ?? 16:16:10 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A4E73.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:16:28 <Ammler> yeah, if a company has no password, you can join and alter it 16:16:40 <zeroo> ..........i know...but thats not what i said 16:16:55 <Ammler> try it with a password 16:17:07 <Ammler> and come back if it still happens... 16:17:13 <zeroo> if someone had of joined my company, deleted a bit of my mainline and built a station in the way 16:17:22 <zeroo> dont u think id just delete the station and put my track back? 16:17:35 <Ammler> he was too lazy 16:17:37 <zeroo> he WASNT in my company...so it WASNT 'my companys' stations 16:18:18 <zeroo> bah...your a waste of time...ill come back latter 16:18:22 *** zeroo [k-e-n-n-y@91.84.15.130] has quit [] 16:18:23 <Ammler> :) you don't have to scream, just protect your company. 16:19:12 *** FlowaPowa [~Flowa@4va54-4-82-244-103-144.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 16:19:15 <Vikthor> Well somebody could join his company, destroy his tracks than join another company and build the station 16:20:00 <Vikthor> easy as that, and he calls us waste of time ... 16:23:03 <Ailure> heh 16:23:06 <skidd13> If you leave your door open and everybody can see that on your desk are lying a bunch of dollars. No assurance would pay cause you left the door open. 16:23:16 <Ailure> reminds me how I joined other companies in the past 16:23:17 <Ailure> :) 16:23:17 <skidd13> So why he complains its nearly the same. 16:23:23 <Ailure> I usually just change stuff that annoys me though 16:23:33 <Ailure> such as a really awkard junction they built somewhere 16:23:35 <Ailure> to the better 16:23:35 <Ailure> haha 16:24:21 <Ailure> or somethng simple as paying off their loan 16:24:22 <Ailure> :) 16:24:24 <skidd13> Ailure: like break into the neighbors house and clean up his room ;) 16:24:33 <Ailure> I guess 16:24:33 <Ailure> haha 16:26:00 <glx> I do that for AI :) 16:26:29 <dihedral> when a company goes bankrupt, all connected clients (of that comp.) are moved to being a spectator 16:26:41 <dihedral> i.e. company id 255 16:26:53 <glx> yes 16:27:03 <dihedral> could hat behavior be reversed? 16:27:09 <dihedral> i.e. make a console cmd 16:27:18 <dihedral> that can move someone from comp 255 do any company in the game 16:28:14 <skidd13> Yes, a company change command would be cool. 16:28:58 <dihedral> that would make it easiest to make sure, someone building crap is kicked into spectator comp, and those wanting to play legit can be moved to company id 1-8 16:29:11 <dihedral> meaning, nobody would need to know a password 16:29:56 <skidd13> dihedral:theres a little problem: sombody might change the pass during the game 16:30:21 <skidd13> and join after the kick again ;) 16:30:21 <dihedral> that can be disabled :-) 16:30:45 <dihedral> so that those docommands are either ignored 16:31:13 <dihedral> or we add a consolde cmd so that we can read / set the company pw 16:31:35 <skidd13> This behavior could be missused. Players could violatly be moved to another company 16:31:55 <dihedral> rcon only 16:32:01 <dihedral> so admins have to do that 16:32:24 <skidd13> and player with unpasswd companys 16:32:44 <dihedral> passwords will be preset on #wwottdgd 16:32:50 <dihedral> as will companies 16:33:46 <dihedral> my question though is: is this actually possible 16:34:35 <skidd13> Nearly nothing is impossible, its a question of time. 16:34:53 <dihedral> 1-2 hours work 16:35:38 <Ammler> dihedral: depense, who does make it 16:35:47 <dihedral> :-P 16:35:51 <Ammler> for Rubidium / TrueBrain its 5min 16:35:57 <dihedral> s/does make/makes/ 16:36:09 <skidd13> :D 16:36:50 *** LeviathNL [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:37:00 <dihedral> btw: skidd13 - we like your ideas in the forum :-D 16:37:29 <skidd13> I had time to think a few minutes and that was the result ;) 16:37:43 <dihedral> has to work with ttrs though 16:37:59 <dihedral> Ammler suggests it should work if loaded after ttrs grf is loaded 16:38:02 <skidd13> No problem change the order of the grf's 16:38:06 <dihedral> ah 16:38:08 <dihedral> nice 16:40:48 <Ammler> which flag is better for english language: http://www.flags.net/ENGL.htm or http://www.flags.net/UNKG.htm ? 16:41:36 <dihedral> the uk flag 16:41:39 <skidd13> IMO the brittain 16:41:48 <dihedral> lol 16:42:29 <skidd13> oops s/brittain/Great Britain/ 16:42:29 <skidd13> I really need a new keyboard and new fingers too :D 16:42:44 <dihedral> i have a uk keyboard 16:45:22 <Eddi|zuHause3> it's "English (UK)", not "English (England)" 16:48:47 <dihedral> all i need to do is wrap these 2 lines into a console cmd 16:48:49 <dihedral> ci->client_playas = PLAYER_SPECTATOR; 16:48:50 <dihedral> NetworkUpdateClientInfo(ci->client_index); 16:49:14 <dihedral> a comment from TrueBrain, Rubidium or some other dev would be appreciated 16:50:37 <Rubidium> it might or might not work <- you're aprreciated comment 16:50:48 *** AntB is now known as Guest60 16:50:52 *** AntB [~AntB-UK@81.140.71.145] has joined #openttd 16:50:53 <Eddi|zuHause3> "your" 16:50:59 <Rubidium> arg... 16:51:02 <Rubidium> it's maybe too late ;) 16:51:13 <CIA-5> OpenTTD: rubidium * r11313 /trunk/src/ (7 files): -Codechange: prepare several pieces of code so the can handle some new slopes. Patch by frosch. 16:51:16 <Rubidium> but... 16:51:26 <Rubidium> if you're checking grammar and spelling, you failed! ;) 16:51:30 <Eddi|zuHause3> new slopes? 16:51:37 <dihedral> Rubidium: thanks 16:51:40 <Eddi|zuHause3> as in 4 corners saved? 16:51:46 <dihedral> that is at least better than a 'would not work' :-) 16:51:52 <TrueBrain> it won't work 16:51:56 <TrueBrain> now that was easy 16:51:58 <dihedral> :-S 16:52:03 <dihedral> :-P 16:52:33 <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause3: rather the halftile thingy 16:52:43 <Eddi|zuHause3> ah 16:52:49 <Eddi|zuHause3> also great ;) 16:53:02 *** ITSBTH [~chatzilla@host-81-191-171-43.bluecom.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:53:22 <hylje> s/the/they/ ? 16:53:41 <Eddi|zuHause3> hylje: why? 16:53:47 <hylje> to the commit 16:54:02 <Eddi|zuHause3> ah, there 16:54:04 <Eddi|zuHause3> yes. 16:54:15 *** Guest60 [~AntB-UK@81.140.83.68] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:54:22 <skidd13> hylje: are you an english teacher? 16:54:27 <hylje> no 16:54:50 <skidd13> :D 16:54:59 <TrueBrain> dihedral: I don't think it is logical possible to change the player on the server alone 16:55:16 <TrueBrain> you need client modification for it 16:55:17 <dihedral> not even with that second line? 16:55:22 <Eddi|zuHause3> "logically" :p 16:55:33 <TrueBrain> there is only one situation where it is allowed for the server to set the client playas 16:55:34 <dihedral> i mean - that is how companies are closed, right? 16:55:42 <TrueBrain> and that is at join, when the player is set as SPECTATOR 16:55:47 *** ITSBTH [~chatzilla@host-81-191-171-43.bluecom.no] has joined #openttd 16:55:55 <TrueBrain> dihedral: partly correct: it is also done on the client itself 16:56:07 <dihedral> :-S 16:56:16 <TrueBrain> NetworkUpdateClientInfo only broadcasts the changes to all clients about any change 16:56:41 <dihedral> yes 16:56:53 <dihedral> so the client itself gets that packet? 16:57:16 <dihedral> i.e. the client concerned by that action 16:58:16 <TrueBrain> it only updates the clientinfo on the clients too 16:58:22 *** Rafagd [~kvirc@200.196.39.5] has joined #openttd 16:58:22 <TrueBrain> no _current_player is set/reset 16:58:49 <dihedral> that's a shame 16:59:23 <TrueBrain> so, make a new DoCommand in which you handle the logic 16:59:31 <Ammler> another cool thing would be if openttd.cfg could handle something like #include external.cfg 16:59:36 <dihedral> i was going to ask something like that 16:59:40 <TrueBrain> Eddi|zuHause3: and I ment: logistic :p 16:59:50 <dihedral> that was for TB 17:00:07 <Eddi|zuHause3> TrueBrain: still needs "-ly" 17:00:12 <TrueBrain> true :p 17:00:32 <Eddi|zuHause3> but that one is hard for me, too 17:00:39 <Eddi|zuHause3> because there is no such difference in german 17:00:49 <dihedral> so the do command would have to check, am i the client who is being shifted to another company id, if yes do another check 17:00:57 <Eddi|zuHause3> adjectives and adverbs look exactly the same 17:01:06 <dihedral> is it company id 255 - then disable all toolbars 17:01:13 <dihedral> etc... 17:01:26 <TrueBrain> dihedral: that is all taken care of in the code 17:01:36 <TrueBrain> you only have to set _current_player correctly 17:01:39 <dihedral> so i only need the docammnd? 17:01:47 *** DJMirage [~sexybigge@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: www.sexybiggetje.nl] 17:01:48 <TrueBrain> (and for the correct client(s)) 17:01:50 <dihedral> and set that value 17:01:52 <TrueBrain> DoCommand works on Company level 17:01:55 <TrueBrain> not on Player level 17:02:02 <dihedral> ... 17:02:04 <TrueBrain> so... you even need a new network command 17:02:20 <Rubidium> TrueBrain: I guess you need to set _local_player though as _current_player will be reset pretty quickly ;) 17:02:28 <TrueBrain> Rubidium: you are right :p 17:03:07 <dihedral> well - i will need to have a more closer look at that 17:03:33 <dihedral> but for now 17:03:38 <dihedral> i wish you guys a nice evening 17:03:50 <dihedral> i shall do the work while at school during this week :-P 17:04:25 *** dihedral [~dihedral@p54AFE305.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: laters :-)] 17:11:16 <CIA-5> OpenTTD: rubidium * r11314 /trunk/src/vehicle.cpp: -Fix [FS#1356]: stop following a vehicle when you sell/destroyed it. 17:12:10 <Maarten> is there any way to have a server log who joined at what time and with what IP address, e.g. to a .log file I can peek into later? 17:12:27 <TrueBrain> log the console :) 17:13:15 <Maarten> but the console doesn't really log what IP addresses belong to what users, if 2 users join roughly at the same time its often a guess what ip addres belongs to who 17:13:33 <TrueBrain> yup 17:14:09 <Maarten> so the short answer is no :P 17:14:48 <Rubidium> "no" is the answer of a lazy person ;) 17:14:52 *** orudge` [orudge@pc.lan.owenrudge.net] has quit [Quit: reboot] 17:15:18 <Maarten> so there is a better answer then? lets hear it :) 17:15:41 <TrueBrain> not currently 17:15:55 <Rubidium> you can make it log the IP addresses together with the user names 17:16:19 <Maarten> how would I go about doing that? 17:16:55 <Wolf01> i want to trigger an action (which i currently triggered by the mouse button) at mouse movement while the button is pressed, there is a simple way to do it? 17:17:10 <Rubidium> you download/buy a the Hitchhikers Guide to C++ and go ahead with the programming 17:17:20 <Maarten> .... 17:17:47 <Maarten> ok so the answer is: no, but you can program it yourself :P 17:18:00 <TrueBrain> or bribe us :p 17:18:14 <Wolf01> or trash the idea 17:18:19 <Maarten> jah. so in short still no :P 17:18:34 *** Felipe [~Felipe@201-27-6-4.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #openttd 17:18:48 <TrueBrain> but only because it has 1 letter less than yes 17:19:10 <Maarten> sigh 17:21:48 *** Felipe [~Felipe@201-27-6-4.dsl.telesp.net.br] has quit [] 17:22:29 *** pecisk [~pecisk@78.84.139.234] has joined #openttd 17:22:45 <Wolf01> bah, too much to change, abandoned 17:24:14 <Ammler> http://img1.myimg.de/uklistea4633.png 17:24:26 <Ammler> not so nice :)( 17:24:38 <TrueBrain> not nice at all 17:25:18 <glx> now you understand why we use us flag 17:25:52 <Ammler> but it would be easy with english flag... 17:26:16 <AntB> lol, try doing wales flag 17:26:36 <Prof_Frink> AntB: Nah, just have a sheep 17:26:40 <AntB> lol 17:30:02 <skidd13> Ammler how many pixels 17:30:17 <Ammler> 6x8 17:30:34 <Phazorx> lol 17:30:39 <Phazorx> that's for the flag? 17:30:56 <Phazorx> georges cross will fit in there 17:30:59 <Phazorx> but not more than that 17:31:48 <skidd13> Ammler maybe you got me to draw a few seconds 17:31:49 <Ammler> I fiddled the first time with GIMP 17:32:11 <Ammler> I guess, some experienced guys could make it better 17:32:47 <TrueBrain> you need to make 'half' pixels, but as the colors are indexed, that will be really hard :p 17:34:58 <skidd13> yup 17:36:28 <skidd13> On pixel wider and higher and you wouldn't have any problems :( 17:36:30 <TrueBrain> if it was 5x7 or 7x9, it was much easier 17:36:33 <TrueBrain> :p 17:36:45 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@212.24.150.226] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:36:51 <TrueBrain> great minds tend to think alike ;) 17:37:00 <Ammler> let me see, maybe I counted wrong 17:37:41 <Ammler> its 5x8 17:37:51 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@212.24.150.226] has joined #openttd 17:37:58 <TrueBrain> still ugly, but more possible 17:38:21 <Ammler> and it has a 1px black border maybe we could use that too 17:38:32 <TrueBrain> will be ugly compared to other flags 17:38:37 <CIA-5> OpenTTD: rubidium * r11315 /trunk/src/town_cmd.cpp: -Fix [FS#1353]: towns are not growing beyond height differences. Patch by skidd13. 17:39:16 <glx> Ammler: 11x8 17:39:19 <Ammler> Your 'flags.grf' file is corrupted or missing! <-- heh, do I need to encode in a other way 17:39:43 <Rubidium> it's the md5 checksum that doesn't match 17:39:47 <glx> you need to update md5 in source 17:39:56 *** orudge [orudge@pc.lan.owenrudge.net] has joined #openttd 17:39:56 *** mode/#openttd [+o orudge] by ChanServ 17:41:03 <Ammler> omg, yes 11x8, but with border 17:41:07 <Ammler> sorry 17:41:43 <glx> 9x6 without 17:42:04 <TrueBrain> then you can do it 17:42:59 <Ammler> how did I count? 17:43:03 <TrueBrain> not 17:43:23 <skidd13> Hmmpf you need 9x7 to get a more or less nice flage else the middle stripe sucks 17:43:23 <glx> dunno how you did, but you failed ;) 17:43:43 <TrueBrain> skidd13: make the bottom line the background color ;) 17:44:08 <skidd13> Nope invisible ;) 17:44:16 <TrueBrain> even better ;) 17:49:30 <skidd13> http://img248.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ukflaguv3.png 17:50:11 <skidd13> And? 17:51:12 <glx> how does it look ingame? 17:51:54 <Eddi|zuHause3> <TrueBrain> but only because it has 1 letter less than yes <- that excuse does not hold in german... 17:52:01 <TrueBrain> Eddi|zuHause3: neither in dutch 17:52:02 <TrueBrain> so? 17:52:10 <glx> neither in french ;) 17:52:13 <skidd13> Can anyone of the devs in here give me a hint why the mersenne twister is not used. 17:52:14 <skidd13> glx: No idea just t finished drawing 17:52:30 <glx> skidd13: not MP safe IIRC 17:52:30 <TrueBrain> skidd13: I miss the white! 17:52:41 <TrueBrain> skidd13: not MP safe, as glx says 17:53:11 <skidd13> I heared before, but why exactly? 17:53:20 <glx> it's too random 17:53:21 <skidd13> TrueBrain: No space for white 17:53:50 <TrueBrain> my best guess, that the same seed doesn't result in the same random value 17:53:57 <TrueBrain> either BE/LE, or in general, dunno, never really tested it 17:54:11 <skidd13> :( 17:54:40 <Ammler> it takes very long to load when a grf is corrupt, possible? 17:54:47 <skidd13> Cause the randoom values are so much better. Damn, so what about another pseudo random generator? 17:55:01 <TrueBrain> skidd13: or try to find out what exactly goes wrong with thisone 17:55:06 <TrueBrain> ludde had a lot of faith in it.. 17:55:33 <skidd13> But he isn't here :( 17:55:36 <TrueBrain> no 17:55:43 <TrueBrain> so it is your job to find out what is wrong ;) 17:56:07 <ln-> what's mersenne twister? 17:56:13 <TrueBrain> a better randomizer 17:56:25 *** orudge [orudge@pc.lan.owenrudge.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:56:28 <Eddi|zuHause3> ln-: a (pseudo-)random generator 17:56:29 <skidd13> pseudo randomiser to be corredt. 17:56:43 <skidd13> fu***g keyboard. 17:56:51 <Ammler> http://img1.myimg.de/ukliste13a286.png 17:56:58 <Ammler> nice, isn't? 17:57:11 <Eddi|zuHause3> yeah, blame your sausage-fingers on the keyboard :p 17:57:17 <Rubidium> maybe it's that the statespace of mersenne 2500! bytes 17:57:32 <TrueBrain> Ammler: ugl 17:57:32 <TrueBrain> y 17:57:37 <Rubidium> not really nice to check each few frames 17:57:47 <Ammler> TrueBrain: no :( 17:58:00 <Eddi|zuHause3> Ammler: the center is not right... 17:58:29 <Ammler> thats because its one px less 17:59:28 <glx> should be possible to make them 13x10 18:00:17 *** AntB [~AntB-UK@81.140.71.145] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:00:47 *** mikl [~mikl@0x57372ee2.mrbnqu1.broadband.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 18:01:10 <Ammler> maybe too dark 18:02:05 <Ammler> compare: http://img1.myimg.de/ukliste200281.png 18:03:04 <skidd13> Ammler: Keep attention to the violet pixels during recolloration 18:03:44 <skidd13> They are important for the visual impression 18:03:45 <Ammler> yeah, I guess, I am not able to recolor that... 18:04:33 <TrueBrain> it looks like a spider! 18:05:24 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@145-118-109-253.fttx.bbned.nl] has quit [Quit: leaving] 18:06:23 <skidd13> TrueBrain: I agree but if you watch it a while you loose that impression ;) 18:06:46 <Prof_Frink> Ammler: A slightly darker red might be nicer 18:07:06 * Ammler forwards that comment to skidd13 18:07:15 *** orudge [orudge@pc.lan.owenrudge.net] has joined #openttd 18:07:18 *** mode/#openttd [+o orudge] by ChanServ 18:07:34 <Prof_Frink> Rudge McFudge! 18:07:48 <orudge> Frink McDrink! 18:08:01 <skidd13> LOL 18:08:02 <Ammler> orudge is a real british isn't? 18:08:06 <Ammler> http://img1.myimg.de/ukliste200281.png 18:08:11 <Prof_Frink> He's scootish! 18:08:15 <orudge> I'm Brittish! 18:08:33 <orudge> as Singaporekid would say 18:08:36 <Ammler> check that image ^^ 18:08:41 <orudge> Firefox is loading 18:08:57 <Prof_Frink> Failfox. 18:09:31 * orudge i not entirely sure what he should be commenting on 18:09:44 <Prof_Frink> Union Flag! 18:09:58 <Prof_Frink> Get rid of that nasty Merkin nonsense! 18:10:06 <Ammler> it should represent the english language 18:10:24 <orudge> ah 18:10:27 <orudge> who put a US flag in there? 18:10:32 <orudge> I thought it was always a British flag 18:10:46 <Prof_Frink> orudge: Were you using my fosg patch? 18:10:53 <glx> http://glx.dnsalias.net:8080/openttd/bigger_flag.png <-- "any" is 13x10 in this picture (added an ugly green border) 18:10:57 <Prof_Frink> Probably not, really 18:10:59 <orudge> Prof_Frink: not that I'm aware of 18:11:37 <orudge> jesus gejeebus, it was a smelly US flag D: 18:11:41 * orudge boycotts OpenTTD 18:13:15 <orudge> speaking of which 18:13:18 <orudge> I need to build the OS/2 version 18:13:35 <Prof_Frink> Rob will be happy. 18:13:36 <Eddi|zuHause3> count that as first step of you boycott :p 18:13:37 <Ammler> another one from Addi: http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/6884/ukbp7.png 18:14:23 <orudge> also, them's quite a lot of OpenTTD servers running now 18:14:27 <orudge> more than I recall back in the day 18:14:33 <orudge> but then, the game has become rather popular 18:15:17 <Ammler> hmm a lot of empty servers 18:15:27 <orudge> true 18:15:28 *** Dephenom [~paul@80.175.234.185] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:15:34 <Ammler> soeme has about 10 different servers 18:15:41 <Rubidium> @openttd servers 18:15:41 <DorpsGek> Rubidium: Servers online: 151; Running version 0.5.3 (latest): 107; Clients online: 117 18:15:56 <Ammler> 117 clients! 18:15:58 <Rubidium> see... more servers than clients 18:16:33 *** Dephenom [~paul@xxx-185.adsl.newnet.co.uk] has joined #openttd 18:16:37 <orudge> an interesting thing, there 18:16:42 <skidd13> http://img134.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ukflag2hu4.png <-- I changed a the color and tryed a few white px 18:17:25 <TrueBrain> now my eyes turn up-side-down for sure 18:17:25 <skidd13> Better? 18:17:29 *** Addi [~ttdx@cable-dynamic-87-245-83-24.shinternet.ch] has joined #openttd 18:17:33 <TrueBrain> I can't even tell what it is 18:17:47 <TrueBrain> watch out, raditation? Should be yellow in that case 18:17:53 <TrueBrain> does suit England 18:18:17 <skidd13> That would be easy 18:19:14 <orudge> skidd13: that image isn't even loading for me 18:19:17 <orudge> I just get the imageshakc page 18:19:19 <orudge> but no actual image 18:19:22 <orudge> oh, wait 18:19:25 <orudge> it was so tiny I didn't see it 18:19:28 <skidd13> But who knows the english flag. IMO the britain is more known 18:19:30 <TrueBrain> LOL!!! 18:19:42 <orudge> skidd13: if the English flag was put in, I would boycott that too 18:19:44 <Eddi|zuHause3> yeah, i thought exactly that same thing, orudge :p 18:19:47 <orudge> as it's Britain, not England :P 18:19:53 <orudge> and it'd be just as bad as having the US flag ¬_¬ 18:19:58 * orudge thinks the game backround should just be replaced with a giant union flag 18:20:01 <orudge> and that'll be fine and dandy 18:20:30 <Eddi|zuHause3> orudge: you can make a newgrf that makes all ground tiles union flags :p 18:20:40 <orudge> Heh 18:20:52 <ln-> it's a problem that there aren't flags for languages. 18:21:15 <Prof_Frink> So just have 'en_GB' 18:21:16 <skidd13> And a nice waitres, who cares for your tea during playing, will be shipped with the nightlys :D 18:21:24 <Prof_Frink> Tea! 18:21:28 <orudge> Tea! 18:21:30 <orudge> Excellent idea 18:22:22 * Prof_Frink shall finish his tea, then make tea. 18:25:49 <skidd13> I'm off to cinema CU 18:26:04 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A4E73.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [] 18:26:24 <orudge> would that be the Christian Union cinema, then? 18:26:28 <orudge> well, I jest 18:26:28 <orudge> but y'know 18:28:28 <Ammler> which flag do you like most? http://img1.myimg.de/ukliste3fec3a.png 18:29:41 <Ammler> (Original - skidd13 - Addi) 18:30:32 <Prof_Frink> Myddle. 18:31:20 *** FlowaPowa [~Flowa@4va54-4-82-244-103-144.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: FlowaPowa] 18:31:24 <Eddi|zuHause3> the right one needs more blue 18:32:39 <Ammler> I think the middle is too dark 18:32:54 <Addi> hm, as grf my flag looks less good... 18:34:05 <Ammler> oh, which one from you should I take Addi? 18:34:12 <Ammler> maybe I took the worst 18:34:31 <Wolf01> eh if only you can put a bigger flag: http://www.famfamfam.com/lab/icons/flags/ 18:34:44 <Ammler> oh, skidd did a new one 18:35:02 <Addi> no, its just becaue a grf has less colors than my 32bit PC ;) 18:35:05 <Ammler> Wolf01: do you see there a uk flag? 18:35:24 <Wolf01> yes 18:35:32 <Wolf01> last column 18:36:11 <Ammler> ah, yes 18:36:48 <orudge> hmm, what's with this newfangled svn.openttd.org, and what happened to trac, and where can I browse the repository in this thing? :P 18:37:06 <hylje> ottd had trac? 18:37:09 <orudge> yes 18:37:11 <orudge> svn.openttd.org was trac 18:37:11 <hylje> haha 18:37:11 <Phazorx> Ammler: why not use England flag 18:37:14 <Phazorx> ratehr than uk ? 18:37:16 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@145-118-109-253.fttx.bbned.nl] has joined #openttd 18:37:25 <orudge> Phazorx: not a good move 18:37:27 <Ammler> hmm, I guess most people don't know england flag 18:37:40 <Prof_Frink> orudge: I believe trac was utterly raping the openttd.org server 18:37:47 <orudge> and would generally anger Scottish/Welsh/Northern Irish people :P 18:37:50 <orudge> Prof_Frink: well, it was in the past 18:37:54 <orudge> then it was disabled for some time 18:37:55 <orudge> then it came back 18:37:57 <Prof_Frink> Yeah, but they don't matter 18:38:07 <Phazorx> orudge: they speak different language as well as us/cabnada and na/ozzies 18:38:14 <Phazorx> na-nz 18:38:15 <hylje> cabnada 18:38:21 <Prof_Frink> It's not like any of them have ops on IRC or anything like that... 18:38:22 <Ammler> :) 18:38:47 <Phazorx> orudge: and as i recall there is not much of welsh on union jack 18:38:56 <orudge> indeed not 18:39:00 <orudge> but it still implies Wales as well 18:39:08 <orudge> whereas the English flag implies England only 18:39:15 <Phazorx> oruge welsh being most different from english actualy 18:39:15 <Prof_Frink> This time next week 18:39:22 <Prof_Frink> I shall be welshed! 18:39:31 * orudge welshes Prof_Frink right here, right now 18:39:39 <Prof_Frink> And, probably, drunk. 18:40:14 <Prof_Frink> With, from what I hearm a lot of freshers. 18:40:34 *** Roujin [~Roujin@mnch-4d04949a.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 18:42:49 <Prof_Frink> Me? The 13th duke of Wybourne? 18:43:11 <Prof_Frink> In a hut in the middle of nowhere in wales? 18:43:22 <Prof_Frink> With a load of freshers? 18:43:27 <Prof_Frink> With my reputation? 18:46:50 <Ammler> one of them should it be: http://img1.myimg.de/ukliste40e241.png 18:47:12 <orudge> the 2nd is probably best, imo 18:47:32 <Ammler> orudge: the darf one? 18:47:39 <orudge> er 18:47:42 <Ammler> !s/darf/dark/ 18:47:43 <orudge> the first one that isn't the US flag 18:47:46 <orudge> but yes 18:50:30 <Ammler> hmm, do I need to make a patch or how to submit grf changes? 18:50:44 <Addi> whats wrong at this command: E:\TransportTycoonDeluxe\openttd\data\grfcodec.exe -d openttd.grf 18:51:05 <Addi> doesnt work 18:51:27 <Ammler> is grfcoded in the data folder? 18:51:36 <Addi> yes, sure 18:51:55 <DaleStan> What's the error message? 18:51:55 <Ammler> so just grfcoded -d openttd.grf 18:52:20 <Ammler> in that folder (-d+c) 18:52:34 <Addi> just a black window for a half second 18:52:39 <Addi> no error message 18:52:51 <Ammler> you don't have a folder sprites? 18:53:12 <DaleStan> Then open up a command prompt and try again. Because GRFCodec never dies without an error message. 18:53:15 <glx> flags are not in openttd.grf 18:53:16 <Addi> oh, a openttd.grf doesnt exist... 18:53:25 <Ammler> :) 18:53:33 <Addi> where are the flags? 18:53:37 <Ammler> flags.grf 18:53:45 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 18:53:51 <glx> anyway openttd.grf should exist 18:54:25 <Addi> hm, didnt earlier all opettd sprites in a openttd.grf? 18:54:37 <glx> in 0.5.x they are 18:54:53 <glx> but only 4 flags are available in this version 18:55:18 <Addi> but a flags.grf also doesnt exist... 18:55:31 <glx> it does in nightlies 18:55:37 <Ammler> addi, you need a nightly 18:55:48 <Addi> where are the flags in the stable version? 18:55:53 <glx> openttd.grf 18:56:08 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has joined #openttd 18:56:26 <Addi> lol? but there is NO openttd.grf and NO flags.grf 18:56:39 <glx> then you have a problem 18:56:50 <Ammler> where are you looking? :) 18:57:35 *** LeviathNL [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 18:59:16 <Addi> lol, im so stupid! :) first i rename the openttd.grf to save it and then i try to decode the openttd.grf, which doesnt existed anymore :) 18:59:29 <Addi> work now 19:00:53 <Roujin> ooo 19:01:17 <Roujin> some beautiful things in the last few trunk updates :> 19:01:44 <glx> Ammler: it's possible to use 13x10 flags, but for that we need to redraw all flags 19:01:46 <Roujin> just read the log 19:02:15 <Roujin> "-Codechange: prepare several pieces of code so the can handle some new slopes. Patch by frosch." <--- i have high hopes that this has to do with a certain patch ^_^ 19:02:33 <glx> what is your guess Roujin ? 19:02:51 <Roujin> maybe halftile..? 19:03:06 <hylje> tell me moar 19:04:13 <Roujin> halftile foundations patch by frosch... http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=34298 19:06:17 <Roujin> also a lot of fixes for newIndustries lately 19:06:50 <Roujin> something about fixing the "water check" -> seems to be the reason why i was unable to build the "resort" tourist industry 19:07:18 <glx> Roujin: not related 19:07:30 <glx> ECSTown disable this check 19:08:04 <Roujin> ok then i guessed wrong ^^ 19:08:36 <glx> ECSTown industries are hard to place 19:08:47 <glx> I know how to place 3 of them 19:08:59 <Roujin> the industry ones? 19:08:59 <glx> but I always need to try many times 19:09:06 <Roujin> arg 19:09:11 <Roujin> the tourist industries i mean 19:09:15 <glx> yes 19:09:33 <Roujin> i know the tower, thats pretty simple 19:09:48 <Roujin> and the standard tourist center, of course 19:09:55 <glx> the glitchy one 19:10:06 <Roujin> yes 19:10:23 <Roujin> what's with that glitch, anyways? 19:10:23 <Ammler> btw, there is started a wiki documentation about ECS... 19:10:38 <Roujin> is that a .grf issue or a OpenTTD issue? 19:10:49 <Roujin> i mean, is it glitchy in TTDP aswell? 19:10:51 <glx> grf issue, it's a big sprite 19:11:03 <Roujin> i see 19:11:17 <glx> it should use at least 4 sprites, but it is not finished yet I think 19:11:41 <Addi> what do you think about this uk flag: http://img146.imageshack.us/my.php?image=uk2wx4.png 19:12:25 <Roujin> as for the castle, i managed to place it one time... but i almost broke my fingers trying >< 19:12:55 <Roujin> that one's a real b**** :P 19:13:11 <Ammler> Addi: nice, glx suggested to rise the size to 13x10, but then its needed for all flags... 19:13:35 <Addi> ...if the devs want this... 19:13:49 <glx> http://glx.dnsalias.net:8080/openttd/bigger_flag.png <-- only "any" resized 19:13:52 <Ammler> hmm, glx is one of them, I guess :) 19:14:57 <glx> looks not bad, so if someone wants to resize all flags... 19:15:08 <Addi> but with 13x10 do we have problems with all the 3-stripes-flags 19:15:26 <Addi> like german, french nag all the other... 19:15:37 <Ammler> 13x9 then... 19:16:32 <Ammler> glx, something agains 13x9? 19:16:38 <Ammler> +t 19:16:39 <glx> 13x10 is the max, but smaller should be ok too 19:16:56 <Addi> and what is with the french flag? 19:17:05 <Addi> 9x12 should be better 19:17:20 <Addi> for this flag 19:17:35 <Ammler> addi you mean 12x9? 19:17:41 <Addi> yes... 19:17:54 <Ammler> but is odd lengths not better for general use? 19:18:55 <glx> see what you can do ;) 19:19:20 <Ammler> maybe also adding american as own language 19:20:00 <Addi> i think one flag for english is enough... 19:20:34 <Roujin> 12 is nice because it can be used for two stripes, or three stripes of same size 19:21:12 <Ammler> don't forget the border 19:21:40 <Ammler> hmm 19:21:50 <Addi> did you mean 13x10 WITH the border? 19:21:55 <Ammler> maybe the borders could also removed... 19:22:02 <Eddi|zuHause3> why is there a border needed anyway? 19:22:13 <Addi> looks better with border 19:22:15 <glx> Roujin: http://glx.dnsalias.net:8080/openttd/tourist.png 19:22:26 <Eddi|zuHause3> flags don't usually have a border 19:23:22 *** FlowaPowa [~Flowa@4va54-4-82-244-103-144.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 19:23:36 <TrueBrain> cool image glx :) 19:24:17 <Eddi|zuHause3> i don't really like that look... it does not fit in with TTD very well 19:24:38 <Ammler> Eddi|zuHause3: there are other newindustries as well 19:24:45 <Ammler> like the sand pit 19:25:37 <Eddi|zuHause3> but i was talking about exactly this one 19:27:35 <Ammler> http://wiki.ttdpatch.net/tiki-index.php?page=ECSTVTCNeuSchwansteinCastle 19:29:21 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@145-118-109-253.fttx.bbned.nl] has quit [Quit: leaving] 19:30:23 <Eddi|zuHause3> that's so weird, the mediterranean beach club in temperate, and the alpine castle in subtropic... 19:32:40 <hylje> o 19:32:43 <hylje> sure 19:33:31 <LeviathNL> strange: http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/29/screenshot3ou7.png & http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/4284/screenshot2ya3.png 19:34:34 <glx> yeah finally built a castle \o/ 19:35:51 <Eddi|zuHause3> LeviathNL: i'd say conflicting industry grfs 19:36:01 <Ammler> do you need to terraform exactly how its in the wiki, glx? 19:36:16 <glx> yes 19:36:20 <Ammler> wow 19:37:00 <glx> and some luck too (to get the right layout when trying to build 19:37:15 <Eddi|zuHause3> you don't have any real chance of these being autogenerated :p 19:37:40 <glx> maybe with original land generator 19:37:50 <Ammler> where is the real "Goodrich Ariel", if I google for it, I get the ttdpatch wiki patch? 19:37:51 <glx> but it's impossible with tgp 19:38:03 <hylje> :o 19:40:21 <Ammler> and where do you have to click? 19:40:32 <Ammler> on which tile? 19:40:39 <Eddi|zuHause3> even getting straight coast for the beach center is rare 19:40:54 *** DJ_Mirage [~sexybigge@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 19:40:59 <Eddi|zuHause3> but the one-tile peaks is nearly impossible 19:42:08 <Eddi|zuHause3> what are townzones 1-4? 19:46:46 <Ammler> sadly, SpComb has no nightly on his myottd.net 19:46:56 <Ammler> liked to start a server per language 19:47:19 *** McHawk [~hawk@p5489FD1E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:51:14 <SpComb> the layout of the svn repo is quite different from what the releases have 19:51:26 <SpComb> never took much time to look at how it differs too closely 19:51:46 <glx> it's just cleaner 19:51:59 *** Rafagd [~kvirc@200.196.39.5] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:53:28 <Ammler> SpComb: do you adding a nightly to myottd.net? 19:55:04 <Ammler> ah, you are "stealing" the settings from the source and now, that doesn't fit to nighty :) 19:57:03 <SpComb> not sure if that bit works in the nightlies or not 19:57:18 <SpComb> but it's something that'd break somewhat easily 19:57:37 <Wolf01> uhm i got an assertion on today's nightly 19:57:46 <TrueBrain> Wolf01: that sucks 19:57:48 <TrueBrain> fix it! :p 19:58:04 <Wolf01> command.cpp line 626 19:59:04 <glx> Wolf01: http://bugs.openttd.org/task/1355 20:00:07 <Wolf01> in fact, the AI just sold 3 vehicles 20:02:25 <Wolf01> good, anoter clay pit closed... now there are only 2 in the map.. 512*512 20:02:41 <Wolf01> and the other one is on the other side 20:02:46 <Ammler> Wolf01: smooth economie? 20:02:50 <Wolf01> yes 20:03:28 <Ammler> that doesn't work well with new industries 20:04:03 <Rubidium> Ammler: in what way doesn't it work well with the new industries? 20:04:04 <glx> shouldn't be a problem now 20:04:23 *** LeviathNL [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:04:36 <Ammler> Industries disapear very fast 20:04:54 <Ammler> I guess, Eddi|zuHause3 recommend me, to switch it off 20:05:07 <glx> if they use production callbacks, smooth economy is disabled for them 20:05:40 <Ammler> thats new, isn't? 20:06:13 <glx> at least 1 week 20:07:18 <CIA-5> OpenTTD: rubidium * r11316 /trunk/ (7 files in 3 dirs): -Codechange: add support for the half-tile (selection) graphics. 20:07:31 <glx> @openttd commit 11207 20:07:31 <DorpsGek> glx: Commit by glx :: r11207 trunk/src/industry_cmd.cpp (2007-10-05 17:53:45 UTC) 20:07:32 <DorpsGek> glx: -Fix [FS#1301]: don't use smooth_economy for industries using production callbacks as they may have no production for more than a month 20:07:56 <glx> 2 weeks ago indeed 20:08:08 <Ammler> almost since beginning of new industreis 20:08:37 <glx> closing is just random for them now 20:08:59 <Ammler> sorry then, I take back my statement, but it seems to apear more offen 20:09:29 <glx> it may be the grf decision 20:09:36 <glx> cb 29/35 20:10:07 <Ammler> yeah, possible, I will have a better look next time then.., thanks anyway :) 20:10:16 *** LeviathNL [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 20:10:44 <glx> at least they don't all close in the first month :) 20:11:19 <glx> that was the problem with smooth economy 20:12:38 <Ammler> yes 20:15:58 <CIA-5> OpenTTD: rubidium * r11317 /trunk/src/roadveh_cmd.cpp: -Fix [FS#1355]: don't read a variable of a destroyed vehicle as the value will be reset to 0. 20:26:41 <CIA-5> OpenTTD: rubidium * r11318 /trunk/src/viewport.cpp: -Codechange: add the actual support for drawing selections on halftiles, r11316 just added the things needed to load the sprites. Patch by frosch. 20:39:34 <Wolf01> half tile selection? 20:40:28 *** LeviathNL [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:40:56 *** LeviathNL [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 20:50:18 *** KouDy [user@85.207.64.178] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:54:16 *** KouDy [user@85.207.64.178] has joined #openttd 20:54:45 *** Grey [~Greyscale@host86-131-43-188.range86-131.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 20:54:54 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1D19D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:56:20 *** [1]Bakes [~Bakes@110.121.55.236.guam.net] has joined #openttd 20:56:37 <Wolf01> 'night 20:56:43 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host240-239-dynamic.15-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 20:59:02 *** Greyscale [~Greyscale@host86-137-111-99.range86-137.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:02:02 *** Bakes [~Bakes@110.121.55.236.guam.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:02:02 *** [1]Bakes is now known as Bakes 21:02:12 *** Peakki [antti@cs181247045.pp.htv.fi] has quit [Quit: LÀhdössÀ] 21:04:28 <CIA-5> OpenTTD: rubidium * r11319 /trunk/src/ (landscape.cpp landscape.h rail_cmd.cpp slope.h): -Add: halftile- and anti-zig-zag-foundations. Patch by frosch. 21:05:30 <CIA-5> OpenTTD: rubidium * r11320 /trunk/ (5 files in 2 dirs): -Codechange: make lower halftiles at coast floodable. Patch by frosch. 21:12:23 *** Addi [~ttdx@cable-dynamic-87-245-83-24.shinternet.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:14:13 *** ITSBTH [~chatzilla@host-81-191-171-43.bluecom.no] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.8/2007100816]] 21:16:27 <LeviathNL> halftile-foundations, nice 21:31:58 <LeviathNL> r11320 crashes, just says Segmentation fault (core dumped) 21:32:46 <Ammler> LeviathNL: halftile isn't finished, just prepared for... 21:32:59 <LeviathNL> ah ok 21:33:18 <Rubidium> LeviathNL: it doesn't segfault for me 21:33:45 <LeviathNL> I'll try a totally new build 21:35:40 <Ammler> or is it finished? 21:35:51 <Ammler> :) 21:36:07 <Phazorx> Ammler: yesterdays beta for #wwottdgd ? 21:36:22 <LeviathNL> there isn't a -feature svn log entry 21:36:36 <Phazorx> yesterdays nighty for #wwottdgd beta i mean 21:39:49 *** Grey [~Greyscale@host86-131-43-188.range86-131.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:39:50 <Ammler> omg, its finished, nice work Rubidium (and frosch) 21:40:14 <CIA-5> OpenTTD: rubidium * r11321 /trunk/src/ (gfxinit.cpp gfxinit.h newgrf.cpp table/landscape_sprite.h): -Codechange: add support to load different graphics for halftile slopes using a NewGRF. Patch by frosch. 21:41:01 <Phazorx> earth calling ammler 21:41:02 *** Greyscale [~Greyscale@host86-131-34-203.range86-131.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 21:41:34 <Ammler> sorry Phazorx, I am fascinating about halftile 21:41:40 <Ammler> or how is it called 21:41:41 <Phazorx> lolz 21:41:48 <Phazorx> fascinated :) 21:41:59 <Phazorx> ddint realize it is that easy to get your excited 21:42:28 <Phazorx> still though, please answer the question 21:42:34 <Phazorx> i want to give the map a spin 21:43:42 *** lhunath [~lhunath@ip-81-11-169-32.dsl.scarlet.be] has joined #openttd 21:44:07 <Ammler> looks really nice, and I am not sure, if that was easy :) 21:44:48 <lhunath> Is 'new AI' still abandoned? 21:45:03 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@xdsl-213-196-229-21.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 21:45:14 <lhunath> and if so, is there an alternative to have AI in multiplayer? 21:45:47 <Rubidium> have (more) real human players? 21:46:50 <lhunath> too bad. 21:47:15 <Ammler> why do you like play mp with computers? 21:47:20 <lhunath> humans get pissy when you beat them. 21:47:22 <Rubidium> well, there's something that is being worked on, but it isn't finished 21:47:39 <Rubidium> it's called NoAI 21:47:51 <LeviathNL> Belugas, indeed a totally new build latest svn does not crash 21:48:20 <glx> LeviathNL: wrong hl 21:48:55 <lhunath> cool. 21:49:04 <Rubidium> just add a few more colourfull lines for Belugas and he may be happy 21:49:08 <Rubidium> won't you Belugas? 21:49:12 <Phazorx> how long till nighty run? 21:49:31 <Phazorx> nighty compiile farm run 21:49:35 <glx> 20h10 21:49:43 <LeviathNL> glx, whats a hl? 21:49:53 <glx> highlight 21:49:57 <lhunath> is there anything interesting in the nightly that's not in 0.5.3? 21:50:19 <glx> newhouses, newindustries, ... 21:50:25 <LeviathNL> trams 21:50:35 <glx> one way roads 21:50:38 <lhunath> oh, trams are only in the nightlies? Bummer. 21:50:57 <LeviathNL> http://wiki.openttd.org/index.php/New_Features_Since_0.5.0 21:51:06 <lhunath> guess I'll have to manually compile it; there seems to be no Mac build for it. 21:51:32 <Phazorx> lhunath: i see 3 macos builds 21:51:34 <LeviathNL> any way I could openttd to give more info while crashing? 21:51:45 <Rubidium> lhunath: look in the "archive" as the OSX version kinda fails compiling 21:51:51 <glx> Phazorx: not for today 21:52:21 <Phazorx> glx: ahh interesting 21:53:30 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@145-118-109-253.fttx.bbned.nl] has joined #openttd 21:53:33 <Rubidium> interesting and unsolvable without having a mac ;) 21:55:16 <Rubidium> although, maybe google has an answer 21:55:37 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x50c79a03.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 21:55:38 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 21:55:38 *** Addi [~ttdx@cable-dynamic-87-245-83-24.shinternet.ch] has joined #openttd 21:55:41 *** Addi [~ttdx@cable-dynamic-87-245-83-24.shinternet.ch] has quit [] 21:55:46 *** Addi [~ttdx@cable-dynamic-87-245-83-24.shinternet.ch] has joined #openttd 21:57:57 *** KouDy_ [user@85.207.64.178] has joined #openttd 21:58:17 *** Jezral [~projectjj@users.kollegienet.dk] has joined #openttd 21:58:20 <lhunath> Rubidium: what's interesting and unsolvable? 21:58:24 *** [1]Roujin [~Roujin@mnch-4d04949a.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 21:58:43 <Rubidium> the OSX compilation issue with current trunk 21:59:34 <ln-> url? 21:59:41 *** pecisk [~pecisk@78.84.139.234] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 22:00:25 <Bjarni> http://bugs.openttd.org/task/1357 22:00:31 <Bjarni> but I'm looking at it right now 22:00:33 <LeviathNL> looks like newwater.grf is crashing ottd 22:00:50 *** hajo [~hajo@IP-213188108134.dialin.heagmedianet.de] has joined #openttd 22:01:10 <LeviathNL> makes sense somehow 22:02:00 * Ammler tries that 22:02:22 *** Farden123 [~jk3farden@AMontsouris-156-1-62-71.w90-24.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 22:02:32 <LeviathNL> also I get this warning: dbg: [misc] Invalid display value: fulls. fulls seems to refer to fullscreen in the misc section 22:03:14 * Ammler has no problem with current trunk and newwater 22:03:17 <Rubidium> works ok for me 22:03:44 <Ammler> Rubidium: any change for BigBB's patch? 22:03:55 <Ammler> chance 22:03:59 <LeviathNL> hmm lets try again maybe some combination. I only concluded it did not crash with the newwater.grf 22:04:38 *** Roujin [~Roujin@mnch-4d04949a.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:04:38 *** [1]Roujin is now known as Roujin 22:04:53 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@users.kollegienet.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:05:13 *** KouDy [user@85.207.64.178] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:08:40 <Rubidium> Ammler: they're in trunk already 22:09:08 *** Farden [~jk3farden@AMontsouris-156-1-62-71.w90-24.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:09:08 *** Farden123 is now known as Farden 22:09:17 <Ammler> but then should work newwater nice, not? 22:09:28 <Ammler> I don't mean the face thing 22:12:58 *** mikl [~mikl@0x57372ee2.mrbnqu1.broadband.tele.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:14:09 <LeviathNL> I don't think it is ready to be included, it is not yet complete it seems and the trunk bugs he fixed/is going to fix will probably need to be separate patches 22:15:18 *** mikl [~mikl@0x57372ee2.mrbnqu1.broadband.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 22:15:52 <LeviathNL> Lets hope BigBB, frosch & boekabart will make some nice water patches 22:17:58 <ln-> where is the station name sign drawn? 22:18:15 <LeviathNL> Ammler, Rubidium did you try generating a map with newwaterw.grf in the latest nightly? 22:19:58 <Rubidium> yes 22:20:59 <Rubidium> ln-: viewport.cpp IIRC 22:23:05 <ln-> thanks 22:23:17 *** dihedral [~dihedral@p54AFE305.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 22:24:16 *** Digitalfox [~chatzilla@bl7-184-80.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 22:25:07 <LeviathNL> This really annoys, I seem to have a list of grf's which makes the game unstable but I can't find out why... 22:27:23 <Ammler> LeviathNL: load them one by one 22:27:51 <Ammler> if you like to use "secure" GRFs, you can use the pack from #openttdcoop 22:27:58 <Digitalfox> Rubidium: Shouldn't the road be allowed to be conected even if it is in slope?? http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v514/Digitalfox/open1.png 22:28:08 <dihedral> hi 22:29:12 <dihedral> how long does it usually take for the mac nightlies to be ready? or is it done manually? 22:29:35 <Rubidium> Digitalfox: no, cause there is no way to tell that it should stay leveled 22:29:44 <LeviathNL> Ammler, I tried that it doesn't work, sometimes removing any(!) grf will work to solve the problem :/ 22:30:39 <Rubidium> Digitalfox: adding that extra roadbit "wants" to make it go down the slope, which changes the slope of the current piece of road, which makes it impossible to change 22:31:28 <Ammler> Digitalfox: you can bridge that part, can't you? 22:31:47 *** peterbrett [~peter@ptbb2b.girton.cam.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 22:33:05 <Digitalfox> Ammler: That's not the point :) What i was trying to discover was if it was a hard coded function or a bug.. But Rubidium has explained why it happens, thanks Rubidium :) 22:33:59 *** mikl_ [~mikl@0x57372ee2.mrbnqu1.broadband.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 22:36:48 <Digitalfox> !seen belugas 22:36:48 *** LeviathNL [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:36:49 <_42_> Digitalfox, please look a bit closer at the memberlist of this channel. 22:37:13 *** LeviathNL [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 22:37:20 <Digitalfox> lol, i wanted to know when he last talk 22:44:41 <dihedral> got this with r11286, some time this evening: 22:44:47 <dihedral> openttd: /var/www/users/openttd/openttd-nightly/src/network/core/packet.cpp:136: void Packet::Send_string(const char*): Assertion `this->size < sizeof(this->buffer) - strlen(data) - 1' failed. 22:51:10 <Ammler> dihedral: its fixed with 11290 22:51:17 *** prakti [~prakti@p5083435F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Quitting .... Hackedi...hackedi...weg.] 22:51:18 *** Gekz [~gekko@CPE-124-183-135-191.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 22:51:19 <dihedral> k 22:51:23 <dihedral> thx 22:51:46 <Digitalfox> dihedral: Always test with the last nightly or if you can compile with the last build :) 22:52:29 <Ammler> dihedral should know that :) 22:52:54 <dihedral> Digitalfox: i know that - just could not remember if it had been fixed a few revs before or after that rev 22:53:09 <dihedral> and i am not anywhere near a place i could check that atm 22:53:26 <Digitalfox> ok ;) 22:53:35 *** Gekz [~gekko@CPE-124-183-135-191.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has quit [] 22:54:37 *** Gekz [~gekko@CPE-124-183-135-191.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 22:56:50 *** Ihmemies [ihmemies@a88-113-24-180.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 22:57:07 <Ihmemies> http://xkcd.com/304/ this isn't youtube! 22:57:40 *** mikl_ [~mikl@0x57372ee2.mrbnqu1.broadband.tele.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:59:49 *** mikl_ [~mikl@0x57372ee2.mrbnqu1.broadband.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 23:00:54 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@212.24.150.226] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:04:59 *** KouDy_ [user@85.207.64.178] has quit [Quit: Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com] 23:08:18 *** hajo [~hajo@IP-213188108134.dialin.heagmedianet.de] has left #openttd [Konversation terminated!] 23:09:07 <Bjarni> I don't get it 23:09:21 <Bjarni> not the remark about youtube or the comics point :( 23:15:04 <Ihmemies> i suppose one gets the point only if he/she has read the ender books :P 23:15:36 <Ihmemies> and i just had to paste some link, since youtube links are banned :( 23:16:45 *** peterbrett [~peter@ptbb2b.girton.cam.ac.uk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:17:03 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@212.24.150.226] has joined #openttd 23:17:03 <glx> nobody forces you to paste links 23:18:14 <Bjarni> hmm.... knowing ender's game or speaker of the dead might help understanding it 23:19:04 <Bjarni> I think the no youtube link rule is a bit odd. It's not like it's unsuitable for decent people or anything 23:20:17 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@212.24.150.226] has quit [] 23:20:45 <Ihmemies> maybe there are many laestadians around 23:21:04 <Bjarni> what is a laestadian? 23:21:21 <Ihmemies> argh :P 23:21:52 <Bjarni> you are a funny guy... you make odd reference and presume that everybody knows them :P 23:22:12 <Ihmemies> sorry :( 23:22:33 <Bjarni> actually that fact is funnier than your jokes :D 23:22:35 *** mikl_ [~mikl@0x57372ee2.mrbnqu1.broadband.tele.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:27:52 <ln-> Bjarni: http://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lars_Levi_L%C3%A6stadius 23:28:40 <Ihmemies> Ê 23:28:43 <Ihmemies> what that means? :D 23:30:06 <Ihmemies> well.. wiki seems to have an answer for that too 23:30:28 *** dihedral [~dihedral@p54AFE305.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: sleep well ladies] 23:31:16 *** Rafagd [~kvirc@200.196.39.5] has joined #openttd 23:36:25 <Bjarni> Ê.. that's basically a letter 23:36:42 <Ihmemies> i didn't know what letter... 23:36:44 <Bjarni> a and e combined to make a new sound 23:36:46 <Bjarni> well 23:36:48 <Ihmemies> well 23:36:51 <Ihmemies> i mean 23:36:56 <Ihmemies> it's a letter.. but... :D 23:37:00 <Bjarni> here it is: Ê and in uppercase: à 23:37:20 <Bjarni> it's in the alphabet between z and Þ 23:37:56 <Ihmemies> ÃÊ 23:38:03 <Ihmemies> that's nasty to type on non-norwegian keyboard 23:38:14 *** mikl_ [~mikl@0x57372ee2.mrbnqu1.broadband.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 23:38:24 <glx> using a non utf8 client 23:38:25 <ln-> not at all 23:38:34 <Bjarni> I don't have problems doing that 23:38:34 <ln-> alt gr + À 23:38:36 <Bjarni> ÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊ 23:38:42 *** lhunath [~lhunath@ip-81-11-169-32.dsl.scarlet.be] has left #openttd [] 23:38:44 <Ihmemies> :( 23:38:47 <Bjarni> actually here it's just the à key 23:39:01 <Bjarni> it's between the L and the à keys 23:39:20 <Ihmemies> altgr+À doesn't work on mirc :| 23:39:26 <Bjarni> :P 23:39:27 <ln-> encyclopÊdia 23:39:37 <Ihmemies> nor word 23:39:42 <ln-> Ihmemies: that's not my fault 23:39:51 <Ihmemies> sucky software. 23:40:03 <Bjarni> it's nice to be able to type all the letters you *might* need 23:40:07 <Ihmemies> but altgr+m gives µ 23:40:17 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-158-225.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:40:18 <Ihmemies> that's at least something 23:40:34 <Bjarni> à <-- I like this letter, but the question is how much I will be using it as it seems that the Germans don't like it anymore and replace it with "ss" 23:40:48 <Bjarni> so Germany is introducing ss these days :P 23:41:00 <ln-> the ss 23:42:15 <Bjarni> heh I just found a new char on my keyboard:  23:42:17 <Ihmemies> i thought they decided ... that the letter i can't type is ok after all 23:42:27 <Ihmemies> hmm 23:42:46 <Bjarni> now that's an awesome char to add but I wonder when I will never need that one XD 23:42:57 <Bjarni> maybe if I get hungry while writing something 23:43:41 <ln-> Ω 23:44:02 <Bjarni> that's no good 23:44:10 <Ihmemies> à damnit 23:44:20 <Bjarni> you are resisting my key to get food 23:44:34 <glx> Ihmemies: stop writing squares ;) 23:44:40 <Ihmemies> hmm 23:44:48 <Bjarni> Â¥ <-- when will we ever need this char? 23:44:54 <Ihmemies> how i can know wheter i'm writing squares or not? 23:44:59 <Jezral> For Japanese currency? 23:45:02 <Bjarni> oh isn't it the Yen sign? 23:45:06 <Ihmemies> yes 23:45:08 *** Jezral is now known as TinoDidriksen 23:45:18 <Bjarni> then we might need it anyway :) 23:45:22 *** Digitalfox [~chatzilla@bl7-184-80.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Quit: Bye] 23:45:45 <ln-> ⧠23:45:54 <glx> € <-- I don't know what it is 23:46:02 <Bjarni> it's a square 23:46:09 <Bjarni> :P 23:46:17 <ln-> it's the international monetary sign 23:46:24 <ln-> ... assuming i see what glx sees 23:46:27 <TinoDidriksen> It is 23:46:38 <glx> a circle with cross parts 23:46:45 <LeviathNL> a bug crush it with your feet 23:47:07 <Bjarni> ⊠<-- when will you need this one? I mean: when can't you just do ...? 23:47:10 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1D19D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 23:47:23 <TinoDidriksen> Elipsis 23:47:26 <Ihmemies> à does that still show up as square? 23:47:35 <glx> it's ok now Ihmemies 23:47:49 <Ihmemies> seems mirc supports utf encoding too :o 23:48:38 <Ihmemies> http://xkcd.com/325 23:48:46 <Bjarni> I like when somebody on the forum said that we should get rid of some of the unused chars in OpenTTD and introduce those he needed in his translation. He pointed out ¿ as an unused one :P 23:49:03 <Bjarni> we didn't take it out for more than one reason 23:49:11 <TinoDidriksen> It is not unused. 23:49:30 <Bjarni> it is 23:49:41 <Bjarni> in the spanish.lng 23:49:46 <Ihmemies> now i've read them all :-( 23:49:54 <Ihmemies> what now? definitely not penny arcade 23:50:14 <Bjarni> go buy an office chair on Ebay 23:50:35 <ln-> ⧠â â ¢ â § â š â â â 23:51:05 <glx> there are chars for roman numbers? 23:51:13 <Bjarni> looks like it 23:51:21 <ln-> except for the first two 23:51:26 <Ihmemies> ÙÙ ÙØØ© ع؞٠23:51:27 <Ihmemies> uuh 23:51:35 <LeviathNL> last 3 are not roman numbers here 23:51:40 <Ihmemies> this supports also those weird crowtoes 23:52:00 <ln-> â ROMAN NUMERAL FIVE THOUSAND 23:52:10 <glx> D 23:52:11 <Ihmemies> do they have 9000? 23:52:23 *** Farden [~jk3farden@AMontsouris-156-1-62-71.w90-24.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )] 23:52:23 <Ihmemies> :-I 23:52:48 <ln-> â ROMAN NUMERAL TEN THOUSAND, so 9000 would be ââ 23:53:02 <Bjarni> now I ran out of funny stuff to write using this keyboard :/ 23:53:05 <ln-> â â with more spaces 23:53:10 <Ihmemies> cool 23:53:31 <ln-> though this is the first time i hear big roman numerals being expressed like that. 23:53:34 <Bjarni> ã¢ãããããã 23:53:39 <Ihmemies> same here 23:53:43 <Ihmemies> i thought they stopped at M 23:54:19 <Bjarni> so can any of you decrypt what I just said? :) 23:54:20 <ln-> i though they'd use ¯ on top of the normal letters to indicate thousands, e.g. 23:54:23 <ln-> _ 23:54:25 <ln-> V = 5000 23:54:30 <glx> Bjarni: and in romaji ? 23:54:37 <TinoDidriksen> Nah, that's what we modernised it as. 23:54:39 <Bjarni> movin on 23:54:45 *** mikl_ [~mikl@0x57372ee2.mrbnqu1.broadband.tele.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:55:02 <Bjarni> basically I used Hiragana as what it is designed for: expressing sounds 23:55:13 <Bjarni> I don't think it means anything in Japanese 23:56:02 <Bjarni> but this can't be done with every single word as Japanese lacks letters for sounds they don't have in the language (naturally) 23:56:16 <Bjarni> like... they only have 5 vowels 23:56:23 <glx> rabu == love 23:56:32 <Bjarni> A,I,U,E,O 23:56:36 <Bjarni> in that order 23:57:05 <Bjarni> ãããããã<-- same as last line 23:57:15 <Bjarni> well, the line before that ;) 23:57:43 <Sacro> ten thousand? 23:57:49 <Sacro> that's... not M 23:57:50 <Sacro> err 23:58:09 <Bjarni> M is one thousand 23:58:35 <Sacro> hmm 23:58:42 <Sacro> i can't underline 23:58:44 <Sacro> :( 23:58:48 <Sacro> I CAN DO BOLD 23:58:52 <Sacro> and green 23:58:55 <Bjarni> huh.. why would anybody need a Romaji keyboard layout??? 23:59:04 <glx> ãããã¿ãªãã <-- means something :) 23:59:24 <Bjarni> are there points for knowing the letters_ >( 23:59:27 <Bjarni> err 23:59:33 <Bjarni> wtf 23:59:37 <ln-> ÐÑÑМО 23:59:46 <Bjarni> no questionmark in the Romaji keyboard 23:59:59 <Ammler> glx dancing guy?