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00:01:48 <murray> hammerTime(); 00:02:15 <Gonozal_VIII> stop() 00:02:19 <Gonozal_VIII> ; 00:02:29 <Gonozal_VIII> i always forget the ; 00:03:02 <murray> aye, tell me about it 00:04:42 <ln-> wtf, i just crashed my computer *twice* with a user-space program without root access. 00:05:59 <pv2b> call bugtraq 00:06:04 <glx> <reto> what does 'invalid chunk size' mean when I load a savegame? <-- savegame contains more (or less) data than it should 00:06:57 <reto> glx: and what exactly does 'as it should mean' :) what source file could have been changed to cause this? 00:06:59 <glx> usually savegame created in a different branhc 00:07:11 <ln-> can someone suggest an OSX topic to argue about? 00:07:28 <strstrep> ln-: Are you here just for flame wars? 00:07:35 <Sacro> i know i am :) 00:07:55 <ln-> strstrep: of course not. 00:08:13 <Sacro> strstrep: he's here for the free biscuits at the end 00:08:48 <strstrep> ln-: At the end of the test, you will be baked, and there will be cake. 00:11:34 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-158-124.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:12:40 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-171-87-247.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:12:41 <valhallasw> ln-: what probram? :D 00:13:03 <valhallasw> simple forkbomb or what? :P 00:16:24 <reto> can anybody tell what in this patch breaks the looading of old savegames? http://rafb.net/p/6mEzcb43.html (only 300 lines) patch was not written by me 00:16:40 <reto> oops, a second too early, haven't verified myself yet 00:16:46 <reto> (checking.... 00:16:50 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@212.24.150.226] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:17:22 *** nzvip [~svip@193.40.10.179] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:18:49 <reto> jap 00:18:53 <reto> does't work 00:19:04 <reto> trunk can load savegame, trunk + patch can't 00:19:20 <reto> I'm just wondering what exactly is causing it 00:20:50 <Rubidium_> the first chunk 00:21:07 <reto> the settings? 00:21:21 <reto> hmm 00:22:01 <ln-> valhallasw: probram? 00:22:25 <ln-> me not speak your languwich 00:22:26 <valhallasw> program >_< 00:22:57 <ln-> i just noticed simply opening /dev/ttyUSB0 is enough 00:40:24 <reto> hmm I change this 65 to 80 :( 00:40:56 <reto> the savegame value.. 00:41:04 <murray> damn desync 00:42:43 <reto> hmm or how to pick a new version nr? 00:46:18 <reto> starting from v84 the patch works on existing savegames 00:46:29 <reto> created with HEAD.. so I guess this is the next free number? 00:52:42 *** ludde [~ludde@ua-83-227-238-252.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:53:47 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 01:00:10 *** wolfy [~Wolfenste@dhcp-077-250-018-248.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 01:00:28 <Wolf01|AWAY> 'night 01:00:32 *** Wolf01|AWAY [~wolf01@host236-236-dynamic.0-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 01:05:53 <Sacro> whoah 01:06:02 <Sacro> a game with current date December 11139 01:13:27 *** prime [~bergesime@ti0117a340-0253.bb.online.no] has joined #openttd 01:14:35 <reto> Assertion failed: (sd != NULL), function PatchesSelectionWndProc, file /Users/reto/scripts/openttd/src/settings_gui.cpp, line 816. 01:14:52 <reto> I get that when I change the 'from' field from 65 to 84 01:15:03 <reto> I'm doing something completly wrong :( 01:15:17 <glx> what is exactly your change? 01:15:36 *** Tlustoch [~last_evol@r5bn73.net.upc.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:16:09 <reto> glx: I'm trying to fix a patch which adds another setting 01:16:21 <reto> when the patch last time was fixed it was using the version '65' 01:16:26 <glx> I mean the change in settings 01:17:00 <reto> http://rafb.net/p/0z0ELe64.html 01:23:00 *** prime [~bergesime@ti0117a340-0253.bb.online.no] has left #openttd [] 01:23:04 <glx> well you put 84 instead 65, but you must increase SAVEGAME_VERSION too 01:23:12 *** bumblebee [~nnscript@ti0117a340-0253.bb.online.no] has joined #openttd 01:23:56 <bumblebee> hello, anyone got time for a quick question? :) 01:24:28 <Gonozal_VIII> no 01:24:33 <Gonozal_VIII> ;-) 01:24:37 <Gonozal_VIII> just ask 01:25:33 <bumblebee> i can`t remember how i can auto-replace my car when they get old, can`t even remember if its possible, is it? :P 01:25:40 <bumblebee> *car`s 01:26:04 <Gonozal_VIII> it is, in the vehicle list, dropdown menu bottom middle 01:26:26 <ln-> bumblebee: you are using the wrong apostrophe (`). the correct one is '. 01:26:53 <ln-> and definitely an apostrophe doesn't belong to the plural of car. 01:27:16 <bumblebee> but that`s only when i get a newer model to replace it with isnt it? 01:27:57 <Gonozal_VIII> you can also replace them with older models if you want to... 01:27:59 <ln-> bumblebee: please use the proper apostrophe. it's the one next to the return (enter) key. 01:28:03 <reto> glx: ah 01:28:19 *** caladan [~caladan@161-bem-18.acn.waw.pl] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 01:29:28 <glx> bumblebee: what you want seems to be autorenew, you enable it in patches settings 01:30:00 <bumblebee> hmm give me a sec 01:31:22 *** Eddi|zuHause3 [~johekr@p54B77D38.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 01:32:06 <reto> works, thanks glx 01:32:29 <bumblebee> were it says "autoreplace when vehice(<-- grammar error?) x months before max age? 01:32:41 <glx> yes 01:33:22 <bumblebee> excellent :) ty very much 01:35:37 <bumblebee> i get really tired when i have to replace all of them manually :) 01:36:26 <bumblebee> gn 01:36:30 *** bumblebee [~nnscript@ti0117a340-0253.bb.online.no] has left #openttd [] 01:37:53 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B7528F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:40:41 *** MDGrein [~MDGrein@c-e43472d5.02-56-736b7610.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Quit: sleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeping time] 01:46:15 *** bumblebee [~nnscript@ti0117a340-0253.bb.online.no] has joined #openttd 01:46:36 *** bumblebee [~nnscript@ti0117a340-0253.bb.online.no] has quit [] 02:05:18 <strstrep> Hehehe that's funny 02:05:29 <Gonozal_VIII> hahahahaha 02:17:21 <strstrep> GUI bugs can produce interesting-looking results. 02:40:06 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: belugas * r11725 /trunk/src/newgrf_industries.cpp: -Codechange: less a magical number 02:46:34 <strstrep> I have to give it to you guys, figuring out a general idea of what is going on in the code wasn't so bad. 02:47:35 <G> opps, I left breakdowns enabled it seems in a dedicated server, how can I disable them? 02:54:30 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x50a46c2b.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:01:23 <Eddi|zuHause3> G: load game in local client, change setting, load in server 03:07:31 <G> ouch 03:29:06 *** Greyscale [~Greyscale@host86-141-96-77.range86-141.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 03:29:20 *** Greyscale [~Greyscale@host86-141-96-77.range86-141.btcentralplus.com] has quit [] 03:37:37 *** egladil [~egladil@81-236-0-99-no61.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:39:04 *** egladil [~egladil@81-236-0-99-no61.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 03:46:12 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B82899.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: icebears... take care of them!] 03:46:42 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B82899.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 03:46:43 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 04:14:27 *** Rockair [RoKK@dsl54008514.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 04:21:48 *** RoKK [RoKK@dsl5400842F.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:22:30 *** Rockair [RoKK@dsl54008514.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:30:46 *** Zahl_ [~Zahl@p549F2058.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 04:37:53 *** Zahl [~Zahl@p549F13D0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:37:53 *** Zahl_ is now known as Zahl 04:38:36 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: belugas * r11726 /trunk/ (8 files in 3 dirs): -Feature[newGRF]: Extend the Action 5, feature 0D usage. Patch by BigBB 04:38:37 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: belugas * r11727 /extra/ottd_grf/split/ (openttd.nfo shore.nfo shore.pcx): -Change: Add the new graphics and nfo file for missing shore 04:40:22 *** Zahl [~Zahl@p549F2058.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: Windows shutdown) ((~_~]"] 04:48:30 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@N734P015.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Quit: Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com] 04:50:29 *** glx [~glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: bye] 04:54:16 *** dlunch [~dlunch@220.123.133.249] has joined #openttd 04:54:30 *** dlunch [~dlunch@220.123.133.249] has quit [] 05:14:59 *** Ammller [~Ammler@adsl-84-227-7-233.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 05:19:32 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-89-217-0-81.adslplus.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:20:58 *** Nitehawk [~nitehawk@c-98-200-106-108.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:21:20 *** Nitehawk [~nitehawk@c-98-200-106-108.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 05:51:00 *** peter__ [~petern@217.151.109.242] has joined #openttd 07:14:38 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r11728 /trunk/src/newgrf.cpp: -Fix [FS#1577]: if there are no houses that can be build in a specific year yet, force the houses with the earliest introduction year to be available. 07:51:48 *** Frostregen_ [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-181-158.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 07:57:27 *** Frostregen [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-162-112.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:57:28 *** Frostregen_ is now known as Frostregen 08:14:57 *** Nitehawk [~nitehawk@c-98-200-106-108.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:29:35 *** XeryusTC [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:30:26 *** Nitehawk [~nitehawk@c-98-200-106-108.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 08:36:10 *** lord_gets [~chatzilla@pc25.host20.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 08:36:12 *** lord_gets is now known as lord 08:36:26 <peter__> oh lord 08:36:28 *** lord is now known as [LA]lord 08:36:45 <[LA]lord> ? 08:39:09 <peter__> won't you buy me 08:39:15 <peter__> a mercedes benz 08:39:55 <peter__> my friends all drive porsches 08:40:04 <peter__> i must make amends 08:42:15 * [LA]lord is not lord :( 08:42:32 * [LA]lord is LordAzamath w/o special powers :D 08:42:46 *** [LA]lord is now known as LordAzamath 08:42:47 <peter__> well that's bloody useless! 08:43:01 <LordAzamath> true 09:10:08 *** peterbrett [~peter@cpc2-oxfd6-0-0-cust544.oxfd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 09:46:04 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F5775C.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 09:48:52 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has joined #openttd 10:00:08 *** Purno [~Purno@5357D37C.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 10:06:08 *** Tlustoch [~last_evol@r5bn73.net.upc.cz] has joined #openttd 10:26:42 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-171-87-247.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has joined #openttd 10:29:49 *** Aerandir [magic.powe@90-230-201-111-no37.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Quit: - nbs-irc 2.36 - www.nbs-irc.net -] 10:29:56 *** Aerandir [magic.powe@90-230-201-111-no37.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 10:30:39 *** Aerandir [magic.powe@90-230-201-111-no37.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [] 10:30:53 *** Aerandir [magic.powe@90-230-201-111-no37.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 10:32:26 <G> how would I go about disabling breakdowns in all future dedicated server games 10:33:46 <hylje> patch option 10:34:37 <G> oh, I found my fault! 10:34:46 <G> I changed diff_custom, but not diff_level 10:37:34 *** pavel1269 [~pavel.g@48.140.broadband2.iol.cz] has joined #openttd 10:37:38 <pavel1269> hi 10:40:20 <Vikthor> hi 10:52:22 *** LordAzamath [~chatzilla@pc25.host20.starman.ee] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:56:38 *** Deathmaker [~Miranda@dslb-082-083-227-219.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 10:57:05 *** LordAzamath [~chatzilla@pc25.host20.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 10:59:37 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F5775C.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 10:59:56 *** TinoM [~Tino@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 11:03:20 <ln-> snow! 11:05:08 *** LordAzamath [~chatzilla@pc25.host20.starman.ee] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:06:57 *** LordAzamath [~chatzilla@pc25.host20.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 11:07:49 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 11:14:07 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: peter1138 * r11729 /trunk/src/ (road_gui.cpp station_cmd.cpp): -Codechange: Don't rely on the first railtype's sprite offset being zero when drawing road stations. 11:15:32 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1DD05.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:21:53 *** ludde [~ludde@ua-83-227-238-252.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 11:23:22 <ludde> merry new year and a happy christmas! 11:26:16 <pavel1269> ln-: where?! 11:27:21 <ln-> pavel1269: right there, on the left! 11:28:06 <pavel1269> i don't see :( 11:28:14 <pavel1269> ln-: where are you from? 11:29:25 <ln-> .fi 11:31:11 <pavel1269> send some snow to us ... sounth-east :) 11:32:59 <ln-> east? ... take a look at the map. 11:33:47 <pavel1269> okay ... mmt 11:34:01 <pavel1269> .fi == finland right? 11:35:41 <ln-> right 11:35:45 *** TinoM [~Tino@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:36:33 <pavel1269> ln-: okay then ... ~400km west and ~1600 11:36:39 <pavel1269> *1600km 11:36:42 <pavel1269> sounth 11:37:47 <peter__> or even south 11:42:48 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB4805.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 12:14:02 <Digitalfox> Belugas shouldn't your commit r11726 support new water shores corners? I build just now with BuildOTTD r11729 and it doesn't support it, but since i think BuildOTTD doesn't compiule grf files maybe some are missing.. :\ 12:20:22 <peter__> why would it need to compile grf files? 12:22:00 <pavel1269> ^^ 12:22:56 <Digitalfox> Why? well because openttd by default uses already some grf files, like the "slopes feature" the new airport features, etc.. And since in the commit of belugas there is a shore.nfo something must have changed 12:23:44 <Digitalfox> So since BuildOTTD didn't compile shore.nfo maybe i'm missing some sprites or something 12:24:22 <Digitalfox> Anymore questions peter___ and pavel1269 ? 12:24:45 <pavel1269> BuildOTTD will NEVER compile .nfo 12:24:54 <Digitalfox> well i know that 12:25:15 <Digitalfox> that's why i'm asking if it's the cause why i don't have the new shores support 12:25:19 <pavel1269> you need it by grfcodec and when you cimpile it, just add .grf to data dir 12:26:10 <Digitalfox> yes, but niglty version brings any new grf, so i'll just wait for it.. But my question was if is a grf missing the cause for not seeing properly new shores 12:26:22 <pavel1269> offcourse 12:26:30 <peter__> shore.nfo? where is that? 12:26:47 <pavel1269> peter__: decoded shore.grf? ^^ 12:26:54 <pavel1269> i never saw that grapsic 12:26:58 <roboboy> CIA-1> OpenTTD: belugas * r11726 /trunk/ (8 files in 3 dirs): -Feature[newGRF]: Extend the Action 5, feature 0D usage. Patch by BigBB 12:26:58 <roboboy> <CIA-1> OpenTTD: belugas * r11727 /extra/ottd_grf/split/ (openttd.nfo shore.nfo shore.pcx): -Change: Add the new graphics and nfo file for missing shore 12:27:29 <peter__> right, not in the main source 12:27:34 <Digitalfox> the place /extra/ottd_grf/split/shore.nfo 12:27:49 <pavel1269> so now, we have all shores? 12:27:52 <peter__> BuildOTTD shouldn't ever download that 12:28:40 <Digitalfox> oh boy... I know that, my question was just if it's the cause of not being using new shores, because new water should already support the new shores and give the sprites needed 12:28:57 <peter__> no, because shore.nfo is built into openttdw.grf 12:28:58 <Digitalfox> but never mind 12:29:34 <Digitalfox> i'll wait for nighlty and see what new grf it brings 12:29:59 <peter__> BuildOTTD will download the new grf, of course 12:30:41 *** Deathmaker [~Miranda@dslb-082-083-227-219.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:39:45 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:40:22 *** peterbrett [~peter@cpc2-oxfd6-0-0-cust544.oxfd.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:47:09 *** DaleStan_ [~Dale@pool-71-98-105-192.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 12:50:50 *** Frostregen_ [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-181-158.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 12:53:04 *** Frostregen [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-181-158.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 12:53:30 *** Frostregen_ is now known as Frostregen 12:54:22 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-105-192.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:54:22 *** DaleStan_ is now known as DaleStan 12:55:23 *** TinoM [~Tino@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 13:00:34 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@212.24.150.226] has joined #openttd 13:21:20 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 13:21:21 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 13:22:28 *** eQualizer [~lauri@dyn15-194.dsl.spy.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 13:44:53 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host150-157-dynamic.60-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 13:45:33 <Wolf01> hello 13:46:03 <Belugas> Happy New Year to you too ludde :) 13:46:08 <Belugas> and everyone else, of course! 13:46:34 <Wolf01> to you too Belugas :) 13:47:53 *** robotboy [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 13:48:03 <robotboy> happy new year 13:48:28 <Wolf01> to you too :) 13:50:20 <Belugas> and you and you and you and you and... :D 13:50:23 <Belugas> youhou!! 13:51:49 *** Greyscale [~Greyscale@host86-141-96-77.range86-141.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 13:51:56 *** XeryusTC [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has joined #openttd 13:54:03 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 13:54:26 *** Netsplit cation.oftc.net <-> unununium.oftc.net quits: Dark_Link^, Aerandir, Progman, Sacro, Priski, LordAzamath, TinoM, Brianetta, Ammller, welterde, (+3 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 13:54:34 *** robotboy is now known as roboboy 13:55:08 *** Netsplit over, joins: Sacro 13:55:49 *** Netsplit over, joins: Vikthor, TinoM, Progman, Brianetta, LordAzamath, Aerandir, Ammller, Dark_Link^, welterde, blathijs (+2 more) 13:58:12 <pv2b> i'm making a patch that requires a few changes to config.lib -- anyone familiar with the configure system? i have almost figured it out, just have a few small questions. 14:01:01 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@M3118P023.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 14:01:14 <pavel1269> cinfig.lib? O_o what patch is that?? 14:01:58 <pv2b> pavel1269: config.lib -- it's the patch that implements the changes to where user data is stored i've been talking about. 14:01:59 <Gonozal_VIII> virus!!! burn it!!! poke it with a stick and see if it still moves and burn it again!!! 14:02:20 <pv2b> basically i need to know if doing OS checks in set_default() is possible, and if so, if it's a good idea 14:02:57 *** LordAzamath [~chatzilla@pc25.host20.starman.ee] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.79 [Firefox 2.0.0.11/2007112718]] 14:05:39 *** Zahl [~Zahl@p549F2058.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 14:07:38 <peter__> either my calendar is wrong, or people are saying "happy new year" too early 14:08:07 <pavel1269> too early ;) 14:08:07 <Gonozal_VIII> 9h left... 14:08:25 <pavel1269> 9h? 15 + 9 = 24 .. okay you are right ?D 14:08:32 <Gonozal_VIII> ^^ 14:08:36 <Vikthor> Gonozal_VIII: Depends on where you are 14:08:44 <peter__> i make it 10 14:08:45 <Gonozal_VIII> i know that ;-) 14:08:54 <peter__> because UTC is the one true time system 14:11:01 <Vikthor> For example in Sydney it's 2008 now 14:11:17 <Wolf01> uh, 9 standard galactic weeks to the end of the year 14:11:24 <Gonozal_VIII> ^^ 14:11:47 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:12:42 <pavel1269> Vikthor: sure? or 24.12 07 early morning? :o) 14:12:55 <Gonozal_VIII> hmm it's already week 1 according to ptbsync calendar 14:13:25 <Wolf01> mine says it too 14:13:31 <Vikthor> pavel1269: eh? 14:13:44 <pavel1269> *31.12 14:13:48 <pavel1269> :)) 14:15:46 <Vikthor> pavel1269: Make sure you know which way Earth spins, it's 1.1.2008 in Sydney 14:16:42 <roboboy> yeah 14:17:15 *** Draakon [~chatzilla@88-196-108-153-dsl.trt.estpak.ee] has joined #openttd 14:17:25 <Draakon> hiello 14:19:10 <Gonozal_VIII> the earth spins the other way in sydney because they all walk upside down on their hands.... you have to be careful at the equator where the earth spins in different directions, you have to jump fast over it and land on your hands! 14:20:07 <Gonozal_VIII> perfectly logical, don't question my wisdom! 14:21:02 <Draakon> i do 14:22:04 <Gonozal_VIII> you're notquestioning my wisdom? good :-) 14:22:56 <Wolf01> i always wondered why objects and people in the southern emisphere don't fall in the void of the space 14:23:27 <Draakon> yes i do 14:23:34 <Gonozal_VIII> that's part of the string theory... 14:23:37 <Gonozal_VIII> lots of strings 14:23:40 <Gonozal_VIII> :-) 14:23:51 <Gonozal_VIII> and magnets too 14:23:58 <pavel1269> :) 14:24:32 <Wolf01> so the earth is like a big fridge with magnets sticked on all the surface? 14:24:33 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@xdsl-84-44-128-59.netcologne.de] has joined #openttd 14:24:49 <Gonozal_VIII> only the lower part :-) 14:25:15 <Draakon> its gravity 14:25:19 <Gonozal_VIII> why did you think there was a magnetic field on the northern part? all their magnets! 14:25:47 <Draakon> its gravity dude! not magnets 14:25:53 <Wolf01> is magnet 14:26:22 <Gonozal_VIII> gravity pulls down, they would fall off on the lower side without the magnets 14:26:24 <Draakon> gravit 14:26:24 <Vikthor> You all shoulb ashamed of yourself - So drunk so early in the afternoon :p 14:26:26 <Wolf01> Gonozal_VIII explained it 14:26:31 <Vikthor> * should be 14:26:53 <Draakon> and why we talk about this anyway? we talk about OpenTTD here! 14:27:17 <Wolf01> also in ottd the people on the lower side of the map fall in the black 14:27:26 <Wolf01> and the world is a square 14:27:46 <Wolf01> and flat 14:27:46 *** |Bastiaan| [~Bastiaan@e28236.upc-e.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 14:29:15 *** peterbrett [~peter@cpc2-oxfd6-0-0-cust544.oxfd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 14:29:18 <Draakon> anybody knows a scenario that is based from real word? 14:29:35 <Gonozal_VIII> they all are 14:30:02 <Vikthor> Draakon: Whole Earth or just particular part? 14:30:14 <Wolf01> ottd uses google earth to generate the maps 14:30:16 <Draakon> whole earth 14:30:22 <Draakon> ni' 14:30:24 <Draakon> no* 14:30:24 <Gonozal_VIII> they took lots of photos in real toyland to create realistic toyland scenarios 14:30:28 <Draakon> it doesnt 14:31:27 <Gonozal_VIII> which is very risky because you can get shot for even being too close to a battery farm 14:32:34 <Gonozal_VIII> battery farms are illegal, that's why you don't see any of them over here 14:32:36 <pavel1269> :) 14:32:54 *** G_ [~njones@202-154-147-109.ubs-dynamic.connections.net.nz] has joined #openttd 14:34:40 *** G [~njones@202-154-147-109.ubs-dynamic.connections.net.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:36:03 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 14:36:29 *** wiese [~w_w@cm142-140.liwest.at] has left #openttd [] 14:36:56 <peter__> Gonozal_VIII, you don't see many free range farms either 14:40:52 <Draakon> hmm i try loading a scenario but i get these errors: dbg: [oldloader] Read past end of file, loading failed 14:40:54 <Draakon> why? 14:44:15 <Wolf01> damaged scenario? 14:45:46 <Draakon> i dont think so 14:46:13 <Draakon> i was able to play that scenario on, umm, rev8000? or 9000 14:46:32 <Wolf01> maybe some features changed 14:47:07 <Draakon> no, it hasent changed in a while 14:47:13 <peter__> probably the oldloader has been broken 14:47:17 <peter__> it doesn't get tested very often 14:47:23 <Gonozal_VIII> try to start it with a revision that works, save it and then load with a new revision 14:47:41 <Draakon> btw its a Patch scenario too :P 14:47:49 <Gonozal_VIII> ... 14:48:16 <Sacro> morning 14:48:18 <glx> <Draakon> btw its a Patch scenario too :P <-- that's not guaranteed to work 14:48:39 <Draakon> that same scenario worked before on older revisions 14:48:45 <Gonozal_VIII> well same solution... if it did load with an older revision do that, save it as an openttd savegame and that should load 14:49:29 <Draakon> will try with r8007 14:50:13 <Draakon> it works! 14:54:08 <Wolf01> uh, Belugas, about the shores feature, i need to load another grf besides new water? 14:58:45 <Ammller> Wolf01: you need a patch 14:58:52 <Ammller> I guess its not in the trunk 14:58:55 <Wolf01> it is in trunk now ;) 14:59:00 <Ammller> wow, nice 14:59:11 <Wolf01> i just compiled it 14:59:19 <Ammller> then it should work with new water 14:59:21 <Wolf01> but seem that it doesn't work :/ 14:59:22 <pavel1269> somewhere must be new grf 14:59:43 <Wolf01> i dlded also the 0.6b version of new water 15:00:37 <Ammller> Wolf01: which commit? 15:00:38 *** Draakon is now known as Draakon_ 15:00:47 <Wolf01> 11729 15:01:02 <Wolf01> <- head 15:01:13 <Wolf01> the feature should be 11725 15:12:04 <peter__> Wolf01, as far as i can tell that commit only adds support for another method of loading the slopes 15:12:04 <peter__> but doesn't actually add the feature 15:12:04 <peter__> i guess it's in preparation or something 15:12:05 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@M3118P023.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:12:11 *** SpComb [terom@zapotek.paivola.fi] has joined #openttd 15:12:32 <Ammller> and you mean 11726? 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18:16:11 <pavel1269> slovakia? :P 18:18:34 <Noldo> http://svk.bestpractical.com/view/HomePage 18:22:04 *** Greyscaleoftc [bnc@81.171.136.146] has joined #openttd 18:22:10 *** Greyscale [~Greyscale@host86-141-96-77.range86-141.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:22:22 *** Greyscaleoftc is now known as Greyscale 18:24:09 <joosa> I'm just starting a game with my friends, now deciding what new industries to take in 18:24:21 <joosa> any suggestions? (i've never played ttdpatch) 18:24:37 <joosa> I hear some talk about ECS 18:24:45 <Greyscale> Ooh, can I play? 18:24:49 <Greyscale> What version? 18:24:57 *** Nitehawk [~nitehawk@c-98-200-106-108.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:25:06 <joosa> 0.6.0b2, but it's not starting anytime soon I guess 18:25:18 <Greyscale> wow, 0.6.0 came out? 18:25:23 <pavel1269> beta2 .. 18:25:27 <joosa> a beta yes 18:25:35 <Greyscale> I've not played in a while, then noticed #openttd was still in my bouncer :P 18:25:36 <pavel1269> since when is 0.6.0b2 ttdp? :) 18:25:47 <joosa> we already played with pikka's industries 18:26:17 <joosa> pavel1269: I meant that new industries was a ttdpatch feature until now :) 18:26:19 <Greyscale> Where can I find a build for linux for that version? 18:26:27 <Greyscale> Or do I need to fire up my old winpeecee? 18:26:33 <pavel1269> joosa: i like default ones :) 18:26:49 <joosa> I've been playing with the defaults a bit too much :) 18:26:59 <pavel1269> then try ECS? 18:27:03 <joosa> http://grfcrawler.tt-forums.net/index.php?do=search&q=industries 18:27:08 <joosa> yeah, I was looking into it 18:27:22 <pavel1269> i have never played with other industries :) 18:27:48 <joosa> those come with appriopÃ¥rite vehicles? 18:27:50 <Greyscale> damn, gotta build from source 18:28:04 <joosa> there's a package for debian/ubuntu at least 18:28:56 <joosa> I'll download ECS and see what it's like 18:33:46 <joosa> ahh too much work for now :P 18:34:06 *** Nitehawk [~nitehawk@c-98-200-106-108.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 18:45:55 <Wolf01> and always, like every year, my friends trash me and i have nothing to do :( 18:46:06 <Wolf01> stupid friends :( 18:46:58 *** Nitehawk [~nitehawk@c-98-200-106-108.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:48:51 <joosa> new year? the random point in spacetime? 18:49:18 <joosa> I wish there would be times when no one notes it 18:49:48 *** helb [~helb@62.240.176.23] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 18:50:16 *** helb [~helb@62.240.176.23] has joined #openttd 18:51:17 <Wolf01> i prepared a party in my house... 40 minutes ago they come here to say they found another place to stay 18:51:30 <peter__> :o 18:51:44 <Wolf01> 40 minutes ago!!!! 18:52:13 <Wolf01> they have told me it yesterday: no problem, but no 40 minutes ago 18:52:20 <joosa> how nice of them 18:52:37 <joosa> I'm alone as usual 18:53:09 <joosa> listening to the endless crackle and pop 18:53:19 <joosa> and playing ottd 18:55:09 <Wolf01> i shouldn't think about it, or i'll get a gastric ulcer 'cause of angry 18:55:49 <joosa> having friends is like that. 18:55:57 <joosa> no friends == better 18:56:00 <Greyscale> joosa, I'm installing it on my winpeecee 18:56:06 <joosa> oh 18:56:10 <Greyscale> Any specific /data stuff I need? 18:56:20 <joosa> don't know yet 18:56:24 <joosa> ig you mean the grfs 18:56:27 <Greyscale> yeah 18:56:56 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: miham * r11730 /trunk/src/lang/ (16 files): (log message trimmed) 18:56:56 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Update: WebTranslator2 update to 2007-12-31 19:55:44 18:56:56 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: catalan - 1 fixed by arnaullv (1) 18:56:56 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: dutch - 1 fixed by webfreakz (1) 18:56:56 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: estonian - 1 fixed by kristjans (1) 18:56:57 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: french - 1 fixed by glx (1) 18:56:57 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: german - 27 fixed by moewe2 (27) 18:56:59 *** Nitehawk [~nitehawk@c-98-200-106-108.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 18:57:02 <peter__> /dev/sda2 9582316 9067004 28544 100% / 18:57:04 <peter__> "oops" 18:57:13 <Greyscale> lulz :P 18:57:21 <joosa> that's tightly packd 18:57:42 *** |Bastiaan| [~Bastiaan@e28236.upc-e.chello.nl] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 3.2.6 Anomalies http://www.kvirc.net/] 18:57:46 <joosa> luckily there's always space for root 18:58:05 <peter__> *nod* 18:58:07 <Greyscale> joosa, is your server up? 18:58:24 <joosa> it is, with some random grf's from the ottdcoop pack 18:58:31 <Greyscale> damn 18:58:32 <joosa> it's paused I guess 18:58:36 <Greyscale> Whats it calle? 18:58:46 <joosa> I was going to start a new, the collection was a bit badly chosen :) 18:58:55 <Greyscale> ok 18:59:03 <Greyscale> I'll play singleplayer until you're ready 18:59:13 <joosa> but I have no sight of the friends I was going to play with 18:59:15 <pavel1269> 19:55 <joosa> no (friends == better) == false :) 18:59:21 <joosa> :P 18:59:38 <joosa> I always forget to include smilies 18:59:45 <pavel1269> :) 18:59:57 <pavel1269> i always forget to include some letters :D 19:00:09 <pavel1269> or they are included twice 19:00:09 <pavel1269> :) 19:00:15 <joosa> I always remenmber to incluse some extra letters 19:00:22 <pavel1269> i see ^^ 19:01:32 <pavel1269> i must get that damn RR to work :) 19:01:50 <pavel1269> 2hours ago, it worked lie on disco! :) 19:02:03 <pavel1269> green, red, green , boom, hoops :D 19:02:07 <joosa> I should make a nother user to run another dedicated server on 19:02:17 <joosa> extra spaces too. 19:02:30 <pavel1269> sometimes i use less spaces :P 19:04:37 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@212.24.150.226] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:09:13 <joosa> oh well, now they want to play bzflag 19:09:46 <joosa> seems my openttd dreams were trashed 19:10:51 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@M3118P023.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 19:11:30 <pavel1269> i need aritmetic opearion which give me this table: 0 0 = 0, 0 1 = 1, 1 0 = 0, 1 1 = 0 19:11:35 <pavel1269> :/ 19:11:45 <hylje> :o 19:12:18 <Noldo> there's 2 times 0 = 0 19:12:25 <pavel1269> ^^ 19:12:26 <Greyscale> joosa, I'll still play :P 19:12:34 <pavel1269> Noldo: you didn't get it :o) 19:12:39 <Gonozal_VIII> xor 19:12:46 <pavel1269> 1 0 = 0 19:12:47 <pavel1269> ! 19:13:03 <Gonozal_VIII> hmmm? 19:13:25 <laz0r> with xor, 1 0 would be 1 19:13:28 <Gonozal_VIII> makes no sense? 19:13:29 <Gonozal_VIII> ^^ 19:13:46 <Wolf01> wait, karnaugh maps 19:14:01 <Gonozal_VIII> hmm 19:14:03 <pavel1269> hehe 19:14:12 <Gonozal_VIII> == 1 19:14:20 <Gonozal_VIII> :-) 19:14:21 <pavel1269> false 19:14:21 <pavel1269> :) 19:14:32 <Gonozal_VIII> and false is 0 19:15:42 <joosa> Greyscale: I'm testing ECS a bit 19:16:25 <Gonozal_VIII> with == 1 you should get that :-) 19:16:31 <joosa> I should test on a smaller map maybe :P 1442/1600 19:16:50 <Gonozal_VIII> there is no 1442/1600 map 19:16:55 <pavel1269> :D 19:16:58 <Greyscale> ECS? 19:17:07 <joosa> the industry generation counter that was 19:17:13 <pavel1269> he meant ... 19:17:19 <pavel1269> @calc 1442/1600 19:17:19 <DorpsGek> pavel1269: 0.90125 19:17:23 <pavel1269> :D 19:17:29 <joosa> 90% dome 19:17:39 <joosa> ok, it's not moving 19:17:44 <Progman> pavel1269: what about !A and B? 19:17:59 <pavel1269> b? ??? 19:18:07 <joosa> the map was 2048x1024 iirc 19:18:12 <pavel1269> i ma not sure what !A will do :) 19:18:22 <Gonozal_VIII> that's only one 2bit thingy not two booleans^^ 19:18:27 <Gonozal_VIII> or is it? 19:18:42 <pavel1269> ahh 19:18:53 * pavel1269 debugging "!" 19:19:02 <Gonozal_VIII> ! is not 19:19:17 <peter__> b ^ (a & b) 19:20:11 <pavel1269> hmm 19:20:15 <pavel1269> w8 19:20:53 <joosa> the question is, sdo I need some vehicles grf with ECS industries? 19:21:10 <Gonozal_VIII> yes 19:21:15 <peter__> yes you do 19:21:20 <joosa> thought so 19:21:29 <joosa> ah 19:21:30 <peter__> the default vehicles do not support different cargos 19:21:38 <Gonozal_VIII> serbian trains have the best ecs support that i know of 19:21:41 <pavel1269> peter__: it's a=>b :) 19:21:42 <joosa> the one an the bottom here: http://george.zernebok.net/newgrf/downloads.html 19:21:44 <pavel1269> false 19:21:44 <joosa> or? 19:22:09 <peter__> huh? 19:22:59 <pavel1269> b ^ (a & b) == 0 0 = 1, 0 1 = 1, 1 0 = 0, 1 1 = 1 which is "=>" 19:23:11 <peter__> no 19:23:21 <peter__> with b ^ (a & b), 1 1 = 0 19:23:52 <pavel1269> hmm 19:23:55 <pavel1269> true 19:24:41 <pavel1269> it's still wrong :) 19:24:51 <peter__> oh, and 0 0 = 0 19:24:57 <peter__> so it fits the list you asked for 19:25:17 <Gonozal_VIII> 00=0 01=0 10=0 11=1 19:25:23 <Gonozal_VIII> that's a&b 19:25:34 <pavel1269> really? b ^ (a & b) = 0^(0&0) = 0^1 = 1 19:25:44 <peter__> 0&0 != 1 19:25:47 <laz0r> 0^1 == 0 19:25:49 <pavel1269> omg :D 19:25:52 <Gonozal_VIII> 0&0 = 0 19:25:56 <pavel1269> sry :o) 19:26:07 <Progman> 00=0 01=1 10=0 11=0 is still !a & b o_O 19:26:18 <laz0r> but x^0 == 1 for every x 19:26:21 <Gonozal_VIII> 0^1=1 19:26:22 <pavel1269> but what ! will do to my BYTE 19:26:23 <laz0r> even x == 0 19:26:30 <laz0r> ok, no 19:26:32 <laz0r> forget that 19:26:36 <Progman> you mean bitwise? use ~ 19:26:41 <Progman> ~a&b 19:26:56 <pavel1269> b ^ (a & b) - this will work for sure 19:27:19 <laz0r> x^0 == 1 for every x, even x == 0, thsats what i wanted to say 19:27:27 <laz0r> am i right? 19:27:42 <pavel1269> 0^0 = 0 19:27:54 <laz0r> no, 0^0 == 1 19:27:55 <Gonozal_VIII> ^ means both the same = 0, not the same = 1 19:28:05 <pavel1269> ^ == XOR 19:28:07 <Progman> laz0r: ^ as in bitwise-xor, not as in "power" 19:28:15 <laz0r> ah, ok 19:28:24 <pavel1269> ,) 19:28:26 <laz0r> i thought ^ meant power 19:28:44 <peter__> ~a & b is probably more efficient 19:30:26 <Gonozal_VIII> yes i think so too 19:31:32 <Gonozal_VIII> well... can never be really efficient to work with single bits on a 32 or 64bit machine 19:31:37 <Gonozal_VIII> ^^ 19:33:11 <peter__> ... 19:33:23 <pavel1269> lol ^^ i dont know now, what b means now :)) 19:33:35 <Gonozal_VIII> 2nd bit ;-) 19:33:56 <pavel1269> in program ^^ 19:34:02 <Gonozal_VIII> hehe 19:34:17 <Gonozal_VIII> that's bad ;-) 19:34:35 <Gonozal_VIII> lots of queen on 3sat 19:34:37 *** UnderBuilder [~chatzilla@168.226.106.131] has joined #openttd 19:36:08 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B82899.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:37:54 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B80142.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 19:37:57 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 19:42:56 <UnderBuilder> I think something openttd needs is less servers, so the players doesn't sparce too much 19:43:28 <peter__> better tell that to the server operators 19:45:24 <Gonozal_VIII> make them register to the masterserver and pay a monthly fee of 100 for being listed :D 19:47:41 <Gonozal_VIII> and if there are still too much after that, put them against a wall and shoot them, that will keep the serverlist nice and small 19:47:42 *** TX [~pIRCuser6@hard-soft--121.colo2.kv.wnet.ua] has joined #openttd 19:47:59 <pavel1269> small or void? 19:49:02 <Gonozal_VIII> or kidnap people and force them to play until every server is crowded 19:49:51 *** Wolf01 is now known as Wolf01|AWAY 19:49:58 <Wolf01|AWAY> i'm still here 19:50:04 <pavel1269> :D 19:50:10 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@79-68-157-158.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:50:23 <pavel1269> who Wolf01 or AWAY ? :P 19:50:28 <Gonozal_VIII> no, you're away 19:50:29 <pavel1269> or both? 19:50:36 <Wolf01|AWAY> both 19:50:37 <Gonozal_VIII> he's away 19:50:46 <Gonozal_VIII> wolf01 is gone 19:50:54 <Wolf01|AWAY> but away is here 19:50:57 <pavel1269> :D 19:51:01 <Gonozal_VIII> been kidnapped to play openttd 19:51:37 <Gonozal_VIII> on a toyland server! 19:51:42 <pavel1269> haha :D 19:52:23 <Noldo> evil! 19:53:42 *** Ammller [~Ammler@adsl-84-227-7-233.adslplus.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:54:04 <Wolf01|AWAY> i think i'll wait here some time, then i'll bring my sister to the disco and i'll go visit my grandmother 19:54:57 <Gonozal_VIII> you can't go outside! 19:55:02 <Gonozal_VIII> there's a war going on! 19:55:10 <Gonozal_VIII> missiles and bombs all over the place 19:55:26 * pavel1269 goes to the window 19:56:03 <Gonozal_VIII> just wait 3h pavel and you'll see it 19:56:11 * pavel1269 doesn't saw any bomb or missile 19:56:24 <Noldo> only 2h here 19:56:26 <pavel1269> one prob 19:56:41 * pavel1269 owns too some bombs and missiles 19:56:46 <pavel1269> ^^ 19:56:49 <Gonozal_VIII> warmonger! 19:56:54 * pavel1269 hides 19:56:55 <pavel1269> no! 19:57:09 <Noldo> I don't like fireworks 19:57:25 * pavel1269 is aiming some missiles at Gonozal_VIII 19:57:38 <Noldo> well in the hands of professionals they can be quite nice 19:58:04 * Gonozal_VIII sticks some firecrackers on his missiles and aims at pavel1269 19:58:22 <pavel1269> whats firecracker? 19:58:46 <Gonozal_VIII> the things that go boom 19:59:10 <Gonozal_VIII> at least i think so, don't ask me questions in strange languages 19:59:33 <pavel1269> :) 19:59:58 <pavel1269> wow, i changed a lot of things and signals still work ^^ 20:00:23 <pavel1269> sometimes they turn on mode_disco .. alltime_green and so on 20:00:43 <Gonozal_VIII> alltime green is nice, faster trains :D 20:00:48 <pavel1269> :D 20:00:51 <pavel1269> since junction 20:00:51 <pavel1269> :D 20:02:33 <Gonozal_VIII> while you're at it, add some signals in tunnels, on bridges and in stations, will you?^^ 20:02:42 <pavel1269> no 20:02:43 <pavel1269> yw 20:02:43 <pavel1269> :) 20:03:20 <pavel1269> wow, want place signal? yes? crash on you! :D 20:03:25 <pavel1269> :'( 20:04:27 <Gonozal_VIII> also signals on signals and signals on signals on signals! 20:05:38 <Gonozal_VIII> imagine birds climbing around on the signals... they need signals too 20:05:55 <Gonozal_VIII> and if some ants run around on the birdsignals they also need signals! 20:06:24 <Gonozal_VIII> otherwise they will crash and cause a giant fireball 20:07:35 <pavel1269> birds + signals != fireball 20:07:52 <Gonozal_VIII> see, that's what i said 20:08:42 <Gonozal_VIII> but the ant signals are even more important 20:08:48 <Gonozal_VIII> it could be fireants! 20:13:07 <Gonozal_VIII> that would be like maglev train filled with liquid oxygen bottles crashing at max speed into another train same load, same speed opposite direction 20:15:56 <pavel1269> reason of crash .. NULL->max_speed :) 20:20:27 <Gonozal_VIII> there are people in front of our house playing music... 20:21:08 *** James [~vatrtj@adsl-dyn39.78-98-117.t-com.sk] has joined #openttd 20:21:14 <James> hi all 20:21:26 <Gonozal_VIII> hi one 20:21:42 <pavel1269> hi 20:21:44 *** James is now known as Guest1810 20:21:49 <Guest1810> btw. happy new year 20:22:02 <Gonozal_VIII> still 2007 here 20:22:38 <pavel1269> :) 20:23:43 *** Guest1810 is now known as James152 20:23:55 <James152> here too 20:24:02 <Gonozal_VIII> oh pavel.. he's from czechoslovakia too^^ 20:24:03 <James152> but after 3,5 hours 20:24:21 <James152> iÂŽm not from czechoslovakia :D 20:24:45 <pavel1269> czechoslovakia does not exist :) 20:25:05 <pavel1269> James152: from slovakia? :P 20:25:32 <SpComb> or slovenia? 20:26:24 <Gonozal_VIII> why would slovenia have a k? 20:26:43 <Gonozal_VIII> ok, the domains don't always make sense... 20:27:01 <pavel1269> :o) 20:27:12 <James152> to pavel1269: Yes from Slovakia 20:27:24 <pavel1269> takze mi rozumis? :) 20:27:33 <James152> jasne ze ti rozumiem 20:27:39 <pavel1269> just tryed ^^ 20:27:50 <James152> try ::D 20:28:08 <Gonozal_VIII> they have a secret language! 20:28:12 <James152> FAQ: Can I help with OpenTTD? 20:28:15 <Gonozal_VIII> they'll take over the channel! 20:28:28 <pavel1269> Gonozal_VIII: hahaha! 20:28:47 <James152> to Gonozal_VIII: thats slovakian language, and Pavel is Czech 20:28:58 <Gonozal_VIII> i know that^^ 20:29:23 <Gonozal_VIII> can you speak a strange language called c(++)? 20:29:23 <pavel1269> James152: hele, ted jen tak napisu Gonozal_VIII a ty to ted potvrd anglicky, beztak se bude ptat :D jen tak pro srandu ;) 20:30:56 <James152> to pavel1269: jak chces, mozme 20:31:22 <Gonozal_VIII> :'( 20:31:28 <pavel1269> :) 20:31:30 <James152> to Gonozal_VIII: I often speak in PHP 20:31:33 <James152> :D 20:31:36 <Ozgu> :O 20:31:49 <pavel1269> 21:28 <James152> FAQ: Can I help with OpenTTD? <--- you need help or what? 20:32:11 <Gonozal_VIII> he has some help left and wants to share it^^ 20:33:23 <Gonozal_VIII> http://bugs.openttd.org/ <-- there's a list of bugs and patches and things like that 20:33:28 <James152> no no, i wanna help with development, if i can 20:34:19 <pavel1269> kick_Gonozal_VIII[ass]++ 20:34:20 <pavel1269> :P 20:34:41 <Gonozal_VIII> :P 20:34:51 <SpComb> unquoted strings (undefined constants) as array indexes? 20:34:53 <pavel1269> slap_Gonozal_VIII[head]++ 20:35:08 <pavel1269> SpComb: nvm that ,) 20:35:32 <pavel1269> so ... kick[Gonozal_VIII][ass]++; 20:35:43 <pavel1269> so ... slap[Gonozal_VIII][head]++; 20:35:44 <pavel1269> :) 20:35:52 <pavel1269> good now? 20:35:57 <SpComb> perhaps you'd rather have it as a function 20:36:04 <Gonozal_VIII> or not :P 20:36:14 <Zahl> or make it oop and have it as methods 20:36:15 <pavel1269> Perform(kick[Gonozal_VIII][ass]); 20:36:30 <SpComb> you'd end up with something like $chan->users["Gonozal_VIII"]->ass->kick(); 20:36:34 <pavel1269> >] 20:36:35 <pavel1269> :) 20:36:54 <James152> can be 20:36:55 <pavel1269> much better 20:37:22 <Gonozal_VIII> you all want to hurt meeeee :'( 20:37:35 <pavel1269> you want kiss? i guess no :D 20:38:05 <Gonozal_VIII> you've got a sister?^^ 20:38:09 <James152> or (INSERT into FOOLS Values "Gonozal_VIII" "31_12_07" "big fool from IRC") 20:38:21 <Zahl> pavel1269.kiss(Gonozal_VIII); 20:38:31 <pavel1269> Assertation failed 20:38:33 <Gonozal_VIII> don't sql me :P 20:38:33 <pavel1269> :) 20:38:45 <James152> sorry but i like SQL 20:39:09 <Zahl> stop sqling people around :-D 20:39:14 <pavel1269> hehe 20:39:19 <SpComb> what variant of SQL that doesn't use brackets and commas for the VALUES section? 20:39:34 <Zahl> JameSQL i guess ;) 20:39:41 <SpComb> and your casing of keywords and identifiers is quite inconsitent 20:39:51 <pavel1269> INSERT into FOOLS Values ('Gonozal_VIII','31_12_07','big fool from IRC') 20:40:05 <SpComb> you have all-caps, all-lower, and CamelCase keywords 20:40:21 <pavel1269> insert into fools values('Gonozal_VIII','31_12_07','big fool from IRC'); 20:40:23 <pavel1269> :) 20:40:27 <SpComb> better 20:40:41 <Rubidium_> James152: the best way to get into the development of OpenTTD is by fixing bugs; it makes you very quickly familiar with lots of the deep backends of OpenTTD *and* fixing bugs is a requirement for releasing new stuff. 20:40:43 <Gonozal_VIII> NOT better :P 20:40:44 <James152> to SpComb: dont find mistakes, or you are debugger? 20:41:05 <pavel1269> :D 20:41:05 <Gonozal_VIII> he's a bot 20:41:14 <SpComb> James152: the custom date format is kind of icky 20:41:20 <James152> to Rubidium_: how to share info about mistakes? 20:41:31 <SpComb> Logs: http://spbot.marttila.de:8120/logs/oftc-ottd (old: http://zapotek.paivola.fi/~terom/logs/openttd ) 20:41:31 <Gonozal_VIII> !logs 20:41:35 <Gonozal_VIII> see, bot 20:41:40 <pavel1269> hehehe 20:41:41 <SpComb> lies 20:41:43 *** strstrep [brigad@ip68-9-207-179.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit [Quit: This was a triumph. I'm making a note here, HUGE SUCCESS.] 20:41:55 <James152> ok and what about NewGRF? 20:41:57 <Rubidium_> James152: known bugs are at bugs.openttd.org 20:42:20 <Gonozal_VIII> i already posted that link rubidium, i rock^^ 20:42:27 <Rubidium_> there you can comment on bugs and provide patches for them using the 'comment' feature of the 'issue tracking system' 20:42:48 <James152> ok 20:43:03 <James152> i got one 20:43:04 <Rubidium_> especially the 'providing patches' (read fixes) for bugs is appreciated 20:43:23 <James152> why OpenTTD sometimes donÂŽn find all servers? 20:43:36 <James152> *donÂŽt find 20:44:11 <Rubidium_> firewalls, the fact that UDP isn't certain to arrive at the destination and the fact that the server list is not always necessarily 100% up-to-date 20:44:46 <Rubidium_> though servers listed on the server list have been online (and reachable for the masterserver) over the last 5 to 10 minutes 20:45:10 <James152> to Rubidium_: ok, but before i flash "REFRESH" button, I got more servers in list 20:46:06 <Gonozal_VIII> first you only have the servers from your cfg 20:46:39 <stillunknown> I suggest you focus on bugs that can be reproduced without problems (those that do not involve the internet). 20:47:35 <stillunknown> Maybe a nice null pointer dereference or an assert, with savegame. 20:47:40 <James152> ok, i try to solve it 20:47:43 <Rubidium_> or rather, focus on confirmed bugs 20:49:32 <James152> ok 20:49:49 <peter__> god this laptop's io performance sucks 20:56:48 *** UnderBuilder [~chatzilla@168.226.106.131] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.79 [Firefox 2.0.0.11/2007112718]] 20:59:45 <James152> i will back soon 21:02:11 *** Hendikins [~wolfox@CPE-124-189-3-149.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 21:06:51 *** James152 [~vatrtj@adsl-dyn39.78-98-117.t-com.sk] has quit [] 21:13:54 *** peterbrett [~peter@cpc2-oxfd6-0-0-cust544.oxfd.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:18:35 <pavel1269> well, i think he will not make any bugfix/patch soon 21:18:35 <pavel1269> :/ 21:19:23 <pavel1269> since he hasn't known that it is written in c(++) and he need compiler for that :-/ 21:20:09 *** flaa [~flaa@dasni2819.ulapland.fi] has joined #openttd 21:20:22 <flaa> Happy new year! 21:20:38 <pavel1269> wait 2h ;) 21:21:40 <Gonozal_VIII> 1h 38min 20 sec:-) 21:22:19 <flaa> where can i find the GRVTS set version 0.3? 21:22:25 <SpComb> 37 minutes and 35 seconds 21:22:32 <pavel1269> hehe 21:33:44 *** gafsdhafjshgasjkghdsg [~Gonozal_V@N834P009.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 21:33:44 *** Gonozal_VIII is now known as Guest1812 21:33:44 *** Guest1812 is now known as Guest1813 21:33:44 *** gafsdhafjshgasjkghdsg is now known as Gonozal_VIII 21:37:33 <pavel1269> hmm 21:37:38 *** Guest1813 [~Gonozal_V@M3118P023.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:42:51 *** laz0r [~laz0r@port-87-234-143-215.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:45:00 *** Aerandir [magic.powe@90-230-201-111-no37.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Quit: - nbs-irc 2.36 - www.nbs-irc.net -] 21:51:39 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: peter1138 * r11731 /trunk/src/train_cmd.cpp: 21:51:39 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Fix [FS#1582]: Clear sprite override data before performing NewGRF wagon attach callback. This stopped 21:51:39 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: the callback working for autoreplace and when moving wagons from train to train in a depot. 21:51:39 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Fix (r11724): Don't check wagon attach callback for the chain when moving a single wagon. 21:54:06 *** Greyscale is now known as Greysc[a]le 21:58:48 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@N834P009.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:15:42 <ln-> report from 2008: nothing to see, return to your homes. 22:16:34 <G> Brianetta: any reason for autopilot to be setting the server name to "Unnamed Server" (the server name is set correctly in openttd.cfg) 22:19:10 <ln-> and what, a peter1138? 22:24:05 *** Greysc[a]le is now known as Greyscale 22:24:57 <G> :S and now my rcon password doesn't want to work 22:25:08 <peter__> lies 22:35:39 <G> hmmm, works fine without autopilot except pause/unpause 22:36:50 <Brianetta> G: Autopilot sets the name? How? 22:36:56 <G> no idea 22:37:07 <Brianetta> Where do you see this name? 22:37:54 <Brianetta> Put it this way, there's no such string in autopilot as "Unnamed Server" 22:38:23 <G> but when I run normally (i.e. $PATH/openttd -D...) it uses the correct name per openttd.cfg, when using Autopilot, it actually recongises the name in the openttd.cfg file, and then in the server list it comes up as "Unamed Server" 22:38:31 <G> I have no idea how it's doing it 22:38:48 <G> I'm using 0.6.0-B2 btw 22:38:56 <Brianetta> So 22:39:04 <Brianetta> Which openttd.cfg are you using? 22:39:18 <G> save for both instances 22:39:31 <Brianetta> Which openttd.cfg are you using? 22:39:55 <Brianetta> autopilot reads all of its settings from the config file. It loads up before any saves. 22:40:14 <G> well .openttd/openttd.cfg, is identical to the one in my ap-2.0.4 directory (which AP uses) 22:40:19 <Brianetta> It's either ./openttd.cfg or the contents of OTTD_CONFIG if that exists 22:40:37 <Brianetta> Are you running it from ./openttd ? 22:40:53 <Brianetta> If you are not, you need to set OTTD_CONFIG 22:41:18 <Brianetta> otherwise it has no idea where to read its settings from 22:43:19 <Brianetta> http://openttdcoop.ppcis.org/wiki/index.php/Autopilot 22:43:26 <G> I changed 'command' in the Autopilot section to add -c etc 22:43:46 <Brianetta> Changing command only changes the openttd command line 22:43:56 <Brianetta> It does NOT change where autopilot reads it own settings 22:44:19 <Brianetta> You need to set OTTD_CONFIG as an environment variable, to the config file you intend to user 22:44:31 <Brianetta> or, you can edit the default in autopilot.tcl 22:44:53 <Brianetta> or, you can start autopilot from within the directory that contains openttd.cfg 22:45:03 <G> yeah, thats what I'm doing 22:45:22 <Brianetta> Remember, by the time the openttd command is run, autopilot has initialised itself and is running 22:45:31 <G> I have an openttd.cfg in the autopilot dir, which is identical to the one I normally use 22:46:16 <G> but mysterily as a result, rcon no longer works, and the server name disappears 22:46:47 <Brianetta> I recommend telling autopilot where the real config file is 22:47:21 <Brianetta> You did add the autopilot configuration to the openttd.cfg, I presume? 22:48:16 <G> yep 22:48:39 <G> hmmm, looks okay now 22:49:59 <G> brilliant, it all works, yeah, the environ variable seemed to be the problem 22:50:33 <Brianetta> Identical files aren't identical (: 22:50:43 <Brianetta> unless they have the same inode number, naturally 22:51:23 <G> good point 22:51:36 <G> could hardlinking fix it? 22:51:52 <Brianetta> No idea. The recommended solution is the one you used. 22:52:30 <Brianetta> What I do is symlink everything in my autopilot directory into my openttd bin directory, and run it from there 22:52:49 <Brianetta> then I can still svn up date openttd and autopilot separately 23:01:40 <pavel1269> HAPPY NEW YEAR!!! AND OT OF BUGFIXES :P 23:01:59 <pavel1269> *lot :/ 23:02:12 <Zahl> happy new year ;) 23:04:58 <Brianetta> meh 23:05:06 <Brianetta> IRC is a global medium. UTC, please. 23:10:23 *** tome [~tome@adsl-71-134-228-64.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #openttd 23:10:29 *** tome [~tome@adsl-71-134-228-64.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has left #openttd [Leaving] 23:17:05 *** Wolf01|AWAY is now known as Wolf01 23:21:36 *** peter__ [~petern@217.151.109.242] has quit [Quit: peter__] 23:25:15 *** peterbrett [~peter@cpc2-oxfd6-0-0-cust544.oxfd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 23:31:40 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@xdsl-84-44-234-167.netcologne.de] has joined #openttd 23:37:22 *** peterbrett [~peter@cpc2-oxfd6-0-0-cust544.oxfd.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:46:46 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@N834P009.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 23:47:11 <Gonozal_VIII> i'm back! 23:47:36 <qball> crap 23:47:39 <Gonozal_VIII> did you all miss me? haven't been here in this year 23:48:31 <Gonozal_VIII> :P 23:48:51 <Gonozal_VIII> 2008 is a good year... 23:49:02 <Gonozal_VIII> i started it with destroying stuff, so it must be good 23:49:11 *** qball [~qball@ipd50a4125.speed.planet.nl] has left #openttd [] 23:49:18 <Sacro> still 07 :p 23:49:30 <Gonozal_VIII> 08 :P 23:49:55 <G> it's been 08 here for 13 hrs, trust me, it's nothing to get excited over 23:49:56 <Gonozal_VIII> i broke an ashtray some minutes ago :-) 23:50:38 <Gonozal_VIII> made a nice, big candle out of it... put some small candles and some paper in... 23:51:11 <Gonozal_VIII> fire :D until the ashtray broke 23:51:31 <Gonozal_VIII> then wax all over the table... not so nice anymore 23:52:52 * Sacro whilstles 23:53:59 <Gonozal_VIII> why are you at the pc sacro? you have to blow stuff up in 6 minutes 23:55:20 *** flaa [~flaa@dasni2819.ulapland.fi] has quit [Quit: leaving] 23:56:06 <Sacro> Gonozal_VIII: meh, will be going soon 23:56:51 <Gonozal_VIII> bad thing that white fluffy stuff all over everything outside.. absorbs all explosions 23:57:39 <pavel1269> gn 23:57:46 <Gonozal_VIII> plopp instead of boom 23:57:49 <Gonozal_VIII> night