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00:03:40 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c220-239-221-78.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 00:05:45 *** thgergo [~Administr@dsl51B7894D.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:06:59 *** Brianetta [~brian@77-103-231-158.cable.ubr05.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 00:08:35 *** Priski [priski@xob.kapsi.fi] has joined #openttd 00:38:37 *** UnderBuilder [~chatzilla@168.226.104.65] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.80 [Firefox 2.0.0.12/2008020121]] 00:49:37 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@145-118-108-75.fttx.bbned.nl] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 00:52:46 <Eddi|zuHause2> i hate sleep... 00:53:00 <Eddi|zuHause2> it never comes when one wants to... 00:53:56 <glx> Eddi|zuHause2: http://glx.dnsalias.net:8080/openttd/omit_wires.diff <-- I have this version (seems to work correctly) 00:55:28 <Eddi|zuHause2> yeah, i made some "fundamental" modifications now 00:55:44 <SmatZ> what about non-electrified crossings and stations as neighbours? and tunnels and bridges? 00:56:11 <glx> SmatZ has a point :) 00:56:12 <Eddi|zuHause2> SmatZ: too complicated, imho 00:56:56 <SmatZ> that's right, you are not even checking if the neighbour has trackbit connected with your electrified track 00:57:22 <SmatZ> GetRailType(TileAddByDiagDir(t, d)) == RAILTYPE_ELECTRIC 00:57:40 <SmatZ> maybe != RAILTYPE_NORMAL ? 00:57:49 <SmatZ> but that's a little difference ;) 00:58:04 <SmatZ> GetTileType(TileAddByDiagDir(t, d)) != MP_RAILWAY can be replaced by IsTileType() 00:58:04 *** Zahl [~Zahl@p549F3EB4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: (~_~]"] 00:58:10 <Eddi|zuHause2> maybe, but really, those are track combinations that make no sense 00:58:47 <SmatZ> yeah, true is that it is only eye-candy problem - and if somebody builds useless track combinations just to make it looking ugly, it is his problem... 00:58:51 <Eddi|zuHause2> hm, that might be done... i copied that check from the existing function there 00:58:59 <SmatZ> + for (Track track = TRACK_BEGIN; track < TRACK_END; track++) { 00:59:13 <SmatZ> I think RemoveFirstTrackbit would be better 00:59:17 <SmatZ> or not 00:59:29 <Eddi|zuHause2> SmatZ: that is not there anymore in my new version 00:59:34 <SmatZ> maybe, if there is TrackBitToExitDir or so 00:59:36 <Eddi|zuHause2> http://bugs.openttd.org/task/1761 00:59:37 <SmatZ> ah 00:59:51 <glx> my diff is based on the previous version 01:01:49 <SmatZ> it will make priorities with electrified rail looking much better :) 01:02:08 <Eddi|zuHause2> that's the plan ;) 01:03:19 <Eddi|zuHause2> there might be rare occasions where pylons might end up on (now masked out) trackbits, i'm not sure... 01:04:47 <SmatZ> maybe a comment that it is not expected to be fast, but it should work fast should be added so people like me do not try to make it exact and slower :-D 01:05:15 <SmatZ> maybe it should be 'inline' when it is called only once... 01:05:27 <SmatZ> and is really short 01:05:47 <Eddi|zuHause2> when it's static, the compiler might figure that out on its own 01:06:13 <Eddi|zuHause2> i'm not worried that much about fast... 01:06:19 <SmatZ> there is -finline-functions-used-once , but I am not sure if it is enabled by default 01:06:26 <Eddi|zuHause2> as long as it's not like O(n^2) or something... 01:06:39 <SmatZ> :) 01:06:56 <SmatZ> hmm there isn't , I don't remember the name of that switch... 01:07:09 <CIA-5> OpenTTD: belugas * r12105 /trunk/src/tunnelbridge_cmd.cpp: -Codechange: Use TransportType instead of guessing what kind of bridge we are preparing to build 01:07:22 <Eddi|zuHause2> special cases like bridges and stations can be added quite easily, i think 01:07:54 <SmatZ> that would be probably useless check ... 01:08:02 <glx> don't forget tunnels and crossings 01:08:06 <SmatZ> it is now counted as 'no rail', so 'electrified' 01:08:15 <SmatZ> peter was talking about speed a lot... 01:08:54 <Eddi|zuHause2> yes, i deliberately counted that stuff as electrified, to not worry about most of the special cases 01:09:20 *** Species8472- [~nnscript@ip54576152.direct-adsl.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:09:28 *** Species8472 [~nnscript@ip54576152.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #openttd 01:10:45 <SmatZ> you could use GetRailType() and GetTileTrackStatus()... 01:10:55 <SmatZ> but it would probably slow things down 01:11:44 <Eddi|zuHause2> http://bugs.openttd.org/?getfile=2426 <- bad pylon 01:12:01 <SmatZ> hmm yes 01:12:07 <SmatZ> bad, bad pylon! 01:12:30 <Eddi|zuHause2> wire placement needs the masked bits, pylon placement the unmasked bits 01:13:18 <SmatZ> won't it place pylons at places where is not wire above? 01:13:31 <Eddi|zuHause2> possible... argh ;) 01:13:59 <Eddi|zuHause2> the devil is in the detail ;) 01:14:09 <SmatZ> :-) 01:17:00 <Eddi|zuHause2> http://users.informatik.uni-halle.de/~krause/elrails.jpg <- i wish celestar listened to me 2 years ago ;) 01:18:29 <SmatZ> that's a lot of work with that :) 01:18:47 <SmatZ> you have had this idea for very long time ;) 01:18:49 <Eddi|zuHause2> that picture is dated 15th March 2006, i think it was one of the earliest releases in the elrail branch 01:19:12 <Eddi|zuHause2> no, 14th March 01:20:35 <glx> the slope thing is fixed IIRC 01:20:48 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@M3127P023.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 01:20:50 <Eddi|zuHause2> yes, it was fixed right away 01:21:18 <Eddi|zuHause2> but on the crossing thing he said something like "maybe later" 01:21:21 *** Tron_ [~tron@p54A3FF4C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 01:21:46 <SmatZ> usually, maybe = very unlikely 01:22:14 <Eddi|zuHause2> where did i put logs from march 2006? 01:22:34 <Eddi|zuHause2> bah... i used windows back then... 01:24:22 <Eddi|zuHause2> i should really try to sleep... must get up early... 01:24:27 <Gonozal_VIII> morning 01:26:23 <SmatZ> morning 01:28:42 *** Tron [~tron@p54A3CC8A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:29:12 <Gonozal_VIII> Use TransportType instead of guessing what kind of bridge we are preparing to build <-- guessing? 01:35:37 *** Eddi|zuHause3 [~johekr@p54B77DC8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 01:42:01 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B748B3.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:51:48 *** Jortuny [~octernion@r253186120.resnet.cornell.edu] has joined #openttd 01:53:25 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@M3127P023.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:03:28 *** SmatZ [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:17:11 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@N727P013.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 02:18:39 *** divo [~asd@0x4dd443c6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Quit: Quitting] 02:22:19 <Gonozal_VIII> oh noes, teh warningz! 02:23:21 <Gonozal_VIII> tunnelbridge_cmd.cpp line 223 and 359 TRANSPORT_WATER and TRANSPORT_END not handled in switch 02:32:57 <glx> known 02:44:58 <Gonozal_VIII> why not just add default: break; ? 02:45:11 *** Ammller [~Ammler@adsl-89-217-128-219.adslplus.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:46:07 <pv2b> because that'd kill the warning, and it might be something that needs to be fixed at some point? 03:21:57 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@ip-62-143-77-44.1311A-CUD12K-02.ish.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 03:23:17 <CIA-5> OpenTTD: belugas * r12106 /trunk/src/tunnelbridge_cmd.cpp: -Fix(r12105): Kill warnings and raise an error when the transport type is not supported 03:23:27 <Belugas> yes, guessing, as in if bit is set, it must be road, otherwise, it must be rail 03:26:33 <Gonozal_VIII> hello belugas :-) 03:26:49 *** Neverhood [~Neverhood@123.116.102.233] has joined #openttd 03:28:13 <Belugas> hello Gonozal_VIII :) 03:28:33 <Belugas> a few moments of liberty my wife allowed me, and poof! an error :( 03:28:36 <Belugas> boooh 03:29:15 <Gonozal_VIII> error? 03:29:42 <Belugas> r12105 03:30:07 <Belugas> r1200X??? 03:30:08 <Belugas> wow.. 03:30:14 <Belugas> have not seen it 03:30:28 <Gonozal_VIII> huh? 03:30:36 <Belugas> mmh.. 03:30:39 <Belugas> nerver mind 03:30:46 * Belugas is sleepy 03:30:47 <Gonozal_VIII> are you drunk?^^ 03:31:05 <Belugas> naaaaa... 03:31:25 <Belugas> i may have drank a few glasses at noon, but it's all gone by now 03:31:45 <Belugas> was my wife's birthday party at her parents house 03:32:01 <Belugas> Pineau Des Charentes :) 03:32:08 <Belugas> good stuff ;) 03:32:12 * Belugas likes it a lot 03:32:54 <Gonozal_VIII> i never drink alcohol so i wouldn't know 03:35:38 <Belugas> everybody's got their vices 03:39:37 <Belugas> but i do't drink oftenly, only on occasions 03:39:52 <Belugas> and i quit smoking a while ago 03:39:56 <Belugas> so... not os bad 03:40:10 <Belugas> if it was not for ottd, i'm almost vices free ^_^ 03:40:57 <Gonozal_VIII> openttd is part of a healthy life 03:45:52 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: bye] 03:58:30 *** Gekz [~brendan@cpe-124-183-21-103.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 04:12:42 <CIA-5> OpenTTD: belugas * r12107 /trunk/src/ (bridge.h bridge_gui.cpp bridge_map.h tunnelbridge_cmd.cpp): -Codechange: Add and use the typedef BridgeType 04:22:12 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@dhcp-077-249-197-241.chello.nl] has quit [Quit: You just lost the game] 04:23:46 *** mo [~Maui_key@p5498EEEC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 04:23:48 *** mcbane2 [~Maui_key@p5498E31C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:37:06 *** Osai^zZz [~Osai@pD9EB5F45.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Osai^zZz] 05:00:34 *** MarwolTuk|Lappy__ [~chatzilla@p549EF874.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 05:07:05 *** MarwolTuk|Lappy [~chatzilla@p549EEFA1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:09:42 *** Jortuny [~octernion@r253186120.resnet.cornell.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:09:53 *** gfldex [~dex@dslb-088-074-139-204.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 05:11:46 *** gfldex_ [~dex@dslb-088-074-159-041.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:38:23 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 05:48:57 *** DJ-Nekkid [~DJNekkid@static128-249.adsl.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:58:51 *** Tron_ is now known as Tron 06:08:38 *** Smoky555 [~Miranda@80.69.148.14] has joined #openttd 06:08:51 <Smoky555> hi all ! 06:09:00 <Gonozal_VIII> hi 06:09:16 <Smoky555> i have a question about compiling OpenTTD in MS VS 2005/2008 ... 06:11:33 <Gonozal_VIII> nobody can answer if you don't ask ;-) 06:11:43 <Smoky555> from some time, i get graphical artefacts after compiling, such as http://forums.ttdrussia.net/viewtopic.php?t=2447 (page on russian). What's wrong? 06:12:13 *** DJ-Nekkid [~DJNekkid@gprs-ggsn6-nat.mobil.telenor.no] has joined #openttd 06:12:24 <Gonozal_VIII> can't read that 06:13:11 <Smoky555> artefacts on pictures, not in text 06:13:58 <Gonozal_VIII> do you have a screenshot of that? 06:14:42 <Smoky555> http://forums.ttdrussia.net/download.php?id=3524 06:15:28 <Gonozal_VIII> doesn't work 06:16:53 <Gonozal_VIII> some forum error message 06:16:55 <Smoky555> http://open.ttdrussia.net/t_p1_101.png 06:17:11 <Gonozal_VIII> ah those 06:17:13 <Gonozal_VIII> missing sprites 06:17:42 <Gonozal_VIII> hmm 06:19:05 <Gonozal_VIII> what version is that? 06:19:14 <Smoky555> on other computer, WinXP, MSVS2005 - all compilings fine 06:19:45 <Smoky555> verson of OpenTTD ? any version 06:20:05 *** MarwolTuk|Lappy__ [~chatzilla@p549EF874.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:21:10 <Gonozal_VIII> all those ? signs are missing sprites, i don't know why you're missing them 06:21:36 <Gonozal_VIII> did you compile with a clean checkout? 06:22:21 <Smoky555> yes 06:22:22 <Gonozal_VIII> all files there, no missing or corrupted openttdw.grf or something? 06:22:28 <Smoky555> yes 06:23:46 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i577B71A5.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 06:24:22 <Gonozal_VIII> i'm no developer and i don't know much about compilers... my advice would be to use a different compiler 06:24:37 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F54893.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 06:30:07 *** HerzogDeXtE1 [~Flex@i577B707D.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:47:22 *** Smoky555 [~Miranda@80.69.148.14] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:10:41 *** XeryusTC [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has joined #openttd 07:12:13 *** DJ-Nekk|d [~DJNekkid@gprs-ggsn6-nat.mobil.telenor.no] has joined #openttd 07:13:44 *** Ammller [~Ammler@adsl-62-167-44-42.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 07:15:25 *** DJ-Nekkid [~DJNekkid@gprs-ggsn6-nat.mobil.telenor.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:15:31 *** Smoky555 [~Miranda@80.69.148.14] has joined #openttd 07:31:17 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c220-239-221-78.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: ThePizzaKing] 07:33:52 *** Christoph [~lekro@S01060014513484ae.ss.shawcable.net] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 07:53:53 *** peter1138 [~petern@217.151.109.242] has joined #openttd 07:53:53 *** mode/#openttd [+o peter1138] by ChanServ 07:55:00 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@145-118-108-75.fttx.bbned.nl] has joined #openttd 08:06:29 <Nicko[work]> . 08:06:49 <Gonozal_VIII> , 08:10:49 *** Brianetta [~brian@77-103-231-158.cable.ubr05.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 08:17:22 *** mikl [~mikl@0x5733cec6.boanxx22.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 08:24:01 <Forked> \o/ 08:29:10 *** Tron [~tron@p54A3FF4C.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [Client exiting] 08:33:22 *** Hendikins [~wolfox@CPE-124-189-3-149.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Quit: Any technology, no matter how primitive, is magic to those who don't understand it] 08:36:58 *** Brianetta [~brian@77-103-231-158.cable.ubr05.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Quit: To work!] 08:38:42 *** peter1138 [~petern@217.151.109.242] has quit [Quit: bwaaahahaha, te eeeh eeehee boingk!] 08:40:14 *** Dark_Link^ [~glidegame@fw.dormnet.his.se] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.2 :: www.regroup-esports.com )] 08:41:15 *** Hendikins [~wolfox@CPE-124-189-3-149.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 09:13:14 *** peter1138 [~petern@petern.bnsnet.co.uk] has joined #openttd 09:13:15 *** mode/#openttd [+o peter1138] by ChanServ 09:28:38 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:28:39 *** roboman [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 09:38:58 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:42:05 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has joined #openttd 09:54:25 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@N727P013.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:56:27 <HMage> Smoky555: did you try to compile a _clean_ svn checkout? 09:56:49 <Smoky555> yes 09:57:12 <HMage> do you use grfs that are checked out with the sources? 09:58:13 <Smoky555> yes 10:01:08 <peter1138> is it a norev or a rxxxx build? 10:02:01 <Smoky555> rXXXX build, 0.6.0beta1-2-3, any... 10:02:20 <peter1138> yerss.... 10:02:29 <peter1138> what does it show in the title bar 10:06:41 <Nicko[work]> ЎПбÑПгП ÐŽÐœÑ, Smoky555 ;) 10:07:52 <Gekz> haha 10:15:23 <Smoky555> peter1138: i can tell you here or on forums only tomorrow, because this problems is in my home comp. 10:15:38 <Smoky555> Nicko[work]: Ú âà ì òîãî Êå ;) 10:16:22 <Nicko[work]> utf8 pls ;) 10:17:05 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1EE7F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 10:17:29 <Smoky555> Nicko[work] : à ñåé÷à ñ? 10:18:19 <ln-_> Smoky555: see topic; UTF-8 is mandatory. 10:18:22 <Nicko[work]> wrong encoding 10:19:40 *** Smoky555 [~Miranda@80.69.148.14] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:21:37 *** Smoky555 [~Miranda@80.69.148.14] has joined #openttd 10:22:50 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@N723P007.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 10:23:32 *** Zavior [~zavior@d195-237-7-167.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 10:25:13 *** divo [~asd@0x4dd443c6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 10:28:02 <peter1138> Smoky555, if it shows as norev then you'll need to manually specify its revision, somewhere (I'm not sure where off hand) 10:28:35 <Smoky555> yes, i know, i did it 10:33:49 <Gekz> Smoky555: hahahaha 10:33:55 <Gekz> :D 10:34:05 <Smoky555> peter1138: but if it shows as norev this artefacts MUST be present or not? 10:35:14 <peter1138> They will be present, 10:35:42 <Smoky555> peter1138: ok, i see, thanks 10:35:50 *** Zahl [~Zahl@p549F233E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 10:43:05 <HMage> Smoky555: ЎПбÑÑй ÐŽÐµÐœÑ :) 10:43:17 <HMage> Nicko[work]: ÑПже ÑÑÑÑкПгПвПÑÑÑОй? 10:43:23 <Nicko[work]> ага 10:43:38 <HMage> Ñ Ð¿ÐŸÐŽÐŸÐ·ÑеваÑ, ÑÑП ln-_ ÑПже :) 10:43:53 <Gekz> Ð ÑаМ пÑеÑеМЎ ÑП Ñпеак ÑÑÑÑОаМ аМЎ ПÑÑ ÐµÑ ÑÑÑÑОаМ-лОке лаМгÑÐ°Ð³ÐµÑ ÑПП! 10:44:02 <HMage> :D 10:44:11 <Gekz> HMage: you can read it cant you 10:44:11 <Gekz> haha 10:44:19 <Nicko[work]> ÐÐ85 ÑПÑева! 10:44:34 <HMage> it's makes you speak funny language that uses cyrillic :) 10:45:18 *** roboman [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:45:47 <Gekz> lol 10:45:57 <Gekz> I love transliteration 10:46:11 <HMage> yeah, it's same as if we'd write russian in latin 10:46:35 <HMage> Ya mogu delat' vid chto govoryu na angliyskom b podobnyh yazykah! 10:46:43 <HMage> b=i 10:46:46 <Gekz> áŠá¯á áá áŠáŽ áááŠá ááááá¡ á á áŽá»! 10:46:51 <peter1138> :o 10:46:56 <HMage> that's a lot of squares Geks 10:46:58 <HMage> that's a lot of squares Gekz 10:46:58 <Gekz> ášáµá£ ᥠá á á á³á³ááœ! 10:47:08 <Gekz> get some fonts fool! 10:47:09 <HMage> I don't have font faces for that 10:47:14 <HMage> I won't :P 10:47:20 <Gekz> that was Inuktitut 10:47:24 <HMage> lol 10:47:25 <Gekz> Canadian aboriginal 10:47:26 * peter1138 attempts to convert a network to PBS withoutc rashes... 10:47:30 <keyweed_> ááááá á¡ááá·á¬ 10:47:36 <Gekz> ᥠáµááá áµáá° á®á¡á á¶á¡á! 10:47:41 <HMage> йа кÑевеЎкП 10:47:54 <Noldo> peter1138: are you allergic to it then? 10:47:54 <Gonozal_VIII> oh... forgot to update post 10:48:00 <peter1138> Yes. 10:48:19 * HMage goes back to coding load-balancer 10:48:41 <Smoky555> HMage: как ÑаÑ, Ма ÑÑÑÑкПЌ ОлО ПпÑÑÑ Ñ ÐŒÐµÐœÑ ÑÑП-ÑП Ñ ÐºÐŸÐŽÐŸÐ²ÐŸÐ¹ ÑÑÑаМОÑей? 10:48:45 <Gekz> I demand the azerty keyboard 10:48:51 <HMage> Smoky555: Ўа, ÑепеÑÑ Ð¿ÐŸÐœÑÑМП 10:48:52 <Gekz> I am using one hahahah 10:48:59 <Gonozal_VIII> hmmm something went wrong... filesize too low 10:49:07 <HMage> I have йÑÑкеМ keyboard :D 10:49:10 <Gekz> where's the question mark on this board ... 10:50:03 <peter1138> :o 10:50:12 <peter1138> There -> ? 10:50:20 <HMage> copy and paste it :) 10:50:53 <Gekz> NO 10:50:57 <Gekz> that's heathen talk 10:51:02 <Gekz> ^ 10:51:28 <HMage> Gekz: AltGr+63 on keypad :) 10:51:30 <Gekz> £ 10:51:31 <Gekz> ⬠10:51:49 <Gekz> !! 10:51:51 <Gekz> I r leet. 10:51:52 <HMage> ȫȬÈȮȯȰ 10:51:57 <Gekz> -_- 10:51:59 <Gekz> I'll find you 10:52:00 <HMage> I dunno what was that 10:52:07 <HMage> Ê <-- that's 666 10:52:43 <HMage> e à į Æ Ç¹ É Ë Ìš Î Ï© ß à®» 10:52:53 <HMage> I hope noone's client gets confused on above line 10:53:24 <HMage> that's 101, 202, 303, 404, 505, 606, 707, 808, 909, 1001 10:53:27 <Gonozal_VIII> nah, displays the black squares perfectly well 10:53:32 <HMage> :D 10:53:37 <HMage> i r squared 10:53:43 * blathijs is seeing a lot of squares :-) 10:53:44 <Nicko[work]> â 10:53:48 *** shodan [user@xerxes.foocode.net] has joined #openttd 10:53:55 <HMage> È« <-- square! 10:54:06 <HMage> now I need to find triangle, circle and X 10:54:10 <HMage> wait.. I have X already 10:54:14 <peter1138> Gah, my keypad is stuck in cursor mode... what's the keypress to toggle that? 10:54:24 <HMage> hold altgr then type on keypad 10:54:33 <peter1138> Ah, shift-alt-numlock 10:54:51 <HMage> no need to have numlock lit 10:54:55 <Nicko[work]> ââ 10:55:22 <HMage> ÃÅÅÅÅÅÅÅÅÅÅ 10:55:30 <HMage> I speak intergalactic 10:55:32 <mikl> Nicko[work]: dirty boy ;) 10:55:42 <HMage> dunno what I said though 10:56:00 <HMage> probably "I need more practice on speaking intergalactic and oh by they way I'm an idiot" 10:56:10 <HMage> s/they/the/ 10:56:18 <Nicko[work]> this is eyes :P 10:56:34 <HMage> where? 10:56:44 <Gekz> I just gulped and I got lock jaw 10:56:45 <Gekz> I lose. 10:57:03 <Nicko[work]> â in the soviet russia, unicode writes YOU! â 10:57:09 <Gekz> ha. 10:57:10 <Gekz> no. 10:57:12 <Gekz> fail. 10:57:17 <mikl> lol 10:57:21 <Gekz> In Soviet Russia, funny are your jokes. 10:57:52 <Smoky555> HMage: ÐŽÐ»Ñ ÐŒÐµÐ¶Ð³Ð°Ð»Ð°ÐºÑОÑеÑкПгП лÑÑÑе ОÑпПлÑзПваÑÑ ÑÑÑÑкОй ÑазгПвПÑÐœÑй -> ЌОМОЌÑÐŒ ÑлПв - ЌакÑОЌÑÐŒ ÑÐŒÑÑла 11:00:21 <mikl> Smoky555: the only world I recognise there is "russkij" :) 11:00:24 *** shodan [user@xerxes.foocode.net] has quit [Quit: Client Exiting] 11:01:33 <Gonozal_VIII> aaaaah filesize was wrong because i forgot to select the new files while creating the patch 11:01:40 <ln-_> mikl: *world* ... 11:02:04 <mikl> ln-_: ? 11:02:20 <ln-_> 13:00 < mikl> Smoky555: the only world I recognise there is "russkij" :) 11:02:42 <mikl> I don't get it... 11:02:57 <Gekz> o.o 11:03:08 <Gekz> LOL 11:03:18 <Gekz> ln-_: it's alright, dont weild that knife like that 11:03:21 <Gekz> he's a small boy. 11:03:33 <Smoky555> mikl : translating: for intergalactic speaking it is better to use russian spoken language -> minimum words - maximum sense 11:04:23 <Gonozal_VIII> nah, that would be binary 11:04:27 <mikl> heh :) 11:05:03 *** Roujin [~Roujin@p54973075.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 11:05:06 <keyweed_> conversations would get time consuming. 11:05:12 <Roujin> g'day 11:06:10 <Gekz> I AM ONE WITH THE 1'S! 11:06:30 <Gonozal_VIII> and what about the 0s? :O 11:06:44 <Gekz> fuck the 0s 11:06:46 <Gekz> theyre nothing to me 11:06:47 <Gekz> hahaha 11:06:59 <Gekz> this pun usage is a cancer. 11:07:00 <Gonozal_VIII> try binary without them ;-) 11:07:05 <Gekz> I can't 11:07:08 <Gekz> binary is base 2 11:07:12 <Gekz> without the 0's its not binary 11:07:16 <Gekz> nub! 11:07:20 <Gekz> base 1 would kick ass 11:07:21 <Gekz> :D 11:07:26 <Gekz> 1 11 111 1111 11111 11:08:12 <Gonozal_VIII> well... you could still morse 11:08:30 <Gekz> .--. -.- .-.-- 11:08:33 <Gekz> .-.-.-!@@ 11:08:49 <Gekz> you'd think in this modern society we'd have polyphonic morse code 11:08:52 <Gekz> tsk tsk 11:09:03 <Hendikins> There is no base 1. 11:09:14 <Gekz> Hendikins: Thank you for your valid input. 11:09:17 <mikl> All your base... 11:09:20 <Gonozal_VIII> ...---... 11:09:41 <Hendikins> mikl: Roses are red, violets are blue, all of my base, are belong to you? :P 11:10:04 <mikl> Hendikins: that's so sweet of you ;) 11:12:15 <Roujin> where the hell have i gotten into upon joining this channel oO 11:12:44 <keyweed_> masochism? 11:12:49 <Roujin> had a nice long sleep gonozal? :) 11:13:20 *** shodan [user@xerxes.foocode.net] has joined #openttd 11:14:20 <Gonozal_VIII> woke up at 2 11:14:56 *** helb [~helb@62.240.176.23] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 11:15:15 *** helb [~helb@62.240.176.23] has joined #openttd 11:15:36 <Roujin> you should really get your sleep rhythm straight... 11:16:39 <Noldo> Roujin: it's not like this all the time 11:17:44 *** SmatZ [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has joined #openttd 11:18:00 <SmatZ> hello 11:20:06 <Gonozal_VIII> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=36127 11:20:09 <Gonozal_VIII> new version 11:20:14 <Gonozal_VIII> teh yays 11:20:16 <Gonozal_VIII> ;-) 11:21:13 <SmatZ> :) 11:21:55 <CIA-5> OpenTTD: peter1138 * r12108 /trunk/src/newgrf_commons.cpp: -Fix [FS#1753]: X/Y axis swap for station tiles in GetNearbyTile() was wrong way around. 11:22:51 <Roujin> yay you changed the filename ^^ 11:24:41 <Gonozal_VIII> loan patch is the new version with shift of course 11:26:28 <Gonozal_VIII> and the pathfinder selection patch is a bit different coding stye wise but does the same 11:26:35 <Gonozal_VIII> +l 11:28:10 <Gonozal_VIII> oh and i changed that error kamerat reported.. 11:28:24 *** shodan [user@xerxes.foocode.net] has quit [Quit: Client Exiting] 11:28:34 <Gonozal_VIII> bah... changed a lot, can't remember 11:28:44 <Roujin> oh and i changed that error kamerat reported.. <-- in which patch? 11:28:49 *** mucht_work [~Martin@143.50.125.24] has joined #openttd 11:28:50 <Gonozal_VIII> paxdest 11:29:23 *** ben_goodger [~ben@host81-153-69-137.range81-153.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:29:41 <Gonozal_VIII> i didn't get that error, seems to be compiler dependant... but i added that cast 11:31:06 <Roujin> aha 11:31:25 <Roujin> whose paxdest did you include, anyways? or is there only one actually 11:31:51 <Gonozal_VIII> the most recent version i could find 11:31:56 <Roujin> i lost track of the paxdest topic some months ago i guess ^^ 11:33:25 <Gonozal_VIII> that version came with lots and lots of patchsettings, too much to mix with the other patches so i had to move them to a new tab 11:34:05 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@62.143.77.44] has joined #openttd 11:34:15 <Gonozal_VIII> hmmm you replied right after a screenshot of my version^^ 11:35:14 <Noldo> I like that pathfinder selection thing, I had similar thing in mind 11:37:47 *** shodan [user@xerxes.foocode.net] has joined #openttd 11:37:55 <Roujin> is it nifty noldo? 11:38:03 <Roujin> gonna check out your new pack gonozal :) 11:38:31 <Gonozal_VIII> :-) 11:41:00 *** Diabolic1Angel [~dia@ip-62-143-77-44.1311A-CUD12K-02.ish.de] has joined #openttd 11:41:33 <Gonozal_VIII> digging throught the code, merging patches, trying to solve conflicts and such can be real fun :-) 11:41:36 <SmatZ> Gonozal_VIII: what is this? :-D last five lines of the patch: 11:41:38 <SmatZ> - 11:41:38 <SmatZ> + 11:42:09 <SmatZ> - } else { 11:42:09 <SmatZ> + } else { /*NTP is selected*/ 11:42:12 <SmatZ> you missed this one :) 11:42:14 <Gonozal_VIII> i don't know... i keep deleting that but it always comes back 11:42:55 <Gonozal_VIII> i missed that? 11:43:16 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@62.143.77.44] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:43:33 <SmatZ> there is missing a space.. 11:43:50 <Gonozal_VIII> whatwhere 11:46:01 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@ip-62-143-77-44.1311A-CUD12K-02.ish.de] has joined #openttd 11:50:02 <Roujin> something is modifying the czech.txt and that makes turtoisesvn go mad 11:50:11 <Gonozal_VIII> hehe 11:50:16 <Gonozal_VIII> vehicle speed limits 11:50:33 <Roujin> gives an error 11:50:39 <Gonozal_VIII> just don't modify that file if you don't use czech 11:51:12 *** Diabolic1Angel [~dia@ip-62-143-77-44.1311A-CUD12K-02.ish.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:51:51 <Roujin> fine. 11:51:58 <Roujin> but where does the error come from 11:52:32 <Gonozal_VIII> i don't know... maybe i broke the encoding of the strange chars... 11:52:34 *** Brianetta [~brian@77-103-231-158.cable.ubr05.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 11:53:24 <mikl> Gonozal_VIII: can't you just revert it? 11:54:34 <Gonozal_VIII> i don't even know what's wrong there 11:55:46 <Gonozal_VIII> some error like line bla and line bla (looks exactly the same) are not the same 11:56:33 <Roujin> not exactly the same for me, for me one of the lines has a : or such instead of some accented special character 11:56:50 <Roujin> but meh 11:57:30 <Roujin> i don't care about custom languages anyways, always play in english (even if i'm not a native english speaker) 11:57:39 <Gonozal_VIII> me too 11:57:54 *** Tino|R152 [~tino@52N.UNI-MUENSTER.DE] has joined #openttd 11:58:16 <Gonozal_VIII> and almost every string is too long for the windows in german.. 11:59:16 *** peter1138 [~petern@petern.bnsnet.co.uk] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 12:00:36 <Gonozal_VIII> ah now i see the difference too 12:00:43 <Gonozal_VIII> didn't notice it before 12:00:56 <Gonozal_VIII> e with upside down ^ on top is broken 12:01:43 <Roujin> use a normal e instead... 12:02:01 <Roujin> it's a little wrong then, but at least it will work :P 12:02:11 <Roujin> (my opinion) 12:02:35 <Gonozal_VIII> i'll just remove the czech^^ 12:02:52 <Gonozal_VIII> only one patch has that anyways, others use english strings 12:04:15 <Gonozal_VIII> your idea wouldn't work because it's not the new strings that get the error but the old ones before 12:05:02 <Roujin> fine then :P i won't complain about your patch not supplying czech language for the speedlimit patch ;) 12:07:40 <Gonozal_VIII> removed the czech lines.. nobody will notice (i hope)^^ 12:09:42 <Gonozal_VIII> how does one even type an upside down ^ ? 12:10:48 <Gonozal_VIII> `ÂŽ 12:10:57 <Gonozal_VIII> hehe 12:11:14 *** peter1138 [~petern@petern.bnsnet.co.uk] has joined #openttd 12:11:16 *** mode/#openttd [+o peter1138] by ChanServ 12:15:39 *** pm|away [~chatzilla@devera.geophys.nat.tu-bs.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:15:46 <Roujin> uhm.. with a czech keyboard, or alternatively if you know the right ascii code or something? :P 12:16:15 *** pm|away [~chatzilla@devera.geophys.nat.tu-bs.de] has joined #openttd 12:16:46 <Gekz> czech isnt a language 12:16:50 <Gekz> its a mess 12:16:53 <Roujin> C 12:17:06 <Gekz> ck 12:17:29 <Roujin> i found a C with a downside ^, its alt+268 :P 12:17:38 <Gekz> :) 12:17:42 <Gekz> no. 12:17:45 <Gekz> ç 12:17:46 <Gekz> = 12:20:15 <Gonozal_VIII> w00t where's the attachement 12:20:40 <Gonozal_VIII> i guess i didn't click submit 12:20:43 <Gekz> one day software will vbe lost 12:20:51 <Gekz> lost in time 12:21:49 *** shodan [user@xerxes.foocode.net] has quit [Quit: Client Exiting] 12:21:59 <Gonozal_VIII> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=36127 <-- version without can't patch that thingy 12:29:47 <Roujin> i think you made a mistake gonozal, english.txt seems not to include the new lines of the pathfinder selector 12:30:09 <Gonozal_VIII> hmmm that's bad 12:30:49 <Roujin> or wait 12:30:58 <Gonozal_VIII> but it works in my compiled version 12:31:03 <Roujin> nah my mistake probably 12:32:30 <Roujin> should have done make clean 12:35:09 *** peter1138 [~petern@petern.bnsnet.co.uk] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 12:35:44 *** peter1138 [~petern@petern.bnsnet.co.uk] has joined #openttd 12:35:47 *** mode/#openttd [+o peter1138] by ChanServ 12:38:16 <Roujin> ah now i know what it was 12:38:41 <Roujin> the lines that were removed from the english file because they aren't needed anymore 12:39:06 <Roujin> the other language files start to complain because they still have the old line and the master file hasn't 12:39:20 <Gonozal_VIII> hmmm 12:39:20 <Roujin> just warnings though 12:39:27 <Gonozal_VIII> reconfigure? 12:43:50 <SmatZ> it won't help, unused strings have to be removed from all language files 12:44:11 <peter1138> Or just put up with the warnings, heh 12:44:52 <Gonozal_VIII> i didn't get those warnings... 12:48:28 *** mucht_work [~Martin@143.50.125.24] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:51:21 *** aleex_ [alex@muh.cc] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:54:13 <CIA-5> OpenTTD: smatz * r12109 /trunk/src/aircraft_cmd.cpp: -Fix [FS#1745](r8973): use tile index 0 for planes in the air, so it cannot have an invalid tile index 13:03:36 *** DJ-Nekkid [~DJNekkid@gprs-ggsn6-nat.mobil.telenor.no] has joined #openttd 13:11:00 *** DJ-Nekk|d [~DJNekkid@gprs-ggsn6-nat.mobil.telenor.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:17:36 *** Brianetta [~brian@77-103-231-158.cable.ubr05.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:19:52 *** Jortuny [~octernion@r253186120.resnet.cornell.edu] has joined #openttd 13:29:31 *** Brianetta [~brian@77-103-231-158.cable.ubr05.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 13:30:02 *** Ammller [~Ammler@adsl-62-167-44-42.adslplus.ch] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:31:49 <peter1138> Well, bollocks 13:31:55 <peter1138> Bollocks bollocks bollocks 13:32:36 <Gonozal_VIII> no idea what that means and i don't think i want to know 13:34:38 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 13:34:41 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 13:35:08 *** Leviath [~thomas@z037133.its-s.tudelft.nl] has joined #openttd 13:39:22 *** |Bastiaan| [~Bastiaan@77.60.199.139] has joined #openttd 13:40:00 *** frosch123 [~mtce@newton.math.tu-clausthal.de] has joined #openttd 13:41:16 <glx> @op 13:41:19 *** mode/#openttd [+o glx] by DorpsGek 13:41:29 *** mode/#openttd [-b *!~Sogard@*.ph.ph.cox.net] by glx 13:41:43 <glx> @deop 13:41:44 *** mode/#openttd [-o glx] by DorpsGek 13:42:34 <Roujin> @gonozal: i think it refers to the feces of a male cow, in british english. 13:43:09 <Gonozal_VIII> didn't know that feces has gender specific names 13:43:22 <Roujin> no, but cows have 13:43:31 <Roujin> they're called bull. 13:45:06 <Roujin> and the word peter used is the UK equivalent to bull's feces in US language 13:45:40 <Roujin> as far as i remember 13:45:56 <peter1138> You are strange. 13:46:08 <peter1138> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bollocks 13:48:10 <Roujin> interesting 13:48:52 <Roujin> but it does have the meaning "poor quality" or "useless" 13:49:50 <Roujin> which would be, more colloquial, "bullshit" 13:49:55 <Roujin> as i told 13:50:30 <peter1138> Well it doesn't refer literally to cow manure 13:51:30 <Roujin> it doesn't. literally. 13:51:56 <peter1138> Also it's spelled "faeces"... 13:52:58 <Roujin> oh, it's faeches in british english.. again something new i learned 13:53:08 <Roujin> that will surely come in handy some time... 13:53:20 *** DJ-Nekkid [~DJNekkid@gprs-ggsn6-nat.mobil.telenor.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:54:12 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB5BCA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 13:54:16 <Roujin> interesting that british will rather mention testicles in a situation where americans would mention f(a)eces of a male cow. 13:55:12 <Roujin> well, enough talking about that... who's hungry now? xD 13:56:35 <Gonozal_VIII> i just finished eating 13:56:38 <Gonozal_VIII> :P 13:57:25 *** dragonhorseboy [~dragonhor@modemcable147.26-58-74.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #openttd 13:57:26 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm72.epsilon125.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #openttd 13:57:56 <dragonhorseboy> just wondering but whats with openttd being split into two 9x and nt downloads? 13:58:16 <HMage> dragon or horse boy: that's because windows 9x doesn't support unicode 13:58:43 <dragonhorseboy> hmage..no? strange I have unicode installed 13:58:54 <HMage> windows 9x doesn't support unicode natively 13:58:56 <glx> well vecause it doesn't nativelly 13:59:13 <HMage> that's why a separate download 13:59:38 <HMage> different binaries for those os'es that know about unicode and for those that just heard of it :P 14:00:00 <peter1138> So there you have it. 14:00:04 <glx> and even with unicows.dll, some things don't work well 14:00:22 <dragonhorseboy> hmage...so does the nt version look for specific os version or its just dumb? 14:00:36 <HMage> dragonhorseboy: it calls for functions that don't exist on 9x 14:00:53 <glx> and it checks os version on start 14:01:49 <dragonhorseboy> glx..meh so there's no way to have one download (to r-only boot disc) for both oses? 14:02:06 <dragonhorseboy> <already has good unicode (its other softwares I got here too) 14:02:14 <Gonozal_VIII> stop using ancient windows? 14:02:28 <HMage> windows 98 isn't supported for a long time officially by microsoft 14:02:36 <dragonhorseboy> gonozal..tell me where I can even find 2K/SP4 for sub- and I'll consider that 14:02:40 <dragonhorseboy> but till then...there..enough said ;) 14:02:46 <glx> we could use dynamic loading for unicows.dll and use pointers to functions, but that's a lot of work, for a little benefit 14:02:50 <HMage> dragonhorseboy: move to linux for example :) 14:02:57 <HMage> it's free 14:03:12 <Gonozal_VIII> fckgwrhqq2yxrkt8tg6w2b7q8 ;-) 14:03:35 <HMage> on the other side... 14:03:42 <dragonhorseboy> hmage..not going work with directx8.1/glide1.3 games and many dll-needy desktop softwares? ^_^ 14:03:44 * HMage uses pirated version of linux :D 14:04:04 * Gonozal_VIII uses pirated version of xp 14:04:13 <HMage> I bet you'll find an alternative to your software in linux 14:04:35 <dragonhorseboy> hmage..don't think so (especially gui-wise...I've already tried gimp short time and its just too difficult already) 14:04:50 <Gonozal_VIII> gimp rocks 14:05:06 <HMage> find anything that's sub 40$ and more sueful than gimp 14:05:09 <HMage> useful* 14:05:25 <HMage> but sueful is nice too 14:05:30 <dragonhorseboy> well for someone who already recalls most keystrokes in photohop6 (and the fact its on two different oses too) ... gimp just fail too hard 14:07:04 <glx> you can define all shortcuts in gimp 14:07:37 <dragonhorseboy> glx...well I never coudl figure that out tho (and gimp doesn't even run on my second main system at all so a bit moot to have to try learn two different ones) 14:07:51 <dragonhorseboy> to our own allright? 14:08:36 <Gonozal_VIII> again... stop using 9x, that's like watching black and white tv 14:08:50 <dragonhorseboy> gonozal...not true 14:08:53 <dragonhorseboy> you probably mean 3.1 14:08:54 <dragonhorseboy> :p 14:09:35 <Gonozal_VIII> 98 was 10 years ago, 10 year old os is way outdated 14:10:03 <dragonhorseboy> gonozal...so tell me why early 90's cars still get used daily? about same point there - why bother upgrading just because of version numbers? 14:10:27 <keyweed_> cars are generally better engineerd then microsoft products. 14:10:27 <dragonhorseboy> (not trying to cause an arguement anyhow heh) 14:10:51 <Gonozal_VIII> software has a much shorter life circle than cars 14:10:56 <dragonhorseboy> keyweed..well for the footnote I've ran with not one single reinstall/repair for several years ... and its still going ^_^ (even with 3 gpu card switches) 14:10:58 <ln-_> dragonhorseboy: cars of the 90's are still compatible with most roads. 14:11:32 <dragonhorseboy> don't think the software/game list have changed much aside to keeping up with browsers and other things like that 14:11:34 <keyweed_> dragonhorseboy: there are sopwith camels that still fly, doesn't say much over their flying abillities 14:12:13 <dragonhorseboy> hm just thought of something else.... 14:13:21 <dragonhorseboy> this is only a random thought but couldn't there be a "fat" openttd that'll look for certain files to run in unicode mode or not? (kinda a loose reimisch of the fat 68k/ppc softwares) 14:13:30 <dragonhorseboy> no harm in silly thoughts :p 14:13:31 *** Brianetta [~brian@77-103-231-158.cable.ubr05.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:14:03 <keyweed_> wrong. silly thoughts can be very harmfull 14:14:11 <keyweed_> see: SCO 14:14:33 *** Tino|R152 [~tino@52N.UNI-MUENSTER.DE] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 14:15:08 <dragonhorseboy> hm...either way just for now...is the only difference in 9x/nt downloads being the openttd.exe file itself or is there more in the folder? 14:16:25 *** |Bastiaan| [~Bastiaan@77.60.199.139] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:19:35 <dragonhorseboy> (like eg having one openttd folder with an openttd.exe and openttd2.exe both sharing same grfs/etc on the disc - thats what I meant above) 14:20:10 <Gonozal_VIII> then do so 14:20:33 <dragonhorseboy> so its just only openttd.exe itself that differs, nothing else in folder already - correct? 14:21:03 <CIA-5> OpenTTD: smatz * r12110 /branches/noai/src/squirrel_std.cpp: [NoAI] -Fix [FS#1746]: possible segmentation fault when trying to load another script file 14:21:06 <Gonozal_VIII> if it's the same version it should be 14:21:22 <dragonhorseboy> heh thanks a lot anyhow 14:21:23 <Gonozal_VIII> with different version grfs could be different 14:21:48 <Gonozal_VIII> lang files obviously 14:22:19 <dragonhorseboy> hm...can't remember how long ago its been ever since I looked at the public server heh 14:22:44 <dragonhorseboy> still kinda remember that one where I helped a bit from the start .. made one or two coal lines :p 14:22:49 <Gonozal_VIII> what public server? 14:22:59 <Gonozal_VIII> there are hundreds 14:23:53 <dragonhorseboy> the coop one...its the only one with that name in the server list as far as I recalled (everyone else just used usernames) 14:24:29 <Gonozal_VIII> openttdcoop is also just a name 14:26:30 <dragonhorseboy> either way how often do you play openttd gonozal? 14:27:10 <Gonozal_VIII> more programming now than playing.. 14:27:33 <dragonhorseboy> ah ^_^ 14:27:58 <Gonozal_VIII> messing with the code is fun^^ 14:28:54 <dragonhorseboy> :p 14:29:50 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@dhcp-077-249-197-241.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 14:31:22 * dragonhorseboy will just leave major coding to someone else and just *play* myself :p 14:31:24 <dragonhorseboy> hehe 14:34:01 *** DJ-Nekkid [~DJNekkid@static128-249.adsl.no] has joined #openttd 14:37:52 *** fjb [~frank@p5485E8FC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:37:57 <fjb> Hello 14:37:59 <dragonhorseboy> hey 14:44:58 <dragonhorseboy> how're you fjb? 14:45:22 <Gonozal_VIII> hi fjb 14:45:25 <fjb> I'm fine, thanks. 14:46:16 <dragonhorseboy> doing okay here as well - just trying to find certain grfs somewhere and not much luck yet ;) 14:47:04 <fjb> What are you looking for? 14:49:37 <glx> get ottd_coop pack 14:50:39 <dragonhorseboy> heh well doesn't really matter much but anyhow: custom road stations, any new ground tiles, transmitter replacement (I knew there was one), and maybe s-bahn cars [rail] 14:51:21 <Roujin> custom road stations, any new ground tiles -> OpenGFX replacement pack 14:51:46 <fjb> Most of it should be here: http://grfcrawler.tt-forums.net/index.php? 14:51:58 <fjb> TTRS has new road stations. 14:52:28 <peter1138> TTRS' depots and road stations are *UGLY* 14:52:38 <dragonhorseboy> fjb..you know if its ttrs2 or ttrs3? 14:53:07 *** Christoph [~lekro@s01060014513484ae.ss.shawcable.net] has joined #openttd 14:53:49 *** helb [~helb@62.240.176.23] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 14:54:18 <fjb> They are in TTRS3. And some don't like them... 14:54:23 *** helb [~helb@62.240.176.23] has joined #openttd 14:55:36 <dragonhorseboy> ttrs3 hm...only having ttrs2 (as trying 3 just gave strange errors) .. but I guess its nothing big because most of the times I'm just using the thru halts except in case of small towns with no loops of their own yet 14:56:00 <dragonhorseboy> got to love the thru halts .. makes it easier to stuff more traffic through them :p 14:56:47 <peter1138> they're not so ugly in ttrs3 either 14:58:32 <dragonhorseboy> hm just a dumb question re seeing one blog post on the openttdcoop site....so current openttd can run custom industries now? 15:00:33 <Gonozal_VIII> yes but you don't want current openttd, 0.1.0 works too, why upgrade 15:00:45 <fjb> Yes, it is the nightly builds and in 0.6-beta. 15:01:05 <dragonhorseboy> fjb...I was always wondering when that day would finally come at all heh 15:01:21 <dragonhorseboy> so I guess the next question possible still left would be when will full pbs be back? :p 15:01:25 <fjb> That day was last autumn... 15:01:44 <fjb> Full pbs is back with a patch. 15:01:56 <dragonhorseboy> fjb..heh..well you get the point tho...I never played openttd much offline because the basic industries just got a bit boring at times 15:02:28 <fjb> PBS: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=36107 15:03:47 <dragonhorseboy> new industries + pbs = my favorite style of network in ttdp and now seem openttd could do it too finally *rolls eyes* 15:03:50 <fjb> dihedral usually runs his servers with custom industries. 15:04:06 <dragonhorseboy> dihedral? is that a listed server? *goes look* 15:04:56 <fjb> The OpenTTD project started after TTDP. And the whole game had to be implemented. That takes time. 15:05:28 <fjb> dragonhorseboy: Yes, look for fairplay and dihedral in the list. 15:07:01 <fjb> http://openttd.dihedral.de/ 15:07:27 *** simo [~simo@a88-114-171-140.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 15:07:57 *** mikl [~mikl@0x5733cec6.boanxx22.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 15:10:12 <dragonhorseboy> hmm all three fairplay servers are listed as no grfs but I did notice peter has a server with pikka's industry grf 15:10:30 <dragonhorseboy> looking at site above now 15:11:01 <simo> what's the idea behind those fair play servers 15:11:01 <peter1138> Yeah, mine is patched with pbs 15:13:01 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm72.epsilon125.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [] 15:13:16 *** Roujin is now known as Roujin|away 15:13:20 <dragonhorseboy> I've always kinda liked pbs especially for I frequently have double mainlines ending into a stubend 2-platform station 15:13:38 <fjb> Single track lines are working for the first time as expected with the new PBS. 15:13:40 <dragonhorseboy> (no need to have any fancy signals..just a dumb X junction 15:14:23 <Eddi|zuHause3> single track lines and twoway stations are THE advantages of PBS 15:14:53 <peter1138> tidier junctions... 15:14:53 <hylje> dragonhorseboy: terminal 15:15:02 <hylje> peter1138: tidier switching 15:15:11 <dragonhorseboy> eddi...well for me..train1 on downlineenters platform1 while train2 exits platform2 to upline at same times 15:15:13 <peter1138> points :o 15:15:21 <fjb> In my actual game I'm in 1953 and still having single track lines only. 15:15:36 <dragonhorseboy> admittly I do still use advanced station junctions sometimes when I need 3+ platforms to two lines 15:16:15 <dragonhorseboy> hmm damn I forgot what they called the kind of junctions I used now.... 15:16:21 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F54893.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:16:25 <dragonhorseboy> is there a list of common junctions somewhere? 15:17:01 <fjb> http://wiki.openttd.org/index.php/Junctions 15:23:16 *** dragonhorseboy [~dragonhor@modemcable147.26-58-74.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [Quit: Bye for now!] 15:25:40 *** dragonhorseboy [~dragonhor@74.58.26.147] has joined #openttd 15:25:48 <dragonhorseboy> *pokes silly irc* 15:25:51 <dragonhorseboy> meh 15:26:48 * hylje makes dragonhorseboy silly 15:27:38 * dragonhorseboy pokes hylje for no reason 15:27:38 <dragonhorseboy> :p 15:27:55 * hylje counterattacks with double power 15:28:18 *** NukeBuster [~wouter@a62-251-21-79.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 15:28:24 <dragonhorseboy> so anyway... 15:28:38 *** Purno [~Purno@5357D37C.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 15:28:44 <dragonhorseboy> I'm not sure if its just not common or why is there no screenshot for hmm...ugh how do I explain it... 15:29:17 <Eddi|zuHause3> my junctions did not change much with PBS 15:29:46 *** Brianetta [~brian@77-103-231-158.cable.ubr05.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 15:30:19 <fjb> dragonhorseboy: Make a screenshot. 15:30:23 <Eddi|zuHause3> www.informatik.uni-halle.de/~krause/Ravenswald%20Transport,%209.%20Mai%201977.png 15:31:22 <peter1138> Eddi|zuHause3, that... looks strange 15:31:32 <hylje> silly 15:31:40 <Eddi|zuHause3> due to PBS, i need only 4 instead of 6 platforms for the mainline tracks 15:31:42 <peter1138> You have pre-signal exit PBS signals...? 15:31:48 <peter1138> How did you manage that... 15:32:01 <Eddi|zuHause3> this is pre-PBS 15:32:18 <peter1138> Oh :p 15:32:53 <hylje> contary to how it looks 15:32:59 <hylje> Eddi|zuHause3! show the after pic too! 15:33:42 <Eddi|zuHause3> yes, my line is not that fast ;) 15:35:07 <Eddi|zuHause3> www.informatik.uni-halle.de/~krause/Ravenswald%20Transport,%2030.%20Jun%201981.png 15:35:38 <Eddi|zuHause3> like i said, track didn't change much 15:36:20 <peter1138> http://fuzzle.org/o/yapp.png < my boring shot 15:36:32 <peter1138> I would've done it like that without pbs though ;) 15:36:42 <hylje> peter1138: GRIM and DARK 15:36:52 <peter1138> Isn't it! 15:36:57 <hylje> not to mention brown 15:37:24 <hylje> you're well into making ottd fit for the modern gaming 15:37:50 <peter1138> http://fuzzle.org/o/cargo4.png < heh, yellow ;o 15:39:48 <peter1138> Whoops, Sacro is now down to 14 trains 15:40:02 <Eddi|zuHause3> www.informatik.uni-halle.de/~krause/Ravenswald%20Transport,%201.%20Jul%201981.png <- i have more PBS stations 15:40:39 <Eddi|zuHause3> compare www.informatik.uni-halle.de/~krause/Ravenswald%20Transport,%2029.%20Dez%201955.png 15:40:51 <dragonhorseboy> took a while but here's my best quick ascii attempt for now: http://pastebin.ca/899957 15:40:56 <dragonhorseboy> *looks at above link* 15:40:58 *** Noldo [vheino@jumi.lut.fi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:41:21 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B83E15.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:41:49 *** Roujin|away is now known as Roujin 15:42:24 *** raimar2 [~hawk@p5489B8AE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:42:29 <dragonhorseboy> heh peter interesting one you have 15:42:55 *** dih [~dihedral@dslb-088-066-147-165.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 15:42:57 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B80564.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 15:43:00 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 15:43:37 <dragonhorseboy> peter1138 just asking but you have any site for your ukrs+yapp server or just the openttd server page? 15:43:45 <Eddi|zuHause3> www.informatik.uni-halle.de/~krause/Ravenswald%20Transport,%201.%20Jul%201981#1.png <- and the one that never worked correctly with presignals 15:44:29 <Eddi|zuHause3> (www.informatik.uni-halle.de/~krause/Ravenswald%20Transport,%2024.%20Dez%201939.png) 15:45:42 <Eddi|zuHause3> www.informatik.uni-halle.de/~krause/Ravenswald%20Transport,%2023.%20Jan%201952.png <- i can't rebuild that one because of the waypoints 15:48:04 <dragonhorseboy> dumb question - is there still a irc log of these tycoonz/openttd channels somewhere? 15:49:20 *** UFO64 [UFO64@john-michael-murray.um.maine.edu] has joined #openttd 15:49:38 *** McHawk [~hawk@p5489BB68.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:49:49 <SpComb> Logs: http://zapotek.paivola.fi/~terom/logs/openttd 15:49:49 <glx> !logs 15:50:06 <dragonhorseboy> ah ty 15:51:14 <dragonhorseboy> anyone in here build individual lines/networks too? or is everyone else just like into single mass network all the times? 15:51:15 <dragonhorseboy> :"> 15:51:28 <peter1138> no site 15:52:02 <dragonhorseboy> thanks anyhow peter1138 is it like a 24/7 server anyhow? 15:52:09 <peter1138> errr 15:52:23 <peter1138> I suppose it is 'like' a 24/7 server... 15:52:45 <dragonhorseboy> heh hmm well maybe another day I'll have to try it ;) 15:52:47 <peter1138> Eddi|zuHause3, waypoints stop you rebuiling? 15:52:48 <peter1138> +d 15:53:29 <Eddi|zuHause3> at least the version i have does not reserve beyond waypoints 15:53:37 <peter1138> oh... yeah, tyhat 15:53:50 <peter1138> do they need to be there? 15:54:03 <peter1138> you could put them further out with normal signals before 15:54:07 <Eddi|zuHause3> yeah, to sort the trains on the correct platform 15:54:13 <peter1138> or a pbs signal directly after 15:54:18 <peter1138> nasty though 15:54:26 <peter1138> i'm guessing that'll be fixed for the next version 15:54:27 <Eddi|zuHause3> well, yes, but that needs bigger rebuild than just signal replacement 15:55:49 <dragonhorseboy> this is one of the reason I do individual lines frequently...little cross-traffics ^_^ 15:55:54 <dragonhorseboy> to our own ways I guess 15:57:13 *** UFO64-2 [UFO64@john-michael-murray.um.maine.edu] has joined #openttd 15:57:13 *** UFO64 [UFO64@john-michael-murray.um.maine.edu] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:57:22 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F54893.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 15:57:31 *** UFO64-2 [UFO64@john-michael-murray.um.maine.edu] has quit [] 15:58:26 <Eddi|zuHause3> individual lines are boring... 15:59:32 <dragonhorseboy> eddi...bah they're not :p 16:02:35 <dragonhorseboy> fjb you still there? 16:02:57 <fjb> Yes 16:03:10 <dragonhorseboy> just curious if you saw the ascii pastebin I tried draw before? 16:04:34 <fjb> Yes, I saw it. 16:04:56 <dragonhorseboy> heh ok just had to check ^_^ 16:05:48 *** Nicko[work] is now known as Nicko[work][afk] 16:06:20 <fjb> Kind of work around missing PBS. 16:06:40 <Eddi|zuHause3> for terminal stations, i think it's not worth it... 16:06:42 <dragonhorseboy> well when its only 2 or 1 platform I just let pbs take its work since a bit lazy :p 16:07:04 <Eddi|zuHause3> they work sufficiently well with normal signals 16:07:14 <dragonhorseboy> eddi...not really 16:07:20 <fjb> Eddi|zuHause3: Depends on the size of the terminal station... 16:07:20 <Eddi|zuHause3> plus, most of the time the PBS paths are blocked anyway 16:07:41 <dragonhorseboy> if one train tries enter a diagonal length while another one exits..they'll face each others... hence why need presignalling there 16:07:43 <Eddi|zuHause3> i mean if it's just one double track line reaching there 16:08:07 <Eddi|zuHause3> presignalling, sure, but not PBS 16:08:19 *** Roujin [~Roujin@p54973075.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-] 16:08:34 <Eddi|zuHause3> the gain in efficiency is marginal 16:09:03 <dragonhorseboy> yeah? eddi..well if I didn't have pbs a lot of trains would be standing at red just because the simple crossover junction is blocked only on one side 16:09:08 <dragonhorseboy> ^_^ 16:09:12 *** yorick [~yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 16:09:59 <yorick> I don't mind it at all, Gonozal_VIII :) 16:10:29 *** Roujin [~Roujin@p54973075.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 16:10:32 <Eddi|zuHause3> yes, but at most every second entering/exiting will not block the full crossing 16:11:17 <dragonhorseboy> eddi...exactly and thats where pbs is nice so one train entering straight can still let other train exit straight in the same block 16:12:29 <dragonhorseboy> reminds me I dunno why many people still try add depots right next to station junctions .. not the best place all the times heh 16:12:55 <dragonhorseboy> always see a jam where one train tries leave depot and finds all platforms full = gridlock 16:12:58 <Eddi|zuHause3> i don't use depots for servicing 16:13:01 <simo> do you play on the public servere? 16:13:04 *** yorick [~yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [] 16:13:13 *** Yorick [~Yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 16:13:18 <Eddi|zuHause3> dragonhorseboy: depots behave as presignal now 16:13:21 <dragonhorseboy> me I usually just place the depot somewhere in middle of the line 16:13:32 *** Yorick [~Yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [] 16:13:41 <dragonhorseboy> (works better that way anyhow...one depot for entire line rather than two endpoint depots) 16:13:59 *** yorick [~yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 16:15:32 <dragonhorseboy> hmm which of that reminds me 16:15:50 <dragonhorseboy> any of you use that station layout where the platform is located sandwiched between both mainlines? 16:16:06 *** divo [~asd@0x4dd443c6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Quit: Quitting] 16:16:14 <Eddi|zuHause3> what do you mean? 16:18:28 *** Neverhood [~Neverhood@123.116.102.233] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:22:58 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has joined #openttd 16:23:32 <dragonhorseboy> one moment.. ascii coming up again ^_^ 16:24:02 <yorick> :O 16:24:09 <hylje> Eddi|zuHause3: 2 rails, station is two platformed rails in the middle, one rail extra on each end 16:24:39 <hylje> s/end/side/ 16:25:57 <dragonhorseboy> http://pastebin.ca/900003 16:27:32 <dragonhorseboy> on a footnote I remember that the latter stations were often only 2-3 tiles long because well duh most of the times the only thing that stopped was a single railcar + mail car with occassional coach or two 16:28:13 <dragonhorseboy> but yeah when it became like eg diesellok+8 cars I do replace it with a nice real city station by then :"> 16:30:03 <dragonhorseboy> and just in case, I'll just say this: to our own ;) 16:31:29 <hylje> :> 16:32:07 <dragonhorseboy> hylje...it seem easy to just stuff the station between lines for light traffic - no need to do any bridges/tunnels to access both directions you know :) 16:32:26 <hylje> you could, like, have the platfrms on the sides 16:35:17 <dragonhorseboy> heh well thats another thing...my doubletrack are never next to each others most of the times :"> 16:35:57 <dragonhorseboy> thats the thing with building single line through heavier terrains then adding the second line 'wherever it can go' rather than trying to lay parallel to the original one especially if there's lot of diagonal mountains 16:36:29 <dragonhorseboy> sometimes I even have one line crossing others ... don't look at me..just drive the trains already! *whistles* 16:36:34 <dragonhorseboy> hehe 16:36:56 <dragonhorseboy> hm yeah I should mention I rarely use flat terrians at all myself...usually 'hilly' 16:41:02 <dragonhorseboy> hylje just asking but what kind of terrain/water do you like most of the times? 16:41:23 <hylje> islands 16:41:28 <hylje> hilly 16:41:30 <hylje> or mountainous 16:41:37 <dragonhorseboy> heh into boats/planes I presume? 16:41:45 <hylje> no, just small confined markets 16:41:49 <dragonhorseboy> ah ok 16:42:22 <dragonhorseboy> me I just like all four modes (heh its fun with the russia planeset tho...flying large coal/whatever load, meh :p ) 16:42:46 <dragonhorseboy> usually hilly with little/moderate water myself btw 16:42:56 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i577B71A5.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:43:10 <hylje> in soviet russia cargo moves YOU!! 16:43:58 <dragonhorseboy> hylje heh have you ever tried george's russia planeset yet? 16:44:09 <hylje> i'm not too into newgrf 16:44:13 * fjb doesn't what to know what people are moved by in Russia. 16:44:24 <dragonhorseboy> hylje...ah ok 16:44:29 <dragonhorseboy> fjb heh ^_^ 16:44:32 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i577B71A5.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 16:47:56 <dragonhorseboy> hm brb (to ponder which station grfs to keep :p ) 16:50:38 *** divo [~asd@0x4dd443c6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 16:59:04 *** Roujin [~Roujin@p54973075.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Chicks dig it] 17:00:33 *** Brianetta [~brian@77-103-231-158.cable.ubr05.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 17:00:36 <dragonhorseboy> back 17:06:19 <dragonhorseboy> quiet isn't it? 17:07:09 <yorick> it is 17:07:28 <Gonozal_VIII> hi yorick 17:07:37 <yorick> hi 17:07:42 <yorick> :O 17:08:11 * keyweed_ enjoys the silence 17:08:17 <Gonozal_VIII> your patch is in 17:08:28 <yorick> I know ^^ 17:09:22 <Gonozal_VIII> did you see the modifications i made? 17:09:25 <yorick> <yorick> I don't mind it at all, Gonozal_VIII :) 17:09:27 <yorick> yes 17:09:33 <yorick> at openttd.cpp 17:09:46 <Forked> urgh 17:09:48 <yorick> I'm not really familiar with that kind of things 17:10:14 <Belugas> anyone with a compiler who would test this humble patch, see iF does compile and has not missed any conversion? http://devs.openttd.org/~belugas/patches/BridSpec-ification.diff 17:10:17 <Belugas> wold be appreciated 17:11:20 *** frosch123 [~mtce@newton.math.tu-clausthal.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:11:58 <yorick> what does it do? 17:12:41 <hylje> messes with bridges 17:13:11 <Gonozal_VIII> does nothing... 17:13:17 <yorick> it replaces Bridge with BridgeSpec 17:13:30 <Gonozal_VIII> yes... just the name 17:13:31 <yorick> are you really thinking it would not be compiling? 17:13:45 <SmatZ> I compiled it for Belugas 17:13:56 <SmatZ> it doesn't compile 17:14:05 <hylje> confusing 17:14:06 <Gonozal_VIII> why would it not compile? it's just a varname changed 17:14:07 <yorick> I'm compiling 17:14:19 <yorick> Gonozal_VIII: maybe preparations are made before 17:14:40 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d51A473D5.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 17:17:03 <Gonozal_VIII> newgrf.cpp line 1180 17:17:29 <Belugas> may have forgotten some... that is why 17:17:35 <Belugas> like that one :) 17:17:58 <yorick> it isn't very hard to make a search&replace script... 17:18:02 <Gonozal_VIII> i did a search for "Bridge " 17:18:19 <Gonozal_VIII> case sensitive and with the space 17:18:40 <Belugas> yorick, sorry, but my envirronement at work (where i am right now) does not allow me to do any C/C++ stuff 17:18:48 <Belugas> at home, another story 17:18:52 <Belugas> but i'm not at home 17:18:53 <Belugas> sadly 17:19:06 <Gonozal_VIII> windows search function^^ 17:19:06 <yorick> you're devving at work... 17:20:06 <Gonozal_VIII> tunnelbridge_cmd.cpp line 1145 17:21:40 <Gonozal_VIII> that should be all 17:22:07 <peter1138> dragonhorseboy, "to our own" <-- it's "to each our own" 17:24:02 <Belugas> i'm devving at work indeed, not the only one who does that, either ;) and windows does not give you line, as grep does :P 17:24:07 <Gonozal_VIII> stupid sh crashing several times before it works 17:24:49 <Gonozal_VIII> windows doesn't give the line directly but you can open the file and do ctrl+f ;-) 17:25:32 * yorick has sh on windows ^^ 17:25:47 <yorick> comes with MSYS 17:25:51 <Gonozal_VIII> well, me too 17:26:00 <Gonozal_VIII> and it crashes and crashes and crashes 17:26:14 <yorick> try rxvt or using msys.bat 17:27:20 <dragonhorseboy> peter...heh ok ;) 17:27:28 <Gonozal_VIII> no rule to make target bla/rev.cpp, needed by rev.d wtf? 17:28:35 <Gonozal_VIII> ah, it's the vlc player 17:28:38 <yorick> ..... :D 17:28:47 <Gonozal_VIII> sh doesn't work with vlc open 17:29:13 <glx> it does for me 17:29:22 <yorick> it does @here 17:29:37 <Gonozal_VIII> well, it doesn't here 17:29:57 <glx> what's the version of vlc? 17:29:57 *** peter1138 [~petern@petern.bnsnet.co.uk] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 17:30:37 <Gonozal_VIII> no idea? 17:31:17 <Gonozal_VIII> 0,8.6d 17:31:21 <Gonozal_VIII> . 17:32:08 <dragonhorseboy> brb to start some lunch for myself 17:36:31 <CIA-5> OpenTTD: belugas * r12111 /trunk/src/ (5 files in 2 dirs): -Codechange: Rename Bridge to BridgeSpec, out of consistensy with other Specs in used. 17:39:34 <dragonhorseboy> back for a moment ;) 17:40:50 <dragonhorseboy> just a slight silly question but I presume some of these simplier opengfx files probably could still work in win/ttdp as well? (like eg the chimera replacement and so) 17:41:51 <DaleStan> If they use NFO they work. If they rely on tarchives, they don't. 17:43:51 <dragonhorseboy> ok thanks dalestan ;) 17:44:05 <dragonhorseboy> also I guess certain things like the newairport airports etc are out of luck yet too ^_^ 17:45:08 <hylje> hmm i managed to crash trains on depot 17:45:09 <hylje> pbs 17:49:06 *** Zavior [~zavior@d195-237-7-167.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:50:05 *** Zavior [~zavior@d195-237-7-167.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 17:51:09 *** sagsgsagd [~Gonozal_V@M3370P002.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 17:51:09 *** Gonozal_VIII is now known as Guest1160 17:51:09 *** sagsgsagd is now known as Gonozal_VIII 17:51:14 *** Zaviori [~zavior@d195-237-7-167.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 17:51:20 <Gonozal_VIII> STR_NULL 17:51:25 <Gonozal_VIII> STR_EMPTY 17:51:27 <Gonozal_VIII> ? 17:51:33 <Gonozal_VIII> why? 17:51:43 <glx> STR_NULL is never drawn, STR_EMPTY is 17:52:06 <Gonozal_VIII> ah... 17:52:15 <Gonozal_VIII> how do you draw emptyness? 17:52:25 <ln-_> 17:52:28 <Forked> 17:52:49 <Forked> enclose it in something so everywhere there is something.. except there? ;\ .. sorry I'll go away again 17:53:01 <Gonozal_VIII> ^^ 17:54:57 *** Guest1160 [~Gonozal_V@N723P007.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:58:37 *** Greysc[a]le is now known as Greyscale 18:00:10 <dragonhorseboy> hm damn so many opengfx grfs I like..... :p 18:00:55 <dragonhorseboy> me like the new rv stations too heh 18:09:25 <CIA-5> OpenTTD: glx * r12112 /branches/noai/src/ai/ai_squirrel.cpp: [NoAI] -Fix: prevent buffer overruns when creating full-length script-name 18:15:07 <Gonozal_VIII> night 18:15:40 *** peter1138 [~petern@217.151.109.242] has joined #openttd 18:15:41 *** mode/#openttd [+o peter1138] by ChanServ 18:16:12 <dragonhorseboy> me going for now so bye ;) 18:16:15 <dragonhorseboy> and bye peter ^_^ 18:16:26 *** dragonhorseboy [~dragonhor@74.58.26.147] has left #openttd [] 18:18:31 *** welterde [welterde@gandalf.srv.welterde.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:18:57 *** LordAzamath [~chatzilla@ip208.cab23.ltln.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 18:19:03 <LordAzamath> hilaou 18:19:22 <CIA-5> OpenTTD: glx * r12113 /branches/noai/src/squirrel_std.cpp: [NoAI] -Fix: memory leak in require() 18:20:00 *** Brianetta [~brian@77-103-231-158.cable.ubr05.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 18:23:08 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@M3370P002.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:23:09 *** welterde [welterde@gandalf.srv.welterde.de] has joined #openttd 18:23:57 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d51A473D5.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 18:27:44 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d51A473D5.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 18:27:55 *** simo [~simo@a88-114-171-140.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Quit: leaving] 18:30:06 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x50a46c2b.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 18:30:09 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 18:30:55 *** welterde [welterde@gandalf.srv.welterde.de] has quit [Quit: bÀÀh!] 18:33:57 *** alexboom [~chatzilla@eab95-1-89-87-55-215.dsl.club-internet.fr] has joined #openttd 18:34:15 *** LordAzamath [~chatzilla@ip208.cab23.ltln.starman.ee] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.80 [Firefox 2.0.0.12/2008020121]] 18:35:15 *** Maedhros [~jc@host86-136-161-204.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 18:35:27 <alexboom> hi 18:35:48 <Bjarni> hi 18:36:01 <Bjarni> are you by any chance AlexFili or related to him? 18:36:12 <glx> don't think so :) 18:37:32 <Bjarni> maybe we should just let him answer the question himself ;) 18:38:43 <Belugas> i don't think so either :) 18:38:46 <Belugas> and hello Bjarni 18:39:58 <Sacro> argh a Bjarni 18:40:00 <alexboom> no i'm not alexfili 18:40:13 <alexboom> who is he? 18:40:51 <Bjarni> somebody you wouldn't want to be :P 18:41:29 <Bjarni> he is the guy who installed SDL and couldn't get it to work and after two hours he started wondering if it mattered that he skipped the .h files because he didn't know where to put them 18:42:03 <Forked> learning through ones mistakes 18:42:08 <Bjarni> http://www.qdb.us/56571 18:42:28 <Bjarni> Forked: well... the problem is that he made nothing but mistakes like that for ages 18:42:44 <Bjarni> and he wanted us to answer why it didn't work 18:43:01 <alexboom> hey that's fun because i have a noob question 18:43:03 <Forked> ahh 18:43:09 <Bjarni> and we ended up telling him that he might not be the best guy to try to make a tricky port of OpenTTD 18:43:19 <Forked> hehe 18:43:24 <glx> and he wanted to port openttd for DS without any knowledge in coding :) 18:43:51 <alexboom> he may be young and impetuous 18:44:03 <Forked> at least I know I don't do coding.. I can compile though 18:44:14 <Bjarni> and very little understanding of resource usage so the limited amount of RAM wasn't present in his world 18:44:22 <alexboom> i saw a 14 years old kid one day who wanted... to develop a new OS, because he was enough of windows! 18:44:34 <Bjarni> fair enough 18:44:43 <Bjarni> the motivation were certainly present 18:45:25 * Forked impatiently waits for an email 18:45:38 <Bjarni> from a broken mail system? 18:45:43 <alexboom> so my ultimate noob question is: which newgrf is Amacheer using for this nice looking station? http://www.tt-forums.net/download/file.php?id=85562 18:45:51 <alexboom> Ameecher, sorry 18:45:57 <Maedhros> alexboom: newstations.grf 18:46:00 <Forked> I ..forked out (he he) 43 pounds (including shipping) for a preorder of X3: reunion special edition for linux... and hoping they put me in the beta so I can start playing it now :o 18:46:08 *** welterde [welterde@gandalf.srv.welterde.de] has joined #openttd 18:46:14 <alexboom> thanks Maedhros 18:46:51 <Bjarni> <alexboom> hey that's fun because i have a noob question <-- you were right... I give you that ;) 18:47:02 <alexboom> meeeh :p 18:47:25 <Bjarni> well identifying grf files based on screenshots can be tricky 18:47:25 <alexboom> i've been looking for this stations for ages, trying many newgrf, except the one with that obvious name 18:47:33 <Bjarni> and can trick all of us once in a while :s 18:49:59 <alexboom> whoa it looks lovely 18:50:41 <peter1138> Especially Ameecher's secret stations... 18:51:47 <alexboom> ??? 18:54:29 <Forked> probably the lock ness station .. only talked aobut and seen in screenshots.. but no sign of the actual grf.. 18:54:51 <Forked> I have no sense of humour and I apologize. 18:55:38 <alexboom> no it's cool, i like humour :) 18:55:48 * Maedhros coded a fair amount of the grf, but the rest is secret even from him ;) 18:56:01 <yorick> back 18:56:49 <Maedhros> unless Ameecher's managed to get hold of a different set of secret stations, anyway 18:58:02 <peter1138> The passenger one with end-ramps 18:58:06 <alexboom> ok i'm leaving, thanks for your help bye 18:58:07 *** alexboom [~chatzilla@eab95-1-89-87-55-215.dsl.club-internet.fr] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.80 [Firefox 2.0.0.12/2008020121]] 18:58:30 <yorick> when did tile.h split up? 18:58:54 *** Dark_Link^ [~glidegame@fw.dormnet.his.se] has joined #openttd 18:59:07 <Bjarni> check the log 18:59:14 <Bjarni> it can tell you everything 18:59:57 *** Tekky [~Tekky@p5493C208.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:00:18 <yorick> @openttd youngest 19:00:18 <DorpsGek> yorick: latest: r12113 19:00:32 <yorick> @calc 12113*3 19:00:32 <DorpsGek> yorick: 36339 19:00:42 <yorick> yes, that many lines are in the logs ;) 19:00:46 <yorick> at least 19:01:09 <Maedhros> true, but svn log tile_func.h will be much shorter... 19:02:42 *** Frostregen_ [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-118-181.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 19:03:09 <yorick> r1117, thanks 19:03:38 <yorick> @openttd commit r1117 19:03:38 <DorpsGek> yorick: Invalid arguments for _commit. 19:03:42 <yorick> @openttd commit 1117 19:03:42 <DorpsGek> yorick: Commit by tron :: r1117 /trunk (53 files) (2004-12-15 22:18:54 UTC) 19:03:43 <DorpsGek> yorick: Move map arrays and some related macros into their own files map.c and map.h 19:03:54 <yorick> loong time ago ;) 19:04:36 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host239-239-dynamic.17-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 19:06:32 *** ChrisCF [~chris@ffion.xpns.co.uk] has joined #openttd 19:06:53 <Wolf01> hello 19:07:05 <ChrisCF> evenin' 19:07:17 * Sacro is going to italy D: 19:07:27 <peter1138> 'lo 19:07:33 <ChrisCF> having some difficulty loading a scenario - file version is too old 19:07:35 <peter1138> Sacro, why? 19:07:40 <Sacro> peter1138: a holiday 19:07:41 <ChrisCF> (savegame was re-saved later, scenario was not) 19:07:57 <peter1138> Too old? 19:07:58 <ChrisCF> where is the savegame revision in the file? 19:08:14 <Wolf01> Sacro, where do you want to go? 19:08:15 <glx> in first 8 bytes 19:08:15 <peter1138> Should still be loadable... 19:08:22 *** Frostregen [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-117-218.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:08:27 <Sacro> Wolf01: doing Rome, Venice and Pisa 19:08:39 <yorick> ChrisCF: its compressed using zlib 19:08:44 <Wolf01> nice choose :) 19:08:52 *** Frostregen_ is now known as Frostregen 19:08:54 <Wolf01> i suggest Turin too 19:08:55 <Prof_Frink> :o ChrisCF! 19:09:02 <Sacro> Wolf01: its a week long coach trip 19:09:10 <Sacro> we don't get much say in the destiatoins 19:09:13 <glx> <yorick> ChrisCF: its compressed using zlib <-- still version is in first 8 bytes 19:09:16 <Sacro> but to be honest 19:09:16 <ChrisCF> Prof_Frink: You ain't seen me, right? :) 19:09:21 <Sacro> i'd rather do turin in a driving holiday 19:09:25 <Sacro> with minis etc 19:09:30 <orudge> ChrisCF is alive :o 19:09:32 <ChrisCF> first four are "OTTZ" (magic number I guess) 19:09:43 <yorick> and the next? 19:09:50 <yorick> 4 19:09:51 <Sacro> 3141? 19:10:09 <ChrisCF> next is 0x00 0x4f 0x00 0x00 19:10:16 <ChrisCF> so I guess that's rev 79 19:10:28 <glx> @calc 16 10 4f 19:10:28 <DorpsGek> glx: Error: invalid syntax (line 1) 19:10:44 <SmatZ> @base 16 10 4f 19:10:44 <DorpsGek> SmatZ: 79 19:10:46 <yorick> 79 should be loadable 19:10:59 <ChrisCF> third-party patches and all that ... 19:11:05 <peter1138> should be unless it's ... yeah, that 19:11:30 <yorick> only way is to update that patch 19:11:49 <ChrisCF> not looking to play just yet - just need to open it 19:12:00 <yorick> or see its source and make a few CONDNULL 19:12:05 <ChrisCF> rev number at least tells me how many times I need to re-save it :) 19:12:30 <yorick> what patch was it saved with? 19:12:54 <ChrisCF> ChrisIN - thankfully he's got a compatibility list (*somewhere* ...) 19:13:04 <yorick> :O 19:13:16 <yorick> there is no way in getting it back to trunk 19:13:33 <ChrisCF> 19:07 < ChrisCF> not looking to play just yet - just need to open it 19:13:35 <ChrisCF> :) 19:13:55 <Wolf01> nice to know that compile farm failed today :) 19:13:56 <yorick> Savegame Compatibility History (the second build is the last version loading savegames from the first build): 19:13:56 <yorick> r10341- up to r10351-ChrisIN; r10351- up to r10488-ChrisIN; r10488- up to r10580-ChrisIN; r10507- up to r10780-ChrisIN; r10580- up to r10982-ChrisIN; 19:13:56 <yorick> r10604- up to r11060-ChrisIN; r10931- up to r11174-ChrisIN; r11174- up to r11192-ChrisIN. 19:14:14 *** Sogard^ [~Sogard@ip24-251-253-63.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #openttd 19:14:20 <ChrisCF> digging through his changelog now ... 19:14:28 <yorick> what error? 19:15:07 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d51A473D5.access.telenet.be] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 19:16:00 <yorick> Belugas! 19:16:11 *** helb [~helb@62.240.176.23] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:16:43 <Belugas> i know... 19:17:01 <yorick> your patch broke a few things 19:17:08 *** helb [~helb@62.240.176.23] has joined #openttd 19:17:22 <yorick> /compile_farm/openttd/nightly/compile_dir/src/tunnelbridge_cmd.cpp: In function 'void GetTileDesc_TunnelBridge(TileIndex, TileDesc*)': 19:17:22 <yorick> /compile_farm/openttd/nightly/compile_dir/src/tunnelbridge_cmd.cpp:1145: error: expected initializer before '*' token 19:17:22 <yorick> /compile_farm/openttd/nightly/compile_dir/src/tunnelbridge_cmd.cpp:1146: error: 'brspc' was not declared in this scope 19:17:40 <Maedhros> yorick: it's already fixed 19:18:10 <Belugas> it is, by the way, not hard to fix :P 19:18:18 *** pm|away is now known as planetmaker 19:18:29 <yorick> ah... 19:20:27 <planetmaker> hi 19:20:42 <yorick> hi 19:27:03 <CIA-5> OpenTTD: peter1138 * r12114 /trunk/src/tunnelbridge_cmd.cpp: -Fix (r12111): missed one Bridge -> BridgeSpec 19:27:11 *** Sogard [~Sogard@ip24-251-253-63.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #openttd 19:28:45 *** [1]Sogard [~Sogard@ip24-251-253-63.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #openttd 19:29:26 <peter1138> Slow :o 19:29:58 *** [2]Sogard [~Sogard@ip24-251-253-63.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #openttd 19:30:12 <hylje> Sogard: clones necessary? 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HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-] 20:03:04 *** Dentist [~Dentist@81.23.57.68] has joined #openttd 20:03:26 *** XeryusTC was kicked from #openttd by DorpsGek [TrueBrain] 20:03:26 *** XeryusTC [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has joined #openttd 20:03:47 <Dentist> Hi all, i'm having problems setting up my server under debian. Its loading the game fine, and reading the config correctly, but it is ignoring the patches setting. The server is using 0.6.3-beta3 20:03:50 <Dentist> any ideas? 20:04:09 *** XeryusTC was kicked from #openttd by DorpsGek [You stink] 20:04:09 *** XeryusTC [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has joined #openttd 20:04:20 <Maedhros> Dentist: are you sure it's reading the *right* config? 20:04:42 <Dentist> yes, it is setting things such as the server name fine 20:05:14 *** ChrisCF [~chris@ffion.xpns.co.uk] has left #openttd ['night all] 20:05:30 <Maedhros> hmm. which patch settings is it ignoring, and is this a new game or a saved game / scenario? 20:06:11 <Dentist> its a scenario, and its ignoring things such as realistic train acceleration. are the patch settings hardcoded into the scenario? 20:06:27 <Maedhros> yeah, they are 20:06:41 <Dentist> okay, thanks, that explains it 20:06:48 <Maedhros> well, not hardcoded, but they're loaded with the savegame 20:06:56 <Maedhros> you should be able to change them with the console though 20:07:10 <Dentist> yeah thats what I meant by hardcoded 20:07:24 <Dentist> but the console ignores the patch settings, however, i'm going to edit them in the scenario editor, might that help? 20:08:17 <Maedhros> that'll work, yes 20:08:34 <Maedhros> but using `patch <name> <value>` after the game has loaded should work too 20:08:35 <Dentist> its not a problem to download the scen from my server and then change said patches and reupload 20:08:43 <Dentist> oh you have to prefix it with patch, ok thanks 20:09:28 <Maedhros> :) 20:21:18 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-153-24.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 20:21:55 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x50a46c2b.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:23:18 *** Roujin [~Roujin@p54973075.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 20:23:51 *** dragonhorseboy [~dragonhor@modemcable147.26-58-74.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #openttd 20:23:56 <dragonhorseboy> hey 20:24:14 <yorick> openttd using 40% after building 74 ships and ordering them using YAPF to go to the other side of the maps :) 20:24:53 <dih> diagonal, from bottem left to upper righte, and vice versa? or just straight up 20:25:39 <dragonhorseboy> yorick... 40% ? 20:25:52 <yorick> using a normal generated map, 512x512 20:26:06 <dih> yes - but striaght or diagnoally going ships 20:26:07 <yorick> dragonhorseboy: on a 1.6 ghz ;) 20:26:10 <yorick> both 20:26:13 <dih> k 20:26:34 <dih> you know that openttd can only use one core :-) 20:26:38 <yorick> yes 20:27:07 <dragonhorseboy> yorick...heh thats strange..needing a lot more than 100mhz just to send ships ^_^ 20:27:09 <Sacro> dih: openttd & ; openttd 20:27:13 <Sacro> there, using 2 cores 20:27:15 <yorick> means I've successfully updated the regional yapf pathfinder patch... 20:27:34 <dih> LOL 20:27:54 <dih> who sais that the second instance will deff get assigned to the second core? 20:28:57 <Sacro> dih: hmm... 20:29:00 <Sacro> its an err... 20:29:07 <Sacro> 25% chance i think 20:31:06 *** dih| [~dihedral@dslb-088-066-156-097.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 20:31:34 *** Greyscale is now known as Greysc[a]le 20:31:39 *** Greysc[a]le is now known as Greyscale 20:32:01 <nappe1> good evening... 20:32:36 <dragonhorseboy> hey nappel 20:32:40 <nappe1> anyone seen Gonozal_VII lately? 20:33:06 <dragonhorseboy> nappel..I did late morning but then that would be at least 4-5 hours ago ^_^ 20:33:13 <dragonhorseboy> just came on a few minutes ago now 20:33:14 <Roujin> define "lately" 20:33:40 <yorick> @seen Gonozal_VIII 20:33:40 <DorpsGek> yorick: Gonozal_VIII was last seen in #openttd 2 hours, 18 minutes, and 33 seconds ago: <Gonozal_VIII> night 20:33:55 <nappe1> Sacro, do I recal wrong, or was it you, who started day length patch? 20:34:06 <Sacro> nappe1: nope, it was me 20:34:06 <Roujin> he might be sleeping now since he got up 19:30 hours ago iirc 20:34:11 *** helb [~helb@62.240.176.23] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:34:33 <nappe1> ah... I thought that there's a bot to tell these things, but didn't know the syntax. :) thanks for that. 20:35:09 *** dih is now known as Guest1180 20:35:10 *** dih| is now known as dih 20:35:41 <nappe1> Sacro: I am about make one of the most wanted optional features to it.. income downscaling lineary to time multiplier. 20:35:50 <Sacro> heh, sweet 20:35:57 *** Guest1180 [~dihedral@dslb-088-066-155-209.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:36:59 <nappe1> oookay... head revision with latest dl patch compiles without errors, time to make some changes... 20:42:52 *** helb [~helb@62.240.176.23] has joined #openttd 20:46:36 *** Purno [~Purno@5357D37C.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Quit: Always remember you're unique, just like everyone else.] 20:46:40 <yorick> I have to go now 20:46:47 <yorick> cya 20:46:48 *** yorick [~yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- In tests, 0x09 out of 0x0A l33t h4x0rz prefer it :)] 20:52:22 *** schmidt2 [~funky@p508855C8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:52:32 <Dentist> is there a feature in 0.6.0b3 to oneclick signal a whole line? 20:52:54 <glx> ctrl-drag 20:52:57 <Dentist> thanks 20:58:29 <Roujin> In tests, 0x09 out of 0x0A l33t h4x0rz prefer it :) <-- heh that's a nice one 20:59:12 <Roujin> argh, what's the invalid string called? 21:00:14 <Roujin> not STR_INVALID? 21:01:55 <CIA-5> OpenTTD: glx * r12116 /trunk/ (3 files in 2 dirs): -Fix (r12083): little typos in source.list 21:04:13 <Roujin> ah what the heck, then i'm doing it properly instead :P 21:04:22 *** a1270 [~Cheese@24-117-88-79.cpe.cableone.net] has quit [Quit: The ending changes tone & is actually quite sad - but it involves a scene of necrophilia, so that's just another plus in my book.....] 21:06:49 *** a1270 [~Cheese@24-117-88-79.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #openttd 21:21:38 <ln-_> okay.... 4x02 revealed some new things, mostly questions, and increased the wtf-level by 30 per cent. 21:22:04 <Brianetta> http://www.linuxformat.co.uk/pdfs/download.php?PDF=LXF87.feat_tcl.pdf 21:22:08 <Brianetta> Learn about Tcl (: 21:30:15 <dragonhorseboy> dalestan you there? 21:30:35 <DaleStan> No. :p 21:30:57 <dragonhorseboy> either way if grfcodec is saying it can't find a *.nfo then that means the grf in question is one of these latter you mentioned before and I possible couldn't convert it without some work 21:30:58 <dragonhorseboy> right? 21:32:09 <Belugas> got to go home now 21:32:11 <Belugas> see you 21:32:16 <DaleStan> It means that the nfo isn't in ./sprites. You can tell grfcodec what directory to look in for the nfo after you specify the name of the GRF you're creating. 21:32:16 <dragonhorseboy> bye belugas 21:33:07 <dragonhorseboy> dalestan... the grf is in same place as grfcodec.exe itself (and grfcodec already knows where the sprites folder is...I already converted some other grfs before so I know its working fine) 21:33:54 <dragonhorseboy> the grf in question is http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=656065#p656065 if you had to ask ^_^ 21:34:48 <DaleStan> The location of the GRF doesn't matter when you're encoding. 21:34:59 <dragonhorseboy> oh hm ok 21:38:03 <dragonhorseboy> hm has to be something with these gfx grfs .. two of them are complaining about nfo's 21:38:22 <DaleStan> Did you decode before you tried to encode? 21:40:12 <dragonhorseboy> hm heh sorry thats a new one to me..now I see both pcx and nfo files for it 21:44:45 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:45:14 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has joined #openttd 21:46:37 <dragonhorseboy> hm think I'll just have to try it another day..still not quite going right 21:55:11 <dragonhorseboy> thanks still dalestan 22:01:07 <Wolf01> 'night 22:01:11 <dragonhorseboy> bye wolf01 22:01:15 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host239-239-dynamic.17-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 22:01:28 <nappe1> I have had too much time obiously, as I have studied the whole economy (cargo rates and how the cargo pakcet system works) from source code... Maybe next thing would be try to make my own economy... 22:02:36 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1EE7F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:02:49 <dragonhorseboy> nappel hehe does your own economy have a cargo class named "workers" that goes from city to most industries? :p 22:02:56 <dragonhorseboy> I always wondered about that sometimes 22:03:54 *** Zavior [~zavior@d195-237-7-167.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.1 :: www.regroup-esports.com )] 22:03:56 *** Zaviori [~zavior@d195-237-7-167.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:04:46 <nappe1> dragonhorseboy: no, but I do have some "groovy" ideas. :) 22:05:25 <nappe1> but before that I need to get this day lenght modification to work. :) 22:07:06 <dragonhorseboy> nappel ah heh good luck ;) 22:11:21 *** michi_cc [7c6945e59e@dude.icosahedron.de] has quit [Server closed connection] 22:11:21 *** helb [~helb@62.240.176.23] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:11:56 *** helb [~helb@62.240.176.23] has joined #openttd 22:12:23 *** michi_cc [~michi@dude.icosahedron.de] has joined #openttd 22:12:23 *** mode/#openttd [+v michi_cc] by ChanServ 22:12:46 <dragonhorseboy> nappel the problem is that if you try extend the day length .. the vehicles still run same alak "more profits in slower day than otherwise a normal day" issue 22:12:51 <dragonhorseboy> is that what it was right? 22:13:19 *** dih [~dihedral@dslb-088-066-156-097.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:13:42 <nappe1> well, if my patch works, cargo-rates are cut in half on 2x :) 22:14:00 <dragonhorseboy> yeah I can see where you're going now :) 22:14:47 <nappe1> looking good so far... (running test right now...) 22:14:49 <Eddi|zuHause3> <ln-_> okay.... 4x02 revealed some new things, mostly questions, and increased the wtf-level by 30 per cent. <- you are pretty damn late... 22:15:08 <Eddi|zuHause3> and there are only ever more questions 22:15:19 *** MarwolTuk|Lappy__ [~chatzilla@p549EFF59.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 22:15:21 *** MarwolTuk|Lappy__ is now known as MarwolTuk|Lappy 22:15:25 <Eddi|zuHause3> every question met with another question, never an answer .... err... wrong show ;) 22:16:09 *** Brianetta [~brian@77-103-231-158.cable.ubr05.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:16:20 <dragonhorseboy> eddi heh 22:16:58 *** Brianetta [~brian@77-103-231-158.cable.ubr05.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 22:17:24 <Eddi|zuHause3> i could look up the exact quote, but i am too lazy... 22:18:19 <Eddi|zuHause3> and elrail.cpp is a big myth, too... 22:19:08 *** schmidt2 [~funky@p508855C8.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [] 22:19:10 <Eddi|zuHause3> i figure that i need the wire bits to define the PCP, but the trackbits for the PPP, but the code determining these is totally mixed 22:19:19 <nappe1> it works... Next I need to look at the Cargo Payment Rates Graph, as it does not auto scale with the graphs automatically... 22:19:46 *** Killian [~scook0@ppp121-44-214-140.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has quit [Server closed connection] 22:19:58 *** Killian [~scook0@ppp121-44-214-140.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has joined #openttd 22:21:39 *** Aerandir [magic.powe@90-230-201-111-no37.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Quit: - nbs-irc 2.36 - www.nbs-irc.net -] 22:23:07 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:23:38 <Eddi|zuHause3> oh boy, elrail.cpp is a big mess... 22:23:54 <Eddi|zuHause3> what exactly did go through Celestars head back then? 22:25:11 * Maedhros is fairly sure elrail.cpp is not a myth :-P 22:28:04 *** XeryusTC2 [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has joined #openttd 22:28:46 *** Tefad [~tefad@c-71-63-20-187.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has quit [Server closed connection] 22:29:01 *** Tefad [~tefad@c-71-63-20-187.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 22:33:11 *** fjb_ [~frank@p5485D9EB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 22:34:05 *** XeryusTC [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:37:04 *** michi_cc [~michi@dude.icosahedron.de] has quit [Quit: michi_cc] 22:40:22 *** fjb [~frank@p5485E8FC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:40:30 <dragonhorseboy> hey fjb ;) 22:41:03 <Eddi|zuHause3> http://bugs.openttd.org/task/1761 <- i consider this finished now, unless there are any objections 22:42:30 <Prof_Frink> FS#1761 â Eddi|zuHause3's pr0n stash 22:42:33 *** peter1138 [~petern@217.151.109.242] has quit [Quit: bwaaahahaha, te eeeh eeehee boingk!] 22:43:52 <ln-_> Eddi|zuHause3: they sort of promised some answers by the end of the series in the interviews of season 2 extras. 22:45:58 <Eddi|zuHause3> ln-_: yeah, it's a heroes quote ;) 22:47:02 <Eddi|zuHause3> ln-_: and the "promise" should not be read as "we give answers at the end of the series", but rather "if we give any answers, the series ends" 22:50:01 <ln-_> also they told what the final answer will not be. now there is only infinity minus one alternatives left. 22:50:37 <Maedhros> good night 22:51:00 *** Maedhros [~jc@host86-136-161-204.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: leaving] 22:52:19 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F54893.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 22:52:27 *** XeryusTC2 [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:01:28 *** fjb_ is now known as fjb 23:03:41 *** planetmaker is now known as planetmaker^zZz 23:05:03 <NukeBuster> how do I suppress commands being printed on the shell in linux? Something with @echo 23:06:37 <SpComb> suppress them being printed where from where? 23:06:51 <Prof_Frink> send them to /dev/null 23:06:51 <SpComb> .sh scripts don't, by default, write themselves out to stdout 23:06:52 <NukeBuster> from a shell script 23:07:00 *** Osai is now known as Osai^zZz 23:07:01 <NukeBuster> or makefile rather 23:07:07 <SpComb> if you want the output from a command to go nowhere, > /dev/null 23:07:21 <NukeBuster> ok thank you. 23:07:27 <Prof_Frink> if you want the errors to follow, 2>&1 23:10:25 *** michi_cc [~root@dude.icosahedron.de] has joined #openttd 23:10:26 *** mode/#openttd [+v michi_cc] by ChanServ 23:11:35 *** michi_cc [~root@dude.icosahedron.de] has quit [] 23:12:18 *** michi_cc [~michi_cc@dude.icosahedron.de] has joined #openttd 23:16:53 *** Aerandir [magic.powe@90-230-201-111-no37.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 23:20:55 *** Tekky [~Tekky@p5493C208.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 23:20:57 <dragonhorseboy> afk for supper 23:20:59 *** Aerandir [magic.powe@90-230-201-111-no37.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [] 23:21:07 <Roujin> why is every bit in the map array already in use for road tiles? meh 23:22:05 *** michi_cc [~michi_cc@dude.icosahedron.de] has quit [Quit: michi_cc] 23:22:28 *** michi_cc [~michi_cc@dude.icosahedron.de] has joined #openttd 23:23:43 *** Aerandir [magic.powe@90-230-201-111-no37.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 23:24:24 <Roujin> i guess i could steal a bit from the owner of the third road type... :P 23:25:25 <Eddi|zuHause3> i think somebody already has plans for that ;) 23:25:51 *** michi_cc [~michi_cc@dude.icosahedron.de] has quit [] 23:26:05 *** michi_cc [03addbeab5@dude.icosahedron.de] has joined #openttd 23:26:08 *** mode/#openttd [+v michi_cc] by ChanServ 23:26:37 *** michi_cc [03addbeab5@dude.icosahedron.de] has quit [] 23:26:40 <Roujin> for the third road type? 23:27:10 <Roujin> what could that be? 23:27:15 *** michi_cc [~michi@dude.icosahedron.de] has joined #openttd 23:27:18 *** mode/#openttd [+v michi_cc] by ChanServ 23:27:26 <Eddi|zuHause3> i think it was reserved for highway support 23:27:51 <Roujin> don't think so.. 23:28:08 <Roujin> it would be a third type like tram is the second type 23:28:33 <Roujin> meaning a tile can have any combination of the three types on it 23:28:39 <Eddi|zuHause3> m6 appears to have some free bits 23:28:54 <Roujin> nah, they are used globally 23:28:56 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-87-2.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Server closed connection] 23:29:00 <Eddi|zuHause3> so? onramp tiles and stuff 23:29:06 <Eddi|zuHause3> no, not all of them 23:29:18 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-87-2.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 23:29:27 <Roujin> 0,1 = tropic zones, 6,7 = bridge above stuff 23:29:28 <Eddi|zuHause3> 6&7 are for bridges above, and 1&2 are for tropic climate only 23:29:38 <Eddi|zuHause3> means 2..5 are for free use 23:29:46 <Roujin> yeah and inbetween is reserved for third road type layout ;) 23:30:01 <Roujin> NW SW SE NE bit makes 4 bits ;) 23:30:06 <Eddi|zuHause3> where does it say that? 23:30:18 <Eddi|zuHause3> ah, there 23:30:21 <Eddi|zuHause3> hard to spot ;) 23:30:24 <Roujin> docs/landscape.html 23:30:36 <Eddi|zuHause3> gee... thanks :p 23:30:48 <Roujin> well i could steal the highest bit from m1... 23:31:30 *** Zr40 [~zr40@zr40.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Zr40] 23:32:22 <Roujin> probably messy... 23:33:08 <Eddi|zuHause3> what exactly are you trying to do? 23:34:09 <Roujin> exploring if it would be possible to make something like traffic lights 23:35:26 <dragonhorseboy> back 23:35:58 <Roujin> but somehow there's a little lack of unused bits for road tiles oO 23:35:59 <dragonhorseboy> traffic lights? who the hell need any animated ones? the ai'll probably keep running red lights :p 23:36:01 * dragonhorseboy hehes 23:39:18 *** fjb [~frank@p5485D9EB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:39:24 <Roujin> hmm if that third type was indeed planned for a kind of highway, they should have just used one bit to switch normal road to highway 23:39:38 <Slayerofrage> lol @ ai running red lights 23:39:46 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-165-76.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 23:40:27 <dragonhorseboy> slayerofrage well the only things ai rvs are programmed to stop for is by another vehicle blocking the road or its in a depot anyhow ;) 23:40:38 <dragonhorseboy> so yeah active traffic lights they might ignore 23:40:40 * dragonhorseboy hehs 23:43:15 <nappe1> hmmh... 23:43:41 <nappe1> something very weird happens on Cargo payment rates graph... 23:43:46 <dragonhorseboy> yes? 23:44:42 <Slayerofrage> lol yeah dragonhorseboy, it would be a lot of work, to make the ai use traffic lights, and to not much benifet unless there is a lot of traffic 23:45:22 <nappe1> it is using same method to return array with the values as the real deliveries, yet draw graph scales the y-axis as tit would not be. (aka. same scale, without depeding time factor, which makes the values sunk down as unreadable mess) 23:45:33 <dragonhorseboy> slayerofrage yeah...but imagine your traffic went N-S through intersection while AI's went E-W through the same one ... you'll get a lot of emergency brake stomping because your light was green but the ai right there is just blatting by :p 23:45:50 <nappe1> tit == it ;) 23:45:51 <dragonhorseboy> nappel...ah heh ^_^ 23:47:07 *** dfox [~dfox@r5cv25.net.upc.cz] has quit [Server closed connection] 23:47:22 *** dfox [~dfox@r5cv25.net.upc.cz] has joined #openttd 23:48:34 <Eddi|zuHause3> Roujin: highway needs more than just a flag wether it is normal road or highway 23:49:02 <Slayerofrage> true dragonhorseboy, the road system needs an overhaul anyway, though with dtrs, and one way roads more intresting possibilities 23:49:20 <Eddi|zuHause3> like i said already, proper onramps, for example 23:49:24 <SpComb> Logs: http://zapotek.paivola.fi/~terom/logs/openttd 23:49:24 <NukeBuster> !logs 23:49:38 <dragonhorseboy> dtrs? 23:49:46 <Slayerofrage> drive through road stops 23:50:00 <dragonhorseboy> oh 23:50:11 <dragonhorseboy> I just call them thru halts myself ^_^ 23:50:15 <Slayerofrage> lol 23:50:18 <dragonhorseboy> what? 23:50:21 <dragonhorseboy> they ARE! 23:50:28 <Eddi|zuHause3> yeah, that common of an abbreviation... everybody should know it... 23:50:29 <dragonhorseboy> go in.... go out - no turnarounds needed 23:50:30 <dragonhorseboy> :p 23:50:37 <Slayerofrage> aye 23:50:51 <Eddi|zuHause3> that was ironic 23:50:53 <dragonhorseboy> and these ones with the parking spots? just plain halts to me :p 23:51:03 <dragonhorseboy> halt vs thru halts hehehe 23:51:11 * dragonhorseboy chuckles 23:51:49 <Slayerofrage> id call the the ones with bays a logistical nightmare (or a stop sign) with anything more than a few buses routed to them 23:51:50 <dragonhorseboy> slayerofrage..here's something different for you.... 23:51:58 <dragonhorseboy> "roads? where we're go we don't need roads" 23:52:10 <dragonhorseboy> (bonus if you knew the movie) 23:53:24 <dragonhorseboy> slayerofrage? 23:53:32 <Slayerofrage> lol 23:53:47 <Slayerofrage> dont know the movie have heard the quot 23:53:50 <Slayerofrage> quote 23:54:22 <dragonhorseboy> slayerofrage.... two hints: movie was first set in 1985 -and- one actor was michael j. fox 23:54:23 <dragonhorseboy> ;) 23:55:06 <Slayerofrage> Back to the future 23:55:14 <Slayerofrage> Do know the quote now lol 23:55:22 <dragonhorseboy> right 23:55:23 <dragonhorseboy> :p 23:55:52 <dragonhorseboy> that was the quote for when doc came back to pick up marty and then decided that jennifier should come too as "this concerns her too" (hmm or was that the exact quote? I forgot) 23:56:16 <dragonhorseboy> because seem he had came back from future and was taking both of them with him to october 2015 ... I don't recall what the day was 23:56:17 * Slayerofrage thinks dargonhorseboy has watched that movie far to many times 23:56:27 <dragonhorseboy> what? *whacks you* 23:56:30 <Slayerofrage> lol 23:56:31 <dragonhorseboy> it was a good movie allright? :p 23:56:34 <Slayerofrage> aye 23:56:47 *** fryfrog [~fryfrog@c-24-98-63-195.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 23:56:50 <dragonhorseboy> <has the 3 tapes and book .. on top of a few years old triology 3-dvd set box too 23:56:51 <dragonhorseboy> ;) 23:57:19 <dragonhorseboy> I use the dvds mainly for the outtakes/etc tho 23:58:01 <fryfrog> soo.... 23:58:08 <Slayerofrage> lol 23:58:08 <fryfrog> i'm trying to understand pre-signal :/ 23:58:21 <fryfrog> i read and read and read, and play around... 23:58:28 <Slayerofrage> ahh the delight of working out presignals lol 23:58:31 <fryfrog> but, they are still defeating me :/ 23:58:57 <fryfrog> what i'd really like to find is a save game (or picture) of some... newb train layouts to help me understand :) 23:58:57 <dragonhorseboy> slayerofrage just asking but you recall the scene of the alternative 1985 where biff had marty cornered on the rooftop? 23:59:14 <dragonhorseboy> that one quite scared me the first few times I watched that 23:59:44 <fryfrog> 1.21 jiggawatts? 23:59:49 <dragonhorseboy> fryfrog....just asking but you able to post a screenshot of the junction in question that you're trying to presignal? I probably could help