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If you feel an error has been made, please contact support@oftc.net. (2008-04-21 03:20:38)] 03:21:07 *** spelling2 [~spelling2@CPE00012e15cab1-CM00194757ed42.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #openttd 03:23:03 *** spelling2 [~spelling2@CPE00012e15cab1-CM00194757ed42.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [autokilled: K-line evasion. If you feel an error has been made, please contact support@oftc.net. (2008-04-21 03:23:02)] 03:35:02 *** Axamentia [~Axamentia@78-105-140-209.zone3.bethere.co.uk] has quit [] 04:04:56 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:04:57 *** roboman [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 04:44:43 *** Mirrakor [~linuser@p57B2DB1B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 04:55:32 *** Osai`off is now known as Osai 05:08:30 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 05:08:30 *** roboman [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:12:03 *** mindlesstux [~mindlesst@2001:470:88e0:53a:250:2cff:fe07:ff2c] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:14:49 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has quit [Quit: Night All.] 05:29:13 *** sdtr443w [~rocko@cpe-70-113-2-57.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 05:30:13 <sdtr443w> Is there anybody active right now that is familiar with the source? I wanted to ask something about the pathfinding code. 05:37:24 *** Osai is now known as Osai`off 05:46:09 *** Poopsmith [~Poopsmith@19.28.255.123.static.snap.net.nz] has joined #openttd 05:54:56 *** dR3x4cK [~Miranda@p5499C226.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 05:55:15 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-62-167-27-37.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 05:56:24 *** lolEee [~lolman@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 05:57:19 *** McHawk [~hawk@p5489EAF7.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:11:35 <Rubidium> sdtr443w: better ask what you want to know because then somebody might answer it. Now nobody will probably do it because they do not think they know the pathfinding well enough. 06:11:59 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:12:04 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 06:13:07 <Trond> how are the chances for something like this getting to trunk? http://bugs.openttd.org/task/1833 06:13:56 *** Gekz [~brendan@121.218.75.100] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 06:14:08 <sdtr443w> Rubidium I just posted on the forums. I figured it would last there better. 06:14:32 <sdtr443w> (mostly because I'm about to pass out) 06:17:20 *** sdtr443w [~rocko@cpe-70-113-2-57.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:37:00 *** SirBob [~chatzilla@c122-107-238-157.eburwd5.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 06:37:50 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@adsl-58.36.Static.ssp.fi] has joined #openttd 06:39:09 *** Zahl [~Zahl@p549F1A7C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 06:43:25 *** dR3x4cK [~Miranda@p5499C226.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: dR3x4cK] 06:50:22 *** Roest [~ralph@p54B9C305.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 06:50:43 <Roest> morning 06:51:43 *** pm_away [~chatzilla@devera.geophys.nat.tu-bs.de] has quit [Quit: bye!] 06:52:17 *** Trond [~nope@ti131310a080-5716.bb.online.no] has quit [Quit: Oh noes] 06:52:45 *** Purno [~Purno@5357D37C.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 06:55:45 *** lolEee [~lolman@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:01:55 *** elmex [~elmex@e180069230.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 07:02:29 <Roest> roujin ? 07:13:12 *** Purno [~Purno@5357D37C.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:13:37 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 07:15:11 *** Purno [~Purno@5357D37C.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 07:15:34 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:15:38 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 07:21:52 *** SirBob_ [~chatzilla@c122-107-238-157.eburwd5.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 07:23:06 *** Trond [~nope@ti131310a080-5716.bb.online.no] has joined #openttd 07:23:18 *** Slowpoke [~Lobster@dslb-088-073-232-099.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 07:24:57 *** SirBob__ [~chatzilla@c122-107-238-157.eburwd5.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 07:25:34 *** SirBob_ [~chatzilla@c122-107-238-157.eburwd5.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:27:39 *** SirBob [~chatzilla@c122-107-238-157.eburwd5.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:27:52 *** SirBob__ is now known as SirBob 07:31:20 *** SirBob [~chatzilla@c122-107-238-157.eburwd5.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:31:21 *** SirBob__ [~chatzilla@c122-107-238-157.eburwd5.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 07:31:23 *** SirBob__ is now known as SirBob 07:32:33 *** SirBob [~chatzilla@c122-107-238-157.eburwd5.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:32:34 *** SirBob__ [~chatzilla@c122-107-238-157.eburwd5.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 07:32:36 *** SirBob__ is now known as SirBob 07:34:17 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@5350C1C4.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 07:49:20 <Trond> now wonder station I changed messed up :P http://bugs.openttd.org/task/1943 07:49:26 <Trond> no wonder* 07:51:42 <Ammler> you should not make bug report with patched client... :-) 07:54:05 <Roest> hmm your icons look different than mine, or is it just another climate and i never noticed that? 07:54:31 *** pm_away [~chatzilla@devera.geophys.nat.tu-bs.de] has joined #openttd 07:54:39 *** pm_away is now known as planetmaker 07:54:58 <Trond> I did include the fact the it also acts like that with clean r12799 trunk... 07:55:17 <Trond> Roest: it's the opengfx gui 07:55:56 <Trond> that* 07:58:13 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r12813 /trunk/src/toolbar_gui.cpp: -Fix [FS#1943]: the 'last built railtype' got reset too often. 07:58:36 <Roest> guess i'm too noob again, how do i turn it on 07:59:28 <Trond> you download it from somewhere within the opengfx thread :P its a grf file 07:59:35 <Trond> thanks Rubidium 07:59:38 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:00:11 <Roest> ah ok, thought i overlooked a switch somewhere 08:00:40 <Trond> nope, eventough it wouldnt be to hard to do that with all the patch settings available :D 08:02:27 *** SirBob [~chatzilla@c122-107-238-157.eburwd5.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 08:09:40 *** frosch123 [~mtce@kolmogoroff.math.tu-clausthal.de] has joined #openttd 08:10:11 *** Gekz [~brendan@121.218.75.100] has joined #openttd 08:17:13 *** Zahl [~Zahl@p549F1A7C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:18:08 *** SirBob__ [~chatzilla@c122-107-238-157.eburwd5.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 08:18:11 *** SirBob__ is now known as SirBob 08:19:16 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:19:17 *** roboman [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 08:21:17 *** Aerandir [magic.powe@90-230-201-111-no37.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 08:23:29 <Celestar> Rubidium: i'm wondering. why doesn't yapp have a branch? 08:23:47 * Roest chants trunk trunk trunk 08:25:44 <peter1138> Celestar: why? the michi_cc's used git for it 08:26:49 <Celestar> oh 08:26:53 <Celestar> didn't notice sorry 08:27:04 <Celestar> I have never messed with git 08:27:08 <peter1138> his git patch has full history, i believe 08:31:44 *** SirBob [~chatzilla@c122-107-238-157.eburwd5.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:35:33 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B81D75.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: icebears... take care of them!] 08:35:40 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r12814 /trunk/src/vehicle_base.h: -Codechange: reshuffle some variables in the Vehicle struct saving 20 bytes with a 32 bit compiler and 32 bytes on 64 bit compiler per vehicle. 08:37:06 <Celestar> :o 08:37:18 <Celestar> 32 bytes per vehicle?! 08:37:36 <Celestar> that's a crapload 08:38:23 <Rubidium> it's less than 10% 08:38:28 <peter1138> drops from 432 to 400 :o 08:38:47 <Celestar> well ... in a FOR_ALL_VEHICLE loop that's still 10% memory bandwidth saved 08:39:03 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F57DF4.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 08:39:55 <Roest> blah trond, i need to work 08:43:40 <st6> I downloaded a grf and i cp it to ottd/data, and now the grf editor doesnt wanna find it 08:46:12 <peter1138> Celestar: memory bandwidth? FOR_ALL_VEHICLES does not copy it around... 08:46:40 <peter1138> hmm, but the cpu will load things into cache... dunno what block size though 08:47:06 <HMage> ÐŒÑÐŒÑ 08:49:18 <Celestar> peter1138: good question 08:54:44 *** SirBob__ [~chatzilla@c122-107-238-157.eburwd5.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 08:54:46 *** SirBob__ is now known as SirBob 08:56:01 *** SirBob [~chatzilla@c122-107-238-157.eburwd5.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:56:03 *** SirBob__ [~chatzilla@c122-107-238-157.eburwd5.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 08:56:05 *** SirBob__ is now known as SirBob 09:00:19 <Celestar> peter1138: well, basically it means that we can fit more into the cache 09:00:24 <Celestar> peter1138: and we reduce cache misses 09:11:47 <Celestar> omfg 09:12:05 <Celestar> someone from the administrative department just sent me a file 09:12:11 <Celestar> it'S a word document 09:12:14 <Celestar> it came per mail 09:12:18 <Celestar> on a 3.5" FDD 09:13:04 <Rubidium> ms word or word perfect? 09:13:15 <Celestar> I dunno, since I can'T read it 09:13:16 <mrfrenzy> maybe it's time you replaced their computers with something that lacks floppy drives ;) 09:13:23 <Celestar> I don'T have a FDD :S 09:13:37 <Celestar> mrfrenzy: I would but I'm no admin for that department 09:13:57 <mrfrenzy> aah too bad then ;) 09:14:41 <Celestar> me looks for a punchcard reader why search for a FDD 09:15:05 *** Nitehawk [~nitehawk@c-76-30-125-86.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:16:36 <Roest> maybe you should send them a 5.25" disc and say that's your answer 09:16:51 <mrfrenzy> haha 09:16:58 <mrfrenzy> or a zip-disc 09:17:07 <Celestar> I'll send them a holographic memory stick along with a printed copy of "The Physics of Star Trek" 09:17:39 <HMage> you should send on a tape 09:17:41 *** BiO-HaZaRd_ [~BiO-HaZaR@63-242-246-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #openttd 09:17:58 <Celestar> yeah these old tapes they used in bad movies :P 09:18:00 <Celestar> 38cm 09:19:14 <peter1138> bah, microsd 09:19:40 <Celestar> I sent them a spreadsheet once (and even converted it to Excel for ease), with the request of revising? What did they do? They printed it out, corrected it, and faxed it back. Then they called and said "Oh we've marked some stuff in red and others in green so you can see it easily" 09:19:53 <HMage> ÐŽÑÐŽ 09:19:54 <HMage> lol 09:21:04 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r12815 /trunk/src/cargopacket.h: 09:21:04 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: -Codechange: reshuffle some variables in the CargoPacket struct saving 4 of 36 09:21:04 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: bytes with a 32 bit compiler and 8 of 48 bytes on 64 bit compiler per cargo 09:21:04 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: packets. There are generally more cargopackets in game than vehicles. 09:21:42 <peter1138> now that's a weird comment ;) 09:21:57 *** SmatZ [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has joined #openttd 09:22:08 <peter1138> Celestar: ... 09:22:41 *** roboman [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:22:44 *** robotboy [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 09:22:45 <Celestar> peter1138: that was sort of my reaction 09:23:49 *** Gekz [~brendan@121.218.75.100] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:24:08 *** Gekz [~brendan@121.218.75.100] has joined #openttd 09:24:31 *** BiO-HaZaRd [~BiO-HaZaR@245-251-246-201.adsl.terra.cl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:25:07 *** Zahl [~Zahl@p549F3C44.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 09:26:49 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has joined #openttd 09:27:59 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r12816 /trunk/src/ (oldloader.cpp player_base.h players.cpp saveload.cpp): -Fix: the cargo count in the performance rating window could be wrong. 09:36:30 *** Brianetta [~brian@77-103-231-158.cable.ubr05.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 09:38:35 *** rebry [~irc@30.80-202-212.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 10:02:25 *** SpComb^ [terom@zapotek.paivola.fi] has joined #openttd 10:02:42 *** Poopsmith [~Poopsmith@19.28.255.123.static.snap.net.nz] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:02:55 *** ooo4tom [~ooo4tom@92.2.101.181] has joined #openttd 10:02:58 *** SpComb is now known as Guest1021 10:02:58 *** You're now known as SpComb 10:04:23 *** Guest1021 [terom@zapotek.paivola.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:05:03 *** ooo4tom [~ooo4tom@92.2.101.181] has quit [] 10:05:55 *** ralph_ [~ralph@p54B9E270.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 10:12:40 *** Roest [~ralph@p54B9C305.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:17:47 *** mikl [~mikl@x1-6-00-14-bf-cc-78-b6.k706.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 10:18:07 <mikl> Êv, jeg er trÊt af at vÊre syg 10:18:09 *** SirBob [~chatzilla@c122-107-238-157.eburwd5.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:18:30 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@5350C1C4.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 10:20:36 <mrfrenzy> mikl: jag fröstÃ¥r dig, samma hÀr ;) 10:21:40 *** frosch123 [~mtce@kolmogoroff.math.tu-clausthal.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:22:30 *** ralph_ is now known as Roest 10:26:29 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 10:26:29 *** robotboy [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:26:56 <Roest> that blender thread has some amazing things 10:28:44 *** Mirrakor [~linuser@p57B2DB1B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:30:24 *** Mirrakor [~linuser@p57B2DB1B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 10:30:30 *** Arie- [asdfsadf@villabadmuts.adsl.utwente.nl] has joined #openttd 10:34:19 <Celestar> Roest: which thread? 10:34:26 *** michael__ [~linuser@p57B2DB1B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 10:34:26 *** Mirrakor [~linuser@p57B2DB1B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:37:41 <Roest> Celestar: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=14549 10:37:55 * Celestar looks 10:38:29 <Celestar> :o 10:38:31 <Celestar> 191 pages?! 10:38:46 <Roest> :) 10:38:49 <peter1138> Celestar: it's a project that hasn't really got anywhere 10:39:10 <peter1138> 1) everything is the wrong scale 10:39:10 <Roest> still some nice thing there 10:39:24 <peter1138> 2) no coordination in doing a complete set 10:39:56 <Celestar> we'd need a good coordination with some hierachy 10:40:02 <Roest> http://www.tt-forums.net/download/file.php?id=89756 10:40:04 <Celestar> and good spelling 10:40:39 *** michael__ [~linuser@p57B2DB1B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:40:53 <Celestar> like a terrain leader, a buildings leader, a vehicle leader etc 10:40:57 <Celestar> and then split further 10:41:40 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@5350C1C4.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 10:41:44 <Roest> can i be the tropical beaches terrain leader? 10:42:34 <Celestar> that you should make up with the terrain leader 10:43:15 <peter1138> if you're the tropical beach terrain leader, i want to be the steel bridge south slope terrain leader! 10:43:32 <Celestar> methinks peter1138 overinterpreted something 10:44:20 <Celestar> but it doesn't help much when people generate vehicles left and right 10:44:25 <Roest> i think i can grant you that title 10:44:44 <peter1138> random vehicles 10:44:58 <peter1138> static industries (industries are built up out of different tile layouts, heh) 10:45:17 <Roest> steel bridge south slope terrain leader, i expect your suggestions for a steel bridge over a tropical beach tomorrow 10:45:41 <peter1138> concrete piles 10:45:55 <peter1138> oh, tomorrow, not today 10:46:04 <Celestar> plus the sprites need to have exactly the same aspect ratio as they have now and either a 1:1 or a 2:1 or a 4:1 scale 10:46:30 <Roest> i guess it's just a show off blender skills thread 10:47:07 *** michael__ [~linuser@p57B2DB1B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 10:47:07 *** michael__ [~linuser@p57B2DB1B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:52:27 <Roest> btw is anyone of you using a ide for ottd development on linux? 10:53:10 <peter1138> not me 10:53:30 <Roest> that's why you didnt get the north slope 10:56:08 *** rebry [~irc@30.80-202-212.nextgentel.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:58:52 *** rebry [irc@dhcp-163-28.idi.ntnu.no] has joined #openttd 11:04:05 *** rebry_ [irc@vpn-215136.vpn-s.ntnu.no] has joined #openttd 11:07:03 *** rebry [irc@dhcp-163-28.idi.ntnu.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:11:49 <Celestar> Roest: yes :) 11:11:52 <Celestar> Roest: it's called vim 11:12:11 <planetmaker> o_O :) 11:12:37 <Celestar> I've tried other IDEs (like kdevelop). nothing works as well ass vim 11:12:40 * planetmaker thinks there are some masochists out there :) 11:12:40 <Celestar> s/ass/s 11:13:05 * Roest agrees with planetmaker 11:13:54 <planetmaker> I've my own OS which is an IDE: Emacs :P 11:13:56 <peter1138> i use gedit when i have a lot to cut & paste around 11:13:59 <peter1138> normally i use vim 11:14:10 <Celestar> planetmaker: emacs is a great OS, it just lacks a decent editor 11:14:27 <Roest> lol emacs jokes never get old 11:14:42 *** michael__ [~linuser@p57B2DB1B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:14:42 *** michael__ [~linuser@p57B2DB1B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 11:14:42 <planetmaker> :) 11:15:03 <planetmaker> the good point being: I don't have to learn cvs. It just works... 11:15:11 <Celestar> cvs sucks aynway 11:15:54 *** Mwa [~lexi@70.188-233-85.staticip.namesco.net] has joined #openttd 11:16:06 *** Mwa [~lexi@70.188-233-85.staticip.namesco.net] has quit [] 11:16:27 <Ammler> Has someone a save with North American City Set v0.1c? 11:16:51 <teeg> http://xkcd.com/378/ speaking of emacs jokes. 11:17:09 <Roest> lol ammler, that's a pretty specific request 11:17:35 <Ammler> should be most current version of the set 11:18:08 <Ammler> I am not able to use it in ottd, dunno, maybe I have wrong settings somewhere 11:18:46 <peter1138> works for me 11:18:46 <Roest> i'm ttr, somehow i trust a 3.x version more than a 0.1 11:18:52 <Roest> i'm using* 11:19:00 <peter1138> i use both 11:19:22 <peter1138> http://www.openttd.org/server_detail.php?id=17323 < big list ;) 11:19:55 * Ammler joins :- 11:20:20 <Rubidium> peter1138: it isn't THAT big ;) 11:20:25 *** rebry_ [irc@vpn-215136.vpn-s.ntnu.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:21:05 <Rubidium> I see no 59 (IIRC) NewGRFs in there 11:22:18 *** rebry [irc@dhcp-163-28.idi.ntnu.no] has joined #openttd 11:22:44 <planetmaker> lol. xkcd is good as always :) 11:23:20 <Ammler> wow, GRF missmatch 11:23:33 <Ammler> not believeable, I do not have all GRFs you have :-) 11:23:49 <Roest> lol 11:23:51 <Rubidium> no, you don't! 11:23:56 <planetmaker> ... sais one god of grf to the other? ;) 11:24:15 <Ammler> UKRS I chain 11:24:38 <Rubidium> then you've got a different build than the one peter1138 uses 11:26:06 <peter1138> Rubidium: true... i like games that are playable ;) 11:26:25 <peter1138> Ammler: new version released at the weekend 11:26:58 <Ammler> peter1138: just changed the build to YAPP? 11:27:05 <Ammler> :P 11:27:18 <peter1138> ... no 11:27:27 <peter1138> i'm using 0.6.0 on there 11:27:37 <Ammler> oh yeah 11:27:52 <Ammler> hmm, do I need to restart the client? 11:29:07 <Roest> omg so many 0.5.3 servers on myottd 11:29:16 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r12817 /trunk/src/ (7 files): -Feature: the ability to play NewGRF sounds for industries and stations. 11:29:33 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:29:44 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 11:29:59 <Ammler> oh, you have mixed them 11:30:07 <Ammler> NACity and TTRS 11:30:21 <Roest> that's what he said 11:30:56 <Ammler> I like to see such a city in ottd: 11:31:15 <Ammler> http://www.tt-forums.net/download/file.php?id=83115 11:31:53 <Ammler> should work, doesn't? 11:31:57 <Roest> looks cool, link to the thread? 11:32:09 <Ammler> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=35458&start=0&st=0&sk=t&sd=a 11:33:15 <peter1138> OH GOD MY EMAIL DOESN'T WORK 11:33:58 <Ammler> oh, you have those cities on your server :-) 11:34:35 <Roest> peter1138: reboot and it will work again 11:37:16 <SpComb> Roest: I bet 90% of them are abandoned and defunct 11:38:01 <Ammler> SpComb: you should "autodisable" them after a time of unusing. 11:38:07 <peter1138> unusing! 11:38:10 <Ammler> :-) 11:38:16 <Ammler> help me 11:38:24 <peter1138> with what? 11:38:54 <Ammler> with the right word... 11:39:20 <peter1138> disuse? 11:39:52 <Ammler> http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=ungebraucht 11:40:01 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@194.171.202.99] has joined #openttd 11:40:34 <peter1138> unused is a word, yes 11:40:49 <Ammler> there should also be filter at servers.openttd.org 11:41:06 <SpComb> to filter out the dozens of servers that myottd advertises? 11:41:09 <Eddi|zuHause3> "ungebraucht" ... who uses that word?!? 11:41:22 <Ammler> SpComb: not only them 11:41:33 <SpComb> but anyways, the lifetime of the current myottd code is limited, so I'm not going to touch it 11:42:09 <Ammler> but there are also running myottd servers, it seems 11:45:02 <Ammler> Eddi|zuHause3: german is a foreign language as english is. :-) 11:46:18 <Roest> Trond: that patch is already broken beyond repair again, engine_base.h is gone 11:46:30 <Ammler> has TTDPatch a switch for disabling default hauses? 11:46:34 <Ammler> houses 11:46:53 <Eddi|zuHause3> the grf should have that 11:47:03 <Ammler> Roest: its no there yet, iirc 11:47:44 <Ammler> you need to cp engine_type.h 11:48:30 <Ammler> Eddi|zuHause3: TTRS has that, but I don't see it in NACity 11:49:41 <Ammler> I have many default houses but you don't see them in the screen of the NACity thread. 11:54:06 <peter1138> there is no engine_base 11:54:59 *** rebry [irc@dhcp-163-28.idi.ntnu.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:58:33 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@194.171.202.99] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 11:58:56 <Roest> i noticed that, stupid patch then 12:00:28 *** Slowpoke [~Lobster@dslb-088-073-232-099.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:04:19 <peter1138> yes, ridiculous 12:08:24 <SpComb> MyOTTD's current status is such that the most sensible course of action for me right now would be to temporarily take the service down, again 12:08:30 <SpComb> my view of the matter is that it's currently only doing harm 12:08:59 <peter1138> disable it but leave the live servers going? 12:09:31 <Noldo> SpComb: why is that? 12:09:58 <SpComb> peter1138: what do you mean with live servers? 12:10:11 <Noldo> games that are running? 12:10:21 <peter1138> servers with people playing on them 12:10:25 <SpComb> leave them running without possibilities for management? 12:10:36 <SpComb> that's one issue, I don't have any way to define what a live server is 12:11:00 <peter1138> check the server list 12:11:02 <Roest> anything that's older than 0.6.0 for a start 12:11:47 <SpComb> Noldo: I would be wasting my time if I do any work on the current code, and the current code is and never was fit for running on production 12:12:15 <Roest> dev.myottd.net is down :( 12:12:43 <SpComb> no, http://dev.myottd.net/ without the port 12:13:48 <SpComb> although it's currently running some game that's in the year 8000 (or whatever...) and the company's gone bankrupt and dissapeared :) 12:14:34 <SpComb> wait, I'll restart it 12:14:55 <Roest> that's kinda cool 12:16:26 <SpComb> and it works reasonably well 12:18:56 <Ammler> SpComb: somhow possible to have other saves there or servers? 12:20:33 <SpComb> not really, no 12:20:55 <SpComb> it requires a customized version of OpenTTD, so it's pretty far away from being used like that 12:22:39 <Noldo> you can't just feed a giant screen shot to the part that shows the picture? 12:23:10 *** rebry [~irc@30.80-202-212.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 12:27:54 <Ammler> stupid question, is it possible to have different values for resolution in window view and full? 12:32:59 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:33:00 *** roboman [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 12:40:05 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@192.87.214.197] has joined #openttd 12:41:28 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 12:41:29 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 12:48:40 *** SmatZ_ [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has joined #openttd 12:48:40 *** SmatZ is now known as Guest1030 12:48:40 *** SmatZ_ is now known as SmatZ 12:50:40 *** Guest1030 [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:57:13 *** Slowpoke [~Lobster@dslb-088-073-232-099.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 13:03:15 *** frosch123 [~mtce@pascal.math.tu-clausthal.de] has joined #openttd 13:06:45 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@192.87.214.197] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 13:09:41 *** mindlesstux [~mindlesst@2001:470:88e0:53a:250:2cff:fe07:ff2c] has joined #openttd 13:13:15 *** Arie- [asdfsadf@villabadmuts.adsl.utwente.nl] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.03 :: www.XLhost.de )] 13:22:28 *** Noldo [vheino@jumi.lut.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:28:06 *** Noldo [vheino@jumi.lut.fi] has joined #openttd 13:30:02 *** HerzogDeXtE1 [~Flex@89.246.194.251] has joined #openttd 13:36:19 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 13:36:19 *** roboman [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:37:08 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.217.219] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:37:41 <SpComb> http://pb.paivola.fi/610 <-- have a bugreport 13:38:14 <glx> SpComb: rev? 13:38:37 <Eddi|zuHause3> it was fixed already afaik 13:38:54 <SpComb> r12792 13:39:11 <glx> fixed in 12796 13:41:44 <Celestar> @openttd commit 12796 13:41:45 <DorpsGek> Celestar: Commit by rubidium :: r12796 trunk/src/video/dedicated_v.cpp (2008-04-19 21:51:05 UTC) 13:41:46 <DorpsGek> Celestar: -Fix: the dedicated blitter did segfault too, like the null blitter did. 13:41:59 <Celestar> @openttd bugs 13:41:59 <DorpsGek> Celestar: Open Bugs: 28; Not assigned: 21; Closed this week: 11; Opened this week: 10 13:42:27 <Rubidium> Celestar: go fix bugs if you want that number to be lower ;) 13:42:51 <Celestar> Rubidium: I'll try to :) 13:42:51 <Eddi|zuHause3> i'm sure i can find a couple of bugs to report, too :p 13:43:07 <Celestar> Eddi|zuHause3: if you can, report them ... 13:45:16 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r12818 /trunk/src/ (5 files): -Codechange: make callbacks 31 and 37 behave like they do in TTDP according to frosch's survey. 13:46:07 *** egladil [~egladil@goth-gbg-109-143-233-83.3.cust.bredband2.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:59:19 *** egladil [~egladil@goth-gbg-109-143-233-83.3.cust.bredband2.com] has joined #openttd 14:06:57 *** Tim [~chatzilla@p5090A82C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 14:08:38 <Tim> hello 14:10:31 <Celestar> hello Tim 14:10:34 *** Tim [~chatzilla@p5090A82C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 14:11:20 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1E894.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:11:59 *** Axamenta [~Axamentia@78-105-140-209.zone3.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 14:12:27 *** Roujin [~Roujin@mnch-4d04d39b.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 14:12:31 <Roujin> g'day 14:12:36 <Axamenta> ey up 14:13:06 <Roest> sup 14:14:27 *** Digitalfox_Home [~chatzilla@bl7-188-118.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:14:44 *** Digitalfox_Home [~chatzilla@bl7-188-118.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 14:15:44 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@adsl-58.36.Static.ssp.fi] has quit [Quit: You will never be the man your mother was!] 14:21:24 *** Osai`off is now known as Osai 14:31:49 *** Digitalfox_Home [~chatzilla@bl7-188-118.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.81 [Firefox 2.0.0.14/2008040413]] 14:32:12 *** Digitalfox_Home [~chatzilla@bl7-188-118.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 14:32:36 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has joined #openttd 14:33:46 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r12819 /trunk/src/ (9 files): -Codechange: handle more NewGRFs in the same way as TTDP does it, i.e. testing the low bits for 0xFF or 0 instead of all bits. 14:34:51 *** a1270 [~Cheese@24-117-88-79.cpe.cableone.net] has quit [Quit: The ending changes tone & is actually quite sad - but it involves a scene of necrophilia, so that's just another plus in my book.....] 14:39:44 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:39:45 *** roboman [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 14:40:32 *** a1270 [~Cheese@24-117-88-79.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #openttd 14:43:09 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@86.89.201.189] has joined #openttd 14:47:44 <Gekz> how is everyone tonight 14:48:11 *** dR3x4cK [~Miranda@p5499D292.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:48:44 <frosch123> nice, sun in shining through the window :) 14:50:57 <Gekz> lol 14:51:11 <hylje> Sun 14:53:01 <teeg> aagh, big evil daystar 14:58:35 <Roest> sun is overrated 14:59:49 *** Taejo [~max@196-209-177-183-rndf-esr-5.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #openttd 15:01:55 <Taejo> hi, I'm new to TTD and OpenTTD -- I was trying to follow the tutorial, but the "New Road Vehicles" window doesn't have any vehicles in it 15:03:05 <Rubidium> what year did you start in? 15:03:10 <Rubidium> and what 'climate'? 15:03:25 <Roest> damn i was gonna ask that 15:03:41 <Taejo> just used the defaults - the tutorial doesn't talk about that 15:04:09 <Rubidium> still, what year is it? 15:04:14 <Taejo> 1900 15:04:17 <Rubidium> thats' 15:04:18 <Roest> :) 15:04:29 <Rubidium> that's way too early for vehicles to normally exist 15:04:30 *** Dominik [~Dominik@dslb-092-072-014-031.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 15:04:33 <Roest> that's hardly the default 15:04:55 <Taejo> well, I didn't change it 15:05:06 <Taejo> thanks for your help 15:05:53 <Roest> someone did, default is 1950 15:06:26 <Roest> real die hard people start at 1920 tho 15:06:50 *** sickie88 [~sickie@BSN-250-11-164.dial-up.dsl.siol.net] has joined #openttd 15:08:25 <Digitalfox_Home> Don't forget Roest with newgrf sets you can start before 1920 with vehicles :) 15:11:05 <Roest> btw is there anything in the standard sets that's available before 1920? 15:11:55 <Eddi|zuHause3> the standard sets start around 1935 15:12:43 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:13:03 <Roest> devs: is dynamic window creation on the list of future things? 15:13:08 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has joined #openttd 15:13:43 <Eddi|zuHause3> only if you can do it without using OO :p 15:14:11 <Gekz> lol 15:14:38 <Gekz> is there a set that starts in the 1800s? 15:15:10 <Eddi|zuHause3> Gekz: with what kind of vehicles? 15:15:26 <Gekz> Eddi|zuHause3: trains of course 15:15:26 <Eddi|zuHause3> serbian narrow gauge set starts in like 1870 or so 15:15:52 <Gekz> eww narrow gauge 15:16:19 <Eddi|zuHause3> 1835 was the first railway in germany, afaik 15:16:40 <Gekz> is there a german train set? 15:16:58 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 15:17:00 <Eddi|zuHause3> there's the DBSet, but it starts in 1920 15:17:15 <Ammler> the earliest is canset, imo 15:17:19 <Gekz> thats what I use 15:17:25 <Ammler> around 1902 15:17:31 <Gekz> Eddi|zuHause3: have you ever considered making your own newgrf? 15:17:54 <Eddi|zuHause3> i have considered making my own newgrf description language, if that is what you mean ;) 15:18:06 <Gekz> no 15:18:07 <Gekz> lol 15:18:22 <Eddi|zuHause3> just i have not enough time 15:18:36 <Ammler> hmm a finished GRFMaker would also help a lot, I guess 15:18:51 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x50a46c34.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 15:18:54 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 15:18:58 <Gekz> oh dear 15:19:03 <Gekz> time to stop talking about him 15:19:06 <Gekz> now that he's here. 15:25:01 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@145-118-108-75.fttx.bbned.nl] has joined #openttd 15:27:00 <Roest> is this dead? http://uwe.s2000.ws/ttdx/germanrv/trams.php?lang=en 15:27:58 <peter1138> works for me 15:29:53 <Roest> lol, i mean does anyone know this project or the makers, and is there still progress? 15:30:41 <peter1138> oh... no idea 15:32:42 <Roest> so peter1138 while you're here and not working on a south sloped steal bridge, dynamic window creation? 15:33:43 <peter1138> what? 15:35:31 <Gekz> why are there no diagonal bridges 15:36:17 <Roest> peter1138: http://www.tt-forums.net/download/file.php?id=89491 see the cargo legend widget? i need adding of a panel at runtime 15:36:27 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.172] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:37:14 <frosch123> Roest: I guess you will find the authors at http://www.tt-ms.de/forum/ (german) 15:37:29 <peter1138> oh, well, that's possible 15:37:38 <peter1138> other windows have dynamic *widget* creation 15:37:48 <Belugas> Gekz, because you did not wrote the patch 15:37:51 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.172] has joined #openttd 15:37:53 *** sickie88 [~sickie@BSN-250-11-164.dial-up.dsl.siol.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:37:56 <peter1138> write 15:37:58 *** sickie88 [~sickie@BSN-250-11-164.dial-up.dsl.siol.net] has joined #openttd 15:38:01 <Gekz> Belugas: lol 15:38:02 <Belugas> right 15:39:30 <Belugas> in short, because they never have been designed, from day one, because it wold imply that roads might be diagonal too, because the sprite number would just sky rocket, because... not sure they would look good 15:40:20 <Belugas> AND because, as far as I know, they are not really a commun part of the feature that I hate the most, called REALITY 15:40:45 <Belugas> so MAYBE all these points are some explanations to X and Y only bridges 15:43:16 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 15:43:25 *** roboman [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:44:38 <peter1138> i think that touched a nerve 15:44:41 <Lakie> depends how you define diagonal roads, Belugas, after all diagonal is just a direction and roads go in all sorts of diretions... 15:46:08 <Belugas> they do? I though they were only based on X and Y axis? 15:46:16 <Lakie> In reality? 15:46:25 <Belugas> no, in TTD 15:46:30 <Lakie> In TTD, yes. 15:46:51 <peter1138> stupidly, the world does not come on a grid 15:47:08 <Belugas> most of th time, the BRIDGES are not diagonal either. 15:47:11 <Belugas> rght peter1138 :) 15:47:29 <Belugas> [11:46] <@Belugas> most of th time, IN REALITY, the BRIDGES are not diagonal either. 15:48:04 <Gekz> I didnt mean diagonal road bridges 15:48:08 <Gekz> I meant diagonal rail bridges 15:48:14 <Lakie> You seen the british spegigi junction? 15:48:16 <Gekz> I should have been more specific 15:48:22 <Lakie> Bridges at all sorts of angles 15:48:24 <Lakie> ¬_¬ 15:48:26 *** Zolorado [zolorado@91.147.233.28] has joined #openttd 15:48:30 <Belugas> if you permit diag rail bridges, youpermit diag road briges too 15:49:17 <Lakie> But I don't see any gain for having it in TTD. 15:49:20 <Lakie> -_- 15:49:26 <Belugas> indeed 15:49:43 <peter1138> speak for yourself 15:49:47 <peter1138> i'd like it 15:49:58 <peter1138> i've no idea how it would look 15:50:04 <peter1138> and especially how the slopes would work 15:50:08 <Zolorado> hi! I need a bit help: in my language there are some non-latin characters, that can not displayed 15:50:23 <Zolorado> how can I change the type? 15:50:46 <Lakie> Does OpenTTd, support custom bridge heads yet, Peter / Belugas? 15:50:50 <peter1138> no 15:50:52 <Lakie> :( 15:51:08 <Gekz> it would be very helpful for track design 15:51:24 <Gekz> would make a lot of things simpler 15:51:24 <Lakie> Makes things more compact. 15:51:24 <Gekz> and less ugly 15:51:43 <Gekz> or chuck a rollercoaster tycoon 15:51:47 <Gekz> allow elevated rails 15:51:50 <Kloopy> Custom bridge heads is simply the tile at each end of a bridge is setup to allow points, signals, etc and act like a normal track piece, at any angle, isn't it? 15:52:04 <Gekz> that would probably happen about the time subways are patched in, if ever 15:52:10 <peter1138> ideally custom bridge heads shouldn't exist 15:52:17 <Belugas> Zolorado, i think you might find a note reagarding using fonts on readme or even on wiki. 15:52:50 <Lakie> Aren't they just the TTD fonts with extra characters? or are you refering to grf font support? 15:52:58 <Lakie> But they are so useful, Peter. 15:53:00 <Zolorado> [Belugas]: yeah, I should to write sthing into the config file... but I have no config file 15:53:18 <Belugas> have you ever run the game? 15:53:19 <peter1138> lakie, openttd supports any font that freetype supports 15:53:22 <Zolorado> yes 15:53:27 <Belugas> then you have one 15:53:29 <Lakie> Zolorado: have you checked your documents? 15:53:39 <peter1138> Lakie: ah, but if you think differently, the concept does not need to exist 15:53:42 <Lakie> <Your Documents>/openttd is where it stores mine 15:54:03 <Zolorado> oh, yes, thanks! :D 15:54:23 <Zolorado> have a nice day 15:54:24 <Lakie> Heh, true Peter... 15:55:09 <Zolorado> bye 15:55:12 *** Zolorado [zolorado@91.147.233.28] has quit [] 15:57:49 * Lakie still likes some of his works for ttdpatch, even if they are 'substandard' to OpenTTD variants. 15:58:57 <Belugas> substandard? what do yo mean? 15:59:05 <Lakie> Oh, that reminds me, any luck with that icon, Belugas? 15:59:14 <Lakie> Um, thinks like clonetrain, twoccgui 15:59:26 <Belugas> have not worked on it, to be honest. Weekend has been a nightmare 15:59:43 <Lakie> (The latter would be rejected do to the code using odd logic in it and rather random code)... 15:59:56 <Belugas> when spring comes in, my wife has this habit of wanting to clean the whole house from ground up... 16:00:41 *** Brianetta [~brian@77-103-231-158.cable.ubr05.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 16:00:42 <Belugas> what's clonetrain? 16:00:42 <Lakie> Hehe 16:00:51 <Lakie> My mom wants to do that some times. 16:01:08 <Lakie> Basically the same as the clonetrain function in ottd, just me from scratch ttdpatch version 16:01:18 * Belugas wonders what is worst... a mom or a wife... 16:01:23 <Lakie> Well, they do the same thing but the code is different. 16:01:25 <Lakie> Wife? 16:01:26 <Belugas> ok :) 16:02:02 <Lakie> Clonetrain hasa very simplistic approch to cloning and all the complexity is in the 'hooks' 16:02:07 <Belugas> wife. yes. Married for 17 years now 16:02:44 <Lakie> Nice. 16:03:07 * Lakie is only 20 so he's still got all that ahead of him (or not). 16:03:49 <Belugas> nice age... 16:04:08 <Belugas> best age i've been is 30s 16:04:10 <Belugas> loved it 16:04:19 <Belugas> well... from 30 to 35 16:04:40 *** Arie- [asdfsadf@villabadmuts.adsl.utwente.nl] has joined #openttd 16:04:43 <Lakie> Heh. 16:04:56 <Belugas> but let's not waste this lunch hour in chatting and use it for coding instead... 16:05:02 <Lakie> Ok, sorry. 16:05:03 <Belugas> )although chatting is fun) 16:06:00 <planetmaker> I really love the new station animations. 16:06:04 * Lakie should really rewrite that 'crap' he calls his coursework to actually work better. 16:06:17 <planetmaker> But is there a possibility to alter the loading / unloading speed of trains? 16:06:31 <Lakie> Thats down to the grf, planetmaker 16:06:40 <planetmaker> So that one could tweak it maybe such that the crane ones move down the train? 16:06:47 <Lakie> Aciotn0 var 07 I believe. 16:07:01 <planetmaker> No generic variable to multiply this speed with? 16:07:20 <Lakie> Damn, I was right too, been a long time since I nfo coded... 16:07:35 <Lakie> Not as far as I know, there might be one, Peter? 16:08:05 <Ammler> no, needs to be set for every single VehID 16:08:24 <planetmaker> ^^ Just got this idea as I was watching a nicely eye-candied station :). 16:08:44 <planetmaker> Anyway: two thumbs up for the recent improvements :) 16:08:47 <Lakie> Really, I thought the animations on the stations jurked when I saw them (ttdpatch) 16:09:02 <planetmaker> And thx for the info, Lakie & Ammler 16:09:41 <Ammler> planetmaker: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/Airmod.grf at the bottom for airplanes 16:10:14 <peter1138> clonetrain is like our clone vehicle, but for trains only :P 16:11:19 <peter1138> Lakie: they're lovely and smooth when you've got fastforward on 16:11:31 <planetmaker> Ammler: yeah. But it is - IMO - a nice idea to have some overall speed control over this like, say, day-length patch on the game speed :) 16:11:59 <Ammler> try with timetables 16:12:00 <planetmaker> If you want to slow down everything there's no need to modify zillions of grf, just one global var... 16:12:14 <planetmaker> THAT indeed might help :) 16:12:39 *** Boyinblue0 [~admin@5ac85a9c.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 16:12:50 <Lakie> with fast forward, yes, but the actual animation at normal speed seems jurky. >_> 16:12:56 <peter1138> well, i have to say, suggestion denied :p 16:13:10 <peter1138> Lakie: in what way jerky, too discrete steps? 16:13:20 <Lakie> Yeah. 16:13:29 <Lakie> and a little too much time between steps 16:13:44 <Lakie> But thats the grf doing it not openttd. 16:13:49 <peter1138> ah 16:14:02 <peter1138> well, there'd be a lot more tile layouts if it was smoother 16:14:07 <peter1138> and more cpu usage 16:14:45 <Lakie> Hehe, true 16:19:11 *** Boyinblue0 [~admin@5ac85a9c.bb.sky.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:19:18 *** Boyinblue0 [~admin@5ac85a9c.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 16:22:58 <Roujin> ahahahaha xD 16:23:13 <Roujin> i just read through what i missed while being afk 16:23:28 <Roujin> this is so good xD 16:23:49 <Roujin> [18:01] * @Belugas wonders what is worst... a mom or a wife... 16:23:49 <Roujin> [18:01] <Lakie> Well, they do the same thing but the code is different. 16:24:08 <Bjarni> :D 16:24:17 <Lakie> Heh, buy you took it out of context. ;) 16:24:38 <Bjarni> that's the usual way to make people look weird and funny 16:24:46 <Roujin> it's much funnier like this xD 16:26:39 *** Volley [~worf@84.119.67.68] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:27:58 *** Boyinblue0 [~admin@5ac85a9c.bb.sky.com] has quit [] 16:31:06 *** thgergo [~Administr@dsl51B7A13F.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 16:42:54 *** Gedemon [~Gedemon@mar92-5-82-226-127-245.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 16:43:30 <Gedemon> hi 16:44:10 <Bjarni> hello Gedemon 16:44:15 <Bjarni> and welcome 16:45:38 <Gedemon> thanks :) 16:46:54 <Roujin> hi there 16:46:54 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:46:54 *** roboman [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 16:47:48 *** McHawk [~hawk@p5489DDFC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:49:22 <Gedemon> hi Roujin, nice work on new traffic lights new features 16:49:50 <Roujin> thanks :) 16:50:17 <Roujin> I planned to do multi tile consists from the beginning, but never got around to do it up until now :) 16:51:16 <Roujin> and the pathfinder penalties, that was just a very nice idea, thanks for suggesting it ;) 16:53:38 *** dR3x4cK [~Miranda@p5499D292.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: dR3x4cK] 16:53:56 <Ammler> possible to use it in town owned roads now? 16:54:04 <Roujin> yes, as seperate patch option 16:54:28 <Roujin> off by default, but if set to on, you're free to eyecandyfy your towns as you like ;) 16:54:44 <Ammler> thats not only eyecandy 16:55:02 <Ammler> well, you need rv crash support :-) 16:55:06 <Roujin> heh 16:55:19 <Roujin> go and make a patch :P *ducks* 16:55:54 <Roujin> that's the standard "i don't want to do this" response ^^ 16:56:15 <Ammler> I don't believe, you don't want :-) 16:56:31 <Roujin> no seriously, it was in the suggestions forums just shortly ago 16:57:11 <Roujin> and some dev (belugas?) responded that computing train crashes already makes up a nice amount of cpu usage 16:57:35 <Roujin> and that applying the same to roadvehs would probably be too much 16:58:01 <Belugas> yup i did 16:58:21 <Belugas> i strongly believe it would 16:58:34 <Belugas> although i do not have data to prove it, since i've not coded it 16:58:56 <frosch123> well, but road vehicles do not drive through each other, so maybe everything needed is already done. 16:59:09 <Roujin> they do not? 16:59:16 <Roujin> look closer? oO 17:00:13 <frosch123> they overtake 17:00:40 <Roujin> okay, maybe they do not if they are going in the same direction - but at a crossing with left turning vehicles? iirc they don't really care about time-space continuum there or something 17:00:47 <Belugas> they can frosch123. stop a vehilcle that's ovetaking one, and see what happens with thre vehicle coming the other way 17:01:33 <Belugas> so you have two side by side vehiles pointing the same way, and you have another one goign toward the first stpped ones 17:01:39 <Roujin> anyways, gotta go for a while.. see you guys later /afk 17:01:40 <Belugas> and ghosting :D 17:01:43 <frosch123> but still: the overtaking test scans all roadvehicles on a tile 17:02:02 <Belugas> going on the same direction, i believe 17:02:11 <Belugas> although... i might very much be wrong... 17:03:38 *** Chicago_Rail_Authority [~somewhere@c-68-40-40-232.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 17:04:30 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: frosch * r12820 /trunk/src/newgrf_callbacks.h: -Documentation: Mark callbacks as 8 or 15 bit in 'newgrf_callbacks.h'. 17:04:40 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 17:05:26 <Belugas> heheh... looks like newgrf_callbacks is the only truely known reference of which callback results are 8 or 15 bits 17:07:48 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has joined #openttd 17:10:32 *** Roujin [~Roujin@mnch-4d04d39b.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:13:59 *** frosch123 [~mtce@pascal.math.tu-clausthal.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:14:30 *** Roujin [~Roujin@mnch-4d04d39b.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 17:15:45 *** nicfer [~chatzilla@168.226.104.223] has joined #openttd 17:16:26 <Ammler> is there a special reason for no snow in temperate or just lack of patch? 17:17:14 <Roest> we didnt have a real winter in years 17:17:27 <Ammler> :P 17:17:28 *** SmatZ_ [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has joined #openttd 17:17:28 *** SmatZ is now known as Guest1058 17:17:28 *** SmatZ_ is now known as SmatZ 17:18:00 <Belugas> lack of proper code, lack of patch, lack of interest, etc etc, Ammler 17:18:30 <Belugas> you want snow? why don't you use arctic? specifically made for that :D 17:18:38 *** sickie_ [~sickie@BSN-250-11-164.dial-up.dsl.siol.net] has joined #openttd 17:18:39 <peter1138> indeed 17:18:52 <Belugas> or if you want snow on temperate, use MB's alpine stuff 17:19:27 <Ammler> Truelights patch for current trunk: http://paste.openttd.org/2919 17:19:35 <Belugas> nope 17:19:38 <Belugas> not fur current trunk 17:19:42 *** Guest1058 [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:19:45 <Ammler> :-) 17:19:53 <Belugas> for ottmachin chose of the day 17:20:05 <Ammler> I do not like the brown ground 17:20:11 <Belugas> it was NEVER made to get it in trunk 17:20:33 <Ammler> and MBs grf can't be used with other sets. 17:20:36 *** Axamenta [~Axamentia@78-105-140-209.zone3.bethere.co.uk] has quit [] 17:20:50 *** sickie88 [~sickie@BSN-250-11-164.dial-up.dsl.siol.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:21:12 <peter1138> ... 17:21:17 <Belugas> too bad... 17:21:23 <peter1138> make a grf then 17:21:41 <Ammler> well, there are many GRFs but without support from OTTD 17:21:45 <Belugas> hein? you mean... WORKING ???? 17:22:15 <peter1138> Belugas: seems to be too much effort 17:22:32 *** Roujin [~Roujin@mnch-4d04d39b.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:23:07 <peter1138> it's far easier to do nothing except whine 17:24:07 *** Osai is now known as Osai`off 17:25:02 *** sdtr443w [~rocko@cpe-70-113-2-57.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 17:25:07 <Belugas> [13:20] <Ammler> well, there are many GRFs but without support from OTTD <-- maybe they are badly written? or else? 17:25:20 <Ammler> almost all Canada sets 17:26:21 <Belugas> nice... would you be kind enough to make a list, where to get them and why thety fail to work? 17:26:42 <Belugas> who knows... maybe it might be helfull? 17:26:56 <Roest> hell 17:27:24 <Ammler> they need snow in temperate 17:27:33 <Ammler> it wokrs nice with the patch 17:27:58 <Lakie> hehe 17:28:19 <Ammler> not TTDPatch :-), there too, but I mean the diff 17:28:55 <Lakie> I know, I remember you saying about it a few days back after I noticed OpenTTD doesn't support it in its trunk. 17:29:50 <Ammler> as I updated the patch to current trunk, some parts seems already be changed to support it... 17:31:44 <Belugas> ho... those grfs are based on a feature that is not in trunk ad no one is interested to implement in the dev team? 17:31:47 <Belugas> well... 17:32:22 <Belugas> no wonder... 17:33:13 <Belugas> no, as far as i;m aware, no work at all is been done to support snow line in temperate 17:33:53 *** lolman [~john@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 17:33:58 *** lolEee [~lolman@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 17:36:13 <Lakie> Manage to get much coding done over the lunch break? 17:36:56 <Belugas> two lines, a few documentation, but yes, i think i've managed to reach my goal :) 17:37:08 *** Roest [~ralph@p54B9E270.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:39:50 *** sickie_ is now known as SickieAway 17:42:26 *** yorick [~yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 17:53:27 *** roboman [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:54:25 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host16-234-dynamic.5-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 17:55:04 <Wolf01> hello 17:58:36 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: glx * r12821 /branches/noai/src/ai/api/squirrel_export.awk: [NoAI] -Fix: some awk implementation fail to understand eol other than \n 18:07:50 *** Boyinblue0 [~admin@5ac85a9c.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 18:10:14 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: truebrain * r12822 /branches/noai/src/squirrel_class.hpp: [NoAI] -Fix: minor documentation typo 18:11:00 * peter1138 @ home 18:11:19 *** Taejo [~max@196-209-177-183-rndf-esr-5.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:13:47 *** LordA [~questionm@ip41.cab22.ltln.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 18:13:56 *** LordA is now known as LordAzamath 18:14:55 <LordAzamath> heilou 18:16:56 <sdtr443w> On Linux shouldn't ./configure --CFLAGS=-g get me debugging symbols? I don't seem to get them. 18:18:22 <peter1138> ./configure --enable-debug=1 will do it 18:18:39 <peter1138> ./configure CFLAGS=-g probably will too... dunno 18:20:50 <sdtr443w> I saw enable-debug. I'm doing a rebuild now... 18:22:10 <sdtr443w> Would that put the binary in the bin directory when make finishes, or should I run out of objs/debug? 18:22:27 <sdtr443w> n/m looks like I got symbols now 18:22:43 <sdtr443w> Now I can figure out what yapf is thinking 18:23:47 *** What25895 [~asd@x1-6-00-18-39-d3-e9-f6.k899.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 18:23:47 <Lakie> With debug builds, is it correct that the console that opens with OpenTTD should be blank? 18:23:49 <Lakie> (Windows OS) 18:26:04 <peter1138> yes, it goes bin :) 18:26:10 <peter1138> sdtr443w: yapf? good luck ;) 18:26:11 *** Roest [~ralph@p54B9E270.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:26:30 <peter1138> Lakie: on debug builds? it's blank until message is output, i guess...? 18:26:36 <sdtr443w> Yeah I know--I said that with some nonchalance haha 18:26:59 * peter1138 replies the midi question with suitable exactness... 18:27:06 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.172] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:27:21 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.172] has joined #openttd 18:27:42 <Roest> peter1138: can you answer my question with suitable detailness? 18:27:47 <Wolf01> today I did a strange thing on VB: I used a constant on the select case statement, and a variable for each case... 18:27:47 <Lakie> midi is dieing? 18:28:00 <Wolf01> midi is immortal 18:28:50 <peter1138> Lakie: midi won't die as long as we have gm_ttXX.gm 18:29:14 <Lakie> Hehe 18:29:24 <Lakie> I disabled that a long time ago. 18:29:37 <Lakie> on TTD -> music -> off 18:30:41 <peter1138> Roest: no, as i see no question 18:30:44 <peter1138> Lakie: heretic! 18:30:58 <Lakie> Lol 18:31:08 <peter1138> it sounds a bit naff through fluidsynth 18:31:34 <peter1138> but that's because it has 150MB of sound fonts 18:31:46 *** cjk [~cjk@sovereign.computergmbh.de] has joined #openttd 18:31:46 <Fingon> Lakie : me too :p i *hope* most people did, that music gets sooo old after hours of playing 18:32:15 <Lakie> Not old, causes the game to jurk as it loads the file into memor to play 18:32:21 <Lakie> and longer map loading times 18:32:23 <Lakie> =death 18:32:26 <Lakie> ;) 18:32:41 <peter1138> you must have a very slow system for loading a 50KB file to slow things down 18:32:55 <Lakie> Slow? 18:33:06 <Lakie> My system is designed for high performance gaming 18:33:38 <Lakie> Quite the oppisite, in TTDpatch it lagged quite a bit, not sure why, but it was enough for me to perminantly stop it 18:33:47 <cjk> Where would extra data that is downloaded upon joining an internet game be stored? 18:34:01 <peter1138> cjk, what sort of extra data? 18:34:25 <cjk> dunno, sometimes when joining a game there's like tens to hundred of Ks of downloaded daata. If that's just the map, ok :) 18:35:10 <Roest> it's just the map 18:35:21 <Roest> and gamestate 18:35:34 <peter1138> it's just a savegame 18:36:10 <cjk> good to know 18:39:27 *** LordAzamath [~questionm@ip41.cab22.ltln.starman.ee] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.81 [Firefox 2.0.0.14/2008040413]] 18:39:58 <cjk> why is it that Electrified Rail is not available in the Arctic climate? 18:40:05 <cjk> is it just that way? 18:40:44 <DaleStan> Because there are no electrified trains in Arctic. 18:40:47 <Belugas> yup 18:42:50 <Lakie> Nice simple solution, use a grf 18:57:19 *** Boyinblue0 [~admin@5ac85a9c.bb.sky.com] has quit [] 19:01:55 *** yorick [~yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- s0 d4Mn l33t |t'z 5c4rY!] 19:10:53 *** lolman [~john@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:11:13 <cjk> kinda funny to see airplanes going into "Service mode" while in flight... 19:11:50 *** Roujin [~Roujin@mnch-4d04d39b.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 19:12:03 <Bjarni> better servicemode than breakdown 19:12:23 <Bjarni> you know it would be funny if they didn't move for the duration of the breakdown 19:12:31 *** Frostregen_ [~sucks@dslb-084-058-172-157.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 19:12:39 <cjk> or rather crashing :) 19:12:43 *** Mark [~M4rk@5351EE62.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:13:24 <Patrick`_> Bjarni: didn't they, um, do that once? 19:18:12 *** Frostregen [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-157-088.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:18:40 *** Frostregen_ is now known as Frostregen 19:20:31 <ln> ï·œ 19:21:02 <Sacro> square? 19:21:33 *** KritiK [~Maxim@93-80-100-199.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 19:27:27 *** Roujin [~Roujin@mnch-4d04d39b.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Organize your IRC] 19:27:54 <glx> square here too 19:28:05 <cjk> say what? 19:29:14 *** planetmaker is now known as pm_away 19:43:21 *** planetmaker [~chatzilla@Fcd0d.f.ppp-pool.de] has joined #openttd 19:44:03 *** SickieAway is now known as sickie_ 19:44:15 <ln> remember a full Unicode font is highly recommended on this channel. 19:44:40 <glx> arial unicode is the most complete I have :) 19:44:45 <cjk> efont-unicode ftw 19:44:57 <cjk> or whatever happens to run inside a term emu by default 19:46:34 *** Osai`off is now known as Osai 19:49:23 *** sickie_ is now known as SickieAway 19:51:58 <cjk> #if defined(_MSC_VER) && _MSC_VER >= 1400 /* VStudio 2005 is stupid! */ 19:51:59 <cjk> heh 19:54:45 *** Mark [~M4rk@5351EE62.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 19:54:47 *** Mark is now known as M4rk 19:54:49 *** M4rk is now known as Mark 19:55:11 <glx> cjk: what's wrong with this line? 19:56:57 <cjk> just funny to see 20:00:07 <teeg> hm. fascinating. defining a template inside a class crashes the compiler for vs2008. 20:00:32 <teeg> (gcc complains that it's invalid, as it should) 20:03:06 <peter1138> nice 20:04:15 *** Slowpoke [~Lobster@dslb-088-073-232-099.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:07:59 <cjk> http://wiki.openttd.org/index.php/Junction -- what is a one-tile bridge? bridges are usually 2 at least (including ramps), though 0 if not including ramps 20:08:43 *** Digitalfox [~Digitalfo@bl7-188-118.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 20:15:07 <Patrick`_> with PBI or ECS, if I don't transport the product of a secondary/tertiary industry, obviously I've lost it 20:15:21 <Patrick`_> but what about places that produce two products of which I transport 1, is the other one just lost? 20:15:30 <Patrick`_> or does the factory know what's going to get transported 20:20:17 *** Roest [~ralph@p54B9E270.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:28:25 <Digitalfox> Finally after almost 4 years Windows XP SP3 is released.. :p No more hundreds of updates download :) 20:29:38 <peter1138> cjk: that looks like false information... speed limit is not based on length anyway... 20:30:32 *** NukeBuster [~NukeBuste@a62-251-21-79.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 20:33:19 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: glx * r12823 /branches/noai/ (5 files in 2 dirs): [NoAI] -Add: added AICompany::(G|S)etAutoRenew(Status|Months|Money) 20:34:50 <cjk> peter1138: the info is correct per se; you can only build girder steel bridges (251 km/h) when they are too short 20:34:57 <cjk> bad for highspeed maglev trains 20:35:15 <peter1138> ... it's not correct at all 20:36:59 <cjk> what is correct? 20:38:06 *** Purno [~Purno@5357D37C.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:42:30 *** NukeBuster [~NukeBuste@a62-251-21-79.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:42:30 *** [1]NukeBuster [~NukeBuste@a62-251-21-79.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 20:42:30 *** [1]NukeBuster is now known as NukeBuster 20:43:31 *** dR3x4cK [~Miranda@p5499D292.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:51:10 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: peter1138 * r12824 /trunk/src/ (9 files): -Codechange: Standardise routines for drawing vehicle images, using correct types and less duplication. 20:53:07 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: truebrain * r12825 /branches/noai/src/ai/api/ai_company.hpp: [NoAI] -Fix r12823: minor documentation clearup 20:55:38 *** Osai is now known as Osai^zZz 21:05:36 *** thgergo [~Administr@dsl51B7A13F.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:08:45 *** a1270 [~Cheese@24-117-88-79.cpe.cableone.net] has quit [Quit: The ending changes tone & is actually quite sad - but it involves a scene of necrophilia, so that's just another plus in my book.....] 21:12:45 *** BiO-HaZaRd_ [~BiO-HaZaR@63-242-246-201.adsl.terra.cl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:13:32 *** BiO-HaZaRd [~BiO-HaZaR@63-242-246-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #openttd 21:16:04 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: glx * r12826 /branches/noai/ (80 files in 5 dirs): [NoAI] -Sync: with trunk r12780:12824 21:16:10 *** Gedemon [~Gedemon@mar92-5-82-226-127-245.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:19:59 *** planetmaker [~chatzilla@Fcd0d.f.ppp-pool.de] has quit [Quit: bye!] 21:21:46 *** Boyinblue0 [~admin@5ac85a9c.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 21:27:00 *** Chicago_Rail_Authority [~somewhere@c-68-40-40-232.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has left #openttd [] 21:27:57 *** Boyinblue0 [~admin@5ac85a9c.bb.sky.com] has quit [] 21:41:03 *** BiO-HaZaRd [~BiO-HaZaR@63-242-246-201.adsl.terra.cl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:41:34 *** BiO-HaZaRd [~BiO-HaZaR@63-242-246-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #openttd 21:55:40 *** What25895 [~asd@x1-6-00-18-39-d3-e9-f6.k899.webspeed.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:01:23 *** a1270 [~Cheese@24-117-88-79.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #openttd 22:02:26 *** BiO-HaZaRd_ [~BiO-HaZaR@63-242-246-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #openttd 22:02:37 *** BiO-HaZaRd [~BiO-HaZaR@63-242-246-201.adsl.terra.cl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:07:16 *** KritiK_ [~Maxim@93-80-100-36.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 22:11:17 *** KritiK [~Maxim@93-80-100-199.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:11:26 *** KritiK_ is now known as KritiK 22:14:04 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: Darkvater * r12827 /extra/website/ (8 files in 3 dirs): [Website] -Add multilanguage support for multiple languages (EN,NL currently) (most probably by Rubidium) 22:14:42 <Digitalfox> WOW Darkvater is back =0 22:15:12 <Rubidium> or... Darkvater is the default 'user' on the webserver 22:15:18 <Digitalfox> oh :( 22:15:59 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: Darkvater * r12828 /extra/website/ (includes/ottd.inc.php screens.php templates/nightly.tpl): [Website] -Codechange: Use strftime() instead of gmdate (Rubidium I'd guess) 22:17:14 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: Darkvater * r12829 /extra/website/ (5 files in 3 dirs): [Website] -Codechange: Some minor updates (year, hoster link, etc.) 22:17:52 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: Darkvater * r12830 /extra/website/post.php: [Website] -Fix: Content did not update when added/edited because wrong cache was cleared 22:18:15 *** Digitalfox [~Digitalfo@bl7-188-118.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:18:35 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: Darkvater * r12831 /extra/website/default.php5: [Website] -Fix: Also get language data when the user is logged-in (invisible edit buttons, etc.) 22:18:48 *** BiO-HaZaRd [~BiO-HaZaR@63-242-246-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #openttd 22:20:02 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: Darkvater * r12832 /extra/website/languages/ (. en_US.php nl_NL.php): [Website] -Add EN and NL language files (Rubidium I'd guess) 22:22:41 <Ammler> Rubidium: you might also fix the rev link here: http://www.openttd.org/nightly.php :-) 22:22:52 *** Digitalfox [~Digitalfo@bl7-188-118.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 22:23:14 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: Darkvater * r12833 /extra/website/ (8 files in 3 dirs): [Website] -Codechange: set native eol-style on missing files 22:23:30 <Rubidium> I've not touched it in a long time 22:23:45 <Rubidium> and all the guessings and probablies in the above are wrong 22:24:05 *** BiO-HaZaRd_ [~BiO-HaZaR@63-242-246-201.adsl.terra.cl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:24:17 <Ammler> ok 22:24:21 <Ammler> :-) 22:25:24 * SmatZ wonders who Darkvater is (if it is not really Darkvater) 22:27:04 <Dominik> btw the redirection of svn.openttd.org is wrong 22:27:22 <SmatZ> it is 22:27:24 <SmatZ> known 22:28:13 *** Digitalfox [~Digitalfo@bl7-188-118.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:31:00 *** Digitalfox [~Digitalfo@bl7-180-128.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 22:34:57 *** Digitalfox_Home [~chatzilla@bl7-188-118.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:37:12 <Wolf01> 'night 22:37:15 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host16-234-dynamic.5-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 22:37:33 <Eddi|zuHause3> i hate sourceforge 22:38:28 <Prof_Frink> Use Lunchbox! 22:40:02 <cjk> heh 22:41:13 *** Volley [~worf@84.119.67.68] has joined #openttd 22:41:26 <Eddi|zuHause3> they don't manage to display the damn site properly in konqueror 22:41:47 <Volley> which site? 22:42:17 <SpComb> Logs: http://zapotek.paivola.fi/~terom/logs/openttd 22:42:17 <Eddi|zuHause3> !logs 22:42:32 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:44:06 <Volley> sourceforge? hmm ... never noticed a problem ... 22:44:38 <Bjarni> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1ZZQW_2G4k <--- I just found a "different" video. This is a guy on a bike chasing a train while filming it 22:46:26 *** XeryusTC is now known as Xeryus|bnc 22:47:15 <Eddi|zuHause3> offtopic youtube link!! kill him!! 22:47:39 <Eddi|zuHause3> Volley: did you try sourceforge in konqueror? 22:48:06 <Volley> ay... ok - i now found a misplaced "new" ... 22:48:27 <Eddi|zuHause3> did you try to download anything? 22:48:45 <Volley> i regularily download from sf... yeah ... not right now tough ... just a sec ... 22:48:45 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: truebrain * r12834 /extra/website/post.php: 22:48:45 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: [Website] -Fix r12830: clear ALL language files when posting, not only the current language you are logged in with 22:48:45 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: -Note: Darkvater guess'd wrong, all language changes are by me, and very very broken (maybe it shouldn't have been committed ;)) 22:48:57 <Eddi|zuHause3> Bjarni: you said the train drives what... 25km/h? 22:49:32 <Sacro> Bjarni! 22:49:36 <Bjarni> 15 km/h 22:50:19 <Eddi|zuHause3> hm, i already wondered... the guy on the bike can't be driving that fast while filming 22:50:28 <SmatZ> it moves really slow, not like any ICE 22:50:41 <Bjarni> it's the speed limit of the tracks 22:50:44 <Bjarni> not the train 22:50:44 <Volley> Eddi|zuHause3: just tried to download something from sf.net, both firefox and konqueror... i didn't notice any obvious difference 22:50:49 <Bjarni> the train can go 120 km/h 22:50:50 <SmatZ> 250km/h on a bike... 22:51:13 *** BiO-HaZaRd [~BiO-HaZaR@63-242-246-201.adsl.terra.cl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:51:23 <Bjarni> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3QPn_a3Ivw <--- whoa... somebody recorded the train I drove yesterday... it wasn't recorded yesterday so I'm not there but still 22:51:44 *** BiO-HaZaRd [~BiO-HaZaR@63-242-246-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #openttd 22:51:57 <SmatZ> :-) 22:52:26 <Volley> Eddi|zuHause3: either some issue which is fixed in my version, oder ... i'm just too blind :) 22:54:31 <Eddi|zuHause3> Volley: when i hover over a package in konqueror, it shows a "shownotes" link, when i hover over that same position in firefox, it shows the "download" link 22:55:20 <Bjarni> oh something funny happened yesterday... there was a guy with a video camera who wanted to record a video kind of like that but he was just in front of a red signal so we just slowed down to a crawl (like 5 km/h) and closed in slowly until we came to a complete stop right in front of him 22:55:37 <Bjarni> I didn't look like he expected that to happen xD 22:55:42 <SmatZ> trams here are allowed to go 60km/h, but then it may end like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8Ih4j5kE4A or this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwbiYVEcnpE 22:55:57 <Eddi|zuHause3> SmatZ: trams have better brakes 22:56:01 <Bjarni> that ended up being a long video 22:56:02 <Eddi|zuHause3> or are lighter 22:56:12 <Eddi|zuHause3> so they have shorter braking distance 22:56:54 <Bjarni> SmatZ: you tried driving? 22:57:06 <SmatZ> Eddi|zuHause3: I don't know - but sure buses have even shorter braking distance 22:57:10 <SmatZ> Bjarni: :-) no 22:57:37 <Eddi|zuHause3> i haven't heard of a heavy tram accident around here in quite a long time 22:57:48 <Eddi|zuHause3> usually "just" a tram hitting a car 22:57:49 <Bjarni> those 15 km/h is set to match the brakes of the trains from the 60's. Now they are sold to Poland and the new ones might push the speed limit up while keeping the same brake distance 22:58:05 <Eddi|zuHause3> where "tram 1:0 car" is the usual outcome 22:58:08 <Bjarni> I think it would be 25 km/h 22:58:15 <SmatZ> :) 22:58:30 <SmatZ> poor Poland :-x 22:58:34 <Bjarni> no 22:58:39 <Eddi|zuHause3> but they took the tram out of the roads in most dangerous places now 22:58:55 <Eddi|zuHause3> and put up traffic lights 22:59:05 <Bjarni> even though some of the trains were 40 years old they were still in good condition and it's not everybody who wanted to let them go 22:59:10 <Eddi|zuHause3> that turn red when a tram approaches 22:59:35 <Bjarni> sounds reasonable 22:59:47 <Bjarni> also because then trams can get though traffic faster 23:00:16 <Bjarni> trams are like the Danish metro: a small imitation of a train 23:00:25 <Bjarni> real trains are somewhat different 23:00:26 <SmatZ> :-) 23:00:42 <SmatZ> and trams can't turn... 23:01:05 <Eddi|zuHause3> most new trams here can go backwards 23:01:05 <Bjarni> "ARE YOU COMPARING OUR LOCOMOTIVE TO A TRAM????" <--- I actually heard that once 23:01:13 <SmatZ> :-) 23:01:35 <Eddi|zuHause3> i have too many windows open 23:01:44 <Bjarni> as a reply to one guy who talked about how trams can be repaired and asked if the locomotive could be fixed the same way 23:01:49 <Eddi|zuHause3> and i'm not even in windows 23:01:56 <Bjarni> Eddi|zuHause3: sounds windy and cold 23:01:59 <SmatZ> :-D 23:02:35 <Eddi|zuHause3> gnah... why can't this configure just list _ALL_ missing packages... 23:02:38 *** Dominik [~Dominik@dslb-092-072-014-031.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:02:52 <Eddi|zuHause3> no, it must list them one at a time, and start the test from the beginning each time 23:02:54 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: truebrain * r12835 /extra/website/templates/nightly.tpl: [Website] -Fix: don't link to svn.openttd.org, as it is no longer in use (glx) 23:03:20 *** sunk [sunkan@sunkan.bsnet.se] has joined #openttd 23:03:24 <Eddi|zuHause3> if svn.openttd.org is not used anymore, what is used instead? 23:03:46 <Bjarni> I once visited a guy (IT student) and he was in the middle of a project. He wanted to see how many windows he could open before he filled up his memory with windows 23:03:48 <Bjarni> it was in the 90's 23:03:54 <SmatZ> I use svn.openttd.org for SVN syncing 23:04:01 <Bjarni> you can actually open a whole lot of windows on a 8 mb system (specially if the system is designed to use max 2 mb) 23:04:10 <SmatZ> :) 23:04:17 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r12836 /trunk/src/unix.cpp: -Fix: SunOS non-dedicated server compilation. 23:04:21 <glx> svn.openttd.org is still used, but not for browsing 23:04:30 <Bjarni> ahh 23:04:42 <Bjarni> I started to wonder where I should make future checkouts from 23:06:32 *** sunkan [sunkan@sunkan.bsnet.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:06:32 *** sunk is now known as sunkan 23:08:10 <Bjarni> goodnight channel 23:08:47 <Eddi|zuHause3> good night, johnboy 23:09:05 <Bjarni> who is johnboy? 23:09:58 <Eddi|zuHause3> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Waltons 23:11:16 <Tefad> heh, i grew up near where the waltons was created 23:11:46 <Tefad> when i was in highschool in band, i performed at one of the museum openings (they have open/closed seasons) 23:12:42 <Bjarni> whatever 23:12:45 <Bjarni> zzz 23:12:57 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x50a46c34.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has left #openttd [zzz] 23:14:57 <Eddi|zuHause3> gnah, i hate compiling on my own 23:15:15 <Eddi|zuHause3> it always demands two dozens of *-devel packages to be installed 23:15:47 *** SmatZ [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:18:13 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@86.89.201.189] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 23:19:11 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@86.89.201.189] has joined #openttd 23:24:51 *** SickieAway [~sickie@BSN-250-11-164.dial-up.dsl.siol.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:33:47 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1E894.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:36:54 *** larsemil [~larsemil@gote2.61.cust.blixtvik.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:37:40 <sdtr443w> I'm trying to step through yapf using DDD and I'm getting lost 23:38:14 *** elmex [~elmex@e180069230.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:38:23 <Eddi|zuHause3> hence "good luck" :p 23:38:51 <sdtr443w> It makes the slightest more sense than the pathfind source in the root source tree, but just barely 23:39:03 <sdtr443w> I'm not too use to DDD either, so it feels like it's skipping around too much when I step 23:39:20 <Eddi|zuHause3> what exactly are you trying to do anyway? 23:39:39 <sdtr443w> If I had two depots next to each other I would want them to be considered in a route 23:40:04 <sdtr443w> Say, if I had two depots back-to-back, a train would be able to go in one and exit the other 23:40:40 <Eddi|zuHause3> there must be like a "follow track" routine 23:40:50 <Eddi|zuHause3> that decides in which directions to continue 23:40:51 <sdtr443w> Yeah there is something like that 23:40:54 <sdtr443w> Might be called that too 23:41:13 <sdtr443w> I'm trying to figure out where I saw it in there though so I was about to do another run 23:41:49 <Eddi|zuHause3> that is pretty much the only place you should look for 23:42:30 *** BiO-HaZaRd_ [~BiO-HaZaR@63-242-246-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #openttd 23:42:58 <sdtr443w> It seems like the title screen doesn't use yapf; my breakpoints never trigger there 23:43:07 *** BiO-HaZaRd [~BiO-HaZaR@63-242-246-201.adsl.terra.cl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:43:48 <Eddi|zuHause3> the title screen is way older than yapf 23:46:21 <Sacro> Eddi|zuHause3: so is your mum 23:46:38 <Eddi|zuHause3> that is indeed true 23:51:50 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@145-118-108-75.fttx.bbned.nl] has quit [Quit: Zzz] 23:53:48 *** Volley [~worf@84.119.67.68] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:55:48 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]