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00:02:34 *** coaxial [~62d79022@webuser.thegrebs.com] has joined #openttd 00:04:28 <coaxial> anyone know standardgamer? 00:08:04 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:10:24 *** lolEee [~john@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:12:21 *** divoafx [~asd@x1-6-00-18-39-d3-e9-f6.k899.webspeed.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:13:48 <Belugas> that's a game? a riddle? 00:13:54 <Belugas> a band? 00:15:35 <coaxial> a user, sorry 00:15:51 <coaxial> well his name comes up in the logs anyway 00:16:07 <Belugas> does no ring a bell, sorry 00:16:27 <coaxial> ok thanks 00:16:49 <coaxial> whats this or anyway? gamedev? 00:16:53 <coaxial> for 00:19:13 *** coaxial [~62d79022@webuser.thegrebs.com] has left #openttd [] 00:20:06 <Belugas> yes, as well as user advice and general chatting 00:20:12 <Belugas> pffff 00:31:29 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-62-167-42-36.adslplus.ch] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:34:08 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B76AA8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 00:34:15 *** christian [~christian@pD9E5F2B4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 00:37:07 *** michi_cc [bb733658f5@dude.icosahedron.de] has joined #openttd 00:37:10 *** mode/#openttd [+v michi_cc] by ChanServ 00:39:41 *** christian_ [~christian@pD9E5DF39.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:40:34 *** Eddi|zuHause3 [~johekr@p54B75D52.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:44:37 *** Fiddler [~jazzclub@213.219.152.19.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net] has joined #openttd 01:05:09 *** michi_cc [bb733658f5@dude.icosahedron.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:07:33 *** Digitalfox [~Digitalfo@bl7-182-170.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:09:39 *** KritiK [~Maxim@93-80-101-97.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:16:52 *** Fiddler [~jazzclub@213.219.152.19.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 01:20:08 *** Volley [~worf@84.119.65.133] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:29:27 *** Digitalfox_Home [~chatzilla@bl7-182-170.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.81 [Firefox 2.0.0.14/2008040413]] 01:29:56 *** Digitalfox_Home [~chatzilla@bl7-182-170.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 01:34:32 *** mynetdude|Away is now known as mynetdude 01:49:41 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B83B2D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:51:26 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B83143.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 01:51:29 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 01:52:09 *** michi_cc [d4fd4b2db7@dude.icosahedron.de] has joined #openttd 01:52:12 *** mode/#openttd [+v michi_cc] by ChanServ 01:54:11 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm250.epsilon121.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #openttd 02:05:08 <ln> bonsoirmercivoilà 02:05:51 *** michi_cc [d4fd4b2db7@dude.icosahedron.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:09:01 <glx> avec des espaces c'est mieux 02:10:14 <ln> i've got some french girl's phone number in my phone now. 02:10:48 <ln> as if it made any damn difference about anything. 02:10:58 <glx> +33 numbers? 02:12:12 <ln> finnish gsm number 02:13:51 <ln> and that bonsoirmercivoilà phrase was what a funny contrÃŽleur in Suisse train said to everyone 02:14:57 <glx> "take ticket" and "give ticket" are the spaces ;) 02:16:32 <ln> and a thumbs up gesture after the voilà . :) 02:33:00 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has quit [Quit: Night All.] 03:02:13 *** elmex_ [~elmex@e180064051.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 03:03:45 *** Zahl [~Zahl@p549F19B4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: (~_~]"] 03:06:14 *** elmex [~elmex@e180077009.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:08:10 *** elmex_ is now known as elmex 03:13:40 *** NukeBuster [~NukeBuste@a62-251-21-79.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [] 03:37:41 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: bye] 03:44:26 *** christian [~christian@pD9E5F2B4.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: christian] 03:54:01 *** michi_cc [f36290f360@dude.icosahedron.de] has joined #openttd 03:54:03 *** mode/#openttd [+v michi_cc] by ChanServ 04:36:47 *** Slowpoke_ [~Lobster@dslb-088-073-204-137.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 04:38:45 *** DaleStan_ [~Dale@pool-71-98-88-27.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 04:38:45 *** DaleStan is now known as Guest2513 04:38:46 *** DaleStan_ is now known as DaleStan 04:43:02 *** Guest2513 [~Dale@pool-71-98-88-27.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:44:06 *** Slowpoke [~Lobster@dslb-088-073-249-242.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:52:27 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm250.epsilon121.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [] 05:02:30 *** Leviath [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 05:06:57 *** a1270 [~Cheese@24-117-88-79.cpe.cableone.net] has quit [Quit: The ending changes tone & is actually quite sad - but it involves a scene of necrophilia, so that's just another plus in my book.....] 05:08:49 *** LeviathNL [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:08:54 *** a1270 [~Cheese@24-117-88-79.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #openttd 05:15:39 *** a1270 [~Cheese@24-117-88-79.cpe.cableone.net] has quit [Quit: The ending changes tone & is actually quite sad - but it involves a scene of necrophilia, so that's just another plus in my book.....] 05:18:52 *** a1270 [~Cheese@24-117-88-79.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #openttd 05:28:34 *** a1270 [~Cheese@24-117-88-79.cpe.cableone.net] has quit [Quit: The ending changes tone & is actually quite sad - but it involves a scene of necrophilia, so that's just another plus in my book.....] 05:32:22 *** a1270 [~Cheese@24-117-88-79.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #openttd 05:36:30 *** DaleStan_ [~Dale@pool-71-98-88-27.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 05:36:30 *** DaleStan is now known as Guest2517 05:36:31 *** DaleStan_ is now known as DaleStan 05:43:19 *** Guest2517 [~Dale@pool-71-98-88-27.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:15:29 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.191.213] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:24:55 *** xkrchnav [~xkrchnav@ro-chr.netdatacomm.cz] has joined #openttd 06:27:17 <Patrick`_> what's the difference between a duck? 06:27:19 <Patrick`_> one has feathers. 06:27:43 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 07:00:59 <mynetdude> talking to yourself tonight Patrick`_? 07:01:12 <Patrick`_> no, I just lost the game 07:01:29 <mynetdude> ah :( 07:02:07 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.191.213] has joined #openttd 07:04:18 *** mikl [~mikl@0304ds2-ba.0.fullrate.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:06:07 *** mikl [~mikl@0304ds2-ba.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #openttd 07:14:50 *** mikl [~mikl@0304ds2-ba.0.fullrate.dk] has quit [Quit: mikl] 07:15:26 *** Osai`off is now known as Osai 07:20:53 *** Roest [~ralph@p54B9E135.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 07:21:01 <Roest> morning 07:23:22 <xkrchnav> good morning 07:24:37 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 07:26:15 <Alberth> good morning 07:28:11 <Roest> how are we this morning 07:32:02 <Alberth> quite nice, sun is shining, enjoying my days off, figured out that I should make a doc about intra-window comm so we can have a discussion. 07:32:16 <Alberth> only minor problem is lack of mail from FS 07:33:41 <Alberth> devs must be very busy with other things 07:34:26 <Roest> guess they have it a little slower after the stress of the last weeks 07:34:57 <Alberth> that is also part of 'other things' :) 07:35:57 <Roest> good thing is, with less commits, less problems to merge old patches :) 07:37:07 <Roest> though i must say, a little dev feedback on what needs to be done to get something at least considered for trunk would help every now and then 07:37:42 <Alberth> indeed. In my case, I want to stack a few patches on top of currently waiting patches. However I don't dare doing that without confidence that the current ones are ok 07:38:19 <Alberth> on the other hand, plenty of room for experimenting with next steps 07:42:24 *** mikl [~mikl@0304ds2-ba.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #openttd 07:44:37 <ln> Mayday! 07:54:27 *** Gekz [~brendan@121.218.75.100] has joined #openttd 07:57:51 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host193-232-dynamic.9-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 07:57:56 <Wolf01> hello 08:05:48 <Roest> hmm having twenty gazillion vehicle grfs might be nice, but i guess i just stick to one trainset 08:23:15 *** Osai is now known as Osai`off 08:27:42 *** Osai`off is now known as Osai 08:32:36 <peter1138> "primarily removes the fixed engine type limits" 08:32:38 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1E2E5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 08:32:51 <peter1138> "also happens to allow multiple NewGRF vehicle sets to coexist" 08:33:01 <Roest> wasn't a critique 08:33:05 <peter1138> i know 08:33:45 <Roest> just tested it, with several trainsets activated 08:33:53 <Roest> i can tell you it works tho 08:34:35 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-84-226-22-24.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 08:35:37 <Roest> morning Ammler, btw do you guys keep the grf pack updated somehow? 08:35:59 <Roest> or is 7.0 the final version 08:38:36 <peter1138> it's in svn, isn't it? 08:38:43 <peter1138> so you can svn up occasionally, heh 08:38:44 <Roest> oh is it 08:39:03 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@78-21-225-220.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 08:39:37 <Roest> http://www.tt-forums.net/download/file.php?id=90298 somehow my stations don't look so good 08:43:07 *** shodan [user@ppp101-219.static.internode.on.net] has joined #openttd 08:43:12 <peter1138> heh 08:44:20 <Alberth> I definitely need to play more with GRF files 08:46:14 <Roest> peter1138: they hid their svn url pretty well 08:46:29 <Roest> n/m found it 08:51:11 <Ammler> Roest: 7.1 is ready 08:51:21 <Ammler> it just needs releasing 08:52:00 <Roest> well i checked out from svn now 08:52:40 <Roest> i wonder if the german rv set will ever be released, that homepage leads to a 404 now 08:53:29 <Ammler> Roest: trunk won't be compatible with servers. 08:53:46 <Ammler> thats why we hide the trunk :-) 08:55:23 *** divo [~asd@x1-6-00-18-39-d3-e9-f6.k899.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 08:55:28 <Roest> so i just tested my patchpack and noticed a train driving on the wrong side, thought: great something broke yapp 08:55:55 <Roest> then i noticed it didnt even have a path to the right side, so everything is good now 08:56:02 <Roest> thought i share 08:59:03 *** wleader-away [wleader@twleader.plus.com] has joined #openttd 09:02:42 <wleader-away> Quick question, Who be the master of wiki.openttd.org? 09:03:01 *** wleader-away is now known as wleader 09:03:03 <Alberth> everybody probably 09:03:47 <wleader> well, yes. But I mean more along the lines of who administrates it. 09:06:52 <Progman> wleader: http://wiki.openttd.org/index.php/Special:Listusers -> select the Group "Sysops" 09:09:26 <wleader> Looks like the usual suspects. 09:10:22 <Roest> no surprise 09:10:50 *** Xeryus|bnc is now known as XeryusTC 09:11:23 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has joined #openttd 09:29:12 <Ammler> Roest: that stationtiles are still in working progress, you won't find them anywhere. 09:34:28 *** planetmaker_ [~chatzilla@Fcd09.f.ppp-pool.de] has joined #openttd 09:34:53 *** planetmaker_ [~chatzilla@Fcd09.f.ppp-pool.de] has quit [] 09:35:32 <peter1138> those 09:35:35 <peter1138> not that 09:36:07 <Roest> grammar sergeant peter1138 09:36:15 <peter1138> gah, stupid winamp 09:36:36 <peter1138> can't scroll its media library lists without clicking on each one first 09:37:16 <Roest> besides ammler is swiss, they haven't even decided on one language yet 09:37:51 *** shodan [user@ppp101-219.static.internode.on.net] has quit [Quit: Client Exiting] 09:38:00 <Ammler> we have added a 4. some years ago :-) 09:38:09 *** shodan [user@ppp101-219.static.internode.on.net] has joined #openttd 09:38:41 <Roest> i'm thinking about starting a new paxdest, but that task seems so huge, i rather sit here and do nothing 09:39:46 <Ammler> that would be the 4. one? 09:40:07 <Roest> i don't know, i only know the one we're using right now 09:41:14 <Roest> but i don't think anyone can fix the mutiplayer issues in the current one 09:43:10 <Ammler> prissi did the 2. almost a year ago 09:43:23 <peter1138> destinations needs to be done in stages 09:44:01 <peter1138> it also needs to be not passenger only 09:44:05 <Roest> yes peter1138 that's what i'm thinking, the current one is too big and overloaded with features 09:47:15 <Roest> step one would be generate the list of connected stations, though the question is limit destionations to connected stations, all stations or even all towns 09:51:29 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 10:03:05 <Ammler> omg that would be too much realistic, you would need to make the network for the cargo, not like now, where the cargo follows your network :-) 10:03:44 <peter1138> hmm? 10:03:56 <Ammler> new tiype of gameplay then. 10:03:57 <peter1138> it should of course be optional 10:04:15 <peter1138> no destinations, passenger destinations, and all cargo destinations 10:04:36 <peter1138> the current patches are way too strongly tied to passengers only 10:05:31 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1E2E5.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:05:36 <Ammler> same like ECS, more will be too complicated to play 10:05:51 <Roest> ecs is already too complicated imho 10:06:00 <peter1138> actually, 4 options 10:06:13 <peter1138> no destinations, passenger destinations, all non-freight cargo, and all cargo destinations 10:06:25 <peter1138> third includes mail and valuables 10:06:40 <peter1138> i think valuables anyway 10:06:51 <peter1138> ecs sucks ;) 10:06:55 <peter1138> pbi! 10:06:57 *** Volley [~worf@84.119.65.133] has joined #openttd 10:07:01 <Tefad> heh 10:07:17 <peter1138> ecs is way too complicated with its secret codes and such like 10:07:22 <peter1138> and the graphics don't fit in too well 10:07:27 <Tefad> secret codes? 10:07:32 <Ammler> indeed 10:07:49 <peter1138> in the industry view window 10:07:50 <Roest> non freight? i take it that passenges, mail and valuables? 10:08:04 <peter1138> Roest: yes, as i said 10:08:19 <Roest> oh missed that line 10:08:26 <Ammler> and tourists ;-) 10:08:55 <peter1138> no, they can go in the tanker wagons i reckon 10:09:10 <Roest> transport giant had an interesting approach, every town had a random list of other towns on the map where passengers want to go 10:09:33 <peter1138> that might be a simple solution 10:09:50 <Roest> but that wouldn't work with inner town transports 10:09:57 <peter1138> hm 10:10:10 <Roest> unless you divide them into commuters and travellers 10:10:23 <peter1138> do it on a per-station basis then, instead of per-town 10:12:09 <Ammler> Roest: I guess, prissi did something like this 10:13:11 <Onack> split them into travellers and workers :P 10:13:37 <Onack> workers within a city and travellers(eventually buissnessmen) to other cities 10:14:25 <Roest> actually i dislike that idea 10:14:36 <Ammler> I miss that "cargo-type" on the ECS scheme 10:14:57 <peter1138> just have more local traffic than long-range 10:15:05 <peter1138> could be a difficulty setting 10:15:24 <peter1138> otoh, local traffic is easier to transport but less profitable 10:17:18 <Onack> and a worker would never use a chopper or a concorde 10:17:47 <Roest> and a businessman never a bus 10:17:56 <Ammler> TAXI 10:17:57 <Onack> mm 10:18:21 <Ammler> that would push Roujins Traffic patch 10:19:03 <Onack> if this was possible it could also be smarter to have fewer but larger cities 10:19:43 <wleader> You can have fewer and larger cities by using minimum town distance, and adjusting town growth. 10:20:03 <Onack> i havent tested it mutch, thanks ill test it 10:20:35 <wleader> The town growth settings are in the trunk. Minimum town distance is not, but its a very simple patch that adjusts a constant. 10:20:42 <Onack> problem in large cities atm is that bus stations got 2000 passangers 10:21:18 <Ammler> Onack: TRAMS 10:21:27 <Onack> by dividing the people into classes 10:21:37 <Onack> you need different transportations for different classes 10:22:10 <Roest> ammler most trams dont solve that problem 10:22:28 <Roest> their capacities are too low compared to busses 10:22:39 <Ammler> with the new conditinal orders you can build really nice pass networks 10:22:44 <peter1138> that's what 'tourists' exist for, heh 10:23:23 <Onack> tourist is a class yes :) 10:23:29 *** trd [~trd@217-13-28-178.dd.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 10:23:39 <peter1138> wleader: nice warning :) 10:23:39 <Onack> but doesnt solve that everyone and their mother wants to use a helicopter 10:23:44 *** Slowpoke_ [~Lobster@dslb-088-073-204-137.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:24:17 <wleader> peter: On the wiki pages? 10:24:19 <peter1138> yah 10:24:38 <wleader> peter: Just trying to play nice. 10:26:14 <peter1138> i know 10:28:25 <Ammler> wleader: yorick reached to pack a MP save TS / YAPP combination 10:28:37 <peter1138> pardon? 10:28:46 <Ammler> safe 10:28:58 <peter1138> still doesn't make sense 10:28:58 <Ammler> thx ;-) 10:29:12 <Ammler> no? 10:29:12 *** Brianetta [~brian@87.224.34.62] has joined #openttd 10:29:34 <Ammler> we had desyncs with the civ 10:29:55 <Ammler> but no desyncs with yorick's patchpack 10:30:38 <wleader> I was just posting to the forum about the desyncs. and I looked back at IRC because I was going to ask if anyone had suggestions about how to debug desyncs. 10:35:04 *** cjk [~cjk@sovereign.computergmbh.de] has joined #openttd 10:36:12 <Ammler> is it possible to make a "nonGPLd" patch for OpenTTD? 10:36:38 <cjk> what you do with your .diff it does not matter 10:36:52 <Tefad> you can make a patch all day long 10:37:03 <Tefad> however if it isn't GPL it will not make it into trunk 10:37:22 <Alberth> and neither can you distribute it afaik 10:37:43 <Tefad> nah i think that's fine 10:37:56 <Tefad> it's just that users need to actively manipulate the source 10:38:00 <cjk> if patch means .diff then, as said, it's not that interesting; if it's an openttd patch (bad wording btw), something else applies 10:38:00 <Tefad> can't be done for them 10:38:16 <Tefad> maybe an automated process, but the patch can't be distributed inside trunk code 10:38:55 <Tefad> in other words, it'd be a royal ass-pain to have people use your patch 10:39:37 <Ammler> but you can take all patches published in tt-forums or fs as GPLd? 10:40:02 <Ammler> I mean the diffs :-) 10:40:38 <Alberth> I am not sure about this. For OpenTTD itself, you can distribute a binary, as long as you provide (a pointer) to the source. I think you can also distribute a patched version, as long as you give the patch in source form away too. 10:41:32 <Ammler> if you publish the source, then that means, its GPLd, doesn't? 10:41:33 <Tefad> no. 10:41:48 <Tefad> you cannot distribute a binary with a patch compiled in that isn't GPL 10:42:08 <Alberth> Ammler: I think you have to ask the authors explicitly, or have them sign a paper that they do. When you read GNU dev docs, they devote a large part of the administration to tracking who wrote/changed what. 10:42:15 <Roest> ammler there's a new version of the dutch tram set 10:42:15 <Tefad> you cannot distribute GPL code with non-gpl patches in-place 10:42:21 <Roest> newer* 10:42:44 <Ammler> Roest: for ottd now, too? 10:43:00 <Ammler> or do you mean rev23? 10:43:02 <Tefad> source code or machine/binary executable. 10:43:03 <Roest> i'm using that one, r20 for a while now 10:43:22 <Alberth> Ammler: no, MicroSoft could theoretically publish the source and have a license that forbids to use it unless you pay them 10:43:26 <Ammler> r20 will be in 7.1 10:43:29 <Roest> you still have r15 listed or is your html file just out of date 10:43:41 <cjk> Hm, what does "minimum cargo moved to station" in table/build_industry.h mean? 10:43:58 <Ammler> oh, well, possible that r20 is already in 7.0 10:44:38 <Roest> in the set i just checked out it is still r15 10:44:51 <Tefad> Ammler: the GPL is written in such a way that it is very difficult to contribute code without your contribution also being GPL code. 10:44:54 <Ammler> Alberth: I asked about OTTD diff 10:45:21 <Alberth> Formally, a patch has a GPL license when the author agrees to that 10:45:22 <Ammler> because there is no patch 10:45:35 <Ammler> which has written something about a license 10:45:52 <Tefad> why are you trying to not use the GPL for your patch? 10:46:09 <Ammler> huh? 10:46:20 <Alberth> In America that means lots of trouble 10:46:24 <Ammler> no, I am asking, if I am allowed to use others patches 10:46:53 <Roest> ammler i'm under the impression i can use everything posted on the forums 10:47:07 <Ammler> because wleader has something written about that in the rules for CIV 10:47:08 <trd> As far as I understand it, GPL says that if you use someone elses code, you have to leave a note that you took the code from them.. no? 10:47:17 <Ammler> and I am not sure, if that is really needed 10:47:24 <cjk> trd: no 10:47:34 <cjk> it's obvious you have to leave the ©s in though 10:47:41 <Roest> no one has sued me yet for putting their stuff into one pack 10:47:43 <Alberth> The question is whether published code is automatically GPL, I think not 10:48:21 <Alberth> euh s/code/diff/ 10:48:22 <Ammler> wleader: you should remove that paragraph then 10:51:38 <Tefad> no, if no license is expressed, it is assumed the owner retains full rights to the code 10:52:02 <Tefad> even if the owner is anonymous 10:53:16 <Ammler> Tefad: but if you publish your source on the forums, you would like others to use your patch, else it doesn't make sense... 10:53:42 <Alberth> why? Maybe I just want others to give comment on it 10:54:02 <Ammler> but then you need to write that 10:54:22 <Roest> actually i want others to put comments intomy code, so i dont have to do that 10:54:26 <Ammler> like some does in the readmes for GRFs 10:55:00 <Alberth> If I just publish a patch without comment whatsoever, you have no way of knowing 10:55:47 *** dR3x4cK [~Miranda@p5B11E1D6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 10:56:37 <Alberth> To get rid of legal trouble, you need explicit written permission I think. Then you can show the court hard proof. Anything electronic can too easily be modified, so it won't hold in court 10:57:44 <Alberth> not that I'd like a move in that direction though. 10:59:45 <cjk> git detection is broken in config.lib 11:01:11 *** dR3x4cK [~Miranda@p5B11E1D6.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: dR3x4cK] 11:08:28 <Roest> anyone here an expert with wxwidgets? 11:11:55 <cjk> me 11:11:57 <cjk> sort of 11:12:14 <Roest> woa 11:12:23 <Roest> didn't expect a positive answer :) 11:13:45 <Roest> ok here's the problem, uploading a screenshot now to explain it better 11:14:02 <Roest> http://stinfwww.informatik.uni-leipzig.de/~mai03gex/Bildschirmphoto1.png 11:14:25 <Roest> this is a wxframe with some sashlayoutwindows which hold the glwidgets 11:14:41 *** Frostregen_ [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-144-060.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 11:14:56 <Roest> my problem here is the propagation of the mouse events 11:15:43 <Roest> or the no propagation 11:18:28 <cjk> from the gl windows? 11:18:56 <Roest> well from the glwindows through the sashlayoutwindows to the frame where the eventhandler should be located 11:19:14 <cjk> I am not sure GL windows propagate anything by default 11:19:26 <cjk> I have not worked with GL inside WX though. 11:19:39 <Roest> mouseevents aren't propagated 11:20:03 <cjk> might try #wxwidgets on freenode 11:20:14 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:20:21 *** Frostregen [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-161-140.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:20:51 *** Frostregen_ is now known as Frostregen 11:27:01 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-143-96.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 11:29:56 *** gfldex [~dex@dslb-088-074-147-071.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 11:31:51 *** gfldex_ [~dex@dslb-088-075-231-103.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:33:00 <wleader> I just read the comments I missed, and thinking about it, how can a patch to GPL work not also be GPL, since the patch itself is a derived work? 11:34:22 <Gekz> wleader: because its not derived 11:35:13 <wleader> Gekz, I don't understand how that argument, but I would like to. 11:35:52 <Gekz> I don't understand your sentence, but I would like to. 11:37:05 <wleader> How is a patch not considered a derived work? 11:37:34 <cjk> Because a recipe is just not a derived work? 11:37:54 <wleader> I think authors of cook books might disagree. 11:38:18 <cjk> a patch is basically instructions how to change which lines 11:38:48 <wleader> cjk: so it is not a modified version, just instructions on how to modify. 11:40:26 <cjk> i'd say so 11:40:37 <cjk> unless the diff is so big you see all the code 11:42:18 *** Chrill [~chrischri@c80-216-64-31.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #openttd 11:42:28 <Chrill> Why does my trains, when entering the depot, STAY there? :P 11:42:40 <Chrill> Have I hit some weird setting or is this a new bug in 0.6.1 RC1? 11:43:38 *** Osai is now known as Osai^city 11:45:59 <cjk> you sent them to the depot? 11:46:11 <Chrill> No, they only enter for servicing 11:46:50 <Chrill> Only happens to one train model as well, may I add 11:49:20 <Roest> do you have autoreplace on? 11:50:04 <Roest> and as always with such things, a savegame would be nice 11:56:26 *** sickie88 [~sickie@89.143.130.66] has joined #openttd 12:00:45 <Chrill> The AM2 of the UK trainset was replaced with Am10s. The auto-replace didn't wanna do this so I had to myself. Now, the Am10s enter the depot and stay there, as if I ordered them to 12:01:00 <Chrill> Think it's the GRF playing around, nothin else 12:01:55 <Chrill> tryin to send all to depot, then let em all go 12:01:57 <Chrill> hope it'll solve it 12:08:45 <Chrill> neh.. 12:09:20 *** Chrill [~chrischri@c80-216-64-31.bredband.comhem.se] has quit [] 12:19:39 *** Osai^city is now known as Osai^city`off 12:26:21 *** yorick [~yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 12:37:02 *** Roest [~ralph@p54B9E135.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:44:28 *** sickie88 [~sickie@89.143.130.66] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:56:27 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 12:56:30 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 13:08:18 <cjk> heh, "OpenTTD g9c620225" 13:08:41 <glx> a git user :) 13:09:11 <peter1138> useful 13:09:28 <yorick> @openttd commit g9c620225 13:09:28 <DorpsGek> yorick: Invalid arguments for _commit. 13:09:31 <yorick> :( 13:10:45 <Belugas> joy indeed 13:11:18 <Gekz> o.,o 13:15:04 *** Gekz [~brendan@121.218.75.100] has quit [Quit: leaving] 13:15:51 *** Gekz [~brendan@121.218.75.100] has joined #openttd 13:29:16 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:39:57 *** Zahl [~Zahl@p549F1F91.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 13:45:48 <Belugas> # WHERE IS EVERYBODY?? 13:45:57 <yorick> EVERYBODY's dead 13:48:53 <Tefad> lol 13:50:18 <Ammler> what error could it be if the server just exit, but no assert or sec fault? 13:50:46 <peter1138> user error 13:51:01 <peter1138> rcon <password> "quit" 13:51:28 <Ammler> how do you mean "user error"? 13:51:32 <glx> or ctrl-c in the wrong screen 13:52:04 <Ammler> if someone does rcon, I would see that on the console 13:52:45 *** Volley [~worf@84.119.65.133] has quit [] 13:53:02 <Ammler> ctrl-c would close the screen and you wouldn't see the output anymore 13:53:35 <Ammler> no 13:53:36 <peter1138> ctrl-c would dump you to the parent shell 13:53:40 <peter1138> if you had one 13:57:53 <Ammler> well, we start ottd with autopilot/expect, so ctrl-c would just break that 13:58:28 <glx> maybe autopilot exited by itself then 13:58:49 <glx> happened before 14:01:14 <Ammler> glx: can you remember why? 14:01:23 <glx> no, sorry 14:02:42 *** mindlesstux [~mindlesst@2001:470:88e0:53a:250:2cff:fe07:ff2c] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:08:30 *** Brianetta [~brian@87.224.34.62] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 14:14:31 *** wleader [wleader@twleader.plus.com] has quit [] 14:15:45 *** KritiK_ [~Maxim@78.107.163.221] has joined #openttd 14:18:48 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-143-96.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:18:59 *** KritiK_ is now known as KritiK 14:27:40 *** xkrchnav [~xkrchnav@ro-chr.netdatacomm.cz] has quit [] 14:29:24 *** shodan [user@ppp101-219.static.internode.on.net] has quit [Quit: Client Exiting] 14:38:36 *** Phoenix_the_II [rdeboom@home.deboom.biz] has joined #openttd 14:43:13 *** Digitalfox_Home [~chatzilla@bl7-182-170.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.81 [Firefox 2.0.0.14/2008040413]] 14:44:13 *** KritiK_ [~Maxim@78-106-153-98.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 14:48:46 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78.107.163.221] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:48:53 *** KritiK_ is now known as KritiK 14:55:44 *** `Ka [~teab0y@79-77-232-1.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 14:55:51 <`Ka> Afternoon everyone 14:56:27 <`Ka> I don't spose anyone with some knowledge would mind taking 5minutes out to help me get my head round the 32bpp stuff and the instalation? thanks 14:56:28 <Sacro> Hi 14:57:35 *** dR3x4cK [~Miranda@p5B11FCA9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:02:14 <peter1138> well, good luck finding a complete 32bpp pack 15:04:27 *** Digitalfox [~Digitalfo@bl7-182-170.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 15:05:01 <Digitalfox> Good afternoon :) 15:07:51 <`Ka> lol 15:07:53 <`Ka> ye just looking 15:08:18 <`Ka> ah well, soon i imagine 15:08:25 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1E2E5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:11:31 *** dR3x4cK [~Miranda@p5B11FCA9.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: dR3x4cK] 15:13:20 *** KritiK_ [~Maxim@78.107.167.144] has joined #openttd 15:18:35 *** wgrant [~wgrant@c122-108-27-22.eburwd9.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:18:46 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-153-98.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:18:46 *** KritiK_ is now known as KritiK 15:19:51 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has joined #openttd 15:22:57 *** BiGgOvDoInThAnGs [gov@d60-65-117-129.col.wideopenwest.com] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )] 15:25:53 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 15:27:07 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@78-21-225-220.access.telenet.be] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:29:05 *** KritiK_ [~Maxim@93-80-144-91.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 15:30:48 *** Zuu [~Zuu@c-363c71d5.025-58-6e6b702.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 15:34:49 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78.107.167.144] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:34:54 *** mikegrb is now known as mikegrbfails 15:34:59 *** KritiK_ is now known as KritiK 15:37:59 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@78-21-225-220.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 15:38:08 * Belugas thinks about adding some logs on music_gui and such 15:38:27 <Belugas> kind of getting tiresome to hear "my music is not playing" blablabla 15:39:26 * DaleStan thinks it failed to put the gm folder in the correct location. Or it thought "gm folder" meant "gm.cat". 15:40:33 <Sacro> why isn't there gm.cat usage? 15:42:10 <peter1138> because we don't have a built-in midi player 15:47:48 <`Ka> just put a few hundred mp3s in winamp before youplay? 15:49:36 *** Fiddler [~Fiddler@213.219.152.19.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net] has joined #openttd 15:49:49 <Belugas> because, strangely, there are people who want the original music 15:50:06 * Belugas agrees with DaleStan, btw 15:55:38 <Belugas> lol ---> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=37409 15:55:51 <Belugas> like... not understanding a thing at all 15:56:23 *** GoneWacko [GoneWacko@86-60-155-109-dyn-dsl.ssp.fi] has joined #openttd 15:57:39 <`Ka> why should that not be possible 15:58:13 <`Ka> just replace the monorail maglev skins sets with rail vehicle skins, and reskin the monorail and maglev tracks to railways, and there you go 15:58:41 <Belugas> mostly because it's not only skin... 15:59:30 <`Ka> what else? 15:59:46 <`Ka> i dont know anything abotu this im not going to pretend i do, interested though 15:59:51 <Belugas> and because the whole engine is really a replacement, and not just an addition. The system can tell if it is replacing the vehicle or just adding a new one based on the original 15:59:53 <peter1138> hehe 16:00:02 <peter1138> but there's already a grf to enable the original vehicles 16:00:41 <`Ka> so he has underestimated the system rather than requesting something that isn't yet possible? 16:01:07 <Belugas> not underestimate. not understanding it at all 16:01:41 <Belugas> if the grf creator decided that his engine 1 replaces original engine 1, that's not up to us to make it otherwise 16:02:08 <Belugas> same goes with newhouses, newindustries and all 16:03:54 <`Ka> i see 16:04:58 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@78-21-225-220.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 16:06:42 <Digitalfox> It's harder to play with ECS.. Industries are always complaining of bad service When they have a 67% of service :p 16:16:40 <Belugas> # Brown Sugar! 16:30:28 <Belugas> LUNCH TIME 16:30:32 <Belugas> late... 16:51:54 *** HerzogDeXtE1 [~Flex@89.246.182.53] has joined #openttd 16:54:44 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:56:44 *** mikl [~mikl@0304ds2-ba.0.fullrate.dk] has quit [Quit: mikl] 16:58:08 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.191.213] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:58:33 *** mikl [~mikl@0304ds2-ba.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #openttd 17:19:32 *** mikegrbfails is now known as mikegrb 17:23:58 *** mikl [~mikl@0304ds2-ba.0.fullrate.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:24:19 *** dR3x4cK [~Miranda@p5B11C458.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:25:24 *** dR3x4cK [~Miranda@p5B11C458.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 17:34:12 *** christian_ [~christian@pD9E5EE86.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:43:21 *** LeviathNL [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 17:50:46 *** mikl [~mikl@0304ds2-ba.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #openttd 17:53:45 *** Leviath [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:53:45 *** LeviathNL [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:00:18 *** D3vilBM [~D3vilBM@92.114.73.224] has joined #openttd 18:00:44 *** D3vilBM [~D3vilBM@92.114.73.224] has left #openttd [] 18:01:14 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 18:14:29 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has joined #openttd 18:17:45 <Eddi|zuHause2> damn i am tired... 18:19:23 <peter1138> sleep 18:27:35 <Eddi|zuHause2> <peter1138> no destinations, passenger destinations, all non-freight cargo, and all cargo destinations <- the third category should also contain all town-based cargos [goods, food, whatevernewgrfcargostheycancomeupwith] 18:28:11 <Digitalfox> My head is going to explode.. Too much ECS connecting everything.. *Note to himself next time don't choose so many ECS at the same time.. :p 18:39:25 <Eddi|zuHause2> <Ammler> is it possible to make a "nonGPLd" patch for OpenTTD? <- it's very hard to do a patch that does not qualify as a "derived work" [if only for the context lines] or especially "links to", from that point, the GPL states you have to put it under GPL, too, if you distribute it, otherwise you violate the GPL license of openttd 18:39:42 *** sickie88 [~sickie@89.143.130.66] has joined #openttd 18:40:06 <Belugas> hu? nonGPLed patch? 18:40:07 <Belugas> funny 18:40:39 <Eddi|zuHause2> where the term "distribute" is a bit problematic... in german law, "distributing" can only be involving physical objects (books, CDs, ...), sending electronically can only be "reproducing" or "copying" 18:42:33 <Ammler> from my sight, every patch of ottd in tt-forums is automatically GPLd 18:42:56 <Belugas> i would agree too 18:43:24 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-88-27.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:43:35 *** Leviath [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 18:44:03 <Eddi|zuHause2> yes, but a pedantic court might catch on the fact that the license was not explicitly stated 18:44:37 <Eddi|zuHause2> PS: by german law, "author" can only be a natural person, not a legal entity [like a company] 18:44:57 <Eddi|zuHause2> [or "the ottd team"] 18:45:34 *** Brianetta [~brian@77-103-231-158.cable.ubr05.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 18:51:21 <cjk> still debating ... 18:52:31 <Eddi|zuHause2> no, i'm just warming up hour old discussions ;) 18:52:55 <yorick> huh? discussions? where? 18:53:18 <Eddi|zuHause2> the "/mode +b yorick" ones 18:56:18 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-88-27.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 19:06:35 *** Leviath [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:06:49 *** Leviath [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 19:42:58 <Wolf01> uh... "good" local authority rating and I can blow up houses but roads are untouchable 19:43:23 <Eddi|zuHause2> patch setting 19:43:27 <Wolf01> no 19:43:33 <Eddi|zuHause2> yes 19:43:36 <Wolf01> no 19:43:38 <Eddi|zuHause2> yes 19:43:45 <Wolf01> doesn't work! 19:43:47 <yorick> cheat 19:44:38 *** `Ka [~teab0y@79-77-232-1.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [] 19:51:23 <Belugas> Wolf01, can you trace back which rev you could? 19:51:25 <Belugas> if ever... 19:51:29 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-84-226-22-24.adslplus.ch] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:51:35 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-84-226-22-24.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 19:51:43 <Belugas> *with* 19:52:27 <Wolf01> r12919, I'm waiting for other bugfixing before update the nightly 19:52:59 <peter1138> well that's already fixed 19:53:43 <peter1138> @openttd commit 12920 19:53:44 <DorpsGek> peter1138: Commit by smatz :: r12920 trunk/src/town_cmd.cpp (2008-04-29 18:08:14 UTC) 19:53:45 <DorpsGek> peter1138: -Fix (r12859): town rating was affected even after the test run 19:54:56 *** raimar3 [~hawk@p5489D333.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:55:02 <Wolf01> eh, a description of what noticeable bugs which a commit fixes... 19:57:34 <Belugas> ? 19:58:22 <Wolf01> "fix: cannot remove town roads because test run affected town rating" 19:59:54 *** raimar2 [~hawk@p5489D060.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:00:48 <peter1138> *shrug* 20:00:50 <Wolf01> I can wait a bugfix for the eternity until somebody tell me that the bug is already fixed, because I usually read about bugs fixed, not how the code (doesn't) work 20:01:12 <peter1138> if you're in the mood for waiting for bug fixes, you shouldn't be using trunk 20:02:40 <Belugas> Wolf01, the commit message is fine as it is. It describe exactly the problem. You want to have the effect reflected 20:02:44 <Belugas> not the same stuff 20:03:18 <Belugas> plus, do you know how difficult it is to write a decent commit meesage? sometimes, it takes longer than the patch itself :P 20:04:10 <Prof_Frink> Nonsense. 20:04:21 <Prof_Frink> r1842: Fixed stuff. 20:04:27 *** christian_ [~christian@pD9E5EE86.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: christian_] 20:04:44 <Prof_Frink> r7294: Added features. 20:05:44 <Belugas> so easy to critisize... 20:06:19 <peter1138> r5123: Fix that bug Wolf01 is having but didn't tell anyone 20:10:52 *** yorick [~yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Quit: rray!] 20:11:23 <Tefad> how often do you guys tell people certain behaviors aren't bugs at all but are in fact features? 20:12:35 <Belugas> VERY oftenly thank you 20:12:35 *** mikl [~mikl@0304ds2-ba.0.fullrate.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:13:08 <Belugas> and often, is it escalading into words fighting 20:17:32 *** mikl [~mikl@0304ds2-ba.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #openttd 20:18:37 <peter1138> but nobody forks 20:18:42 * peter1138 points at pidgin 20:19:09 <Belugas> :) 20:20:01 <Prof_Frink> peter1138: No, that's nobody forking cares 20:21:38 * Belugas forks Prof_Frink 20:22:11 <Eddi|zuHause2> real men don't fork, they spoon :p 20:22:46 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B83143.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:23:51 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B83CAA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 20:23:54 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 20:24:21 *** Pinchiukas [~lox@212.122.90.186] has joined #openttd 20:25:04 <Pinchiukas> is there a setting that allows me to see the price of doing anything before actually doing it? 20:25:36 <Wolf01> shift 20:25:56 <Pinchiukas> :) 20:25:58 <Pinchiukas> thanks 20:27:57 <Belugas> Eddi|zuHause2, keep your spoon, i'll use my fork -> http://dsjw.en.alibaba.com/product/50165097/50949970/Forks/Fork/showimg.html 20:28:50 *** Pinchiukas_ [~lox@212.122.90.186] has joined #openttd 20:29:10 <Belugas> or that one even :D -> http://www.farmshow.com/issues/images/250206.jpg 20:32:15 *** Pinchiukas__ [~lox@212.122.90.186] has joined #openttd 20:32:15 *** Pinchiukas_ [~lox@212.122.90.186] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:32:50 *** Pinchiukas [~lox@212.122.90.186] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:38:10 *** Osai^city`off is now known as Osai 20:43:09 <Wolf01> night 20:43:18 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host193-232-dynamic.9-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 20:50:36 *** divo [~asd@x1-6-00-18-39-d3-e9-f6.k899.webspeed.dk] has quit [Quit: Quitting] 20:53:27 *** wolfryu [~Wolfenste@dhcp-077-250-023-072.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 20:56:41 *** wolfy [~Wolfenste@dhcp-077-250-023-072.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:56:50 *** Pinchiukas_ [~lox@212.122.90.186] has joined #openttd 20:57:34 *** Pinchiukas__ [~lox@212.122.90.186] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:57:54 *** wolfryu [~Wolfenste@dhcp-077-250-023-072.chello.nl] has quit [] 21:08:36 *** wolfy [~Wolfenste@dhcp-077-250-023-072.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 21:10:04 *** Pinchiukas__ [~lox@212.122.90.186] has joined #openttd 21:11:52 *** Pinchiukas_ [~lox@212.122.90.186] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:14:54 *** Pinchiukas [~lox@212.122.90.186] has joined #openttd 21:14:54 *** Pinchiukas__ [~lox@212.122.90.186] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:25:10 *** Pinchiukas_ [~lox@212.122.90.186] has joined #openttd 21:25:10 *** Pinchiukas [~lox@212.122.90.186] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:39:58 *** KritiK_ [~Maxim@78.107.166.170] has joined #openttd 21:44:15 *** Pinchiukas__ [~lox@212.122.90.186] has joined #openttd 21:44:49 *** KritiK [~Maxim@93-80-144-91.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:44:59 *** KritiK_ is now known as KritiK 21:45:41 <Sacro> openttd > women eh lol 21:46:00 *** Pinchiukas_ [~lox@212.122.90.186] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:46:16 *** welshdragon [~xchat@host86-144-6-100.range86-144.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 21:46:23 *** lolman [~john@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 21:46:29 <welshdragon> hmmm 21:46:56 <welshdragon> is there a port of openttd for the psp? 21:47:17 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@86.89.201.189] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 21:50:13 <Digitalfox> what exactly does this mean that george said about ECS paremeters? 21:50:14 <Digitalfox> bit 0=1 + bit 1=1 + bit 2=1 = 7 21:50:37 <Digitalfox> So switch 1 1 1 isn't right? 21:53:37 *** sickie88 [~sickie@89.143.130.66] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:55:22 <glx> the "difficulty" parameter? 21:55:48 <Belugas> not at all, Digitalfox 21:55:54 <Belugas> it's a bit map stuff 21:55:59 *** lolman [~john@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:56:08 <Digitalfox> So what is the right order or numbers? :\ 21:56:11 <Belugas> bit 0 = 1 , so value = 1 21:56:20 <Belugas> bit 1 = 1, so value = 2 21:56:30 <Belugas> bit 2 = 1, so value = 4 21:56:41 *** Pinchiukas_ [~lox@212.122.90.186] has joined #openttd 21:56:46 <Digitalfox> Oh so 1 2 4 is the right switch :) 21:56:46 <Belugas> bit 0,1,2 = 1 each, so value = 7 21:56:53 <Belugas> naaaaaaaaaa 21:57:02 <Belugas> right switch = 7 21:57:08 <glx> difficulty param is the latest param (you need to put all others param even with default values before it) 21:57:11 <Belugas> beacuse it is 1 + 2 + 4 21:57:34 *** Pinchiukas__ [~lox@212.122.90.186] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:57:48 <Belugas> ehehe i scared him! 21:58:10 *** Pinchiukas_ [~lox@212.122.90.186] has quit [] 21:58:17 <Digitalfox> No I just don't get why I didn't understood this in the sec I read it.. .( 21:58:22 <Digitalfox> :( 21:58:37 *** lolEee [~john@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 21:58:42 <Digitalfox> Thank you Belugas + Glx :) 21:59:03 *** NukeBuster [~NukeBuste@a62-251-21-79.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 22:00:02 <welshdragon> lolEee, OHNOES 22:00:09 <lolEee> Lies 22:00:28 <Belugas> maybe because you do not play around with bits and bytes everyday, Digitalfox 22:00:40 <Belugas> and me, i go home 22:00:48 <glx> you're late 22:01:18 <Belugas> yeah... 22:01:23 <Belugas> fucking debuig session 22:01:27 <Belugas> bye 22:04:39 *** christian_ [~christian@pD9E5EE86.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 22:07:32 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1E2E5.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:25:27 *** wgrant [~wgrant@c122-108-27-22.eburwd9.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 22:29:44 *** sickie88 [~sickie@89.143.130.66] has joined #openttd 22:35:05 *** GoneWacko [GoneWacko@86-60-155-109-dyn-dsl.ssp.fi] has quit [Quit: You will never be the man your mother was!] 22:35:56 *** Osai is now known as Osai`off 22:49:21 *** Brianetta [~brian@77-103-231-158.cable.ubr05.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:50:10 *** Brianetta [~brian@77-103-231-158.cable.ubr05.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 22:52:26 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: glx * r12933 /trunk/src/industry_cmd.cpp: -Fix: minor errors related to industries accepted/produced cargo 22:54:01 *** KritiK_ [~Maxim@78-106-138-237.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 22:59:49 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78.107.166.170] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:59:59 *** KritiK_ is now known as KritiK 23:09:17 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:09:36 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:29:44 *** sickie88 [~sickie@89.143.130.66] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:33:24 *** Digitalfox [~Digitalfo@bl7-182-170.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:40:44 *** Digitalfox_Home [~chatzilla@bl7-182-170.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 23:46:29 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-138-237.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:48:12 *** sunkan [sunkan@sunkan.bsnet.se] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 23:51:25 *** sunkan [sunkan@sunkan.bsnet.se] has joined #openttd