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00:11:24 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-82-26-69-27.bmly.adsl.virgin.net] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 00:20:13 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@161-18-80-78.strcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:21:11 *** nekx [~asd@0x3e42e6e6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:21:47 *** Korenn [~kvirc@93-125-161-18.dsl.alice.nl] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 3.4.0 Virgo http://www.kvirc.net/] 00:22:05 *** rortom [~rortom_@5acfc1f1.bb.sky.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:28:13 <Char> hmmm 00:28:29 <Char> lots of people leaving 00:28:54 <Aali> its getting late 00:30:11 <Sacro> election night 00:32:50 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77D64.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 00:33:23 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77D6E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 00:37:01 <Char> hmmm 00:37:10 <Char> but will be a long election night. 00:42:17 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@145-118-111-36.fttx.bbned.nl] has quit [Quit: Caught sigterm, terminating...] 00:50:25 <benjamingoodger> agh 00:50:42 <benjamingoodger> the university of kent anime society has become consumed by a debate about the election 00:50:46 <benjamingoodger> it's not even our damned election! 00:51:24 <benjamingoodger> and it's an anime society! 00:51:26 <thingwath> :-) 00:52:35 <thingwath> I haven't noticed any debate about the elections 00:52:39 <thingwath> well, except this one 00:55:38 <benjamingoodger> I am arguing with what must be the UK's only mccain supporter 00:55:52 <Sacro> mmmcian 00:56:02 <benjamingoodger> he says that obama is a useless flip-flopper and mccain is the only one with the guts to do anything once elected 00:56:10 <benjamingoodger> I disagree 00:56:25 <Sacro> mccain will just go blow up the gooks 00:56:33 <benjamingoodger> I say that mccain has sold out his values by courting the religious right, and that palin is a monstrous hack 00:56:46 <Sacro> i'd do palin 00:57:00 <benjamingoodger> palin is "a ludicrous, contemptable figure", says a BBC analyst :D 00:57:17 <benjamingoodger> I do love the BBC at times --- it is simultaneously the worst and best broadcasting institution in the world 00:57:45 <thingwath> that would be easy, if it were the only one 00:57:55 <benjamingoodger> yeah 00:58:01 <benjamingoodger> it manages despite being one of hundreds :D 00:58:01 <Sacro> http://maps.google.com/help/maps/elections/#2008_election 00:58:19 <benjamingoodger> ah, cool, thanks Sacro! I owe you a drink 00:58:55 <Sacro> ooh 00:58:57 <Sacro> i have more links :p 00:59:06 <Sacro> http://hosted.ap.org/specials/election_night_2008/election_map_premium/index.html?SITE=MASPDELN 00:59:43 <thingwath> it's scary, more than our regional elections few weeks ago 01:00:02 <Sacro> TEN SECONDS CHAPS 01:00:05 <Sacro> BRACE YOURSELVES 01:00:41 <Sacro> :D 01:00:50 <benjamingoodger> Sacro: you only get one drink, I'm not made of money 01:00:56 <Sacro> :( 01:01:02 <Sacro> where abouts in the UK are you@? 01:01:15 <benjamingoodger> cornwall 01:01:29 <benjamingoodger> but I'll be in kent from september next year 01:01:35 <Sacro> ah 01:01:36 <benjamingoodger> university woot 01:01:38 <Sacro> daaaaaaarn saaaaaaaaaarth 01:01:48 <benjamingoodger> er, quite 01:01:55 <benjamingoodger> daun sooth. 01:02:15 <benjamingoodger> yourself? 01:02:29 <Sacro> 'ull 01:03:37 <benjamingoodger> ah 01:04:00 <benjamingoodger> I've never been there 01:04:12 <benjamingoodger> but I've studied the erosion of the region's coastline in geography ^^ 01:06:38 <benjamingoodger> hmm 01:06:39 <benjamingoodger> interesting 01:06:41 <benjamingoodger> for SC... 01:06:50 <benjamingoodger> AP is calling south carolina for mccain 01:07:00 <benjamingoodger> but obama has a majority of the votes! 01:07:25 <benjamingoodger> and a 3:1 ratio of districts/counties/whatever 01:09:31 <thingwath> huhm 01:10:52 <Sacro> lol 01:11:31 <Sacro> yeah, the sea is noming our costline 01:12:01 <thingwath> luckily we don't have any 01:12:43 <Sacro> hmm 01:12:49 <Sacro> is there a czech navy? 01:13:17 <thingwath> No. :-) 01:13:26 <Sacro> mmm 01:13:31 * Sacro plans an invasion by boat 01:13:53 <thingwath> interesting idea 01:15:22 <benjamingoodger> heh 01:15:32 <benjamingoodger> ok, obama has the following: 01:16:09 <benjamingoodger> maine, vermont, mass., connecticut, new jersey, delaware, maryland, DC and illinois 01:16:20 <benjamingoodger> 78 votes so far. 01:17:51 <Sacro> NJ? 01:17:56 <Sacro> i see it blue 01:18:01 <Sacro> but 0% have returned 01:18:08 <benjamingoodger> yes 01:18:13 <benjamingoodger> AP have called it for obama anyway 01:18:39 <benjamingoodger> I'll let you know if it changes --- according to fivethirtyeight there is a 0% chance of this 01:19:26 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:21:16 *** roboboy [3aad2910@webchat.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 01:23:12 <benjamingoodger> obama has new hampshire 01:23:56 <thingwath> our local newspapers are very optimistic about obama, lala 01:24:53 <mikegrb> nj is die hard blue 01:25:03 * mikegrb kisses the nj ground beneath his feat 01:25:05 <mikegrb> ! 01:25:09 <mikegrb> s/feat/feet/ 01:26:17 <thingwath> how many browser crashes this night... 01:28:10 <benjamingoodger> s/browser/IIS/ 01:28:51 <thingwath> I don't have any IIS. :-) 01:29:37 <thingwath> but my browser doesn't like flash graphics, much :-/ 01:31:28 <benjamingoodger> mmm 01:31:35 <benjamingoodger> I refer to microsoft's http server 01:31:41 <benjamingoodger> it is incompetently engineered 01:31:56 <benjamingoodger> and therefore likely to crash where used to serve election data on popular sites 01:32:39 <thingwath> Server: Oracle-Application-Server-10g/10.1.3.1.0 Oracle-HTTP-Server OracleAS-Web-Cache-10g/10.1.2.3.0 01:32:56 <thingwath> (http://volby.cz/index_en.htm) 01:33:05 <thingwath> and did crash so many times... :-) 01:33:57 <Sacro> hmm 01:34:01 <Sacro> 101% in texas 01:34:04 <Sacro> 50/50 R/D 01:34:07 <Sacro> and 1% O 01:34:14 <SmatZ> flawless victory 01:34:23 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-214-41.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:34:31 <benjamingoodger> hmm 01:34:38 <benjamingoodger> mccain appears to have won TX though 01:34:51 <benjamingoodger> by 9500 votes... 01:37:05 <benjamingoodger> oh, it's now 30000 01:37:33 <SmatZ> it will be interesting if McCain wins 01:37:44 <benjamingoodger> he won't win 01:37:54 <benjamingoodger> obama might win texas, though......that would just be disturbing 01:37:57 <glx> GW didn't win 01:37:57 <thingwath> who knows :-) 01:38:04 <SmatZ> :) 01:38:13 <benjamingoodger> texas voting for democrats... 01:38:22 <Char> TX? what is TX? texas? 01:38:29 <benjamingoodger> yes 01:38:38 <Char> which site are you checking at? 01:38:48 <Char> cause i use a german news site which might be lagging behind 01:39:05 <benjamingoodger> AP, Google, BBC, FiveThirtyEight.com 01:39:05 <Char> and, another question: whom did you vote for? :P 01:39:25 <benjamingoodger> I live on Great Britain, I'm not allowed to vote in US elections 01:39:44 <benjamingoodger> though I would have voted for obama, naturally 01:40:02 <SmatZ> why? 01:40:26 <benjamingoodger> erm... 01:40:46 <benjamingoodger> because I prefer his policies? 01:40:59 <benjamingoodger> I am also disgusted by the mccain campaign's conduct 01:41:06 <SmatZ> I don't like showmen... and from what I saw, both are showmen... so neither is good for me :) 01:41:06 <benjamingoodger> and sarah palin is a horrifying woman 01:42:11 <SmatZ> thanks for answer 01:42:14 <Eddi|zuHause> 95% of the people in this channel are not eligible to vote in an US election... 01:42:27 <benjamingoodger> surely more than that 01:42:28 <benjamingoodger> :D 01:42:30 <Char> mikegrb seems to be american 01:42:35 <Char> but i guess he voted obama 01:43:01 <Char> i thought there might be a majority of americans online at the moment 01:43:04 <Char> looking at the time 01:43:26 <thingwath> don't think so :-) 01:43:57 <Eddi|zuHause> americans are not as train crazy as the europeans :) 01:44:07 <SmatZ> hehe 01:44:11 <Eddi|zuHause> the majority in here traditionally is british, german and dutch 01:44:19 * mikegrb nods 01:44:33 <mikegrb> amerikans are poorly represented in all things choochoo 01:45:40 <benjamingoodger> :) 01:46:17 <benjamingoodger> I think perhaps the US has less tendency to amarac 01:46:21 * mikegrb is fortunate to have a 1" scale 7.5" gauge rail park 15 minutes from his house though 01:46:39 <benjamingoodger> ooh, cool 01:46:41 <mikegrb> http://www.jerseyshorelivesteam.com/SJLSatwork.html 01:46:46 <thingwath> and some real railway? :-) 01:46:49 <mikegrb> I just discovered it recently 01:46:55 <mikegrb> well that's the bad thing 01:47:00 <benjamingoodger> thingwath: don't be silly 01:47:08 <SmatZ> actually I don't understand why media here are so interested in US elections... whoever wins, not much will change for us 01:47:09 <mikegrb> I moved and I get this fake trains nearby 01:47:11 <mikegrb> but no real ones 01:47:29 <mikegrb> though the sttate does have some commuter trains and I do use them sometimes when going to nyc 01:47:36 <Eddi|zuHause> with bush out of the picture, it can only get better... 01:47:39 <benjamingoodger> SmatZ: well, my country will withdraw from this massive and debilitating war in Iraq 01:47:54 <SmatZ> haha nice little train :) 01:48:01 <Char> SmatZ: well i think in the long run it does affect us 01:48:23 <Eddi|zuHause> he was clearly the worst president of the US since <who remembers this guy before Lincoln?> 01:48:46 <SmatZ> benjamingoodger: don't both candidates want to leave Iraq in ~3-4 years? can you trust them? 01:49:22 <benjamingoodger> SmatZ: mccain wants to withdraw by 2013 01:49:27 <benjamingoodger> palin wants to WIN 01:49:39 <benjamingoodger> obama, I think, wants to leave as soon as possible 01:50:08 <Eddi|zuHause> neither "win" nor "soon" are realistic in iraq... 01:50:10 <SmatZ> benjamingoodger: it will be interesting how the war will continue in reality 01:50:12 <benjamingoodger> we shouldn't trust anyone, but we have to trust someone... 01:50:26 <Eddi|zuHause> they'll have to put up with that problem for the next 20 to 40 years... 01:50:31 <benjamingoodger> hmmmm 01:50:39 <benjamingoodger> I think the iraqis will 01:50:45 <benjamingoodger> the US may not have to for much longer 01:50:51 <benjamingoodger> the war may last only ten years 01:51:07 <thingwath> that model engine has only two powered axles? 01:51:21 <benjamingoodger> but if palin's in charge (which she might be, if mccain dies, poor old man) then we're fucked, if you'll pardon the expression 01:51:40 <Char> great, the voting stops in five hours in california, but the election might already be a safe bet by then 01:51:54 <Char> alaska is even worse 01:51:57 <benjamingoodger> Char: it's a safe bet now. california's just a formality :D 01:52:04 <Char> ends in nine hours 01:52:24 <Eddi|zuHause> i thought california was as democratic as it gets :p 01:52:29 <Char> it is 01:52:29 <thingwath> alaska has three votes, unlikely to change anything 01:52:35 <Char> yeah i know 01:52:36 <Char> still 01:52:37 <Char> weird 01:52:42 <Char> thats like 01:52:43 <benjamingoodger> the tipping point seems to be florida (currently 51.3% obama) and virginia (53.5%) 01:52:53 <Char> "obama is president for sure. whom do you want to vote for?" 01:53:01 <Char> i mean 01:53:04 <Eddi|zuHause> i think it's more weird that the americans can get away with doing an election on a weekday 01:53:04 <benjamingoodger> yeah 01:53:07 <Char> if obama gets florida.... 01:53:08 <Char> well 01:53:18 <benjamingoodger> if obama gets florida he has practically won 01:53:21 <Char> then the race is pretty much over 01:53:31 <benjamingoodger> if mccain gets it, obama is likely to still win 01:53:31 <thingwath> I'm hungry :-) 01:53:37 <Eddi|zuHause> if gore had won florida, he'd have won, too... 01:53:41 <benjamingoodger> if obama gets virginia, mccain needs florida to win 01:53:42 <Char> i guess obama will be partying before the last voters vote. 01:53:52 <benjamingoodger> well 01:53:58 <benjamingoodger> they don't actually need everyone to vote 01:54:09 <Char> i know 01:54:11 <Char> still, its weird 01:54:24 <benjamingoodger> if obama gets 271 electoral votes, it doesn't matter how many mccain gets after that 01:54:28 <Eddi|zuHause> <Char> i guess obama will be partying before the last voters vote. <- do you remember how they tried that in germany? 01:54:45 <benjamingoodger> Eddi|zuHause: do you remember how they tried it in the US in 2000? 01:55:28 <benjamingoodger> FOX called Florida for Bush too early, and Bush became president-elect despite not being elected in Florida! 01:55:40 <petern> do you remember how they tried it in F1 on sunday :D 01:55:47 <benjamingoodger> petern: heheheh 01:55:50 <Char> i guess chicago will have one of the greatest parties ever tonight 01:55:59 <Eddi|zuHause> i didn't follow F1, what happened there? 01:56:12 <Char> Eddi|zuHause: no, actually i dont 01:56:53 <benjamingoodger> Char: bloody hell, it's all blue! 01:56:53 <benjamingoodger> :D 01:56:56 <Char> Eddi|zuHause: hamilton won.... basically on the last kilometer 01:57:43 <petern> Eddi|zuHause: hamilton gained a position after massa had crossed the line 01:58:15 <Eddi|zuHause> weird... 01:58:22 <petern> massa won the race 01:58:38 <petern> but hamilton won the championship title 01:58:56 <Eddi|zuHause> what happened to the time when schuhmacher was clear winner 6 races before the end? 01:58:58 <Char> like.... he was on 5 and needed to be on 5 to win the world championship.... then due to rain, he fell back on 6, which was not enough. massa was basically world champion when he crossed the line (as 1st), but hamilton passed some other guy in the final lap 01:59:25 <Char> Eddi|zuHause: how do you mean? 01:59:41 <benjamingoodger> MCCAIN: "We've had a great ride, we've had a great experience and it's full of memories that we will always treasure" ~ he knows he's lost, doesn't he 02:00:16 <thingwath> No? :-) 02:00:36 <petern> heh, 175/61 02:00:58 <petern> pinch of salt, of course 02:01:23 <benjamingoodger> BBC calls wisconsin 02:01:26 <benjamingoodger> new york 02:01:28 <benjamingoodger> minnesota 02:01:45 <petern> not enough results are in 02:01:51 <benjamingoodger> north dakota for mccain 02:02:24 <petern> bbc's michigan result says 52% mccain, 46% obama, and says obama's won 02:02:33 <petern> (2% counted!) 02:02:59 <petern> it's pretty silly to post such results, imho 02:03:12 * SmatZ agrees 02:03:18 <benjamingoodger> BBC calls rhode island for obama 02:04:23 <benjamingoodger> FOX calls ohio for obama 02:04:39 <petern> "Rhode Island - Obama projected to win. 0% of votes counted" 02:04:39 <benjamingoodger> BBC calls kansas for mccain 02:04:46 <petern> ah well 02:05:11 <thingwath> Nice. 02:05:27 <glx> they will need a week to count anyway :) 02:05:43 <benjamingoodger> bbc calls georgia for mccain 02:05:52 <thingwath> a week? 02:06:16 <SmatZ> BBC, FOX ... all of them should have the same source :) 02:06:37 <benjamingoodger> they should all have the same data, yes 02:06:41 <thingwath> hopefuly this elections. 02:07:10 <benjamingoodger> christ 02:07:18 <benjamingoodger> 97% of afroamericans in Georgia voted. 02:07:24 <benjamingoodger> that's extraordinary 02:07:32 <Eddi|zuHause> and still they call it for mccain 02:07:52 <benjamingoodger> yeah.. 02:07:55 <thingwath> who said they didn't vote for him :-) 02:08:02 <benjamingoodger> it was close, apparently 02:08:17 <benjamingoodger> FOX calls new mexico for obama 02:08:47 <thingwath> they are really guessing from one or two % of votes? 02:08:59 <benjamingoodger> yeah 02:09:04 <thingwath> ah. 02:09:10 <benjamingoodger> *shrug* 02:09:13 <benjamingoodger> they're usually right 02:09:23 <thingwath> I want to live in America, I think. 02:09:37 <benjamingoodger> I suppose someone has to 02:10:03 <thingwath> not necessarily 02:10:05 <benjamingoodger> heh 02:10:13 <benjamingoodger> the BBC is basically bashing mccain openly now 02:10:39 <thingwath> he needs BBC for that? 02:10:58 <benjamingoodger> no 02:11:06 <benjamingoodger> but the beeb is usually remarkably august 02:13:29 <thingwath> finished last beer 02:13:33 <Char> they called wyoming 02:13:36 <thingwath> aw :/ 02:13:40 <Char> and the vote is not yet over there 02:13:46 <Char> still nearly 2 hours to go 02:14:23 <benjamingoodger> bbc calls pennsylvania for obama 02:14:30 <benjamingoodger> bbc calls michigan for obama 02:14:33 <thingwath> the best way to predict result of the elections is to invent it :-) 02:14:44 <benjamingoodger> yeah, that works 02:15:15 <Char> calling michigan for obama is stupid 02:15:30 <Char> it currently is obama 45 / mccain 53 there 02:15:38 <benjamingoodger> mmm 02:15:40 <benjamingoodger> that's the current vote 02:15:48 <Eddi|zuHause> i long for the times when elections had a sure outcome of 98% here :p 02:15:51 <benjamingoodger> the call is based on the predicted final vote :P 02:16:09 <Char> Eddi|zuHause: you really do? 02:16:10 <mikegrb> yeah but they look at historical plus polls plus all sorts of crazy 02:16:12 <mikegrb> crap 02:16:18 <Eddi|zuHause> of course not :p 02:16:21 <Char> ;) 02:16:27 <Char> well, you never know.... 02:16:33 <mikegrb> ja 02:17:15 <benjamingoodger> FOX calls Ohio for Obama 02:17:31 <benjamingoodger> 5% reported 02:17:34 <benjamingoodger> ....he's won 02:17:36 <benjamingoodger> I'm going to bed 02:17:41 <benjamingoodger> good night :) 02:19:15 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: Yesterday for president] 02:22:01 <Char> if ohio is for obama 02:22:04 <Char> then thats it? 02:22:49 <Eddi|zuHause> he basically has to get one swing state 02:22:53 <benjamingoodger> Char: yes. 02:22:59 <benjamingoodger> no republican has ever won without ohio 02:23:06 <Eddi|zuHause> mccain would have to get all of them 02:24:18 <SmatZ> kill me! 02:24:27 <SmatZ> I spent like 5 hours doing somethin 02:24:36 <SmatZ> caused by stupid copy&paste error 02:24:42 <SmatZ> stupid me 02:24:48 <thingwath> happens 02:24:50 <welshdragon> obama 175 mccain 72 from france24 02:24:55 <SmatZ> yeah :( 02:27:14 <benjamingoodger> 195/76 on the BBC 02:27:20 <Char> yeah 02:27:29 <Char> if counting ohio for obama 02:27:39 <benjamingoodger> they have apparently done so 02:27:48 <benjamingoodger> oh, and new york 02:28:14 <benjamingoodger> and pennsylvania 02:30:58 <benjamingoodger> BBC: "you'd have to believe in the tooth fairy to think McCain is going to win California, and I've never met the tooth fairy." 02:31:02 <welshdragon> ohio called by france24 02:31:17 <thingwath> crazy 02:31:49 <Char> ? 02:31:50 <Char> why? 02:32:07 <thingwath> how many votes counted? :) 02:32:17 <benjamingoodger> BBC calls w.virginia for mccain 02:32:29 <benjamingoodger> hmm, I still seem to be here 02:32:33 <benjamingoodger> luisiana for mccain 02:32:49 <benjamingoodger> 195/90 02:34:12 <SmatZ> :) 02:37:16 <benjamingoodger> BBC calls new mexico for obama 02:37:35 <benjamingoodger> 200/90 02:38:16 *** daspork [~daspork@71-87-194-249.dhcp.kgpt.tn.charter.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:38:17 <Char> cool 02:38:34 <Char> the german news site i use has NM at obama 11 / mccain 89 02:39:46 <Char> NM is pretty much in the middle of the republican mainland, no? 02:39:48 <welshdragon> http://usa2008.france24.com/en/ < quite a few places not called yet 02:40:05 <benjamingoodger> BBC calls texas for mccain 02:40:17 <benjamingoodger> 200/124 02:40:19 <Eddi|zuHause> new mexico was a big strategy for obama to get the hispanic vote there 02:40:42 <Eddi|zuHause> and apparently that worked 02:41:01 <benjamingoodger> bbc calls wyoming for mccain 02:41:13 <benjamingoodger> arkansas for mccain 02:41:24 <Eddi|zuHause> texas for mccain 02:41:31 <Eddi|zuHause> 200:119 02:43:06 <benjamingoodger> 10 state polls close soon 02:43:10 <benjamingoodger> I will stay up for them... 02:43:24 <benjamingoodger> no call for florida yet 02:43:51 <Belugas> bah 02:44:03 <Belugas> go to sleep.. the results will be there tomorrow... 02:44:34 <benjamingoodger> I will lie in bed, thinking about it... 02:44:41 <Char> ;) 02:44:43 <thingwath> I'm hungry :-) 02:44:45 <Char> i guess its over 02:44:46 <benjamingoodger> might as well stay up all night 02:44:49 <Char> eat something 02:44:52 <thingwath> I can't sleep. 02:44:56 <thingwath> No food :-) 02:45:01 <Char> you know 02:45:03 <Char> theres places 02:45:06 <Char> that have so much food 02:45:09 <Char> they sell it 02:45:17 *** daspork [~daspork@71-87-194-249.dhcp.kgpt.tn.charter.com] has joined #openttd 02:45:36 <Char> can someone change the topic 02:45:49 <Char> to represent obamas historic win? 02:46:00 <thingwath> Oh, please, don't. 02:46:02 <Char> victory 02:46:04 <Char> :P 02:46:10 <benjamingoodger> heh 02:46:23 <benjamingoodger> 0.63 = proportion of obama voters :) 02:46:53 <thingwath> Food... too far. Everything closed. 02:47:11 <benjamingoodger> heh 02:49:21 <thingwath> And the first morning train just passed by. 02:49:56 <benjamingoodger> thingwath: what time is it there? 02:50:08 <thingwath> 3:49, CET 02:50:23 <benjamingoodger> ah 02:50:28 <benjamingoodger> that's very early... 02:50:33 <thingwath> or late :-) 02:50:45 <benjamingoodger> british trains don't start until 5:40 GMT 02:51:15 <thingwath> everything starts early here 02:51:31 <benjamingoodger> iowa, montana, nevada, utah in ten minutes 02:51:44 <thingwath> by 5.40, it's almost morning traffic spike :-) 02:51:53 <benjamingoodger> heh 02:52:09 <thingwath> oh, ok, not so bad :-) 02:52:21 <benjamingoodger> according to whois you are in sweden? 02:52:26 <thingwath> No. 02:52:35 <benjamingoodger> czech republic? 02:52:39 <thingwath> That is server I'm connected to. 02:52:41 <thingwath> Yep. 02:52:45 <benjamingoodger> ah 02:52:54 <benjamingoodger> I didn't know czech was in CET 02:52:55 <Eddi|zuHause> <thingwath> by 5.40, it's almost morning traffic spike :-) <- that 02:53:13 <thingwath> where else it should be? :-) 02:53:13 <Eddi|zuHause> 's typically an indication that people commute very far 02:53:26 <benjamingoodger> well 02:53:31 <thingwath> they start to work by 7:00, or even earlier 02:53:34 <benjamingoodger> possibly eastern europe time? 02:54:07 <thingwath> ukraine is in EET 02:54:09 <benjamingoodger> or something like that... 02:54:16 <Eddi|zuHause> well, yes, but if the traffic peak is >1h before starting to work, means people travel >1h to work 02:54:19 <benjamingoodger> ah 02:54:21 <benjamingoodger> I do apologise 02:54:26 <thingwath> :-) 02:54:27 <benjamingoodger> I forgot this map is from 1969 :) 02:54:40 <benjamingoodger> ukraine is still in the USSR 02:54:45 <thingwath> :-) 02:54:55 <benjamingoodger> this places czech in the middle 02:55:07 <Eddi|zuHause> benjamingoodger: the 15° CET line passes exactly through czechia 02:55:28 <benjamingoodger> right 02:55:42 <Eddi|zuHause> that's roughly the border between germany and poland 02:55:56 <thingwath> Eddi|zuHause: maybe, I travel ~40 minutes to school, and it's not so far, like 6 kilometers or so 02:56:24 <benjamingoodger> good grief! 02:56:26 <Eddi|zuHause> 6km in 40 minutes? you can walk that :p 02:56:33 <thingwath> Yes. I can :-) 02:56:50 <benjamingoodger> I drive 15 km in that time 02:57:12 <thingwath> depends on where 02:57:27 <Eddi|zuHause> i have roughly 40km to work, that's 35 minutes by car, or 110 minutes by public transport 02:57:41 <Char> Eddi|zuHause: buy a bike 02:57:44 <Char> its faster and easier 02:57:50 <thingwath> well, I spend 25 minutes in tram 02:57:50 <benjamingoodger> christ 02:57:50 <benjamingoodger> Eddi|zuHause: where are you? 02:57:56 <Char> and it keeps your muscles awake 02:58:13 <Char> benjamingoodger: according to his nickname, he is at home. 02:58:20 <benjamingoodger> :) 02:58:23 <thingwath> :-) 02:58:26 <benjamingoodger> BBC calls Mississippi for mccain 02:58:28 <Eddi|zuHause> being a student, public transport is way cheaper, though 02:58:33 <benjamingoodger> 200/130 02:58:37 <Char> well 02:58:39 <Char> for me 02:58:44 <Char> bike is cheaper 02:58:53 <thingwath> I just prefer the tram :-) 02:58:55 <benjamingoodger> Eddi|zuHause: being a student, I fear for my life if I take public transport to college 02:58:59 <Char> public transport would be like 300 EUR / year 02:59:02 <benjamingoodger> hmm 02:59:04 <benjamingoodger> I like trams 02:59:09 <benjamingoodger> pity we've none here 02:59:09 <thingwath> bike is dangerous, car expensive and I don't have driving licence 02:59:20 <Char> bike rules 02:59:20 <Eddi|zuHause> i pay 100⬠for 6 months of public transport 02:59:34 <Char> hmm 02:59:38 <thingwath> I pay ~25 EUR for 3 months 02:59:40 <Char> thats expensive 02:59:52 <Char> my bike is... well not exactly for free 02:59:58 <Char> but even if i pay the same 03:00:01 <Char> bike is faster 03:00:01 <thingwath> and I think it's cheap :-) 03:00:03 <Char> and healthier 03:00:08 <Char> unless you are overrun by a car 03:00:11 <thingwath> :-) 03:00:22 <Char> but its faster 03:00:26 <Char> and much more flexible 03:00:29 <benjamingoodger> Char: if the car is driven by me, frankly, that is likely 03:00:31 <benjamingoodger> I hate cyclists 03:00:37 <Char> well 03:00:40 <benjamingoodger> it's not their fault 03:00:45 <Eddi|zuHause> Char: well, bike may be fast in the city, but i live in a rural area, and work is not in the next city 03:00:45 <Char> most of the cyclists cycle like crazy 03:00:49 <benjamingoodger> but our roads are so terrible we can barely fit cars on 03:00:53 <benjamingoodger> and they're so hilly... 03:00:57 <benjamingoodger> the cyclists always hold people up 03:00:57 <Char> then again, most of the automobilists drive like crazy as well 03:01:10 <thingwath> Who doesn't :-) 03:01:11 <Sacro> ...hills? 03:01:12 <benjamingoodger> BBC calls iowa for obama 03:01:14 <Sacro> our city has none 03:01:19 <Sacro> utah for mccain 03:01:21 <thingwath> I walk like crazy :-) 03:01:47 <benjamingoodger> Sacro: I don't live in a city, I live in a town of 2,800 and drive to a town of 28,000 --- this being the largest town in the county 03:02:11 <thingwath> I would hate to drive every day. 03:02:25 <Sacro> which town? 03:02:28 <Sacro> Hull is flat :D 03:02:32 <Char> hmmm 03:02:34 <Sacro> highest you can get is about 6ft above ea 03:02:37 <Sacro> *sea 03:02:43 <Char> i guess the mccain people can start to switch the lights off 03:02:46 <benjamingoodger> st austell is the largest town in cornwall... 03:02:52 <benjamingoodger> it's also a sickening shithole 03:03:11 <benjamingoodger> thingwath: driving isn't so bad, except fuel is expensive 03:03:24 <thingwath> I really don't like it. I don't like cars either :-) 03:04:02 <benjamingoodger> 207/135 03:04:30 <thingwath> And I have no idea where to park. 03:04:55 <benjamingoodger> heh 03:05:01 <benjamingoodger> the college parking is terrible 03:05:02 <Char> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1TT7gt5F0w&eurl=http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/0,1518,588441,00.html 03:05:17 <benjamingoodger> they gravelled over a cricket pitch to make a new car park and it's still not enough 03:05:18 <Char> sorry 03:05:18 <Char> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1TT7gt5F0w 03:05:20 <benjamingoodger> I park down the road 03:05:23 <thingwath> we have college parking only for employees 03:05:30 <thingwath> which I am not 03:05:46 <thingwath> and every other place is full, all the time 03:06:07 <thingwath> but I really doubt the car would be faster here 03:06:30 <thingwath> and I couldn't drink when I want to :-) 03:06:44 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: bye] 03:07:03 <benjamingoodger> heh 03:07:05 <benjamingoodger> I've no choice 03:07:20 <benjamingoodger> the college run public buses, but they don't match my timetable 03:07:34 <benjamingoodger> and there are no other buses and the trains don't match my timetable either 03:07:43 <thingwath> timetable :-) 03:07:49 <thingwath> I have nothing like that :-D 03:07:53 <benjamingoodger> heh 03:07:58 <benjamingoodger> I'm still only 18 03:07:59 <thingwath> well, I do, but... :-) 03:08:46 <thingwath> And, of course, I like trams :-) 03:09:01 <benjamingoodger> heh 03:09:06 <benjamingoodger> yeah, trams are nice 03:09:15 <benjamingoodger> do you know why they're not available in my copy of openttd, btw? 03:09:27 <Eddi|zuHause> you need to add a grf 03:09:32 <benjamingoodger> oh 03:09:39 <benjamingoodger> I thought it came with the trams grf 03:09:53 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, but you still have to enable it 03:10:14 <thingwath> trams grf included? 03:10:15 <benjamingoodger> I enabled all the grfs I found in the newgrf GUI 03:12:09 <Eddi|zuHause> the generic tram grf is distributed with release builds 03:12:15 <Eddi|zuHause> not with nightlies 03:12:31 *** Sacro_ [~ben@adsl-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 03:12:32 <thingwath> ah, I have only git clone repository 03:12:36 <Eddi|zuHause> nightlies are stripped from such extras like grfs and scenarios 03:12:44 <Eddi|zuHause> you can get those elsewhere 03:12:50 <benjamingoodger> I'm running on debian 03:12:55 <benjamingoodger> but I will have a look in that case 03:12:57 <benjamingoodger> thank you 03:14:29 <Char> hmmm 03:14:33 <Char> is there any good scenarios? 03:16:51 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:17:29 *** Sacro|Desktop [~ben@adsl-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 03:20:46 *** Sacro_ [~ben@adsl-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:20:59 *** Sacro|Desktop is now known as Sacro 03:21:00 <Belugas> that question is really a matter of choice 03:21:18 <Belugas> the scenarios i would like may not be tose you wold 03:21:22 <Belugas> those 03:21:37 <Char> hmmm 03:21:39 <Char> thats true 03:24:55 <benjamingoodger> right, I'm going to bed 03:24:56 <benjamingoodger> again 03:25:01 <benjamingoodger> good night 03:27:57 <Char> VA, NC, FL are unsure 03:28:03 <Char> but i guess obama doesnt even need them 03:28:14 <Char> florida is 67% counted 03:34:36 *** Jezral [~projectjj@213.237.107.120.adsl.od.worldonline.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:39:49 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@213.237.107.120.adsl.od.worldonline.dk] has joined #openttd 03:46:48 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@fuco.sks1.muni.cz] has quit [Quit: Quit] 03:47:03 <Eddi|zuHause> virginia now for obama 03:48:01 *** daspork [~daspork@71-87-194-249.dhcp.kgpt.tn.charter.com] has left #openttd [Leaving] 03:48:31 *** Char [~Ich@d83-189-152-249.cust.tele2.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:49:04 *** Wolfensteijn [~Wolfenste@dhcp-077-250-018-164.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 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yes, in beta 5 - no 04:20:18 <George> Ammler: What? 04:22:58 *** Dred_furst [~Dred_furs@resnet707.bournemouth.ac.uk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:31:31 <Eddi|zuHause> 333:155 04:33:14 *** sigmund_ [~sigmund@91.80-202-245.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 04:35:01 *** sigmund [~sigmund@91.80-202-245.nextgentel.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:13:26 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77D6E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:13:55 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77D6E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 05:54:47 <ln-> McBama! 05:59:12 *** davis-- [~suckyours@p5B28F705.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 06:00:54 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77D6E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:01:13 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77D6E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 06:03:20 <Eddi|zuHause> hm, 99% counted and still too close to call 06:07:50 *** Xeryus|bnc is now known as XeryusTC 06:09:29 *** Jezral is now known as TinoDidriksen 06:22:03 <rubyruy> is there a patch/grf that implements max storage limits on stations based on size (and would thus make all the neat storehouse graphics from newstations actually do something) ? 06:23:11 *** davis-- [~suckyours@p5B28F705.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:23:25 <Eddi|zuHause> i remember someone attempting a patch 06:24:32 <Eddi|zuHause> but imho, those non-track stations should rather have influence on the station rating for different cargos 06:25:03 <Eddi|zuHause> like, an entrance building could give +10% for passengers 06:25:26 <Eddi|zuHause> or a warehouse could reduce the rating influence of larger stockpiles 06:25:45 <rubyruy> oh yeah i forgot stockpiles influence ratings 06:25:48 <Eddi|zuHause> or less decay for ratings when no vehicle is waiting 06:25:48 *** Doorslammer [Doorslamme@PIPP-p-203-54-229-135.prem.tmns.net.au] has joined #openttd 06:25:50 <rubyruy> that would be neat 06:25:58 <rubyruy> i think i agree 06:26:09 <Eddi|zuHause> also, they should be split from rail stations 06:26:13 <rubyruy> YES 06:26:27 <rubyruy> it's a huge PITA to build pretty stations because you have to dynamite the whole thing 06:26:35 <rubyruy> if you make a mistake 06:26:42 <Eddi|zuHause> you don'T 06:26:48 <rubyruy> oh? 06:26:54 <Eddi|zuHause> you can use the bulldozer tool 06:27:05 <Eddi|zuHause> ('R'-key) 06:27:07 <rubyruy> argh 06:27:28 <rubyruy> ok so what do you mean about splitting them from rail stations? 06:27:33 <rubyruy> just be in a different build menu? 06:27:38 <rubyruy> the build UI definitely is lacking 06:27:57 <rubyruy> at the very least the picker window should be resizable 06:28:12 <Eddi|zuHause> various things, like the catchment area, or the limits of building on slopes 06:28:31 <Eddi|zuHause> which are direct results of non-track tiles being counted as rail stations 06:28:48 <rubyruy> ah 06:29:00 <Doorslammer> Teehee 06:29:16 <rubyruy> on a completely different topic - has anyone ever attempted to make larger depots? 06:29:20 <Doorslammer> I love that moment of realisation that years of doing it one way was pointless ;) 06:29:44 <rubyruy> with all the wonderful grfs floating around having a giant train squeeze into a depot actually starts to break the immersion a little 06:30:02 <rubyruy> on a similar note - properly scaled ships would be nice 06:30:17 <rubyruy> i believe the ship thing is technically posisble now? just nobody made graphics yet? 06:31:15 <Eddi|zuHause> ships need much more improvement, not just graphically 06:31:25 <Eddi|zuHause> e.g. non-overlapping ships 06:31:53 <Eddi|zuHause> which requires a way to define right of way for ships 06:32:18 <Eddi|zuHause> especially in narrow canals, ships need to be prevented from deadlocking 06:32:56 <Eddi|zuHause> trains do that by signalling, road vehicles do that by having separate lanes for each direction 06:33:44 <rubyruy> one of these days i should really start picking up C and trying to make a patch :) 06:33:57 <Eddi|zuHause> the great advantage of ships is that they do not need a lot of infrastructure, this should be kept, but it makes it difficult to control them 06:34:28 <rubyruy> i'm horribly useless in non-dynamic, non-memory-managed, non-object-oriented programming though so it will prolly be very painfull :p 06:53:09 *** fjb_ [~frank@p5485E349.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 06:56:54 *** fjb [~frank@p5485FB1C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:17:15 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F5D146.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 07:20:37 <dih> morning 07:21:02 <petern> dih! 07:22:30 <dih> :-) 07:32:18 *** Char [~Ich@d83-181-123-126.cust.tele2.ch] has joined #openttd 07:47:21 *** welshdragon [~vista@87.102.21.185] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:54:10 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:56:12 *** FloSoft [~sifldoer@g229162009.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 08:01:58 *** welshdragon 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just you 08:34:57 <dih> just a slightly silly + unimportnat comment 08:35:09 <dih> nothing worth striving to understand :-P 08:36:05 *** Yeggstry [~mind@cpc1-rdng14-0-0-cust946.winn.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:47:02 *** roboboy [3aad2910@webchat.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 08:49:16 *** welshdragon [~vista@87.102.21.185] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:04:33 *** bleepy [bleepy@5ad1d1be.bb.sky.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:05:02 *** bleepy [bleepy@5ad1d1be.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 09:06:51 *** mikl [~mikl@0x57372ee2.mrbnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:13:14 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@145-118-111-36.fttx.bbned.nl] has joined #openttd 09:15:50 *** welshdragon [~vista@87.102.21.185] has joined #openttd 09:25:34 <Celestar> heh. 09:25:42 <Celestar> reading about transuranic elements is fun 09:26:15 <Celestar> sometimes those guys really produced less than a handful of atoms 09:26:37 <keyweed_> which last for less then the blink of an eye 09:27:13 *** Zahl [~Zahl@g227073228.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 09:27:47 *** mucht_work [~Martin@143.50.125.24] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:29:57 <Celestar> nope 09:30:04 <Celestar> some of them even last for minutes 09:30:40 *** mucht_work [~Martin@143.50.125.24] has joined #openttd 09:31:32 <Celestar> Uuq-289 has 21 seconds half-life 09:32:09 <Celestar> Uuq-298 (not produced yet) will possibly even have a much higher (possible OOM) half-life 09:33:33 *** rortom [~rortom_@5acfc1f1.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 09:39:11 <ln-> how about changing the reverse-at-the-end-of-lines-only thing? 09:42:51 *** Char [~Ich@d83-181-123-126.cust.tele2.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:42:51 *** Rexxie [~rexxars@62.113.133.253] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:45:53 <rortom> uhm 09:45:55 <rortom> anyone here? 09:46:42 <rortom> could someone verify that my server is instalntly desyncing? 09:46:43 <planetmaker> the vastness of cyberspace is here. 09:47:02 <rortom> .openttdserver.de in the server list 09:47:19 <rortom> i can join, but stay connected some seconds before it desyncs :(( 09:47:23 <planetmaker> sorry, no game@work. 09:47:30 <rortom> understandable ;) 09:47:58 <Ammler> no wort to play :P 09:48:01 <Ammler> no work 09:48:09 <Ammler> ? 09:52:19 <planetmaker> sufficient work to play... 09:54:59 *** Rexxie [~rexxars@62.113.133.253] has joined #openttd 09:56:46 <Celestar> rortom: what happens if you reload the server? 09:57:01 <rortom> via rcon? 09:58:20 <Celestar> for example 09:58:20 *** Rexxie [~rexxars@62.113.133.253] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:58:28 <Celestar> http://winter.group.shef.ac.uk/orbitron/AOs/7g/index.html <= nice orbital 09:58:45 <ln-> wtf, "[Visual Studio 2008] Upgrade Pricing Eligibility: To qualify for upgrade pricing, you must be a licensed user of one of the following products: * An earlier version of Microsoft Visual Studio 09:58:49 <ln-> * Any other developer tool (including free developer tools, such as Visual Studio Express Editions or Eclipse)" 09:59:39 <rortom> whahhaa :P 09:59:47 <rortom> microsoft fails yet again ;) 10:00:09 <rortom> Celestar: to to reload the server? 10:00:16 <Celestar> rortom: ? 10:00:33 <keyweed_> Celestar: i was confusing transuranic for transactinide. sorry 10:01:02 * keyweed_ should know his ununhexium from his nobelium 10:01:14 <rortom> Celestar: rcon <> "reload" ? 10:01:18 <Celestar> heh 10:01:32 * rortom too stupid to find it in the wiki :| 10:01:37 <Celestar> I dunno much about rcon 10:01:44 <Celestar> Ammler's the expect, or dih 10:02:17 <Ammler> !save && !rcon load game 10:02:48 <rortom> ah, nice, thanks :) 10:02:59 <Ammler> but hat dioes work only with ap 10:03:06 <rortom> the question is whether i can put that so fast into the console :\ 10:03:20 <Ammler> rcon save game 10:03:22 <Ammler> rcon load game 10:03:25 <rortom> yeah 10:03:28 <rortom> the thing is 10:03:36 <rortom> it desyncs aber some seconds :| 10:03:49 <Ammler> does it still desync after reload? 10:04:07 <rortom> how to reload if it desyncs before i am able to enter the commands? 10:04:09 <Ammler> then you have an other issue then we had. 10:04:15 *** roboboy [3aad2910@webchat.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 10:04:41 <Ammler> don't you have access to the server console? 10:04:56 <rortom> yes 10:05:03 <rortom> but thats the log only? 10:05:26 <Celestar> rortom: er no :) 10:05:31 <Celestar> you can enter commands there 10:05:31 <rortom> mhm 10:05:35 <Celestar> just type pause :P 10:05:42 <rortom> oh ;) 10:06:35 <petern> we need readline support ;) 10:06:41 * rortom = stupid :p 10:06:55 <rortom> you should use some fancy ncurses ;) 10:07:19 <Celestar> sounds good 10:07:24 <Celestar> is there any ncurses for windows? 10:07:33 <rortom> yes 10:07:39 <rortom> let me search the link again 10:07:52 <rortom> there was some cross-platform thing 10:08:22 <rortom> http://pdcurses.sourceforge.net/ 10:08:26 <rortom> works great :) 10:10:38 <rortom> mhm, also 10:10:50 <rortom> after reloading the server does not desync anymore 10:11:04 *** Rexxie [~rexxars@62.113.133.253] has joined #openttd 10:12:41 *** davis-- [~suckyours@p5B28F705.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 10:13:33 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 10:19:26 *** Celestar [~Jadzia_Da@p5B0DA34D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:20:03 * davis-- hi 10:20:30 *** davis-- is now known as davis- 10:26:54 <ln-> http://rr-bb.com/showpost.php?p=862644&postcount=16 10:36:26 *** DaleStan is now known as Guest1637 10:36:26 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-67-2.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 10:36:30 <dih> read reverlation... i wait for the 3 kings and the 7 headed creature that crawls out of the sea 10:40:46 *** welshdragon [~vista@87.102.21.185] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:42:07 *** 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I wait for my 3 wifes and seven hairy kids to crawl up on their seats 13:46:22 *** Guest1656 [~Dale@pool-71-98-67-2.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:47:56 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@86.89.201.189] has joined #openttd 13:54:04 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@161-18-80-78.strcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has joined #openttd 13:56:28 *** Aylomen [~a@DSL01.83.171.186.206.ip-pool.NEFkom.net] has joined #openttd 13:58:48 <planetmaker> you must be a lucky man, Belugas :P 14:00:14 <Belugas> no :) i'm just mocking up dih's previous post ^_^ 14:00:29 <Belugas> hell... i have one kid and one wife, and it's enough alright ;) 14:02:33 *** CIA-5 [~CIA@208.69.182.149] has joined #openttd 14:03:07 <Belugas> i love them very dearly, don't take mewrongly 14:06:41 <planetmaker> hehe :) One woman is sufficient to keep one occupied :) 14:07:16 <Belugas> you bet 14:10:46 <Eddi|zuHause> <ln-> http://rr-bb.com/showpost.php?p=862644&postcount=16 <- excuse me if i'm wrong, but Obama is christian, too... 14:15:41 <Belugas> what a pityful display of ignorance and prejudice... the post, not ln... 14:16:08 <Char> hmmmm. i was not aware that it is actually possible to make the game challenging in single player 14:16:21 <Belugas> can't even spell Barack correclty :P 14:16:23 <fjb> Beware of religious people. 14:16:47 <fjb> Especially stupid religious people... 14:16:50 <Char> no, dont beware of religious people. beware of religious people that are on the edge of being fanatic 14:17:11 <Belugas> yup yup yup 14:17:20 <Char> most of the religious people are perfectly okay 14:17:26 <Belugas> any kind of fanatism is to be avoided 14:17:32 <Char> ;) 14:17:32 <Belugas> not only religious 14:17:38 <Char> thats true, though 14:18:29 <fjb> Religion always devides people between "us" and "them". 14:18:59 <Char> but religious fanatism has yet brought some of the weirdest excrescences, so you might want to be a little extra-careful there. 14:19:13 <dih> fjb: the berlin wall did the same 14:19:17 <Belugas> "And after all we're only ordinary men" 14:19:29 <Belugas> "Me, and you" 14:19:39 <Belugas> "God only knows it's not what we would choose to do" 14:19:41 <dih> "stasi" also created an atmosphere of us and them 14:19:54 <fjb> dih: I did not say that only religion does it, but religion always does it. 14:20:05 <dih> everything does it 14:20:07 <Belugas> god i love Pink Floyd 14:20:12 <dih> as soon as you get opinion involved 14:20:17 <dih> heck - kill free will 14:20:39 <Char> ... and i once thought this was a channel for openttd. 14:20:39 * fjb loves Pink Floyed too. 14:20:44 <Eddi|zuHause> <fjb> Religion always devides people between "us" and "them". <- football does that, too... 14:20:59 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 14:21:04 <fjb> Eddi|zuHause: Football is a kind of religion. 14:21:08 <Belugas> Char, it's not DEVOTED to OpenTTD only 14:21:12 <dih> fjb: Open and Patch does it too 14:21:15 <Char> ;) 14:21:17 <Belugas> don't be a fanatic of OpenTTD ^_^ 14:21:25 <dih> :-P 14:21:34 <Char> well. i dont think that dividing people into "us" and "them" is yet a bad thing 14:21:47 <Belugas> it is a bad thing alright 14:21:56 <dih> us and them emphasises 2 groups - which also is rubbish 14:21:58 <Belugas> what are the differences? 14:22:03 <Belugas> none aprat ideology 14:22:11 <Belugas> does an ideology feeds you? 14:22:12 <Belugas> naaaa 14:22:15 <Char> unless you start thinking that the "us" people are better in general, it is the only way to be, "them" should be killed or whatever 14:22:17 <fjb> dih: As I told you: I did not say that only religion devides people. My statement was not bijective. 14:22:21 <Belugas> can you fuck an idelogogy? neither 14:22:25 <Eddi|zuHause> even nature does divide people into "us" and "them"... 14:22:28 <Belugas> so... useless to fight for 14:22:35 <Eddi|zuHause> by giving one group an Y-chromosome 14:22:58 <dih> fjb: your statement was silly because there is nothing that does not devide into 'us' and 'them' 14:23:05 <Belugas> Eddi|zuHause... Eddi|zuHause... Eddi|zuHause... that is not dividing :) it's pleasure! 14:23:19 <Belugas> pleasure in uniting that is ;) 14:23:27 <Char> lol 14:23:50 <dih> Belugas: talk to same-sex couples :-P 14:23:51 <Eddi|zuHause> exactly, dividing things is not a ba thing per se... 14:23:58 <dih> at leas one part will not agree 14:24:09 <Belugas> dih : who cares? as loing as love is in the air? 14:24:20 * dih sings along :-P 14:24:35 <Eddi|zuHause> Belugas: i'm sure the person writing that forum post cares :p 14:24:45 <dih> hehe 14:25:02 <Belugas> and honestly, why should one care who or what the neighbours are fucking? it's totallyu not one's business 14:25:28 <Belugas> to live and let die 14:25:32 <Belugas> love is all you need 14:25:39 <Belugas> etc etc etc 14:25:45 <petern> who what? 14:26:38 <Belugas> in other words, mind our own businesses and stop breaking all hell because of the neightbours's actions 14:26:48 <Belugas> Hello Peter :D 14:26:51 <petern> and say no to prop 8! 14:27:02 <Belugas> hehe 14:27:08 <petern> quite why someone decided that it should even exist is boggling 14:28:03 <Eddi|zuHause> "prop 8"... is that some newgrfism? :p 14:28:35 <dih> yes - devides into 'us' and 'them' :-D 14:29:58 <Belugas> d<I>vides 14:30:07 <Belugas> as in dih 14:30:35 <petern> Eddi|zuHause: http://www.noonprop8.com/ 14:30:46 *** DaleStan_ [~Dale@pool-71-98-67-2.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 14:30:46 *** DaleStan is now known as Guest1663 14:30:47 *** DaleStan_ is now known as DaleStan 14:33:34 *** Brianett2 [~brian@client-82-26-69-27.bmly.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #openttd 14:37:09 *** Guest1663 [~Dale@pool-71-98-67-2.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:38:39 <Belugas> Dalestan has a lot of problems whit his connection today. Internet must be overcrowded with messages and all in the US ^_^ 14:38:52 <glx> hehe 14:40:06 *** Brianett1 [~brian@client-82-26-69-27.bmly.adsl.virgin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:41:47 <petern> either the bbc is slow, or missouri and north carolina are doing a recount 14:41:56 <Sacro> petern: recount i guess 14:41:57 <petern> or they've decided they can't be bothered :) 14:44:30 <Eddi|zuHause> north carolina is the new florida? :p 14:47:31 *** Swallow [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 3.0.3/2008092417]] 14:54:16 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm9.psi140.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:59:42 *** CIA-5 [~CIA@208.69.182.149] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:03:40 *** davis-- [~suckyours@p5B28DDA6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:11:07 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@86.89.201.189] has quit [Quit: COCKBUSTER SLEEP MODE] 15:11:11 *** davis- [~suckyours@p5B28F705.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:13:08 *** davis-- is now known as davis- 15:19:56 <Belugas> yurk 15:20:36 <Belugas> why does it always has to taste THAT bad? Why can't they device medecine that is AT LEASTE tasteless?? 15:22:32 *** konto [~adam@chello089074030038.chello.pl] has joined #openttd 15:22:37 <konto> helo 15:22:53 <davis-> hi 15:23:31 <konto> why my coal mines produces less than 200 tons of coal after many years? 15:23:41 <planetmaker> you don't service them well? 15:23:57 <planetmaker> and define "many years". 15:24:06 <konto> 50 years 15:24:14 *** Swallow [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 15:24:19 <planetmaker> and your station ratings? 15:24:22 <dih> yeah - i expect my mines to produce at least 350 tones a month 15:24:26 <dih> what a bug 15:24:29 <planetmaker> :D 15:24:30 <dih> ottd should fix it 15:24:31 <dih> :P 15:24:39 <konto> there is always one waiting train for coal 15:24:49 <dih> that was not the question ;-) 15:25:15 <planetmaker> important is also that the service is somewhat sufficiently frequent. 15:25:19 <konto> planetmaker: forests produces less than 200 tons of woods too... its no only coal mines 15:25:21 <dih> + if you have very long trains and dont get to transport stuff every month the industry produces less 15:25:23 <planetmaker> Permanent loading with a 100-tile train won't help you. 15:25:52 <konto> planetmaker: hm... so more shors trains? 15:25:54 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B3A7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:25:56 <dih> konto: if it's not just coal then it's definately the network manager 15:25:57 <dih> :-D 15:25:58 <planetmaker> yes. Give it a try. 15:26:03 <planetmaker> :D 15:26:49 <planetmaker> dih: you're nasty :P While in 99% the error is in front of the screen... :P for politeness reason we should not say so :P 15:27:01 <dih> no 15:27:05 <dih> you are right 15:27:37 <dih> konto: i think openttd has a bug and does not always like it's transport manager's network, therefore there is a hardcoded limit to stop good managers :-D 15:27:42 <dih> (better?) :-P 15:27:48 <dih> konto: just kidding 15:27:50 <planetmaker> first assumption must be a hacker who modified your binary in a malicious way. 15:27:57 <dih> yes 15:27:59 <dih> of course 15:28:10 <planetmaker> konto: sorry. funny mood :P 15:28:25 <planetmaker> normally we're really nice and friendly :) 15:28:46 <dih> konto: if you have a train waiting all the time, but the train is very long, is quite unimportant - the station rating is the more importnat factor there ;-) 15:29:05 <dih> you can read up a lot on that stuff at wiki.openttd.org 15:29:12 <planetmaker> ^^ good hint 15:29:12 <dih> and we really are a nice bunch of people 15:29:19 <dih> ^^ also a good hint 15:29:24 <dih> :-P 15:29:30 <planetmaker> :P 15:29:46 * dih has 30 mins left to his work day 15:30:02 * planetmaker has another 2h... 15:30:06 <dih> HAHA 15:30:12 <dih> suck-RRRR 15:30:14 <dih> :-P 15:30:16 <dih> hihihi 15:30:20 <dih> but for that i started earlier 15:30:23 <planetmaker> :P I started at 10h though :) 15:30:33 <dih> 8 am here 15:30:36 <dih> :-P 15:31:06 <konto> dih: yeah... but rating are very well, more than 80% 15:31:37 <dih> and what does the industry say about transported estimate 15:31:52 <dih> (also an important factor) 15:34:17 *** Doorslammer [Doorslamme@PIPP-p-203-54-229-135.prem.tmns.net.au] has quit [Quit: I'll get you next episode, Inspector Gadget! NEXT EPISODE!] 15:35:29 *** DGMurdockIII [~dgmurdock@64-184-8-123.bb.hrtc.net] has joined #openttd 15:42:01 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.188.235] has joined #openttd 15:42:52 *** DGMurdockIII [~dgmurdock@64-184-8-123.bb.hrtc.net] has quit [Quit: get satisfied!  :: www.unitedservers.de ««« (Gamers.IRC) »»» gamersirc.net ::] 15:43:58 <Eddi|zuHause> <planetmaker> normally we're really nice and friendly :) <-- err... have you any proof of that? 15:44:35 <planetmaker> no. I just liked to make a statement which is according to Goedel not proof-able :P 15:44:50 <planetmaker> this comminity certainly is sufficiently complex. 15:45:40 <dih> it is proofable 15:45:49 <dih> read the logs at thegrebs.com :-P 15:46:12 <ln-> *provable 15:46:28 <planetmaker> I knew it's written different :) Thx 15:51:50 *** CIA-4 [~CIA@208.69.182.149] has joined #openttd 15:53:43 <dih> well done planetmaker - i thought it was not correct but also thought you'd know :-D 15:57:42 <planetmaker> :D 16:01:56 *** CIA-4 [~CIA@208.69.182.149] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:04:06 <Dr_Jekyll> is there a vehicle set wich contains ships to carry fish? i don't want to build railway stations to the middle of the ocean... 16:05:57 *** Zahl_ [~Zahl@g229221075.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 16:07:36 *** dfox [~dfox@r5cv134.net.upc.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:07:47 *** dfox [~dfox@r5cv134.net.upc.cz] has joined #openttd 16:08:05 <Eddi|zuHause> well, Gödel said there _exist_ statments which are not provable, not that _any_ statement is not provable :p 16:08:22 <Eddi|zuHause> you still have to prove that the statement is not provable :p 16:08:27 <planetmaker> :P 16:08:52 <planetmaker> axiom: there's no such thing as "normal" :P 16:09:07 <planetmaker> --> any statement containing "normal" is not provable. 16:11:32 <davis-> -> 16:13:07 *** Zahl [~Zahl@g227073228.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:13:07 *** Zahl_ is now known as Zahl 16:16:37 *** Zorn [zorn@g224104197.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 16:16:38 <Eddi|zuHause> right, that is at least sufficient plausability ;) 16:19:15 <planetmaker> :) 16:21:38 *** Brianett2 is now known as Brianetta 16:23:12 *** Zorni [zorn@e177225182.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:25:21 *** Dred_furst [~Dred_furs@resnet741.bournemouth.ac.uk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:25:47 *** Char [~Ich@d213-103-154-91.cust.tele2.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:27:33 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590ff66e.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #openttd 16:33:52 *** welshdragon [~vista@87.102.21.185] has joined #openttd 16:40:32 *** Batti5 [~Lorand@92.82.83.123] has joined #openttd 16:50:34 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@ip54534322.speed.planet.nl] has joined #openttd 16:52:08 *** mikl [~mikl@0x57372ee2.mrbnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: mikl] 16:56:19 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@ip54534322.speed.planet.nl] has quit [Quit: COCKBUSTER SLEEP MODE] 16:59:18 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-82-26-69-27.bmly.adsl.virgin.net] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 16:59:19 *** Rexxie [~rexxars@62.113.133.253] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:12:04 *** nicfer [~Administr@168.226.105.40] has joined #openttd 17:12:32 <nicfer> one question, where are the servers that use nightly builds of openttd? 17:12:59 <frosch123> http://www.openttd.org/de/servers 17:13:16 <nicfer> I've find them 17:13:23 <nicfer> they were in the middle 17:13:43 <nicfer> http://www.openttd.org/en/server/2718 weird version 17:14:46 <glx> custom build 17:15:35 *** Purno [~Purno@5350931D.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 17:15:42 <nicfer> aren't manual builds named differently? 17:15:57 <Aali> you can name your build whatever you want 17:19:44 <nicfer> I've tried to run openttd from a usb flash drive, but when I've connected to a server, it hang up 17:20:33 <nicfer> could this be happening due to the drive's low write speed? 17:20:35 <petern> heh 17:20:39 <petern> www.protectmarriage.com is funny 17:23:58 *** Char [~Ich@d213-103-154-91.cust.tele2.ch] has joined #openttd 17:24:23 <frosch123> what's funny? boring. 17:24:38 *** Rexxie [~rexxars@62.113.133.253] has joined #openttd 17:26:29 <glx> nicfer: when you join a server you download the savegame 17:27:12 *** Swallow [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 3.0.3/2008092417]] 17:36:12 *** welshdragon [~vista@87.102.21.185] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:42:04 <petern> well 17:42:07 <petern> fair enough 17:42:08 <petern> i'm going home 17:44:00 *** Belugas_Gone [~jfranc@ip-217.85.126.206.dsl-cust.ca.inter.net] has joined #openttd 17:44:25 <Belugas_Gone> hellooo again 17:44:44 <Belugas_Gone> my alter ego is on an unreachable pc right now :( 17:45:05 <davis-> tragedy 17:45:33 <Belugas_Gone> nice song indeed... 17:47:02 *** CIA-4 [~CIA@208.69.182.149] has joined #openttd 17:48:19 <davis-> :P 17:50:32 *** welshdragon [~vista@87.102.21.185] has joined #openttd 17:53:59 *** fjb [~frank@p5485E349.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 17:56:32 *** Char [~Ich@d213-103-154-91.cust.tele2.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:03:07 *** Netsplit synthon.oftc.net <-> oxygen.oftc.net quits: mikegrb, ccfreak2k 18:03:25 *** Netsplit over, joins: mikegrb 18:03:37 *** Netsplit over, joins: ccfreak2k 18:05:56 *** Yeggstry [~mind@cpc1-rdng14-0-0-cust946.winn.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 18:09:43 *** Sacro [~Ben@adsl-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:09:59 *** Sacro [~Ben@adsl-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 18:10:25 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d51A43482.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 18:19:22 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F5D146.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:23:47 <nicfer> has been suggested fences for roads? 18:27:41 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:27:57 <Aali> people already hate the railroad fences 18:28:18 <Aali> and i dont see how that would be useful, you can use other peoples roads 18:28:27 <Aali> so it doesn't really matter who owns it 18:28:40 <nicfer> hmmm... easier to know who owns the roadtrack? 18:28:54 <Belugas_Gone> has been suggested. has not been received with great enthusiasm 18:29:01 <Belugas_Gone> has not been done 18:29:30 <Aali> just use the land area information tool or look at the worldmap if you really want to know 18:36:40 <frosch123> Belugas_Gone: But you have to admit, that it is not realistic :) 18:38:38 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F5D146.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 18:41:37 <Belugas_Gone> ho ho ho :) 18:44:29 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@wired-243.fi.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 18:48:13 *** Sacro [~Ben@adsl-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:52:06 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 18:53:50 *** mikl [~mikl@0x5550c003.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 18:57:21 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@87.2.235.15] has joined #openttd 18:57:49 <Wolf01> hello 18:58:43 *** `Fuco`` [dota.keys@wireless-100.fi.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 19:00:00 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.130] has joined #openttd 19:02:51 *** `Fuco`` [dota.keys@wireless-100.fi.muni.cz] has quit [] 19:03:07 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@wired-243.fi.muni.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:07:50 *** Purno [~Purno@5350931D.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:08:06 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B83B70.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:10:15 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B838A6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 19:10:15 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 19:14:18 *** Belugas_Gone [~jfranc@ip-217.85.126.206.dsl-cust.ca.inter.net] has quit [Quit: How about sleeping? 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I'm installing the ubuntu package; do I still need to get hold of the original Microprose binaries to play? 20:52:52 <Aali> you never needed the binaries 20:52:56 <Aali> you need the data files 20:53:14 <Aali> grfs and sample.cat 20:53:36 <squid0> Aali: oh ok. so where can I get those from? 20:53:57 <Aali> from your original TTD media 20:54:07 <squid0> and if I don't have that? 20:54:22 <Aali> then you can't play 20:54:28 <squid0> ok 20:54:37 <squid0> thanks 20:54:55 *** squid0 [~yair@89.1.63.141.dynamic.barak-online.net] has left #openttd [] 21:04:28 <benjamingoodger> another satisfied customer 21:04:56 <thingwath> :-D 21:11:03 * davis- gn 21:11:18 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@fuco.sks1.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 21:13:02 <benjamingoodger> *bored* 21:13:24 *** NukeBuster [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has joined #openttd 21:15:24 <Prof_Frink> Pfft, you should at least have hinted at 3407 21:15:55 <benjamingoodger> 3407? 21:16:00 <Prof_Frink> 3407. 21:16:10 <Prof_Frink> t=3407 21:16:24 <benjamingoodger> ... 21:16:35 <benjamingoodger> revision that doesn't require microprose stuff? 21:17:12 <Prof_Frink> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=3407 21:18:23 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590ff66e.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:19:29 <benjamingoodger> aha 21:22:36 *** ProfFrink [~proffrink@5ad84b74.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 21:23:42 *** davis- [~suckyours@p5B28DDA6.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.2 :: www.regroup-esports.com )] 21:28:04 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5adb1dad.bb.sky.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:28:04 *** ProfFrink is now known as Prof_Frink 21:28:34 <benjamingoodger> ho hum 21:29:06 <benjamingoodger> I personally would have linked to orudge's site had I been here, no need to mess about with the wiki... 21:30:04 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-176-207.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 21:35:05 * orudge pokes Prof_Frink 21:35:24 * Prof_Frink is poked 21:35:53 <orudge> are you /ignoring all of #tycoon or somesuch, perhaps? you have been quite quiet as of late, but are apparently alive here :o 21:36:04 <Prof_Frink> #tywhatnow? 21:36:08 <orudge> quite 21:36:25 *** Batti5 [~Lorand@92.82.83.123] has left #openttd [Kopete 0.12.7 : http://kopete.kde.org] 21:37:06 *** rortom [~rortom_@5acfc1f1.bb.sky.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:38:27 <benjamingoodger> hey orudge, how's you this year? 21:38:57 <orudge> Not too bad 21:38:59 <orudge> busy, as usual 21:41:24 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 21:48:36 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@ip54534322.speed.planet.nl] has joined #openttd 21:50:14 *** Belugas_Gone is now known as Belugas 21:50:59 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas] by ChanServ 21:53:51 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@213.237.107.120.adsl.od.worldonline.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:54:20 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@213.237.107.120.adsl.od.worldonline.dk] has joined #openttd 21:56:33 *** Char [~Ich@d83-180-243-116.cust.tele2.ch] has joined #openttd 22:00:04 *** elmex [~elmex@e180068075.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:01:02 *** Belugas [~jfranc@ip-217.85.126.206.dsl-cust.ca.inter.net] has quit [Quit: How about sleeping? 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