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00:00:05 <Headswe> Booyah. 00:00:06 <Headswe> lol. 00:00:06 <Rubidium> Yexo: ignoring ln works better 00:00:07 <Headswe> hax 00:00:10 <Headswe> woop 00:00:12 <Headswe> lol 00:00:13 <Headswe> bye 00:00:18 *** Headswe [Headswe@h173n3c1o968.bredband.skanova.com] has quit [] 00:00:38 <SmatZ> storing industry type has the advantage that when a new industry opens/closes, the name of station won't change 00:00:59 <ln> Rubidium: but in that case the important things i say are also left unseen. 00:00:59 <SmatZ> and it may be (noticeably?) faster 00:01:19 <Rubidium> Yexo's approach is the faster one 00:01:26 *** Zahl [~Zahl@g226144238.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: Rhabarberbarbarabarbarbarenbartbarbierbierbar] 00:01:37 * SmatZ is confused 00:01:40 <Yexo> SmatZ: I store the string as a custom station name, so it won't change either on industry close 00:02:26 <SmatZ> Yexo: apologies 00:02:47 <SmatZ> though that won't work when you change language, right? 00:02:53 <Yexo> that's right 00:03:04 <Yexo> and "resetting" the station name won't work either 00:05:32 <Yexo> if I had known Rubidium already had a working patch I wouldn't have started at all :p 00:08:43 <Rubidium> well, you could've known that a dev was working on it ;) 00:08:53 <Rubidium> or at least has been working on it 00:10:02 <Yexo> the latest update to that task was 2 march, (btw, the task was assigned to Belugas ;p) 00:10:44 <Rubidium> true 00:10:56 <SmatZ> March? man, the time goes so quickly! 00:22:16 <Nite_Owl> Getting late - need to feed - later all 00:22:27 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-76-109-75-37.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Read You Soon] 00:26:25 <ln> who would dare to: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26O5miWH0Cg 00:26:46 <AgentLeMan> how is the type of window defined? as there are some you can close and some you can move, some not though, like the introscreenwindow. and then theres that errormessagewindow, which closes by itself and can be closed by rightclicking on the titlebar. 00:32:11 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@89.246.182.244] has joined #openttd 00:32:17 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77D3B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 00:32:42 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77D69.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 00:37:55 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:38:35 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.162.208] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:43:21 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 00:48:45 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@161-18-80-78.strcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:53:40 *** Dred_furst [~Dred_furs@resnet677.bournemouth.ac.uk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:13:11 <AgentLeMan> ... 01:13:49 *** AgentLeMan [~AgentLeMa@BAF76a3.baf.pppool.de] has quit [] 01:19:20 *** DASPRiD is now known as DASPRiD|off 01:20:43 *** patchbot [~andel@lund-conlon.co.uk] has joined #openttd 01:22:59 *** patchbot [~andel@lund-conlon.co.uk] has quit [] 01:40:21 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 01:44:55 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 01:46:43 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [] 02:20:26 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm251.psi148.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #openttd 02:24:12 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-139-199.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:25:27 *** Korenn [~kvirc@93-125-161-18.dsl.alice.nl] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 3.4.0 Virgo http://www.kvirc.net/] 02:27:08 <sigmund> Does anybody happen to know when oil and coal carriages for maglev will show up in the DB set of railcars? 02:28:09 <SmatZ> I guess "never" 02:28:40 <sigmund> That's a bummer 02:29:42 <sigmund> Is it possible in any way to unload a patch of that type from a savegame and continue playing with the standard railcars? 02:30:17 <sigmund> my mind was kind of thinking the addon railcars might be based upon some common template or something 02:32:17 <SmatZ> removing grfs is not offically supported, it is likely to crash the game or cause other problem 02:32:41 <sigmund> Thought as much. 02:33:33 <sigmund> Guess I'll just have to convert my massive oil operation down to standard electrical rails and stop waiting for the maglev cars then 02:33:41 <SmatZ> however, if you are running trunk, you mey try enabling "Enable multiple NewGRF engine sets" and adding a GRF that adds original vehicles... I don't remember its name now :-x 02:34:17 <SmatZ> well, I was just guessing there will be no Oil wagons ... you may try Ctrl+Alt(+Win)+C to open cheat menu 02:34:25 <SmatZ> and change year to something in future 02:34:53 <SmatZ> and let it play for some time :) 02:35:01 <sigmund> Oh, why haven't i thought of that.. :) 02:35:02 <SmatZ> so possible new vehicles are available 02:37:31 <sigmund> Yes, testing that now 02:37:48 <sigmund> will they be appearing over the change to a new month, or will it take longer? 02:38:41 <SmatZ> I think it should appear when the month changes 02:39:14 <SmatZ> but maybe it should appear immediatelly 02:39:41 <sigmund> oh I suddenly started feeling sorry for my passengers, getting on the train in 2027, and arriving sometime in 2150 :o 02:39:52 <SmatZ> hehe 02:40:05 <sigmund> i wouldn't pay for that 02:43:20 <sigmund> Doesn't seem like there is a maglev oil car. Thanks for your help, SmatZ. 02:43:47 <SmatZ> you are welcome, sigmund :) 03:07:10 *** FloSoft [~sifldoer@g230006124.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:08:05 *** FloSoft [~sifldoer@g229113237.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 03:27:27 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: bye] 03:39:57 *** vraa [~vraa@h60.166.30.71.dynamic.ip.windstream.net] has joined #openttd 04:00:17 *** TinoM| [~Tino@i59F5D28E.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 04:00:17 *** elmex [~elmex@e180066123.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:01:21 *** elmex [~elmex@e180068048.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 04:02:29 *** elmex [~elmex@e180068048.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:07:25 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F5F303.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:08:11 *** Kommer_ [~kommer@vestingbar.student.utwente.nl] has joined #openttd 04:08:12 *** Kommer is now known as Guest3821 04:08:12 *** Kommer_ is now known as Kommer 04:08:37 *** roboboy [3aad2910@webchat.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 04:09:59 *** Guest3821 [~kommer@vestingbar.student.utwente.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:15:27 *** `Fuco` [~dota.keys@fuco.sks1.muni.cz] has quit [Quit: Quit] 04:49:09 *** roboman [~Leo@58.173.41.16] has joined #openttd 04:49:21 *** roboman [~Leo@58.173.41.16] has quit [] 04:49:38 *** roboman [~Leo@58.173.41.16] has joined #openttd 04:49:46 *** roboman [~Leo@58.173.41.16] has left #openttd [] 04:57:07 *** davis- [~suckyours@p5B28F83C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:57:54 *** davis- [~suckyours@p5B28FC8C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 05:05:15 *** Sacro [~Ben@adsl-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:46:42 *** benjamingoodger [~ben@host217-44-84-254.range217-44.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: +++ Out Of Cheese Error +++] 05:57:46 *** Tefad [~tefad@c-75-75-0-69.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:08:26 *** Tefad [~tefad@c-75-75-0-69.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 06:41:02 *** Tefad [~tefad@c-75-75-0-69.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:04:20 *** vraa [~vraa@h60.166.30.71.dynamic.ip.windstream.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 07:35:11 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm251.psi148.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:35:49 *** Mark [~M4rk@5ED06979.cable.ziggo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:43:27 *** Celestar [~Jadzia_Da@129.187.69.65] has joined #openttd 07:43:28 *** mode/#openttd [+o Celestar] by ChanServ 07:57:25 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@86.89.201.189] has quit [Quit: COCKBUSTER SLEEP MODE] 08:05:46 *** DASPRiD|off is now known as DASPRiD 08:35:22 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@192.87.217.56] has joined #openttd 08:39:42 *** Yeggzzz is now known as Yeggs-work 08:53:30 *** Bergee [~bergee@c-68-42-180-23.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:06:01 *** Zahl [~Zahl@g226144238.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 09:07:08 <planetmaker> good morning 09:09:31 *** fonso [~fonso@e178070068.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 09:15:27 <Celestar> \o planetmaker 09:15:39 <planetmaker> :) 09:15:42 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 09:15:47 <DASPRiD> gogo pm, make a planet :x 09:15:50 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has left #openttd [] 09:16:07 <planetmaker> :) I'm observing it... it's apower law :) 09:16:17 <DASPRiD> heh 09:16:19 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 09:16:34 *** Zahl [~Zahl@g226144238.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:17:03 *** Tefad [~tefad@c-75-75-0-69.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 09:18:35 <Celestar> so planetmaker, how do hot jupiters form? Is the "migration" theory still state of the art? 09:19:02 <planetmaker> in my understanding: yes. 09:19:17 <Celestar> thanks 09:19:32 <planetmaker> in 4-day orbits won't be sufficient material to form them, even if you go for more than minimum solar mass nebulae. 09:19:54 * Celestar nods 09:20:11 <Celestar> or some effect we don't know/understand yet? 09:21:14 <planetmaker> well. To say "we understand" is certainly stretching it as there's still ongoing discussion. But it's perfectly feasable to migrate planets by means of tidal interaction of them with the surrounding disc. 09:21:41 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B81779.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #openttd [icebears... take care of them!] 09:21:43 <DASPRiD> o,+ 09:21:56 <DASPRiD> planetmaker, why not make a surrounding disk for earth? 09:22:23 <planetmaker> not big enough. 09:22:37 <planetmaker> and we have one: the moon :P 09:23:24 <DASPRiD> thats not really a disk :P 09:23:28 <DASPRiD> (surrounding us) 09:25:53 *** sunkan [sunkan@sunkan.bsnet.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:26:07 *** sunkan [sunkan@sunkan.bsnet.se] has joined #openttd 09:26:43 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 09:26:49 <planetmaker> DASPRiD: I'm not talking about now, but processes which took place here about 4.5 Gyr ago :) 09:27:01 <DASPRiD> ah :x 09:27:08 <DASPRiD> well you are the pm, gogo do it now :P 09:27:21 <planetmaker> you may laugh: we do :P 09:27:22 <DASPRiD> i'll give you some stones for this project :x 09:27:28 <DASPRiD> uhm, we do? :x 09:27:28 *** yorick [yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 09:27:35 <planetmaker> we take your hard earned money and spend it on our toys :) 09:27:44 <DASPRiD> onoz! :( 09:27:55 <DASPRiD> u and your pitty sex toys :/ 09:28:04 <planetmaker> sure, do you think this kind of research is funded by industry? 09:28:17 <planetmaker> it's all tax payers money :) 09:28:33 <DASPRiD> afaik i don't pay taxes :> 09:28:44 <planetmaker> :P your parents then :) 09:28:59 <DASPRiD> not very much, they are teachers :D 09:29:19 <DASPRiD> wait i pay tayes 09:29:21 <DASPRiD> *taxes 09:29:22 <DASPRiD> >_> 09:29:28 <yorick> they teach what? 09:29:41 <DASPRiD> yorick, father: math, physics, informatics 09:29:51 <DASPRiD> mother: latin, german, history 09:30:06 <yorick> >:) 09:30:24 <planetmaker> hehe :) 09:30:34 <yorick> not even ancient greek? 09:30:38 <DASPRiD> i was always bad in the subjects my mother teaches 09:30:44 <DASPRiD> but always perfect in the ones of my father ;) 09:30:47 <DASPRiD> no :> 09:31:52 <Celestar> HE :D 09:40:08 <ln> 'night, hello 09:47:08 <DASPRiD> night? fo :P 09:49:27 <ln> forgot to say that yesterday, saying it now. 09:50:33 <petern> what's a good realtime syslog event parser? 09:50:42 <petern> something that'll catch events and send a notification 09:52:04 *** Flarpuff [flarpuff@corrupted.byteheaven.org] has joined #openttd 09:53:10 <DASPRiD> human brain 09:53:16 <DASPRiD> + tail -f 09:53:24 <planetmaker> :D 09:55:58 <planetmaker> http://backpan.perl.org/authors/id/D/DR/DRAGOS/sshwatch.pl <-- petern: maybe change that to fit your needs. 09:58:40 <petern> DASPRiD, doesn't work when i'm asleep 09:58:56 <petern> and, of course, i have better things to do than watch dozens of log files all day 09:59:28 <petern> planetmaker: that looks pretty irrelevant... 09:59:58 *** mikl [~mikl@0x57372ee2.mrbnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 10:00:08 <planetmaker> well... it watches the syslog and takes an action, if (repeated) entries are found. 10:00:42 <planetmaker> that said, I know it's pretty specific. 10:00:56 <petern> yeah... i need to watch multiple log files and catch multiple events 10:01:37 <planetmaker> make a seperate cron job for each of those files :) ... :P 10:01:44 <DASPRiD> petern, write a small tool in bash or python 10:02:12 <planetmaker> But if you got multiple, different events it might not be best suitable... 10:02:14 <DASPRiD> maybe with an xmpp-bridge :) 10:02:52 <petern> hmm 10:03:42 <Celestar> someone managed to choke our server again :( 10:04:03 *** Korenn [~kvirc@93-125-161-18.dsl.alice.nl] has joined #openttd 10:04:16 <DASPRiD> tail -f myLog | check-script-which-scans-new-lines.sh 10:06:21 <petern> or rather... tail -f /path/to/logs/system/yyyy-mm-dd :o 10:07:15 <DASPRiD> uhm 10:07:26 <DASPRiD> syslog doesnt create such date filenames :x 10:07:37 <petern> syslog-ng does 10:08:01 <petern> when it's configured that way 10:08:01 <petern> and the date filenames are to avoid log rotation 10:08:03 <petern> because log rotation would mess up the file integrity monitor 10:08:22 <petern> i'd have a million alerts every night from files changing 10:09:06 <DASPRiD> heh 10:10:23 *** Zorn [zorn@e177113008.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 10:11:11 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-82-3-235-60.glfd.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #openttd 10:17:18 *** Zorni [zorn@e177113234.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:17:57 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B81779.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 10:18:00 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 10:23:33 *** Vikthor [~novotv6@pc404-15.feld.cvut.cz] has joined #openttd 10:32:11 *** mikl [~mikl@0x57372ee2.mrbnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 10:34:06 *** mikl [~mikl@0x57372ee2.mrbnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 10:34:50 *** mikl [~mikl@0x57372ee2.mrbnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [] 10:39:53 *** mikl [~mikl@0x57372ee2.mrbnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 10:48:23 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:48:25 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 10:48:53 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B81779.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:50:44 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B81371.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 10:50:46 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 10:51:26 <china> :0 10:52:15 <yorick> ? 10:53:18 <Celestar> china? 10:53:20 <Celestar> USA! USA! 10:53:21 <Celestar> :P 10:54:01 <china> :) 10:54:06 *** FloSoft [~sifldoer@g229113237.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: Reconnecting] 10:54:07 *** FloSoft [~sifldoer@g229113237.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 10:54:16 <yorick> no usa! 10:55:05 <china> (im swedish) 10:58:44 <ln> (sorry to hear that) 10:59:05 <china> :( 10:59:16 <china> im never going to use '`ÂŽ again. 10:59:28 <china> you mean mean man 11:00:28 <yorick> (im not swedish) 11:00:55 *** elmex [~elmex@e180068048.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 11:02:19 <ln> (maybe you should be) 11:02:31 <yorick> (why should i?) 11:08:08 <DASPRiD> (you are) 11:09:19 <yorick> (im not) 11:09:29 <yorick> (you are) 11:09:30 <DASPRiD> (you lie 11:09:32 <DASPRiD> ) 11:09:38 <yorick> (no you) 11:09:42 <DASPRiD> (no you!) 11:09:55 <yorick> (you are swedish)(im not swedish) 11:10:10 <DASPRiD> s/you/im 11:11:19 <yorick> im are ? 11:11:22 <yorick> you not? 11:11:40 <Brianetta> F U N E T? 11:11:54 <yorick> ? 11:11:57 <Brianetta> L O 11:12:46 <DASPRiD> ya 11:12:54 <SpComb> funet! 11:14:26 <Brianetta> F U N E M? 11:14:39 <Brianetta> S, V F M 11:15:37 <Brianetta> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkWMcRlE1mQ 11:16:55 <petern> O, V F N N E M 11:17:00 <DASPRiD> http://xkcd.com/505/ 11:17:06 <Brianetta> V F M! 11:17:27 <Brianetta> DASPRiD: It did rock 11:17:36 <petern> M N X N T 11:17:44 <Brianetta> V F N 10 E X 11:18:16 <Brianetta> I F E 10 M 11:20:57 <DASPRiD> P S S I S L! 11:21:33 <petern> what? 11:22:19 <Andel> P M S L O M G M T 11:23:00 <Andel> Brianetta: F U N E X? 11:23:22 <Brianetta> S! V F X 11:23:45 <Andel> I F V M X N T 11:23:55 <DASPRiD> guys, stop it :P 11:24:00 <Brianetta> M X N T 4 1 11:24:03 <Andel> 4 1 11:24:09 <Andel> 9. 11:24:11 <Andel> 4 2 11:24:30 <Andel> 4 U N I 11:24:40 <Brianetta> o k 11:24:51 <SpComb> ^_- >_^ ^_> ^_^ ^_< <_^ -_< >_< 11:25:06 <DASPRiD> _______/)______\o/_______ 11:27:23 <Brianetta> _|\___ 11:27:53 <Eddi|zuHause> *pieeeeeeeeeep* 11:28:04 <Brianetta> pie 11:28:30 <ln> lim SNR -> 0, t->Inf 11:29:26 <Eddi|zuHause> SNR is logarithmic scale, it goes towards -inf 11:31:24 <ln> good to know 11:40:50 <Tefad> wtf. 11:51:28 <Gekz> You people suck worse than a night in Bangkok. 11:51:34 <Gekz> :o 11:53:21 <roboboy> gnight 11:56:26 <ln> night, r 11:56:38 *** roboboy [3aad2910@webchat.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 11:57:10 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77D69.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:57:15 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77D69.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 12:00:51 <petern> Gekz, bitch 12:01:03 <petern> you've earwormed me 12:01:18 <Eddi|zuHause> try loituma ;) 12:01:20 <Gekz> earwormed you say 12:03:45 <petern> Gekz: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgmoEHnUpjk of course 12:06:07 <yorick> why isn't m7 stored in the normal map array? 12:06:37 <petern> alignment 12:06:53 <yorick> always that alignment :/ 12:08:06 <petern> on a regular 256x256 map, it would waste 448KB if it was merged 12:08:34 <petern> 28MB on a 2048x2048 map 12:08:53 <yorick> lets add 7 other bytes to the map array then! 12:09:14 <petern> executive decision! 12:09:26 <yorick> noes, burn me! 12:10:42 <petern> execute yorick! 12:14:42 <Celestar> why the hell do external USB HDDs come with driver CDs?! 12:14:44 <Eddi|zuHause> it burnsss... nasty elves twisted it 12:15:14 <ln> Celestar: Windows 98 12:15:37 <petern> bah, this fetish for widescreen monitors upsets me 12:15:49 <Celestar> ln: uh-huh 12:15:57 <Celestar> petern: well, if the screen is large enough, widescreen is ok 12:16:08 <Eddi|zuHause> Celestar: phoning home drivers... 12:16:09 <petern> hmm, 22" 1920x1080, £162 12:16:16 <Aali> the real question is, why do MONITORS come with driver CDs? 12:16:58 <petern> just in case DDC (or DVI's equivalent) doesn't work 12:17:01 <Eddi|zuHause> Aali: utilities for colour correction and stuff 12:17:53 <Celestar> Eddi|zuHause: The Two Towers, DVD 1 :P 12:17:55 <Aali> Eddi|zuHause: those aren't drivers though 12:17:59 <Aali> petern: i guess 12:18:28 <Eddi|zuHause> Celestar: the strange thing is... i never read or watched it in english... 12:18:32 <Aali> has anyone ever had to install drivers for their monitor though? 12:18:56 <Aali> (DDC usually works) 12:18:57 <Eddi|zuHause> Aali: who says you must put drivers on a driver cd? 12:19:13 <Eddi|zuHause> you can put manuals etc. on there, too 12:19:17 <Celestar> Eddi|zuHause: I never watched it in German 12:19:44 <Aali> Eddi|zuHause: if it doesn't contain any drivers its usually labeled "Utilities disk" or whatever 12:19:50 <Eddi|zuHause> i watched it in cinema 12:19:57 <Celestar> me too 12:20:17 <Celestar> I usually don't watch dubbed movies, neither at home nor in the cinema 12:20:44 <Eddi|zuHause> i watch series much more than movies 12:20:49 <ln> good 12:21:02 <Eddi|zuHause> but movie series fit right into the pattern ;) 12:21:09 <Celestar> you only get dubbed versions of those :( 12:21:21 <Eddi|zuHause> i don't ;) 12:21:42 <Eddi|zuHause> only few series i still watch dubbed... 12:22:04 <ln> were the elvish parts of LotR dubbed into german? 12:22:22 <Celestar> not that I know of, but then again, see above 12:22:22 <Eddi|zuHause> fortunately not ;) 12:22:40 <Celestar> I've once tried to watch one of the HP movies in German. 12:22:43 <Eddi|zuHause> but they dubbed the japanese parts of heroes into german... these idiots 12:22:49 <Celestar> they are soooooo horrible. 12:22:51 <petern> :o 12:23:09 <ln> omg.. that's like.. d'ogh. 12:24:01 <Eddi|zuHause> a dub is pretty much always horrible if you have seen the original 12:24:16 <Celestar> yeah 12:24:24 *** fonso [~fonso@e178070068.adsl.alicedsl.de] has left #openttd [Kopete 0.12.7 : http://kopete.kde.org] 12:24:31 <ln> so when hiro was calling isaac in season 1, isaac said "oh this guy has been calling me over and over again, and speaks only german!"? 12:24:42 <Celestar> I wish there was a channel in Germany that airs the TV series undubbed :S 12:24:52 <yorick> a dub is always horrible 12:25:02 <yorick> *subtitling ftw* 12:25:30 <petern> hmm, i've watched anime dubbed... 12:25:39 <Eddi|zuHause> ln: i heard that the english parts of hiro were dubbed with a very broken german, to keep some of the language barrier effects 12:25:55 <petern> i can't read subtitles and follow what's onscreen at the same time... 12:26:09 <yorick> you need to be trained :p 12:26:12 <Eddi|zuHause> subtitling is bad... 12:26:30 <Eddi|zuHause> i have given up subtitles after like 1 year of watching non-dubbed shows 12:26:31 <yorick> only the anime channels are dubbed over here 12:26:37 <Celestar> I don't think subtitling is that bad 12:27:00 <yorick> you do not have to read the subtitles, either 12:27:07 <Eddi|zuHause> you have to watch everything twice 12:27:11 <ln> subtitling isn't bad, but it's not 100% good either. 12:27:12 <Eddi|zuHause> once to follow the subtitles 12:27:32 <Eddi|zuHause> and once to get every small detail in the screen that you missed because of focusing on the subtitles 12:28:11 <Celestar> well. 12:28:13 <yorick> subtitling at least gives you the choice of ignoring it 12:28:21 <Celestar> Have you never watched a movie twice Eddi|zuHause ? 12:28:28 <Eddi|zuHause> for people who don't speak the original language, subtitling is definitely worse than dubbing 12:29:05 <Eddi|zuHause> Celestar: i have, but only ones that are really good... not EVERY movie 12:29:06 <yorick> small children over here learn to understand english from the subtitles :) 12:29:26 <Celestar> Eddi|zuHause: subtitling is a good way to learn the original language 12:29:35 <ln> yorick: small children can't read 12:30:00 <yorick> ln, I mean the small children who are just big enough to read the subtitles and do not learn english at school yet 12:30:11 <Eddi|zuHause> Celestar: that may be true, but only when you a) have basic knowledge over the original language already, and b) are actually interested in learning 12:30:32 <yorick> you are mistaken there... 12:31:01 <Celestar> give people a choice :) 12:31:05 <Celestar> like with DVDs 12:31:12 <Celestar> it's no problem to do that with aired TV shows 12:31:15 <yorick> you didn't have basic knowledge of your native language when you started learning it, did you? 12:31:16 <Eddi|zuHause> yorick: i have seen a few japanese films with subtitles, and i maybe learned 2 words from those 12:31:24 <ln> i asked some of my classmates in senior high (a long time ago) whether they listen to the (english) dialogue besides reading subtitles, and i was shocked when most of them said no. 12:31:33 <Celestar> it's been around in Germany for two decades, but is very very rarely used. 12:31:36 <yorick> a few...is not enough 12:32:10 <yorick> maybe dutch just form an exception 12:32:21 <Celestar> yeah 12:32:22 <Eddi|zuHause> yorick: when it would be more than "a few", taking a japanese course would definitely be more effective 12:32:34 <Celestar> Eddi|zuHause: but much less fun. 12:32:35 <Celestar> then again.. 12:32:35 <ln> btw, subtitles nor the ability to read are not required to learn a foreign language from tv. 12:32:58 <Celestar> I have *once* tried to watch Star Trek in french. I stopped after 10 minutes because I was laughing so hard 12:33:07 <Eddi|zuHause> hehe ;) 12:33:32 <Eddi|zuHause> reminds me when i was in that star wars attraction in eurodisney ;) 12:33:56 <ln> also dutch subtitles with TNG are extremely funny. :) 12:34:09 <Celestar> Yay! French-speaking Darth Vader is a bit of a joke too :P 12:34:13 *** mikl [~mikl@0x57372ee2.mrbnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:34:52 <Celestar> bah 12:34:57 <davis-> cant take him serious then? 12:35:02 <Celestar> not really 12:35:04 <Eddi|zuHause> french is a language where even the insults sound like love pledges ;) 12:35:10 * Celestar fires a quantum torpedo into his server room 12:35:10 <davis-> true lol 12:35:12 <davis-> merdeee 12:35:43 <Celestar> Eddi|zuHause: and Russian is a language where even a joyful cryout resembles a funeral :P 12:36:12 <Eddi|zuHause> you hear that in their music, too ;) 12:37:35 <ln> so... which famous actors/actresses dub themselves into german? sandra bullock? 12:37:38 <Celestar> heh 12:37:45 <Celestar> ln: afaik no one 12:37:50 <Celestar> not even arnie 12:38:09 *** murray [murray@pc4042.stdby.hin.no] has quit [Quit: leaving] 12:38:26 <Celestar> "Brilliance" ... what kind of car maker is that? 12:38:54 <Eddi|zuHause> Peter Ustinov did 12:39:10 <Eddi|zuHause> but nobody understood him, so they dubbed him again ;) 12:39:15 <Celestar> haha 12:39:27 <ln> i can't find a source right now, but Sandra Bullock has been mentioned. she has german background and german citizenship. 12:39:38 <Celestar> I've seen Germans being dubbed in German news shows 12:40:10 <Celestar> A Chinese car maker that is 12:40:44 <Rubidium> Like Yoda that sounds 12:41:00 <Eddi|zuHause> you wouldn't want arnie to dub himself either... he'd sound like darth vader in french ;) 12:41:07 <Celestar> yeah 12:41:22 <Eddi|zuHause> everybody would just laugh at him all the time :p 12:41:34 <Celestar> The Chinese have pretty feeble attempts at producing cars for the German market 12:42:14 <Eddi|zuHause> everybody knows that germans only buy french cars... 12:42:19 <Celestar> I don't 12:42:36 <Celestar> not after my past experiences with a Renault Clio and a Citroen C5 12:43:13 <Celestar> I prefer a car that actually has working brakes 12:43:18 <Brianetta> Jodie Foster dubbed herself in French for Nim's Island 12:43:59 <Brianetta> and others 12:44:29 <Celestar> Brillanace managed to make a mid-class (about 3-series-sized) car with a 100HP, 1.6 liter engine that consumes 8L/100km in the ECE cycle :o 12:45:29 <Celestar> what is this, 1972? 12:45:54 <petern> 3-series-sized? 12:46:30 <Celestar> BMW 3-series. 12:46:34 <Celestar> Mercedes C-class 12:46:45 <Celestar> Audi A4 12:46:47 <Celestar> about that size 12:47:45 <Qball> hmm 12:47:46 <Celestar> just costs half as much (about) ;) 12:47:58 <petern> ah, german centric view :p 12:48:21 <Celestar> petern: well, Skoda Oktavia? 12:48:33 <Qball> lada! 12:48:47 <petern> that's just an audi 12:49:00 <Eddi|zuHause> well, but with the rate of development going on in china, they could well be in 1992 in 5 years, 2012 in another 5 years, and 5 years later... 12:49:19 <petern> anyway, those are large cars from my pov, heh 12:50:59 <Eddi|zuHause> china is the new USA... a little behind in science, but extremely good at mass production 12:51:18 <china> wait 12:51:19 <china> what. 12:51:42 <china> america has never been known for mass production. 12:51:54 <china> not in near comparison to the eastern business life. 12:52:02 <Eddi|zuHause> wait, where was the conveyor belt introduced again 12:52:02 <Celestar> petern: mid-sized imho 12:52:14 <Celestar> petern: large cars (german view): 7 series, S-Class, A8 12:52:34 <Eddi|zuHause> USA were definitely THE mass producing country in the first half of the 20th century 12:52:48 <china> what on earth does that have to do with general mass production? the conveyor belt is a big thing, but it cant be compared to a whole other industry. :) 12:53:17 <china> and isnt the first patent german, by the way. :/ 12:53:25 <Eddi|zuHause> a conveyor belt was introduced in the car industry... what kind of industry are we talking about right now? 12:53:46 <Eddi|zuHause> what did i say about scientific development? 12:54:07 <china> oh, i jumped in by pure context, i have no idea what the discussion was about. 12:54:08 <china> :D 12:54:18 <china> Eddi|zuHause> a conveyor belt was introduced in the car industry 12:54:38 <Eddi|zuHause> "introduced" != "invented" 12:54:44 <china> yes, thank you. 12:54:49 <china> now you've won, ill leave. 12:55:06 <Eddi|zuHause> you have a "'" too much there ;) 12:55:10 <china> :) 12:55:22 <Eddi|zuHause> you swore to never use them again 12:55:29 <china> you're, youve - right? 12:55:32 <china> oh. 12:55:39 <ln> china: sorry to hear you are ill. 12:55:42 <china> well, one tries. 12:56:38 <Celestar> there are no more "conveyor belts" in the car industry 12:57:11 <Eddi|zuHause> german car industry is closing down completely, anyway ;) 12:57:21 <china> the mailroom industry used conveyor systems in the late 1880s. "introducing" it demanded a more open industry, and i guess that would be the car industry. 12:57:39 <china> not to change subjects, but i really loved that job 12:57:40 <Eddi|zuHause> since they sold the hybrid technology to the japanese... 12:58:18 <Celestar> Eddi|zuHause: what makes you think so? 12:59:12 <Eddi|zuHause> well, several car producers are stopping production for like 2 months 12:59:21 <Celestar> yeah. 12:59:26 <Celestar> same for non-German ones :P 13:00:35 <Eddi|zuHause> anyway, fuel prices dropped like 30ct/l, maybe it'll recover ;) 13:00:59 <china> oprah winfrey actually shows something good today 13:01:10 <Eddi|zuHause> fuel cost like 1,47â¬/l a few months ago, now it's 1,17â¬/l 13:01:31 <ln> how much is diesel? 13:01:37 <china> gas prices has got lowered severly here. though its still one of the more ..expencive ones. 13:01:40 <Eddi|zuHause> around the same 13:01:41 <china> :< 13:01:50 <mrfrenzy> diesel is also fuel :P 13:01:53 <china> 10,64 Swedish kronor = 1,32198808 U.S. dollars 13:01:56 <china> that's a litre. 13:02:07 <Eddi|zuHause> who cares about $? 13:02:11 <Celestar> ln: 1.21EUR this morning at my place (= 13:02:33 <china> i was guessing the majority here was american - and usd is more easy to relate to for non-swedes. 13:02:39 <Eddi|zuHause> ln: diesel is typically 2 to 5ct cheaper 13:02:52 <petern> 52.9p/l for lpg at the moment 13:02:56 <china> oh, now i see the € 13:03:04 <Eddi|zuHause> there was never an american majority here... 13:03:15 <Eddi|zuHause> there's hardly even an american minority :p 13:03:25 <china> :o 13:03:28 <Eddi|zuHause> i'd say there are more sweedes here than americans :p 13:03:35 <china> ah, ok. 13:04:04 <ln> diesel is like 1,09â¬/l here currently, but finland has this additional tax for diesel vehicles, which explains the "cheap" fuel. 13:04:04 <Eddi|zuHause> the majority here always was british, dutch and german 13:04:12 <china> neat 13:04:13 <petern> hmm, which is â¬0.62/l 13:05:47 <petern> it was below half the cost of petrol for ages :o 13:05:53 <petern> alas... 13:06:07 <Celestar> diesel rocks 13:06:12 <Celestar> we only have diesel cars 13:06:25 <petern> it is still below half the cost of diesel, heh 13:06:33 <Celestar> makes sense at 30Mm and 55Mm / a for the two cars 13:06:56 <china> 1: its a tractor. 13:07:12 <china> 2: diesel smells crap and is not really enviromental 13:07:17 <china> 3: really, its a tractor. 13:07:29 <china> but thats my bitter opinion 13:07:34 <yorick> bio-diesel? 13:07:37 <Celestar> china: that is a VERY old opinion 13:07:47 <mrfrenzy> diesel is a lot more environmental than gasoline 13:07:51 <ln> we also have this other kind of fuel which is essentially the same as diesel, but is cheaper (lower tax). 13:07:53 <mrfrenzy> due to it's higher efficiency 13:08:00 <Celestar> china: apparently, you have no idea about modern diesel engines 13:08:05 <china> Celestar: well, i dont really know about the smell and the enviromental part by fact, i basiclly feel its a tractor. 13:08:05 <Eddi|zuHause> diesel cars got very popular in the past few years 13:08:08 <china> no, not really. 13:08:15 <Celestar> china: what feels like a tractor about it? 13:08:18 * china drives a 08 prius 13:08:25 <petern> i know environmentally friendly is quite long, but substituting "environmental" does not make sense 13:08:30 <Eddi|zuHause> the increased demand for a short time even made diesel more expensive than normal fuel 13:08:42 <Celestar> I've test-driven the 07 prius and ditched it. 13:09:01 <Celestar> it's a great car as long as you stay clear of any highways. 13:09:02 <petern> Celestar, maybe all the torque? :) 13:09:08 <mrfrenzy> you entered the turn with too high velocity? that's a sure way to ditch a car :P 13:09:14 <Celestar> petern: what torque?! 13:09:19 <Celestar> I didn't feel any torque 13:09:21 <petern> in a diesel 13:09:23 <china> i really like it. and im suprised i still enjoy driving it after using my other car in longer hours.. 13:09:37 <china> Celestar: yes, thats why i bought two cars instead. -.- 13:09:40 <mrfrenzy> well that's what the prius is good for, driving too and from the supermarket 13:09:43 <mrfrenzy> not on the highway 13:09:48 <petern> i walk to the supermarker 13:09:52 <petern> -r+t 13:10:01 * Celestar is happy with his A180 CDI 13:10:10 <Eddi|zuHause> mrfrenzy: have you ever been on a german highway? you either have to be fast, or you get crushed between the lorries 13:10:23 <Celestar> Eddi|zuHause: what is "fast" in your opinion? 13:10:27 <mrfrenzy> Eddi|zuHause: that's exactly what I said. please read again 13:10:36 <Celestar> Eddi|zuHause: in normal rush our traffic, I go around 100km/h highway. 13:10:38 <mrfrenzy> the prius is useless on the highway 13:10:57 <Celestar> and the Prius guzzles about as much fuel as our 535d on the highway 13:10:58 <Eddi|zuHause> well, depending on the highway... 13:11:14 <Eddi|zuHause> on a "free" highway, you are really lost if you can't even hold 130 properly 13:11:28 <petern> what's 130 in real money? 13:11:38 <Celestar> petern: about 85 mph 13:11:44 <Eddi|zuHause> top speed in most countries ;) 13:11:49 <Celestar> er .. 80mph, sorry 13:12:01 <petern> oh 13:12:07 <petern> my 0.9l uno did 80mph okay :p 13:12:16 <petern> uh 13:12:21 <petern> well maybe okay downhill 13:12:23 <Celestar> that's my "comfortable long rage cruise speed". 13:12:29 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 13:12:32 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 13:12:33 <Celestar> if I'm in a hurry .. it's more.. 13:12:39 <yorick> do industries have more than 3 bits to spare? 13:12:42 <Celestar> 90mph, 100mph ... 125 ... 13:12:49 * yorick would need 6 13:12:55 <Eddi|zuHause> well, driving 150 on a free highway is not uncommon for me 13:12:58 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 13:13:08 <petern> 79 is about the limit here 13:13:24 <Celestar> the fastest car I drove was a BMW 750hL 13:13:25 <petern> mph 13:13:29 <Eddi|zuHause> limit? on the highway? blasphemy!!! :p 13:13:38 <Tefad> germany ftw? 13:13:40 <Celestar> about 290km/h ... 13:13:47 <china> .. 13:13:49 <Celestar> with cryogenic hydrogen fuel 13:13:52 <china> but hey 13:14:05 <china> autobahn doesnt have that long paths of unrestricted speed, right? 13:14:12 <Celestar> china: er ... 13:14:18 <china> hey, im askin. 13:14:18 <Eddi|zuHause> china: about 70% is unrestricted, or something 13:14:23 <Celestar> you can go from Munich to Berlin basically unrestricted. 13:14:24 <china> oh, shoot. 13:14:31 <Celestar> that's 540km 13:14:41 <Eddi|zuHause> that wasn't the case 10 years ago, Celestar ;) 13:14:42 <china> thats ..just dumb. 13:14:42 <Rubidium> so a 2 hours drive ;) 13:15:11 <Eddi|zuHause> you had to go 60km/h through most of the construction areas on the A9 ;) 13:15:17 <Celestar> well you have 7km in Munich limited to 80km/h. then about 3km at the Kindinger Berg at 80km/h, Around Nuremburg there are 20km to 120km/h, .... 13:15:22 <Celestar> Rubidium: I never managed two hours :P 13:15:36 <china> i dont really enjoy driving on a road where other might drive as fast as they can. 13:15:40 <Celestar> Rubidium: but I've seen people trying to race the ICE which runs parallel for 70km. 13:15:51 <Celestar> chasing the ICE-T is possible, it gets difficult with the ICE3. 13:15:59 <petern> got a veyron? 13:16:06 <Celestar> nope. 13:16:22 <petern> top gear should've tested that on the autobahn instead of the autoroute... 13:16:28 <Celestar> you can't chase them in a Vayron for sure. 13:16:32 <Celestar> Veyron* 13:16:39 <Celestar> by the time you catch up, you're outta fuel. 13:16:43 <Rubidium> petern: don't think changing the tyres every 15 minutes is beneficial for the average speed 13:17:01 <Celestar> but 3 hours from Munich to Berlin .. we did that once. 13:17:06 <Celestar> but it was the middle of the night. 13:17:46 <Celestar> couldn't do more, because our car has a software speed limiter ;( 13:17:49 <Eddi|zuHause> going at that kind of speed is a little dangerous, if some guy pulls out to the left lane at 130km/h 13:18:16 <Celestar> Eddi|zuHause: people pull out to the left lane at 82km/h these days :S 13:18:29 <Celestar> without even looking back for a millisecond. 13:18:49 <petern> the left lane is the slow lane 13:18:56 <petern> you people should drive on the correct side 13:19:12 <Eddi|zuHause> we _ARE_ driving on the right side ;) 13:19:24 <Eddi|zuHause> ergo, you are driving on the wrong side 13:19:33 <Eddi|zuHause> there's only right or wrong ;) 13:19:53 <ln> but petern can hold his sword in the right hand. 13:20:33 <Rubidium> Celestar: chasing the ICE here is relatively easy :( 13:20:41 <Celestar> Rubidium: yeah :( 13:20:58 <Celestar> I might be using the ICE from Paris to Frankfurt in a few weeks. 13:21:09 <Celestar> this is the most embarassing route I've ever seen. 13:21:21 <Eddi|zuHause> what? they are limited because the magnetic brakes pull the track equipment with them? 13:21:44 <Celestar> Eddi|zuHause: no, because they run DC 13:22:13 <Eddi|zuHause> err... that sounds like not the brightest idea ;) 13:22:36 <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause: they can run faster, but then they need seatbelts due to the "turbulence" 13:22:36 <Celestar> well, that's the Netherlands :P 13:23:39 <orudge> you are driving on the wrong side, petern is correct! 13:23:54 <orudge> this late message brought to you by orudge 13:23:55 <Rubidium> yup... only going for the draft-specced stuff and then complaining they had to change the whole signalling system because the specs (still in draft) changed.. 13:24:13 <Celestar> the ICE takes 1:50 from Paris to SaarbrÃŒcken (almost 400km), and then 2 hours from SaarbrÃŒcken to Frankfurt (less than 200km) 13:24:13 <Eddi|zuHause> orudge: so you want to argue that petern is driving on the right side? 13:24:23 <orudge> the correct side 13:24:48 <orudge> which is the left side! 13:25:24 <Eddi|zuHause> hm... i'm pretty sure there was an asterix scene concerning that problem... 13:25:42 <Celestar> I remember that one too 13:31:15 *** Antdovu [~Otinn@vpn2-091.vpn.net.ed.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 13:31:19 *** Vikthor [~novotv6@pc404-15.feld.cvut.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:32:19 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B755EE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 13:36:07 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77D69.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:38:17 *** yorick [yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:45:49 *** Eddi|zuHause2 is now known as Eddi|zuHause 13:52:04 *** yorick [yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 13:57:52 <ln> omg, sylar from heroes as a vulcan in next star trek. 13:58:20 <Eddi|zuHause> what a NEW message... 13:58:27 <Eddi|zuHause> welcome to last year... 13:59:22 <Eddi|zuHause> btw. all thank for the writers' strike, or they would have to had have sylar written out of villains for his star trek absence 13:59:32 <ln> wouldn't be surprising if he had some mind reading capabilities. 14:00:15 <Eddi|zuHause> the "to" is in the wrong place, i think 14:00:54 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@fuco.sks1.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 14:03:22 <yorick> OWNER_WATER can't remove a buoy? 14:04:26 <DASPRiD> Eddi alone at home :x 14:13:12 <ln> Eddi|zuHause: are there any other CURRENT news that i'm going to learn about next year? 14:13:20 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@fuco.sks1.muni.cz] has quit [Quit: Quit] 14:14:04 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm251.psi148.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #openttd 14:14:30 <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, Seth Rogan is making a "porno" for showtime 14:14:39 <Eddi|zuHause> *Rogen 14:17:37 <ln> only Seth Rogen is an unknown name to me. 14:18:02 <Eddi|zuHause> he will be, next year ;) 14:19:39 <Eddi|zuHause> from films like "knocked up" and "superbad" 14:20:39 <Celestar> ok 14:20:42 * Celestar looks at cargodest 14:20:45 <Celestar> what needs doing? 14:20:59 <Eddi|zuHause> load balancing :p 14:21:06 <Eddi|zuHause> merging into trunk ;) 14:21:06 <Celestar> yeah, I'm on that 14:21:26 <Celestar> but all attempts I have made now are not really satisfactory 14:22:47 <Celestar> I need some damping system 14:24:13 <Celestar> but I'm closing in 14:24:21 <Celestar> testing it is difficult however 14:24:23 <Eddi|zuHause> well, i could imagine, for each outgoing route from a station, you search the connections from that next station to the target, you get a list with possible routes, and then you assign them chances. 14:24:47 <Celestar> you don't HAVE a list with possible routes 14:24:49 <Eddi|zuHause> and then each passenger that arrives here, will get assigned into one of those "pots" with that random chance 14:25:04 <Celestar> the problem is, you I have oscilations 14:25:06 <Eddi|zuHause> no, but you have a list of outgoing edges 14:25:12 <Celestar> spelling* 14:26:00 <Eddi|zuHause> and for each of these outgoing edges, you look for the best route that starts with this edge 14:26:01 <Celestar> but I'll get there soon. 14:26:04 <Celestar> I feel it (= 14:26:19 *** valhalla1w [~valhallas@a62-251-30-68.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 14:26:24 <Eddi|zuHause> this will not yield all routes, but a sufficiently large subset 14:27:00 <Eddi|zuHause> it's easily calculatable, and static 14:28:33 <Celestar> my idea is to somewhat increase the weight of "overcrowded" edges 14:28:56 <Eddi|zuHause> but that sounds very dynamic 14:28:56 <Celestar> only once per month or something 14:29:04 <Eddi|zuHause> which you wanted to avoid 14:29:52 <Eddi|zuHause> well, you could split the station rating for each outgoing edge 14:29:58 <Eddi|zuHause> and use that as base for a rating 14:30:03 <Eddi|zuHause> of that edge 14:33:17 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@a62-251-30-68.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:34:10 *** nekx [~asd@0x3e42e6e6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 14:35:08 <Celestar> once per month is not bad 14:36:12 <Eddi|zuHause> do you remember how bad the hiccups of the old patch were at the end of each month? 14:36:17 <Celestar> yeah 14:36:19 <Celestar> very bad 14:36:20 <Celestar> (= 14:36:35 <Celestar> but at the end of month, in this case, means only to mark the cache as dirty 14:37:01 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, and over the course of the next day, you have to rebuild it 14:38:03 <Antdovu> what was the problem with the old patch? 14:38:24 <Eddi|zuHause> you could also increase the cache size, to look more than one hop ahead, but i'm not sure how far that will help in getting "shareable" routes 14:38:52 <Eddi|zuHause> Antdovu: manyfold 14:39:48 <Celestar> Antdovu: "the" problem? ;) 14:40:12 <Celestar> you mean apart from it desyncing all over the place and needing a supercomputer to run a 256 map? (= 14:40:46 <Eddi|zuHause> Celestar: what may also be a good idea is to isolate "central" nodes of the network, and calculate a full graph between them. then, for each non-central node, you cache the routes to one or more of the central nodes 14:41:13 <Eddi|zuHause> it might reduce the size of the problem 14:41:17 <Celestar> Eddi|zuHause: I'd first have a more sophisticated destination-generation system. 14:41:25 <Celestar> Eddi|zuHause: like creating much more local passengers 14:41:53 <Eddi|zuHause> poisson-distribution? 14:42:00 <Celestar> possibly 14:42:42 <Celestar> but we need some fractional data type for that 14:42:47 <Rubidium> I'd go for poison-distribution; makes it much easier ;) 14:42:54 <Celestar> lol 14:43:01 <Eddi|zuHause> you have one, in the gamebalance branch ;) 14:43:07 <Celestar> I know 14:43:19 <Celestar> I'm just wondering whether 3^n can be computed with it (= 14:44:20 <Celestar> I think I need a cargodest2 branch. use cargodest to finish what we currently have and a new one for all the new nifty features :P 14:45:30 <Celestar> petern: did you find time to pin down that refit-desync problem? 14:45:46 <Antdovu> you know what they say about the second project of a person? 14:46:03 <Belugas> that it's not the first? 14:46:07 <Celestar> hm .. I won't need e^n 14:46:11 <Antdovu> it is the most dangerous one 14:46:30 <Antdovu> trying to fit every cool feature in it 14:46:30 <Celestar> cargodest is my nth project where n > 2 14:46:51 <Antdovu> I'm guessing that simpler/smaller ones don't count 14:46:55 <Celestar> I could use a poisson distribution with a constant lambda 14:47:06 <Celestar> Antdovu: multistop wasn't a smaller one (= 14:48:28 <Antdovu> you may assume that I don't know who has done what ;) 14:48:42 <Celestar> assuming ... 14:49:50 <Eddi|zuHause> not even elrails was a smaller project ;) 14:49:59 <Celestar> heh 14:50:04 <Eddi|zuHause> and that's over 2 years ago 14:50:11 <Celestar> hm .. I need a multi-variate poisson distribution 14:51:11 <Eddi|zuHause> you need a distribution for rough direction, a distribution for rough distance, and a distribution for target within an x-tile-radius of that rough location 14:51:38 <Celestar> rough city size 14:52:37 *** mortal` [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 14:52:42 *** Doorslammer [Doorslamme@PIPP-p-203-54-229-11.prem.tmns.net.au] has joined #openttd 14:53:14 <Eddi|zuHause> well, for each 32x32 block of map you could cache the population, then you choose a block based on distance and population, then you choose a target within that block 14:53:40 <Eddi|zuHause> could also increase the block size for larger maps 14:54:35 <Antdovu> hint: use the simplest solution that gets the job done 14:55:42 <Eddi|zuHause> Antdovu: that's not the problem, with most balance prolbems, the problem is what the "job" is 14:56:45 <Eddi|zuHause> Antdovu: which means you look for some solutions of "a job", and then you decide, if some of these "a job"s could be "the job" 14:58:22 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:58:55 <Eddi|zuHause> finding proper target locations would be much easier if you could assume that the whole map starts with a full network 14:59:12 <Eddi|zuHause> then you don't have problems with a location not being reachable 14:59:24 <Celestar> which kind of defeats the point :P 15:00:19 <Eddi|zuHause> well, yes, the point would then be to be more effective than this "default" connection [walking, driving by own car, ...] 15:00:46 <Eddi|zuHause> could also mean a new way of balancing the game over time 15:01:08 <Eddi|zuHause> people in 1880 would much more likely to be willing to walk 2km to the next station than people in 1990 15:02:08 <Eddi|zuHause> which could simulate one of the reasons for closing down many branch lines in the 1950's and 1960's 15:02:16 <Belugas> realism shows his ugly head 15:02:41 <Celestar> let's first get the current version in trunk (= 15:02:47 <Eddi|zuHause> it's not about realism 15:02:52 <Eddi|zuHause> it's about gamebalance 15:03:19 <Eddi|zuHause> which should at least occasionally try to resemble a model of reality 15:03:26 *** Doorslammer [Doorslamme@PIPP-p-203-54-229-11.prem.tmns.net.au] has quit [Quit: I'll get you next episode, Inspector Gadget! NEXT EPISODE!] 15:04:18 <Belugas> sneaky 15:04:55 <Eddi|zuHause> well, this "walking x distance" thing is currently being modeled by station catchment areas 15:05:00 <Eddi|zuHause> but these are constant 15:07:48 <Brianetta> How about catchment areas that can't cross rivers and seas without a bridge? 15:08:30 <Brianetta> Additional up-side: That artificial island to server the oil rig wouldn't work 15:08:37 <Belugas> TMWFTLB 15:08:40 <ln> that's a good idea -- therefore it can't be done. 15:08:52 <Brianetta> Belugas: Sez you. 15:09:03 *** ln was kicked from #openttd by Belugas [I can do that, tough] 15:09:34 <Brianetta> What's the B for? 15:09:41 <Celestar> what's the REST for? 15:09:43 <Brianetta> Oh, must be benefit 15:09:58 <Celestar> ah got it 15:10:07 *** ln [~lanurm@castor.utu.fi] has joined #openttd 15:10:31 <Brianetta> I'm going to have to remember TMWFTLB. 15:10:34 <Belugas> benefit indeed 15:10:39 <Brianetta> I can use it not to bother with all sorts of stuff. 15:19:40 *** Sacro [~Ben@adsl-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 15:19:42 *** jakub_ [~jakub@adsl-dyn114.91-127-145.t-com.sk] has joined #openttd 15:19:54 *** jakub_ is now known as JamesSVK 15:20:04 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@161-18-80-78.strcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has joined #openttd 15:20:05 <JamesSVK> hi all 15:20:13 <ln> hi 15:20:16 <JamesSVK> can anyone help me with translation? 15:20:29 <DASPRiD> can = kann (german) 15:20:30 <DASPRiD> next one 15:20:34 <Sacro> into what language? 15:20:45 <JamesSVK> writing plurals 15:20:46 <Sacro> and also from 15:21:02 <ln> DASPRiD: coke kann? 15:21:31 <JamesSVK> in SVK the Train mean Vlak, plural Vlaky 15:21:44 <JamesSVK> i use this notation 15:22:00 <JamesSVK> {WHITE}{WAYPOINT} - {COMMA} Vlak{P "" y} 15:22:07 <JamesSVK> and still reporting error 15:22:51 <yorick> hi jamesSVK 15:24:26 <JamesSVK> hi yorick 15:24:32 <JamesSVK> nice to see you man 15:24:48 <JamesSVK> reporting this: STR_WAYPOINT_VIEWPORT_LIST: Language command 'P' requires different number of parameters! 15:24:52 *** yorick [yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:25:04 *** yorick [yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 15:25:36 <JamesSVK> what i can do? 15:26:48 <yorick> what language? 15:27:03 <JamesSVK> SVK 15:27:13 <JamesSVK> read meesages above 15:27:43 <yorick> what's SVK? 15:29:45 <yorick> it seems like it requires a different number of parameters 15:30:04 <JamesSVK> what parametres? 15:30:09 <JamesSVK> give me an example 15:30:25 <yorick> http://wiki.openttd.org/wiki/index.php/FormatOfLangfiles#Plural_form 15:31:11 <yorick> STR_QUANTITY_MAIL :{COMMA} postsÀck{P "" ar} 15:31:14 <JamesSVK> ive read them 15:31:31 <JamesSVK> i understand 15:31:34 <JamesSVK> i use it 15:31:41 <JamesSVK> see this 15:31:46 <JamesSVK> {WHITE}{WAYPOINT} - {COMMA} Vlak{P "" y} 15:31:52 <JamesSVK> and report as error 15:32:59 <Rubidium> JamesSVK: in slovak there are 3 forms of "plural" 15:33:06 <yorick> it's slovak? 15:33:22 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590ff198.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #openttd 15:33:39 <yorick> "special cases for numbers ending in 1 and 2, 3, 4, except those ending in 1[1-4] " 15:33:39 <JamesSVK> yes 15:33:49 <JamesSVK> so the syntax is? 15:33:59 <yorick> {COMMA} balik{P "" y ov} posty 15:34:01 <Rubidium> {P param1 param2 param3} 15:34:07 <JamesSVK> ahh 15:34:12 <DaleStan> Might it be better if the message was "Language command 'P' requires %d parameters!"? 15:34:12 <JamesSVK> thanks a lot 15:34:15 <JamesSVK> yes 15:35:07 <Rubidium> plural 1 is for "ends with 1, but not 11", 2 is for ends with 2, 3 or 4 but not 12, 13 or 14 and 3 is for the rest 15:35:43 <JamesSVK> yes 15:35:47 <JamesSVK> i understant 15:35:57 <JamesSVK> its working thanks guys 15:36:36 <JamesSVK> ok, slovak translation is now 100% 15:38:19 <yorick> "STR_7073_WORLD_RECESSION_FINANCIAL" <-- never seen that ingame 15:38:46 <frosch123> you have to activate "fluctuating economy" 15:39:18 <yorick> that could matter :p 15:40:38 *** M4rk [~M4rk@5ED06979.cable.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 15:40:44 *** M4rk is now known as Mark 15:40:53 <Eddi|zuHause> i've had a recession in the old game 15:41:00 *** AgentLeMan [~AgentLeMa@BAF76a3.baf.pppool.de] has joined #openttd 15:45:06 <AgentLeMan> hello :o) 15:45:10 <AgentLeMan> quesiton : how is the type of window defined? as there are some you can close and some you can move, some not though, like the introscreenwindow. and then theres that errormessagewindow, which closes by itself and can be closed by rightclicking on the titlebar. 15:46:11 <planetmaker> AgentLeMan: you keep asking that. The easiest solution is: look at the source files. It's a base window class. 15:46:22 <planetmaker> with a number of derivatives. 15:48:42 *** Jango [~daniel@78-86-166-80.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 15:48:49 <Jango> morning 15:50:49 <yorick> good afternoon 15:50:53 <AgentLeMan> planetmaker, i practically READ window.cpp and window.h like the newspapers. i guess it shold be DeleteWindow(w) but all of its occurencies dont fit. and yes, i keep asking, because seemingly im some kind of freak who wants to know things to be able to compile the source nad never getting any help. 15:51:45 <AgentLeMan> apart from glx so far 15:51:57 <planetmaker> then read window_type.h 15:52:00 <DaleStan> How the windows are defined is not relevant to the execution of ./configure && make. 15:52:46 <AgentLeMan> dale, yes, that were different cases, with the compiling glx helped me 15:52:54 <DaleStan> And grepping for non-existence (e.g. of window-moving or window-closing code) is rather difficult. 15:54:54 <DaleStan> Study one window. Figure out absolutely everything works. Then find the other windows and figure out how they differ. 15:55:15 <Rubidium> AgentLeMan: window descs and basically all On<something> functions influence the behaviour of the window 15:55:16 <planetmaker> now, that you've looked into window_type.h, you notice there are about 3 dozen different window classes. So what do you expect people will answer to your question which one could write books about, AgentLeMan ? 15:55:31 <DaleStan> If you wanted to know for TTDPatch, I could be more descriptive, but OpenTTD's windowing system looks nothing like Patch's. 15:55:43 <AgentLeMan> dale, i found something, one of the things i want to try is making all windows close by rightclicking their titlebar, like the red errorwindow, at least i found that now 15:56:29 <AgentLeMan> planetmaker, "So what do you expect people will answer to your question which one could write books about, AgentLeMan ?" pretty simple : say any thing at all, not just total ignorance 15:57:35 <planetmaker> wrong. look u in DaleStan forum signature the link on how to ask a good question 15:58:00 <planetmaker> people have better things on their mind and time than trying go get you spit out your real question. 15:59:18 <planetmaker> ^^ insert a p where appropriate. 15:59:28 <AgentLeMan> oh, im sorry. this isnt then a place for socializing and growing the community. my fault. 16:00:04 <Rubidium> it's more that there are like 95% people who no very little to nothing of the code 16:00:08 <DaleStan> OK, I'll say something: "Right-clicking on the titlebar" is not the actual condition. 16:00:30 <Rubidium> and like 95% of the people in here are pretty busy with real life 16:01:10 <DaleStan> And the 5% who know the code are far more likely to be in the 95% that are busy with Real Life. 16:01:18 * tokai is part of that 190% :) 16:01:27 <planetmaker> :P 16:01:34 <yorick> he said something! 16:02:29 <AgentLeMan> DaleStan, sorry, why then be in IRC(hat) :o) 16:02:35 <AgentLeMan> but, i think i found it 16:03:13 <AgentLeMan> i guess i have to put in "if (_right_button_down) DeleteWindow(w);" as "case WE_MOUSELOOP:" into each windowclass to make it work 16:03:56 <DaleStan> So that when people say "DaleStan: Why does $FOO say/do $BAR instead of $BAZ?", I can hear it and answer when I have the time, instead of being completely oblivious. 16:04:02 <AgentLeMan> Rubidium, oh... i thought, this is mainly a channel for devs and code-interested people 16:04:25 <AgentLeMan> i understand that totally. 16:04:45 <yorick> DaleStan: Why does $FOO say/do $BAR instead of $BAZ? 16:04:49 <Rubidium> it's merely for people interested in ottd in some way 16:04:51 <DaleStan> Or if you mean why is a Patch dev in #openttd: Because people like to ask me NFO questions here. 16:05:30 <AgentLeMan> dale, and i even know what that means ;o) 16:06:21 *** Sacro [~Ben@adsl-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:06:32 <yorick> who started to argue with DaleStan now, it does not work 16:06:54 <yorick> DaleStan magically wins 16:07:39 *** JamesSVK [~jakub@adsl-dyn114.91-127-145.t-com.sk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:08:01 *** Sacro [~Ben@adsl-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 16:08:04 *** Celestar [~Jadzia_Da@129.187.69.65] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:08:46 <yorick> is it me, or would _m1[t] seem to make more sense than _m[t].m1? 16:09:30 <frosch123> it's all about alignment, cache prefetch and such stuff 16:09:43 <AgentLeMan> dale, what i dont know about much, is programming, i can use my wit to find stuff and change it, as it is after something logical behind a well made program, but its not like i could write something (and i actually dont want to do that ) but, like that rightclick=close window-thingy i try to make, its some things i want to have there. 16:16:59 <petern> yorick, see r<somethingold> 16:20:31 <petern> 2558 16:21:14 <ln> is this normal: http://static.iltalehti.fi/uutiset/kansikivaari3TM_410_uu.gif 16:21:53 <AgentLeMan> what does the text read? 16:22:13 <ln> that's irrelevant. 16:22:14 <Aali> they blured the dogs face? 16:22:24 <ln> yeah :) 16:22:38 <AgentLeMan> oO 16:22:41 <Aali> ... i dont even have a word for that 16:22:51 <Aali> ambitious? 16:22:56 <Aali> :P 16:24:56 <ln> they might not be entirely serious with that, as earlier the same site has written e.g. "The cow in the photo is not related to the case" 16:25:48 <AgentLeMan> irrelevant, huh? ;o) 16:40:03 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@192.87.217.56] has quit [Quit: COCKBUSTER SLEEP MODE] 16:41:12 <Belugas> ireelevant is something that fits very well with ln 16:42:01 <ln> oh Belugas, you sound so intelligent today. 16:42:36 <Belugas> you're jealous? 16:42:53 <yorick> how about industries on lively tiles? 16:43:37 <AgentLeMan> did ln say 16:43:43 <AgentLeMan> "sound" ? or "is" ? 16:43:51 <yorick> sound 16:43:54 <Belugas> yorick? 16:44:01 <yorick> Belugas? 16:44:05 <Belugas> lively? 16:44:10 <yorick> river tiles, offcourse 16:44:22 <yorick> rivers that change path when touched :) 16:44:42 *** mortal` is now known as mortal 16:45:19 <yorick> http://img98.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot2lr5.png 16:45:19 *** Mark [~M4rk@5ED06979.cable.ziggo.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:45:42 <Belugas> what would you do with such industries? 16:45:53 <Belugas> or rather, what kind of industries... 16:45:59 <yorick> oil rigs? 16:46:03 <Brianetta> Fish farms! 16:46:09 *** Mark [~M4rk@5ED06979.cable.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 16:46:13 *** Mark is now known as M4rk 16:46:15 *** M4rk is now known as Mark 16:46:31 <AgentLeMan> wave-power-uhm.... making .. thingies 16:46:39 <AgentLeMan> damn 16:46:47 <Brianetta> Might work in Toyland 16:47:13 *** mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: Enohp eht no S'enilorac, Regor... 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Egassem terces eht derevocsid tsuj evah uoy, sn] 16:47:16 <yorick> same way as oil rigs may be built on canals 16:47:39 <AgentLeMan> you know, powerplants that make electricity out of "water goes up, water goes down, water goes up, water goes down" 16:48:22 <yorick> yes, I know the powerplants that make electricity out of "water goes up, water goes down, water goes up, water goes down" 16:48:52 <AgentLeMan> yorick, thats mean ;oP 16:49:24 <Belugas> yorick, i think it can very well be coded using grfs 16:49:36 <yorick> what? 16:49:41 <yorick> the industries or the rivers? 16:50:14 <Belugas> the industries 16:50:59 <yorick> yes, but there are not enough precious bits to put industries on my lively waters 16:52:03 <yorick> I need 7 bits 16:52:07 <yorick> one to extend the water class 16:52:23 <Belugas> and that's where the "[11:07] <yorick> is it me, or would _m1[t] seem to make more sense than _m[t].m1?" 16:52:26 <Belugas> comes from ^_^ 16:52:32 <yorick> 3 to determine the source tile, and 3 to determine the flow direction 16:52:51 <yorick> actually 2, but I need 1 for determining if the direction has already been determined 16:53:03 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-82-3-235-60.glfd.adsl.virgin.net] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 16:54:27 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 16:56:29 <Belugas> m2 and m7 are not used by water class. isn't that enough? 16:56:41 <yorick> I said I need bits for industries 16:57:23 <Belugas> a water tile cannot be an industry tile. it's one or the other 16:57:35 <yorick> but industry tiles can be in the water 16:57:53 *** Purno [~Purno@5350931D.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 16:58:01 <yorick> industry tiles can also flood 16:58:01 <Belugas> then, it's an insdustry tile 16:58:23 <Belugas> flood means Tile becomes water 16:58:46 <Belugas> so, land tile becomes water, industry tile becomes water and so forth 16:58:53 <yorick> ... 16:58:57 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1C814.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:59:10 <yorick> oil rigs tiles contain water class, don't they? 16:59:31 <Belugas> are you sure about that? 16:59:39 <Belugas> have you seen the code for it? 17:00:19 <frosch123> industries have a waterclass since june or so 17:02:01 <frosch123> hmm, more july/august 17:02:16 <Belugas> ho... funny... i was not aware of the change :) 17:02:29 <Belugas> looks like i'm out of the loop 17:02:52 <Belugas> so out for lunch i go then 17:03:47 <frosch123> Belugas: http://www.math.tu-clausthal.de/~mtce/ottd/Oilrig.png 17:05:21 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 17:08:33 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm251.psi148.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:10:01 <Belugas> i see 17:10:05 <Belugas> interesting 17:11:58 <Belugas> reminds me of a discussion i had with petern once, on freeing bits from industry tiles 17:12:15 <Belugas> i saw the printout of the converstation last week 17:16:55 *** gynter [~gynter@78-28-64-140.cdma.dyn.kou.ee] has joined #openttd 17:17:11 <gynter> is it possible to automatically replace 2xEgnines of all trains with 1 engine? 17:17:22 <gynter> on each train* 17:17:23 <Aali> no 17:18:10 <gynter> darn 17:18:53 <AgentLeMan> gynter.... trains are overrated anyways ;o) 17:18:59 <gynter> ^^ 17:19:30 <AgentLeMan> try wining with road vehicles, then youre the kling ;o) 17:19:32 <Antdovu> just convince somebody to create a regex replace for trains :P 17:19:36 <AgentLeMan> kling? errrrm 17:20:49 <ln> klingon? 17:20:59 <Sacro> s/manley moral/sh125/ 17:21:56 <Antdovu> road vehicles are just too easy 17:22:03 <Antdovu> do it with just ships 17:22:22 <Antdovu> no extra grfs allowed 17:23:13 <AgentLeMan> ln, no, there was that tv-series with a german gestpo guy named kling" 17:23:45 <AgentLeMan> Antdovu, but... ships cant land in heliports, they are too big 17:24:15 <Antdovu> add wings, that should fix it! 17:26:03 <yorick> ah, great, now I'm just one bit short 17:28:40 <Eddi|zuHause> AgentLeMan: you mean "Hogan's Heroes", and the guy was called "Klink", and he was not GeStaPo 17:29:15 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.226] has quit [Quit: On snow, everyone can follow your traces] 17:33:51 <AgentLeMan> Eddi|zuHause, you are right. with all three thinks :o) 17:34:04 *** Pikita [~sam@89.241.205.72] has joined #openttd 17:34:07 <Eddi|zuHause> of course i'm right... 17:34:12 <Pikita> hey Rub :) 17:34:22 <AgentLeMan> oh, your "right"? ;oP 17:34:22 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm me after all... 17:34:24 <Pikita> does OTTD work with w95? 17:34:30 <Pikita> hey Eddi :P 17:34:48 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, i even drive right :p 17:35:00 <AgentLeMan> °grins° 17:35:07 * Pikita wants to knoww if OTTD works on w95 :( 17:35:25 <Eddi|zuHause> Pikita: there should be a win9x build 17:35:38 <AgentLeMan> errrm Pikita. please dont tell us you connect to the internet with win95... 17:35:46 <Pikita> nooooo 17:35:49 <Pikita> Im on Vista :p 17:35:53 <Pikita> I was just wondering :p 17:35:56 <AgentLeMan> args... that as worse 17:36:06 <Antdovu> did you hear that recently stopped supporting win 3.1? :( 17:36:10 <Pikita> i didnt buy it :P 17:36:11 <Eddi|zuHause> i did that for a long time... it's much safer than with XP 17:36:33 <Pikita> so does OTTD work with PS3? 17:37:02 <Eddi|zuHause> why don't you just try it?!? 17:37:03 <davis-> vista is cool , as long you dont pay for it 17:37:04 <davis-> :3 17:37:28 <AgentLeMan> Antdovu, win 3.1 was OUT? wooohooo °throws away dos.3.3° 17:37:46 <Pikita> Eddi, because I dont own a PS3 :P 17:37:46 <AgentLeMan> davis, some people say RFID is cool too..... 17:37:54 <Pikita> Im just curious :P 17:37:56 <Eddi|zuHause> then why do you want to know? 17:38:15 <Pikita> incase someone asks me :p 17:38:15 <Eddi|zuHause> does ottd run on your toaster? 17:38:23 <AgentLeMan> °longs back to the time were it was US who controls our pcs......° 17:38:24 <Pikita> no Eddi it doesnt :p 17:38:42 <Pikita> I need to know incase someone asks is all :p 17:38:51 <Eddi|zuHause> i don't ever want the US to control my PC 17:39:00 <Pikita> oh god 17:39:05 <AgentLeMan> eddi, it does... if you apply emotional-ectoplasm to the toaster first ;o) 17:39:10 <Pikita> if the US controlld my PC id blow it up 17:39:27 <AgentLeMan> geee, i meant US., not U.S ;oP 17:39:43 <AgentLeMan> as in USer 17:40:12 <Pikita> USer? is that some sort of US robot that they are goona control the world with O.o 17:41:18 <Pikita> or am I being paranoid 17:41:37 <AgentLeMan> Pikita, yes, you are right, that bot goes under the production name of "google" ;oP 17:41:46 <Pikita> :o 17:41:49 <Eddi|zuHause> "just because i'm paranoid doesn't mean that the people are not after me" 17:41:52 <Pikita> I dont use google 17:42:06 <Antdovu> google ads? 17:42:13 <Pikita> especially after something was pointed out to be in the google chrome TOS 17:42:22 <Antdovu> sending email to people who use gmail? 17:42:32 <Pikita> none of it 17:42:34 <AgentLeMan> Pikita, you dont use google, riiiiight, and the earth is a flat place 17:42:37 <AgentLeMan> " Results 1 - 10 of about 22,600 for pikita Results 1 - 10 of about 22,600 for pikita" 17:42:42 <Pikita> :o 17:42:53 <Pikita> is that google? 17:43:01 <Antdovu>  Results 1 - 5 of 5 for antdovu. 17:43:16 <Pikita> is that gooogle? :( 17:43:26 <Antdovu> no, it is goooooooooooooooogle 17:43:47 <Pikita> :( 17:43:48 <yorick> results 1 - 10 of about 930.000 for yorick 17:43:54 <Pikita> stupid google 17:43:58 <Pikita> is spying on me 17:44:04 <AgentLeMan> Antdovu, gmail sounds somehow.... i dont know... like "you have mail. but as you are male, youll never find the inbox, it is hidden deeply, probably a myth anyways" 17:44:14 <Antdovu> anyone know why there is so little info about me? ;) 17:44:27 <yorick> and only 9 results for full name, all generated by me 17:45:14 *** NukeBuster [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has joined #openttd 17:45:19 * Pikita vows everytime he sees google bot on forums he will kill it 17:45:53 <yorick> no killing of google bots 17:46:01 <Pikita> google is a stalker though :( 17:46:01 <yorick> google bots are nice 17:46:07 <Pikita> and its hunting me down 17:46:10 * Pikita hides 17:46:21 <yorick> it will even know you're hidden 17:46:33 <Pikita> :o 17:46:48 * Pikita sits in corner rocking back and forth 17:46:53 <Pikita> google is after me :( 17:46:54 <yorick> noes, master server is down 17:46:58 <Antdovu> http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=fPgV6-gnQaE 17:47:06 <Pikita> youtube is google 17:47:10 <Pikita> I WILL not look 17:47:24 <yorick> get the truebrain! 17:47:40 * Pikita pokes TrueBrain 17:47:59 <Pikita> hes not here :P 17:48:11 <AgentLeMan> °hands pikita a tinfoilcap° 17:48:18 <Pikita> can someone email google for me? 17:48:28 <Pikita> and ask if google is stalking me 17:48:32 <AgentLeMan> °then takes it away from Pikita and hand Pikita a tinfoulsuit° 17:48:37 <Pikita> :D 17:48:41 <Pikita> *gets in suit* 17:48:48 <Pikita> i look like a space man 17:48:50 <Pikita> woooooooo 17:49:07 <AgentLeMan> °grins, hiding the remotecontrol, from where a cord goes to the back of the suit° 17:49:15 * Pikita hugs AgentLeMan 17:49:24 * Pikita then shoots him in the head 17:49:26 <AgentLeMan> damn 17:49:27 <Pikita> I winz :D 17:49:51 * yorick hugs Pikita 17:50:01 * Pikita shoots yorick in the head 17:50:11 <Pikita> I winz again! 17:50:13 <yorick> nono, I'm supposed to shoot you in the head 17:50:18 <yorick> your doin it rong 17:50:22 *** Bergee [~bergee@c-68-42-180-23.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 17:50:24 <Pikita> nono 17:50:29 * yorick shoots Pikita in the head 17:50:33 <Pikita> Im supposed to shoot everyone I touch in the head :p 17:50:36 <yorick> hah, I win! 17:50:46 * Pikita dodges and tazers yorick 17:50:59 * yorick dodges and Pikita hits himself 17:51:21 * Pikita turns in to Pikachu 17:51:22 * yorick shoots Pikita in the head again 17:51:31 *** Pikita is now known as Pikachu 17:51:40 * Pikachu thunder bolts yorick 17:51:53 <Pikachu> :D 17:52:03 <Antdovu> I'm going to shoot the next person to speak 17:52:05 *** Pikachu is now known as Guest3897 17:52:14 <AgentLeMan> Pikita=Counterstrike-version of midas ;o) 17:52:19 *** Guest3897 is now known as Pikita 17:52:27 * Antdovu shoots AgentLeMan 17:52:30 <Pikita> haha 17:52:37 <AgentLeMan> °is dead already° 17:52:38 * yorick does counter-attack 17:52:49 <Antdovu> AgentLeMan->MarkDirty() 17:52:57 * Pikita passes Antdovu a beer for shooting dead people 17:53:03 <Antdovu> someone call the OnPaint() 17:53:10 <AgentLeMan> oh, wait Antdovu... you said "shoot" not "kill" °lays down for some more bullets 17:53:28 * Pikita hands yorick a beer and says 'gg' 17:54:12 <Antdovu> shoot as in take a compromising photo of you ;) 17:54:29 <Pikita> lol 17:54:37 <Pikita> he is dead though 17:54:43 <Pikita> :/ 17:55:13 <Antdovu> he can never truly die unless you "delete AgentLeMan();" 17:55:25 <Pikita> I did >_> 17:55:37 <Antdovu> :) 17:55:50 <Pikita> nom nom nom 17:55:58 <AgentLeMan> delete AgentLeMan(w); ? 17:56:16 <Eddi|zuHause> err... what's the () for? 17:56:21 <AgentLeMan> Pikita, your a furry? 17:56:33 <AgentLeMan> neko? 17:56:38 <Eddi|zuHause> syntax error 17:56:38 <Pikita> noo Im eating mini rolls :D 17:56:43 <Eddi|zuHause> must be "your furry" 17:57:12 <Antdovu> he is a function 17:57:24 * Pikita is a robot 17:57:29 <Pikita> from the future 17:57:40 <Pikita> sent to kill Mark 17:57:41 <Pikita> :P 17:57:49 * Pikita waves at Mark 17:58:03 <Mark> ? 17:58:11 <AgentLeMan> eddi, hmm, thats a good question 17:58:17 <Pikita> read what I said Mark :p 17:58:29 <Mark> from when on? 17:58:36 <Mark> seems pretty random 17:58:39 <AgentLeMan> pikita... tsk... this a chat... what do you expect? 17:58:48 <Antdovu> unicorns! 17:58:52 <Pikita> * Pikita is a robot 17:58:52 <Pikita> <Pikita> from the future 17:58:52 <Pikita> <Pikita> sent to kill Mark 17:58:52 <Pikita> <Pikita> :P 17:58:52 <Pikita> * Pikita waves at Mark 17:59:08 <AgentLeMan> °smiles° hows the wallpaper, Antdovu? 17:59:11 <Mark> yeah, that's random 17:59:17 <Pikita> Im the P-800 17:59:38 <AgentLeMan> paid hundred? 17:59:43 <Pikita> no 17:59:53 <Pikita> name of the robot I am 18:00:02 <Pikita> like the T-800 :P 18:00:14 <Pikita> but P for Pikita :p 18:00:24 <AgentLeMan> im saying, Pikita... its just vowelization of p800 18:00:42 <AgentLeMan> kinda like... unleeting it 18:00:44 <Pikita> :s 18:03:06 <AgentLeMan> question : the feederservice/transfersystem really doesnt work in the stable version of 0.63 yet, or am i wrong? (given that one has switched ON the new acepptance system for goods) 18:03:35 <AgentLeMan> (hopes, that was a valid question) 18:03:37 <Eddi|zuHause> what acceptance system? 18:04:03 <Eddi|zuHause> and transfers work, as long as you do it the right way 18:04:21 <Eddi|zuHause> you can have it in any colour you wish 18:04:29 <Eddi|zuHause> as long as you wish for it to be black 18:04:35 <AgentLeMan> Eddi|zuHause, where a factory loads goods into the station only then, if you drive once with a goodsvan to it, not prior to that 18:05:11 <Eddi|zuHause> ah, but that should have no effect on transfers 18:05:21 <mrfrenzy> it has always been like that 18:05:25 <Eddi|zuHause> so what exactly is your percieved non-workiness? 18:05:44 <AgentLeMan> Eddi|zuHause, it just wont work for me and i read and tried for hours. its like this : 18:06:10 <AgentLeMan> bank --- truckstation --- train --- truckstation --- bank 18:06:34 <Eddi|zuHause> as much as ln is annoying, he really has a point, you HAVE to put apostrophies where they belong 18:06:39 <mrfrenzy> why don't you upload a savegame 18:06:51 <AgentLeMan> i can make it work from the left bank, to the right truckstation, then it fails 18:06:54 <Eddi|zuHause> AgentLeMan: transfers will not work two way 18:07:00 <Eddi|zuHause> only one way 18:07:01 <AgentLeMan> mrfrenzy, i woldnt know how 18:07:12 <AgentLeMan> Eddi|zuHause, even that doesnt work for me 18:07:21 <AgentLeMan> i reduced that to oneway already 18:07:38 <mrfrenzy> you know banks require valuables to produce valuables? 18:07:41 <Eddi|zuHause> what fails then? 18:07:57 <AgentLeMan> mrfrenzy, hmm, no. 18:08:08 <mrfrenzy> if you click on it you will see 18:08:10 <Eddi|zuHause> mrfrenzy: they do have a base production 18:08:22 <mrfrenzy> Eddi|zuHause: yeah, but I assuem you can exhaust that easily 18:08:30 <AgentLeMan> Eddi|zuHause, i end up with the last truck carrying valuables back fro mthe last bank to the last truckstation 18:08:34 <Eddi|zuHause> mrfrenzy: but that has nothing to do with his problem 18:08:55 <Eddi|zuHause> AgentLeMan: then place an unload order at the last bank 18:09:33 *** Yeggs-work is now known as Yeggstry 18:11:22 <gynter> whats the fourth icon in groups ? 18:11:37 <AgentLeMan> Eddi|zuHause, i have for all vehicles at the loadstation "transfer and take cargo" and for the unloadstation "transfer and leave empty" 18:11:38 <gynter> Add | Delete | Rename, but the fourth? 18:11:40 <Eddi|zuHause> right click on it? 18:11:56 <gynter> ah thanks 18:12:03 <Eddi|zuHause> AgentLeMan: the very last station may not have "transfer", just "unload" 18:12:34 <Antdovu> there is something wrong with all you kids today 18:13:43 <AgentLeMan> hmmm 18:14:15 <Eddi|zuHause> also, for loading, transfer is not necessary 18:15:41 <AgentLeMan> so all should have "full load" and "transfer and "leave empty", the last one "full load" and "unload"? 18:15:54 <Eddi|zuHause> yes 18:15:58 *** FR^2 [frr@oscar.frquadrat.de] has joined #openttd 18:16:13 *** Swallow [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 18:16:23 <AgentLeMan> i have a testscenario though for that. 18:16:25 <AgentLeMan> okay... 18:17:31 *** Pikita is now known as NaPikita 18:24:30 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.226] has joined #openttd 18:26:31 <Antdovu> ... and that's when he kicked my dog 18:26:36 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@86.89.201.189] has joined #openttd 18:27:22 <Antdovu> it was a bloody mess with hundreds of developers dead 18:27:47 <AgentLeMan> °sighs° 18:28:22 <Antdovu> a bit out of proportion in my opinion 18:28:38 <AgentLeMan> Eddi|zuHause, it just wont work :o( 18:28:53 <Eddi|zuHause> what "it" does not work? 18:28:53 <Antdovu> that's what she said 18:29:31 <AgentLeMan> sorry. the last truck still takes valuables form the target-bank and drives around with them all day long 18:29:35 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas] by ChanServ 18:30:13 <ln> Eddi|zuHause: btw, is the new Star Trek trailer also news from the past? 18:30:14 <Rubidium> feedersystems *only* work in *one* direction 18:30:26 <Eddi|zuHause> ln: i never watch trailers 18:31:06 <Eddi|zuHause> AgentLeMan: that's what the "unload" order is supposed to prevent, loading of valuables at the last station 18:31:40 <Eddi|zuHause> AgentLeMan: in trunk, this would be called "no loading" 18:31:44 <AgentLeMan> Rubidium, i guessed so already. will that change with the new "passangerwants to go to city A no just to anywhere"-system? 18:36:59 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, cargodest will take care of that 18:37:22 <Eddi|zuHause> it also provides an option to only do that with valuables 18:37:33 <AgentLeMan> ah. 18:37:55 <Priski> hih 18:37:59 <AgentLeMan> not to sound impatient. is there a timeframe for that next stable yet? 18:38:15 <Rubidium> yes 18:38:20 <AgentLeMan> apart from "when it is done" ? ;o) 18:38:30 <AgentLeMan> or let me ask it more precise 18:39:01 <AgentLeMan> is there some kind of regular, fixed "date" when a new stable gets released? like.. every 6 months or so? 18:39:34 <Rubidium> depends on whether date("when it's done") is fixed or not 18:39:50 <Rubidium> otherwise, usually a few weeks after the last release candidate 18:42:30 <Rubidium> i.e. we don't focus on dates 18:43:46 <AgentLeMan> °nods° :o) 18:44:22 <AgentLeMan> as i kinda grw close to the nightly. i think, there feederservice already works, is that true? 18:45:28 <Rubidium> if works means works like in 0.6.3, then yes 18:45:41 <CIA-5> OpenTTD: translators * r14590 /trunk/src/lang/ (9 files): (log message trimmed) 18:45:41 <CIA-5> OpenTTD: -Update: WebTranslator2 update to 2008-11-18 18:44:24 18:45:41 <CIA-5> OpenTTD: catalan - 2 fixed by arnaullv (2) 18:45:41 <CIA-5> OpenTTD: czech - 3 fixed by miris2009 (3) 18:45:41 <CIA-5> OpenTTD: danish - 7 fixed by Hatsen (7) 18:45:43 <CIA-5> OpenTTD: finnish - 6 fixed by SuomiPoika (6) 18:45:43 <CIA-5> OpenTTD: hungarian - 41 fixed, 121 changed by oklmernok (162) 18:46:32 <AgentLeMan> ah, Rubidium, i meant both ways in nightly already :o) 18:46:57 <AgentLeMan> german is fully translated already, i guess then? 18:47:33 <Antdovu> fully = at most temporarily 18:48:08 <Eddi|zuHause> the latest issue that came up with the german translation was the default station names 18:48:15 <Eddi|zuHause> look at the discussion in the forum 18:49:23 *** questionmark [yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 18:50:42 *** yorick is now known as Guest3901 18:50:42 *** questionmark is now known as yorick 18:52:06 *** benjamingoodger [~ben@host217-44-84-254.range217-44.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 18:53:12 <gynter> where did all servers go? 18:53:18 <gynter> masterserver died? 18:54:47 <AgentLeMan> [18:47:32] <yorick> noes, master server is down 18:54:52 <AgentLeMan> seems it is stil ldown 18:55:09 <gynter> damn, i shouldn't have exit then.. 18:55:43 <AgentLeMan> °is happy° 18:55:59 <Rubidium> mysql got rebooted 18:56:03 *** Guest3901 [yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:59:50 <Swallow> I'm working on a patch (Routing restrictions) which is not yet finished, but in a functional state... 18:59:57 <Swallow> Would it make sense to post it at flyspray as a WIP, so someone (preferebly a dev) can take a quick look at it and provide some feedback? 19:01:40 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1C814.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:01:50 <yorick> or somewhere at pastebin.. 19:02:15 <AgentLeMan> °waves° thanks for helping and such :o) a good day or night to you all 19:02:21 <Aali> Swallow: dont expect to spend too much time with it, the devs are quite busy as it is :P 19:02:28 <Aali> *expect them 19:03:17 *** AgentLeMan [~AgentLeMa@BAF76a3.baf.pppool.de] has quit [] 19:05:52 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1C814.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:13:47 *** Aylomen [~a@DSL01.83.171.169.99.ip-pool.NEFkom.net] has joined #openttd 19:14:06 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1C814.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:15:15 <gynter> why those god damn ufos always land on my railway 19:15:28 <Rubidium> because you're player #0? 19:16:57 <Antdovu> has anyone tried compiling openttd with the intel compiler on windows? 19:17:36 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1C814.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:17:36 <Eddi|zuHause> do you have a _real_ question? 19:18:47 <Antdovu> I want to know whether it is any better than visual studio 19:19:05 <petern> compiler versus ide? 19:20:08 <Sacro> visual studio is an IDE 19:20:16 <Sacro> I would think the intel compiler compiles better 19:21:47 <ln> besides, doesn't the intel compiler use VS as ide (at least optionally)? 19:22:18 <Antdovu> yes 19:22:51 <Antdovu> I just have no idea what the default compiler is called :P 19:23:11 <Eddi|zuHause> the microsoft c compiler? 19:28:48 <Antdovu> so the conclusion is that nobody currently active has tried it 19:29:49 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 19:29:49 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:29:51 *** [alt]buster is now known as [com]buster 19:34:55 <Belugas> what is a compiler? 19:35:14 <gynter> omg, theres like ufo in every 15 minutes 19:35:53 <ln> are you playing near area 51? 19:37:08 <gynter> wheres that? 19:37:59 <ln> Nevada 19:44:01 *** lurimax [~lurimax@c38C545C1.dhcp.bluecom.no] has joined #openttd 19:44:30 <DaleStan> gynter: Google and Wikipedia are your friends. 19:44:51 <Eddi|zuHause> sim city 4 has a "Area 5.1" ;) 19:45:05 *** lurimax [~lurimax@c38C545C1.dhcp.bluecom.no] has quit [] 19:48:04 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.130] has quit [Quit: ecke] 19:48:34 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.226] has quit [Quit: On snow, everyone can follow your traces] 19:48:42 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.226] has joined #openttd 19:48:46 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas] by ChanServ 19:51:54 *** Fantasya [~a@78.59.192.248] has joined #openttd 20:15:52 *** Dred_furst [~Dred_furs@resnet639.bournemouth.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 20:16:28 *** gynter [~gynter@78-28-64-140.cdma.dyn.kou.ee] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:18:17 *** fjb [~frank@p5485DBD2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:18:23 <fjb> Hello 20:19:15 *** nekx [~asd@0x3e42e6e6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:33:25 * yorick ponders to tell Celestar that he should merge cargodest with trunk, instead of the opposite :P 20:38:15 <Belugas> thanks God, Celestar has more commun sens than yorick 20:40:06 *** Purno [~Purno@5350931D.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:41:19 <Sacro> alas poor yorick 20:41:54 <petern> i knew him horatio 20:42:11 <Sacro> a man of infinate jest 20:42:34 <petern> infinite, you say? 20:42:50 <yorick> on, infinate 20:42:55 <Sacro> of most excellent fancy 20:42:57 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@fuco.sks1.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 20:46:25 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-180-253.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 20:50:25 *** TinoM| [~Tino@i59F5D28E.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 20:53:31 *** Mortal is now known as Guest3923 20:53:33 *** mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 20:55:12 *** mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:55:27 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 20:56:48 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.130] has joined #openttd 20:57:46 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.130] has quit [] 20:58:11 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.130] has joined #openttd 21:00:38 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.130] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:00:38 *** Guest3923 [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:02:52 <Belugas> We're No Here. What a marvel. Like most of the others :D 21:03:50 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-76-109-75-37.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 21:04:10 <Nite_Owl> Hello all 21:05:15 <Belugas> hello Nite_Owl 21:05:47 <yorick> hello Nite_Owl 21:05:57 <yorick> Hello all 21:06:11 <Belugas> hello yorick 21:06:20 <yorick> hello Belugas 21:18:59 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590ff198.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:25:08 <ln> hello ln 21:25:37 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-82-3-235-60.glfd.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #openttd 21:26:23 *** Mortal is now known as Guest3928 21:26:25 *** mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 21:28:38 <Fantasya> good evening 21:28:58 <yorick> good evening 21:31:38 <ln> good evening 21:31:47 <benjamingoodger> good evening 21:32:24 <Nite_Owl> Welcome all to the very very polite channel 21:32:43 <ln> thank you Nite_Owl 21:33:45 *** Guest3928 [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:35:03 *** rortom [~rortom_@5ac3db29.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 21:39:10 <Antdovu> I am more polite than all of you summed 21:39:27 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.130] has joined #openttd 21:39:35 <Antdovu> (overflow may apply) 21:39:40 *** yorick [yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:39:58 <Sacro> good evening 21:40:08 * Sacro removes hat and places it on the stand 21:40:37 *** Celestar [~Jadzia_Da@mnch-5d871425.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #openttd 21:40:41 *** mode/#openttd [+o Celestar] by ChanServ 21:41:26 <ln> hello, lieutenant dax 21:41:42 <Sacro> mmm, dax was fit 21:42:56 <SmatZ> hello Celestar 21:43:10 *** roboboy [3aad2910@webchat.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 21:43:10 *** roboboy [3aad2910@webchat.mibbit.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:43:22 *** roboboy [3aad2910@webchat.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 21:43:35 <Antdovu> "do i sound like the guy who can actually write a patch ?" :D 21:44:28 *** FR^2 [frr@oscar.frquadrat.de] has quit [Quit: Connection reset by caffein depletion...] 21:46:06 <Aali> heh 21:46:13 <Aali> yeah, thats a funny post :P 21:47:36 <Antdovu> many people don't understand that programming isn't rocket surgery :P 21:48:00 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.130] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:48:55 <Antdovu> I would be delighted to perform surgery on a rocket if given a chance 21:49:55 *** Celestar [~Jadzia_Da@mnch-5d871425.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:49:57 <Aali> rocket surgery, thats just.. awesome 21:50:02 <Aali> i'll have to remember that 21:53:26 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.130] has joined #openttd 21:54:00 <Belugas> bye bye all 21:54:21 <ln> bye Belugas 21:55:42 <Fantasya> polite should be anywhere :) 21:55:57 <Nite_Owl> Later Belugas 21:57:34 *** mortal` [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 21:57:55 *** mortal is now known as Guest3933 21:57:55 *** mortal` is now known as mortal 22:01:08 <Fantasya> Go to sleep. Good night guys :) 22:01:31 *** Fantasya [~a@78.59.192.248] has quit [] 22:04:36 <planetmaker> night all 22:04:47 *** Guest3933 [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:05:37 <ln> night planetmaker and fantasya 22:06:12 *** Aitor [~aitor@118.Red-213-97-221.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #openttd 22:08:22 *** Jupix [~jupix@dsl-lprbrasgw1-fee4df00-82.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:08:47 *** Aylomen [~a@DSL01.83.171.169.99.ip-pool.NEFkom.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:17:08 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@89.246.182.244] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:19:47 *** mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: Enohp eht no S'enilorac, Regor... Tnoflahc, mraf ynnuf eht fo erac, 'Knip Dlo' ot rewsna ruoy dnes esaelp. Egassem terces eht derevocsid tsuj evah uoy, sn] 22:19:56 *** vraa [~vraa@h240.224.29.71.dynamic.ip.windstream.net] has joined #openttd 22:25:15 *** Yeggstry is now known as Yeggzzz 22:29:12 *** Antdovu [~Otinn@vpn2-091.vpn.net.ed.ac.uk] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:38:35 *** Mark [~M4rk@5ED06979.cable.ziggo.nl] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- The professional IRC Client :D] 22:43:35 <CIA-5> OpenTTD: smatz * r14591 /trunk/ (7 files in 2 dirs): 22:43:35 <CIA-5> OpenTTD: -Fix [FS#2388](r14528): cached nearest town could be invalid after importing older savegame and during town generation 22:43:35 <CIA-5> OpenTTD: -Codechange: rewrite parts of code responsible for caching index of nearest town 22:47:18 *** Aitor [~aitor@118.Red-213-97-221.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Quit: Aitor] 22:49:24 *** Nite_Owl_ [~Nite_Owl@c-76-109-75-37.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 22:52:26 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-76-109-75-37.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:52:33 *** Nite_Owl_ is now known as Nite_Owl 22:59:26 *** Swallow [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.4/2008102920]] 23:00:40 *** rortom [~rortom_@5ac3db29.bb.sky.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:08:37 *** davis- [~suckyours@p5B28FC8C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:12:47 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.130] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:13:06 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.130] has joined #openttd 23:40:34 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1C814.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:52:36 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-76-109-75-37.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Read You Soon] 23:53:12 <CIA-5> OpenTTD: rubidium * r14592 /trunk/src/ (4 files in 2 dirs): -Feature [FS#1124]: non-destructive autofill with option to keep waiting times (PhilSophus) 23:58:02 <CIA-5> OpenTTD: rubidium * r14593 /trunk/src/lang/ (35 files): -Update: remove outdated (in r14592) string.