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00:02:29 <SpComb> ok, now it works, but it just generates a bunch of water :/ 00:02:59 <SpComb> with a 16x16 map, generating 15 tiles of sea on the edges is a bit too much :) 00:04:33 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-86-27-80-69.brhm.adsl.virgin.net] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 00:07:55 <SpComb> http://qmsk.net/~terom/stuff/openttd-mini-9.png <-- I think the amplitude constants are a bit broken as well now :/ 00:09:37 <Eddi|zuHause> why do you think anything is broken? 00:09:49 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@161-18-80-78.strcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:09:59 <Eddi|zuHause> tgp occasionally creates empty 64x64 maps, too 00:10:11 <Eddi|zuHause> or at least early versions did 00:11:20 <SpComb> http://qmsk.net/~terom/stuff/openttd-mini-10.png <-- it works fine, it's just a question of adjusting the constants/parameters 00:11:42 <SpComb> I noticed some code that looked like it got hacked in to moderate the size of the coastlines on small maps :) 00:11:57 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-76-109-60-185.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Read You Soon] 00:12:00 <SpComb> `if (smallest_size < 8 && max_y > 5) max_y /= 1.5` 00:14:21 <SpComb> if Finnish you call those "hattuvakioita", which means "constants drawn out of a hat" 00:14:43 *** Zorn [zorn@e177234064.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:14:49 *** Zorn [zorn@e177234064.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 00:15:16 <Rubidium> I'd call it a constant determined by unscientific imperical research based on subjective objectives 00:16:19 <SpComb> somewhat 00:16:29 <SpComb> I should probably do some more of the same, but I'm too tired already 00:17:03 <petern> surely richk knew what he was doing... 00:20:36 <thingwath> imperical is a word? 00:20:52 <SpComb> presumeably Empirical 00:20:55 <thingwath> I know what imperial and empiciral is. 00:21:38 <Rubidium> thingwath: it's emperical with the occasional use of imperial measures 00:22:36 <thingwath> :-) 00:33:01 *** 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quit [Excess Flood] 08:56:04 *** Guest259 [~Ammler@vs241204.vserver.de] has joined #openttd 09:01:06 <Darkvater> yeah..idiots 09:01:21 <Forked> damn it I want VDSL2 again .. stupid shitty copper cables in this town 09:01:32 <Gekz> lol 09:01:34 <Gekz> VDSL2? 09:01:37 <Gekz> we only get ADSL2. 09:01:49 <Forked> co worker just got the new modem .. and where he gets perhaps 18Mbit on ADSL2+ .. he gets 42682 down and 19768 upload (kbps) 09:01:59 <Forked> 40Mbit ! 09:01:59 * Darkvater is happy with his ADSL2, 20Mb/s for 20 euros 09:02:09 <Gekz> Forked: wtf 09:02:12 <Forked> Gekz: I work at my isp =p we get to play around a bit 09:02:17 <Gekz> -.- 09:03:17 <Gekz> VDSL2 would be pointless in Australia 09:03:24 <Gekz> Starting from 1.6 km (1 mile) its performance is equal to ADSL2+. 09:03:30 <Gekz> We have about 2 people every square km 09:03:33 <Gekz> so that's redundant. 09:03:43 <Gekz> EFTel has commenced a rollout of VDSL2 compatible MSAN (Multi-Service Access Node) technology to exchanges across Australia as part of their BroadbandNext network. As of September 2008, EFTel have successfully installed MSANs in 55 exchanges in readiness for the ratification of VDSL2 in Australia.[ 09:03:48 <Gekz> heh 09:04:10 <Forked> I'm 940m away .. but the cabling is shit .. it worked fine.. but then the heavy rain came and all I got was 1Mbit each way :) 09:04:33 <Rubidium> sue mr. Rain 09:04:38 <Darkvater> hehe 09:04:49 <Forked> I try not to care :\ but having a decent upload speed was nice 09:04:56 *** Guest259 [~Ammler@vs241204.vserver.de] has quit [Excess Flood] 09:05:46 *** Splex [~splex@121.165.245.124] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:06:16 *** Ammler- [~Ammler@vs241204.vserver.de] has joined #openttd 09:06:38 *** Splex [~splex@121.165.245.124] has joined #openttd 09:13:16 <petern> i find my 8 meg to be plenty 09:15:02 *** Ammler- [~Ammler@vs241204.vserver.de] has quit [Excess Flood] 09:16:11 *** Ammler- [~Ammler@vs241204.vserver.de] has joined #openttd 09:20:30 <Darkvater> ooh, Alltaken is back? 09:23:47 <petern> no? 09:23:53 <petern> all<tab><tab> 09:24:02 <Darkvater> on the forums :) 09:24:04 <petern> oh, those forum things :p 09:24:40 <Darkvater> so, petern tell me about those railroad splits you have :) 09:25:36 *** Ammler- [~Ammler@vs241204.vserver.de] has quit [Excess Flood] 09:26:05 <petern> hmm? 09:26:57 *** Ammler- [~Ammler@vs241204.vserver.de] has joined #openttd 09:27:33 <Darkvater> railtypes 09:32:16 <petern> well, it... works ;) 09:32:17 <petern> errr 09:32:29 <Darkvater> that is not very reassuring :p 09:33:10 <petern> it's pretty much the obvious "remove the ground area from the track sprite and draw it separately" method... 09:33:18 *** Eddi|zuHause2 is now known as Eddi|zuHause 09:34:29 <Darkvater> is it done at runtime or do you merge them at openttd startup? 09:35:54 *** Ammler- [~Ammler@vs241204.vserver.de] has quit [Excess Flood] 09:36:21 <Darkvater> sweet lord, GBP is already at 0.94 to the euro 09:36:40 * Darkvater starts thinking about going to the UK 09:37:09 *** Ammler [~Ammler@vs241204.vserver.de] has joined #openttd 09:43:42 <planetmaker> morning 09:44:38 *** nekx [~asd@0x3e42e6e6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 09:44:41 <planetmaker> petern: reading tt-forums: it's not the ottd part which is missing concerning 32bpp part, only graphics, right? 09:45:43 <petern> correct 09:45:46 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@161-18-80-78.strcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has joined #openttd 09:46:03 <planetmaker> :) 09:46:07 <planetmaker> sweet 09:46:10 <petern> well there might be something missing in ottd, but nobody's really tested it fully :p 09:46:21 <Darkvater> which reminds me...why are all the buildings in the new8bpp graphics so..eh 09:46:22 <Darkvater> gloomy 09:46:27 <Darkvater> boring 09:46:30 <Darkvater> depressing 09:46:34 <Darkvater> uninspired 09:46:44 *** Ammler [~Ammler@vs241204.vserver.de] has quit [Excess Flood] 09:46:50 <petern> maybe they wanted it 'realistic'? ;) 09:46:55 <planetmaker> :D 09:47:07 <Darkvater> it almost makes me want to start taking pep-pills 09:47:24 <Darkvater> transport tycoon was always a cheery game with lush colours 09:47:37 <Darkvater> if we want realistic we should play locomotion.... brrr 09:47:49 *** Guest263 [~Ammler@vs241204.vserver.de] has joined #openttd 09:48:09 <planetmaker> I'm still convinced that I didn't miss out on anything, not having even looked at that game ;) 09:48:22 <petern> what game? 09:48:32 <Eddi|zuHause> the l-game :p 09:48:33 <planetmaker> locomotion 09:48:34 <Darkvater> planetmaker: you should look at lomo. Only then will you truly appreciate openttd :) 09:48:36 <petern> oh 09:48:41 <planetmaker> :) 09:48:49 <petern> we 09:48:51 <petern> well 09:49:03 <petern> construction... bleh 09:49:07 <Eddi|zuHause> why is writing texts so extremely difficult? 09:49:09 <petern> colour palette... bleh 09:49:11 * Darkvater faints 09:49:19 <petern> no depots... bleh 09:49:31 * Darkvater picks up train to avoid crash 09:49:57 <petern> :/ 09:50:08 <planetmaker> [10:49] <Eddi|zuHause> why is writing texts so extremely difficult? <-- the oldest arts are not necessarily the easiest ;) 09:50:57 <petern> Darkvater, come up with a solution for tunnels? :o 09:51:29 <Darkvater> what now? 09:51:44 * Darkvater cannot remember if there were tunnels on 'L' 09:52:47 <planetmaker> the seven classical muses: rethoric, grammar, dialectic, geometry, algebra, music, astronomy... none of which is easy :) 09:53:30 *** Celestar [~Jadzia_Da@p5B0DA334.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 09:53:31 *** mode/#openttd [+o Celestar] by ChanServ 09:53:42 <Darkvater> petern: you mean for railtypes? Glue them together on boot and the problem solves itself, no? 09:53:46 <Darkvater> morning Celestar 09:53:49 <planetmaker> Darkvater: if you want SAC wor for OTTD, I think you need to make custom bridgeheads & tunnel entrances... :) and not looking at games which exhibit bad examples ;) 09:54:01 <planetmaker> Hi Celestar 09:54:17 <Celestar> hey Darkvater & planetmaker 09:54:40 <Darkvater> planetmaker: he 09:54:43 <Celestar> abort: 'http://hg.openttd.org/openttd/trunk' does not appear to be an hg repository! 09:54:46 <Celestar> O_o 09:55:28 <Rubidium> s/' /.hg' / 09:55:33 <planetmaker> Celestar: that one probably: http://hg.openttd.org/openttd/trunk.hg 09:56:12 <Celestar> heh. 09:56:13 <Celestar> thanks 09:56:17 * Celestar bangs head against the desk 09:56:26 <planetmaker> That said: the links on the website don't really work. 09:56:35 *** Guest263 [~Ammler@vs241204.vserver.de] has quit [Excess Flood] 09:56:40 <Celestar> BAH 09:56:48 <Celestar> another savegame revision bump in trunk 09:57:09 <Rubidium> planetmaker: what links don't work? 09:57:29 <planetmaker> http://hg.openttd.org/openttd/trunk <-- open that page and try to look at trunk.hg (that link) 09:57:50 <planetmaker> I still have the same page, but an URL which just appends "/trunk.hg" to the previous URL. 09:58:01 *** Ammller [~Ammler@vs241204.vserver.de] has joined #openttd 09:58:02 * Rubidium blame hg web (and python) 09:58:09 <planetmaker> I'd expect to get http://hg.openttd.org/openttd/trunk.hg though 09:58:37 * planetmaker blames hg web and python... 09:58:43 <planetmaker> err... well... 10:06:56 *** Ammller [~Ammler@vs241204.vserver.de] has quit [Excess Flood] 10:07:58 <Rubidium> Celestar: really? The last savegame bump was the 20th of November 10:08:14 *** Guest267 [~Ammler@vs241204.vserver.de] has joined #openttd 10:08:24 *** mode/#openttd [+b *!*@vs241204.vserver.de] by petern 10:08:51 *** Guest267 was kicked from #openttd by petern [Please fix your client/connection/brain/etc/etc] 10:09:13 <Celestar> kik 10:09:18 <Celestar> s/kik/lol/ 10:10:26 <Celestar> petern: why two etcs? 10:11:49 <petern> twice is common in verbal communication, heh 10:12:14 <Celestar> I really need to get that talking IRC client then :P 10:13:47 <petern> that's not hard :) 10:14:13 <petern> http://zapotek.paivola.fi/~terom/logs/openttd/search/5@vs241204 <-- see 10:14:15 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 10:14:20 *** Gekz_ [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 10:17:16 <Celestar> why is my conn that slow today :S 10:17:55 <petern> cos i said so 10:18:06 <Darkvater> you ave strange powers my friend 10:18:10 <Celestar> you're in quite a mood today 10:18:31 <Celestar> you ave a french accent Darkvater :P 10:18:47 <Darkvater> my keyboard 10:19:21 <Rubidium> if you would've had a french keyboard then you'd write much more words incorrectly 10:19:21 <Celestar> yeah yeah 10:19:56 <petern> -would've 10:20:07 * Celestar sighs 10:20:08 <Celestar> I don't want to 10:20:12 <Darkvater> written 10:20:20 <Celestar> no 10:20:31 <petern> hmm, i ought to find vs2008 prof... 10:20:35 <petern> or 2005, i guess 10:20:36 <Celestar> yes 10:20:46 <Darkvater> maybe 10:23:14 <petern> ah 10:23:21 <petern> dvds do not work in cd drives 10:23:34 <Darkvater> excellent observation 10:25:01 * Celestar awards petern 100 points 10:25:04 <petern> unfortunately it was through trial and error... 10:25:18 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 10:25:24 <petern> to be honest i was shocked that i have a drive incapable of reading dvds... 10:26:30 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 10:28:10 <petern> GAH 10:28:15 <petern> FUCKING STUPID SECURITY POLICIES 10:28:34 * petern logs back into the servers he was logged out of for being logged in too long 10:40:57 <Eddi|zuHause> screen helps ;) 10:44:48 *** Dred_furst [~Dred_furs@user-5440c442.wfd78a.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #openttd 10:48:30 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 10:48:43 *** Gekz_ [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 10:50:37 * Darkvater starts getting really bored; still no network access 10:50:51 <Darkvater> obviously, I cannot program openttd in vba :/ 10:50:59 <Darkvater> and the internet is boring 10:52:43 <FauxFaux> Surely swig or something like that supports vba. 10:52:47 <FauxFaux> They're sick enough. 10:53:32 <Eddi|zuHause> write my text... maybe that'll seem your "work" less boring :p 10:54:12 <Darkvater> what's it about? 11:00:34 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@fuco.sks1.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 11:05:26 <Eddi|zuHause> abstraction of mixed language programs to perform language independent source analyses to prepare the input for a model checking algorithm 11:05:55 <Darkvater> static analysis? 11:05:59 <Eddi|zuHause> yeah 11:06:12 <Darkvater> trying to solve the halting problem eh ;) 11:06:20 <Eddi|zuHause> in particular, C/C++ and Python 11:06:49 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, it boils down to the halting problem, but that is the problem of the model checking algorithm, which i have nothing to do with 11:07:38 <Eddi|zuHause> my task is to provide an abstraction of the source code in a representation where the halting problem is solveable ("Process Algebra Networks"), while being conservative and not losing too much information 11:08:13 *** Gekz_ [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Quit: leaving] 11:08:17 <Darkvater> ah, but you cannot solve the halting problem :) 11:08:36 <Eddi|zuHause> you cannot solve the halting problem of _turing machines_ 11:08:38 <Darkvater> our group did the same kind of analysis for control flow and process parallelisation 11:08:56 <Darkvater> they used....mmh 11:08:57 <Darkvater> CoSy 11:09:22 <Darkvater> some compiler-compiler ala yacc/lex but better 11:09:26 <Eddi|zuHause> process algebra networks are kind of a union of push down automatons and petri nets 11:09:45 <Eddi|zuHause> so you can represent recursion and parallelism in the abstraction, while not being turing complete 11:09:57 <Eddi|zuHause> and thus the halting problem on those abstractions is solveable 11:10:05 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.226] has joined #openttd 11:10:06 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas] by ChanServ 11:10:21 <Darkvater> ah 11:10:25 <Darkvater> ha Belugas 11:10:52 <Belugas> mmh 11:10:54 <Belugas> slleping me 11:11:14 <Belugas> sleeping me.. i mean 11:11:16 <Belugas> hi 11:11:16 * Darkvater spals Belugas 11:11:27 <Belugas> well... not spamming... good 11:11:34 <Eddi|zuHause> why are you up so early, Belugas? 11:11:48 <Belugas> ask that to my son :( 11:11:55 * Belugas heads to shower 11:12:14 <Darkvater> early? it's 12:12 alrady 11:12:55 <Eddi|zuHause> which means it is 6:12 in canada :p 11:13:05 <Darkvater> we're not in Canada :) 11:13:22 <Eddi|zuHause> but i'm a student :p 11:13:29 <Darkvater> haha 11:13:56 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1C31B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:20:46 <Eddi|zuHause> how do i make plain " in latex? 11:21:25 <Rubidium> \doublequote? 11:22:37 <Darkvater> use LyX? 11:22:44 <Eddi|zuHause> is there a short version of that? 11:24:44 <Alberth> \newcommand{\dq}{\doublequote} 11:25:06 <Eddi|zuHause> i only ever see explanations of ways to get typographic quotes... never the plain quotes 11:25:30 <Alberth> that's because you never use " in text 11:26:06 <Gekz> Use a proper word processor? 11:26:06 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:26:15 <Gekz> one that doesnt take 4 hours v 2 minutes/ 11:26:25 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 11:27:37 <Celestar> Eddi|zuHause: \" ? 11:27:59 <Celestar> er wait 11:28:02 <Celestar> some use that for umlats 11:28:03 <Celestar> umlauts 11:28:31 <Eddi|zuHause> \" is just the long version of ", when you use package [n]german 11:28:34 <Celestar> Eddi|zuHause: why do you want plain quotes in printed text? 11:28:55 <Celestar> Eddi|zuHause: I dont write M\"unechen, neither do I use M"unchen ... 11:29:14 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, i use inputenc ;) 11:29:19 <Celestar> me too (= 11:29:21 <Celestar> UTF-8 11:29:58 <Eddi|zuHause> anyway, i have source code sections in my text, which i happily put in \begin{verbatim} sections when they are longer 11:30:12 <Eddi|zuHause> but sometimes i want to use short fragments "inlined" 11:30:32 <Alberth> that's where the trouble starts :) 11:30:45 *** vraa_ [~vraa@h75.68.20.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 11:31:24 <Eddi|zuHause> and there must be a shorter version than \"{} 11:31:42 <Eddi|zuHause> when typographic quotes are done by `" and '" 11:31:57 <Eddi|zuHause> [or something similar] 11:32:49 <Eddi|zuHause> and \"{} doesn't even look good 11:33:14 <Eddi|zuHause> it looks like a diacritic without letter underneath it, not like a quote 11:34:20 <Alberth> \"\ perhaps (with a ' ' after the last \) 11:35:18 <Eddi|zuHause> what do you think that should do?! 11:37:39 * petern returns after a pointless staff meeting... 11:40:08 <Alberth> Eddi|zuHause: \texttt{"} seems to work 11:43:20 <Eddi|zuHause> Alberth: not when i am already in a \texttt{ ... } section... 11:43:56 <Eddi|zuHause> keep in mind that ngerman heavily overrides the meaning of " 11:46:16 <Rubidium> then don't use ngerman 11:47:01 *** yorick [~Yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 11:47:05 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:47:12 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 11:48:57 <Eddi|zuHause> but it defines more stuff, like hyphening rules... 11:49:48 <Celestar> hypthenation 11:49:53 <petern> nobs 11:49:54 <Celestar> hyphenation :P 11:50:03 <petern> "we've not received any email" 11:50:06 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.160.212] has joined #openttd 11:50:20 <petern> you have 11:50:28 <petern> "we're expecting one from someone" 11:51:20 <petern> what's the sender address 11:51:23 <petern> "don't know" 11:51:35 <petern> can't trace it then! 11:52:40 <Eddi|zuHause> that's the beauty of email... there is no way of checking if a sent email arrived at its destination 11:53:00 <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause: that's also the case with normal mail 11:53:05 <Eddi|zuHause> and there is no way of disproving that anyone sent an email which did not arrive 11:57:01 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 12:00:21 <petern> no, but with an address i check to see if it was blocked for some reason :) 12:02:14 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:02:14 *** [alt]buster is now known as [com]buster 12:03:14 *** ProfFrink [~proffrink@5ad84b79.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 12:07:38 *** Celestar [~Jadzia_Da@p5B0DA334.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 12:08:39 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5ad683e7.bb.sky.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:08:39 *** ProfFrink is now known as Prof_Frink 12:09:25 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.160.212] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:09:50 *** edeca [~david@lenny.lionserver.co.uk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:19:36 <Darkvater> he, still no network 12:19:46 <Darkvater> ~5h+ and counting 12:22:36 <petern> have you rebooted? 12:22:43 <petern> have you checked the cable? 12:22:48 <petern> have you reinstalled tcp/ip networking? 12:22:51 <petern> have you reinstalled windows! 12:22:54 <Darkvater> the pc is on 12:23:01 <petern> have you had a lobotomy?] 12:23:07 <Darkvater> I cannnot remember 12:23:12 <petern> oh dear 12:25:29 <Darkvater> who are you 12:28:49 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:31:01 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@fuco.sks1.muni.cz] has quit [Quit: Quit] 12:31:49 *** yorick [~Yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:32:09 *** yorick [~Yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 12:32:38 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:32:49 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 12:43:50 *** cond_zenith [~blah@60-242-48-182.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 12:45:03 <cond_zenith> does anyone know of a road vehicle set that handles ECS cargo? 12:48:27 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.160.212] has joined #openttd 12:48:49 <cond_zenith> ahh, I suppose the generic road vehicle and tram set works 12:55:25 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 12:55:35 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:55:35 *** [alt]buster is now known as [com]buster 13:29:25 *** Celestar [~Jadzia_Da@p5B0DA334.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 13:29:26 *** mode/#openttd [+o Celestar] by ChanServ 13:29:38 <Celestar> \o 13:30:15 <Forked> ¯\(º_o)/¯ 13:30:58 <Gekz> o/` 13:36:14 *** nfc [nfc@cable-hvk-fe7ede00-156.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:36:27 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 13:39:42 *** cond_zenith [~blah@60-242-48-182.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:42:30 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:42:30 *** [alt]buster is now known as [com]buster 13:44:29 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- The alternative IRC client] 13:44:37 *** nfc [nfc@cable-hvk-fe7ede00-156.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 13:47:46 *** LordAzamath [~chatzilla@82.131.64.110.cable.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 13:49:31 *** gynter [~gynter@77-233-85-208.cdma.dyn.kou.ee] has joined #openttd 13:56:26 *** Terkhen [~ircap@227.69.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #openttd 14:17:04 *** Celestar [~Jadzia_Da@p5B0DA334.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 14:17:16 <Tefad> o/W i think i broke my arm. 14:25:32 <Sacro> http://james.nerdiphythesoul.com/bennyhillifier/?id=nX9K6rDpTwk <- chortle 14:31:16 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 14:31:16 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 14:32:36 <SpComb> oh yay, a 1x1 map (well, 2x2, but myes)... with a lighthouse on it 14:34:03 *** mikl [~mikl@0x57372ee2.mrbnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:35:54 *** mikl [~mikl@0x57372ee2.mrbnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 14:53:00 *** mikl [~mikl@0x57372ee2.mrbnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:55:07 *** mikl [~mikl@0x57372ee2.mrbnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 14:56:41 *** yorick [~Yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:02:04 <Belugas> [07:25] <@Darkvater> who are you <--- NICE SONG!! 15:06:55 *** George_ [~George@212.113.107.216] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.4/2008102920]] 15:07:28 <petern> WHOOOOOO ARE YOU 15:08:24 <petern> WHO WHO, WHO WHO 15:10:54 *** George_ [~George@212.113.107.216] has joined #openttd 15:12:17 <Belugas> I Really wanta KnoW!! 15:12:57 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 15:14:26 *** sigmund [~sigmund@91.80-202-245.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 15:16:14 *** sigmund_ [~sigmund@91.80-202-245.nextgentel.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:16:24 <petern> won't get fooled again! 15:25:03 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 15:27:32 *** nicfer [~usuario@168.226.104.44] has joined #openttd 15:27:36 *** Celestar [~Jadzia_Da@p5B0DA334.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 15:27:38 *** mode/#openttd [+o Celestar] by ChanServ 15:27:50 <Celestar> hey TrueBrain, could you make new cargodest binaries? Thanks. 15:28:06 <nicfer> one question, where should I post a suggestion for a newgrf? 15:31:21 <Celestar> /dev/sda6 22G 21G 232M 99% /home 15:31:21 <Celestar> /dev/sda1 21G 20G 708M 97% /media/windows/c 15:31:22 <Celestar> /dev/sda2 4.7G 4.4G 307M 94% /media/windows/d 15:31:24 <Celestar> meh :S 15:32:04 <Belugas> Blue Bus, Magic Bus! 15:32:13 *** planetmaker [~pm@vs241204.vserver.de] has left #openttd [] 15:32:52 * Celestar orders a new notebook HDD 15:33:14 <Celestar> I'll bbl :D 15:33:18 <Celestar> cu guys 15:33:21 <LordAzamath> nicfer: At http://wiki.ttdpatch.net/tiki-index.php?page=NewGraphicsSpecs 15:33:24 <LordAzamath> ;) 15:34:12 <Belugas> mmh.. 15:34:27 * Belugas diggs in his old cd collection 15:34:38 *** Celestar [~Jadzia_Da@p5B0DA334.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:34:45 <LordAzamath> and finds tons of damaged cd-s :P 15:37:51 <Belugas> naaaa... music is sacred! 15:42:09 *** Doorslammer [Doorslamme@PIPP-p-203-54-115-57.prem.tmns.net.au] has joined #openttd 15:42:36 <petern> digging with a jcb? 15:44:03 <nicfer> I don't want to create myself a newgrf, I want to give the idea 15:44:33 <Belugas> ho... jcb.. hehehe a financial joke :) 15:44:59 <Belugas> nicfer, you mean the job to someone else... 15:46:55 <nicfer> is hard to make temperate need goods to grow? 15:47:23 <Darkvater> english your do good no 15:48:17 *** mode/#openttd [-b *!*@vs241204.vserver.de] by petern 15:49:11 *** orudge [~orudge@owenrudge.net] has joined #openttd 15:49:11 *** mode/#openttd [+o orudge] by ChanServ 15:49:28 <SpComb> rudge owen 15:49:58 <orudge> quite 15:50:07 <orudge> apparently somebody had made the channel invite only this morning 15:50:09 <orudge> silly people 15:50:41 <petern> er, that was two days ago 15:50:44 <Darkvater> that's interesting. I did the same thing a few days ago 15:50:46 <orudge> was it? 15:50:48 <orudge> ah well 15:50:59 <orudge> goes to show how much I've paid attention here ;) 15:50:59 <Darkvater> I seem to be a big role model here :) 15:51:13 <Darkvater> hi orudge 15:51:18 <orudge> 'lo Darkvater 15:51:30 <orudge> and indeed, brb 15:51:54 *** nfc [nfc@cable-hvk-fe7ede00-156.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Quit: foo] 15:52:33 *** fjb [~frank@p5485F03C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:52:39 <fjb> Hello 15:58:05 <svippy> Hello. 15:58:58 *** nicfer [~usuario@168.226.104.44] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:59:59 <Belugas> a rogue model? 16:00:28 *** DephNet[Paul] [~paul@host86-150-1-27.range86-150.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:01:24 *** NukeBuster [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has quit [Quit: http://www.interplay.com/] 16:08:12 *** nicfer [~usuario@168.226.104.44] has joined #openttd 16:08:16 <nicfer> !logs 16:08:19 *** planetmaker [~pm@vs241204.vserver.de] has joined #openttd 16:08:27 <nicfer> @logs 16:09:46 <planetmaker> thx. petern 16:09:48 *** DephNet[Paul] [~paul@host86-150-1-27.range86-150.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 16:12:23 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fd5dc.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #openttd 16:14:06 <planetmaker> @logs 16:14:37 <frosch123> s/@/!/ 16:15:08 <planetmaker> ah :) 16:15:09 <planetmaker> !logs 16:15:15 <frosch123> :p 16:15:24 <planetmaker> eh... :S 16:15:41 <svippy> Poor planetmaker. 16:15:43 <frosch123> http://zapotek.paivola.fi/~terom/logs/openttd 16:15:46 <svippy> I hope he is better at making planets. 16:16:00 <planetmaker> I hope so, too... 16:20:45 *** NukeBuster [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has joined #openttd 16:27:25 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:29:22 *** yorick [~Yorick@82-171-205-190.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 16:30:42 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 16:31:20 <petern> baba o'riley! 16:32:02 *** George_ [~George@212.113.107.216] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.5/2008120122]] 16:32:53 *** George_ [~George@212.113.107.216] has joined #openttd 16:34:19 *** XeryusTC is now known as Xeryus|bnc 16:35:08 *** Doorslammer [Doorslamme@PIPP-p-203-54-115-57.prem.tmns.net.au] has quit [Quit: I'll get you next episode, Inspector Gadget! NEXT EPISODE!] 16:40:20 <Belugas> My ge ge ge ge neration 16:42:29 *** gynter [~gynter@77-233-85-208.cdma.dyn.kou.ee] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:50:17 *** sulai [~Miranda@p5B2B4A17.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:03:16 *** Purno [~Purno@5350931D.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 17:11:35 *** LordAzamath [~chatzilla@82.131.64.110.cable.starman.ee] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.4/2008102920]] 17:20:30 *** nfc [nfc@cable-hvk-fe7ede00-156.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 17:28:26 *** FloSoft [sifldoer@tyra.ra-doersch.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:28:53 *** FloSoft [sifldoer@tyra.ra-doersch.de] has joined #openttd 17:36:33 *** sulai [~Miranda@p5B2B4A17.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! 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And you'd better eat while you have a few minutes off. Who knows when it will happen again ... 19:32:31 <fjb> Hm, my name is not Belugas. :-) 19:35:48 <Belugas> obviously... 19:41:32 <benjamin_> hm, the sky is blue 19:45:48 <Eddi|zuHause> not here... 19:50:00 <benjamin_> well, presumably it'd be blue in the absence of cloud and the presence of the sun 19:50:11 <benjamin_> ...but my point remains valid 19:51:35 <frosch123> if the air wouldn't be that dusty, it wouldn't be blue either 19:54:15 <benjamin_> lies! 19:54:41 <benjamin_> a) the air is, in fact, blue-coloured 19:55:36 <benjamin_> b) refraction of sunlight at a 90-degree angle refracts only one wavelength, blue 19:56:02 <benjamin_> if you look carefully you can see that other angles of the sky have green/yellow/red colouring at certain times of day 19:56:19 <benjamin_> it actually forms a neat spectrograph if you look at it from a plane. 19:56:34 <frosch123> without dust no refraction 19:57:04 <benjamin_> er, actually, no.. 19:57:15 <benjamin_> refraction occurs whenever light changes medium. 19:58:13 <benjamin_> so when it changes medium from vacuum to air, for instance, it will refract 19:58:16 <frosch123> sorry, I meant diffraction 19:58:40 <benjamin_> ah 19:58:50 <benjamin_> yeah, I'll agree with that 20:00:02 <Eddi|zuHause> you have to consider the fact that air density changes contingously, there is no "clean" surface of air at the border of vacuum 20:02:23 *** sigmund_ [~sigmund@91.80-202-245.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 20:03:49 <benjamin_> well... 20:04:09 *** sigmund [~sigmund@91.80-202-245.nextgentel.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:04:17 <benjamin_> true 20:06:05 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B76DB9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:09:08 *** rubyruy [~ruy@S0106000c6e57c851.vf.shawcable.net] has joined #openttd 20:09:28 *** rubyruy [~ruy@S0106000c6e57c851.vf.shawcable.net] has quit [] 20:10:08 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77D6A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:13:16 *** Eddi|zuHause2 is now known as Eddi|zuHause 20:19:32 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host105-233-dynamic.14-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 20:19:49 <Wolf01> hello \o/ 20:23:29 <benjamin_> hi 20:23:35 <benjamin_> are you planning to say anything today? 20:23:35 <Wolf01> good 20:24:05 <Wolf01> no, today maybe not, I'm busy on moving from living room to my bedroom 20:24:15 <benjamin_> ah 20:24:24 <benjamin_> actually you've just said more than I've ever seen you say 20:24:37 <benjamin_> usually you just say "hello" and then, several hours later, "night" 20:25:23 <Wolf01> the number of words I say depends on the value of the "WordsPerMinute" variable 20:25:24 <Eddi|zuHause> why is the forum telling me it's 22:25 when it's 21:25 20:25:49 <Rubidium> cause the forum can't comprehend summer and winter time 20:26:07 <Rubidium> so you entered the offset for summer time when you registered (or somewhere later) 20:26:32 <Eddi|zuHause> it's saying "All times are UTC + 1 hour [ DST ]" 20:27:10 <Rubidium> mine doesn't say [ DST ] 20:27:32 <benjamin_> square brackets denote additions by the quoter, rather than what's already in the quote. 20:27:45 <benjamin_> here, eddi was pointing out that UTC + 1 hour is DST. 20:27:55 <Eddi|zuHause> no, i was not 20:28:01 <benjamin_> oh, no, he wasn't 20:28:13 <Eddi|zuHause> but it seems i turned off DST now 20:28:43 <Rubidium> then the times should be okay 20:28:43 <Eddi|zuHause> i don't know why that turned on all of a sudden... i never noticed it before... 20:29:25 <Rubidium> it's just stupid that the forum doesn't automatically known whether DST is in effect or not based on the timezone 20:30:09 <Eddi|zuHause> i blame orudge. 20:30:15 <benjamin_> ¬.¬ 20:30:33 <benjamin_> I blame thomas jefferson 20:31:00 <frosch123> is that the one who does increase cross production by 50% :p 20:31:57 <Eddi|zuHause> no, that was william penn 20:32:13 <Eddi|zuHause> thomas jefferson was a political person, not a clerical 20:32:19 <Yexo> ah, more (ex-) colonization players :) 20:32:44 <benjamin_> thomas jefferson invented most of the united states' government, and the post office 20:32:51 <benjamin_> oh, and electricity. 20:33:07 <frosch123> god invented electricity 20:33:19 <benjamin_> possibly 20:33:38 <benjamin_> he didn't do anything useful with it, though 20:33:46 <benjamin_> come to think of it, neither did jefferson. 20:33:50 <Eddi|zuHause> i thought benjamin franklin was the electricity guy? 20:34:02 <benjamin_> ah 20:34:03 <benjamin_> yes. 20:34:19 <benjamin_> I get confused between US founding fathers 20:34:32 <benjamin_> sorry, franklin did electricity and the post office. 20:34:40 <benjamin_> jefferson did democracy and daylight-savings time 20:34:59 <Eddi|zuHause> what most americans do wrong is think that franklin was a president, just because he's on a money bill :p 20:35:12 <benjamin_> yes, that's kind of idiotic 20:36:01 <benjamin_> then again, a substantial number of them thought that russia and china were the opposing forces in WWII 20:36:22 *** KritiK [~Maxim@93.81.213.185] has joined #openttd 20:36:22 <frosch123> "Jefferson's presence in the Congress increases Liberty Bell production of statesmen by 50%" <- almost 20:36:46 <benjamin_> :D 20:36:46 <Eddi|zuHause> yes. i wanted to say that, but i was not 100% sure 20:36:54 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.215.173] has joined #openttd 20:38:51 <benjamin_> it's somewhat ironic that the US advanced so far into democracy and liberty, and then sort of sat there for 200 years while the rest of the world caught up and then overtook 20:40:07 <Yexo> How can I force one gamesettting to a specific value if another gamesetting is false? 20:40:14 <Eddi|zuHause> well, some US founding fathers were heavily involved with the french revolution. but the following years, they went more and more into isolation, especially after the civil war 20:41:10 <Yexo> I know I can set a proc in SDT_CONDBOOL to set that value in case the second value changes, but then it's still possible to set invalid value in the config file I htink 20:41:23 <benjamin_> I mean they were pioneers in the fields of free speech, heavily organised democracy, DST, etc in the late 1700s 20:42:14 <Eddi|zuHause> Yexo: why force the setting, when you can just check them both on reading? like an inline function that returns different values when the other setting is off 20:42:18 *** |George| [~kvirc@212.113.107.216] has quit [Quit: Changing server...] 20:42:18 <benjamin_> but great britain, with its inferior legislature based around heritable monarchy, managed to free the slaves without the aid of a civil war, thirty years before the US 20:43:07 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm not sure where you draw the connection from democracy to DST :p 20:43:19 <Yexo> Eddi|zuHause: thanks a lot :) 20:43:19 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@89.246.160.212] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:44:33 <benjamin_> Eddi|zuHause: they were both things that the US pioneered in during their early days as a tiny insignificant colony in north america 20:45:26 <benjamin_> then they gradually became the world's remaining superpower, and finally started engaging in silly wars whose only purpose is to continue that superpower status --- not realising that the rest of humanity has evolved beyond the need for superpowers 20:45:36 <Eddi|zuHause> anyway, the USA had a short international intermezzo during the first world war, but went into isolation right afterwards 20:45:45 <Eddi|zuHause> they were not member of the league of nations 20:46:00 <Eddi|zuHause> which is part of the reason why they failed 20:46:35 <Eddi|zuHause> they did not repeat that mistake with the united nations, though ;) 20:47:01 <benjamin_> quite 20:48:34 <Eddi|zuHause> the USA clearly were a superpower 10 years ago. they lost a lot of that state meanwhile 20:48:50 <benjamin_> yes, but only because nobody gives a damn what they think any more 20:49:08 <Eddi|zuHause> especially with europe forming, russia slowly economically recovering, and china rising 20:49:21 <benjamin_> the bush-fellating prime ministers of the UK and australia have been ejected 20:50:03 *** Purno [~Purno@5350931D.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:53:50 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: smatz * r14693 /trunk/src/ai/default/default.cpp: -Codechange: replace one check in old AI (probably typo, but the effect was the same) (Yexo) 20:56:01 *** davis- [~suckyours@p5B28CD6E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:56:29 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B76DB9.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:59:28 *** gynter [~gynter@77-233-88-196.cdma.dyn.kou.ee] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:01:49 <orudge> [20:29:26] <Rubidium> it's just stupid that the forum doesn't automatically known whether DST is in effect or not based on the timezone <-- well, you'd have to have timezones listed for every country, then. For instance, both the UK and Iceland use GMT+0 during the winter, but Iceland does not observe DST, we do 21:02:04 <orudge> it'd get a bit unwieldy, no doubt 21:02:08 <orudge> so phpBB decided to implement it the way they have 21:04:27 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-82-20-12-90.brhm.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #openttd 21:06:02 <Rubidium> orudge: it could've just allowed someone to set a unixy timezone 21:06:08 <Rubidium> like e.g. Europe/Amsterdam 21:06:24 <Rubidium> or even CET-1CEST,M3.5.0,M10.5.0/3 for all I care 21:07:33 <Rubidium> TZ="CET-1CEST,M3.5.0,M10.5.0/3" date <- gives the "correct" date for me on any unixy system (as long as their clock is set up right) 21:08:57 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@ip-105.imafexbb.sk] has joined #openttd 21:11:35 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-76-109-60-185.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 21:11:55 <Nite_Owl> Hello all 21:12:30 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: smatz * r14694 /trunk/src/disaster_cmd.cpp: -Fix (r1): zeppeliner (disaster) should target st->airport_tile, not st->xy 21:15:38 *** nicfer [~usuario@168.226.104.44] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:21:53 *** nfc [nfc@cable-hvk-fe7ede00-156.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 21:22:23 *** George__ [~georgevb@212.113.107.216] has joined #openttd 21:22:23 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@ip-105.imafexbb.sk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:22:39 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@ip-105.imafexbb.sk] has joined #openttd 21:30:14 *** George3 [~George@212.113.107.216] has joined #openttd 21:30:40 <George3> test new IRC client 21:30:53 <benjamin_> success 21:33:49 *** Dred_furst [~Dred_furs@user-5440c442.wfd78a.dsl.pol.co.uk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:39:44 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@ip-105.imafexbb.sk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:39:56 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@ip-105.imafexbb.sk] has joined #openttd 21:42:48 <George3> Is there anybody here with KVIrc? 21:42:56 <glx> me 21:43:13 <George3> could you help me with it? 21:44:07 <George3> I can't find, where to disable displaing texts like (YYY joind the channel) and where to switch on channel logging :( 21:45:41 <TrueBrain> Cargodest compile started; estimated time: 30 minutes 21:46:19 <TrueBrain> Task 0000463 created (hg://hg.openttd.org/developers/celestar/cargodest.hg, h3b244a8f) 21:47:00 <Wolf01> you shouldn't compile on 8088 21:47:54 <glx> George3: ctrl-alt-o 21:48:07 <glx> IRC, tools, logging 21:49:40 <George3> chanel window is marked with [v] but I can't find any log 21:50:50 <glx> they are in documents and settings\<username>\application data\kvirc\log 21:55:03 <George3> looks like they have some special format inside GZip, how can I view them? 21:56:42 <George3> Also what about filtering? 21:56:51 <glx> it's just a gzipped txt 21:57:30 <glx> but you can read them with the internal log viewer (tools menu) 21:57:54 <George3> may be I have to change configuration, because it is not a txt, it hase some unreadable parts inside :S 21:58:43 <glx> it's a txt, but you need to uncopress it first 21:59:34 *** sigmund [~sigmund@91.80-202-245.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 21:59:35 <George3> I did :S Well, internal viewers allows to look them 22:01:20 *** sigmund_ [~sigmund@91.80-202-245.nextgentel.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:01:20 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@ip-105.imafexbb.sk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:02:54 <George3> But how to apply filter? There is a filter tab in the log viewer, but I could not find how to hide unnesessary lines (join, quit, ...) 22:03:35 <glx> 20 [15:17:40] 22:03:47 <glx> hmm copy paste failed 22:04:13 *** `Fuco` [~dota.keys@ip-105.imafexbb.sk] has joined #openttd 22:05:16 <glx> maybe in irc, channels, advanced (the first option) 22:06:36 <George3> it' remember channels list. how can be used as a filter? 22:06:55 *** `Fuco` [~dota.keys@ip-105.imafexbb.sk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:07:52 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@ip-105.imafexbb.sk] has joined #openttd 22:11:25 <glx> btw it's better to enable "remove colors (control codes) in logs", they are easier to read in an external editor 22:11:51 *** `Fuco` [~dota.keys@ip-105.imafexbb.sk] has joined #openttd 22:13:59 *** grumbel [~grumbel@i577AD08A.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 22:19:17 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@ip-105.imafexbb.sk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:20:06 <TrueBrain> [2008-12-19 22:19:36] Task 0000463 finished 22:20:17 <TrueBrain> http://www.openttd.org/en/download-cargodest 22:25:18 *** FR^2 [frr@oscar.frquadrat.de] has joined #openttd 22:25:33 *** davis- [~suckyours@p5B28CD6E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:26:56 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: frosch * r14695 /trunk/src/train_cmd.cpp: -Cleanup: When NTP is not active there is no need to set up TrainTrackFollowerData. 22:30:13 *** rangaparmastan [~bihar@84.78.128.255] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:40:38 *** rangaparmastan [~bihar@84.78.128.255] has joined #openttd 22:44:37 *** Terkhen [~ircap@227.69.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [] 22:59:18 *** nicfer [~nicfer@ulmo.lysator.liu.se] has joined #openttd 23:04:01 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:04:54 <nicfer> Would be a waste of time to make a city simulator from the ottd engine or something interesting can get out of there? 23:11:52 <petern> you could try 23:14:04 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: frosch * r14696 /trunk/src/newgrf.cpp: -Fix (r10495): Words now consist of 16 bits. 23:20:34 <Sacro> $unique_id = md5((md5(rand(0,100000))*rand(0,100000))); 23:22:16 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.215.173] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:24:54 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r14697 /trunk/src/strgen/strgen.cpp: -Fix: some int vs unsigned int comparisons in strgen. 23:26:07 <nicfer> I have various ideas for 'open city tycoon', as I call it 23:27:14 <Belugas> you have an awfull lot of ideas, nicfer. unfortunately, it seems you only have ideas 23:27:19 <Darkvater> hmmp, why is adobe creative suite so damn slow to (de)install 23:27:37 <Belugas> 'cause it's BIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIG 23:27:40 * Darkvater curses windows 23:27:43 <Darkvater> bullshit 23:28:06 <Darkvater> I have had games over 6GB that deinstalled within a minute 23:28:26 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 23:30:02 *** vraa [~vraa@h37.226.29.71.dynamic.ip.windstream.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 23:33:45 <thingwath> it's easier to remove few large files than thousands of smaller ones, filesystems usually don't like it 23:34:31 <Rubidium> I reckon the main thing is removing stuff from the register 23:34:56 <Rubidium> removing a few small files from a hdd is faster than removing all configuration options from the registry 23:35:00 *** stillunk1own [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 23:36:48 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:37:12 <Belugas> yup yup yup 23:39:58 *** FloSoft [sifldoer@tyra.ra-doersch.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:43:52 <Darkvater> that's why adobe is stupid 23:44:02 <Darkvater> it should just have big archive and look for files there 23:44:19 <Darkvater> oh, a bit late 23:44:23 <Darkvater> lost connection :P 23:51:39 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@161-18-80-78.strcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:53:59 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F5C5DA.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend]