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00:00:47 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-254-70.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:01:12 *** fjb_ is now known as fjb 00:01:30 *** fonsinchen1 [~alve@Va874.v.pppool.de] has joined #openttd 00:07:22 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAEcbbe.bae.pppool.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:11:39 *** racetrack [~racetrack@c114-76-9-162.eburwd4.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:12:38 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-82-13-27-15.brhm.adsl.virgin.net] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 00:12:48 <CIA-9> OpenTTD: smatz * r16119 /trunk/src/road_gui.cpp: -Fix [FS#2582](r12167): road was removed when both the Remove button was active and Ctrl was pressed (Terkhen) 00:25:15 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 01:03:57 *** racetrack [~racetrack@c114-76-9-162.eburwd4.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 01:05:33 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 01:05:33 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:05:36 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 01:13:12 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 01:14:16 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:14:16 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 01:27:00 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 01:27:00 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:27:03 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 01:34:57 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.216.150] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:38:46 *** Pikka [~PikkaBird@CPE-124-187-66-158.qld.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 01:43:52 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.17.232.82] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Nine out of ten l33t h4x0rz prefer it] 01:54:08 *** subzero22 [matt@67-61-240-50.cpe.cableone.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:07:01 *** fonsinchen1 [~alve@Va874.v.pppool.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:08:36 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 02:10:20 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 02:20:00 <Belugas> roooaaaarrrr 02:20:41 <Belugas> failed again 02:22:36 <Belugas> soo.... another attempt to move forward ruinde 02:22:40 <Belugas> go to sleep 02:24:46 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B8307D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:26:47 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B83166.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 02:26:50 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 02:35:07 *** Pikka [~PikkaBird@CPE-124-187-66-158.qld.bigpond.net.au] has quit [] 02:45:15 <[wito]> Belugas: still awake? 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pfft on you!" 08:16:31 <Rubidium> nah, don't know which direction to wave to 08:17:12 <Rubidium> so when trying to you I might accidentally (or with intent ;)) wave to e.g. TrueBrain or Darkvater or Belugas (all roughly in the same general direction from here) 08:17:15 <Forked> probably north 08:17:26 <petern> # flower king of flies 08:19:25 <Forked> http://preview.tinyurl.com/c2mtfj (maps.google.com) 08:22:32 <Rubidium> poor Forked, you're behind a wall 08:22:32 *** thingwath [~thingwath@147.251.200.254] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:22:41 <Forked> a.. wall? 08:22:54 <Rubidium> yup; got no window in your direction 08:23:01 <Forked> aw :\ 08:23:15 <Rubidium> so even if I'd wave you wouldn't be able to see it ;) 08:23:28 <Forked> probably a million .no mountains in the way anyway 08:26:22 <Rubidium> still have to go to there some time 08:26:58 * Rubidium ponders to go sometime in the Dutch spring (hoping the pollen season hasn't started there yet) 08:27:23 *** thingwath [~thingwath@morana.sks2.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 08:27:29 <Forked> the view can be quite nice.. like from the house we bought (moving in next month): http://cache.finn.no/mmo/0/164/943/70_1103490089.jpg 08:29:08 <Rubidium> that I can agree on 08:41:39 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 08:41:39 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:41:42 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 08:44:58 *** fonsinchen [~alve@Va874.v.pppool.de] has joined #openttd 08:48:21 <CIA-9> OpenTTD: rubidium * r16120 /branches/0.7/src/ (9 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed) 08:48:21 <CIA-9> OpenTTD: [0.7] -Backport from trunk: 08:48:21 <CIA-9> OpenTTD: - Fix: Road was removed when both the Remove button was active and Ctrl was pressed [FS#2582] (r16119) 08:48:21 <CIA-9> OpenTTD: - Fix: Connect tried to validate too much of the company ID with too little information on hand [FS#2849] (r16096) 08:48:23 <CIA-9> OpenTTD: - Fix: Insanely fast trains would not stop in time for stations/'jump' over 08:48:23 <CIA-9> OpenTTD: waypoints/via stations within a tick, which would cause the order not to be 08:48:25 <CIA-9> OpenTTD: processed causing the train to go in loops until (with luck) it 'hit' the tile 08:53:54 <TrueBrain> morning 08:56:39 *** HansAffe [~piespy@game.spieleplanet.eu] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 09:00:32 <CIA-9> OpenTTD: rubidium * r16121 /branches/0.7/src/ (13 files in 5 dirs): (log message trimmed) 09:00:32 <CIA-9> OpenTTD: [0.7] -Backport from trunk: 09:00:32 <CIA-9> OpenTTD: - Add: [NoAI] UseAsRandomAI as function in info.nut. When an AI returns false, it will never be chosen as random AI (r16113) 09:00:32 <CIA-9> OpenTTD: - Fix: [NoAI] Make sure AIOrder::GetDestination always returns a tile belonging to the station (16109) 09:00:33 <CIA-9> OpenTTD: - Fix: [NoAI] When giving an aircraft a goto-hangar order do not let it be a normal goto-station order (r16108) 09:00:33 <CIA-9> OpenTTD: - Add: [NoAI] AIOF_STOP_IN_DEPOT to the orderflags in AIOrder to allow stop-in-depot orders (r16107) 09:00:35 <CIA-9> OpenTTD: - Fix: [NoAI] AIOrder::SetOrderFlags always removed "Service if needed" from goto-depot orders (r16106) 09:00:54 *** Dred_furst [~Dred@resnet753.bournemouth.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 09:01:00 <petern> zomg new 'features' in a bug fix :/ 09:02:18 <Rubidium> trivial features are known to sometimes get into 'bug fix' releases 09:05:40 *** HansAffe [~piespy@game.spieleplanet.eu] has joined #openttd 09:08:22 <TrueBrain> sorry about that httpd interuption .. I needed a lot of memory, really fast :p 09:08:50 *** TinoDid [~projectjj@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 09:08:55 <Forked> quit hogging :\ 09:10:50 *** Dred_furst [~Dred@resnet753.bournemouth.ac.uk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:15:21 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:18:37 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1BC08.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:21:32 *** Vikthor [~novotv6@pc404-37.feld.cvut.cz] has joined #openttd 09:23:56 <fjb> Morning. 09:34:41 *** Mark [~Mark@5351EC68.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 10:19:53 *** TinoDid is now known as TinoDidriksen 10:22:06 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1BC08.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 10:28:30 <petern> 's quiet 10:29:21 <Rubidium> and now he isn't anymore ;) 10:29:40 <planetmaker> lalalala :) 10:29:43 <planetmaker> good day everyone 10:30:16 * Rubidium wonders why planetmaker is changing strings like a mad man now 10:30:38 <planetmaker> Rubidium :) Some things just become obvious if you look at them closely :) 10:30:42 * Rubidium remembers asking the translators to do that two months ago ;) 10:30:59 <planetmaker> Rubidium, I changed there like ~200, too. 10:31:18 <planetmaker> And I only fix things which I know are broken - like most people, I guess :) 10:32:03 <planetmaker> most changes are related to adding gender to cargo types. 10:32:04 <Rubidium> hmm, it's "snowing" 10:32:09 <planetmaker> And some are removing spaces 10:32:10 <Rubidium> ... cherry tree blossom 10:32:32 <planetmaker> And some are... strings I never saw before, just in the related section of wt3 :) 10:33:16 * petern nods at Rubidium 10:33:22 <petern> maybe i'll have some cherries 10:33:40 * planetmaker envies Rubidium ... those cherry blossoms are already gone here :S 10:34:38 *** Zahl [~Zahl@78.52.57.134] has joined #openttd 10:34:50 <Rubidium> GRRRR!!!!! 10:35:20 <planetmaker> ? 10:35:21 <Rubidium> why does the rain fall before reaching my area? 10:38:44 *** Vikthor [~novotv6@pc404-37.feld.cvut.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:45:37 *** Gekz_ [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 10:45:47 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:50:03 *** Klanticus [~quassel@143.107.231.49] has joined #openttd 10:52:58 *** NukeBuster [~wouter@80.101.115.82] has joined #openttd 10:58:06 *** Gekz_ is now known as Gekz 10:59:07 *** Klanticus_ [~quassel@monowall.cisc.usp.br] has joined #openttd 11:02:27 *** Klanticus [~quassel@143.107.231.49] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:06:10 <dihedral> hello 11:09:57 <petern> hmm 11:10:12 <petern> is there any way to redirect traffic from one server to another, keeping the original IP address intact? 11:10:15 <petern> i'm guessing not :/ 11:10:42 <TrueBrain> There are techniques to do so :) Depends on what traffic, and what hardware is behind it ;) 11:17:38 <petern> nothing special :( 11:17:48 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 11:17:51 <petern> also the servers in question are on different subnets :/ 11:17:57 <TrueBrain> BGP access? 11:18:20 <petern> i only want to redirect specific ports 11:18:21 <TrueBrain> else use proxies :) 11:18:29 <petern> i'm using rinetd currently 11:18:43 <petern> just makes it tricky to track things when reading logs 11:18:55 <TrueBrain> very true 11:18:57 *** thingwath [~thingwath@morana.sks2.muni.cz] has quit [Quit: Do Å¡koly.] 11:19:11 <TrueBrain> to solve that you need a common gateway; then you can do a bit of PRE and POST routing 11:21:07 <petern> mmm 11:21:15 <petern> i think i'll live with unintelligable logs 11:21:18 <TrueBrain> and petern, if bandwidth is not an issue, I even once managed to do PRE and POST routing on both servers 11:21:37 <petern> it'll make following the eu log retention law so much fun :D 11:21:40 <TrueBrain> which made serverB think he was communicating with the internet, while it was rerouted through serverA :p 11:21:58 <TrueBrain> (for a set of ports and traffic-type) 11:23:43 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:23:43 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 11:24:00 <Rubidium> it almost calls for a collective ddos of all EU citizens on the entities that made that law in a way that creates minimal traffic, but maximal logs ;) 11:24:33 <TrueBrain> I dislike laws like that :( 11:25:06 <Rubidium> too bad that the hosting costs of that are paid by the EU, thus by us and making us ddos them would cause them spending more money on it 11:27:13 <Rubidium> which then results in raising our taxes 11:27:30 <SpComb> a lose:lose situation 11:28:41 <Rubidium> oh crap my logic is flawed, it's the ISPs that need to log 11:29:16 <Rubidium> so either install trojans at the EU so they generate lots of logs 11:29:40 <TrueBrain> so all we need to do is generate tons and tons and tons of logs besides our normal traffic, to drown the logs :p 11:29:55 <Rubidium> or... scrap http/irc/smtp/imap and use https/ircs/ssmtp/imaps 11:30:12 <TrueBrain> https is trackable from the ISP point of view 11:30:55 <Rubidium> they can only see what server you're connecting to 11:31:16 <TrueBrain> which alone tells you more than you would want to :p 11:31:49 <petern> Device: ATA WDC WD5000AAKS-0 Version: 01.0 11:31:52 <petern> Device does not support SMART 11:31:58 * TrueBrain is happy openttd.org has TLS for all services (even forces a few of them) 11:32:01 <petern> i'm pretty sure all modern disks support SMART... 11:32:07 <petern> so is it the controller being shit? 11:32:11 <TrueBrain> petern: what ATA version? 11:32:29 <TrueBrain> and make sure you enabled SMART in BIOS .. some BIOSes allow disabling it :( 11:32:52 <petern> it's enabled in the bios 11:33:06 <petern> it's SATA, so hdparm isn't working, and sdparm isn't giving me useful info 11:33:17 <TrueBrain> smartctl should also tell the ATA version used 11:33:33 <Rubidium> just host something legal/common and illegal/uncommon on the same IP, connect over HTTPS and they can't tell whether you're going to the legal or illegal site 11:33:42 *** pavel1269 [~quassel@r2ao16.net.upc.cz] has joined #openttd 11:34:02 <petern> it doesn't 11:34:34 <TrueBrain> smartctl -a /dev/sda .. shows to me always ATA Version is: line 11:34:37 <TrueBrain> even for non-SMART devices 11:35:08 <petern> http://paste.openttd.org/182171 11:35:46 <TrueBrain> weird! 11:36:11 <petern> drive definitely supports it 11:37:18 <Rubidium> hmm, why doesn't gentoo have gcc 4.4 yet? 11:38:01 <TrueBrain> petern: no idea 11:38:39 <SpComb> they haven't finished compiling it yet 11:38:53 <Rubidium> SpComb: it takes over a year on gentoo? 11:39:18 <Rubidium> http://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-4.4/ <- it's already a year old according to them 11:40:33 <TrueBrain> Rubidium: http://overlays.gentoo.org/, overlay 'toolchain' 11:40:49 <TrueBrain> gcc 4.4 is alpha, so not in 'normal' portage 11:40:54 <TrueBrain> use layman to checkout overlays 11:41:10 <Rubidium> TrueBrain: gcc 4.4.0 is released (a year ago) 11:41:40 <planetmaker> TrueBrain, gcc 4.4.0 is released right now, isn't it? 11:42:05 <TrueBrain> Rubidium: I was talking about Gentoo 11:47:36 <petern> ah 11:47:41 <petern> dmesg shows it on boot up 11:47:42 <petern> ATA-8 11:47:57 <TrueBrain> ATA 3.3 and up supports SMART for sure 11:48:15 <TrueBrain> maybe your kernel is too old? I have no clue :) 11:48:45 <Rubidium> isn't smart from like... before the 50s? 11:49:00 <TrueBrain> it is not that old as you might hope :p 11:49:43 <Rubidium> sorry, I meant 1995 ;) 11:50:18 <petern> okay 11:50:19 <petern> it's shit 11:50:29 <petern> fucking idiots buying desktop machines for servers :( 11:50:32 <petern> it's an nforce-mcp51 11:50:39 <petern> which apparently has issues 11:50:55 <TrueBrain> there are chipsets which don't relay the SMART info? Hahaha :) That is insane ... 11:51:40 <Rubidium> TrueBrain: whould would you relay it? 11:52:01 <petern> well 11:52:02 <petern> i dunno 11:52:09 <Rubidium> it reduces the number of transistors, most people don't care/know about it and if people need it you just charge them extra for a 'better' chipset 11:52:13 <petern> # sdparm -a /dev/sda /dev/sda: ATA WDC WD5000AAKS-0 01.0 11:52:13 <petern> REQUEST SENSE failed, try again with '-v' option 11:52:25 <petern> (er, second /dev/sda is actually on a new line) 11:54:22 <dihedral> lord let it rain brain ^^ 11:54:44 <TrueBrain> Rubidium: yeah, for the same reason I have the only CPU out of the T5 line not supporting VT 11:56:17 <petern> # hddtemp /dev/sda 11:56:17 <petern> /dev/sda: WDC WD5000AAKS-00A7B2: 29°C 11:56:21 <petern> that works :s 11:56:25 <TrueBrain> LOL :) 11:56:40 <petern> bit cold 11:58:12 <Forked> /dev/sda: WDC WD5000AACS-00ZUB0: 50°C .. a bit hot :\ 11:59:36 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 11:59:36 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:59:39 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 12:00:55 <TrueBrain> you can't have it all :p 12:01:29 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.16.105.53] has joined #openttd 12:04:06 <Rubidium> # I want it all I want it all I want it all and I want it now 12:09:37 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:4d7a:4435:c609:4c2a] has joined #openttd 12:09:40 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 12:12:29 <dihedral> Rubidium, have someone assign all fs tickets to you :-P 12:13:12 <Rubidium> are you sure? 12:13:23 * TrueBrain gets to work :p 12:14:46 <dihedral> you said you wanted it all :-P 12:15:06 <Forked> I think he sang it 12:15:31 * welshdragon wants to play his savegame with the latest nightly, but will have to wait for the next Infrastructure Sharing beta 12:16:07 <welshdragon> seeing little trains crawling across a big station to terminate hurts my feelings 12:16:11 * Rubidium reckons there were savegame bumps in between, so I guess you won't be able to open it in IS anyways 12:16:27 <dihedral> welshdragon, compile it yourself ! 12:16:40 * TrueBrain made drastic DB changes in WT3, and needs to walk over all scripts AGAIN :( 12:16:52 <Forked> eek? 12:16:59 * planetmaker thinks that we don't maintain savegame compatibility for IS 12:17:23 <welshdragon> dihedral, i have no coding skill 12:17:39 <welshdragon> planetmaker oh... damn :( 12:17:47 <planetmaker> welshdragon, you only need programme installation skills :P 12:18:02 <welshdragon> planetmaker, those i have 12:18:06 <planetmaker> and maintaining backward compatibility for saves is... a lot of work for very little gain. 12:18:29 <Rubidium> welshdragon: because someone doesn't have cooking skills doesn't that person cannot cook a kettle of water if that person is capable of following instructions 12:18:40 <welshdragon> so that means i need to disable sharing skills 12:19:00 <welshdragon> .... 12:19:03 <welshdragon> tracks even 12:19:16 <planetmaker> uhm... welshdragon: it won't help to make it compatible. I'm afraid 12:19:26 <glx> TrueBrain: bottom black line in lists is weird :) 12:19:53 <welshdragon> planetmaker, please can you make it compatible? 12:19:56 <TrueBrain> glx: it is not as thick as the others, I know :) 12:20:07 <welshdragon> i've spent aaages on this map 12:20:33 <planetmaker> welshdragon, I lack the proper coding skills and the 6 hours to look into the problem in order to understand all hooks 12:20:51 <welshdragon> aah 12:20:59 <welshdragon> can you not ask somebody else? 12:21:12 <planetmaker> I would feel bad about that :) 12:21:33 *** Hirundo [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 12:22:24 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:22:46 * welshdragon debates to ask Hirundo 12:23:00 <planetmaker> besides, it would be not the point of the repository to maintain backward compatibility. Hirundo and Aali would kick my ass for addint that - very rightfully even. 12:23:02 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 12:23:27 <Rubidium> welshdragon: planetmaker is already very busy with "not ask"-ing somebody else 12:23:41 <planetmaker> :P 12:23:44 <welshdragon> Rubidium, i am aware of that 12:23:50 <welshdragon> he already said 12:24:14 <welshdragon> which is why i want to ask Aali or Hirundo about it 12:24:34 <planetmaker> they won't commit the changes to the beta2. It would break trunk compatibility. 12:24:47 <planetmaker> it's intrinsically not possible to add it to beta2 12:24:49 <Rubidium> then why do you ask planetmaker whether he can "not ask" somebody else? 12:25:14 <planetmaker> of course it would be possible to patch a beta2... but then... :) 12:25:58 <welshdragon> so i'm screwed when beta2 comes ouyt then 12:26:11 <welshdragon> fan-f**********g-tastic 12:26:28 <glx> too many stars 12:26:35 <planetmaker> :D 12:26:53 <planetmaker> welshdragon, as said: it's much work - for one or two savegames. 12:27:43 <welshdragon> planetmaker, BUT IT MAINTAINS CONTINUITY 12:28:11 <TrueBrain> welshdragon: so buy a book "C++ for dummies", and do it yourself 12:28:37 *** Swallow [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:28:56 <welshdragon> No 12:29:15 <Rubidium> and read up on MiniIN ;) 12:29:15 <TrueBrain> rude 12:29:35 <planetmaker> welshdragon, I rather have continuity wrt trunk :) 12:30:04 <glx> the only simple thing to do is allow trunk games to be loaded 12:30:09 <glx> everything else is a hell 12:30:16 <welshdragon> why force the end user to learn a new language just so they can implement it themselves, when there are people capable of doing it in 2 minutes? 12:30:22 <planetmaker> it's a few limited pieces of code which need looking at in order to add it. But glx sais it :) 12:30:28 <Forked> it's beta.. 12:30:32 <Forked> expect it to act like beta :) 12:30:36 <planetmaker> welshdragon, no single person can do it in two minutes! 12:30:42 <Rubidium> welshdragon: please list the people who can do it in two minutes 12:31:04 <welshdragon> ...it was a number i picked out of thin air 12:31:09 <planetmaker> not even Rubidium could do - though he's probably the person who knows the code most intimately 12:31:12 <TrueBrain> one off by a factor 100 or so 12:31:26 <TrueBrain> I can hold my breath for 20 minutes!!!! 12:31:33 <TrueBrain> yeah .. it was a number I picked out of thin air 12:31:42 <planetmaker> :D 12:31:46 <Rubidium> I can too, but only once 12:31:54 <TrueBrain> Rubidium: at the end of my life :p 12:32:06 <TrueBrain> "Suicide will be the last thing I do!" 12:32:08 <planetmaker> nah, we don't want that demonstration. 12:32:19 <planetmaker> Too much paperwork associated with that :P 12:33:33 <glx> a very easy way (I think) would be to add a new chunk for the patch 12:33:52 <welshdragon> hmm? 12:33:56 <Rubidium> glx: then you're still having trouble with settings and such 12:34:08 <planetmaker> glx, which e.g. on my part, would require to understand the savegame format in the first place wrt chunks and stuff. 12:34:27 <glx> Rubidium: you can put the new settings in the new chunk :) 12:34:35 <planetmaker> I recall SmatZ doing manual magic with savegames. But that was hex editor magic. 12:35:33 <glx> anyway adding full backward compatibility for patches is not really needed 12:36:19 <welshdragon> i just want to load my savegame :'( 12:36:29 <glx> then fix it by hand :) 12:36:46 <welshdragon> (sigh) 12:37:44 <welshdragon> now i have to spend another uncountable number of hours undoing the patchwork that is my game 12:37:55 <welshdragon> and no, i don't have an old save 12:37:56 <TrueBrain> or simply: don't upgrade! 12:38:18 <welshdragon> but i want middlestop 12:38:22 * welshdragon cries 12:38:36 <glx> then start a new game 12:38:57 <welshdragon> no 12:39:02 * welshdragon cries even more 12:39:08 <TrueBrain> you start to annoy me 12:39:12 <TrueBrain> rarely a good thing :) 12:39:29 <glx> simple rule to remember, a game started in a patched version must be continued in this version 12:40:03 <welshdragon> TrueBrain, good 12:40:27 <glx> the other rule is: don't load trunk game in patched version if you want to play it for long time :) 12:40:36 <welshdragon> glx, but still, how come nightlies are backward compatible and patches not? 12:40:42 <dihedral> ... 12:40:50 <dihedral> welshdragon, stupid boy 12:41:10 <dihedral> they have code to ensure they are backwards compatible !! 12:41:34 <welshdragon> then that code should be in the patches too! 12:41:34 <planetmaker> welshdragon: it's easy to add things. But difficult, if you want to take provisions for different things which are called by the same name 12:41:47 <glx> and usually when patch compatibility is broken it's because trunk savegame version is increased 12:42:04 <planetmaker> and if both, (later) trunk and patch add to the same place in the savegame file: poof. 12:42:13 <planetmaker> That's what happens right now with IS and trunk 12:42:30 <welshdragon> huh? 12:42:34 <dihedral> it's just 'backwards compatability' isn't it welshdragon 12:42:44 <dihedral> rephrase, it's "just" ... 12:43:33 <dihedral> for something you admittedly have a lack of knowledge of, the word "just" should be used with great care 12:43:53 <glx> welshdragon: before r16037, trunk was version 116, IS was version 117 12:44:06 <glx> in r16037 trunk become version 117 12:44:16 <glx> no imagine the effect :) 12:44:32 <dihedral> also words like "simply" or "easily" should be avoided! 12:44:56 <planetmaker> oh, words come so easily... *trÀller* 12:45:03 <dihedral> :-P 12:45:13 <glx> is that a german troll? 12:45:13 <welshdragon> when the nightly became version 117 i tried it and the game still worked (minus all the modifications 12:45:15 <dihedral> planetmaker, "just" add backwards comabebility 12:45:33 <planetmaker> glx, it's german for approx something like *hum* 12:51:22 <dihedral> planetmaker, look what you've done - you've killed the conversation :-P 12:51:34 <TrueBrain> dihedral: you call this a conversation?! 12:51:50 <dihedral> shhh ^^ 12:53:43 * welshdragon is still around, just doing somethingt 12:54:23 <dihedral> who? 12:55:45 <welshdragon> http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3482/3465673816_3df001fef0_o.png < my lower network map, the light blue own most of the tracks, but the pink own the eastern area. 12:56:56 <welshdragon> http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3574/3464858721_c9bc3c660f_o.png < my companies and their trains, some are only small, others are large, and i plan on adding more companies to reduce the number of trains the blue company owns 12:57:53 <dihedral> you dont even have high wycombe in there 12:58:08 <dihedral> oh yes you do 12:58:12 <planetmaker> looks nice :) 12:58:13 <welshdragon> now that has taken me 3 - 4 hours a night work, for the last 2 months, i absolutely do not want to have to do all that again! 12:58:17 <dihedral> wow that map is off 12:58:23 <TrueBrain> welshdragon: SO DO NOT UPGRADE 12:58:28 <welshdragon> dihedral, yeah, i i know 12:58:45 <welshdragon> TrueBrain, BUT I WANT LATEST TRUNK FEATURES >:( 12:58:50 <TrueBrain> then stop wining! 12:58:57 <TrueBrain> you know the facts now, so accept that, or fix it yourself 12:59:02 * dihedral extends his ignore list 12:59:04 <glx> then fix your savegame by hand :) 12:59:21 <dihedral> glx: i remember someone doing that for wwottdgd 1 ^^ 12:59:34 <glx> I did it once too 12:59:38 <planetmaker> dihedral, I also remember that someone doing for wwottdgd/2 :) 12:59:57 *** welshdragon [~welshdrag@80.247.163.137] has left #openttd [i don't want to be a part of this channel any more, you seem to all be bullies] 13:00:04 <glx> lol 13:00:07 <planetmaker> tsk 13:00:08 <TrueBrain> bah, and I wanted to kick him out ... 13:00:20 <dihedral> planetmaker, did you really? i thought wwottdgd 2 worked nicer 13:00:26 <planetmaker> he's got the meaning of the word "bully" wrong, I say 13:00:48 <TrueBrain> bah, my IRC can't show his hostmaks anymore :( 13:00:57 <planetmaker> dihedral, well, our PatchY did once, I think, as the map was mad - guess - with a previous version of the patch, not with trunk 13:01:03 <glx> [15:00:06] welshdragon [~welshdrag@80.247.163.137] vient de partir de #openttd: i don't want to be a part of this channel any more, you seem to all be bullies 13:01:10 <dihedral> ~welshdrag@80.247.163.137 13:01:18 <TrueBrain> @mode +b *!*@80.247.163.137 13:01:19 *** mode/#openttd [+b *!*@80.247.163.137] by DorpsGek 13:01:19 <TrueBrain> tnx :) 13:01:26 <dihedral> thehe 13:01:36 <planetmaker> teeh 13:02:02 *** Klanticus_ [~quassel@monowall.cisc.usp.br] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:02:17 <dihedral> tlet tus tall tuse ttees tinfront tof tnomal twords!! 13:02:33 <TrueBrain> @kick dihedral let us all ban dihedral over and over out of this channel 13:02:33 *** dihedral was kicked from #openttd by DorpsGek [let us all ban dihedral over and over out of this channel] 13:02:35 <TrueBrain> much more fun 13:02:41 *** dihedral [~dih@vs241204.vserver.de] has joined #openttd 13:02:45 <glx> you were too fast TrueBrain :) 13:02:45 <dihedral> :-{ 13:02:45 * Forked stabs dihedral 13:02:47 <dihedral> :-P 13:02:50 * dihedral hugs TrueBrain 13:02:51 <Forked> now you're forked too. 13:02:57 <TrueBrain> glx: feel free to repeat the procedure ;) 13:03:04 <TrueBrain> :) 13:03:09 <dihedral> Forked, you never specified what you'd stab me with 13:03:18 <Forked> if you didn't get it by line two you'll never get it 13:03:19 <TrueBrain> I think with a fork 13:03:21 <dihedral> i cannot tell if it was a fork or a knife or .... 13:03:30 <Forked> also I'll call you stupid :\ 13:03:35 <dihedral> :-D 13:03:39 <TrueBrain> I agree with Forked 13:03:43 <dihedral> aw.... c'mon ^^ 13:03:49 <TrueBrain> we are bullies, remember :p 13:03:55 <dihedral> aye :-D 13:03:59 <dihedral> big fat ugly ones 13:04:02 <dihedral> :-P 13:04:08 <TrueBrain> don't call me big! 13:04:16 <glx> I'm not fat 13:04:33 <TrueBrain> (wonders who will make the 3rd comment .. come on!!) 13:04:48 *** dihedral was kicked from #openttd by DorpsGek [I'm not ugly] 13:04:53 <TrueBrain> good :) 13:04:56 *** dihedral [~dih@vs241204.vserver.de] has joined #openttd 13:05:10 <Forked> but we're all ugly? 13:05:33 <glx> don't speak for everybody 13:07:35 <planetmaker> beauty is in the eye of the beholder 13:07:42 * planetmaker has his philosophical day today 13:07:48 <TrueBrain> planetmaker: very true 13:08:06 *** maristo [~maristo@host217-114-156-151.pppoe.mark-itt.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:08:20 <Rubidium> if we're all ugly then nobody is ugly because there is no 'normal' to compare against 13:09:36 <dihedral> and nobody said i meant the outward appearances :-P 13:10:27 <planetmaker> wait... you say we have ugly character? Now... that's showing really ugly character :P 13:11:06 <dihedral> and i only addressed those who TrueBrain addressed with 'we' 13:11:07 <dihedral> :-P 13:11:17 <dihedral> which for one part at least includes TrueBrain :-D 13:11:20 * dihedral hides 13:11:29 <TrueBrain> @kban dihedral 30 Try hiding here! 13:11:30 *** mode/#openttd [+b *!~dih@vs241204.vserver.de] by DorpsGek 13:11:30 *** dihedral was kicked from #openttd by DorpsGek [Try hiding here!] 13:12:02 *** mode/#openttd [-b *!~dih@vs241204.vserver.de] by DorpsGek 13:12:11 *** dihedral [~dih@vs241204.vserver.de] has joined #openttd 13:12:17 <dihedral> ^^ 13:12:46 <TrueBrain> oh SHIT! I have to go ... I am already late 13:12:48 <TrueBrain> bye all! 13:12:53 <planetmaker> cu TrueBrain 13:14:32 <Sacro> hmm 13:15:48 *** Klanticus [~quassel@143.107.231.49] has joined #openttd 13:18:41 *** Zahl_ [~Zahl@f051178222.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 13:20:19 <Belugas> [22:47] <[wito]> Belugas: still awake? <-- not then . now yes. but now, i'm busy 13:20:24 <Belugas> hello all, by the way 13:21:06 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:21:25 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 13:21:39 <planetmaker> ho Belugas :) 13:21:40 *** Exl [~myself@cp1224652-a.roemd1.lb.home.nl] has joined #openttd 13:25:30 <Belugas> where ? where ? where? 13:25:56 *** Zahl [~Zahl@78.52.57.134] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:25:56 *** Zahl_ is now known as Zahl 13:55:45 *** SHADOW-XIII [~Miranda@78.147.232.65] has joined #openttd 13:57:14 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.189.252] has joined #openttd 14:03:21 <SHADOW-XIII> does anyone have sac arctic trees ? 14:05:50 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm129.psi140.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #openttd 14:09:20 <dihedral> i never knew that existed :-P 14:09:25 <dihedral> i only know of her stolen trees 14:12:58 *** SHADOW_XIII [~Miranda@78.145.26.41] has joined #openttd 14:18:57 *** SHADOW-XIII [~Miranda@78.147.232.65] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:19:11 * petern yawns 14:19:19 <petern> dihedral, that's them 14:20:00 <dihedral> oh 14:23:05 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:23:34 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 14:32:09 <SHADOW_XIII> something bad with my ships, I've got: 2cc ships, MB ships, MB ships ECS extension 14:32:35 <SHADOW_XIII> when I remove 2cc ships then original (TTD) ships are doubled on the list 14:32:35 <glx> MB and 2cc probably conflict 14:32:42 <Gekz> my girlfriend plays ottd now 14:32:42 <Gekz> :D 14:32:47 <SHADOW_XIII> they used to work fine 14:32:51 <Forked> Gekz: how did you manage that? :\ 14:32:57 <glx> and never remove grfs in a running game 14:33:00 <Gekz> I showed her the site Forked 14:33:04 <Gekz> and she demanded it 14:33:08 <Forked> I tried.. but no luck 14:33:10 <Gekz> she also demanded Ubuntu from me 14:33:52 *** Simplicity [simplicity@port71.ds1-ns.adsl.cybercity.dk] has left #openttd [Leaving] 14:33:57 <SHADOW_XIII> I've tried to install Price-Capacity multplier for MB ships .... but it work only for original ships not MB ships ... and after than I ended up with original ships appearing 3times on the list (each ships appears: original, original, original with capacity/price mod) 14:34:24 <dihedral> Gekz, what a sad life! 14:34:28 <glx> you enabled "multiple engine" setting? 14:34:37 <Gekz> dihedral: how so? 14:34:41 <petern> heh 14:34:51 <SHADOW_XIII> glx of course 14:35:01 <glx> that's your problem :) 14:35:07 <dihedral> :-D 14:35:16 <SHADOW_XIII> is there grf that disables original vehicles ? 14:35:29 <SHADOW_XIII> glx but I need multple ones 14:35:48 <glx> every grf modifies original engines 14:35:52 <petern> anyone fancy making a grf-override for that multiplier grf? 14:35:59 *** Zahl_ [~Zahl@f051178222.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 14:36:38 <glx> and with "multiple" each grf is separated 14:37:04 <glx> unless coded to override another grf 14:38:01 *** Klanticus [~quassel@143.107.231.49] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:41:32 <SHADOW_XIII> ok I do not have to remove 2cc ships 14:41:46 <SHADOW_XIII> but price-capacity multiplier does not work :/ 14:41:59 <SHADOW_XIII> (with MB ships) 14:42:29 <glx> you just need to write a grf to make price-capacity override MB ships 14:42:34 <petern> "just" :)D 14:42:41 *** Zahl [~Zahl@f051178222.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:42:41 *** Zahl_ is now known as Zahl 14:45:32 <Hirundo> does NWidget(WWT_PANEL, ...) always order its children vertically, or can I somehow tell it to place them horizontally? 14:45:39 <planetmaker> I heard that word "just" before... 14:45:44 * planetmaker scratches the head 14:46:09 * petern makes a grf 14:50:02 *** Klanticus [~quassel@143.107.231.49] has joined #openttd 14:51:59 <petern> http://fuzzle.org/ottd/shipcompat.grf < may or may not work 14:52:36 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:53:43 <SHADOW_XIII> glx 14:53:50 <SHADOW_XIII> but there is one already 14:54:19 <planetmaker> o_O 14:54:51 <planetmaker> petern, you need to upload it :P 14:54:59 <petern> no 14:55:03 <petern> i need to provide the correct link 14:55:08 <petern> http://fuzzle.org/~petern/ottd/shipcompat.grf < may or may not work 14:55:18 <planetmaker> :) 14:55:37 <petern> i crafted the nfo and compiled it, haven't tested at all 14:55:39 *** Swallow [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 14:55:42 *** SHADOW_XIII [~Miranda@78.145.26.41] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:56:17 *** SHADOW-XIII [~Miranda@78.145.26.41] has joined #openttd 14:56:24 <SHADOW-XIII> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=619506 14:57:52 *** Hirundo [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:58:31 *** Yexo [~Yexo@32-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has joined #openttd 14:58:52 <Yexo> hello 14:59:18 <glx> SHADOW-XIII: try petern's grf 14:59:20 <planetmaker> salut Yexo 14:59:37 <SHADOW-XIII> any links ? 14:59:45 <glx> <@petern> http://fuzzle.org/~petern/ottd/shipcompat.grf < may or may not work 15:00:04 *** thingwath [~thingwath@morana.sks2.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 15:03:23 *** Klanticus [~quassel@143.107.231.49] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:07:17 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 15:11:36 <Belugas> [10:44] <@petern> "just" :)D <--- you have a mustach now? 15:11:52 <petern> hehe 15:16:03 *** fonsinchen [~alve@Va874.v.pppool.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:16:25 *** tkjacobsen [~tkjacobse@pppoe2-ves.broadcom.dk] has joined #openttd 15:17:07 <fjb> shipcompat? shiptoolv4? What is that? Sounds interesting. 15:20:12 <OsteHovel> :P 15:20:24 <Belugas> "garanted to blow your mind" 15:21:05 <Belugas> usual reaction: SOMETHING NEW!!!! ME WANTS IT!!! what it does? 15:21:06 <Belugas> hehehe 15:21:18 <fjb> Not possible. I don't have any mind. 15:22:34 <Belugas> hooo... usual user then! 15:22:35 <Belugas> youhou!!! 15:22:57 <OsteHovel> hehe :P 15:23:22 <fjb> I thought this project needs at least one usual user. 15:24:18 <Belugas> no need for that anymore. we have AIs! 15:24:40 <fjb> Ok, then I can go now. Bye bye. 15:25:15 *** fjb [~frank@p5485F1CB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 15:25:47 <planetmaker> he... 15:27:22 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 15:27:58 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:27:58 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 15:29:57 <Belugas> ho :( 15:30:28 <Belugas> i guess /me will shuts his big mouth from now on 15:32:07 <Gekz> haha 15:32:09 <Gekz> pwned 15:33:26 *** tkjacobsen [~tkjacobse@pppoe2-ves.broadcom.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:35:11 *** kingj is now known as KingJ 15:38:54 *** Wolle [DrJekyll@p57B0C4F2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:41:00 *** lewymati [~lewymati@aeiz98.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 15:41:05 <dihedral> Belugas, fjb always has been a bit instable :-P 15:41:30 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.11] has quit [Quit: ecke] 15:41:38 <dihedral> no need for feeling bad ^^ 15:46:26 <Belugas> Guilt is a state of mind deeply incrusted in my psyche by a long exposure to christian education 15:46:38 <Belugas> somethng i've not totally been cured of 15:46:55 <Belugas> Let me put on The Cure on... 15:47:41 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.11] has joined #openttd 15:48:55 <planetmaker> hehe :) 15:49:38 <Gekz> it is bad english night 15:50:23 <Belugas> it's normal, since it's still daytime! 15:51:04 <Gekz> haha 15:54:36 <SHADOW-XIII> ok, I should kiss petern 15:54:38 <SHADOW-XIII> :* 15:55:42 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590c3e37.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #openttd 15:57:24 <SHADOW-XIII> your grf works like a charm, making ship tool working with newships (but not with originals) ... could adjust for 2cc ships but not necessary ... I think it's lowering their actual cost of mb ships (despite setting it to 3 times higher than should be,but that's ship tool error i think) 16:01:49 *** maristo [~maristo@host217-114-156-151.pppoe.mark-itt.net] has joined #openttd 16:07:08 *** SHADOW_XIII [~Miranda@78.145.26.41] has joined #openttd 16:07:16 <petern> mmm 16:07:36 <petern> base costs are an... issue with 'multiple engines' 16:08:31 <glx> base costs are global 16:09:38 *** SHADOW-XIII [~Miranda@78.145.26.41] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:23:55 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F5D593.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 16:28:11 * Belugas picks up his lunch box and prepares to devore his sandwich 16:28:15 *** lewymati [~lewymati@aeiz98.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [] 16:30:00 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 16:35:23 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:35:23 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 16:41:02 <frosch123> how about just removing base costs? 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17:21:40 <taisteluorava> and cant that be fixed? 17:22:10 <glx> anyway a screenshot is not enough 17:22:10 <taisteluorava> its really annoying to people ruins public games by using that :/ 17:22:22 <glx> you can disable them 17:22:26 <taisteluorava> what else screenshots you need, game is online all time 17:22:37 <glx> it's a setting 17:23:11 <taisteluorava> but even if he selled a shares, other companies value was so low 17:23:26 <taisteluorava> check first mont on that graph 17:23:40 <taisteluorava> in screenshot which i posted, first month on value graph 17:24:44 <glx> company values depends on vehicles and some other things 17:25:43 <taisteluorava> so with disabling buying shares will disable that "bug" also? 17:29:46 *** fonsinchen [~alve@Va874.v.pppool.de] has joined #openttd 17:31:32 *** SHADOW-XIII [~Miranda@78.145.26.41] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:32:05 *** Mark [~Mark@5351EC68.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:32:40 <el_en> http://www.noob.us/entertainment/danny-macaskill-parkour-bicycle/ 17:34:12 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 17:34:39 *** Mark [~Mark@5351EC68.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 17:34:46 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:34:46 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 17:36:04 *** SHADOW-XIII [~Miranda@78.145.26.41] has joined #openttd 17:38:42 *** Mark [~Mark@5351EC68.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:40:21 *** Mark [~Mark@5351EC68.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 17:42:28 *** SHADOW_XIII [~Miranda@78.145.26.41] has joined #openttd 17:44:42 *** SHADOW-XIII [~Miranda@78.145.26.41] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:46:05 *** lewymati [~lewymati@aeiz98.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 17:55:01 *** Lachie_ [whitey@creep.bur.st] has joined #openttd 17:55:12 *** Netsplit resistance.oftc.net <-> saturn.oftc.net quits: Lachie 17:55:25 <dihedral> taisteluorava, disable shares and while you are at it, disable exclusive transport rights ;-) 17:55:37 <dihedral> you people seem like that'd get you into a fight if someone used it ^^ 17:56:04 *** Swallow [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.8/2009032609]] 17:56:24 <dihedral> hehe - making exclusive transport rights only purchasable to those who have a rating greater than x would be interesting :-P 17:56:29 <SHADOW_XIII> what happens if 2 ppl bu exclusive transport rights ? 17:56:38 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:56:49 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 17:57:11 <taisteluorava> that who bounght first, lose it 17:57:11 <frosch123> the latter wins until a third one buys them again 17:57:21 <taisteluorava> so who latest bought rights, he got it 17:57:52 *** Mark [~Mark@5351EC68.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:57:54 <dihedral> i thought only one person can buy them 17:58:13 <dihedral> so in the rare event of 2 buying at the same time, the one who bought them last wins :-P 17:58:16 <dihedral> sounds odd :-D 17:58:21 <taisteluorava> yep 17:58:21 <petern> it's lame 17:58:29 <petern> you can have a tug-of-war over rights 17:58:40 <taisteluorava> so basically who got more money, he will win that competition at end : ) 17:58:58 <frosch123> dihedral: it does not have to be at the same time. if you notice someone bought them, you can just buy them yourself 17:59:02 <dihedral> eh... is that not generally the case? 17:59:23 <dihedral> now that sounds great frosch123 17:59:35 <dihedral> i am astounded at that logic :-P 17:59:55 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-82-13-27-15.brhm.adsl.virgin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:00:42 *** Mark [~Mark@5351EC68.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 18:02:35 *** E5|padshance [pad@bl11-244-12.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 18:10:47 *** nicfer [ejabberd@galleta.ziritione.org] has joined #openttd 18:18:22 *** ecke_ [~ecke@213.195.202.11] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:18:51 *** thingwath [~thingwath@morana.sks2.muni.cz] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 18:18:54 *** nicfer [ejabberd@galleta.ziritione.org] has left #openttd [] 18:20:19 *** thingwath [~thingwath@morana.sks2.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 18:21:33 *** SHADOW_XIII [~Miranda@78.145.26.41] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:23:17 <Belugas> wasn't there a wishlist on blocking the possibility to buy rights up until end of rights period? 18:23:22 <Belugas> or something.. 18:24:54 <frosch123> you could also double the needed amount everytime another player wants to take them over, and give the old company a fraction back 18:25:21 <frosch123> or you could just not bother and disable it :p 18:26:56 <Belugas> #Or you start to SCREEEEEEAAAAAM! 18:27:13 <Belugas> dunno 18:27:29 <Belugas> i do not care about the buying rights stuff, honestly 18:27:48 <Belugas> but... ifi t can make the game more "fun" and "far" to play... 18:31:07 <Belugas> the lightning of simultrans is not the same of openttd, i guess 18:35:17 <pavel1269> but? 18:35:28 <pavel1269> what do you mean? 18:38:24 *** SHADOW-XIII [~Miranda@78.145.26.41] has joined #openttd 18:38:59 <Belugas> who? 18:39:36 <frosch123> I guess belugas is talking about the comic set, pavel is talking about the weather 18:40:06 <frosch123> pavel1269: do not take "t"s too serious :p 18:40:17 <frosch123> err "n"s :/ 18:40:19 <Belugas> frosch123 got it right :) 18:40:47 <pavel1269> what/who are "n" ? :-) 18:42:36 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm129.psi140.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:45:00 <pavel1269> lol, have you watched fast-build-ottd video? 18:54:40 <Belugas> no. have you watched fast-working-belugas? 18:55:09 <pavel1269> link? :-) 18:55:46 <frosch123> no results were found for "fast-working-belugas", did you mean "fast-and-proper-working-belugas" ? 19:00:07 <Belugas> not usable video. iamge is too blurry ;) 19:00:10 <Belugas> buwhahahahha 19:00:18 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has joined #openttd 19:00:20 <Belugas> image... 19:04:42 *** Klanticus [~quassel@143.107.231.49] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:05:36 <petern> hm 19:10:06 <SHADOW-XIII> comic style looks great with ottd 19:12:12 *** maristo [~maristo@host217-114-156-151.pppoe.mark-itt.net] has quit [Quit: AdiaÅ.] 19:15:41 *** SHADOW_XIII [~Miranda@78.145.26.41] has joined #openttd 19:16:16 *** Yeggstry [~mind@94-193-104-242.zone7.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 19:16:17 *** lewymati [~lewymati@aeiz98.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [] 19:18:31 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-82-13-27-15.brhm.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #openttd 19:18:31 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:18:38 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 19:20:32 *** SHADOW-XIII [~Miranda@78.145.26.41] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:20:38 *** KritiK [~Maxim@95-25-27-246.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 19:20:45 *** SHADOW_XIII [~Miranda@78.145.26.41] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! 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A Brain! 20:28:50 <TrueBrain> I lost my brain long ago 20:29:03 <petern> no 20:29:11 <petern> you lost your light long ago 20:29:14 *** phidah [~phidah@1305ds3-oebr.0.fullrate.dk] has quit [] 20:29:17 <TrueBrain> that is also very true 20:29:22 <TrueBrain> you lost your numbers 20:29:26 <petern> (truelight was a better nick) 20:29:34 <TrueBrain> your numbers are count! :p 20:29:41 <petern> cos we don't like change innit 20:29:41 <TrueBrain> I disagree :) I like this nick more :) 20:29:57 <TrueBrain> all my computers have this cool names 20:30:01 <TrueBrain> smallbrain, fastbrain, sharebrain, interbrain 20:31:18 <Belugas> no brain 20:31:19 <Belugas> er 20:31:22 <Belugas> no brainer 20:31:27 <TrueBrain> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrxbojnGok4 <- it really is kind of fun :) 20:31:33 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.11] has joined #openttd 20:32:13 *** SHADOW_XIII [~Miranda@78.145.26.41] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, THE BEST ! - http://miranda-im.org] 20:33:03 <Belugas> ChipnPin PINPad and simulator are finally working! 20:33:10 <TrueBrain> concratz :) 20:33:19 <Belugas> tokk "just" 3 days to figure it out :S 20:33:19 <petern> g 20:36:29 <TrueBrain> bah, GetText has really the worst format ever 20:36:43 <TrueBrain> it is very hard to update WT3 based on a diff over a gettext .po file 20:36:49 <TrueBrain> as ... it is multiline :( 20:38:36 <Belugas> dunno what you're talking about, but it does not seems a friendly hobby 20:38:38 <TrueBrain> anyone clever suggestions to check in a SVN repos what entries are updated in a gettext .po file? Without reading the whole file :( 20:41:21 <TrueBrain> http://paste.openttd.org/182184 20:42:00 <frosch123> hmm, the fast-build stuff is indeed nice 20:42:29 <Belugas> dunno, TrueBrain 20:43:51 <el_en> TrueBrain: you may want to consider reading the binary .mo files, which have the messages in one piece. except not fuzzy ones. 20:44:41 <TrueBrain> el_en: a bit of a problem there is, that non-translated aren't there .. 20:45:04 <el_en> that's very true. 20:47:03 <TrueBrain> el_en: what was the #, fuzzy keyword? (don't feel like looking it up :p LAZY!) 20:49:32 <el_en> it means that the message was either "guessed" by the msgmerge process, or the translator manually set it to fuzzy to indicate it needs more work. fuzzies are indeed not included in .mo. 20:49:57 <TrueBrain> so I reall yneed to read the .po files .. 20:50:44 <el_en> TrueBrain: btw, the WT would really need some kind of fuzzy status for the messages, too. 20:51:04 <TrueBrain> el_en: you mean in general, that you can mark a string as: need additional attention? 20:51:18 <el_en> exactly. 20:51:25 <TrueBrain> good idea 20:51:54 <TrueBrain> isn't there a way to force gettext to put everything on one line? 20:52:04 <TrueBrain> so you get 3 lines (a #:, a msgid and a msgstr) 20:52:47 <el_en> perhaps even two levels of those; "need additional attention, don't use in program" and "need additional attention, do use in program". 20:53:16 <TrueBrain> they will all be included in SVN, but you will be able to mark entries as needs attention :) 20:53:28 <TrueBrain> (the reason they need to go in SVN, is because that survives .. WT3 might not :)) 20:53:41 <el_en> right 20:55:11 <TrueBrain> --no-wrap .. hmm .. 20:59:11 *** pavel1269 [~quassel@r2ao16.net.upc.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:59:29 <TrueBrain> grr .. I added --no-wrap, and it doesn't seem to work :( 21:02:24 <Belugas> bye all 21:02:27 <Belugas> enjoy the stars 21:02:28 <TrueBrain> bye Belugas :) 21:02:36 <Belugas> ciao bello 21:02:51 <Xaroth> o/ 21:05:35 <TrueBrain> finally found why it failed ... --no-wrap needs to be done at msgmerge level 21:05:37 <TrueBrain> then it works fine 21:07:26 <TrueBrain> then 'svn diff' should always give me a big enough scope to process the data .. I hope :) 21:07:46 *** Azrael- [~azraeluk@cpc4-papw2-0-0-cust778.cmbg.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:08:28 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590c3e37.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:11:32 *** Cybert1nus [~Cybertinu@a82-95-167-159.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 21:11:59 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1BC08.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:14:58 *** Exl [~myself@cp1224652-a.roemd1.lb.home.nl] has quit [Quit: Bitches.] 21:16:22 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F5D593.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 21:17:19 <TrueBrain> * Checking for at least 512MBytes RAM ... [ ok ] 21:17:21 <TrueBrain> * Checking for at least 5120MBytes disk space at ${T} ... [ !! ] 21:17:22 <TrueBrain> * Don't have at least 5120MBytes disk space at ${T} 21:17:24 <TrueBrain> to compile OpenOffice :p 21:18:47 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@a82-95-167-159.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:19:26 *** Cybert1nus is now known as Cybertinus 21:20:31 <fjb> Use virtual storage. :-9 21:32:27 *** divo [~asd@0x3e42e6e6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 21:39:13 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@161-18-80-78.strcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has joined #openttd 21:44:47 *** TheMask96 [martijn@greed.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:46:03 *** NightKhaos [~nightkhao@78-86-111-126.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 21:50:10 *** TheMask96 [martijn@greed.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 21:57:41 *** NightKhaos [~nightkhao@78-86-111-126.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 22:04:36 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@a82-95-167-159.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:20:12 *** KingJ is now known as kingj 22:23:50 *** kingj is now known as KingJ 22:32:05 *** ccfreak2k [ccfreak2k@li26-205.members.linode.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:32:18 *** ccfreak2k [ccfreak2k@li26-205.members.linode.com] has joined #openttd 22:37:54 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-82-13-27-15.brhm.adsl.virgin.net] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 22:38:35 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@161-18-80-78.strcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:43:22 *** KingJ is now known as kingj 22:51:22 *** divo [~asd@0x3e42e6e6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:51:40 *** dfox [~dfox@r11jn246.net.upc.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:57:37 *** Yeggstry is now known as Yeggzzz 22:58:59 *** fonsinchen [~alve@Va874.v.pppool.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:59:12 *** fjb [~frank@p5485F1CB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 22:59:53 *** ccfreak2k [ccfreak2k@li26-205.members.linode.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:01:24 *** ccfreak2k [ccfreak2k@li26-205.members.linode.com] has joined #openttd 23:13:12 *** Splex [~splex@c-24-245-55-70.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:22:11 *** Splex [~splex@c-24-245-55-70.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 23:27:51 *** fjb [~frank@p5485F1CB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 23:39:57 *** Klanticus [~quassel@189.103.23.241] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:42:29 *** dfox [~dfox@r11jn246.net.upc.cz] has joined #openttd 23:43:31 *** Zahl [~Zahl@f051178222.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: *schiel*] 23:46:58 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 23:50:19 *** KritiK [~Maxim@95-25-27-246.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:54:14 *** fjb_ [~frank@p5485F282.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 23:58:02 *** fjb [~frank@p5485F1CB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]