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00:02:12 *** AC6000 [~AC6000@51-103.186-72.tampabay.res.rr.com] has left #openttd [] 00:16:00 *** tdev [~tdev@p508EBED1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:16:42 *** Exl [~myself@cp1224652-a.roemd1.lb.home.nl] has quit [] 00:33:02 *** nicfer [~Usuario@168.226.104.184] has joined #openttd 00:36:00 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF9C97.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:50:20 *** Zahl [~Zahl@f051152006.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: *schiel*] 01:10:02 <z-MaTRiX> reloaded 01:16:01 *** nicfer [~Usuario@168.226.104.184] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:17:58 *** Choco-Banana-Man [~Stephan.D@p5B2DEC83.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 01:19:09 *** nicfer [~Usuario@168.226.104.184] has joined #openttd 01:20:55 <Dreamxtreme> revolutions 01:24:05 *** Muddy [muddy@playing.OpenTTD.no] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:24:48 *** Coco-Banana-Man [~Stephan.D@p5B2DE882.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:24:48 *** Choco-Banana-Man is now known as Coco-Banana-Man 01:25:15 *** Muddy [muddy@playing.OpenTTD.no] has joined #openttd 01:25:50 *** OwenS [~oshepherd@cpc1-stkn13-0-0-cust18.midd.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:26:35 *** KenjiE20|LT [~Kenji@host86-150-87-14.range86-150.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 01:26:43 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.20.158.35] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.0-rc3] 01:33:29 *** fjb_ [~frank@p5485B95F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 01:40:10 *** fjb [~frank@p5485B994.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:41:27 *** Coco-Banana-Man [~Stephan.D@p5B2DEC83.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Joyful it seems - but then suddenly - by one false move it's blown away] 01:51:16 *** Dreamxtreme [~chatzilla@93-97-81-59.zone5.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:51:56 *** Dreamxtreme [~chatzilla@93-97-81-59.zone5.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 02:27:48 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:27:56 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 02:27:57 *** Lovheim [~Lovheim@153.84-49-246.nextgentel.com] has quit [Quit: Bye for now!] 02:37:51 *** KenjiE20|LT [~Kenji@host86-150-87-14.range86-150.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:38:17 <Belugas> resolutions 02:38:25 <Belugas> convolutions 02:38:30 <Belugas> absolutions 02:38:40 <Belugas> crucifictions 02:38:53 <Belugas> factsOrFictions 02:39:04 <Belugas> comeHereMyMinons 02:39:18 <glx> lol 02:48:02 <Belugas> hehe;) 02:48:16 <Belugas> see what certifications can do to a sane mind ;) 02:52:44 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 02:52:44 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:54:55 <glx> night 02:55:00 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:444c:38d9:61b1:beea] has quit [Quit: bye] 03:03:15 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@188.123.106.105] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:08:39 *** TinoDidriksen [~tino@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:12:45 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 03:12:45 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:13:15 *** TinoDidriksen [~tino@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 03:20:51 * Akoz slaps Belugas around a bit with a large trout 03:39:39 *** TinoDidriksen [~tino@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:43:31 *** TinoDidriksen [~tino@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 03:49:45 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has quit [Quit: Sleep.] 04:21:26 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.130] has quit [Quit: ecke] 05:29:04 *** Zuu [~Zuu@c-27f8e253.025-58-6e6b702.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 05:55:48 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 05:55:48 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:55:50 *** nfc [nfc@cable-hvk-fe7ede00-156.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:59:11 *** nfc [nfc@cable-hvk-fe7ede00-156.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 06:00:43 * Zuu waves for changed aircraft holding patterns 06:01:09 <Zuu> Have to ask Yexo later if r17337 changes any patterns or not. 06:04:04 *** Zuu [~Zuu@c-27f8e253.025-58-6e6b702.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:19:17 <Tefad> for anyone who gives a crap, the Buoy station window thing doesn't have a resize handle. 06:19:40 <Tefad> and has blue title text. . . 06:22:50 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:24:41 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 06:30:45 *** Azrael- [~azraeluk@cpc4-papw2-0-0-cust778.cmbg.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 06:34:52 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r17365 /trunk/src/ (window.cpp window_gui.h): -Codechange: introduce wrapper functions to update the position, capacity and count of scroll bars. This to (eventually) prevent the scrollbar overflowing outside of the window 06:46:41 *** Kaas [~Stefan@88.159.121.35] has joined #openttd 07:00:35 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:01:39 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r17366 /trunk/src/ (ai/ai_gui.cpp window_gui.h): -Codechange: make the AI GUIs use the scrollbar wrappers 07:03:33 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has joined #openttd 07:05:50 *** Farden [jk3farden@lns-bzn-48f-81-56-247-196.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 07:07:35 *** Farden123 [jk3farden@lns-bzn-48f-81-56-247-196.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 07:07:48 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has joined #openttd 07:08:11 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has quit [] 07:10:03 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has joined #openttd 07:12:13 *** Kaas [~Stefan@88.159.121.35] has quit [Quit: Ik ga weg] 07:13:55 *** Farden [jk3farden@lns-bzn-48f-81-56-247-196.adsl.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:15:45 *** tokai [~tokai@p5B2B1332.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:16:51 <Ammler> guete Morg? 07:17:23 <Xaroth> morgen Ammler 07:17:28 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r17367 /trunk/src/ (4 files): -Codechange: make the autoreplace, bridge and build vehicle GUIs use the scrollbar wrappers 07:18:44 *** tokai [~tokai@p5B2B1370.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 07:18:47 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 07:19:37 <Farden123> hello 07:19:48 *** Farden123 is now known as Farden 07:22:17 <Ammler> Is it possible to replace 2 parts of a sprite with Action6? 07:22:20 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r17368 /trunk/src/depot_gui.cpp: -Codechange: remove pointless passing of 'this' as parameter 07:26:22 <Rubidium> most unlikely 07:26:53 <Rubidium> are you talking about real of pseudo sprites? 07:32:51 <TrueBrain> pompiedmo 07:33:50 <TrueBrain> I cna't write tody 07:33:53 <TrueBrain> so much is obivous 07:34:00 <TrueBrain> lol :) And consistant :) 07:36:08 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAE908c.bae.pppool.de] has joined #openttd 07:36:51 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r17369 /trunk/src/ (depot_gui.cpp group_gui.cpp industry_gui.cpp): -Codechange: make the depot, group and industry GUIs use the scrollbar wrappers 07:42:32 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAE908c.bae.pppool.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:43:18 *** Azrael- [~azraeluk@cpc4-papw2-0-0-cust778.cmbg.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:00:55 <planetmaker> morning 08:03:13 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B9D1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 08:08:43 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r17370 /trunk/src/ (4 files in 2 dirs): -Codechange: make the saveload and network GUIs use the scrollbar wrappers 08:19:05 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r17371 /trunk/src/ (newgrf_gui.cpp news_gui.cpp order_gui.cpp): -Codechange: make the newgrf, news and order GUIs use the scrollbar wrappers 08:29:01 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r17372 /trunk/src/ (rail_gui.cpp settings_gui.cpp signs_gui.cpp): -Codechange: make the settings, rail and sign GUIs use the scrollbar wrappers 08:36:09 *** nfc [nfc@cable-hvk-fe7ede00-156.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:36:33 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 08:37:29 *** Splex [~splex@121.165.245.76] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:40:43 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r17373 /trunk/src/ (station_gui.cpp subsidy_gui.cpp timetable_gui.cpp): -Codechange: make the timetable, station and subsidy GUIs use scrollbar wrappers 08:48:42 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r17374 /trunk/src/ (town_gui.cpp vehicle_gui.cpp window.cpp window_gui.h): -Codechange: make the town and vehicle GUIs use the scrollbar wrappers 08:53:38 *** Splex [~splex@121.165.245.76] has joined #openttd 08:56:17 *** fjb_ is now known as fjb 08:58:32 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r17375 /trunk/src/ (5 files in 2 dirs): -Codechange: remove last direct usage of scrollbar variables 09:00:29 *** tdev [~tdev@p508EBED1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 09:08:50 *** tdev [~tdev@p508EBED1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:09:44 *** tdev [~tdev@p508EBED1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 09:11:25 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:12:03 *** stuffcorpse [~stuffcorp@121.98.136.241] has quit [Quit: leaving] 09:13:18 *** stuffcorpse [~stuffcorp@121.98.136.241] has joined #openttd 09:15:41 *** stuffcorpse [~stuffcorp@121.98.136.241] has quit [] 09:17:04 *** Doorslammer [Doorslamme@PIPP-p-203-54-115-248.prem.tmns.net.au] has joined #openttd 09:22:19 *** Grelouk [~Grelouk@252.69.200-77.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #openttd 09:26:55 *** tdev_ [~tdev@p508EC84C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 09:32:00 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@88.130.161.12] has joined #openttd 09:32:05 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@88.130.161.12] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:34:05 *** tdev [~tdev@p508EBED1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:39:15 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@88.130.161.12] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:44:06 *** cipi97 [~cipik97@92.84.89.37] has joined #openttd 09:49:08 *** Chris_Booth [~Chris_Boo@client-82-27-236-169.brnt.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #openttd 09:49:44 <cipi97> :) 09:49:53 <cipi97> Hi everybody 09:51:06 *** nekomasterx [~nekomaste@bas6-toronto12-1088883271.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #openttd 09:51:09 <nekomasterx> hello 09:53:36 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@88.130.161.12] has joined #openttd 09:54:33 <nekomasterx> hello 09:55:14 <cipi97> Hi 09:55:29 <nekomasterx> Hello... not much seams to be going on... 09:56:28 <Eddi|zuHause> what? nothing? there was a whole scrollbar frenzy this morning! 09:57:04 <nekomasterx> Hmm? 09:57:09 <nekomasterx> i wasnt here for it 09:57:29 <Noldo> http://hg.openttd.org/openttd/trunk.hg/ 09:57:41 <Eddi|zuHause> that is entirely your fault 09:57:57 <nekomasterx> whos fulat? 09:58:30 <Rubidium> your flat? 09:58:37 <nekomasterx> Lol 09:58:44 <nekomasterx> I see what you mean 09:59:10 <nekomasterx> hmm 09:59:22 <nekomasterx> is whats in that link a bad thing or a feature 10:00:04 <Eddi|zuHause> why would that have anything to do with each other? 10:00:18 <Noldo> it's just the commit log, you can see the stuff you missed there 10:00:30 <nekomasterx> sure... 10:01:01 <nekomasterx> so bored... 10:01:04 <nekomasterx> not much to do 10:01:20 <Eddi|zuHause> we can't help with that 10:01:26 <nekomasterx> well duh 10:01:49 <nekomasterx> *sits on a chair* 10:02:44 *** nekomasterx [~nekomaste@bas6-toronto12-1088883271.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Quit: Bye for now!] 10:03:08 <Rubidium> back to a nice silence again :) 10:03:15 <Doorslammer> God I hate him 10:05:22 *** Pikka [PikkaBird@58.173.248.50] has joined #openttd 10:06:30 <Rubidium> is it a cloud, is it a plane, is it a bird? Yes it's PikkaBird :) 10:06:48 <Pikka> dadeedo! 10:07:15 <Doorslammer> PikkaBird, any bird 10:07:29 <Pikka> sup chaps 10:17:06 <Belugas> ho... fuck... Neko is from Toronto... 10:17:14 * Belugas will never put his feet there again 10:28:49 *** lobster [~michielbi@86.89.201.189] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:30:23 *** lobster [~michielbi@86.89.201.189] has joined #openttd 10:34:27 *** Exl [~myself@cp1224652-a.roemd1.lb.home.nl] has joined #openttd 10:35:24 *** nicfer [~Usuario@168.226.104.184] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:41:01 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.16.205.155] has joined #openttd 10:42:34 *** Mks [~mks@c83-176-234-98.cust.tele2.se] has quit [] 10:44:16 <Eddi|zuHause> you know enough bad people from toronto now? :p 10:46:00 *** Pikkaa [PikkaBird@58.173.248.50] has joined #openttd 10:48:05 <z-MaTRiX> hey-ho 10:48:14 *** Pikka [PikkaBird@58.173.248.50] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:48:22 <Eddi|zuHause> if Pikka has bird flu, does he go Pikka Chu? 10:49:19 <SmatZ> hehe 10:49:22 <SmatZ> hello z-MaTRiX 10:49:43 <z-MaTRiX> SmatZ<< \o/ 10:49:49 <Doorslammer> Eddi, your coat and hat awaits... 10:51:06 <Eddi|zuHause> nah, it's fine as long as no rotten vegetables are following a trajectory 10:51:41 <Doorslammer> Ill have a look in the fridge 10:52:08 <TrueBrain> burp 10:52:59 <SmatZ> eww 10:53:08 <TrueBrain> yes, that it was 10:54:00 <Doorslammer> Now what am I going to throw at Eddi? 10:54:18 <Doorslammer> That block of cheese was in there at least 4... hmmm, maybe 5 years? 10:54:47 <Eddi|zuHause> hey, that could be worth something by now ;) 10:55:52 * welshdragon spots a haggis 10:58:54 <Doorslammer> Ooh, ooh 10:58:56 <Doorslammer> Kill it 10:59:08 <Doorslammer> Thin the beasties! 10:59:14 * Pikkaa wonders how Yexo is getting on 11:00:44 *** Coco-Banana-Man [~Stephan.D@p5B2DEC83.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:01:54 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@p5B2B0A9A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 11:04:18 *** KritiK [~Maxim@93-80-0-175.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 11:06:44 *** tokai [~tokai@p5B2B1370.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:08:08 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AFA093.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 11:15:25 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.130] has joined #openttd 11:15:35 *** R0b0t1 [~Enigma@64-136-216-213.dyn.everestkc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:19:33 *** Pikkaa is now known as Pikka 11:21:33 *** reldred [~reldred@115.131.202.50] has joined #openttd 11:22:04 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has joined #openttd 11:24:21 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B9D1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:25:17 *** tux_mark_5 [~kvirc@lan-84-240-29-163.vln.skynet.lt] has joined #openttd 11:29:12 *** Grelouk [~Grelouk@252.69.200-77.rev.gaoland.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:31:25 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r17376 /trunk/src/widget.cpp: -Fix: also draw the white "I've just opened" line for nested windows 11:46:53 *** nfc [nfc@cable-hvk-fe7ede00-156.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 11:49:01 *** Yexo [~Yexo@32-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has joined #openttd 11:49:51 <Pikka> dun dun dun! 11:50:16 *** MizardX- [MizardX@h-28-236.A159.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 11:50:40 *** MizardX [MizardX@h-28-236.A159.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:50:47 *** MizardX- is now known as MizardX 11:53:14 *** TinoDidriksen [~tino@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:54:14 *** TinoDidriksen [~tino@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 11:56:42 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:8005:20d5:43b1:bb01] has joined #openttd 11:56:45 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 12:03:07 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: yexo * r17377 /trunk/src/widget_type.h: -Fix (r17365): MSVC complains about struct<>class difference 12:04:28 <TrueBrain> stupid MSVC :p 12:05:16 <TinoDidriksen> Complains how? Never noticed that. 12:05:25 <Yexo> complains = warns 12:06:49 <TinoDidriksen> Only if you mismatch, such as forward declare with class and define with struct... 12:07:03 <TrueBrain> but a class === a struct 12:07:16 <TrueBrain> (only the default private/public state is different) 12:07:28 <TrueBrain> (in C++ :p) 12:07:32 <TinoDidriksen> I know, but I'd consider that a fair warning...obviously, your code is inconsistent. 12:08:41 *** tdev_ [~tdev@p508EC84C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:09:03 *** tdev [~tdev@p508EC84C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 12:10:03 *** tdev [~tdev@p508EC84C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:10:24 *** tdev [~tdev@p508EC84C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 12:10:40 *** tdev [~tdev@p508EC84C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 12:11:00 *** tdev [~tdev@p508EC84C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 12:11:34 <TinoDidriksen> But indeed, g++ doesn't even mention it, even at -ansi -pedantic -Wall -Wextra 12:27:03 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:38:34 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:46:02 *** green-devil [Lisby@d40a9a89.rev.stofanet.dk] has joined #openttd 12:48:35 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: yexo * r17378 /trunk/src/ai/api/ai_tile.cpp: -Fix [NoAI]: Several AITile::* functions didn't check whether their parameters were valid 12:52:49 *** nicfer [~Usuario@168.226.105.37] has joined #openttd 12:53:17 <Belugas> oh... Yexo... that is so inconsistent! 12:55:41 <Yexo> I blame TrueBrain! 12:55:43 <Yexo> :p 12:56:08 <TrueBrain> I take the blame! 12:56:13 <TrueBrain> (does that make you happy?) 12:57:01 <Yexo> no 12:57:04 <Yexo> (should it?) 12:57:16 <TrueBrain> I was hoping so. Why else would I take the blame? 12:58:26 <Belugas> ... 12:58:35 <Belugas> that was... ironic on my behalf... 12:58:36 <TrueBrain> oeh, I know thatone 12:58:37 <TrueBrain> DOTS! 12:58:58 <Rubidium> ... is the new lol 12:59:04 <Belugas> heheh 12:59:13 <Yexo> ... 12:59:26 <Rubidium> rof... 13:00:00 <TrueBrain> EPIC FAIL! 13:00:26 <Belugas> picepicecolegram 13:00:34 <Belugas> boureboureratatam 13:00:46 <glx> amstramgram 13:00:48 <TrueBrain> weirdweirdperson 13:00:50 <Belugas> eyah :D 13:01:01 <Belugas> glx knows ;) 13:01:23 <TrueBrain> he knows all, not? 13:01:52 <Belugas> well... a lot. 13:02:00 <Belugas> silent wizard 13:03:45 <TrueBrain> I HATE flash websites 13:04:15 <Belugas> have you tried spiderman websites? 13:04:35 *** Doorslammer [Doorslamme@PIPP-p-203-54-115-248.prem.tmns.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:08:04 *** Aankhen`` [~foo@122.162.167.218] has joined #openttd 13:10:19 <Aankhen``> I've seen a few zoomed out, top down pictures of maps (giving an overview of the network, usually). Is there some kind of tool that takes those pictures? 13:11:07 <Belugas> a patch, if i recall correctly 13:11:29 <Aankhen``> Ah. 13:11:33 <Belugas> if you mean a screenshot withouth the usual projection, of course 13:11:50 <TrueBrain> no: photoshop / gimp 13:11:53 <Aankhen``> I'm not sure I understand what projection is in this context. 13:11:58 <TrueBrain> big screenshot, rotate 45 degrees, and tada 13:13:22 <Aankhen``> http://www.openttdcoop.org/blog/files/pictures/osqc%2301_map.png # an example of what I meant. 13:13:30 *** Doorslammer [Doorslamme@PIPP-p-203-54-115-248.prem.tmns.net.au] has joined #openttd 13:13:32 <Aankhen``> That's done with image manipulation programs? 13:13:54 <TrueBrain> yes 13:14:54 <Aankhen``> Huh. How does it take a 2D image of a 3D object and provide a view of the same 3D object from another angle? 13:15:11 <Ammler> he, I get 403 there 13:15:14 <TrueBrain> [15:11] <TrueBrain> big screenshot, rotate 45 degrees, and tada 13:15:22 <Belugas> ho... yeah... that is done with imaging software 13:15:37 <TrueBrain> (well, there is some stretching involved too of course) 13:15:48 <Aankhen``> Ah. 13:16:07 <Aankhen``> I'll try it out, thanks for the pointer. 13:18:45 *** reldred [~reldred@115.131.202.50] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:21:31 <tdev> morning :) 13:21:38 <tdev> also, seems to work: http://openttd.buildbotfarm.net:10301/waterfall 13:22:07 <Belugas> hey tdev 13:23:34 <TrueBrain> too bad we don't have enough resources to compile on every commit .. 13:24:49 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r17379 /trunk/src/ (company_cmd.cpp graph_gui.cpp): -Codechange: make the performance rating window nested, although it still needs some improvements 13:25:01 <Rubidium> TrueBrain: why not? average of ~10 commits a day, with 45 minutes a compile -> lots of spare time :) 13:25:43 <Yexo> that only works for the average day 13:25:50 <Yexo> there are 12 commits in the last 6 hours 13:25:52 <Belugas> "don't commit before compile farm kicks in" 13:26:05 *** cipi97 [~cipik97@92.84.89.37] has left #openttd [] 13:26:59 *** lisby [Lisby@d40a9a89.rev.stofanet.dk] has joined #openttd 13:27:16 <tdev> do you have any more ideas what to do with the buildbot? 13:27:35 *** lisby [Lisby@d40a9a89.rev.stofanet.dk] has quit [] 13:27:48 *** lisby [Lisby@d40a9a89.rev.stofanet.dk] has joined #openttd 13:28:10 *** lisby [Lisby@d40a9a89.rev.stofanet.dk] has quit [] 13:28:13 *** lisby [Lisby@d40a9a89.rev.stofanet.dk] has joined #openttd 13:28:17 <Aankhen``> The buildbot doesn't queue up builds? 13:29:21 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@188.123.106.105] has joined #openttd 13:30:49 *** green-devil [Lisby@d40a9a89.rev.stofanet.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:33:27 *** cipi97 [~cipik97@92.84.89.37] has joined #openttd 13:33:48 *** lisby [Lisby@d40a9a89.rev.stofanet.dk] has left #openttd [] 13:38:36 <tdev> Aankhen``, it does 13:39:26 <Aankhen``> So then can't it just dump every commit in the queue? 13:39:58 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r17380 /trunk/src/graph_gui.cpp: -Codechange: move drawing the performance detail data to DrawWidget 13:40:08 <tdev> Aankhen``, i dont get what you mean with that 13:40:46 <Belugas> i gues you both are not talking about the same thing :) 13:40:55 <Aankhen``> Heh, guess not. Nevermind. 13:42:27 <tdev> so who wants to attach different arichtecutres to the buildbot? ;) 13:42:55 <Belugas> ho... i would LOVE to 13:43:04 <Belugas> but i suck in building drawing 13:43:24 <tdev> heh? 13:43:30 <Belugas> architectures... 13:43:35 * Aankhen`` giggles. 13:43:50 <Pikka> the... architect sketch. up there! 13:44:14 <Belugas> mister Artist! 13:44:53 <tdev> hrhr 13:48:33 <Xaroth> tdev: the Reasons show as "Reason: " on the commits, why not make that show the commit message as well? :o 13:49:34 <Rubidium> what's the point of the buildbot anyway? 13:49:45 <Xaroth> oh and I hope the "Build #" are going to reflect the revision of the svn? or is it a different indicator 13:49:57 <tdev> Rubidium, look at this: http://lighttpd.buildbotfarm.net:10201/waterfall 13:49:59 <TrueBrain> Rubidium: in theory it can be useful if it would be in the openttd.org, as an early warning indicator of problems, like for OSX and the like :p 13:50:27 <Rubidium> yeah, but then it needs to check *all* configurations and not only a dedicated server without any GUI stuff 13:50:45 <TrueBrain> yes, it would require all targets to be useful 13:50:47 <tdev> thats the idea i wanted to work towards 13:51:10 <tdev> but it depends on users attaching slaves in macos for example 13:51:14 <Rubidium> still you'll get a kind of 'target' explosion 13:51:19 <TrueBrain> and we don't have enough trusted resources to run such system 13:51:37 <tdev> i doesnt need to be trusted, since the result is not used 13:51:47 <tdev> *it 13:52:00 <TrueBrain> non-trusted can trigger unneeded warnings and errors 13:52:02 <Rubidium> with+without libpng, with+without networking, with+without GUI, with+without freetype, with+without fontconfig, with+without icu, with+without sdl, with+without allegro, ... 13:52:22 <tdev> Rubidium, the lighttpd guys just enable all flags 13:52:27 <TrueBrain> Rubidium: that would be a complete set yes, which you can run once in the N time (no need to do that all the times 13:52:37 <TrueBrain> tdev: lighttpd != OpenTTD 13:52:52 <tdev> TrueBrain, just as example how to handle flag sets 13:52:56 <TrueBrain> in lighttpd adding flags just adds things .. in OpenTTD it can greatly change behavoir 13:53:13 <TrueBrain> (mostly the with or without network) 13:53:15 <Pikka> Yexo: did we decide that we want to specify entry points? 13:53:23 <Rubidium> oh, please let them first fix that massive memory 'leak'... instead of ignoring it and "use ulimit + supervise" as solution 13:53:34 <Yexo> Pikka: a 4-byte array 13:53:43 <Pikka> *nods* 13:53:46 <Pikka> what's the order? 13:53:59 <Rubidium> NE then with the clock I reckon 13:54:04 <Yexo> but I think we need to reconsider changing the flags of the node table from word to byte 13:54:05 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 13:54:19 <Yexo> NE/SE/SW/NW 13:54:34 <Yexo> currently coded at prop 0x18, but that can easily be changed 13:54:45 <Pikka> okay, I'll make it 0x18 13:55:06 <Rubidium> TrueBrain: yet those cases are the cases that are tested least and where it takes longest to find 13:55:24 <Pikka> flags... are already a byte? :o at least, they are in the spec on the wiki page 13:55:32 <Rubidium> nevertheless, you'd probably end up with a shitload of compilers (msvc, gcc, icc) 13:55:37 <Pikka> xx xx yy yy zz zz dd ff 13:55:39 <Yexo> yes, but internally inopenttd they are a word 13:55:49 <Rubidium> then the various architectures with their different shell implementations 13:55:50 <TrueBrain> Rubidium: such flags you can test every 24 hours with 1 compiler, for example 13:55:56 <Yexo> and there are several flags that can be usefull to have 13:56:01 <TrueBrain> they are not that sensitive to other compilers and/or platforms 13:56:17 <Yexo> http://pastebin.com/me3f1046 <- current flags 13:56:20 <TrueBrain> the idea is more to test it for various of architects and compilers 13:56:22 <tdev> the main work would be to setup this logic 13:56:28 <TrueBrain> like MSVC always bitching us gcc users ;) 13:56:39 <TrueBrain> (and gcc always bitching those MSVC users :p) 13:56:44 <Yexo> LAND / TAKEOFF are used for example to know when the z-pos should change 13:57:00 <Pikka> hmm 13:57:02 <Yexo> but maybe we want to use the z-value of the node for that 13:57:06 <Rubidium> well, how do you intend to 'catch' MSVC errors/warnings? It doesn't use stderr 13:57:13 <Pikka> yeah @ z value of the node 13:57:15 <TrueBrain> we do that now :) 13:57:26 <Pikka> so that we can have planes changing altitude in a stack, or sloped airports... ;) 13:59:05 <Rubidium> TrueBrain: really, take a look at the logs in http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r17134/logs/ 13:59:42 <Rubidium> win64 and win32 do not have an error log, as such show not that there are some (actually a lot) warnings 13:59:53 <TrueBrain> Rubidium: a simple grep will solve that 14:00:05 <TrueBrain> really, don't start to give crappy arguments :) You know as well as I do that those problems can be overcome :) 14:00:38 <TrueBrain> if it wasn't for resources problems, we would have had a buildbot in CF2.0 :p 14:00:40 <Rubidium> ofcourse, but does it make sense to spend a lot of time on it? 14:00:53 <TrueBrain> in general it helps you catch errors much sooner 14:00:57 <Yexo> Pikka: then there is the NOSPDCLAMP flag 14:01:03 <Yexo> it's used for the maximum aircraft speed 14:01:14 <TrueBrain> yesterday alone I noticed 2 or 3 commits which fixed other compilers 14:02:06 <Rubidium> yeah, but you're going to run windows test compiles for: 14:02:08 <TrueBrain> and when is the last time anyone tried BSD? 14:02:12 <TrueBrain> and who knows who did that? 14:02:13 <Rubidium> gcc 3.4.5, gcc 4.4 and MSVC? 14:02:24 <Pikka> maximum aircraft speed while taxiing? 14:02:27 *** OwenS [~oshepherd@cpc1-stkn13-0-0-cust18.midd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 14:02:41 <Rubidium> cause each compiler had it's own problems 14:02:49 <Rubidium> or warnings, or whatever :) 14:02:53 <TrueBrain> as I said, there is a resource problem 14:02:57 <TrueBrain> doesn't mean it wouldn't be useful 14:02:57 <tdev> im not here to cause problems, just trying to help :( 14:03:09 <TrueBrain> the resource problem being memory shortage, for the record 14:03:31 <Pikka> so NOSPDCLAMP should be set for... air nodes, or ground nodes? Or could we just make it so that the speed is automatically clamped based on the aircraft's movement state? 14:03:31 <Rubidium> gheheh :) 14:03:33 <Yexo> Pikka: yes, relevant openttd code: http://pastebin.com/md74a28a 14:03:39 <Rubidium> yay for bloatware :) 14:03:41 <Yexo> it should be set for air nodes 14:03:56 <Yexo> but vehicle movement state is undefined in your spec 14:04:05 <Yexo> so while that's possible, in that case we need to define that 14:04:27 <TrueBrain> a VM simply consumes too much memory ... 14:04:36 <TrueBrain> (well, if you also want to allow it to compile :p) 14:04:56 <tdev> TrueBrain, the slaves can run remotely anywhere 14:05:19 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has joined #openttd 14:05:25 <Pikka> yexo: vehicle movement state can be set via the callback (returns 81 xx where xx = movement state) 14:05:43 <Pikka> vehicle movement state is vehicle var 80+62 14:07:22 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:8005:20d5:43b1:bb01] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:08:00 <Rubidium> anyhow, having a proper (AI) regression is probably more useful than a buildbot 14:08:20 *** Mark [~Mark@5ED06D96.cable.ziggo.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:08:21 *** Pikkaa [PikkaBird@58.173.248.50] has joined #openttd 14:08:21 *** glx_ [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:8005:20d5:43b1:bb01] has joined #openttd 14:08:21 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx_] by ChanServ 14:08:21 *** [1]Mark [~Mark@5ED06D96.cable.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 14:08:21 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has joined #openttd 14:08:21 <TrueBrain> tdev: I was just explaining to Farden: yeah, sure, we can, but for how long? it is not good for a community to depend on the coming and going of people .. we have had enough problems with that in the past :p 14:08:21 <Yexo> pikka: vehicle var 80+62 in openttd is a mapping from the internal openttd state to approximately the same states in TTD 14:09:06 <tdev> TrueBrain, how would an open source project work otherways? 14:09:24 <TrueBrain> Rubidium: I don't agree; they test different things 14:09:25 <tdev> TrueBrain, for example the core team could provide the slaves 14:09:30 <Rubidium> by ginormously long waiting 14:09:37 <TrueBrain> a buildbot gives code-correctness over compilers; a regression tests their working 14:10:01 <Pikkaa> so, we can clamp the speed if it's in an "on the ground" state? is there a list of the ottd states somewhere, that's different from the list on the savegame internals page? 14:10:03 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: yexo * r17381 /trunk/src/music_gui.cpp: -Codechange: music track selection window uses nested widgets 14:10:22 <Rubidium> e.g. subversion takes a week between tagging the source release and actually doing the release because lots of third parties need to compile parts 14:10:23 <TrueBrain> tdev: say dev A supplies an OSX node. He leaves in 1 month. We are without OSX node again? People don't mind something you never had, but will notice IMMEDIATLY when something is no longer there 14:10:40 <Yexo> http://pastebin.com/m7cf97661 <- list of aircraft states 14:11:08 <Rubidium> for OpenTTD the time between tagging the source release and the binary release is under an hour 14:11:29 <Rubidium> with just a few keystrokes 14:11:57 <tdev> TrueBrain, very true, i agree :) 14:12:31 <TrueBrain> it is also the reason we now pay for hosting. At least this way we are sure we get it 14:12:37 <Rubidium> before the compile farm (basically everything over a year ago) it took a few hours to get a few binaries 14:12:43 <TrueBrain> (and that it doesn't depend on person A being active/here) 14:12:52 <Rubidium> and then you needed to poke the rest, like Bjarni (OSX) to get a binary 14:12:58 <tdev> i thought you get it sponsored? 14:13:05 <TrueBrain> sure, we get a good part sponsored 14:13:09 <TrueBrain> still leaves a good sum of money :) 14:13:21 <tdev> how much / moth? 14:13:24 <tdev> *month 14:13:25 <Rubidium> they would all manually go through all the steps of releasing making the occasional mistakes 14:13:46 *** Pikka [PikkaBird@58.173.248.50] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:13:51 <TrueBrain> Rubidium: those good old days :) I am so happy we no longer have that problem :) 14:14:02 <Rubidium> me too 14:14:06 <Pikkaa> hmm @ yexo 14:14:08 <TrueBrain> tdev: so in theory what we just need, is some provider offering us some cheap sponsorship or what ever for a really fast machine :p 14:14:16 <TrueBrain> (yes, another one :p Like one quad-core is not enough :p) 14:14:23 <TrueBrain> and mostly: A LOTS of memory :p 14:14:23 <Rubidium> sometimes took literally weeks before some binaries where present and people started complaining about missing them etc. 14:14:25 <Pikkaa> this is confusing.. we have two slightly different state lists. D: 14:15:00 <Rubidium> TrueBrain: octocore OSX Xserve with 12 GB? 14:15:10 <tdev> TrueBrain, thats what i currnetly doing, i provide a linux x86 build slave? 14:15:14 <TrueBrain> hmmm .. Rubidium: YES PLEASE! :) 14:15:24 <Pikkaa> personally, I'd rather use the TTD one in grfs, and have OTTD map it to its internal states (such as those internal states are still required with newgrf airports) 14:15:32 <TrueBrain> tdev: you are not a provider, are you? :) 14:15:42 *** Pikkaa is now known as Pikka 14:15:51 <TrueBrain> I want a contract, for a year, which states the contract is extended with one year every year 14:15:54 <tdev> TrueBrain, no, but i have a big machine running in the web 14:15:55 <TrueBrain> I want uptime guarantees 14:16:01 <TrueBrain> can you offer that? 14:16:01 <Yexo> I don't think openttd doesn't need to know about the state at all for newgrf airports 14:16:07 <tdev> http://www.hetzner.de/en/hosting/produktmatrix/rootserver-produktmatrix/ :) 14:16:14 <Yexo> they are just used for the internal state machine 14:16:16 *** Pikkaa [PikkaBird@58.173.248.50] has joined #openttd 14:16:16 <tdev> 50 euros / month is not much 14:16:27 <TrueBrain> clearly tdev doesn't understand :) 14:16:38 <Yexo> so I'd rather have the freedom for each newgrf to define their own list 14:16:38 <tdev> seems so ;) 14:16:52 <Pikkaa> yexo: I think I missed a line 14:16:53 <TrueBrain> lol, cheap servers :p 14:17:05 <Yexo> <Yexo> I don't think openttd doesn't need to know about the state at all for newgrf airports 14:17:08 <Yexo> <Yexo> they are just used for the internal state machine 14:17:13 <Pikkaa> *nods* 14:17:34 <Yexo> but that means that we need another thing to use for speed clamping 14:17:47 <Pikkaa> but aircraft grfs (like av8) still use the states for graphics and speed variation 14:17:48 <tdev> TrueBrain, what about those servers? 14:18:13 <TrueBrain> tdev: this is an open source community :) No way we can pay 600 euro a month additional to what we already pay 14:18:14 <Yexo> hmm, forgot about that 14:18:38 <Yexo> so we either use the ttd one or have another variable for the airport newgrf to store the ttd-compatible state in 14:18:51 <Rubidium> TrueBrain: but payment is optional! 14:19:15 <TrueBrain> Rubidium: haha :) WE TAKE IT! :p 14:19:19 <Pikkaa> well, the states don't all need to be used in the new system... we could just make it so... 14:19:24 <tdev> TrueBrain, 600 euros a month!? 14:19:35 <TrueBrain> a year, sorry 14:19:36 * OwenS complains about mkvmerge consuming all his RAM 14:19:44 <TrueBrain> lol @ OwenS 14:19:55 <Pikkaa> Yexo, let me write something on the wiki, just a second. 14:19:59 <tdev> TrueBrain, we got 2400 euros a year for RoR 14:20:01 <OwenS> Why is it bufferint the whole file in RAM? 14:20:05 <tdev> so that fits easily 14:20:22 <OwenS> I don't WANT my RAM full of MPEG-2... I want it usable 14:20:23 <TrueBrain> and what has <random other project> have to do with us? Sorry, I miss that link? 14:20:38 <tdev> <TrueBrain> tdev: this is an open source community :) 14:20:46 <tdev> the project i speak of is also OS ... 14:20:48 <TrueBrain> so if RoR manages to make 2400 euro a year, so should we? 14:20:52 <tdev> no 14:21:09 <tdev> i just said that its possible to have those servers as a OS project theretically ;) 14:21:18 <TrueBrain> in theory we can have lots of things 14:21:28 <TrueBrain> wikipedia makes milions of dollars a year 14:21:37 <TrueBrain> but that doesn't help us :p 14:21:47 <Rubidium> anyhow, if we get a second server it basically needs to be a OSX one 14:22:00 <OwenS> I must say this is the first time I've had 1GB of swap used... 14:22:04 <orudge> also, if we were to be making millions of dollars a year, and somebody were to then come along and claim the whole project was illegal due to its origins, I'd probably end up in prison as the person who received all the money ;) 14:22:30 <orudge> so, hmm, if you do want to give millions of dollars, make them out to tt-forums and not openttd :p 14:22:35 <TrueBrain> Rubidium: I tend to agree with that. Or at least a system we can run OSX on :p 14:22:43 <TrueBrain> orudge: hehe :) 14:22:50 <TrueBrain> orudge: did you read my request in the other channel the other day? 14:23:00 <TrueBrain> about some other project which will not be named here? :p 14:23:13 <orudge> TrueBrain: I'm not sure I did 14:23:16 <orudge> or if I did, I forgot perhaps 14:23:27 <orudge> feel free to re-mention in the other channel :p 14:23:46 *** Pikka [PikkaBird@58.173.248.50] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:24:48 <OwenS> *sigh* only 8 of 28 episodes remultiplexed 14:25:23 *** Pikkaa is now known as Pikka 14:29:24 <Pikka> Yexo: http://users.tt-forums.net/pikka/wiki/index.php?title=Newgrf_Airports_Documentation#Aircraft_movement_states 14:29:56 *** cipi97 [~cipik97@92.84.89.37] has left #openttd [] 14:31:22 <Yexo> Pikka: looks like a sane approach 14:33:45 <Pikka> :) 14:33:56 <Pikka> also, what do you think about this change to state 2 @ http://users.tt-forums.net/pikka/wiki/index.php?title=Newgrf_Airports_Documentation#state_machine_callback 14:34:15 <Pikka> does this reasonably replicate the slow turn flag? 14:35:15 <Yexo> not really, the slow-turn flag is also used in the air 14:35:29 <Pikka> oh 14:36:01 <Pikka> I was just using additional nodes in the air for widening turns. we can include the slow turn flag too, then. 14:36:02 <Yexo> an aircraft will start to run 4 pixels before it reached the node, but if AMED_SLOWTURN is set it'll start to turn 8 pixels before 14:36:12 <Pikka> hmm 14:36:36 <Pikka> does it automatically stop and turn on the ground if it needs to turn more than 45? 14:37:01 <Pikka> in which case, what I just added is unnecessary. :] 14:37:02 <Yexo> checking that now 14:38:21 <Yexo> it looks like the slowturn flag is only used for nodes in the air 14:38:31 <Pikka> I see 14:38:41 <Pikka> hmm 14:39:25 <Yexo> if an aircraft on the ground needs to be turned, it'll turn 45degrees per tick and speed is halved for every turn 14:39:37 <Pikka> :o 14:39:42 <Pikka> okay, I guess that makes sense 14:39:55 <Pikka> forget what I just added then *removes it* :P 14:43:19 *** tdev [~tdev@p508EC84C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:45:22 <Rubidium> Pikka: OpenTTD goes beyond the year 65535 14:45:58 <Pikka> and, Rubidium? :P 14:46:07 <Rubidium> 08-09 (2xw) - Years available (start and end year. 0000 and FFFF are forever respectively) 14:46:15 <Rubidium> ^ might give troubles with that 14:46:36 <Yexo> Rubidium: no, FFFF is converted to MAX_YEAR :) 14:46:52 <Pikka> zacly :P 14:47:10 <Rubidium> there goes the 1 million years in the future pack :) 14:47:45 <Pikka> they'll just have to make it the 50,000 years in the future pack 14:47:48 *** OwenS [~oshepherd@cpc1-stkn13-0-0-cust18.midd.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:49:23 <Pikka> Yexo: what's the callback number for the statemachine? 14:49:26 <Rubidium> should the spec change the catchment radius calculations? This change seems to make getting the catchment area of a train station joining an airport more cumbersome 14:49:43 <Eddi|zuHause> <tdev> also, seems to work: http://openttd.buildbotfarm.net:10301/waterfall <-- is this really how it's supposed to look? www.informatik.uni-halle.de/~krause/Bildschirmphoto14.png 14:49:48 <Yexo> 0x14E <- but that is just the first free number in the openttdcode 14:50:05 <Pikka> rubidium: I don't know how the current catchment radius calculation works 14:50:22 <Pikka> I've no problem with changing it to make it more consistent 14:51:15 <Yexo> Pikka: in that case just remove "high byte is the xy offset of the centre from the top corner of the airport. ", and maybe make it a byte 14:51:16 <Rubidium> Pikka: find most northern tile of station, most southern tile of station, create rectangle based on those points, enlarge the rectangle with <catchement area> in all directions 14:51:54 <Rubidium> hmm, not quite right... I forgot to add the eastern and western tiles too ;) 14:52:38 <Rubidium> but yes, removing the high byte does the trick 14:53:51 <Pikka> okay 14:54:27 <Rubidium> Pikka: any way OpenTTD should chose between the 4 station names? 14:54:46 <Rubidium> or is it 'just' random? 14:55:04 <helb> Eddi|zuHause: probably not, looks fine to me (also in konqueror) 14:55:12 <Pikka> I'd imagined it starts with the first one, and if it's not available goes to the next one, etc 14:55:32 <Pikka> until it runs out of defined names, then it goes to "x airport", etc 14:56:05 <Rubidium> generally you only have 1 or 2 airports per town, right? So 4 names sounds a bit redundant 14:56:31 <Yexo> not really, the airport names need not include the town name 14:57:14 <Yexo> and especially for really small airports you can easily have more airports per town 14:58:09 <Rubidium> Yexo: but the name generation algorithm doesn't work for names without town (it will then create duplicates) 14:58:28 *** nicfer [~Usuario@168.226.105.37] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:59:18 <Yexo> I see 14:59:19 <Rubidium> and even trickier: how to store it? Cause the airport spec of a station can change 14:59:36 <Yexo> copy the name (store it as string, not stringid)? 14:59:48 <Yexo> that way the strings don't need the town name :p 15:00:00 <Rubidium> then it's a custom name, which implies it doesn't do duplicate checking with the generated names 15:00:01 <SmatZ> it's not language-independent 15:00:29 <Rubidium> as a result the first name is always 'free', thus lots of duplicate names 15:01:06 <Yexo> can it be stored in the same way as for industrie-related station names? 15:01:45 <Rubidium> yes-ish, but that implies either adding 2 variables or 1 and dropping 3 of the 4 custom names 15:04:39 *** TrogDoor [Doorslamme@PIPP-p-203-54-229-152.prem.tmns.net.au] has joined #openttd 15:10:25 *** Chris_Booth [~Chris_Boo@client-82-27-236-169.brnt.adsl.virgin.net] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.2/20090729225027]] 15:10:56 *** Doorslammer [Doorslamme@PIPP-p-203-54-115-248.prem.tmns.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:11:16 *** TrogDoor is now known as Doorslammer 15:13:45 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: yexo * r17382 /trunk/src/aircraft_cmd.cpp: -Cleanup: don't set load_unload_time_rem when an aircraft turns in the air as it's not used 15:15:51 <Yexo> Pikka: what's the difference between prop 12 and 13? 15:17:08 <Xaroth> happy birthday intarwebs :o 15:17:21 <TrueBrain> who? 15:17:48 <Xaroth> http://www.nu.nl/internet/2073836/internet-is-weer-eens-jarig.html ... for the dutchies 15:18:16 <Eddi|zuHause> helb: it looks fine in firefox and konqueror/KDE3, but not in konqueror/KDE4 15:19:03 <Pikka> Yexo: 12 is the name ("Farm Airstrip"), 13 is a short description (3 or 4 lines in the build window, maybe runway length, whatever the creator wants to put). Similar to the extra information for vehicles. 15:19:16 *** bb10 [~nn@dhcp-077-248-075-030.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 15:19:16 <helb> Eddi|zuHause: i have konqueror 4 (from svn) and it looks fine both in khtml and webkit 15:19:22 <Yexo> ok :) 15:19:42 <Eddi|zuHause> well, obviously it screws up chosing the right font here 15:19:48 <Yexo> Pikka: and I have a new property: a tile array with all depot tiles 15:22:55 *** Pikkaa [PikkaBird@58.173.248.50] has joined #openttd 15:23:16 <Pikkaa> yexo: oh yes? sorry, disconnected 15:23:28 <TrueBrain> again? :p 15:23:38 <Pikkaa> yep, wireless is playing up tonight 15:24:33 <Yexo> Pikkaa: in your spec there is no way for openttd to figure out what tiles are depot tiles 15:24:49 <Pikkaa> yes there is :P 15:25:01 <Yexo> englighten me :) 15:25:16 <Pikkaa> an action 0 property for the tiles 15:25:48 <Pikkaa> hmm 15:26:12 <Pikkaa> the statemachine callback needs another return value... 15:26:31 <Pikkaa> "enter hangar number x" 15:26:47 <Pikkaa> and the hangar needs to know what node to put exiting aircraft at... 15:27:05 *** Pikka [PikkaBird@58.173.248.50] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:27:13 *** Pikkaa is now known as Pikka 15:27:30 <Pikka> *thinks* 15:28:17 <Pikka> hmm 15:29:03 <Pikka> if we make the low nibble of the node flag byte the hangar exit number, it means that airports will be limited to 15 hangars... 15:30:17 <Belugas> yeah.. that's very a small number of hangars ^_^ 15:30:58 <Pikka> still, a limit is a limit :P 15:31:16 <Belugas> oh..that, i cannot agree more 15:31:18 *** DaleStan [~Dale@98.223.108.117] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:31:22 <Yexo> but how do you define the hangar number? 15:31:30 *** DaleStan [~Dale@98.223.108.117] has joined #openttd 15:31:41 <Pikka> with an action 0 of the tile 15:32:38 <Pikka> a hangar can be more than one tile, of course... if you click on any tile with a given value, it opens that hangar's window 15:32:47 <Yexo> so a tile has a property "hanager number", 0 for is no hangar? 15:32:51 <Pikka> yep 15:33:22 <Yexo> ok (can you add that to the Action 0 Airport Tiles section?) 15:33:28 <Pikka> yep 15:33:40 <Pikka> just a second 15:35:24 <Pikka> there, property 0x13 15:35:58 *** Farden [jk3farden@lns-bzn-48f-81-56-247-196.adsl.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:36:05 *** Farden [jk3farden@lns-bzn-48f-81-56-247-196.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 15:37:18 <Pikka> also, updated the node array format, and added 84 0x return for the callback (enter the hangar specified in the low byte) 15:39:23 <Pikka> I'm just about finished updating my test grf.. just gotta write the statemachine. ^^; 15:41:14 <Yexo> hehe, _just_ ahve to write the staemachine :) 15:41:50 <Pikka> it's only got 16 nodes, one runway, one bay and one hangar, it won't be too hard. ;) 15:42:40 <Pikka> hmm 15:42:50 <SmatZ> does it mean removing a GRF can cause deadlocked aircraft? 15:43:10 <SmatZ> maybe aircraft on invalid airport should be removed then (as well as the airport) 15:43:15 <Yexo> SmatZ: that's something I don't even want to think about currently 15:43:22 <SmatZ> hehe :) 15:43:36 <Yexo> but it's easy to move all aircraft to the air when a newgrf is removed, and disallow use of the airport thereafter 15:44:12 <SmatZ> true 15:45:33 <Belugas> OR 15:45:35 <Belugas> hem.. 15:45:36 <Belugas> no 15:45:44 * Belugas goes back in hybernation 15:45:45 <Pikka> yexo: should the action 3 for the airport eventually point to a menu graphic? just trying to work out what the format of the action 2 should be 15:46:12 <Pikka> since a menu graphic has no load states, ground tiles, etc ^^; 15:46:14 <Yexo> Pikka: that seems like a good idea,but not implemented for now 15:46:21 <Pikka> okay, I'll leave it out for now 15:46:45 <Pikka> hmm 15:46:52 <Pikka> it does need somewhere for the callback to fail to though 15:48:49 <Pikka> wow 15:48:58 <Pikka> I really made a mess of the example code on the wiki 15:51:59 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:52:14 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 15:53:12 <Yexo> Pikka: tile subname string, will that be prop 14?\ 15:53:25 <Doorslammer> Another brilliantly intelligent question coming up (groan) 15:53:32 <Pikka> I don't see why not, Yexo 15:53:37 <Doorslammer> Where are the town names stored? 15:54:11 <Belugas> in the savegame 15:54:36 <Pikka> btw, my test grf uses var 43 from http://wiki.ttdpatch.net/tiki-index.php?page=VarAction2IndustryTiles , if that's not implemented yet. 15:54:59 <Doorslammer> Oh, I mean when they are generated I mean 15:55:01 <Yexo> nearly no varaction 2 variables are implemented 15:55:06 <Doorslammer> What are they generated from? 15:55:08 <Yexo> but I'll make sure to implement that one soon 15:55:20 <Yexo> from town name parts 15:57:16 <Belugas> town name parts can be specified from a grf or from internal data tables 15:57:43 <Doorslammer> Fair enough 15:59:05 <Belugas> if you're interested in the data tables, that is in the sources of OpenTTD 16:01:05 <Yexo> Pikka: implement var 43 16:01:16 <Yexo> I have to go now 16:01:32 <Pikka> okay :) thanks 16:01:44 <Pikka> I'll soldier on, see if I can remember how to do this :P 16:02:15 <Belugas> Doorslammer : table\namegen.h 16:04:10 <Belugas> or in an easier way... http://svn.openttd.org/trunk/src/table/namegen.h 16:04:44 <Doorslammer> Ah, gotcha 16:10:48 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AFA093.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:20:02 <Dreamxtreme> dammit 16:20:29 <Dreamxtreme> ive just spent a hour building a railway which isn't electrified 16:20:43 <Dreamxtreme> wish you convert the whole track # 16:20:58 <planetmaker> you know 'c' ? 16:21:04 <planetmaker> or the convert button? 16:21:12 <planetmaker> and its drag functionality? 16:21:13 <Dreamxtreme> o 16:21:21 <Dreamxtreme> lol 16:21:25 <Dreamxtreme> n00b alert 16:21:32 <planetmaker> hahahaha :-D 16:21:45 <Belugas> a kick!!! a kick!!! he said the forbidden word!!!! 16:21:55 <Belugas> mmh... too bad... in context :P 16:22:03 * Belugas goes back in hybernation 16:22:07 <Dreamxtreme> o yea 16:22:08 <Dreamxtreme> oops 16:22:23 * planetmaker gives Belugas a thick mantle so he doesn't freeze too much :-P 16:22:51 * planetmaker also steals a y and gives an i 16:23:07 <TrueBrain> Belugas: context or not, he promised he wouldn't say it! 16:24:10 <Dreamxtreme> o come on 16:24:16 <Dreamxtreme> 1st one of the day 16:24:24 <Dreamxtreme> anyway 16:24:32 <Dreamxtreme> im going to convert my railway 16:24:46 *** Zahl [~Zahl@f051152006.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 16:24:56 <Belugas> thanks, planetmaker, but wth that layer of fat around, no need to worry ;) 16:25:09 <planetmaker> haha :-) 16:25:19 * Belugas gives a "h" and a "'" to Dreamxtreme 16:25:27 <planetmaker> you're related to the Canadian grizzlies? :-P 16:25:57 <Belugas> mmh... TrueBrain, you think we could ask glx to add a new rule on his bot? hehe 16:26:22 <Belugas> planetmaker: you know how belugas can endure the arctic temps of he water? 16:26:48 <planetmaker> hehe :-) Fair enough 16:27:07 <Belugas> plus.. well... i'm somewhat related to the beast. i'm tall, pale skin (well.. not now... we had a nice summer) and a belly that is not so flat 16:27:09 <Belugas> anymore 16:27:10 <Belugas> booooo 16:27:43 * planetmaker hugs Belugas 16:28:59 <Dreamxtreme> Belugas gives a "h" and a "'" to Dreamxtreme ???? 16:29:03 <Dreamxtreme> i dont get it 16:30:19 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@p5B2B0A9A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:30:57 <Belugas> [12:24] <Dreamxtreme> o come on 16:30:58 <Belugas> and 16:31:04 <Pikka> he needs an e more than anything else :) 16:31:04 <Belugas> [12:24] <Dreamxtreme> im going to convert my railway 16:31:21 <planetmaker> which tells me that you're 6h behind my time, Belugas ;-) 16:31:59 <Belugas> ho.. shit... you've discovered my secret! 16:32:24 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@p5B2B39BF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 16:32:34 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590ff589.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 16:33:26 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@88.130.175.226] has joined #openttd 16:33:42 <Dreamxtreme> omg 16:33:47 <Dreamxtreme> i almost wrote it 16:33:52 <Dreamxtreme> but stoped myself 16:34:10 <fjb> Faster, faster, a Belugas is only 6 hours behind us! 16:34:42 <Belugas> SNAP SNAP SNAP!! 16:34:53 <Dreamxtreme> you mean 5 hours 16:35:25 <Belugas> depends, the wworld is a big place... 16:35:37 <Belugas> my wife always complain that i'm late... 16:35:39 * Dreamxtreme takes a w from Belugas 16:35:39 <Belugas> so... 16:35:46 <Belugas> www.world 16:37:04 *** KritiK [~Maxim@93-80-0-175.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:37:54 *** Katt [endre@flux.kryptoanarki.st] has joined #openttd 16:38:40 <Katt> Hello channel. I have a pretty weird problem with OTTD 0.7.2 in debian which I can't really figure out. 16:38:58 <Belugas> miaoow 16:39:01 <Belugas> hem... 16:39:03 <Belugas> welcome 16:39:05 <Katt> Meow. 16:39:06 <Katt> Thanks. 16:39:20 <Belugas> my cat speaks french :P 16:39:22 <Katt> Anyway, the thing is, I can't start ottd from anywhere BUT the terminal. 16:39:39 <planetmaker> is that a problem? ;-) 16:39:54 <Katt> Well, not really, but I do like my shortcuts in my menu. :P 16:39:56 <planetmaker> you might want to setup the working dir then correctly. 16:40:25 <Katt> I thought that might've been the problem, but I can start openttd regardless of the working directory 16:40:38 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@88.130.161.12] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:40:45 <Katt> And yes, the binary is in /usr/games/openttd 16:41:01 <Belugas> you compiled it yourself or was it a download? 16:41:14 <Katt> Download directly from the official site 16:41:36 <Katt> I'm running testing, and the latest in the repo was 0.7.1 16:42:09 <Belugas> damned... my idea fails 16:42:14 <Katt> Only "strange" thing I had to do was to get libicu38 from stable 16:42:23 <Katt> As it's not in testing or sid 16:42:36 <planetmaker> he... 16:42:42 <Katt> There's newer packages, but the deb asks for libicu38 16:43:01 <planetmaker> yes, that's right afaik. 16:43:19 <planetmaker> versions can make a difference and with openttd, afaik, they do ;-) 16:43:22 <Katt> But as far as I know, that would not conjure my 'problem'. 16:43:36 <planetmaker> agreed. 16:44:20 <Katt> Btw, another question while I'm at it, doesn't the ECS-vectors work with 0.7.2? 16:44:24 <Katt> Or is it just me? 16:44:32 <planetmaker> it does. But maybe not old ones 16:46:18 <Katt> Okey. Hmm. Problem kinda fixed. 16:46:32 <Katt> I logged in/out and now it works. 16:48:13 <Katt> Anyway, where's the newest versions of the ECS-vectors? The ones you can download from ingame did not seem to work for me right now. 16:48:54 <glx_> they are enbaled too ? 16:48:58 <glx_> *enabled 16:49:29 <Katt> Yes 16:49:36 <Katt> I guess they are. Other newgrfs work. 16:49:42 <planetmaker> Katt, iname you should only be able to download those which work 16:49:54 <planetmaker> if not, the author marked them wrongly ;-) 16:50:18 <Katt> The basic vector is version Beta 5 from 28. of June 2009 16:50:32 <Katt> The one from the official download ingame 16:50:57 <fjb> What is wrong with this: svn co -r 17268 svn://svn.openttd.org/trunk OpenTTD-r17268 16:51:15 <fjb> I'm only gitting a driectory called media. 16:51:19 <fjb> getting 16:52:30 <planetmaker> looks correct to me, jfb 16:53:15 <planetmaker> and also works for me 16:54:07 <fjb> I just tried it with 3 diffrent svn clients. 16:54:45 <fjb> I alsways get: 16:54:48 <fjb> A OpenTTD-r17268cadist/media/openttd.32.png 16:54:58 <fjb> And some more of that kind. 16:55:49 <Katt> I got everything, it seems. 16:56:10 <Katt> OH 16:56:14 *** Chruker [~no@port113.ds1-vj.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 16:56:16 <glx_> fjb: I just typed exactly the same and it works 16:56:37 <glx_> Katt: did you start a new game with them enabled ? 16:56:38 <fjb> That is really strange. 16:57:02 <Katt> glx_: Yes, but I think I just made a little mistake. Stupid me. 16:57:07 <Katt> Only basic vector, no town-vector 16:57:20 <planetmaker> :-D 16:57:35 *** glx_ is now known as glx 16:58:38 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 16:58:39 <Katt> Nah, still doesn't work. 16:59:02 <Katt> Or am I doing something wrong? I mean, the industries appear, but I can't transport anything because of missing vagons 16:59:12 *** Doorslammer [Doorslamme@PIPP-p-203-54-229-152.prem.tmns.net.au] has quit [Quit: I'll get you next episode, Inspector Gadget! NEXT EPISODE!] 16:59:26 <planetmaker> Katt, that's a problem with your chosen train set. 16:59:33 <planetmaker> you'll need one which supports ECS vectors 16:59:38 <Katt> Aah 16:59:54 <planetmaker> basically all major train sets do. But default trains won't. 16:59:56 <Katt> Should say so in the wiki. Or anywhere for that matter. :P 17:00:11 <planetmaker> Katt, doesn't the ECS do-not-readme tell you? 17:00:11 <Katt> I must be the only one who prefer the default trains. 17:00:33 <planetmaker> oh, they can be nice. 17:00:40 <Rubidium> then use original engines, new cargos or whatever it's called exactly 17:00:47 <planetmaker> there's *somewhere* a newgrf called old wagons, new cargos... 17:00:49 <Katt> planetmaker: Since no wiki or anything else told that you need a custom train-set, and considering that's seem slike a pretty crucial point, it never occured to me. :< 17:01:05 <planetmaker> Katt, the readme of the ECS vectors. Not the wiki ;-) 17:01:23 <Ammler> fjb: else try svn co <url>@rev 17:01:29 <planetmaker> But, when downloading, it's inside the downloaded tar... so... one will not see it by default :-) 17:02:09 <fjb> I'm suspecting a broken subversion installation. 17:02:11 <planetmaker> And, Katt it's a Wiki :-) 17:02:19 <planetmaker> Maybe you care to add this information :-) 17:02:43 <planetmaker> It's difficult to add something which one knows about and doesn't think about anymore as it's taken for granted. 17:02:47 <Katt> I will when it works. :P Using the old wagons, new cargo newgrf now, still no way to haul the new cargo. 17:02:53 <Katt> Ah 17:02:56 <Katt> Refittable 17:03:00 <planetmaker> :-) 17:03:02 <Rubidium> planetmaker: poor people using a file browser that can't handle tars natively 17:03:03 <Katt> Well then, seems like it works 17:03:18 *** green-devil [Lisby@d40a9a89.rev.stofanet.dk] has joined #openttd 17:03:22 <planetmaker> Rubidium, I guess default win doesn't? 17:03:22 *** green-devil [Lisby@d40a9a89.rev.stofanet.dk] has left #openttd [] 17:03:42 <Katt> Nah, windows doesn't. But "every" windowsuser should have winrar. 17:03:56 <Ammler> pm, that is why we include the readme for opengfx twice. 17:03:57 <planetmaker> I said tar. Not rar 17:04:08 <planetmaker> and actually I despise rar. 17:04:13 <planetmaker> Proprietary crap 17:04:40 <Ammler> what's osx? 17:04:48 <planetmaker> I recommend total commander for windows :-) 17:04:56 <planetmaker> Ammler, hu? 17:04:57 *** Zuu [~Zuu@c-27f8e253.025-58-6e6b702.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 17:05:42 <Ammler> nvm, no idea actually :-) 17:06:03 *** KritiK [~Maxim@93-80-0-175.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 17:06:05 <glx> <Katt> Nah, windows doesn't. But "every" windowsuser should have winrar. <-- better use 7zip 17:06:08 <glx> it's free 17:06:25 <Katt> Yes, but does 7zip support shellextensions? 17:06:41 <glx> like right click menu ? 17:06:45 <Katt> Yes 17:06:51 <Ammler> yes, it does. 17:06:52 <glx> of course :) 17:06:53 <Katt> Ah. 17:07:05 <Katt> Long time since I used 7zip 17:07:13 <planetmaker> Ammler, OSX unpacks the rar with a double click 17:07:21 <planetmaker> transparent usage would be nicer. 17:07:55 <Ammler> planetmaker: whoot, you unpack archives, which are made with proprietary crap? 17:07:57 <Ammler> ;-) 17:08:04 <Katt> I should switch to 7zip then. 17:08:08 <Katt> On my winbox 17:08:13 <planetmaker> Ammler, uh? tar != proprietary, eh? 17:08:32 <planetmaker> oh. s/rar/tar/ 17:08:35 <Ammler> hehe 17:08:36 *** Chris_Booth [~Chris_Boo@client-82-27-236-169.brnt.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #openttd 17:10:03 <planetmaker> Katt, you could use 7zip on any OS basically. I possess no OS where it doesn't work. 17:10:23 <planetmaker> or wouldn't. 17:10:23 <Prof_Frink> 7zip's now part of our standard windows install at work 17:10:26 <Rubidium> oh... I do :) 17:10:37 <planetmaker> Rubidium, really? Which one? 17:10:42 <Katt> Can't say I've been using 7z soo much. Yet I know it's better than rar. 17:10:43 * Rubidium points at whatever OS is running on his phone 17:10:48 <planetmaker> :-) 17:11:01 <Katt> Well, might stop raring files and using 7zip. Mostely those who unrar got winrar which handles 7zip 17:11:26 <planetmaker> rar is annoying. It's nowhere available as default. 17:11:55 <planetmaker> using 7z's own (but better compressing) format isn't unzip-able by default either. But it handles zip, too. 17:12:00 <planetmaker> And then anyone can use it. 17:12:36 *** Pikka [PikkaBird@58.173.248.50] has quit [] 17:17:42 <Katt> Hmm. Another question. What does exactly the newgrf for bigger depots do? 17:19:21 <Belugas> it's an attemps to make depots look more EARISLCIT by allowing them to be coupled 17:19:55 <Belugas> stupidity of lare world freaks, if you ask me 17:20:14 <Xaroth> EARISLCIT o_O 17:20:41 <Katt> Ah 17:20:43 <Katt> See it now 17:20:57 *** [wito] [~wito@25.244.251.212.customer.cdi.no] has joined #openttd 17:22:34 <DaleStan> Well, I got "Ear is", but what is "lcit"? :p 17:22:57 <Belugas> hehehe 17:23:35 <Rubidium> DaleStan: it's a sea port in Thailand 17:23:39 * Belugas enjoys it :D 17:23:51 *** Pikka [PikkaBird@58.173.248.50] has joined #openttd 17:24:16 <Belugas> hint: just one word 17:24:21 <Belugas> one that I hate 17:24:24 <Belugas> when applied to the game 17:24:32 <Rubidium> lesdyxia? 17:24:34 <Belugas> well.. that is not a hint anymore :S 17:24:40 <Belugas> it's a spoiler! 17:24:50 <Belugas> Rubidium, i'm not alain :D 17:25:18 <Pikka> if it's not totally unrealistic, Belugas doesn't like it! \o/ 17:25:32 <Belugas> YEAH! 17:25:38 <Belugas> well... not entirely... but... 17:27:34 *** williham [~wito@25.244.251.212.customer.cdi.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:31:43 *** cipi97 [~cipik97@92.84.110.12] has joined #openttd 17:32:45 *** Phoenix_the_II [ralph@home.deboom.biz] has joined #openttd 17:36:42 <Belugas> but i do agree i like games where i'm far off from realism, like Myst, Exile, Return to Mysterious Island and such 17:37:23 <Katt> Myst was soo good back in the old days. 17:37:29 <Belugas> also, I have a profound taste for sci-fi, vampires, spirits and such books/movies/series 17:37:36 <Belugas> let me evade from real workld! 17:38:19 <Prof_Frink> I went to the real world once. It's shit. 17:38:49 <Belugas> dans mes bras! 17:40:48 <Belugas> Express2a 17:40:54 <Belugas> ooops 17:43:07 <Dreamxtreme> hey frink 17:43:22 <Prof_Frink> Uh oh 17:43:24 <Dreamxtreme> did you see Wimbourne on the new map update 17:43:35 <z-MaTRiX> reloaded 17:43:40 <Prof_Frink> Where's Wimbourne? 17:44:17 <Dreamxtreme> Wimbourne Minster 17:44:20 <fjb> Is FIRS already playable? 17:44:29 <Dreamxtreme> FIRS ? 17:45:21 <Prof_Frink> Dreamxtreme: no u. 17:45:39 <Dreamxtreme> lol yep well i made it 17:45:42 *** oskari89 [oskari89@212-149-207-211.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 17:45:46 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: translators * r17383 /trunk/src/lang/ (5 files): 17:45:46 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 17:45:46 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: german - 2 changes by Roujin 17:45:46 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: indonesian - 2 changes by prof 17:45:46 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: italian - 2 changes by lorenzodv 17:45:48 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: latvian - 46 changes by dzhins 17:45:48 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: serbian - 10 changes by etran 17:46:14 <Prof_Frink> Dreamxtreme: It's Wimborne, not Wimbourne. 17:46:46 <Dreamxtreme> uh o 17:46:49 <Dreamxtreme> let me check 17:48:31 <Dreamxtreme> ah good 17:48:37 <Dreamxtreme> spelled it right 17:50:05 *** OwenS [~oshepherd@cpc1-stkn13-0-0-cust18.midd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 17:50:32 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host214-232-dynamic.4-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 17:50:36 <Wolf01> hello :D 17:51:17 *** Zahl_ [~Zahl@g227081098.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 17:52:39 <TrueBrain> sigh, reddog just digged a 1 year old topic ...... 17:52:50 <Dreamxtreme> uh 17:52:52 <Dreamxtreme> o 17:53:50 <fjb> Digg him. 17:54:31 <Wolf01> bury him 17:54:52 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r17384 /trunk/src/ (order_cmd.cpp order_gui.cpp): 17:54:52 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Fix [FS#2859]: remove all order window state changes out of the drawing routine 17:54:52 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: and call them immediately when changes happen instead of on the next OnPaint. 17:54:52 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: This prevents pressing buttons when they should've been already disabled. 17:55:33 *** oskari89 [oskari89@212-149-207-211.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Quit: Utm Aœ - Aja 35] 17:57:14 *** Chris_Booth [~Chris_Boo@client-82-27-236-169.brnt.adsl.virgin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:58:33 <Belugas> hey... a Wolf01! 17:58:33 *** Zahl [~Zahl@f051152006.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:58:33 *** Zahl_ is now known as Zahl 17:58:38 <Belugas> hello Wolf01 17:58:50 <Wolf01> hello Belugas :D 18:00:28 <TrueBrain> and he sent me a PM ratting out other users .. a real team player, I see :( 18:00:29 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 18:02:45 <cipi97> Hello 18:03:01 <Alberth> hello 18:03:19 <cipi97> How to instal NewGraphics for openttd? 18:03:36 <Alberth> NewGraphics? 18:04:18 <cipi97> Yas 18:04:20 <cipi97> Yes 18:04:32 <Belugas> it's a new feature? 18:04:34 <cipi97> http://wiki.openttd.org/GUI_(New_Graphics) 18:04:43 <Alberth> You mean NewGRF perhaps? 18:04:57 <cipi97> No 18:05:12 <Alberth> OpenGFX? OpenSFX ? 18:05:16 <cipi97> Lok at this an you will understand : http://wiki.openttd.org/GUI_(New_Graphics) 18:05:32 <cipi97> And is about OPEN GFX 18:05:59 <TrueBrain> there are wiki pages created by users which whould want a feature, but which isn't there. That happens. 18:05:59 <cipi97> Sorry for my enghlish, but i am romanian 18:06:45 <Belugas> cipi97, look around : http://wiki.openttd.org/Graphics_Development 18:06:55 <cipi97> TrueBrain : You don't understand 18:07:16 <Alberth> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=35794&hilit=extra+zoom+level is about additional zoom levels, where the wiki page seems to be part of 18:07:44 <Xaroth> cipi97: TrueBrain knows more than you think ;) 18:08:05 <cipi97> But i'm not reffer at that thing 18:08:09 <TrueBrain> knowing doesn't mean understanding though :p But I guess in this case it is cipi97 which doesn't understand :) But he has enough to read for now :p 18:08:22 <z-MaTRiX> hi;> 18:08:31 <TrueBrain> LOL! (a valid lol Dreamxtreme). You give us a link, but you do not refer to that thing .. COOL! 18:09:19 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:09:23 <cipi97> Can anybody help me 18:09:28 <cipi97> ? 18:10:13 <TrueBrain> cipi97: 2 people gave you links to read, 1 other tried to help you .. I think we ran out of ideas to help you 18:10:34 <Alberth> cipi97: afaik extra zoom levels (where your wiki page is part of) is not part of 'official' OpenTTD. It is made by a group of users. How and what of this extension is most likely in the link I gave you. 18:10:52 <cipi97> Alberth i am do not reffer at zoom 18:11:00 <Belugas> at what then? 18:11:16 <Belugas> please, be VERY precise 18:11:16 <cipi97> And this is avaiable for Belugas, too 18:11:37 <Alberth> cipi97: You read the first line at the wiki? "Back to the 32bpp_graphics_development_tracker_(extra_zoom)'" 18:11:38 <cipi97> I want to install new graphic pack for openTTD 18:12:05 <Belugas> graphics pack are named (new)grfs 18:12:09 <cipi97> Alberth i am do not reffer at zoom, do you understand? 18:12:13 <Belugas> there are tons of them out there 18:12:26 <Belugas> if you have seen one that you like, it's easy to do 18:12:27 <Katt> cipi97: Then download the specific graphic pack (newgrf) and put the file in your data-folder or .openttd/data/ if you use linux. 18:12:34 <cipi97> I am reffer at this: http://wiki.openttd.org/GUI_(New_Graphics) 18:12:43 <Alberth> cipi97: maybe not, but the graphics you refer to, are part of it, whether you like it or not. 18:12:57 <Katt> Then when you start up the game, press newGRF-settings, press add and you will see the file. Add it, then start the game. 18:13:08 <cipi97> And i am reffer at OPEN GFX 18:13:38 <TrueBrain> dejavu .. yesterday all over again :p 18:13:39 <cipi97> I downloaded form online resources 18:13:54 <Belugas> so if you have them, it's time to load them 18:13:59 <Katt> cipi97: It's still a newgrf 18:14:02 <Katt> Add it to the folder 18:14:02 <cipi97> Graphic Base | Open GFX 18:14:11 <Katt> But you activate it in game options 18:14:21 <Katt> Game options -> base graphics set 18:14:27 <TrueBrain> cipi97: not all wiki pages show you something you can do. It happens. 18:15:14 <Belugas> http://wiki.openttd.org/NewGRF_FAQ 18:15:25 <Katt> I think I understand what he wants 18:15:32 <Katt> There's this own grf galled NewGraphics 18:15:36 <Belugas> illuminate us, please 18:15:45 <Katt> Which is open-licenced alternatives to the original ttd-graphics 18:16:04 <Belugas> isn't that OpenGFX? 18:16:09 <Katt> Yes 18:16:19 <cipi97> Thanks very mach Katt :D 18:16:23 <cipi97> Rezolved 18:16:35 <Katt> Great 18:16:53 <Katt> Tried them out once myself, but they don't have the same retro-feel like the classical ttd-graphics does. 18:17:23 <Belugas> toum te doum 18:17:23 <TrueBrain> omg .... 18:17:25 <TrueBrain> lol 18:17:27 <TrueBrain> Katt: I am glad you are here :p 18:18:35 <cipi97> And one question: How to play the music 18:18:37 <cipi97> ? 18:18:54 <cipi97> I serched on wiki but i didn't find 18:19:07 <Katt> cipi97: Are you on windows or linux? 18:19:09 <Belugas> do you have the files? 18:19:24 <Katt> You have to have the original gamemusic, and if you're on linux, you need timidity and freepats 18:20:52 <Katt> And I'm off to dinner 18:22:22 <Belugas> NOOOO!!!! WE strill need you!!!! 18:22:29 <Belugas> -r 18:23:15 <cipi97> I have the original music 18:23:27 <cipi97> And I have too Windows XP 18:24:06 <cipi97> Belugas: What files do you kind? 18:27:56 <frosch123> ccfreak2k: http://vcs.openttd.org/svn/browser/trunk/readme.txt#L187 18:28:18 <frosch123> cipi97 actually 18:28:46 <Eddi|zuHause> cipi97: a) in the jukebox, press "play", b) the original music files must be from the windows version of TTD, the dos version files can't be deciphered, and they must be in the correct folder 18:30:03 <cipi97> I press play, but nothing is hpens 18:30:06 <cipi97> *hapens 18:30:13 <Eddi|zuHause> what kind of "nothing"? 18:31:28 <cipi97> It isn't playing the music 18:32:01 <Belugas> it stays withouth moving? it scrolls the list of available songs? 18:32:10 <Belugas> or 18:32:15 <Belugas> there is no sounds? 18:32:21 <Belugas> do you have game sounds? 18:32:50 <cipi97> Yes 18:32:55 <cipi97> I have sound 18:33:08 <Dreamxtreme> [19:08] <TrueBrain> LOL! (a valid lol Dreamxtreme). You give us a link, but you do not refer to that thing .. COOL! hmm 18:33:12 <Dreamxtreme> ok 18:33:24 <Xaroth> wait, Dreamxtreme is from the lolpolice? 18:33:39 <Dreamxtreme> im not the lolpolice 18:33:53 <Eddi|zuHause> no, he is going cold turkey 18:34:10 <cipi97> Can you answer at my question? 18:34:13 <Dreamxtreme> but i didnt think we could even do valid 1's 18:34:39 <Prof_Frink> Plolice? 18:35:02 <Dreamxtreme> o dear 18:35:34 <Eddi|zuHause> cool... my music actually works... i have not tried in years 18:35:47 <cipi97> O. 18:36:01 <cipi97> I make a big mistake 18:36:22 <Xaroth> you had the volume slider down to 0? 18:36:24 <cipi97> I haven't the game music files 18:36:25 <Eddi|zuHause> cipi97: does it skip through the titles? 18:36:32 <cipi97> :( 18:36:43 <Katt> They're easy to get 18:36:53 <cipi97> Yes? 18:36:58 <cipi97> From where? 18:37:12 <Katt> Ops, is it ok if I link to them? 18:37:20 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B9D1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:37:21 <Katt> Don't know what your stand on such things are 18:37:28 <Katt> Considering that ttd is considered abandonware 18:37:35 <Xaroth> there's no such thing as abandonware 18:37:50 <Xaroth> abandonware is a myth. 18:37:57 <cipi97> Can you give me the gm? 18:37:58 <Prof_Frink> Katt: What, all 3407 of them? 18:38:09 <Rubidium> Katt: so if I leave a painting hanging for 15 years it's okay to take it? 18:38:30 <Katt> Hey, I was just asking. =) 18:39:05 *** oskari89 [oskari89@212-149-207-211.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 18:39:08 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.238] has quit [Quit: On snow, everyone can follow your traces] 18:39:09 * Alberth wonders about buildings that owner leave standing for 20+ years :p 18:39:15 <Rubidium> abandonware is just a name people slap on stuff to download it without hurting their conscience 18:39:24 <Katt> Rubidium: And yay for that. 18:39:37 <Katt> Or else it would be a torrent of pain to aquire the original ttd-files. 18:40:06 <tokai|mdlx> what has that to do with http vs. bittorrent? 18:40:22 <Xaroth> tbqfh, getting the original TTD files is piss easy if you know where to look 18:40:57 <Katt> Or any other classic games publishers don't care much about anymore. 18:41:39 <Katt> Hence the term abandonware. Stuff they put up on the net untill the intellectual owners complain about it. 18:41:53 <Katt> It's one of the many grayzones of the internet 18:41:54 <Xaroth> not really 18:42:18 <Xaroth> as Rubidium said, people call it abandonware to soothe their conscience 18:42:22 <Katt> Xaroth: The abandon-site I prefer to use respect when property-owners ask them to remove the files. 18:42:24 *** George [~George@212.113.107.216] has joined #openttd 18:42:47 <Xaroth> they shouldn't be posted to begin with :P 18:42:57 <Xaroth> it's like shooting people until somebody tells you to stop 18:43:24 <Katt> Xaroth: I think they should be posted. It promotes good games that would be forgotten otherwise. 18:43:45 <Katt> Important entries in the history of game evolution. 18:44:24 <Xaroth> now -you- are trying to soothe your conscience :P 18:44:30 <Katt> Not at all. :P 18:44:44 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.238] has joined #openttd 18:44:45 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas] by ChanServ 18:44:45 <Katt> Compared to the other stuff I do, abandonware is among the nicest. 18:45:28 * cipi97 has 25,000,000 pounds in 2031 in openTTD. 18:45:46 <OwenS> Hmm... A random question.... does OpenTTD work on Solaris? :p 18:45:55 <cipi97> Yes 18:45:55 <Katt> It's open source. 18:45:55 * OwenS checks for prebuilt binaries 18:45:58 <cipi97> It works 18:46:03 <Xaroth> cipi97: 25 million pounds? 18:46:10 <OwenS> Katt: Open source doesn't always means works :p 18:46:13 <Katt> If there's no prebuilt binaries you can build yourself. 18:46:15 <Ammler> cipi97: transfer it, before it got lost. 18:46:16 <cipi97> Xaroth: Yes :0 18:46:25 <Xaroth> cipi97: as yearly income I take it? 18:46:30 <cipi97> Where i must transfer? 18:46:37 <OwenS> Katt: Not always. Ever tried building Deluge for Solaris? ;-) 18:46:46 <Katt> Nope, don't run solaris :p 18:46:53 <Ammler> cipi97: to your bank account, of course. 18:46:56 <cipi97> I has start the game in 1980 18:47:08 <cipi97> Where is my bank account? 18:47:14 <Xaroth> 50 years for 25 million 'total' or 'yearly income' ? 18:47:30 <Ammler> hmm, nvm. 18:47:32 <cipi97> Total 18:47:42 <cipi97> In the year 2031 18:47:47 <Rubidium> OwenS: there's a reasonably good chance it works on Solaris 18:47:47 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-76-109-50-97.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 18:47:52 <cipi97> Where is my bank account? 18:47:53 <Prof_Frink> cipi97: I had an old TTDPatch game. It was slightly confused. 18:48:03 <OwenS> Rubidium: I'd guess so since it's SDL based, and SDL works perfectly :p 18:48:05 <Nite_Owl> Hello all 18:48:14 <Alberth> hello Nite_Owl 18:48:20 <Xaroth> cipi97: next goal for you, 25 million a year income before 2000 when starting at 1975. 18:48:21 <Prof_Frink> I was making over £2 billion per month, which caused overflows *everywhere* 18:48:24 <Nite_Owl> Hello Alberth 18:49:21 <OwenS> Rubidium: I only really expect trouble either with the network libraries (Quick fix: Just shove in LDFLAGS) and audio (But if using SDL audio thats fine) 18:49:23 <cipi97> Ammler: Where is my bank acount? 18:49:27 *** Azrael- [~azraeluk@cpc4-papw2-0-0-cust778.cmbg.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 18:49:36 <Xaroth> cipi97: Ammler was joking.. 18:49:43 <Prof_Frink> cipi97: Iceland. 18:49:49 <Xaroth> Ice-save!?!? 18:49:56 <Dreamxtreme> o man 18:50:06 <Dreamxtreme> dont temped me 18:50:16 <Dreamxtreme> aaaaarrrrgh 18:50:17 <Prof_Frink> "Oh cock." 18:50:23 <Dreamxtreme> its driving my nuts 18:50:33 <Rubidium> that's so May 18:55:01 <Rubidium> OwenS: it ought to work more or less out of the box 18:55:24 <OwenS> Rubidium: Agreed =) 18:55:42 <Rubidium> though I don't have solaris to actually test it 18:55:49 * OwenS intends to at some point play an OpenTTDCoop account from his couch 18:56:04 <Rubidium> how ironic it might sound, had trouble installing opensolaris in virtualbox 18:56:11 <OwenS> O_o 18:56:14 <OwenS> I got it installed first time 18:58:28 <Katt> There, edited the wiki. 18:58:53 <OwenS> I must say that forgetting to enable GDM before shutting down the machine and connecting it to the TV (Which can't display 640x400 text mode for some reason) was fun 18:59:17 <OwenS> Command prompt blind FTW :P 19:01:14 <TrueBrain> what was it .. rm -rf? :p 19:01:32 <OwenS> "pfexec svcadm enable gdm" 19:01:41 <TrueBrain> no, it was rm -rf, you might want to try tha tnow :p 19:01:55 <TrueBrain> that enables a VERY cool feature! 19:01:58 <TrueBrain> you would not believe it! 19:01:58 <Katt> remove recursive force 19:02:03 <TrueBrain> Katt: really? 19:02:03 *** Phoenix_the_II [ralph@home.deboom.biz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:02:05 <TrueBrain> hmm .. 19:02:06 <fjb> Oh, many industries with FIRS. 19:02:12 *** Phoenix_the_II [ralph@home.deboom.biz] has joined #openttd 19:02:50 <Eddi|zuHause> * cipi97 has 25,000,000 pounds in 2031 in openTTD. <- i don't think i have ever been to year 2031 in openttd 19:03:00 <OwenS> TrueBrain: You forgot to specify a file :[ 19:03:02 <OwenS> :p 19:03:02 <TrueBrain> I can't remember I was ever in openttd :p 19:03:12 <Katt> rm -rf <file/folder> 19:03:15 <TrueBrain> OwenS: that was not without mistake; I dislike saying things people try, and start blaming me 19:03:16 <Eddi|zuHause> TrueBrain: doesn't mean it did not happen :p 19:03:23 <TrueBrain> Eddi|zuHause: absolutely true 19:03:25 <Katt> Tip: NEVER do # rm -rf / 19:03:36 <TrueBrain> thank you for stating the obvious :p 19:03:41 <OwenS> Katt: On Solaris it's completely harmless :p 19:03:59 <Katt> Oh? How's the system-tree in solaris? 19:04:01 <OwenS> Someone at Sun noticed that shell scripts have an annoying habit of doing that by mistake :p 19:04:15 <Katt> Haha 19:04:24 <OwenS> So rm -rf / will say something like "You probably don't want to do that" 19:04:45 <Katt> I tutored a guy in linux security once and sent him a "miracle"-script with that command and told him to run the script in root 19:04:48 <TrueBrain> but what if you do? :p 19:04:49 <Katt> And he did it 19:04:56 <Katt> Lesson: Don't run random scripts from strangers 19:05:21 <OwenS> TrueBrain: Theres always dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/dsk/c0d0s0 (Assuming your / is c0d0s0) 19:05:31 <TrueBrain> OwenS: that does a TINY bit more :) 19:05:36 <TrueBrain> it also wipes your filesystem 19:05:47 <TrueBrain> (even your bootsector) 19:05:51 <OwenS> TrueBrain: OK, zpool del rootPool && zpool create rootPool c0d0s0 :P 19:05:52 <TrueBrain> so they are not the same 19:05:53 <Katt> Great fun! 19:06:06 <OwenS> TrueBrain: Actually, c0d0s0 doesn't have a boot sector. c0d0 does 19:06:18 <TrueBrain> are you sure? :p 19:06:19 <OwenS> (Solaris has... funky... partitioning) 19:06:23 <TrueBrain> try writing in the first 1024 bytes 19:06:39 <OwenS> TrueBrain: No. I value my ZFS pool :p 19:07:08 <TrueBrain> your problem 19:07:12 <TrueBrain> let me send you a script ... :p 19:07:17 <SmatZ> Permission denied 19:07:25 <SmatZ> now what :-p 19:07:37 <TrueBrain> give me a big hug 19:07:56 * SmatZ hugs TrueBrain 19:08:03 <TrueBrain> :) 19:08:32 <TrueBrain> I am getting insane of all those calls and jumps and rets .... 1% of the cases fuck it up for the other 99% :( 19:10:09 <TrueBrain> lets see if I can get vmware to work on my machine today .. 19:10:31 <TrueBrain> virtualbox has about 70 MiB of RAM overhead per VM :( 19:13:12 <Eddi|zuHause> that's only going to be a problem once you're approaching 20 simultaneous VMs 19:13:26 <TrueBrain> well, I want to start a few 96 MiB VMs 19:13:39 <TrueBrain> which is not really efficient ... 19:13:57 <TrueBrain> gcc failed to compile OpenTTD with only 64 MiB RAM :p 19:14:33 <OwenS> lol 19:15:07 <TrueBrain> (of course I disabled swap) 19:15:54 *** Nite_Owl_ [~Nite_Owl@c-76-109-50-97.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 19:15:55 <Eddi|zuHause> hm... i have good news and bad news 19:16:04 <Eddi|zuHause> the good news is, i completed a full round of tracks 19:16:28 <Eddi|zuHause> the bad news is, the tracks are so bad, the test engine doesn't get to finish a full round 19:17:03 <frosch123> does not sound like ttd 19:17:26 <Eddi|zuHause> it hasn't sounded like ttd in weeks... 19:17:33 <Eddi|zuHause> NOW you're noticing? 19:17:38 <OwenS> lool 19:18:14 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-76-109-50-97.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:18:17 *** Nite_Owl_ is now known as Nite_Owl 19:18:25 <frosch123> you shall not have other games next to ttd 19:18:40 <TrueBrain> Eddi|zuHause: no, now he is paying attention :p :p :p 19:19:09 <Eddi|zuHause> it's not a game. 19:19:28 <Eddi|zuHause> it's an actual real model train 19:19:35 <SmatZ> broken 19:19:40 <TrueBrain> vmware still doesn't work on recent kernels 19:19:41 <TrueBrain> bah 19:19:45 <SmatZ> :( 19:21:28 <TrueBrain> http://bugs.gentoo.org/attachment.cgi?id=199335 <- just reading the patch gives me the creeps ... 19:21:57 <TrueBrain> it removes things .. which really can't be good thing to remove 19:22:41 <Xaroth> oh boy :P 19:27:33 <Katt> Oh my 19:27:36 <Katt> Why is mpd so retarded 19:27:58 <Katt> By default it tags to the first sound-channel in alsa 19:28:23 <_ln> linux doesn't support sounds yet. 19:30:27 <Katt> Then it must be sorcery coming out of those two wizard-boxes on each side of my photoredirected magical window. 19:30:55 <TrueBrain> +12 for Katt 19:31:58 <Katt> For somewhat reason, a couple of tiny tiny Imogen Heaps and two entire orchestra of futuristic music is contained in these two magical boxes. 19:33:33 <TrueBrain> ah, unmasking all vmware software does make it compile :) 19:39:51 *** Aankhen`` [~foo@122.162.167.218] has quit [] 19:40:15 *** cipi97 [~cipik97@92.84.110.12] has left #openttd [] 19:41:10 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 19:44:54 <TrueBrain> bah, vmware-player is just not good enough 19:45:39 <SmatZ> bochs? xen? virtualbox? 19:45:51 <TrueBrain> I meant more: I need vmware-workstation :p 19:46:05 <TrueBrain> and bochs is silly, xen requires a lot more, and virtualbox can't do OSX :p 19:46:19 <Chruker> When logging in to the bugs site I get: "As of 22/09/09 OpenTTD..." has or hasnt that happened? 19:46:35 <TrueBrain> typo I guess 19:48:02 <Chruker> so 22. august ? 19:48:20 <TrueBrain> you can safely assume it was in the past, yes 19:48:20 <_ln> september 9 1922? 19:49:40 <SmatZ> ISO format ftw 19:49:54 <Chruker> This page is not yet done, but will be in the very near feature. 19:50:01 <Chruker> ^ slacker 19:50:33 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@p5B2B39BF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:52:46 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@p5B2B3041.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 19:55:47 *** Pikka [PikkaBird@58.173.248.50] has quit [] 19:57:36 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: alberth * r17385 /trunk/src/news_gui.cpp: -Codechange: Removed some unneeded parentheses. 19:58:16 <glx> TrueBrain: I use vmware-server :) 20:00:08 <_ln> vmware server 2.x sucks, 1.x is great. 20:00:27 <TrueBrain> what is all that noise the whole day ... starts to be a bit annoying 20:00:36 *** bb10_ [~nn@dhcp-077-248-075-030.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 20:00:39 <glx> true, web console is stupid 20:00:53 <glx> but 2.x hardware is better than 1.x 20:01:25 <TrueBrain> glx: vmware-server it is :p 20:02:03 *** bb10 [~nn@dhcp-077-248-075-030.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:04:08 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: yexo * r17386 /trunk/src/ai/api/ai_basestation.cpp: -Fix (r17011): AIBaseStation::IsValidBaseStation() returned false for stations with OWNER_NONE 20:07:46 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AFA093.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 20:11:44 *** tdev [~tdev@p508EC84C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:14:08 <TrueBrain> 450 mb ... could it be any bigger? 20:14:23 <SmatZ> sure 20:14:35 <frosch123> who volunteers for the mb joke? 20:14:46 <TrueBrain> SmatZ: sigh .... :p 20:18:02 <Wolf01> good night 20:18:06 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host214-232-dynamic.4-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 20:18:21 <TrueBrain> glx: can I, euh, borrow your serial for vmware-server? :) 20:18:37 <glx> why? you can get one for free 20:18:47 <TrueBrain> I don't feel like registering :p 20:18:53 <glx> ok :) 20:19:14 <glx> but to download I think you need to register 20:19:22 <TrueBrain> I already have it installed :p 20:19:38 *** Pikka [PikkaBird@58.173.248.50] has joined #openttd 20:20:02 <glx> hmm I didn't write down my linux serial, let me get it 20:20:05 <TrueBrain> oh, I thikn I have an account .. 20:20:33 <TrueBrain> ah, yes, I only have to fill in some stupid questions: 20:20:34 <TrueBrain> Virtualization initiatives? Select all that apply 20:20:38 <TrueBrain> Running multiple operating systems 20:20:40 <TrueBrain> ..... 20:20:41 <TrueBrain> COME ON! 20:21:42 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: alberth * r17387 /trunk/src/news_gui.cpp: -Codechange: Add news-item window description to NewsSubtypeData. 20:21:55 <Chruker> "Virtualization - when paying one license fee isnt enough" 20:21:56 <TrueBrain> k, glx, I have it :) Tnx anyway :) 20:22:07 <glx> you get 2 for 1 ;) 20:22:36 <TrueBrain> I HATE FIREFOX! 20:22:42 <TrueBrain> You have asked Firefox to connect 20:22:44 <TrueBrain> securely to 127.0.0.1:8333, but we can't confirm that your connection is secure. 20:22:47 <TrueBrain> and NO WAY to access it anyway 20:23:13 <Rubidium> well, I wouldn't trust myself either 20:23:17 <glx> use http and 8222 20:23:20 <_ln> yeah, firefox is getting worse all the time. 20:23:32 <TrueBrain> default login .. euh ... 20:23:47 <glx> any user on the system I think 20:23:54 <glx> but it needs to have a password 20:23:56 <_ln> also trying a http connection to a non-standard port is EXTREMELY DANGEROUS. 20:24:10 <TrueBrain> glx: nope 20:24:36 <_ln> you need to configure some roles & stuff through the web thing. 20:24:52 <glx> for that he needs to connect first ;) 20:24:57 <Xaroth> TrueBrain: root user :) 20:25:28 <glx> TrueBrain: you accept dcc ? 20:25:36 <glx> I have vmware server manual 20:25:41 <TrueBrain> glx: pdf? 20:25:43 <TrueBrain> no thank you :p 20:25:44 <glx> yes 20:25:52 <TrueBrain> why can't things just be in a simple format :p 20:26:07 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: alberth * r17388 /trunk/src/widget.cpp: -Codechange: Paint the background of background widgets before painting its children. 20:26:12 * Chruker wonders how many TTD players watch Thomas The Train Engine 20:26:21 <TrueBrain> like after N questions in the configure, I just hold down the enter key 20:26:41 <SmatZ> [22:14:41] <frosch123> who volunteers for the mb joke? <== hehe :) 20:26:56 <Pikka> Chruker: only the first two series are worth watching 20:27:02 <glx> vmware-config.pl as root 20:27:40 <TrueBrain> I guess I did had to enter a value when asking about adding administrators? It could have told me it used system users ... 20:28:10 *** Mega [~Mega@188.90.111.238] has joined #openttd 20:28:21 <TrueBrain> "You do not have permissions to login to the server." 20:28:23 <TrueBrain> :'( 20:28:44 <SmatZ> :() 20:28:53 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: alberth * r17389 /trunk/src/ (widget.cpp widget_type.h): -Codechange: Add support for shaded viewports. 20:29:11 <TrueBrain> if you ened a manual to install software, something is wrong with that software 20:29:22 <Xaroth> TrueBrain: you tried logging in as root? 20:29:27 <Xaroth> vmware likes to do that.. 20:29:34 <TrueBrain> not here 20:29:36 <TrueBrain> not today :'( 20:29:47 <_ln> you'd be happier with vmware server 1.x 20:29:55 <glx> I loggin as Administrateur on my machine (the only account having a password) 20:31:59 <TrueBrain> [2009-09-02 22:31:50.335 'ha-eventmgr' 139770604538192 info] Event 4 : Failed to login user root@127.0.0.1: No permission 20:32:00 <TrueBrain> WHOHO! 20:32:13 *** Mega [~Mega@188.90.111.238] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:32:18 <Xaroth> lmao 20:32:24 <Farden> rofl 20:33:53 <Dreamxtreme> pmsl 20:34:49 <z-MaTRiX> asdf 20:35:01 <TrueBrain> I also have 4 letters in mind 20:35:03 <TrueBrain> anyone care to guess? 20:35:15 <TrueBrain> and Eddi|zuHause can't join 20:35:25 <Dreamxtreme> does it involve F and K 20:35:39 *** Mega [~Mega@188.90.111.238] has joined #openttd 20:36:25 <TrueBrain> RETARTED VMWARE! 20:36:37 <z-MaTRiX> sure 20:37:04 <Dreamxtreme> Another System Definition Facility 20:37:13 <Dreamxtreme> or Association of Synchronous Data Formats, 20:37:36 <Nite_Owl> "How come every time I point to an F you see K ?" - Soupy Sales just before his TV show went dark. 20:38:17 <z-MaTRiX> how about qemu, virtualbox, xen ? 20:38:46 <TrueBrain> whoho, finally, I can get access 20:38:50 <TrueBrain> well, sort of 20:39:05 *** Pikka [PikkaBird@58.173.248.50] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:39:11 *** Pikka [PikkaBird@58.173.248.50] has joined #openttd 20:39:23 <TrueBrain> it says 'loading' 20:39:26 <Farden> tryin to setup a VMWare server TrueBrain? 20:39:52 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: alberth * r17390 /trunk/src/news_gui.cpp: -Codechange: Switch news item windows to nested widgets. 20:40:39 <Zuu> r17356 | rubidium 20:40:39 <Zuu> -Fix: actually implement scrolling for the subsidy list instead of 'just' showing a scroll bar. 20:40:41 <Zuu> :-) 20:41:12 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: alberth * r17391 /trunk/src/ (gfx.cpp gfx_func.h): -Codechange: Add string box calculation routine for multi-line strings. 20:42:59 *** Chris_Booth [~Chris_Boo@client-82-27-236-169.brnt.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #openttd 20:44:48 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: alberth * r17392 /trunk/src/news_gui.cpp: -Codechange: Use 'default' for reacting on click. 20:44:50 <TrueBrain> bah, can't boot from USB device :p 20:46:03 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590ff589.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:46:53 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: alberth * r17393 /trunk/src/news_gui.cpp: -Codechange: Fill small window with widgets. 20:47:02 <Belugas> night 20:47:09 <TrueBrain> night Belugas :) 20:47:16 <Belugas> and see you tomorrow :) 20:47:22 <Nite_Owl> later Belugas 20:47:26 <Belugas> you too dear(s) 20:47:36 <Alberth> good night 20:49:37 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: alberth * r17394 /trunk/src/ (news_gui.cpp news_type.h): -Codechange: Add news flags for viewport settings. 20:52:10 *** PeterT [~PeterT@c-65-96-203-35.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 20:53:09 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: alberth * r17395 /trunk/src/news_gui.cpp: -Codechange: Fill thin window with widgets. 20:54:41 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: alberth * r17396 /trunk/src/ (news_gui.cpp news_type.h): -Codechange: Add company news window. 20:54:48 <TrueBrain> first crash .. WHOHO! 20:54:58 <SmatZ> gratz 20:55:09 <TrueBrain> it completely failed on accessing my extern USB 20:55:21 *** R0b0t1 [~Enigma@64-136-216-213.dyn.everestkc.net] has joined #openttd 20:55:22 <TrueBrain> the webbased console is REALLY crappy (the realy console .. it is SLOW) 20:56:07 <glx> that's why I use vmware infrastructure client to use the VMs ;) 20:56:08 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: alberth * r17397 /trunk/src/ (engine_gui.cpp news_gui.cpp news_type.h): -Codechange: Add new vehicle news window. 20:56:19 <TrueBrain> which requires windows .... 20:56:39 <glx> ha right :) 20:57:01 <glx> maybe you can use it in a virtual box windows VM ;) 20:57:45 <TrueBrain> hehehehe 20:57:47 <TrueBrain> I considered that 20:57:50 <TrueBrain> but windows eats resources :p 20:59:19 *** Mega [~Mega@188.90.111.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:59:28 *** Farden [jk3farden@lns-bzn-48f-81-56-247-196.adsl.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:59:42 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: alberth * r17398 /trunk/src/ (news_gui.cpp news_type.h): -Codechange: Fill normal news item window with widgets. 21:00:12 <TrueBrain> nice .. a cursor! WHOHO! 21:00:35 <Alberth> it blinks? 21:00:39 <TrueBrain> nope 21:00:42 <TrueBrain> just a cursor 21:00:49 <TrueBrain> clearly VMWare fails to boot from a HD .. 21:00:52 <TrueBrain> at least virtualbox can do that 21:00:57 <TrueBrain> HD = external HD 21:01:14 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@p5B2B3041.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:01:53 *** stuffcorpse [~stuffcorp@121.98.136.241] has joined #openttd 21:02:00 *** nicfer [~Usuario@168.226.105.59] has joined #openttd 21:03:27 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@p5B2B28AA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 21:04:57 *** nicfer [~Usuario@168.226.105.59] has quit [] 21:05:59 *** oskari89 [oskari89@212-149-207-211.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:08:40 *** PeterT [~PeterT@c-65-96-203-35.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:08:58 <glx> check the bios 21:09:57 *** Mega [~Mega@188.89.200.28] has joined #openttd 21:10:07 *** Chris_Booth [~Chris_Boo@client-82-27-236-169.brnt.adsl.virgin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:11:00 <TrueBrain> WHOHO! Another crash! 21:11:07 <TrueBrain> when it tries to access /dev/sg3 21:11:08 <TrueBrain> it freezes up 21:11:14 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 21:12:14 *** Mega [~Mega@188.89.200.28] has left #openttd [] 21:13:58 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-76-109-50-97.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Read You Soon] 21:17:09 *** tux_mark_5 [~kvirc@lan-84-240-29-163.vln.skynet.lt] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:25:29 *** TheMask96 [martijn@greed.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:28:24 <TrueBrain> glx: leo4all boots immediatly here (10.5) 21:28:32 <TrueBrain> dunno if it will want to install :p 21:28:55 <glx> you get the installer? 21:29:28 <glx> what's the CPU? 21:30:18 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-81-109-185-122.hers.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #openttd 21:30:36 <TrueBrain> I have an Intel 21:30:40 <TrueBrain> so that might matter 21:30:43 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:30:46 <TrueBrain> although it shouldn't 21:30:55 <TrueBrain> lets see if I can get it installed 21:31:08 <glx> AMD with AMD-V should work too 21:31:16 *** TheMask96 [martijn@greed.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 21:31:18 <TrueBrain> I don't even have VT-x :p 21:31:54 <glx> maybe I should try to find leo4all then :) 21:32:04 <TrueBrain> it was the first CD I could find :p 21:32:07 <glx> but not now (watching Lost) 21:32:11 <TrueBrain> (in my stack of install disks :p) 21:32:13 <TrueBrain> Lost :s 21:32:15 <TrueBrain> blegh 21:33:09 <Rubidium> yeah... lost cause 21:33:25 <Katt> God damn windows 21:33:30 <Katt> It's even easier to install drivers in linux 21:34:48 <TrueBrain> lol, it has trouble probing /dev/diskN .. 21:34:49 <TrueBrain> how nice :p 21:36:39 <glx> there's no leo4all and version it seems 21:36:44 <glx> *amd 21:36:53 <TrueBrain> I thought it was the most complete version 21:36:59 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-76-109-50-97.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 21:37:04 <TrueBrain> but oaky .. I see the install screen, I see the rainbow, and ... nothing :p 21:37:16 * Rubidium votes for renaming leo4all to leo4allthathavetherighthardwareanddonotwantittorunvirtualised 21:37:22 <glx> blue screen with rainbow ? 21:37:33 <TrueBrain> it is not blue in this version 21:37:53 <glx> but the screen before the installer window I mean 21:38:08 <TrueBrain> I boto with -v 21:38:37 <TrueBrain> k, iDeneb wants to start too .. that I have locally installed 21:38:47 <TrueBrain> (but booting that from my local disk hits some kind of infinite loop :( 21:39:07 <glx> probably because missing VT-x 21:39:16 <TrueBrain> then it would complain some how, not? 21:39:37 <glx> maybe there's a log somewhere :) 21:40:01 <TrueBrain> ah, yes 21:40:03 <TrueBrain> kernel stack fault 21:40:22 <glx> how do you read the log ? 21:40:27 <TrueBrain> in the Events tab 21:40:39 *** bb10_ [~nn@dhcp-077-248-075-030.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:42:01 <TrueBrain> cdrom spindown .. never a good sign :p 21:42:32 <glx> but you still see the spining beach ball 21:42:41 <TrueBrain> not in the iDeneb version 21:42:46 <TrueBrain> there it doesn't do that in this screen :p 21:43:20 <glx> ha right I never managed to get there with iDeneb 21:43:31 <glx> only with iAtkos 21:43:43 <TrueBrain> lovely ... vmware-server is giving me errors 21:44:01 *** Mks [~mks@c83-176-234-98.cust.tele2.se] has joined #openttd 21:45:29 <TrueBrain> but okay .. it sucks I can't get it to boot from my external HD, as they version should be easy to get to work 21:45:36 <TrueBrain> they = that 21:46:00 <TrueBrain> and I can't do that same trick on my local disk .... (or I need to reformat everything :p) 21:47:15 <TrueBrain> when I enable network, iDeneb doesn't go that far :p 21:51:48 <TrueBrain> wow, how big is the driver-cache ... it just botted a LONG way without spinnig up the cd ... 21:51:49 <TrueBrain> aamzing .. 21:52:35 *** Pikka [PikkaBird@58.173.248.50] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:52:47 <R0b0t1> I think it depends on your ram 21:53:08 <TrueBrain> wow, iDeneb now boots till I see the rainbow thingy :p Then .. well .. nothing :p 21:53:10 <TrueBrain> but still :) 21:53:26 <welshdragon> TrueBrain: what is your goal? 21:53:37 <Xaroth> getting it to work? :P 21:53:49 <welshdragon> getting what to work? 21:53:54 <Xaroth> read up? 21:54:00 <TrueBrain> glx: my biggest change: saying it is a 32bit FreeBSD kernel 21:54:11 <Sacro> TrueBrain: can you not use KVM/Qemu? 21:54:20 <glx> well I say it freebsd32 too :) 21:54:26 <TrueBrain> I hav ethis weird feeling of deja-vu ... 21:54:44 <TrueBrain> he, cdrom spinup 21:54:51 <TrueBrain> and spindown ... 21:54:52 <TrueBrain> lol :p 21:54:55 <Xaroth> lol 21:54:58 <glx> but I still get spinning beach ball, and cpu usage droped 21:55:03 *** Azrael- [~azraeluk@cpc4-papw2-0-0-cust778.cmbg.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:55:07 <TrueBrain> (and yes, I messure activity by spin up/down 21:55:12 <glx> meaning it just hange 21:55:14 <glx> d 21:55:20 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B9D1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:55:26 <TrueBrain> glx: installing on my real system gives those moments too 21:55:32 <TrueBrain> sometimes it is just .. doing .. something :p 21:55:41 <TrueBrain> but yes, it does that here too now 21:56:00 <glx> but vmware used to eat a core in continue ;) 21:56:09 <glx> at least it does for tiger 21:56:18 <TrueBrain> if it is waiting for some network activity or what ever 21:56:59 <glx> hmm I set it on host-only 21:57:21 <glx> maybe I should try it bridged 21:58:26 <TrueBrain> it now boots completely without spinning up my cdrom :) Annoying, as now I lost all ways to see if it stilld oes something :p 21:58:31 <Sacro> TrueBrain: well i've got osx86 working with qemu/kvm 21:58:32 *** Exl [~myself@cp1224652-a.roemd1.lb.home.nl] has quit [] 21:58:38 <Sacro> you just need some patches 21:59:30 <TrueBrain> Sacro: I know there are qemu patches, but we need either vbox or vmware 21:59:46 <TrueBrain> the performance of qemu sucks, and of kvm is not much better (yet) 22:00:35 <TrueBrain> k, last try, then I am going to find my bed 22:02:23 <Sacro> i might try an iAtkos 7 vm in a bit 22:03:10 <glx> I should try on my brother machine one day (he have a AMD-V enabled CPU) 22:04:59 <Sacro> yeah 22:05:07 <Sacro> you'll probably need AMD-V 22:05:12 <Sacro> or intel vtx 22:08:45 <Eddi|zuHause> whoa... glx changed colours! 22:09:01 <TrueBrain> you ahve that too? First time he is red for me .. 22:09:02 <Eddi|zuHause> i knew something was weird today 22:09:03 <TrueBrain> he was always in green 22:09:08 <SmatZ> yeah 22:09:18 <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, apparently he joined as glx_ 22:09:19 <SmatZ> what happened? 22:09:21 <TrueBrain> on what does Konversation base the colour of a user? 22:09:30 <Eddi|zuHause> and some clients remember the colour on rename 22:09:45 <SmatZ> does it depend on authorised/op/voice/... ? 22:10:01 <Eddi|zuHause> no, just the name the person originally joined with 22:10:02 <SmatZ> hmm doesn't seem so 22:12:32 <Eddi|zuHause> anyway, for me this should be fixed on my next reconnect ;) 22:13:08 <SmatZ> /kick Eddi|zuHause ? ;) 22:13:21 <Eddi|zuHause> no need... i can wait ;) 22:13:33 *** Dreamxtreme [~chatzilla@93-97-81-59.zone5.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:13:35 <Eddi|zuHause> my disconnect is scheduled for 1:33 22:13:38 *** KritiK_ [~Maxim@93-80-0-175.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 22:13:41 *** Dreamxtreme [~chatzilla@93-97-81-59.zone5.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 22:13:57 *** KritiK [~Maxim@93-80-0-175.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:14:03 <TrueBrain> glx: it indeed appears dead at that point 22:14:04 *** KritiK_ is now known as KritiK 22:14:09 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm in the same timezone as you are ;) 22:14:12 <TrueBrain> which is weird, as all my other install attempts never ever frooze there 22:14:23 <Xaroth> you broke it :P 22:14:39 <TrueBrain> but okay, time to go to bed now (for me anyway) 22:14:43 <TrueBrain> tomorrow I will fiddle some more 22:14:45 <Xaroth> good point 22:24:49 <Eddi|zuHause> and i'm gonna continue cleaning these damn tracks 22:27:21 *** KritiK [~Maxim@93-80-0-175.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:31:48 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:32:40 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-76-109-50-97.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Read You Soon] 22:33:15 *** Chris_Booth [~Chris_Boo@client-82-27-236-169.brnt.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #openttd 22:53:03 *** roboboy [3aad2910@webchat.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 23:10:04 *** Yexo [~Yexo@32-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:11:22 *** Pikka [PikkaBird@58.173.248.50] has joined #openttd 23:11:52 <Pikka> doh 23:18:23 <Eddi|zuHause> good morning to you, too, sir. 23:20:10 <Pikka> thanks 23:20:30 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:20:53 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has joined #openttd 23:32:55 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77C5F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 23:33:14 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77C1E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 23:34:08 *** Yexo [~Yexo@207-64-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has joined #openttd 23:36:59 <Pikka> Yexo-sama 23:37:26 <Yexo> evening Pikka 23:38:01 <Pikka> I think I have a grf... just a couple of things I need help with... the format of the real2 and the 3... 23:38:17 <Pikka> http://users.tt-forums.net/pikka/wiki/index.php?title=Av8ports_testing 23:38:38 <Yexo> the real 2? what should that contain? 23:39:20 <Pikka> the real graphics 23:39:26 <Yexo> -1 * -1 03 0D 01 00 00 88 00 <- that's the action 3 I use in my test grf, where the last 88 00 is the action2 23:39:43 <Pikka> mmkay 23:39:55 <Yexo> no idea if that makes any sense 23:40:05 <Yexo> I just copy/pasted it from somewhere 23:40:09 <Pikka> yeah, I guess so 23:42:11 <Pikka> and the action 2? eh, I guess I'll just use a building-tile-style 2 for now 23:42:29 <Yexo> action 2 for airport tiles? 23:43:05 <Yexo> as per your spec that's the same as action 2 for houses and industry tiles 23:43:11 <Pikka> ah 23:43:15 <Pikka> action 2 for the airport 23:43:28 <Pikka> preview graphic and callback fail 23:43:41 <Pikka> I just made that 2 the same as the tile ones 23:43:55 <Pikka> okay, let me compile this up and update the nfo on the wiki 23:45:18 <Yexo> http://devs.openttd.org/~yexo/renum_data_airports.zip updated to the spec as of now 23:47:06 <Pikka> thanks 23:47:15 <Pikka> there.. grf uploaded 23:47:19 <Pikka> http://www.pikkarail.com/ttdp/secret/test_airport.grf 23:47:26 <Pikka> may or may not work. at all. :) 23:48:05 <Pikka> http://users.tt-forums.net/pikka/wiki/index.php?title=Av8ports_testing has the sprites and commented nfo 23:48:36 <Yexo> I'd be very surprised if it works, as most of the callback handling isn't code yet 23:48:47 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@195-241-124-225.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 23:49:08 <Pikka> well, once it is, still may or may not work. ^^; 23:51:33 <Pikka> btw, z position of nodes... 23:52:19 <Pikka> == height above the airport, limited by the maximum height of the world, right? rather than absolute height? 23:53:04 <Yexo> of course, aboslute height would be nonsense 23:53:56 <Yexo> should it be relative to the height of the nothernmost airport tile or relative the the tile the x/y is on? 23:54:24 <Pikka> eh, the northernmost tile I'd say 23:54:58 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-81-109-185-122.hers.adsl.virgin.net] has quit [Quit: Tsch?ss] 23:57:44 <Belugas> hoooonnn what a shame... 23:58:18 <Belugas> some networks in the US are down and cannot process payment transactions... 23:58:24 <Belugas> and we are not to blame 23:58:30 <Belugas> hoooonnn... what a shame