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00:02:34 <Terkhen> good night 00:02:36 *** Terkhen [~Terkhen@153.69.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Quit: ...] 00:03:47 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: yexo * r17483 /trunk/src/ (aircraft.h aircraft_cmd.cpp saveload/vehicle_sl.cpp): -Fix (r17405): when an aircraft starts flying in circles make it turn in the correct direction first before continuing 00:19:07 *** Dreamxtreme [~chatzilla@93-97-81-59.zone5.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 00:21:41 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77109.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 00:21:59 <Eddi|zuHause> so, that actually freezed my system :p 00:22:54 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 00:23:01 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:43:43 *** Antigon [~Poly@n15-60.dsl.vianetworks.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:48:02 <Eddi|zuHause> i give up 00:48:10 <Eddi|zuHause> i can't get this to work 00:54:30 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x3ef3a198.virnxx14.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:55:01 *** Dred_furst [~Dred@cpc3-pool3-0-0-cust999.sotn.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:57:36 *** [wito] [~wito@25.244.251.212.customer.cdi.no] has joined #openttd 01:04:58 *** williham [~wito@25.244.251.212.customer.cdi.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:05:30 *** Entane [Entane@c0F6A47C1.dhcp.bluecom.no] has quit [] 01:06:15 *** Pikka [PikkaBird@58.173.248.50] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:11:07 *** Choco-Banana-Man [~Stephan.D@p5B2DEBC9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 01:11:15 *** Mks [~mks@c83-176-234-98.cust.tele2.se] has quit [] 01:14:20 *** Pikka [PikkaBird@58.173.248.50] has joined #openttd 01:17:43 *** Coco-Banana-Man [~Stephan.D@p5B2DEB57.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:17:43 *** Choco-Banana-Man is now known as Coco-Banana-Man 01:19:48 *** zachanima [~zach@50A2FFAA.flatrate.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:29:10 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@188.123.106.105] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:30:19 *** Coco-Banana-Man [~Stephan.D@p5B2DEBC9.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Joyful it seems - 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das Wiki rund um's Thema Lager und Logistik] 05:42:08 *** nicfer [~Usuario@168.226.105.58] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:50:11 *** MizardX- [MizardX@h-28-236.A159.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 05:50:11 *** MizardX [MizardX@h-28-236.A159.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:50:41 *** MizardX- is now known as MizardX 06:02:47 *** Azrael- [~azraeluk@cpc4-papw2-0-0-cust778.cmbg.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 06:08:53 *** tosse [tosse@tosse.pp.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:11:35 *** tosse [tosse@tosse.pp.se] has joined #openttd 06:12:46 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 07:03:21 *** Azrael- [~azraeluk@cpc4-papw2-0-0-cust778.cmbg.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:24:26 *** Terkhen [~Terkhen@153.69.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #openttd 07:25:42 <Terkhen> good morning 07:28:34 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77109.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:35:12 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B75359.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 07:39:51 <Eddi|zuHause> so... back to the old kernel 07:40:52 <Eddi|zuHause> someone remind me, when i attempt a dist-upgrade, to neither upgrade the kernel, nor the x-server 07:42:37 <Rubidium> just create a package: do-not-upgrade-x-server-or-kernel-it-will-break and depend on the version of the kernel and xorg you got now. Then install the package 08:04:40 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r17484 /trunk/src/ai/api/squirrel_export.awk: -Fix: squirrel export didn't like one of the casts 08:12:29 <Xaroth> poor Squirrel, getting beaten into submission by Rubidium like that 08:21:59 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@161-18-80-78.strcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has joined #openttd 08:22:32 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r17485 /trunk/src/ (economy.cpp lang/english.txt): -Change [FS2459]: make the performance ratings harder to exploit; only count profitable vehicles and recently serviced stations. 08:33:10 *** Chris_Booth [~Chris_Boo@client-86-27-233-99.popl.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #openttd 08:37:16 <Eddi|zuHause> :o gamebalance! which blasphemy! 08:40:40 <dihedral> NICE :-) 08:45:57 *** fonsinchen [~alve@V9a00.v.pppool.de] has joined #openttd 08:50:18 *** DJNekkid [~tmsmje@77.18.65.46.tmi.telenormobil.no] has joined #openttd 08:50:20 *** Muxy [~Muxy@nt2001.opsio.fr] has joined #openttd 08:50:48 *** KritiK [~Maxim@93-80-17-73.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 08:51:52 *** Muxy [~Muxy@nt2001.opsio.fr] has quit [] 08:56:14 *** z-MaTRiX [~matrix@nude.lesbianbath.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:57:22 <Eddi|zuHause> something is wrong with konsole/kde4 08:57:36 *** Phazorx [~pavelkoll@77.239.254.3] has joined #openttd 08:57:39 <Eddi|zuHause> it eats "shift+tab" before sending it to the running program 08:57:40 <Phazorx> hola 08:57:55 <Rubidium> aloh 08:58:02 <Eddi|zuHause> and i disabled it in shortcuts 08:58:19 <Phazorx> silly question here - can anyone tell me who owns rights for TTDX as far as intelectual property law is concerned 08:58:42 <Phazorx> or is there some tt-f thread with some point on that which is more or less up to date 08:58:57 <Eddi|zuHause> no 08:58:59 <Rubidium> short answer: no, long answer: someone can, but they can't be bothered to figure out who owns it 08:59:01 <Phazorx> hi Rubi, hi Eddi :) 08:59:20 <Phazorx> Rubidium: there was a thread discussing that 08:59:29 <Phazorx> i even recall Owen involved in it 08:59:33 <Phazorx> and some calls made to Chriss 08:59:38 <Eddi|zuHause> it hasn't been discussed in a while 08:59:50 <Phazorx> Eddi yeah i figured that much 08:59:51 <Eddi|zuHause> so that topic is likely still there... 09:00:11 <Eddi|zuHause> it also does not make sense to discuss further, as nothing has changed 09:00:23 <Phazorx> but just for kicks, i'd like to know who is responsible for selling unsupported ancient game on amazaon for 09:00:52 <Eddi|zuHause> and how should we know? 09:01:11 <DJNekkid> are var2 variable 42 somehow available on a vehicle basis? 09:01:39 <Phazorx> Eddi|zuHause: i was under assumption there is some 3rd party company whotook over MP's case 09:02:12 <Rubidium> DJNekkid: done 80+ var maybe? 09:02:40 <DJNekkid> i used 81 ... 09:02:58 <DJNekkid> -1 * 0 02 00 A0 81 42 00 FF 01 09:03:03 <Rubidium> s/done/some/ 09:03:18 <Eddi|zuHause> why is it, whenever i google newgrf stuff, you get all kind of results, just never any link to wiki.ttdpatch.net? 09:03:18 *** amckinley [~amckinley@c-67-164-97-175.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 09:03:36 <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause: robots.txt? 09:03:43 <planetmaker> Eddi|zuHause, not linked sufficiently? 09:03:49 <Eddi|zuHause> it completely sucks 09:03:54 <DJNekkid> probably because there are so few links to the wiki in the beginning with :) 09:03:57 <Rubidium> DJNekkid: please use the proper words for the numbers you're talking about 09:04:31 <Rubidium> e.g. I mean variable 80+x, your 81 is type 09:04:34 <DJNekkid> i thought i did? 09:05:49 <DJNekkid> hmm ... this is wierd 09:06:13 <Rubidium> also use varaction instead of var, cause var mentally evaluates (for at least me, but I reckon lots of others) variable and not varaction (even though the can decypher it) 09:06:14 <DJNekkid> it works _if_ its the first vehicle in a consist 09:06:49 <Yexo> for (u = v; u != NULL; u = u->Next()) { <- it indeed starts at the current vehicle, not at the first vehicle in the consist 09:07:06 <DJNekkid> sry about that ... 09:07:10 <DJNekkid> even tho ... 09:07:26 <DJNekkid> this is a 3 part articulated vehicle. 09:07:28 <Rubidium> If used with variational action 2 type 81 (vehicle) it returns only cargo from this vehicle on, with type 82 (engine) that of the whole consist. 09:08:11 <Rubidium> (source: the specs) 09:08:27 <Rubidium> also vehicle implies a part of a consist; a train consists of multiple vehicles 09:08:52 <Eddi|zuHause> so, should use type 82 (related object == the engine) instead? 09:09:21 <Rubidium> yes, after decyphering and interpreting his other comments that would be the answer 09:10:20 <DJNekkid> Rubidium: i know ... consist = "the whole train", while vehicle = "a wagon/engine" 09:11:04 <Rubidium> but then why use the wrong words for what you actually want? 09:11:51 <DJNekkid> i _do_ use the correct words, as far as i know ... 09:12:07 <DJNekkid> point was, the whole consist change gfx if only a part of it change cargo class 09:12:47 <DJNekkid> hence the "is that available on a vehicle basis" 09:14:01 *** Phazorx [~pavelkoll@77.239.254.3] has left #openttd [] 09:14:20 <DJNekkid> but only apparently the ones in front of the given vehicle... 09:14:32 <DJNekkid> hmm 09:15:04 <Yexo> DJNekkid: maybe var 47 is what you want? 09:15:32 <DJNekkid> sure looks that way... why didnt i see that? 09:16:35 <Rubidium> but then how can it work only correctly with the first vehicle, which is basically type 82 instead of type 81 for variable 42? 09:16:57 <DJNekkid> i have absolutely no idea... 09:17:02 <DJNekkid> but 47 worked as intended :) 09:28:37 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1C0BA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 09:32:42 *** bb10 [~nn@dhcp-077-248-075-030.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 09:46:20 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r17486 /trunk/src/ai/ (5 files in 2 dirs): -Add [NoAI]: a vehicle list for all vehicle that are ordered to a specific depot 09:53:31 *** DJGummikuh [~joey@ip3057.saw.RWTH-Aachen.DE] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:54:43 *** Aankhen`` [~foo@122.162.154.56] has joined #openttd 09:56:00 *** Phoenix_the_II [ralph@home.deboom.biz] has joined #openttd 09:57:10 *** Mega [~Mega@95.98.22.64] has joined #openttd 09:57:41 *** tokai [~tokai@p5B2B0C71.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:59:53 *** tokai [~tokai@p5B2B0D81.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 09:59:56 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 10:02:17 *** Entane [Entane@c0F6A47C1.dhcp.bluecom.no] has joined #openttd 10:06:48 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has joined #openttd 10:06:58 *** PhoenixII [ralph@home.deboom.biz] has joined #openttd 10:07:03 *** PhoenixII [ralph@home.deboom.biz] has quit [] 10:23:07 <TrueBrain> whoho, the first user which complains he can't login to flyspray, and he can't find a link to get his password :p Maybe ... he should first merge his account :) It tells him that very clearly ;) 10:23:09 <TrueBrain> ghehe 10:23:13 <TrueBrain> users ... don't talk me about users 10:28:53 *** aapo [52b58507@webchat.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 10:30:16 <aapo> Hi, I can't toggle console with my keyboard, layout is fi-sv. 10:30:59 <TrueBrain> toggle it via the ?, then Console, or what is it called 10:31:16 <aapo> yes I know 10:31:19 <TrueBrain> and I am sure someone wants to know the scancode your keyboard triggers ;) 10:31:46 <aapo> I know the scancode 10:32:14 <Eddi|zuHause> the keyboard layout is somewhere in the language file 10:32:27 <TrueBrain> Eddi|zuHause: console key too? 10:32:37 <Eddi|zuHause> console key should be the first one in there 10:32:41 <TrueBrain> aapo: windows? 10:32:54 <Eddi|zuHause> could also be dead-key-related 10:33:21 <aapo> linux, key is 167. and layout is SVE/FI 10:33:48 <aapo> http://memak.raydium.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=1927&p=8150&hilit=layout#p8150 10:34:28 <aapo> openttd is not only game using this button to toggle console, and I have had problems before too 10:35:55 <zachanima> Rubidium, a question? 10:36:08 <TrueBrain> zachanima, an answer? 10:36:34 <zachanima> very well 10:37:18 <TrueBrain> aapo: hmm .. it is a bit weird, you know :) 10:38:01 <aapo> TrueBrain, no I do not know. where it is defined? 10:38:28 <TrueBrain> scancode 49 is defined as backquote, which should work for any system :) Well .. my knowledge is short here 10:38:35 <zachanima> TrueBrain, let me get back to you in a bit 10:38:46 <TrueBrain> http://bugs.openttd.org, create a report, explain your problem, your OS, your keyboard layout, your scancode :) 10:41:08 *** Mega [~Mega@95.98.22.64] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:41:36 <TrueBrain> aapo: if you did that, I am sure one of our excellent developers will reply to you in no-time :) Hehe :) 10:42:33 <Rubidium> why must there always be keyboards that break the fun for the rest of us? 10:42:54 <TrueBrain> Rubidium: I agree .. and I miss why it happens in this case :p 10:43:04 <TrueBrain> aapo: don't forget to mention your video-driver btw :) (SDL or Allegro) 10:44:11 <planetmaker> aapo, and the key left of "1" doesn't do the trick? 10:45:17 <TrueBrain> planetmaker: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:KB_Sweden.svg 10:45:52 <planetmaker> :-) 10:46:13 <planetmaker> so it should be ? or 1/2 10:46:32 <zachanima> TrueBrain, now, for that question 10:46:42 <zachanima> is STR_ERROR by any chance deprecated? 10:46:43 <planetmaker> zachanima, ask. not say you gonna ask. 10:46:50 <zachanima> uhm, sorry, STR_EMPTY 10:46:51 <zachanima> my bad 10:47:10 <Eddi|zuHause> why would that be deprecated? 10:47:12 <Yexo> zachanima: why would it be? It's still used in a lot of places 10:47:25 <TrueBrain> zachanima: my point was not to ask Rubidium, or me, but just to ask. 10:47:33 <zachanima> well, GetStringHeight does not play well with it 10:47:38 <planetmaker> but the answer was given :-) 10:48:00 <zachanima> or rather - GetStringHeight calls FormatStringLinebreaks with maxw = 0 if STR_EMPTY is used 10:48:24 <zachanima> and FormatStringLinebreaks has assert(maxw > 0) 10:48:29 <Eddi|zuHause> so, why not ask that immediately? 10:48:41 <planetmaker> well. Displaying an empty string is... pointless anyway, is it? 10:48:44 <zachanima> because it would be redundant if STR_EMPTY was deprecated anyway 10:48:54 <planetmaker> But yeah. Pointing that out immediately would make clear where we go. 10:49:09 <Yexo> zachanima: GetStringHeight has a maxw parameter for a reason, so use it 10:49:18 <zachanima> Yexo, I am 10:49:24 <zachanima> http://vcs.openttd.org/svn/changeset?new=17299%40%2F&old=17298%40%2F 10:49:48 <Eddi|zuHause> planetmaker: it may be used as string parameter and stuff 10:49:49 <zachanima> r17299 introduced a possibility for that assertion to be false, using STR_EMPTY 10:50:10 <zachanima> took me a while to figure that out 10:50:28 <planetmaker> make a bug report about that :-) 10:51:19 <zachanima> well, I wouldn't make a bug report if I didn't know whether it should be changed in GetStringHeight (with an assert or just max(maxw, 1)) ... hurr 10:51:54 <Yexo> why not? just could just make a bug report reporitng the problem and listing the solution you currently see, if any 10:52:02 <zachanima> suppose so, yeah 10:52:03 <planetmaker> :-) 10:52:06 <zachanima> and that I will do 10:52:24 <zachanima> there isn't really a savegame though. And it can't be reproduced unless you introduce STR_EMPTY somewhere it fails - like a tooltip 10:52:30 <planetmaker> a sound analysis always helps :-) 10:52:33 <zachanima> ^^ 10:52:49 <planetmaker> that doesn't matter for these kind of cases. Just describe where and how it matters. 10:53:05 <Yexo> so it's only a problem if a tooltip has the string STR_EMPTY? 10:53:25 <planetmaker> so that any person who wasn't here can understand the problem, when it is a problem and - if you feel like - what can be done about it. 10:53:49 <zachanima> well, it's a problem if anything calling GetStringHeight has STR_EMPTY 10:53:56 <zachanima> *calls 10:54:11 <Rubidium> but isn't that pointless anyways? 10:54:26 <planetmaker> I guess half of my bug reports don't have savegames ;-) 10:54:31 <Yexo> zachanima: not exactly true, it's only a problem if the maxw parameter to GetStringHeight is also 0 10:55:06 <zachanima> ah, yes. I suppose any string followed by maxw = 0 would do the deal 10:55:36 <zachanima> maybe so, Rubidium, but I found out while merging cargodist to current trunk. While that might not be relevant, I think the problem being there in the future is 10:56:35 <Rubidium> the problem is trying to draw STR_EMPTY, not GetStringHeight bailing 10:56:53 * Yexo agrees 10:57:20 <Yexo> widgest should have STR_NULL for tooltip if there is no string, and that is never given to GetStringHeight 10:57:37 <aapo> Is there any roadmap of developing? I'm waiting for support of opensfx for official release (I can use svn version, but distributions like releases). Do this happens 0.8.0 or 0.7.something? 10:57:54 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.22.161.174] has joined #openttd 10:58:02 <planetmaker> I heart rumors about 0.8.0 having that 10:58:04 <Yexo> in general all new features will be in the next major version 10:58:26 <Yexo> so opensfx will be useable in 0.8, but not in 0.7.3 10:58:47 <zachanima> Rubidium, so the solution should be to avoid STR_EMPTY, rather than tamper with anything? 10:59:00 <zachanima> seems a bit ... error-prone to me =/ 10:59:29 <Yexo> no, just make sure the widget has at least a width of 1 pixel before drawing in it 10:59:59 <Rubidium> really? Drawing a text 0 pixels wide is good? It isn't, so it ought to error out, not silently ignore the error 11:00:12 <aapo> Yexo, ok. Any ideas when 0.8.0 is coming? 11:00:23 <Yexo> yes, when it's done 11:00:58 <Yexo> seeing the previous releases, most likely 1 year after 0.7.0, so +- 1 april 2010 11:00:59 *** MrN [~otto@p5B2FDEA0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:01:02 <Eddi|zuHause> bets are on april 1st 11:01:31 <zachanima> Rubidium, the problem in cargodist is an empty button where no tooltip would make sense. Why there is an empty button though, I can't say 11:01:40 <zachanima> I suppose this isn't a bug after all, then? 11:01:58 <Yexo> no 11:02:03 *** aapo [52b58507@webchat.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 11:02:10 <Yexo> as I said, if there is no tooltip you should use STR_NULL, not STR_EMPTY 11:02:39 <zachanima> that makes sense 11:03:48 <zachanima> well, that was helpful, thanks 11:04:23 <Eddi|zuHause> you should probably tell that to fonsinchen ;) 11:04:43 <zachanima> I will 11:05:07 *** tux_mark_5 [~kvirc@lan-84-240-29-163.vln.skynet.lt] has joined #openttd 11:05:10 <fonsinchen> Uh, what? 11:05:28 <zachanima> Eddi, actually STR_NULL gives the exact same problem 11:05:55 <Eddi|zuHause> fonsinchen: something with updating cargodist 11:06:01 <Yexo> zachanima: can you copy a few relevant lines to paste.openttd.org? 11:06:09 <Eddi|zuHause> zachanima: i'm not the person you should talk to 11:06:14 <zachanima> fonsinchen, problems with merging cargodist with trunk, courtesy of r17299 11:06:34 <zachanima> Eddi, figures 11:06:37 <zachanima> Yexo, yup, in a bit 11:06:46 <fonsinchen> what kind of problems? 11:07:15 <fonsinchen> I have an empty button somewhere? 11:07:54 <zachanima> fonsinchen, yes, in smallmap_gui 11:08:03 <zachanima> wait a min, I'll paste 11:14:25 *** Coco-Banana-Man [~Stephan.D@p5B2DEF0D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:14:42 *** R0b0t1 [~Enigma@64-136-216-213.dyn.everestkc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:20:09 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF9F4F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 11:21:15 <zachanima> ah, there we go 11:21:17 <zachanima> http://paste.openttd.org/216793 11:23:31 <zachanima> and fonsinchen; http://paste.openttd.org/216795 (ugly beware) 11:23:53 <zachanima> ... and again, with the line in question highlighted; http://paste.openttd.org/216796 11:25:10 <fonsinchen> This STR_EMPTY could be changed into STR_NULL. It doesn't make a difference 11:25:22 <fonsinchen> Thanks for the report. 11:25:23 <zachanima> very true 11:25:26 <zachanima> and you're welcome 11:25:34 <zachanima> STR_NULL will still fail, though 11:26:31 <fonsinchen> I'll have to investigate, then. STR_NULL should work, as it works for the other widgets. 11:26:55 <zachanima> well, maybe I just did it wrong. But I changed STR_EMPTY to STR_NULL, compiled, and got the exact same error 11:27:52 <zachanima> supposedly because GetStringBoundingBox doesn't like being called with any sort of emptiness 11:28:15 <zachanima> or rather, that it will specify a width of 0 - which is quite reasonable, actually 11:30:47 <zachanima> yet with STR_NULL, there still is a tooltip. It's just empty 11:30:55 <zachanima> and not very high 11:31:31 <Yexo> with STR_NULL there shouldn't be a tooltip at all 11:31:44 <Yexo> see GuiShowTooltips, it checks for STR_NULL 11:31:44 <zachanima> let me try it with trunk as well 11:31:53 <Rubidium> might it be that you're only updating one of the two widget definitions? 11:32:10 <zachanima> Rubidium, quite a lot likely, yes. As a matter of fact, that is definitely it 11:32:20 * zachanima is still very new to the code base 11:33:30 <Rubidium> just to join when a big GUI transition is on the roll 11:33:40 <zachanima> finally? 11:34:46 <zachanima> or rather - I heard mention of some deliberately avoided objectification of the GUI 11:35:17 <MrN> is this a development-only channel? 11:35:21 <zachanima> well, what do you know. Changing STR_EMPTY to STR_NULL both places also avoids the maxw = 0 11:35:24 <Rubidium> MrN: no 11:35:32 <zachanima> so thanks for that 11:35:42 <Rubidium> MrN: you just joined when lots of dev related questions are asked 11:36:12 <MrN> i feel slightly overwhelmed by the complex possibilities of building train networks. the wiki has helped me a lot, but there are still so many unanswered questions :) 11:37:01 <zachanima> MrN, there's more here if you're interested; http://openttdcoop.org/wiki/Main_Page 11:38:51 <MrN> you know what would be cool? small "challenges" scenarios where you need to pull some tricks to complete the task, learning how to build train networks in the process :) 11:40:01 <planetmaker> MrN, there are... 11:40:15 <planetmaker> ... though somewhat a bit forgotten and put on hold. 11:40:16 <zachanima> http://openttdcoop.org/2009/05/07/osqc01-finally-finished/ 11:40:19 <planetmaker> ^^ 11:40:28 <zachanima> planetmaker, is that scenario up for grabs anywhere? 11:40:32 <planetmaker> Maybe we should really put forward osqc02 11:40:40 <planetmaker> zachanima, the original? 11:40:43 <zachanima> yes? 11:40:54 <zachanima> planetmaker, I'd be for that 11:40:59 <planetmaker> I'd say yes. Let's look 11:41:04 <zachanima> that reminds me - I ought to join the public server some time 11:41:22 <zachanima> planetmaker, I tried looking around the site, but couldn't find anything but dead links 11:42:57 <planetmaker> yeah. It obviously didn't got moved properly when we changed webserver. 11:43:32 <zachanima> well, I ended up making my own scenario based heavily on it 11:43:40 <zachanima> for cargodist+is2 11:44:07 <planetmaker> well. Such scenario contest would from my side always work with a stable version. 11:44:18 <planetmaker> cargodist + is2 is for freaks and hardcore ;-) 11:44:26 <zachanima> I know =P 11:44:29 <planetmaker> as long as they're not trunk 11:44:32 <zachanima> stable as in proper release? 11:44:35 <planetmaker> yes 11:44:45 <zachanima> that makes sense, yes 11:44:51 <planetmaker> 0.7.2 - biggest user base. 11:45:01 <zachanima> I do not disagree 11:45:04 <planetmaker> Submissions are accepted with anything newer, though, too. 11:45:15 <zachanima> as long as it is in trunk 11:45:16 <planetmaker> I have some more or less recent trunk anyway. 11:45:20 <Rubidium> yes, I disagree too... a TTD savegame has the biggest user base! 11:45:26 <planetmaker> :-D 11:45:38 <planetmaker> Rubidium, but a boring lack of "features" ;-) 11:46:01 <TrueBrain> boring boring ... listening to the alarm of your neighbour for 3 straight hours, that is boring 11:46:27 <planetmaker> zachanima, I can only offer the final savegames right now 11:46:38 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:1167:12c7:cd1a:4dcb] has joined #openttd 11:46:39 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 11:46:39 <zachanima> aww 11:46:46 <zachanima> well, I'll be alright ^^ 11:46:54 <planetmaker> you might try to restart game :-) 11:47:07 <planetmaker> it might give you the original scenario. Not sure, though 11:47:33 <TrueBrain> wow, OSX at 1680x1050 is ... small :) I was used to 1024x768 for a while :) Ghehe :) Yet ... I can't get my second monitor to work :'( 11:48:26 <zachanima> planetmaker, would that work? 11:48:43 <Yexo> no, restart game in a scenerio gives you a random new game 11:49:47 <zachanima> =( 11:50:13 *** Phoenix_the_II [ralph@home.deboom.biz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:50:23 *** Phoenix_the_II [ralph@home.deboom.biz] has joined #openttd 11:52:15 <planetmaker> http://openttdcoop.org/files/pm/openttdcoop-sqc-2008-01.scn <-- zachanima 11:52:26 <planetmaker> original found and moved to an accessible place 11:53:14 <planetmaker> TrueBrain, what "(vm) machine" are you using for your OS right now? 11:53:33 <TrueBrain> local machine 11:53:41 <TrueBrain> VMs don't want to work, for all kinds of weird reasons 11:53:47 <planetmaker> :-O 11:53:53 <planetmaker> So no VM, but a multi-boot? 11:54:00 <TrueBrain> on an external HD, yes :p 11:54:07 <TrueBrain> I can have in total 25 OSX versions on it, so :p 11:54:12 <planetmaker> :-) I now have 10.6 on internal and 10.4 on my external. 11:54:17 <zachanima> planetmaker, awsum thx 11:54:22 <planetmaker> yw, zachanima 11:54:24 <TrueBrain> Virtualbox with 10.6 complains about APIC version .. with 10.5 it can't find my disks back :( 11:54:34 <TrueBrain> planetmaker: I am trying to install 10.4, but it bitches about permission errors on install :s 11:54:54 <planetmaker> hm... 11:55:06 <planetmaker> anything I could possibly do to help you? 11:55:31 <TrueBrain> well, I want to try to login under OSX as root, instead of local user, maybe that fixes it ... 11:55:45 <TrueBrain> if that fails, I might get back to you :) 11:55:47 <planetmaker> hm. 11:56:16 <planetmaker> when I install OS-X, I never get asked for a root pw. But it all works via sudo and the pw I chose for the first user 11:56:30 <TrueBrain> yes, but then the 10.4 installer fucks up 11:56:36 <TrueBrain> and tries to open a file under local rights 11:56:43 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@195-241-124-225.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 11:56:47 <glx> sudo doesn't work ? 11:56:49 <TrueBrain> but okay .. I don't have a retail Intel 10.4 install DVD ... 11:57:04 <TrueBrain> the INSTALLER fucks up after a while .. I wouldn't know how I can inject sudo there :p 11:57:06 <planetmaker> I have it on two CDs... funny as it may sound. 11:57:20 <TrueBrain> maybe a copy of those 2 CDs might be useful ;) 11:57:39 <TrueBrain> the only 10.4 install I have, says it is for PPC (while the Intel files are also there, but the installer just refuses) 11:57:45 <planetmaker> tehehe :-) 11:58:20 <TrueBrain> on my disk there is xcode in the install options 11:58:23 <TrueBrain> I guess that is not normal ;) 11:58:36 <glx> no it's ok 11:59:00 <planetmaker> That's ok, IIRC with 10.4 11:59:12 <TrueBrain> really? Weirdos ... 12:00:05 <planetmaker> what's weired about it? 12:00:10 <planetmaker> Normal users don't need it. 12:00:18 <planetmaker> It's a separate thing with 10.6, too 12:00:22 <TrueBrain> it is on by default :p 12:00:28 <TrueBrain> with 10.6 you need to download xcode from the web :p 12:00:35 <planetmaker> uhm... no? 12:00:51 <planetmaker> I would have noticed a download of considerable size, I think 12:01:14 <planetmaker> I don't have the fastest web at home. 12:01:35 <Eddi|zuHause> our politics are hopelessly screwed up :( 12:02:03 <planetmaker> what does politics have to do with my internet speed? ;-) 12:02:07 * planetmaker wonders 12:02:42 <Eddi|zuHause> "Konjunkturpaket 2"? "High-Speed-Internet auf dem Lande"? 12:03:38 <planetmaker> I'm living in a town with 230000 inhabitants. That doesn't qualify as "auf dem Lande". 12:04:09 <planetmaker> I simply cannot be arsed to pay more for something I don't need. 12:04:18 <Eddi|zuHause> it does, when you live in east germany ;) 12:04:26 <planetmaker> Been there, done that ;-) 12:04:46 <planetmaker> but in general: I do agree there. 12:05:00 <planetmaker> Jena is an exception. 12:05:38 <Eddi|zuHause> but i actually do live outside of town... 12:06:10 <Eddi|zuHause> and i was the first person in my closer friends that got DSL 12:06:13 <planetmaker> I still believe you should either live in Halle or Leipzig ;-) 12:06:47 <TrueBrain> planetmaker: nowhere in the 10.6 install I have to option to install XCode ... but okay :p 12:07:16 <TrueBrain> I have a user via mail which claims he has the right password for his account, yet it fails to login :) We can talk about such things for such a long time .. but in the end the system always wins: you have the wrong password in mind :p 12:07:34 <planetmaker> TrueBrain, not "in". But on the CD there are two things I can chose from: "install 10.6 and install xcode". IIRC from yesterday ;-) 12:07:41 <planetmaker> s/CD/DVD/ 12:08:00 <TrueBrain> planetmaker: oh, that might be :p 12:08:10 <TrueBrain> I didn't look passed the OSInstall.mpkg :p 12:08:54 <planetmaker> e.g. after I installed 10.6 I inserted the DVD and the volume had three entries on the main level. OSX install, some readme and xcode install. 12:09:05 <TrueBrain> you might be right :) 12:09:51 <planetmaker> but 10.6 doesn't come anymore with the 10.3.9 SDK. 12:09:56 <TrueBrain> nope :) 12:09:59 <dihedral> anybody here absolutely fit with rgb led's? 12:10:01 <TrueBrain> that I noticed yesterday too :) 12:10:15 <planetmaker> but you can select the other two, 10.4u and 10.5 12:10:16 <dihedral> i have a 3w led, 350mA/colour 12:10:17 <TrueBrain> dihedral: euh ... WHAT?! 12:10:19 <TrueBrain> are you a bot? :) 12:10:31 <TrueBrain> led's .. led is what? :p :p :p :p 12:10:57 <planetmaker> dihedral, you should ask your question ;-) 12:10:57 <dihedral> min resistor: 27Ohm/3W for green and blue, 33Ohm/4W for red @ 12V 12:11:06 <TrueBrain> planetmaker: of course when I said that yesterday, Bjarni started to yell about the fact 10.4u contains 10.3.9 .. totally missing the point I guess :p 12:11:06 <planetmaker> eh? 12:11:07 <dihedral> now i want to fade colours :-D 12:11:19 <planetmaker> TrueBrain, sounds like :-) 12:11:20 <dihedral> and i have no idea what kind of resistors to get 12:11:29 * dihedral gives planetmaker an 'it' 12:11:51 <TrueBrain> "Never mind it seems my underscores where remove from my password. (normaly I use password safe from Firefox)" <- LOL!!! Yes, a magic person walked into a ssha encrypted password, and removed the _ 12:11:54 <planetmaker> dihedral, you shouldn't look at the colour, but at the datasheet which gives you the forward voltage of the LED(s). 12:11:56 <dihedral> (hackintosh.org contains a hacked version of 10.6 already :-)) 12:12:10 <dihedral> planetmaker, i whish i had a datasheet 12:12:12 <TrueBrain> dihedral: why hack 10.6? 12:12:16 <TrueBrain> I run retail on non-mac hardware 12:12:22 <dihedral> oh? 12:12:23 <dihedral> ok 12:12:27 <planetmaker> http://led.linear1.org/led.wiz <-- and then hack the values there. 12:13:02 <dihedral> http://www.led1.de/shop/product_info.php?pName=prolight-power-rgb-led-3-watt-ca-106-lumen-p-308&cName=prolight-power-leds-prolight-power-rgb-leds-c-8_73 12:13:56 <planetmaker> err.... that's a dark one. I have 100 times as bright. For just 1,50EUR a piece. 12:14:14 <planetmaker> but single colour :-) 12:14:15 <dihedral> and for an rgb led i enter 3 for "leds in your array"? 12:14:50 <planetmaker> dihedral, below on that site it tells you the recommended resistors... 12:15:08 <planetmaker> and how to attach power. 12:15:20 <planetmaker> so you need all three. They have common ground. 12:15:41 <planetmaker> may I say "those who can read are at an advantage"? ;-) 12:16:11 <dihedral> i have no idea what i am to get for other resistors to get a somewhat noticable darker green (e.g.) 12:16:15 <planetmaker> actually... they have common phase. not ground. 12:16:44 <planetmaker> dihedral, get a (or three) poti. 12:16:50 <planetmaker> and adjust them to your needs :-) 12:18:07 <glx> then mesure the values and replace with resistors :) 12:18:57 <planetmaker> or just leave them at that. 12:31:13 *** mib_3frsno [91764840@webchat.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 12:31:29 <mib_3frsno> planetmaker: indeed, logging in under 'root' fixed the 10.4 install problem :) So I won't be needing it :) 12:31:31 <mib_3frsno> tnx anyway ;) 12:31:50 <mib_3frsno> I still have no idea if I can boot from it, but that is a different story .. 12:31:53 <mib_3frsno> lets try that now .. 12:31:59 *** mib_3frsno [91764840@webchat.mibbit.com] has quit [] 12:32:07 <planetmaker> mib_3frsno, no worries. Glad to hear it works for you ;-) 12:32:13 <planetmaker> hm. 12:35:10 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has joined #openttd 12:35:42 <TrueBrain> well, booting doesn't :( 12:35:48 <TrueBrain> starts to infinite reboot 12:36:03 <TrueBrain> well, something for another day :) 12:36:12 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm glad you're having fun ;) 12:36:23 <TrueBrain> aint I always? :) 12:36:34 <Eddi|zuHause> no. not when talking to users ;) 12:36:37 <TrueBrain> oh, and sorry about those weird names, I can't be bothered to change that in mibbit 12:38:41 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has quit [] 12:41:24 <TrueBrain> oh well, a person really can only do so much OSX on one day .. or look at 1024x768, I guess :) 12:41:44 <Eddi|zuHause> hm... my train just "pushed open" a switch, even though the switches are technically not eligible to do that 12:41:56 <Eddi|zuHause> they should produce a shortcut when attempting that... 12:42:04 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r17487 /trunk/src/ (company_cmd.cpp os/windows/crashlog_win.cpp): -Fix: silence some MSVC warnings 12:42:17 <TrueBrain> you got to love MSVC :p 12:42:32 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 12:42:47 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:43:03 <Rubidium> yeah, it doesn't like 64 bits vars to be truncated to 32 without telling it explicitly 12:43:10 <TrueBrain> ghehe 12:43:12 <TrueBrain> no shit :p 12:43:29 <Rubidium> gcc just ignores them 12:43:37 <Rubidium> which can be bad 12:43:42 <TrueBrain> yup 12:43:45 <TinoDidriksen> You can enable those warnings for GCC. 12:45:31 <Rubidium> how? 12:47:26 *** bb10 [~nn@dhcp-077-248-075-030.chello.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:49:53 <TinoDidriksen> There's a bunch of options, but -Wall -Wextra should be base, then any of -Wcoercion -Wconversion -Wsign_compare ( http://gcc.gnu.org/wiki/Wcoercion ) ... not sure which are in mainline atm. 12:51:14 <Rubidium> at least -Wsign-compare 12:52:18 <TinoDidriksen> -Wconversion is in 4.3+ 12:52:25 <TinoDidriksen> Dunno about earlier 12:52:32 <TinoDidriksen> But -Wextra should turn on sign compare. 12:52:53 <Rubidium> -Wcoercion isn't known by 4.5 12:54:07 <Rubidium> hmm, -Wconversion complains about going from byte to int too :( 12:54:22 <Rubidium> or from unsigned char to unsigned int 12:54:25 <TinoDidriksen> Yeah, -Wconversion is a bit...talky. 12:54:44 <Rubidium> which basically means it's useless 12:54:49 <TinoDidriksen> Yup 12:55:13 <TinoDidriksen> That's what the coercion patches were supposed to fix, but guess they haven't gotten in yet. 12:55:15 <Rubidium> and not the same as MSVC's thingy 12:59:34 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@188.123.106.105] has joined #openttd 13:02:00 <dihedral> <planetmaker> dihedral, get a (or three) poti. <- dont have them here, nor in the shop, esp not for 3W 13:02:41 <planetmaker> rs-online, conrad, reichelt will have those. 13:03:10 <planetmaker> and they need not be 3W, but whatever is your power loss over them. 13:03:32 <planetmaker> you also might pre-fix them with a constant resistor. but then they might be hard to get by, if their range is only a few ohms. 13:04:38 *** fjb [~frank@p5485BA32.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 13:05:03 <fjb> Hello. 13:05:22 <TinoDidriksen> Rubidium, g++ here does not complain about unsigned char -> unsigned int with -Wconversion... 13:05:39 <Belugas> hello 13:05:40 *** amckinley [~amckinley@c-67-164-97-175.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: amckinley] 13:06:05 <dihedral> you scared him away Belugas 13:06:10 <Rubidium> warning: conversion to 'byte' from 'uint' may alter its value 13:06:21 <TinoDidriksen> What is your byte typedef ? 13:06:38 <Belugas> dihedral, not my fault if he's so nervous 13:06:46 <Hexan> when is change some settings in my openttd.cfg on a dedicated freebsd server and restart the server, then it changes some of the settings back to default - but its not all settings its doing that with. what too do? 13:06:48 <Rubidium> typedef unsigned char byte; 13:06:55 <Rubidium> typedef unsigned int uint; 13:07:46 <TinoDidriksen> Oi, that's to unsigned char, not from. That's a valid complaint... 13:08:22 <Rubidium> hmm... stupid warning then... reversing stuff 13:08:34 <TinoDidriksen> MSVC would also complain about that. 13:09:26 <Rubidium> nope, it doesn't 13:10:17 <TinoDidriksen> warning C4244: '=' : conversion from 'unsigned int' to 'unsigned char', possible loss of data 13:10:59 <TinoDidriksen> Warn level 4 13:11:00 <Rubidium> if it would warn, then it would have gazillions of warnings in OpenTTD. It doesn't 13:11:52 <Rubidium> warning level of OTTD is 3 13:11:58 <TinoDidriksen> Ah 13:12:10 <Rubidium> yet it warns about size_t -> int, which is the same class of uint -> byte 13:12:26 <TinoDidriksen> Nah, that's unsigned to signed, much worse. 13:13:10 <TinoDidriksen> -Wextra would also complain about that. 13:13:42 <Rubidium> well, in that case... why does it only whine if size_t is 64 bits? 13:14:51 <TinoDidriksen> ...good question. Probably because overflow rules for that are not well defined. 13:16:03 <Rubidium> no idea what -Wextra adds, but no (extra) warnings for me 13:17:29 <TinoDidriksen> For cruelty, how about -ansi -pedantic ? 13:17:35 *** tux_mark_5 [~kvirc@lan-84-240-29-163.vln.skynet.lt] has quit [Quit: KVIrc Insomnia 4.0.0, revision: , sources date: 20090115, built on: 2009/03/07 00:45:02 UTC http://www.kvirc.net/] 13:17:51 <Rubidium> that's going to explode my logs 13:18:45 <TinoDidriksen> But -Wextra does the sign-compare check at least, and some other silly error checking. Good to have on. 13:19:13 <Rubidium> sign compare is already on 13:39:10 *** ostannard [~ostannard@92.11.103.185] has joined #openttd 13:43:30 *** ostannard [~ostannard@92.11.103.185] has left #openttd [] 13:48:05 <TrueBrain> thank you for visiting .. 13:52:46 *** Coco-Banana-Man [~Stephan.D@p5B2DEF0D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:53:41 *** Coco-Banana-Man [~Stephan.D@p5B2DEF0D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 13:58:20 *** Dred_furst [~Dred@cpc3-pool3-0-0-cust999.sotn.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 13:58:52 *** Zahl [~Zahl@78.52.213.17] has joined #openttd 14:01:52 <TrueBrain> pompiedom 14:06:23 *** OwenS [~oshepherd@cpc1-stkn13-0-0-cust18.midd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 14:25:03 *** pavel1269 [~quassel@r2ao16.net.upc.cz] has joined #openttd 14:26:09 <pavel1269> hello 14:32:34 *** Phoenix_the_II [ralph@home.deboom.biz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:32:41 *** Phoenix_the_II [ralph@home.deboom.biz] has joined #openttd 14:40:27 *** oskari89 [oskari89@212-149-207-211.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 14:41:42 *** nicfer [~Usuario@168.226.105.39] has joined #openttd 14:53:48 *** mikegrb [~michael@mikegrb.netop.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Reconnecting] 14:53:52 *** mikegrb [~michael@mikegrb.netop.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 14:54:28 *** PhoenixII [ralph@home.deboom.biz] has joined #openttd 14:54:28 *** Phoenix_the_II [ralph@home.deboom.biz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:55:13 <Rubidium> ^ is that one of the signs of American instability? 14:55:15 *** tosse [tosse@tosse.pp.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:55:54 <TrueBrain> whereever you refer to: yes 14:56:06 <Xaroth> the underscore, i take it? 14:56:09 <Rubidium> Phoenix coming and leaving all the time 14:56:30 <Rubidium> which reminds me of Phoenix, AZ 14:56:41 <planetmaker> I think he's Dutch, though 14:57:53 <Xaroth> nah, german 14:58:47 <planetmaker> whois gives his residence in Rotterdam. 14:58:55 *** tosse [tosse@tosse.pp.se] has joined #openttd 14:59:09 <planetmaker> and a Dutch name. 14:59:19 <TrueBrain> Phoenix is not really Dutch ... 14:59:51 <MrN> Ralph de Boom... sounds like a phantasy name? 15:00:08 <TrueBrain> that is just a real name :) 15:00:19 <planetmaker> You think so? 15:00:27 <planetmaker> I think it's real 15:00:59 <planetmaker> The name sounds Dutch and the address is Dutch. But if TB says he isn't, I have reason to believe that he might know ;-) 15:01:02 <MrN> TrueBrain: real names can be weird :) 15:01:09 <MrN> like mine. 15:01:15 <Xaroth> planetmaker: as i said, he's german. 15:01:27 <TrueBrain> planetmaker: no, I siad Phoenix is not a Dutch name 15:01:30 <TrueBrain> 'de Boom' very much is 15:01:35 <planetmaker> TrueBrain, ok :-) 15:01:38 <MrN> Xaroth: so Ralph de Boom is not his real name? 15:01:53 <Xaroth> The cake is a lie! 15:02:03 <planetmaker> whatever nationality, he's a very nice and generous person. 15:02:19 <TrueBrain> yes, he gives me tons of pink lines 15:02:20 <TrueBrain> I love those 15:02:25 <planetmaker> :-P 15:02:32 <TrueBrain> @seen PhoenixII 15:02:32 <DorpsGek> TrueBrain: PhoenixII was last seen in #openttd 32 weeks, 5 days, 19 hours, 2 minutes, and 49 seconds ago: <PhoenixII> :p 15:02:32 <Rubidium> yeah, but so is the American Ambassador to the NATO is Dutch (by birth) too 15:02:34 <planetmaker> you're pink, Mr TrueBrain ;-) 15:02:37 <TrueBrain> yet he doesn't really talk 15:03:00 <planetmaker> at least in my xchat :-P 15:03:15 <TrueBrain> Rubidium too 15:03:32 <planetmaker> He's... dunno green-blue here. 15:03:50 <Rubidium> you're all gray and I'm white :) 15:03:59 <TrueBrain> but you are WEIRD! 15:04:21 <Rubidium> says "formerly known as Weirdo" 15:04:29 <TrueBrain> :) 15:05:16 <planetmaker> haha :-) 15:10:19 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B75359.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:10:37 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B75359.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:11:49 *** Dezmond [~opera@195.54.26.202] has joined #openttd 15:11:58 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r17488 /trunk/src/ (5 files in 2 dirs): -Feature [FS#2339]: add the date to all logging in the (real, not in-game) console if show_date_in_console is set. For dedicated server binaries the default is 'on', for the rest it is 'off'. 15:14:36 <planetmaker> yeah! 15:14:39 <planetmaker> nice one :-) 15:21:59 *** Dreamxtreme [~chatzilla@93-97-81-59.zone5.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 15:33:24 *** BaronChaos [~BaronChao@p5B26A0A4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 15:39:31 *** MrN is now known as MrN_ 15:39:59 *** nicfer [~Usuario@168.226.105.39] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:53:44 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF9F4F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:57:58 *** oskari89 [oskari89@212-149-207-211.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:09:13 *** DJ_Nekkid [~tmsmje@static128-249.adsl.no] has joined #openttd 16:10:32 *** Splex [~splex@121.165.245.76] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 16:12:30 *** Splex [~splex@121.165.245.76] has joined #openttd 16:12:46 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 16:15:02 *** Lachie_ [whitey@creep.bur.st] has quit [Server closed connection] 16:15:26 *** Lachie [whitey@creep.bur.st] has joined #openttd 16:16:46 *** DJNekkid [~tmsmje@77.18.65.46.tmi.telenormobil.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:24:14 *** B_Chaos [~BaronChao@p5B26C12A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 16:24:17 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:24:33 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 16:27:15 *** Dezmond [~opera@195.54.26.202] has left #openttd [] 16:28:41 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r17489 /trunk/src/lang/english.txt: -Fix [FS#3187] (r17471): the tooltip said the inverse of what actually happened 16:30:49 *** ChaosTwo [~BaronChao@p5B26C03A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 16:31:25 *** BaronChaos [~BaronChao@p5B26A0A4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:34:46 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@88.130.184.74] has joined #openttd 16:35:22 *** Splex [~splex@121.165.245.76] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:38:00 *** B_Chaos [~BaronChao@p5B26C12A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:39:50 *** Azrael- [~azraeluk@cpc4-papw2-0-0-cust778.cmbg.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 16:39:52 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@88.130.184.74] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:40:29 *** Splex [~splex@121.165.245.76] has joined #openttd 16:40:38 *** CIA-1 [~CIA@208.69.182.149] has quit [Server closed connection] 16:40:44 *** CIA-4 [~CIA@208.69.182.149] has joined #openttd 16:40:53 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@88.130.173.171] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:42:34 <pavel1269> whats the problem, when one inline function call another inline function? or it is just compiler related ... ? 16:43:06 *** ChaosTwo [~BaronChao@p5B26C03A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:43:38 *** _ln [~lanurmi@dyn-xdsl-83-150-113-243.nebulazone.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:48:09 *** _ln [~lanurmi@dyn-xdsl-83-150-113-243.nebulazone.fi] has joined #openttd 16:50:31 <TinoDidriksen> pavel1269, why would that be a problem? 16:50:49 <pavel1269> i dont know, but when i remove the inline, it compile okay 16:51:14 <TinoDidriksen> Are the inlined functions in the same translation unit? 16:51:37 <TinoDidriksen> (same .cpp) 16:51:44 <TinoDidriksen> Or accessible from a single cpp 16:52:02 <pavel1269> sure, will copy error, wait 16:52:33 <pavel1269> [ILINK32 Error] Error: Unresolved external '__fastcall ClientList::GetStatus(System::AnsiStringT<0>)' referenced from ...\RELEASE\MAIN.OBJ 16:53:14 <pavel1269> not related to OTTD by the way ;-) 16:53:38 <TinoDidriksen> That means they're not in the same translation unit (.cpp). 16:54:14 <pavel1269> wheres the copypaste ... 16:54:22 <TinoDidriksen> codepad.org 16:54:27 <Xaroth> paste.openttd.org ? 16:54:33 <pavel1269> thanks 16:54:42 <Xaroth> paste.xaroth.nl if all else fails 16:54:52 <TinoDidriksen> codepad.org is the best... 16:56:49 <pavel1269> http://paste.openttd.org/216800 16:58:10 <TinoDidriksen> Er, why is your inline after the type? Also, __fastcall is not necessary. 16:58:36 <TinoDidriksen> pavel1269, http://codepad.org/eWdsbgMS inline -> inline works fine. 16:59:18 <pavel1269> actualy, i have no idea whats __fastcall for, but its there everywhere by default, so i continue :-) 16:59:26 *** Roujin [~chatzilla@mnch-5d8726c1.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 16:59:53 <TinoDidriksen> __fastcall is a MSVC++ specific thing. Won't do anything portably, and it's sort of outdated for C++ because we have inline. 17:00:19 <pavel1269> that project need to be done in codegear :-X 17:00:39 <pavel1269> worst IDE I have ever come across 17:01:13 <pavel1269> its faster for me to write sources in MSVC and just compile under that thing ... :-D 17:01:18 <Roujin> cheers! Who's the one to talk to again wrt. the noai project pages http://noai.openttd.org/projects ? Yexo? -- I cannot access any of the repositories, it gives an Internal error. 17:02:31 <TinoDidriksen> I'd recommend removing __fastcall ... it's really not portable, and doesn't do anything C++ that inline doesn't do anyway. 17:03:02 <TrueBrain> Roujin: that url works fine. 17:03:42 <Roujin> TrueBrain: for me too. ;) but not if I click on any project there and then on "repository" 17:03:45 *** MrN_ [~otto@p5B2FDEA0.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 17:03:46 *** MrN_ [~otto@p5B2FDEA0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:04:01 <TrueBrain> then why don't you give such a link? 17:04:13 <Roujin> wait a sec... seems to have solved itself 17:04:15 <TrueBrain> yeah, when I visit your page via www.google.com I get at some level sometimes in a very weird case a 500 page 17:04:25 <TinoDidriksen> pavel1269, but inline -> inline is perfectly valid, so long as they're in the same unit...where are you calling ClientList::GetStatus from? 17:04:30 <TrueBrain> I mean ... come on ... this is http! You can give the EXACT page that is giving you trouble :( 17:05:16 <pavel1269> TinoDidriksen: another unit :-) 17:05:26 *** N35 [~user@0x55535623.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Server closed connection] 17:05:28 *** N35 [~user@0x55535623.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 17:05:57 <Roujin> okay. I'm sorry. I will try to remember next time. 17:06:13 <TrueBrain> thank yuo :) 17:06:41 *** TheMask96 [martijn@greed.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:06:50 <TinoDidriksen> pavel1269, 'cause inline class functions should be declared and defined in the header alone. If you put them in the .cpp then other .cpp files cannot access those functions. 17:06:51 *** PhoenixII [ralph@home.deboom.biz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:06:56 *** Entane [Entane@c0F6A47C1.dhcp.bluecom.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:06:57 <TinoDidriksen> ...was that double? 17:07:11 *** Phoenix_the_II [ralph@home.deboom.biz] has joined #openttd 17:07:12 <TinoDidriksen> Random disconnections messing up my jive... 17:07:26 <pavel1269> oh, i forgot :-X 17:07:40 <Roujin> maybe the server was down for a while shortly ago. Anyway now it works again. Just wanted to let you know though... 17:08:08 <TrueBrain> Roujin: shit happens :) Just your 'report' annoyed me, as 90% of the users nowedays don't say what the problem is, just describe it in some vague way ;) 17:08:53 <Roujin> but I have to disagree with one thing. I personally think the direct link to the problem is not as useful as "one step before" as well as a description what to click on then. 17:09:12 <TrueBrain> Roujin: even that would have done; now read back your original 'report' ;) 17:09:12 <Roujin> i'm not a web developer though so I may be wrong thinking that this is more useful. 17:09:14 <pavel1269> TinoDidriksen: thanks, now work as expected ;-) 17:09:36 <TrueBrain> 'I cannot access any of the repos' <- I know like 3 different links which link to something that might be considered access to a repos :p 17:12:24 <TrueBrain> bah, I really can't get vbox to tell APIC 0x14 :'( 17:12:49 <TinoDidriksen> Custom compile VBox ? Desperate measures... 17:13:07 <TrueBrain> even then .. it is in 3 places, and I don't know what changed from 0x11 -> 0x14 17:14:01 *** TheMask96 [martijn@greed.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 17:16:10 *** Roujin_ [~chatzilla@mnch-5d8726c1.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 17:16:48 <Eddi|zuHause> <TinoDidriksen> pavel1269, but inline -> inline is perfectly valid <<--- as long as it's not recursive 17:17:03 <TrueBrain> Eddi|zuHause: I hope a compiler is smart enough :p 17:18:03 <Eddi|zuHause> one would hope so, yes ;) 17:18:44 <TinoDidriksen> http://codepad.org/OsMhL4xl ... they're smart enough. 17:19:44 <TrueBrain> I wonder what gave the timeout :p 17:20:00 <TrueBrain> TinoDidriksen: of course they are, we were not anywhere near serious 17:20:45 <TinoDidriksen> I've been keeping company with the Freenode ##C++ people...knowing when people are serious or just being pedantic is a bit flaky atm. 17:20:55 *** Phoenix_the_II [ralph@home.deboom.biz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:20:59 <TinoDidriksen> *not serious 17:21:02 *** Phoenix_the_II [ralph@home.deboom.biz] has joined #openttd 17:21:45 <TrueBrain> @kban Phoenix_the_II 10 Please rejoin if your connection has the idea of being more stable. Your lines of typing are far below your lines of leave/join by connection resets. 17:21:46 *** mode/#openttd [+b *!ralph@home.deboom.biz] by DorpsGek 17:21:46 *** Phoenix_the_II was kicked from #openttd by DorpsGek [Please rejoin if your connection has the idea of being more stable. Your lines of typing are far below your lines of leave/join by connection resets.] 17:21:58 *** mode/#openttd [-b *!ralph@home.deboom.biz] by DorpsGek 17:22:01 <TrueBrain> TinoDidriksen: FreeNode people can't be good for you 17:22:05 <TrueBrain> you should never go there 17:22:08 <TrueBrain> it is a bad place 17:22:11 <TinoDidriksen> So "as long as it's not recursive" immediately made be think "where in the standard does it say that..." 17:22:16 <TinoDidriksen> *me 17:22:21 *** Roujin [~chatzilla@mnch-5d8726c1.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:22:21 *** Roujin_ is now known as Roujin 17:22:27 <TinoDidriksen> I know, but I like helping noobs. 17:22:31 <TrueBrain> TinoDidriksen: it is Eddi|zuHause who is talking :p 17:22:36 <TinoDidriksen> True that... 17:24:53 <TrueBrain> my foot is sleeping 17:24:56 <TrueBrain> someone has an alarm 17:25:13 <Xaroth> my phone has a rooster alarm :o 17:26:15 *** roboboy [3aad2910@webchat.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 17:30:17 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 17:30:45 <TrueBrain> "is het spel ingekomen" <- for all dutchies, that just sound dirty, not? And sounds like a sub-optimal translation :s 17:32:04 *** DJ_Nekkid [~tmsmje@static128-249.adsl.no] has left #openttd [] 17:33:03 <blathijs> TrueBrain: Not really dirty, but it's not pretty 17:33:09 <Rubidium> TrueBrain: at least it's better than "is in het spel gekomen" 17:33:29 <TrueBrain> Rubidium: that was what I kind of read the first time :p 17:33:41 <blathijs> perv 17:34:11 *** stuffcorpse [~stuffcorp@121.98.136.241] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 17:34:16 <blathijs> :-) 17:34:27 <blathijs> "Heeft het spel betreden" is still slightly weird I guess 17:34:49 <blathijs> "doet nu ook mee" ? :-) 17:34:54 <Roujin> TrueBrain: are there trigonometric functions available in noAI? squirrel seems to have them (http://squirrel-lang.org/doc/sqstdlib2.html) but I seem not to be able to call them 17:35:02 *** stuffcorpse [~stuffcorp@121.98.136.241] has joined #openttd 17:35:26 <TrueBrain> "speelt nu ook mee" :p 17:35:52 <TrueBrain> "neemt nu deel aan het spel" or something 17:36:08 <LadyHawk> "speelt nu ook mee" << i'd prolly go for that one 17:36:09 <Xaroth> [blathijs]: "Heeft het spel betreden" is still slightly weird I guess << slightly?!? 17:36:17 <Roujin> maybe they are not available at all though so I'm just asking if they are available. Please don't eat me. :) 17:36:19 <TrueBrain> Roujin: www.tt-forums.net, NoAI section, talks enough about such stuff. 17:36:24 *** bb10 [~nn@dhcp-077-248-075-030.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 17:36:40 *** nicfer [~Usuario@168.226.105.8] has joined #openttd 17:36:52 <LadyHawk> or if you prefer the latter one, add 'ook' to it: "neemt nu ook deel aan het spel" 17:36:59 <TrueBrain> LadyHawk: yeah 17:37:17 <Rubidium> "... behaagt het om te participeren" ;) 17:37:22 <LadyHawk> lol 17:37:23 <TrueBrain> +1 Rubidium 17:37:31 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@195-241-124-225.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:38:03 <Xaroth> TrueBrain: Steylloos? 17:38:33 <LadyHawk> when i lived in holland, personally i always said 'gejoint' 17:38:41 <LadyHawk> but that's not a real word i think.. 17:38:47 <TrueBrain> "een jointje roken" 17:39:01 <LadyHawk> and there's that.. 17:39:19 <[com]buster> borrowed words ftw 17:39:44 *** Chruker [~no@port113.ds1-vj.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 17:40:00 <LadyHawk> i suppose "is het spel binnen gekomen" also sounds weird 17:40:28 <TrueBrain> "neemt nu deel" is the most used dutch verb for it I guess 17:40:35 <[com]buster> I would go for "speelt/doet nu mee" 17:41:15 <[com]buster> I would still prefer changing all entries in the language "real dutchies play in english" :) 17:41:16 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590ff6b6.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 17:41:16 <TrueBrain> but what ever we pick, it sounds horrible. And the current translation which will hit the SVN in 5 minutes is not the most prettiest one I hav eseen in the last 15 minutes :p 17:41:31 <TrueBrain> [com]buster: I would vote for that :) 17:42:05 <LadyHawk> yeah 17:42:40 <LadyHawk> if dutch peeps play an english game they use the english words in their talks to a friend to refer to it.. it's all just fine in english 17:43:09 <LadyHawk> translations are the worst thing to do in coding a game i think =P 17:43:09 <[com]buster> I even know of dutch companies who refused to get a dutch translation for their game 17:43:36 <Roujin> alright.. the squirrel standard lib is not included in noAI. Wouldn't have hurt to tell me that bit directly though. :/ It's not like I'm too lazy to search, and I also know that forum, so I don't know what's the plus of redirecting me there, instead of just telling me that bit. You know (or maybe you don't) that I'm not one of these guys too stupid to look anything up themselves or learn,... 17:43:38 <Roujin> ...and demand everything spoon-fed to them. Anyway, it seems you're not in a helpful mood, so I'll not bother you anymore... :/ 17:44:03 *** Roujin was kicked from #openttd by DorpsGek [100 goodbye] 17:44:11 <TrueBrain> hmm .. that was clearly the wrong command 17:44:18 <LadyHawk> what was his problem? :S 17:44:19 *** Roujin [~chatzilla@mnch-5d8726c1.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 17:44:34 *** mode/#openttd [+b *!~chatzilla@mnch-5d8726c1.pool.mediaWays.net] by DorpsGek 17:44:34 *** Roujin was kicked from #openttd by DorpsGek [goodbye (this time the right command :p)] 17:44:51 <TrueBrain> I have no idea, and I don't care :) 17:45:13 <TrueBrain> clearly it is wrong for me to ask him to make a tiny bit more detailed requests :) 17:45:32 <TrueBrain> and clearly it is wrong from me to redirect him to a forum with all his answers when he asks a question that is asked there .. like .. 10 times :p 17:45:44 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: translators * r17490 /trunk/src/lang/ (9 files): (log message trimmed) 17:45:44 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 17:45:44 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: dutch - 47 changes by habell 17:45:44 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: english_US - 1 changes by agenthh 17:45:44 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: french - 4 changes by glx 17:45:46 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: german - 4 changes by Roujin, planetmaker 17:45:46 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: indonesian - 6 changes by prof 17:45:48 <TrueBrain> but as he is clearly a regular reader of that forum, we should all just answer his question again, I guess :) 17:46:16 *** mode/#openttd [-b *!~chatzilla@mnch-5d8726c1.pool.mediaWays.net] by DorpsGek 17:46:51 <planetmaker> :-S 17:52:38 *** Zahl_ [~Zahl@f051090005.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 17:56:21 <[com]buster> Any known problems with the RV pathfinder? 17:56:36 <TrueBrain> I only remember old problems :p 17:57:26 <[com]buster> Because I got a few RVs running in circles 17:57:38 <Eddi|zuHause> one way roads? 17:58:07 <[com]buster> yea 17:58:27 <[com]buster> But the destination is reachable 17:58:32 <TrueBrain> they used to run in circles, long long long long ago :p 17:58:45 <Rubidium> well, where's the savegame? 17:58:49 <Eddi|zuHause> road pathfinder setting? 17:58:51 <TrueBrain> [com]buster: I guess the best way is to make a savegame and make a bug report? :) 17:58:52 <Rubidium> preferably without any fancy newgrfs 17:58:56 <[com]buster> 17425 old enough? 17:59:16 <Eddi|zuHause> no recent changes to the pathfinder that i know of 18:00:05 *** Zahl [~Zahl@78.52.213.17] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:00:05 *** Zahl_ is now known as Zahl 18:01:54 *** Zuu [~Zuu@c-27f8e253.025-58-6e6b702.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 18:09:55 *** PhoenixII [ralph@home.deboom.biz] has joined #openttd 18:10:11 <[com]buster> Rubidium, http://bugs.openttd.org/task/3188 18:12:38 *** Muxy [~benoit@smtp.bdelalande.net] has joined #openttd 18:12:40 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 18:12:54 <Muxy> Goulp Kiss men... 18:14:36 <Muxy> Rubidium: about http://vcs.openttd.org/svn/changeset/17488 i made some improvement by adding the ingame date... 18:15:39 *** tux_mark_5 [~kvirc@lan-84-240-29-163.vln.skynet.lt] has joined #openttd 18:17:16 *** Muxy [~benoit@smtp.bdelalande.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:17:24 *** Muxy [~benoit@smtp.bdelalande.net] has joined #openttd 18:21:47 *** oskari89 [oskari89@212-149-207-211.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 18:31:53 <LadyHawk> the only thing i've seen to make road vehicles drive around in circles forever is a depot somewhere 18:32:03 <LadyHawk> bus would be going <--- that way for its destination 18:32:12 <LadyHawk> needs a depot so goes ----> that way towards it 18:32:23 <LadyHawk> while making the turn it loses track of the depot and wants to go back <---- that way 18:32:28 <LadyHawk> repeat as it completes the circle 18:32:31 <Eddi|zuHause> that one has been fixed, afaik 18:32:42 <LadyHawk> might be, i dont remember when i saw that 18:32:46 <Eddi|zuHause> don't know how recently 18:34:18 <[com]buster> hmm, the heliport bug has returned (not fixed) too :/ 18:35:12 <Eddi|zuHause> hm, the station grfs are not on bananas... 18:35:18 <Rubidium> the whole airport subsystem is being redone, so there's lots of stuff that gets broken there 18:35:20 <Eddi|zuHause> and i don't have the grf pack installed 18:35:42 <[com]buster> I added a grf-killed version 18:35:55 <[com]buster> (in case you hadn't found it yet) 18:36:49 <Eddi|zuHause> station grfs don't really matter ;) 18:37:15 <Eddi|zuHause> hm... something fails when downloading the "grf-pack-grf" from bananas 18:37:21 <Eddi|zuHause> says "unable to unpack file" 18:37:47 <[com]buster> http://bugs.openttd.org/task/3188/getfile/4726/rvbug-nonewgrf.sav 18:38:00 <[com]buster> hint hint :) 18:38:05 <Eddi|zuHause> ah, now 18:41:16 <Rubidium> oh... 18:42:15 <Rubidium> [com]buster: one of the truck stops of the "3 Fruits, 1 Maze" [sic] is unreachable 18:42:32 <Rubidium> the vehicles going in circles are the vehicles being ordered to that truck stop 18:43:09 *** PeterT [~Peter@c-76-19-168-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 18:46:47 <TrueBrain> Miss Nightly! Miss I P Nightly! 18:47:49 <Eddi|zuHause> so, it's a bug of multistop 18:49:06 <Muxy> hi again 18:49:11 <TrueBrain> hello :) 18:49:15 <Muxy> about airports.. 18:49:28 *** oskari89 [oskari89@212-149-207-211.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Quit: Utm Aœ - Aja 35] 18:50:03 <frosch123> what? muiltistop ordering vehicles to unreachable roadstops? i fixed that bug over a year ago 18:50:10 <Muxy> would it be possible to have airport who belong to nobody and built with a town request (like statue) 18:50:24 <TrueBrain> Muxy: code-wise, yes 18:50:49 <Muxy> and the airport size will change regarding the town population 18:50:53 <Eddi|zuHause> might give funky results with transfer 18:51:17 <Eddi|zuHause> Muxy: changing size is not really possible 18:52:02 <Muxy> meaning changing not the size but upgrade to next airport in the grf file 18:52:17 <TrueBrain> too much depends on the internals of an airport 18:52:20 <TrueBrain> so that would be tricky 18:52:37 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, and the only way to do that is to clear the airport of all vehicles, and remove it 18:52:52 <Muxy> then dont forget plane hangar to be built by a company in the airport 18:53:10 <Muxy> and allow a maximum of company hangar in the airport 18:53:25 <TrueBrain> haha, 16 hangars in 1 airport :p 18:53:27 <TrueBrain> ghehe 18:53:28 <Rubidium> frosch123: it's more tricky this time :( 18:54:04 <TrueBrain> a real bug .. I haven';t seen that in a while :p 18:54:05 <frosch123> :( 18:54:51 <Muxy> Eddi: removing an airport will not be possible from player side 18:55:21 <TrueBrain> Muxy: on a personal level, I think such feature would be overcomplicated without really giving anything in return game-play wise 18:55:43 <Muxy> well it will avoid having 16 airport by town 18:55:58 <TrueBrain> is2! :) 18:56:20 <Muxy> yes but IS2 is a special binary 18:56:38 <Muxy> who need a special client to connect to the special server 18:56:53 <TrueBrain> and your suggestion wouldn't be any different 18:57:09 <Muxy> only by the fact that the airport does not belong to a company 18:57:33 <Eddi|zuHause> a "city council builds airports" would be a special binary, too 18:57:39 <PeterT> Thank you developers for adding timestamps to console 18:57:48 <TrueBrain> PeterT: that will be 550 euro 18:58:04 <PeterT> I'll trade you my reading skills 18:58:20 <Muxy> Peter: it has been proposed in october 2008 18:58:28 <PeterT> So? 18:58:43 <PeterT> I asked about it a couple of months ago, so thanks for adding it 18:59:00 <TrueBrain> Muxy: there are very little changes you can make without going into the 'special' binary area 18:59:01 <Muxy> Peter: http://vcs.openttd.org/svn/ticket/2339 18:59:23 <TrueBrain> Error: forbidden 18:59:32 <Muxy> TB: Of course, but this feature should go to trunk, of course... 18:59:45 <TrueBrain> and is2 shouldn't? :p 19:00:05 <Muxy> yes it should, but i dont know why it's not in 19:00:36 <TrueBrain> then I miss your comment earlier ;) But okay :) 19:00:36 <Muxy> Peter: sory it's http://bugs.openttd.org/task/2339 19:00:44 <TrueBrain> my personal opinion still hold for me :) 19:00:46 <Eddi|zuHause> Muxy: technically, you can currently hack the savegames to remove the owners of airports 19:00:58 <Eddi|zuHause> afaik someone has run a multiplayer server this way 19:01:02 <TrueBrain> Eddi|zuHause: I think some assert will happen ;) 19:01:32 *** PeterT [~Peter@c-76-19-168-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:01:42 <Muxy> Eddi: yes i know, i used this hack on a multiplayer scenario in which there was airports in, and a company could not build more than one airport 19:02:49 <Eddi|zuHause> getting the city council to build an airport is actually a nice idea 19:03:00 <Eddi|zuHause> but the upgrading part is really difficult 19:03:17 <Eddi|zuHause> needs to include the "close airports" patch 19:03:37 <Muxy> eddi: yeap, then you can request for particular airport side, and later request an airport upgrade 19:03:55 <Muxy> hum, if the airport keeps the same name & id 19:04:44 <Muxy> or with the close airport, just to make some animation... 19:05:06 <Eddi|zuHause> i think, the city council should get some more powers 19:05:06 *** PhoenixII [ralph@home.deboom.biz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:05:26 *** Phoenix_the_II [ralph@home.deboom.biz] has joined #openttd 19:05:43 <Eddi|zuHause> e.g. some permanently active city policies like speed limit 19:05:46 <Muxy> Eddi: to take control over the server and fire the admin 19:06:54 <Eddi|zuHause> an alternative to closing the airport could be teleporting all vehicles into a hangar 19:07:09 <Eddi|zuHause> but this requires the new airport to actually have a hangar 19:07:56 <Muxy> closing airport is nice idea, all planes must go off in a time limit, if not they are sold and money goes to the town 19:08:39 <Rubidium> ooh... a way to lose money! :) 19:08:44 <OwenS> lol 19:09:11 <OwenS> I'd say no time limit, but all aircraft in the 'port force started, and landings banned 19:09:12 <Muxy> moneay is already lost when buying the plane 19:09:52 <Muxy> Rubi: about real date&time log, i could be good to add also in game date 19:09:54 <Zuu> But the plan can be sold after you bought it. 19:10:00 * OwenS can't believe he's having to write his own hashtable 19:11:00 <Muxy> this is a good way, when displaying log file to see if game is running 19:13:22 <Muxy> about date&time log : instead of using a boolean to switch date/time log, could it be better to set the prefix log string content ? 19:13:42 <Muxy> and replace according content & format ? 19:14:01 *** dasy2k1 [~quassel@cpc4-with1-0-0-cust90.bagu.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 19:15:02 <Muxy> am i saying dummies ? 19:15:41 <TrueBrain> those candies? :) 19:19:48 * OwenS adds optimization helper macros (Namely, ones which say "This branch is likely"/"This branch is unlikely") 19:21:11 *** andythenorth [~andy@87.114.158.228.plusnet.thn-ag1.dyn.plus.net] has joined #openttd 19:21:11 *** dasy2k1 [~quassel@cpc4-with1-0-0-cust90.bagu.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:26:16 *** Phoenix_the_II [ralph@home.deboom.biz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:26:42 *** Phoenix_the_II [ralph@home.deboom.biz] has joined #openttd 19:27:54 *** PeterT [~Peter@c-76-19-168-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 19:43:36 *** tosse [tosse@tosse.pp.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:45:21 <TrueBrain> *bounce bounce* 19:47:02 *** Phoenix_the_II [ralph@home.deboom.biz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:47:13 *** tosse [tosse@tosse.pp.se] has joined #openttd 19:47:19 *** Phoenix_the_II [ralph@home.deboom.biz] has joined #openttd 19:47:31 <Eddi|zuHause> you are eating too much 19:47:58 <TrueBrain> yup 19:48:00 <Eddi|zuHause> ps: what happened to the ban? 19:48:31 <TrueBrain> it was a very temp one, but Phoenix_the_II just rejoined .. and is still playing bounce bounce 19:48:56 <TrueBrain> (assuming you were refering to that :)) 19:49:10 <Eddi|zuHause> yes 19:51:09 <TrueBrain> so what can one do ... 19:51:24 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.130] has joined #openttd 19:51:35 *** bb10 [~nn@dhcp-077-248-075-030.chello.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:53:41 <Zuu> TrueBrain: You can make an oppositon of a thesis written in swedish for me :-) 19:54:10 <Noldo> what is it about? 19:54:26 <TrueBrain> Zuu: sure, no problem :) 19:54:27 <Zuu> Optimization in hospitals 19:54:34 <Noldo> nice! 19:54:36 <TrueBrain> but I didn't ask what _I_ can do .. I was asking what _one_ can do :p 19:55:05 <Zuu> TrueBrain: So if you are not "one", how many are you? 19:55:35 <TrueBrain> two, in general 19:55:36 <TrueBrain> sometimes 4 19:55:42 <TrueBrain> depends on the time of day, and the amount of medicine 19:55:52 <Noldo> 4 of the 5 voices... 19:56:04 <TrueBrain> why 5? 19:56:13 <Noldo> it sounds nice 19:56:20 <Zuu> 5 is not a power of 2 :-( 19:56:23 <Noldo> 4 of the 5 voices in my head tell me I 19:56:24 <Belugas> 'cause it's a primary 19:56:24 <TrueBrain> neither is 3 19:56:28 <Noldo> m not crazy 19:56:38 <Eddi|zuHause> one person can replace a light bulb, assuming he is not member of ?random_sociologic_minority 19:56:40 <TrueBrain> my voices agree Noldo 19:57:18 <Noldo> good for you! 19:57:30 <TrueBrain> is it? 19:58:49 <Noldo> coherency is nice 20:00:45 <Belugas> not! 20:00:47 <Belugas> it's boring 20:00:52 <TrueBrain> Ha, Borat in tha houze! 20:01:51 <Belugas> hoo... reminds me i've got that to watch tonigh :D 20:02:11 <TrueBrain> Why do 'new' websites always go from usable to completely useless 20:02:20 <TrueBrain> I am trying to start a game of Poker on bwin.com ... I completely fail 20:02:23 <TrueBrain> and I mean: COMPLETELY 20:02:51 <Rubidium> oh... just don't play poker :) 20:04:51 *** Aankhen`` [~foo@122.162.154.56] has quit [] 20:05:21 *** PeterT [~Peter@c-76-19-168-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:06:45 <Belugas> fun, isn't, to pay for a game on the web? 20:06:50 * Belugas whistles... 20:06:56 <TrueBrain> I play with playmoney :p 20:08:10 *** stuffcor1se [~stuffcorp@121.98.136.241] has joined #openttd 20:08:35 <TrueBrain> what a fucking retarded website it is now ... omg ... unplayable :( 20:08:37 <TrueBrain> sad sad sad .... 20:08:49 *** Phoenix_the_II [ralph@home.deboom.biz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:09:00 *** stuffcorpse [~stuffcorp@121.98.136.241] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:09:08 *** Phoenix_the_II [ralph@home.deboom.biz] has joined #openttd 20:09:26 <Noldo> oh no! the holding pattern patch so unrealistic! 20:09:56 <Belugas> he? where? what? i love it! Let' 20:10:02 <Belugas> s commit it!@!! 20:10:06 <Noldo> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=45019 20:10:14 * Belugas was joking... 20:10:19 <Noldo> I know 20:10:22 <Belugas> like i care abot that right now... 20:11:17 * TrueBrain gives Belugas some tea 20:11:23 <Noldo> I'm not actually sure, but I'm guessing it changes the small airport pattern too to be similar as in the example png 20:11:26 <Belugas> moooooooooooar! 20:12:25 <Noldo> and that is not the pattern they use in EFLP and similary sized airfields 20:13:26 * Alberth votes for a 'write OpenTTD in the sky' pattern. 20:14:33 * TrueBrain votes for voting 20:15:40 <Noldo> will the voting method be 'big bear', 'small bear', 'worm'? 20:16:19 <TrueBrain> if you feel that is the best way, sure 20:16:44 <Noldo> it is somewhat interesting to observe for sure 20:16:48 *** R0b0t1 [~Enigma@64-136-216-213.dyn.everestkc.net] has joined #openttd 20:17:35 <Noldo> a bit taxing for the one who does the vote counting though 20:18:42 <TrueBrain> at least it creates jobs 20:21:19 <Belugas> what? you don't have a script for that?? 20:23:45 *** PeterT [~Peter@c-76-19-168-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 20:24:37 <Rubidium> vote counting? 20:24:57 <Rubidium> I just though that you go vote and then they make up some random numbers and present that as the result 20:24:57 <Noldo> it's based on people voting by asuming different postures 20:25:30 <Noldo> Rubidium: that's the electronic voting system 20:25:40 <De_Ghosty> doesn't train cost less when it's parked at platform? 20:26:14 <Zuu> De_Ghosty: Nope 20:26:26 <Belugas> NEVER!@! 20:26:29 <Zuu> That would be Simutrains then. 20:26:46 <De_Ghosty> jsut wondering 20:26:48 <De_Ghosty> can't remember 20:26:56 <De_Ghosty> haven't paly ottd foreva 20:28:00 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@88.130.184.74] has joined #openttd 20:28:25 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 20:31:02 *** PeterT [~Peter@c-76-19-168-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:34:29 <planetmaker> [22:25] <De_Ghosty> doesn't train cost less when it's parked at platform? <-- there are newgrf which handle it such that they cost less in depot or stopped. 20:35:04 <Xaroth> Trains that dont' move rust as well 20:35:33 *** andythenorth [~andy@87.114.158.228.plusnet.thn-ag1.dyn.plus.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 20:35:36 <Eddi|zuHause> <Noldo> will the voting method be 'big bear', 'small bear', 'worm'? <-- i take the big beer, please. 20:38:09 <Eddi|zuHause> hm... that reminds me, i am going to the "one beer = 0.2l" region next month... 20:38:27 <SmatZ> oh :( 20:38:50 <SmatZ> isn't that like 90% of world? 20:39:27 <Eddi|zuHause> dunno, but for germany, that is exceptionally small... 20:40:10 <Eddi|zuHause> around here, a small beer is 0.3l and a big beer is 0.5l... in bavaria it's likely even larger 20:40:13 *** andythenorth [~andy@87.114.158.228.plusnet.thn-ag1.dyn.plus.net] has joined #openttd 20:40:27 <SmatZ> hehe 20:40:32 <SmatZ> same here 20:40:59 <SmatZ> though there is a pub near here with 1L "glasses" 20:41:09 <Eddi|zuHause> the funny thing is, they actually also have 0.2l bottles... 20:41:15 <SmatZ> oh 20:41:18 <Eddi|zuHause> they look cute :p 20:41:28 <SmatZ> hehe 20:41:51 <SmatZ> what country is that? 20:42:00 <frosch123> cologne 20:42:11 <frosch123> right? :p 20:42:22 <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, somewhere in that direction ;) 20:42:27 <Rubidium> is Cologne a country? 20:42:43 <Eddi|zuHause> ostwestphalen, actually. 20:42:55 <SmatZ> oh, it's still germany 20:42:55 <frosch123> Rubidium: you cannot blame the correct answer for the wrong question :p 20:43:19 <Eddi|zuHause> i said region, not country... 20:43:29 <Rubidium> hmm... Germ:any <- makes Germany look nasty 20:44:03 <SmatZ> hehe 20:44:04 <frosch123> simliar to neitherlands? 20:44:14 <SmatZ> :-D 20:45:17 <Eddi|zuHause> hm... reminds me of one function in WordPerfect. the hyphenation algorithm made sure that "Urinstinkt" is not divided as "Urin-stinkt" :p 20:45:40 <SmatZ> :-) 20:46:21 <frosch123> today it is called urea and woman oil their face with it 20:47:01 <Rubidium> oil face, wash clothes... what's the difference? 20:47:23 <Belugas> there's no pinples on clothes 20:48:10 <Eddi|zuHause> w??h... one of my magnetic signals refuses to switch to green :( 20:48:49 <TrueBrain> I read: one ofmy magic signals ... 20:48:50 <TrueBrain> :p 20:49:07 <Eddi|zuHause> everyone reads what he wants to read :p 20:49:13 <TrueBrain> yup 20:49:24 <TrueBrain> I also have the problem I first read everything as: JESSICA ALBA! 20:49:27 <TrueBrain> so annoying ... 20:49:35 <Xaroth> hubba hubba 20:49:47 <TrueBrain> correct response :p 20:50:08 <Zuu> Oh, now I need to listen to that song again.. 20:50:08 <Eddi|zuHause> maybe one of your alter egos wants to tell you "i am jessica alba trapped in here." 20:50:19 <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause: apparantly you don't give it enough incentive to go to green energy 20:50:28 <SmatZ> is it actress or singer? 20:50:38 <Eddi|zuHause> SmatZ: dark angel 20:50:41 <Belugas> lips, mainly 20:50:46 <SmatZ> :/ 20:50:47 <Belugas> mmh... and... booobs 20:50:48 <TrueBrain> SmatZ: you don't know Jessica Alba? :o :o :o 20:50:58 <SmatZ> TrueBrain: guess not 20:51:05 <TrueBrain> please go sit in the corner :( 20:51:14 <SmatZ> :( 20:51:16 * frosch123 joins 20:51:25 <TrueBrain> never watched Dark Angel? :'( 20:51:31 <TrueBrain> one of the best series EVAH!! 20:51:35 <SmatZ> nope, movie? 20:51:35 <TrueBrain> Fantastic Four? 20:51:37 <SmatZ> aha 20:51:38 * Zuu googles in order to stay out of the dark corner 20:51:40 <SmatZ> nope, movie? 20:51:45 <TrueBrain> the one which almost gets naked? 20:51:46 <Xaroth> only a good series due to alba :P 20:51:51 <Eddi|zuHause> yes. one of the best. ending with an evil cliffhanger... :( 20:51:51 <TrueBrain> Xaroth: very true 20:51:58 <Xaroth> Jessica Alba doesn't do full nude tho 20:52:01 <Xaroth> which is a shame 20:52:04 <Belugas> and that superb movie about underwater swimming too... she passes by in very tiny bikini 20:52:07 <TrueBrain> not really :p 20:52:12 <Xaroth> Belugas: Into the blue 20:52:16 <Belugas> menum menum menum 20:52:17 <Xaroth> I only watched that movie because of her 20:52:22 <Belugas> thanks 20:52:22 <TrueBrain> http://www.uncoached.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/jessica-alba-ass.jpg <- not boss safe :p 20:52:25 *** andythenorth [~andy@87.114.158.228.plusnet.thn-ag1.dyn.plus.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 20:52:33 <Xaroth> that's not full nude 20:52:35 <Rubidium> oh... maybe I've seen her on TV 20:52:36 <Eddi|zuHause> there is not much else worth watching in that movie anyway :p 20:52:41 <Xaroth> that's hiding behind blankets 20:52:42 <Rubidium> in like... Flipper or so 20:52:42 <TrueBrain> Xaroth: really? :p Lol :) 20:52:43 <Belugas> Xaroth, let say that everything that happens underwater attracks me a lot 20:52:52 <Xaroth> Belugas: har har 20:52:59 <Belugas> that one too 20:53:12 <Belugas> Welll... 3 in fact... 20:53:22 <Rubidium> the rest of the stuff in the list I can't remember seeing 20:53:25 <frosch123> [22:54] <Belugas> Xaroth, let say that everything that happens underwater attracks me a lot <- your keyboard under water? i doubt that 20:53:32 <SmatZ> maybe I have seen her... looks like 90% of other actresses/singers 20:53:45 <TrueBrain> SmatZ: Sin City? 20:53:45 <Xaroth> Wasn't she in Sin City as well? 20:53:47 <Xaroth> yeh 20:53:51 *** Muddy [muddy@playing.OpenTTD.no] has quit [Quit: changing servers] 20:53:59 <TrueBrain> Good Luck Chuck? 20:53:59 <Xaroth> she be the hawt dancer in the end 20:54:02 <SmatZ> maybe 20:54:03 <TrueBrain> (sucky movie btw) 20:54:12 <Xaroth> SmatZ: you need to watch more movies. 20:54:15 *** Muddy [muddy@playing.OpenTTD.no] has joined #openttd 20:54:26 <Eddi|zuHause> what was the one with seth green? killer hand or something? 20:54:37 <TrueBrain> well, she is 'almost' my age, so that might explain the attract :p 20:54:40 <Belugas> frosch123, i do have a tablet that goes underwater 20:54:46 <Belugas> with a pencil... 20:54:51 <Belugas> of course 20:55:06 *** TrueBrain [~truebrain@145.118.72.64] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 20:55:09 <Xaroth> hm, I never realised her age :o 20:55:13 *** TrueBrain [~truebrain@145.118.72.64] has joined #openttd 20:55:15 *** andythenorth [~andy@87.114.158.228.plusnet.thn-ag1.dyn.plus.net] has joined #openttd 20:55:17 <Xaroth> TrueBrain: wrong key :P 20:55:26 <Xaroth> she's only 4 years older than me 20:55:32 <TrueBrain> retarted oftc ... still directing me to USA servers :'( 20:55:52 <Eddi|zuHause> now it hit me... i read "restarted oftc" :p 20:56:12 <TrueBrain> oeh, I can hit Eddi|zuHause! For free! :) :) :) :) :) 20:56:15 * TrueBrain goes all happy and shit 20:56:56 *** z-MaTRiX [~matrix@nude.lesbianbath.com] has joined #openttd 20:57:16 <TrueBrain> geo IP failing big time :( 20:57:16 <z-MaTRiX> hey-ho 20:57:34 *** pavel1269 [~quassel@r2ao16.net.upc.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:58:32 <Belugas> ho hey ho hey ho ho ho ho yeah 20:59:51 <Belugas> ho ho... he he :D it's time time 20:59:53 <Belugas> to gogogogogogo!!!! 20:59:57 <Belugas> night all!~!!! 21:00:00 <Eddi|zuHause> bye 21:00:02 <TrueBrain> night Belugas 21:00:06 <TrueBrain> I found the OFTC LDAP server :p 21:00:16 <Xaroth> hack it :o 21:00:25 <Eddi|zuHause> integrate it into openttd.org ;) 21:00:31 <TrueBrain> good plan Eddi|zuHause :) 21:01:58 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: rubidium * r17491 /trunk/src/ (roadveh_cmd.cpp yapf/yapf.h yapf/yapf_road.cpp): -Fix [FS#3188]: road vehicles could get lost when the prelimiary destination (for the pathfinder heuristics) is unreachable. 21:02:17 <TrueBrain> \o/ 21:02:35 <Rubidium> [com]buster: you need to skip orders for the vehicles that are already 'lost' in your savegame 21:02:55 *** andythenorth [~andy@87.114.158.228.plusnet.thn-ag1.dyn.plus.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 21:06:44 *** Muddy [muddy@playing.OpenTTD.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:07:52 *** Azrael- [~azraeluk@cpc4-papw2-0-0-cust778.cmbg.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:10:31 *** andythenorth [~andy@87.114.158.228.plusnet.thn-ag1.dyn.plus.net] has joined #openttd 21:11:16 *** Zuu [~Zuu@c-27f8e253.025-58-6e6b702.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:12:27 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.130] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:16:28 *** tux_mark_5 [~kvirc@lan-84-240-29-163.vln.skynet.lt] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:20:18 *** worldemar [~woldemar@188.122.226.145] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:35:30 *** worldemar [~woldemar@188.122.224.72] has joined #openttd 21:38:36 *** HackaLittleBit [~HackaLitt@87.196.216.135] has joined #openttd 21:38:46 <HackaLittleBit> evenin 21:39:13 <Yexo> good evening 21:40:15 <Terkhen> hi 21:40:39 *** Rubidium [~Rubidium@rbijker.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:40:47 <TrueBrain> hello :) 21:41:12 *** Rubidium [~Rubidium@rbijker.net] has joined #openttd 21:41:15 *** mode/#openttd [+o Rubidium] by ChanServ 21:41:31 *** TheMask96 [martijn@greed.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:41:48 <HackaLittleBit> did you all have a good holliday 21:42:30 <Markk> Which holiday? 21:42:54 <SmatZ> christmas were fine, thanks for asking 21:43:15 <z-MaTRiX> :) 21:43:17 <Markk> :) 21:43:23 <z-MaTRiX> hey there SmatZ 21:43:30 *** andythenorth [~andy@87.114.158.228.plusnet.thn-ag1.dyn.plus.net] has left #openttd [] 21:43:32 <SmatZ> hello z-MaTRiX ;) 21:43:53 <SmatZ> what's up? 21:43:59 *** weltende [welterde@gandalf.srv.welterde.de] has joined #openttd 21:44:12 <Rubidium> IPv6! 21:44:12 *** welterde [welterde@gandalf.srv.welterde.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:44:22 <SmatZ> hehe 21:44:53 * z-MaTRiX watching Buffy slaying vampires 21:45:36 <Eddi|zuHause> fuck buffy... 21:45:43 <z-MaTRiX> ok 21:45:46 <z-MaTRiX> <; 21:46:01 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590ff6b6.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:46:13 <Markk> Btw, for all of you who like downtempo/dubstep/electronica; Lamb 21:46:18 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm tempted to say "i want to see that" 21:46:25 <Markk> They're awesome (If you like that kind of music) 21:46:40 <Eddi|zuHause> Markk: wtf are you talking about? 21:46:42 <Prof_Frink> I like roast lamb. 21:46:52 <Markk> Especially the song Small 21:46:54 * Rubidium joins Prof_Frink with that opinion 21:46:56 <Markk> Eddi|zuHause: Music 21:47:01 <Prof_Frink> Nah, big portions. 21:47:07 *** TheMask96 [martijn@greed.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 21:47:18 <Markk> I'm a vegetarian 21:47:25 <Prof_Frink> Wi' spuds an' veg an' mint sauce. 21:47:29 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, i like howard shore 21:47:30 *** TrueBrain_ [~truebrain@145.118.72.64] has joined #openttd 21:47:44 *** TrueBrain_ [~truebrain@145.118.72.64] has quit [] 21:47:57 <Eddi|zuHause> Prof_Frink: the poor lamb :( 21:48:10 <Prof_Frink> s/poor/tasty/ 21:48:20 <TrueBrain> poor Markk 21:48:27 <Eddi|zuHause> (derived from an obelix quote) 21:48:29 <Markk> Mostly because I don't like meat, or fish, or shellfish or chicken 21:48:33 <Markk> TrueBrain: nah 21:49:13 * SmatZ loves meat 21:49:15 <SmatZ> and fish 21:49:21 <SmatZ> and chicken 21:49:21 <Eddi|zuHause> D?nertier 21:49:24 <SmatZ> shellfish too 21:49:45 <Prof_Frink> Not so fond of fish. Unless it's battered with chips. 21:49:52 <SmatZ> hehe 21:50:24 <SmatZ> I love eating animals 21:50:40 <HackaLittleBit> don't forget the Burgers 21:50:45 <SmatZ> :) 21:50:52 <Markk> I'll survive, I think atleast. I'm 6 feet 1 and weighs 130lbs 21:51:18 <SmatZ> @convert 6 feet 1 21:51:18 <DorpsGek> SmatZ: Error: unit categories did not match 21:51:20 <SmatZ> :-/ 21:51:27 <SmatZ> @convert 6 feet meter 21:51:27 <DorpsGek> SmatZ: 1.8288 21:51:32 <Markk> SmatZ: about 185cm 21:51:35 <SmatZ> youar quite high 21:51:38 <Markk> And 59kg 21:51:43 <Markk> No, tall I hope 21:51:45 <SmatZ> but really underwight 21:51:48 <Markk> Don't to drugs 21:51:48 <SmatZ> +e 21:51:48 <Markk> ;) 21:51:57 <SmatZ> tall, ok :-p 21:51:59 <SmatZ> hehe 21:52:07 <Markk> do* 21:52:11 <SmatZ> [23:51:35] <SmatZ> youar quite high <=== looks like I do :-p 21:52:21 <Markk> Yeah 21:52:21 <Markk> :D 21:52:42 <SmatZ> maybe because of the meat I are today ;) 21:52:45 <SmatZ> ate 21:52:47 <SmatZ> oh... 21:52:48 <SmatZ> :( 21:52:56 <Markk> :) 21:54:03 <Eddi|zuHause> yes. must be. :p 21:54:31 <Prof_Frink> SmatZ doesn't do drugs. He feeds them to the animals he's about to eat. 21:54:32 <SmatZ> it can't be those drugs 21:54:38 <SmatZ> hehe 21:54:44 <TrueBrain> I go to the toilet, and this channel takes a turn for the worst :p 21:54:46 <TrueBrain> ghehe 21:54:51 <Markk> TrueBrain: :D 21:54:59 <SmatZ> [22:56:15] * TrueBrain goes all happy and shit 21:55:03 <SmatZ> long shit, huh? 21:55:04 <Markk> TrueBrain: a tru geek tek with the comp in to the bathroom 21:55:30 <TrueBrain> SmatZ: yeah .. you have no idea 21:55:33 <SmatZ> :-D 21:55:37 <Prof_Frink> TrueBrain: Take a turn for the worse? This channel orbits rock bottom at the best of times 21:55:38 <SmatZ> indeed I don't 21:55:46 <HackaLittleBit> He goes to the toilet to make space for more food :) 21:55:55 <SmatZ> hehe 21:56:05 <TrueBrain> ME NEED FOOD! 21:56:11 <SmatZ> mmm don't tell me :-x 21:56:32 * Prof_Frink posts TrueBrain a bacon sandwich 21:56:43 <Eddi|zuHause> # Tuvien Corma tultien te 21:56:45 <Eddi|zuHause> # Huinesse nutien 21:56:46 <Eddi|zuHause> # Corma turien te Corma. 21:56:55 <TrueBrain> tnx Prof_Frink 21:56:56 <Markk> HackaLittleBit: which holiday where you talking about? 21:56:56 <Markk> :P 21:57:14 <Prof_Frink> Eddi|zuHause wants a Korma. 21:57:20 *** Dreamxtreme [~chatzilla@93-97-81-59.zone5.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.2/20090729225027]] 21:57:27 <Eddi|zuHause> <TrueBrain> ME NEED FOOD! <- you actually meant "Braaaaainnnns" 21:58:13 <HackaLittleBit> Markk: this summer 21:58:19 <Prof_Frink> Eddi|zuHause: It's your round. 21:58:43 <Eddi|zuHause> sorry, i'm broke. next time, maybe. 21:58:56 <Markk> HackaLittleBit: ah 21:59:03 <Markk> Is that a holiday? 21:59:23 <Markk> Bah, I want to play some ottd 21:59:37 <Prof_Frink> Some what? 21:59:40 <TrueBrain> so do so 21:59:43 <TrueBrain> not that hard ;) 22:00:07 <SmatZ> Prof_Frink: ottd 22:01:02 <HackaLittleBit> Markk: To be honest I hated my hollidays (went to Formenteira Spain to get ripped of) 22:01:56 <SmatZ> Formenteira? town? 22:02:11 <HackaLittleBit> island next to ibiza 22:02:14 <Prof_Frink> SmatZ: What's that then? 22:02:52 <SmatZ> HackaLittleBit: not bad :) 22:03:05 <Markk> HackaLittleBit: mkay, I just sat and played OpenTTD 22:03:11 <Markk> No, but, just chilled :) 22:03:23 <SmatZ> Prof_Frink: you don't know what ottd is? it's short for openttd, what is a computer game 22:03:31 <Markk> :D 22:03:32 <Terkhen> HackaLittleBit: you went to one of the most expensive places in Spain :P 22:03:36 <Prof_Frink> SmatZ: Hmm 22:03:36 <SmatZ> actually, you are in #openttd now, so you should know 22:03:44 <Markk> SmatZ: thought so too 22:03:55 <SmatZ> :( 22:04:02 <Prof_Frink> SmatZ: I just mashed random keys 22:04:14 <SmatZ> Prof_Frink: understood, 22:04:24 <Markk> Me and 2 friends even have a special irc-channel that's kinda namned after openttd (a short for openttd-chat) 22:04:33 <SmatZ> smashed your head on keyboard and posted results 22:04:37 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@188.123.106.105] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:04:48 <SmatZ> :) 22:04:56 <Markk> It's came from when we got tired of the "chat"-function in openttd 22:05:07 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@188.123.106.105] has joined #openttd 22:05:12 <KenjiE20> SmatZ | smashed your head on keyboard and posted results <-- sounds familiar :P 22:05:22 <SmatZ> :-P 22:05:43 <HackaLittleBit> Terkhen: I payed 88 euro's for 4 pizza's 22:06:04 <Terkhen> wow 22:06:08 <TinoDidriksen> Big pizzas? 22:06:14 <TrueBrain> has to be really really good pizzas 22:06:14 <Rubidium> I hope they did fly them in from Italy 22:06:28 <Terkhen> they were served in gold plates? 22:07:05 <HackaLittleBit> Those delicous ones with ketchup and cheese 22:07:15 <TinoDidriksen> Ketchup on a pizza? 22:07:18 <KenjiE20> maybe it's a protection charge :) 22:07:20 <Terkhen> ketchup? :S 22:07:26 <HackaLittleBit> Formenteira style 22:07:51 <Terkhen> here pizzas cost around 6, 7 EUR 22:08:16 <TrueBrain> 11 when I order in 22:08:28 *** Dreamxtreme [~chatzilla@93-97-81-59.zone5.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 22:08:33 <Markk> Terkhen: same here 22:08:35 <Terkhen> and they don't have ketchup :P 22:08:52 <TrueBrain> night all 22:09:00 <HackaLittleBit> good night 22:09:02 <Markk> what, ketchup on a pizza? 22:09:04 *** Netsplit charon.oftc.net <-> joule.oftc.net, kinetic.oftc.net quits: Mark, luckz 22:09:04 <Markk> HackaLittleBit: nite 22:09:05 <TinoDidriksen> Pizza + fries + 1.5L coke for 20 EUR here, delivered. A day's food. 22:09:18 <Markk> Fries with pizza? 22:09:24 <Markk> Sounds like the US 22:09:35 <TinoDidriksen> I like fries...and Denmark. 22:09:50 <Markk> Oh 22:09:56 <Markk> Still sounds wierd 22:09:56 <Markk> :P 22:10:06 <Markk> And I'm from SE 22:10:08 <Prof_Frink> Or... fried pizza. 22:10:09 <TinoDidriksen> I don't eat them together. More like fries, and save pizza for later. 22:10:26 <Markk> :P 22:10:35 <Markk> Prof_Frink: :) 22:10:40 <Markk> Omnomnomnom 22:10:53 <Markk> TinoDidriksen: mkay 22:10:59 <Prof_Frink> Markk: Are you sure you're not from Scotland? 22:11:04 <Markk> But pizza is better when it's "fresh" 22:11:08 <Markk> Prof_Frink: kinda 22:11:09 <TinoDidriksen> True 22:11:15 <Eddi|zuHause> save already processed food for later? does not sound well... 22:11:21 <Eddi|zuHause> we have a saying here 22:11:22 <Terkhen> there's an italian here that serves pizza with spaghetti bolognese over it 22:11:26 *** KingJ [~KingJ-OFT@oops.i.forgot.to.set.my.hostmask.kingj.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:11:30 <Eddi|zuHause> "nur ein warmer D?ner ist ein guter D?ner" 22:11:45 <Markk> Maybe from Soumi though 22:12:17 *** Netsplit over, joins: Mark 22:12:18 <Markk> Is döner a noun? 22:12:29 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF9F4F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 22:12:34 <Markk> Oh, my twin brother is back 22:15:18 *** worldemar [~woldemar@188.122.224.72] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:15:21 <SmatZ> @calc (10 ** 13) / (86400 * 365) 22:15:21 <DorpsGek> SmatZ: 317097.919838 22:16:05 *** KingJ [~KingJ-OFT@oops.i.forgot.to.set.my.hostmask.kingj.net] has joined #openttd 22:17:52 *** Netsplit over, joins: luckz 22:17:52 <SmatZ> @seen KingJ 22:17:52 <DorpsGek> SmatZ: KingJ was last seen in #openttd 3 days, 6 hours, 32 minutes, and 14 seconds ago: <KingJ> I thought it was 3gbit, but due to overheads it comes out at 300mbyte? 22:18:01 <SmatZ> KingJ: you forgot to set your hostmask 22:18:58 <Terkhen> good night 22:19:01 *** Terkhen [~Terkhen@153.69.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Quit: ...] 22:20:12 <KingJ> Yes, I did 22:20:22 <KingJ> Not sure if I can even do that on OFTC... 22:20:29 *** welter [welterde@gandalf.srv.welterde.de] has joined #openttd 22:20:57 *** weltende [welterde@gandalf.srv.welterde.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:21:01 <SmatZ> @base 34 10 2992465569805918683147567262009806982050 22:21:01 <DorpsGek> SmatZ: 1213920724228187185130360911237514821728388583303425344543450 22:21:09 <SmatZ> @base 10 34 2992465569805918683147567262009806982050 22:21:09 <DorpsGek> SmatZ: FFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU 22:21:58 <Prof_Frink> SmatZ: Nobody writes jokes in base 34. 22:22:45 <Eddi|zuHause> shouldn't it be base 36 even? 22:23:11 *** fonsinchen [~alve@V9a00.v.pppool.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:23:16 <SmatZ> I need just U 22:23:43 <Yexo> @base 34 10 U 22:23:43 <DorpsGek> Yexo: 30 22:23:47 <Yexo> like that? 22:23:51 <SmatZ> @base 10 36 46470 22:23:51 <DorpsGek> SmatZ: ZUU 22:23:56 <SmatZ> guess so :) 22:24:05 <Eddi|zuHause> (34^(n+1)-1)/(34-1) 22:24:10 <SmatZ> @base 10 36 1605660 22:24:10 <DorpsGek> SmatZ: YEXO 22:24:12 <Eddi|zuHause> should give n times U 22:24:31 <SmatZ> @calc (34^(6+1)-1)/(34-1) 22:24:31 <DorpsGek> SmatZ: Error: Something in there wasn't a valid number. 22:24:38 <SmatZ> @calc (34**(6+1)-1)/(34-1) 22:24:38 <DorpsGek> SmatZ: 1591616671 22:24:45 <SmatZ> @base 10 34 1591616671 22:24:45 <DorpsGek> SmatZ: 1111111 22:25:03 <Eddi|zuHause> hm, something's missing 22:25:05 <Eddi|zuHause> *34 22:25:13 *** Netsplit joule.oftc.net <-> kinetic.oftc.net quits: luckz 22:25:49 <Eddi|zuHause> err, *30 22:26:12 <SmatZ> @calc (34**(6+1)-1)/(34-1) *30 22:26:12 <DorpsGek> SmatZ: 47748500130 22:26:18 <SmatZ> @base 10 34 47748500130 22:26:18 <DorpsGek> SmatZ: UUUUUUU 22:26:20 <SmatZ> :) 22:26:27 <Eddi|zuHause> and i think the +1 is too much 22:26:58 <SmatZ> indeed 22:26:59 <Eddi|zuHause> but that's the fine tuning, the initial idea works ;) 22:27:39 <Yexo> I'd like some input on http://users.tt-forums.net/pikka/wiki/index.php?title=Newgrf_Airports_Documentation#Var_Action_2_Airports 22:27:54 <Yexo> like what variables should be available for varaction 2 airports? 22:28:21 *** Netsplit over, joins: luckz 22:28:21 *** Sionide- [sionide@cornflakes.imen.org.uk] has joined #openttd 22:28:25 *** KingJ [~KingJ-OFT@oops.i.forgot.to.set.my.hostmask.kingj.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:28:30 *** luckzy [~lkz@luckz.de] has joined #openttd 22:28:56 *** luckz [~lkz@luckz.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:29:10 *** Netsplit over, joins: luckzy 22:29:25 *** Sionide [sionide@cornflakes.imen.org.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:29:44 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:30:21 *** Sionide- is now known as Sionide 22:30:56 *** KingJ [~KingJ-OFT@oops.i.forgot.to.set.my.hostmask.kingj.net] has joined #openttd 22:37:31 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@161-18-80-78.strcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:37:31 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:37:34 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 22:47:02 *** OwenS [~oshepherd@cpc1-stkn13-0-0-cust18.midd.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:48:40 *** KritiK [~Maxim@93-80-17-73.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:51:36 <SmatZ> # 01-0F = runway length required 22:51:38 <SmatZ> # 10 = large aircraft/airship (if helicopter) 22:51:52 <SmatZ> sorry to have uneducated question :) 22:52:11 <SmatZ> but what is the meaning of "large aircraft" when there is "runway length required" as well? 22:52:36 <Xaroth> airship? 22:53:02 <Xaroth> and new airfields vs old airfields? 22:53:07 *** Chris_Booth [~Chris_Boo@client-86-27-233-99.popl.adsl.virgin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:53:32 <SmatZ> it could be easily emulated 22:53:52 <SmatZ> like, double the chance of crashing with each 1 tile shorter runway 22:54:04 <SmatZ> probably multiply by 10 instead of just doubling 22:54:17 <SmatZ> airship could use bits 0-3 as well 22:54:56 <SmatZ> unless 0-3==0 means "it's airship" ;) 22:55:20 <Xaroth> stacking-calculated chance of survival 22:56:20 <SmatZ> Yexo, could you drop a little comment? if not, it's ok :) 22:56:22 <Xaroth> with a +50% for each tile missing? 50% / 75% / 87.5% / 93.something%, 97.something % 22:56:34 <Yexo> SmatZ: sorry, wasn't paying attention 22:56:45 *** Dred_furst [~Dred@cpc3-pool3-0-0-cust999.sotn.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:57:09 <Yexo> <@SmatZ> but what is the meaning of "large aircraft" when there is "runway length required" as well? <- guess that is indeed obsolete 22:57:51 <SmatZ> ok, thank you :) 22:58:35 <Yexo> what about: "bits 0..3: runway length required, 0 to indicate it's a helicopter" ? 22:59:17 <SmatZ> yeah :) 22:59:23 <Yexo> then "bit 4: can land on sea", "bit 5: can not land on land", so for a seaplane only aircraft set bits 4 and 5 22:59:28 <SmatZ> unless you want something like "big helicopter" 22:59:41 <SmatZ> maybe 0-2 can be reserved for helicopters 22:59:51 <SmatZ> like, no plane can land on 2-tile runway 22:59:59 <Yexo> 2-tile runway is indeed to short anyway 23:00:05 <Xaroth> could be fun 23:00:19 <Xaroth> imagine using the stacking based chance to crash... and a two-tile runway :P 23:00:26 <Xaroth> russian roulette, only better 23:00:30 <SmatZ> there are planes that can land both on runway and vertically... used only in army though :) 23:00:37 <SmatZ> :) 23:01:14 <Xaroth> and two-tile runway may be a requirement for a huge heli? 23:01:52 <Yexo> hmm, true 23:02:08 <Yexo> but I really can't think of a sensible way to support that without expanding to a word 23:02:34 <Yexo> which wouldn't fit in vehicle var 42 (the uu part) 23:03:02 <TinoDidriksen> TrueBrain, 1.5.5 worked much better indeed...goes against my nature that earlier versions are more compatible, especially a measly 0.0.1 different. 23:03:12 <TinoDidriksen> 10.5.5 even 23:03:44 <SmatZ> Yexo: yeah, it would be too much to want... 23:03:47 <Xaroth> well length 0 for runway lenght is useless, so 1 + bit 0-3, 4 for can land on sea, 5 for can land on land, 23:04:03 <SmatZ> like, decide whether the plane should use runway or heliport... 23:04:13 <SmatZ> both for landing and takeoff 23:04:23 <Yexo> SmatZ: that's up to the airport newgrf 23:04:33 <Yexo> it can decide to make helicopters fly like planes if it wants 23:04:36 <SmatZ> ah, ok :) 23:04:39 <SmatZ> haha 23:08:32 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@188.123.106.105] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:09:53 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@188.123.106.105] has joined #openttd 23:12:29 <Eddi|zuHause> hey, i want an aircraft carrier ;) 23:14:33 * SmatZ is imagining some big boeing with 300 pax landing on a carrier 23:16:45 *** tokai [~tokai@p5B2B0D81.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:17:15 *** Phoenix_the_II [ralph@home.deboom.biz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:17:27 *** Phoenix_the_II [ralph@home.deboom.biz] has joined #openttd 23:19:12 <Yexo> is there any restriction on the action 0 property numbers? Or do I just pick the first one free for this new property? 23:25:15 <Yexo> hmm, looks like part of the proposed variable is already available in prop 17 (miscellaneous flags) 23:25:36 *** PeterT [~Peter@c-76-19-168-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 23:28:15 <HackaLittleBit> Need help please, How can I be shure that when I find aa viewport window 23:28:31 <HackaLittleBit> it is on my console 23:28:59 <Yexo> sorry, I have no idea what you are actually asking 23:29:04 <Yexo> how can a viewport window be on your console? 23:29:43 <HackaLittleBit> well I try to focus a viewport when making a tunnel 23:30:04 <HackaLittleBit> I use ctrl key for that 23:30:57 <Yexo> I still have no idea of what you actually want 23:31:10 <Yexo> are you hacking the code to open a viewport when you build a tunnel and press ctrl? 23:31:19 <HackaLittleBit> Rubidium tells me that by using the ctrl key it is possible to focus on somebody else his screen 23:31:39 <HackaLittleBit> yes 23:31:55 <Yexo> <HackaLittleBit> Rubidium tells me that by using the ctrl key it is possible to focus on somebody else his screen <- I really doubt that is exactly what he told you 23:32:09 <Yexo> you can't "focus on somebody else his screen" 23:32:52 <HackaLittleBit> well that is the puzzeling thing see FS2629 23:32:58 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B75359.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 23:33:15 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77DE8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 23:33:59 *** KenjiE20|LT [~Kenji@host81-129-82-241.range81-129.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 23:34:05 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.22.161.174] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.0] 23:34:14 <HackaLittleBit> just updated fs2629 23:35:09 <Yexo> ok, I understand now what you're trying to achieve 23:35:24 <Yexo> but I still have no idea of your current question 23:35:34 *** `Fuco`` [~dota.keys@188.123.106.105] has joined #openttd 23:35:34 *** tokai [~tokai@p5B2B3A0D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 23:35:37 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 23:36:02 <HackaLittleBit> Let me try again 23:36:11 <Yexo> sorry, just read Rubidiums comment 23:36:14 <Yexo> it makes sense now 23:36:37 <SmatZ> + if (_ctrl_pressed && IsLocalCompany()) { 23:36:38 <SmatZ> still 23:36:46 *** `Fuco`` [~dota.keys@188.123.106.105] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:36:50 <SmatZ> when there are two players in one company, it will open viewport for you 23:36:54 <Yexo> I think your new patch fixes that, but it scrolls a random viewport to that location, not necesarily the last one opened 23:37:09 <Yexo> SmatZ: indeed, didn't think about that case 23:37:35 <Yexo> HackaLittleBit: you should be adding this code to the function that calls CMD_BUILD_TUNNEL 23:37:48 *** `Fuco`` [~dota.keys@188.123.106.105] has joined #openttd 23:38:13 <Yexo> or maybe add a callback for the command 23:38:33 <Yexo> not really sure if that works, are callbacks only executed on the calling client or on all clients? 23:38:37 <SmatZ> yeah, callback would be a solution, but why do you want to open a viewport AFTER building the tunnel? 23:39:06 <HackaLittleBit> No i is focusing on the end tile while you build 23:39:17 <SmatZ> only on one client 23:39:26 <HackaLittleBit> foor single user it works 23:39:38 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1C0BA.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:39:44 <SmatZ> maybe you could use some fixed number for that 23:39:46 <Yexo> HackaLittleBit: in that case, move the code to tunnelbridge_gui.cpp (or whatever file the gui code is in) 23:40:10 <SmatZ> like static const int TUNNEL_VIEWPORT_ID = 0xfffd 23:40:12 <SmatZ> or whatever :) 23:40:41 <HackaLittleBit> ok that wcould be a solution 23:40:57 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has quit [Quit: Flieht, ihr Narren!] 23:41:54 <HackaLittleBit> ok thanks 23:42:36 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@188.123.106.105] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:44:25 *** MrN_ [~otto@p5B2FDEA0.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 23:46:05 <HackaLittleBit> good night 23:46:28 <SmatZ> good night, HackaLittleBit 23:46:35 *** HackaLittleBit [~HackaLitt@87.196.216.135] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:49:31 *** R0b0t1 [~Enigma@64-136-216-213.dyn.everestkc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:53:31 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@188.123.106.105] has joined #openttd 23:53:54 *** dlr365 [~doug@S010600248c02a7d3.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #openttd 23:58:32 *** Zahl [~Zahl@f051090005.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: *schiel*] 23:59:21 *** `Fuco`` [~dota.keys@188.123.106.105] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]