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00:47:04 *** Eddi|zuHause2 is now known as Eddi|zuHause 00:58:44 *** Chruker [~no@port113.ds1-vj.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [] 00:59:37 *** KenjiE20|LT [~Kenji@host86-141-255-244.range86-141.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 01:00:30 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.8.205.30] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.0] 01:00:51 *** fjb_ is now known as fjb 01:01:23 *** JVassie [~TheExile^@nelocat2.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #openttd 01:05:11 *** glx_ [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:f899:a0b5:67d:5174] has joined #openttd 01:05:14 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx_] by ChanServ 01:05:32 *** glx is now known as Guest27 01:05:32 *** glx_ is now known as glx 01:06:56 *** lugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8c256.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:07:15 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@89.246.213.88] has joined #openttd 01:08:21 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77B7A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:08:41 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77B7A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 01:09:05 <Eddi|zuHause> oh how i wish i had a decent scripting language in openttd... 01:09:33 *** Guest27 [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:f899:a0b5:67d:5174] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:09:51 <Eddi|zuHause> ... or even pasting into the openttd console... 01:14:18 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77B7A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:14:40 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77B7A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 01:23:56 *** ezracooper_ [~ezracoope@209-6-44-93.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #openttd 01:23:56 *** ezracooper [~ezracoope@209-6-44-93.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:23:57 *** ezracooper_ is now known as ezracooper 01:24:29 *** sparrL [kvirc@adsl-068-213-102-182.sip.jan.bellsouth.net] has joined #openttd 01:24:49 <sparrL> Is there a way to force OpenTTD to use a full-screen resolution that SDL doesn't return on the list? 01:24:59 <sparrL> in Windows, if that matters 01:25:31 <Rubidium> maybe if you set fullscreen and the resolution in the config file? 01:25:35 <Eddi|zuHause> you can try setting it in the config file 01:25:53 <sparrL> did, the game un-sets fullscreen 01:27:36 <Rubidium> then there's hardly anything 'we' can do about it and it's limited somewhere in SDL I reckon 01:28:26 *** djscorpion [~djscorpio@ool-435741ca.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #openttd 01:30:07 <sparrL> I was hoping for an undocumented config or command line option 01:30:29 <sparrL> The problem is, I think, that OpenTTD is validating the resolution with SDL before trying it. 01:30:47 <sparrL> I want to skip that step, because my video driver and display support resolutions that they claim not to (as most do) 01:37:03 <sparrL> most 1280x1024 LCDs support 640x512, as do all of the major video drivers... but no games offer it without some tweaking 01:37:03 <Rubidium> then maybe skip GetAvailableVideoMode? 01:37:03 <sparrL> I am not quite put out enough by this problem to try solving it on my own. Not on Windows, at least, since I don't have any sort of toolchain here. I might try to tackle it when I am back on my development (Linux) box. 01:37:03 <Rubidium> though my opinion is that SDL should 'just' return that as valid resolution, but then I'm annoyed of its behaviour w.r.t. resolutions anyway 01:37:03 <glx> are you sur you are using SDL? 01:37:25 *** Netsplit joule.oftc.net <-> reticulum.oftc.net quits: JVassie, tosse, fonsinchen1, joachim, FauxFaux, Prof_Frink, Phantasm, nfc, neli, rellig, (+10 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 01:38:47 *** Netsplit over, joins: Eddi|zuHause, HerzogDeXtEr, JVassie, fonsinchen1, Ammler, rellig, MizardX, @DorpsGek, Phantasm, xi23 (+10 more) 01:42:02 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:f899:a0b5:67d:5174] has quit [Quit: bye] 01:44:26 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has quit [Quit: restarts.] 01:47:49 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has joined #openttd 01:55:24 *** JVassie [~TheExile^@nelocat2.gotadsl.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:59:20 *** djscorpion [~djscorpio@ool-435741ca.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:02:43 *** KritiK [~Maxim@93-80-16-94.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:06:18 *** MizardX [~MizardX@h-28-236.A159.priv.bahnhof.se] has left #openttd [] 02:06:33 <DaleStan> <planetmaker> hm... but is there a way to tell renum not to stumble about lines like... <-- Does //@@REALSPRITES COMMENTOFF do what you want? 02:11:22 *** sparrL [kvirc@adsl-068-213-102-182.sip.jan.bellsouth.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:17:09 *** fonsinchen1 [~alve@brln-4dba93b7.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:46:17 *** Chris_Booth [~Chris_Boo@77-100-66-19.cable.ubr30.newt.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.5/20091102152451]] 03:04:18 *** roboboy [3aad2910@webchat.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 03:47:33 *** KenjiE20|LT [~Kenji@host86-141-255-244.range86-141.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:10:58 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.62] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:26:16 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.62] has joined #openttd 04:28:27 *** De_Ghosty [~s@206-248-170-18.dsl.teksavvy.com] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 04:30:03 *** De_Ghosty [~s@69-165-149-127.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined #openttd 04:38:05 *** De_Ghosty [~s@69-165-149-127.dsl.teksavvy.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:38:26 *** De_Ghosty [~s@69-196-167-2.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined #openttd 04:40:11 *** helb_ [~helb@84.244.90.62] has joined #openttd 04:40:12 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.62] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:48:12 *** ecke [~ecke@88.86.107.135] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:10:01 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.62] has joined #openttd 05:11:04 *** helb_ [~helb@84.244.90.62] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:16:36 *** helb_ [~helb@84.244.90.62] has joined #openttd 05:17:07 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.62] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:33:45 *** ezracooper [~ezracoope@209-6-44-93.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:36:54 *** Dred_furst [~Dred_furs@cpc3-pool3-0-0-cust999.sotn.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:43:08 *** ezracooper [~ezracoope@209-6-44-93.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #openttd 05:54:14 *** helb_ [~helb@84.244.90.62] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:01:01 *** ezracooper [~ezracoope@209-6-44-93.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:10:22 <Ch0Hag> Can you tell a train which platform to use? 06:11:20 <Forked> by using waypoints (only thing I could think of) 06:11:50 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.62] has joined #openttd 06:11:59 <Ch0Hag> Yeah that's what I thought. 06:12:06 <Ch0Hag> And they can't be next to each other. 06:13:03 *** kkb110 [~kkb110@host133-16.student.udel.edu] has joined #openttd 06:33:51 *** helb_ [~helb@84.244.90.62] has joined #openttd 06:35:19 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.62] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:40:57 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1BCF3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 06:51:05 <planetmaker> [07:22] <Ch0Hag> [07:12:06] And they can't be next to each other. <-- of course they can 06:51:17 <planetmaker> the magic key is again ctrl 07:00:21 *** Yexo [~Yexo@38-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has joined #openttd 07:00:52 <Yexo> good morning 07:17:07 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 07:18:03 <planetmaker> :-O 07:18:10 <planetmaker> good morning Yexo 07:18:19 <Yexo> hello planetmaker 07:18:44 <Yexo> how are you? 07:18:52 <planetmaker> DaleStan: it works somewhat. E.g. it renumbers everything correctly and doesn't comment anything it should not. But it still issues a warning comment for every line: //!!Could not read xrel from apparent real sprite. 07:19:13 <planetmaker> Quite fine, thanks :-) How're you? 07:19:20 <planetmaker> Haven't seen you for long 07:19:53 <Yexo> fine, busy with study, some other things 07:20:01 <Yexo> been absent a bit too long 07:20:34 <planetmaker> he... real life's a bitch, eh? ;-) 07:20:43 <Yexo> yeah 07:22:03 <planetmaker> nice to see you back, though :-) 07:22:49 *** helb_ [~helb@84.244.90.62] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:26:58 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.62] has joined #openttd 07:31:38 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has joined #openttd 07:42:36 <planetmaker> @base 16 10 59E 07:42:36 <DorpsGek> planetmaker: 1438 07:45:37 <Yexo> FS#1905 is closed, cool! 07:47:16 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has quit [Quit: .] 07:58:52 *** BigBoss [~asd@host96-7-dynamic.36-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 08:03:38 <planetmaker> @calc 9*32-1 08:03:39 <DorpsGek> planetmaker: 287 08:03:42 <planetmaker> hm 08:05:31 <planetmaker> indeed. It's nice now :-) 08:05:56 *** andythenorth [~andy@host81-155-149-33.range81-155.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 08:06:04 *** andythenorth [~andy@host81-155-149-33.range81-155.btcentralplus.com] has left #openttd [] 08:06:31 <Ch0Hag> planetmaker: Not if they're different waypoints. 08:06:42 <Ch0Hag> Something about can't build two stations adjoining. 08:06:45 <planetmaker> Ch0Hag: of course also then 08:07:06 <Ch0Hag> Not of course. 08:07:14 <Ch0Hag> I tried it this morning. It didn't work. 08:07:32 <planetmaker> that's why I told you about the ctrl key 08:07:50 <Ch0Hag> Ah so you did. 08:07:59 <Ch0Hag> I'll give that a try when I get home. 08:08:05 <Ch0Hag> Does that work with stations too? 08:08:27 <Ch0Hag> On a related note - can a single square of station be deleted without losing the whole station? 08:08:39 <planetmaker> see. those who read are at a distinct advantage 08:08:47 <Yexo> yes, use the bulldozer tool instead of the dynamite 08:08:50 <planetmaker> ^ 08:09:20 <Ch0Hag> As in the remove scoopy thing that makes the cursor red? 08:09:24 <Ch0Hag> (r key) 08:09:31 <Yexo> yes 08:09:42 <Yexo> r key is the shortcut for the bulldozer tool 08:10:16 <Ch0Hag> Didn't know it was a bulldozer. 08:10:23 <Ch0Hag> I suppose the icon makes more sense now. 08:17:42 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:17:44 <guru3> r is remove tool 08:17:54 <guru3> d is the bulldozer and is represented by a picture of dynamite 08:18:19 *** JVassie [~TheExile^@nelocat2.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #openttd 08:41:15 *** XSlicer [~XSlicer@dhcp-095-096-066-172.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 08:44:31 <Yexo> hmm, trying the content download and it stops downloading at 34% 08:44:41 <Yexo> tried multilpe different files now,and it always stops before it's finished 08:45:52 <Yexo> oh, after a restart it all works 08:59:20 *** Rhamphoryncus [~rhamph@d199-126-251-5.abhsia.telus.net] has quit [Quit: Rhamphoryncus] 09:13:30 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: yexo * r18395 /trunk/src/aircraft_cmd.cpp: -Fix (r17415): helicopters can turn freely even while in the air 09:18:42 <petern> hmm 09:19:02 <petern> that font-selection patch is... quite old 09:19:09 <petern> and the code is not too nice :/ 09:19:24 <petern> and the bounding-box feature is obsolete 09:21:40 <planetmaker> is there needed a font selection patch? Isn't there a good one already in trunk? 09:21:52 <planetmaker> or talking about one of your unpublished ones? 09:22:07 <Rubidium> planetmaker: user selection vs automagic selection 09:27:18 <planetmaker> ah indeed. There's no user selection I'm aware of. Is that impression correct? 09:27:44 <Rubidium> yes... and I reckon that would then again be a feature not to be implemented for a long time for OSX 09:28:07 <planetmaker> he... 09:45:33 *** bartaway is now known as bartavelle 09:45:41 <bartavelle> yo 09:45:51 <petern> is fontconfig not used for osx? 09:50:09 *** Yexo_ [~Yexo@38-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has joined #openttd 09:50:10 *** Yexo [~Yexo@38-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:50:13 *** Yexo_ is now known as Yexo 09:50:34 <planetmaker> not 100% sure to what extend... it's a dependency also there. Getting hold of fonts works differently on OSX, though 09:52:20 <planetmaker> and there's a dedicated framework for that supplied by apple 09:56:34 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: yexo * r18396 /trunk/src/airport_movement.h: -Fix [FS#3169]: planes turned too much at the end of the runway when landing at the intercontinental airport~ 09:56:53 <Rubidium> petern: ofcourse fontconfig isn't used for OS X 09:57:02 <Rubidium> planetmaker: and that is supported by 10.3.9? 09:58:46 <planetmaker> Dunno. 09:58:52 <planetmaker> I guess it's 10.5+ 09:59:48 <petern> well 09:59:57 <petern> i don't pay any attention to os x so i don't know :) 10:06:07 <planetmaker> hm... looks like NSFont is available since basically ever. So even 10.3.9 should work, though some methods get deprecated in 10.4 10:10:00 <petern> heh 10:10:04 <petern> i hate apple :) 10:10:45 <planetmaker> and CTFontCollection might come in handy, too 10:11:05 <planetmaker> probably it would even suffice to only use that 10:12:25 <planetmaker> but then... that's 10.5+ :-) 10:21:38 *** fonsinchen [~alve@brln-4dba93b7.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 10:33:34 *** APTX [~APTX@ks32603.kimsufi.com] has joined #openttd 10:33:34 *** APTX| [~APTX@ks32603.kimsufi.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:50:26 *** Chruker [~no@port113.ds1-vj.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 10:52:25 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@fuco.sks3.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 11:11:24 *** lugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8d9d0.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 11:15:31 *** [1]BigBoss [~asd@host96-7-dynamic.36-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 11:18:03 *** XSlicer [~XSlicer@dhcp-095-096-066-172.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:20:57 *** BigBoss [~asd@host96-7-dynamic.36-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:20:57 *** [1]BigBoss is now known as BigBoss 11:32:40 *** oskari89 [~oskari89@212-149-205-119.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 11:37:45 *** kkb110 [~kkb110@host133-16.student.udel.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:52:29 * petern wonders why he bothered updating ECS when he never uses it 11:58:04 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@89.246.213.88] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:05:32 <Eddi|zuHause> why are there no halftile-rivers? 12:07:47 <planetmaker> no one bothered enough? 12:08:32 <Eddi|zuHause> i mean especially ones with one corner raised, like half-coast tiles 12:09:05 <planetmaker> same answer I guess ;-). It would also make sense to have water flowing down those oblique slopes 12:11:49 <Eddi|zuHause> question is: how to handle half-rail half-river tiles? 12:12:16 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.10.171.209] has joined #openttd 12:15:42 *** BigBoss [~asd@host96-7-dynamic.36-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Po-ta-to, boil em, mash em, stick em in a stew.] 12:16:23 *** BigBoss [~asd@host96-7-dynamic.36-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 12:22:55 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@89.246.213.88] has joined #openttd 12:25:04 <petern> Eddi|zuHause, make it! 12:25:25 <Eddi|zuHause> petern: i thought you already had a patch for it ;) 12:26:09 *** Coco-Banana-Man [~Stephan.D@p5B2D9BAE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 12:30:09 <petern> d 12:34:45 <planetmaker> My best guess is that, if rivers are touched again, they'd need to become a flowing entity, are generated in the scenario editor and thus so that they can be really used ingame 12:52:33 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:f4b9:da73:9ade:2ec1] has joined #openttd 12:52:36 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 12:57:28 *** Sacro [~ben@150.237.48.99] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:01:32 *** TheMask96 [martijn@greed.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:08:24 *** TheMask96 [martijn@greed.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 13:11:40 *** ezracooper [~ezracoope@209-6-44-93.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #openttd 13:12:03 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF92AC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 13:15:56 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@89.246.213.88] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:19:06 *** ezracooper [~ezracoope@209-6-44-93.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Quit: ezracooper] 13:32:40 *** Biolunar [mahdi@blfd-4db00323.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 13:38:08 *** LadyHawk [LadyHawk@78-105-102-180.zone3.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_PkJ_4oEjc << nsfw] 13:42:50 *** BigBoss [~asd@host96-7-dynamic.36-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:50:28 *** LordAzamath [~stabuinte@82.131.16.156.cable.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 13:52:38 *** tokai [~tokai@p5B2B2FF9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:54:50 *** tokai [~tokai@p5B2B2A53.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 13:54:53 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 13:55:46 *** LadyHawk [LadyHawk@78-105-102-180.zone3.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 13:58:32 *** LadyHawk [LadyHawk@78-105-102-180.zone3.bethere.co.uk] has quit [] 14:04:00 <Belugas> yo 14:04:45 <LordAzamath> hai 14:11:02 *** LordAzamath [~stabuinte@82.131.16.156.cable.starman.ee] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.5/20091102152451]] 14:11:31 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@89.246.213.88] has joined #openttd 14:12:45 *** LadyHawk [LadyHawk@78-105-102-180.zone3.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 14:19:04 *** lskdfj [LadyHawk@78-105-102-180.zone3.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 14:21:49 *** LadyHawk [LadyHawk@78-105-102-180.zone3.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:24:06 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: rubidium * r18397 /trunk/src/network/network_content_gui.cpp: -Fix [FS#3346]: after cancelling downloading the download button would remain disabled 14:28:14 *** lskdfj [LadyHawk@78-105-102-180.zone3.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:30:42 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~flex@89.246.213.88] has joined #openttd 14:30:53 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@89.246.213.88] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:36:09 *** xi23 [~xi@78.110.223.65] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:41:43 *** DaleStan [~Dale@c-98-223-231-179.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:51:28 *** phalax [~phalax@84.19.128.89] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:57:56 *** phalax [~phalax@84.19.128.89] has joined #openttd 15:02:10 *** Mark_ [~Mark@5ED06D96.cable.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 15:10:04 *** Luukland [~Hassan@s559031d6.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 15:10:15 <Luukland> Guys, is there an option to disable monorail? 15:12:41 <Eddi|zuHause> load a grf 15:14:29 <Belugas> don't use them :) 15:15:01 *** phalax [~phalax@84.19.128.89] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:15:16 *** lewymati [~lewymati@aeji38.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 15:15:26 *** phalax [~phalax@84.19.128.89] has joined #openttd 15:15:59 *** phalax [~phalax@84.19.128.89] has quit [] 15:16:11 <Luukland> Még 15:16:38 <Luukland> I thought TTDpatch had that option no? 15:17:12 <Belugas> so? 15:17:13 <planetmaker> OpenTTD != TTDPatch 15:17:36 <planetmaker> We have both, monorail and maglev. TTDP has only one at a time afaik 15:18:54 <Luukland> Unified Maglev (unifiedmaglev, -XM): Make both monorail and maglev engines available for both track systems 15:19:13 <Belugas> mmh... actually... ttdp have both. it's the electric one that shares the maglev ( i think) 15:19:14 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~flex@89.246.213.88] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:19:17 *** DaleStan [~Dale@c-98-223-231-179.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 15:19:59 <Belugas> Luukland, this is ttdpatch, spech. not openttd one 15:20:09 <Luukland> I see 15:20:12 <Belugas> we do not have to obey to the config they are using. 15:20:19 <Belugas> we obey to the grf specs 15:20:23 <Luukland> You dont have to obey anyhing :) 15:20:25 <Belugas> nothing more 15:20:27 <Eddi|zuHause> is there a particular reason why towns are not allowed near map edges? (except "it has always been this way") 15:20:39 <SmatZ> Eddi|zuHause: it has always been this way 15:21:00 <SmatZ> the limit even got less strict recently (from 30 tiles to 20) 15:21:06 <Belugas> we do, since the fact that we adopted their specs (which has become more or less "universal") measn that we have to be compliant as much as possible to it 15:21:19 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF92AC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:21:22 <planetmaker> Eddi|zuHause, people are afraid to fall off the map. 15:21:28 <Belugas> mmh... answerinf to Luukland 15:21:29 <SmatZ> maybe towns at edges are just not nice 15:22:11 <Rubidium> SmatZ: but the same holds on water edges 15:30:39 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fc637.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 15:33:51 <SmatZ> hello frosch123 15:34:03 <SmatZ> Rubidium: I was quite used to water edges :) 15:34:12 <SmatZ> but indeed freeform edges are superior 15:34:18 <frosch123> afternoon smatz and rubidium 15:34:24 <frosch123> and the whole channel \o/ 15:34:45 <SmatZ> oh oh oh it's the frosch! 15:35:05 <Rubidium> SmatZ: you're probably misunderstanding me; why X tiles from the map edge when that requirement doesn't hold for water tiles (i.e. X tiles from water)? 15:35:14 <frosch123> yeah, and i had no lunch yet 15:35:31 <planetmaker> hello frosch123 :-) 15:35:49 <planetmaker> <-- slow 15:37:54 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1BCF3.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:41:05 *** Mark_ is now known as Mark 15:41:57 *** Chris_Booth [~Chris_Boo@77-100-66-19.cable.ubr30.newt.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 15:43:07 <Eddi|zuHause> SmatZ: apparently, the new limit is 12 15:44:32 <Eddi|zuHause> but more importantly: why is there no drag&drop landscaping in the scenario editor? 15:45:04 <Rubidium> because nobody implemented it decently? 15:48:55 <SmatZ> reminds me about Roujin... 15:58:57 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 16:00:17 *** LordAzamath [~stabuinte@82.131.16.156.cable.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 16:02:44 *** LordAzamath [~stabuinte@82.131.16.156.cable.starman.ee] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:03:16 *** Dred_furst [~Dred_furs@cpc3-pool3-0-0-cust999.sotn.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 16:19:21 *** lewymati [~lewymati@aeji38.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [] 16:19:26 *** Sacro [~ben@150.237.48.99] has joined #openttd 16:21:34 *** Sacro [~ben@150.237.48.99] has quit [] 16:21:36 *** Sacro [~ben@150.237.48.99] has joined #openttd 16:28:49 *** Sacro [~ben@150.237.48.99] has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:28:52 *** Sacro [~ben@150.237.48.99] has joined #openttd 16:30:31 *** Sacro [~ben@150.237.48.99] has quit [] 16:30:32 *** Sacro [~ben@150.237.48.99] has joined #openttd 16:34:46 *** Sacro [~ben@150.237.48.99] has quit [] 16:34:49 *** Sacro [~ben@150.237.48.99] has joined #openttd 16:36:53 *** JVassie [~TheExile^@nelocat2.gotadsl.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:54:11 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@89.246.198.21] has joined #openttd 16:57:47 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: rubidium * r18398 /trunk/src/tree_cmd.cpp: -Fix [FS#3343]: the tree 'which one to draw' hash wasn't anywhere near random and thus showed a very visible repeated pattern when only one tree type was used 16:57:53 *** Luukland [~Hassan@s559031d6.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has left #openttd [] 17:04:20 *** markj0nes is now known as welshdragon 17:09:59 <Sacro> http://imgur.com/VH1iN nsfw perhaps 17:11:03 *** fjb [~frank@84.133.249.143] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:12:26 <Eddi|zuHause> is there a setting to disable the OSK? 17:13:19 <SmatZ> nope 17:13:29 <Eddi|zuHause> because it's annoying me big time... 17:17:46 <frosch123> then add one :p 17:18:10 *** fjb [~frank@p5485F98F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:18:15 <fjb> Moin 17:18:18 *** Grelouk [~Grelouk@29.155.88-79.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #openttd 17:18:23 <frosch123> quak 17:18:36 <fjb> Quak frosch123 17:19:07 *** Rhamphoryncus [~rhamph@d199-126-251-5.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 17:26:38 *** Grelouk [~Grelouk@29.155.88-79.rev.gaoland.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:44:57 <Prof_Frink> Sacro: Subliminal != Subluminal. 17:45:17 <Prof_Frink> One's a message you don't notice, the other's a Swanage crag. 17:48:44 <SpComb> a what 17:48:57 <SpComb> also, wrong channel 17:49:33 *** Chrill [~chrischri@80.216.60.117] has joined #openttd 17:49:47 <Sacro> Prof_Frink: HEY YOU, JOIN THE NAVY 17:49:56 <Chrill> No u 17:50:13 <Coco-Banana-Man> YVAN EHT NIOJ! 17:51:05 <Prof_Frink> SpComb: Other channel is read-only. 17:52:12 <SpComb> Prof_Frink: if you say so, I guess 17:53:19 *** bartavelle is now known as bartaway 17:56:07 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has joined #openttd 17:56:10 *** TheMask96 [martijn@greed.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:56:39 <Eddi|zuHause> hm... Google-DNS... 17:57:24 <Eddi|zuHause> i wonder when Google starts an ISP... 17:57:54 <SpComb> they already have google-wireless.net 17:58:02 <SpComb> or whatever it was 17:58:36 <SpComb> wifi.google.com 18:02:26 *** TheMask96 [martijn@greed.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 18:05:38 <Eddi|zuHause> SpComb: that sounds very... local... 18:08:31 *** Terkhen [~Terkhen@220.69.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #openttd 18:09:16 <Terkhen> hello 18:12:10 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 18:20:47 *** Chrill [~chrischri@80.216.60.117] has quit [] 18:26:32 *** welshdragon_MB [~welshdrag@147.143.254.214] has joined #openttd 18:26:53 <petern> ack, after 20 years of pikka's houses, my stations are flooded :s 18:27:10 *** M3rlux [~Merlux@151.67.75.30] has joined #openttd 18:27:37 *** M3rlux [~Merlux@151.67.75.30] has quit [] 18:28:38 <SpComb> petern: build some tram stops nearby, I'm sure that'll help 18:28:49 <fjb> Same happens with most houses grfs. 18:31:39 <Belugas> whooooo... trunk updated... first time i do that in like... 2 months 18:31:47 *** Morloth [~bram@cpc1-cowc4-0-0-cust183.renf.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 18:33:54 <petern> Belugas :) 18:34:01 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:34:03 <planetmaker> woooo! :-) 18:34:59 <Belugas> just that... what's next ;) 18:35:18 <SpComb> merge cargodist! 18:35:41 <frosch123> "svn status" or "svn diff", then continue 18:36:31 <Belugas> mmh... that's my newobjects repo :S 18:36:40 <Belugas> and not the latest up to date... 18:36:42 <Belugas> cd.. 18:36:44 <petern> hhe 18:36:45 <Belugas> lol 18:37:04 <frosch123> my guesses were not that bad :) 18:37:26 <Belugas> heheh 18:38:21 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: rubidium * r18399 /trunk/src/water_cmd.cpp: -Codechange: bail out early in FloodVehicle instead of a massive if (...) { } else { return } 18:45:22 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: translators * r18400 /trunk/src/lang/ (greek.txt traditional_chinese.txt): 18:45:22 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 18:45:22 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: traditional_chinese - 52 changes by josesun 18:45:22 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: greek - 17 changes by fumantsu 18:45:52 *** Tegal [~tegal@115-64-156-58.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 18:48:38 <Tegal> hey people 18:48:46 <Belugas> hey 18:51:35 <planetmaker> ho 18:53:20 *** Chruker [~no@port113.ds1-vj.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [] 18:56:35 <petern> A FLOWER? 18:58:51 *** Biolunar [mahdi@blfd-4db00323.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: bis dann] 19:05:58 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@89.246.198.21] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:09:31 *** LordAzamath [~stabuinte@82.131.16.156.cable.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 19:17:05 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: rubidium * r18401 /trunk/src/station_cmd.cpp: -Fix: drive through road stops did not get flooded 19:17:46 <De_Ghosty> hey 19:17:53 <De_Ghosty> i have a new 64 bit win 7 19:18:04 <De_Ghosty> is it a feature that it load so slow on the mutiplayer screen? 19:18:05 <De_Ghosty> :O 19:19:04 <planetmaker> yes. 19:19:12 <planetmaker> But it depends upon the player name you choose. 19:19:28 <De_Ghosty> just wondering 19:19:30 <planetmaker> the longer the player name, the longer the loading time 19:19:40 <De_Ghosty> as i suspected 19:19:41 <Sacro> http://www.teamfishcake.co.uk/worldface/ 19:19:50 <De_Ghosty> lol 19:21:36 <Sacro> you can reply as an actual country too 19:21:48 <Rubidium> "load slow on the multiplayer screen" <- uhm, what? 19:21:57 <Rubidium> what loading in the multiplayer screen? 19:23:13 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@89.246.198.21] has joined #openttd 19:25:17 *** Chillosophy [~fu@195-241-120-76.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 19:33:24 <De_Ghosty> ERR 19:33:26 <De_Ghosty> LIKE 19:33:46 <De_Ghosty> OOPS CAPLOCK 19:33:53 <De_Ghosty> mtuiplayer 19:34:03 <De_Ghosty> click on a server 19:34:13 <De_Ghosty> and it takes like 6 seconds to get to the next screen 19:34:20 <De_Ghosty> it never happened on the 32 bit 19:35:08 <SmatZ> worksforme 19:35:13 <De_Ghosty> wait nvm 19:35:18 <De_Ghosty> think it's windows 7 19:35:21 <De_Ghosty> weird 19:37:48 <SmatZ> maybe some new-connections-in-time limit reached 19:45:48 *** oskari89 [~oskari89@212-149-205-119.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Quit: Utm Aœ - Aja 35] 19:49:46 <_ln> is it possible to submit patches anonymously? 19:53:37 *** Tegal [~tegal@115-64-156-58.tpgi.com.au] has quit [] 19:55:16 <fjb> Just upload it somewhere where you don't have to tell your name. 19:58:07 *** Tegal [~tegal@115-64-156-58.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 20:00:14 *** LordAzamath [~stabuinte@82.131.16.156.cable.starman.ee] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.5/20091102152451]] 20:04:31 <Belugas> on yur sd key ? 20:04:32 <Belugas> hehehe 20:11:43 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has quit [Quit: Flieht, ihr Narren!] 20:12:48 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has joined #openttd 20:13:19 <Belugas> ok... a clean repo 20:14:03 *** Yexo [~Yexo@38-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:14:22 *** Yexo [~Yexo@38-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has joined #openttd 20:19:53 *** lewymati [~lewymati@aeji38.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 20:24:14 *** andythenorth [~andy@host81-155-149-33.range81-155.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 20:24:23 <andythenorth> evening 20:24:40 <fjb> Moin andythenorth 20:24:52 <planetmaker> salut andythenorth 20:25:10 *** flukes1 [5ec3f68b@webchat.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 20:26:07 <Ch0Hag> Are RORO stations still the way to go, or do the new signals allow for something better? 20:26:09 <flukes1> may have found a really strange bug... i've been playing on a server for the last 2-3 hrs and I have a group of about 10 coal mines surrounding a station. for some reason though, my trains have randomly decided to stop loading the coal 20:26:25 <flukes1> just stuck at 0% 20:26:46 <flukes1> the mines are still producing but it's gone back down to 0% transported... very odd. any ideas, has this been seen before? 20:27:30 <fjb> Ch0Hag: Depends. 20:27:43 <SmatZ> flukes1: nope 20:27:48 <SmatZ> savegame would be useful 20:27:58 <Ch0Hag> On? 20:28:00 <frosch123> are the trains refitted to coal? 20:28:11 <SmatZ> maybe someone bought ... 20:28:14 <SmatZ> how is that called :) 20:28:14 <flukes1> no, but they have 12 coal cars 20:28:19 <flukes1> ag. 20:28:20 <flukes1> ah* 20:28:22 <frosch123> exclusive transport rights? 20:28:30 <flukes1> that'll be it 20:28:32 <SmatZ> yeah :) 20:28:34 <flukes1> :$ 20:29:34 <Sionide> wow 0.7.4 is out...... 20:29:51 <frosch123> :/ 20:29:58 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: rubidium * r18402 /trunk/src/ (10 files): -Codechange: unify/centralise the code for crashing vehicles 20:30:21 <Sionide> last version I have downloaded is 0.5.2, insane!! I wonder what's new :D 20:30:36 <planetmaker> everything 20:31:18 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@89.246.198.21] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:31:18 <frosch123> and you have been idling in this channel all those years? 20:31:20 <planetmaker> new AIs, online content, newgrfs, signals... 20:31:37 *** flukes1 [5ec3f68b@webchat.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 20:31:44 <Sionide> frosch123, yeah pretty much 20:31:45 <SmatZ> Sionide: http://wiki.openttd.org/OpenTTD_0.6.0 and further 20:31:50 <Sionide> SmatZ, ta 20:33:02 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: belugas * r18403 /trunk/src/table/town_land.h: -Codechange: Re-arrange header of table _original_house_specs 20:33:09 <Belugas> ho ben... it still works 20:33:34 <Alberth> you still know how to do it 20:34:59 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@89.246.198.21] has joined #openttd 20:35:21 <Belugas> seems so :) 20:35:26 <planetmaker> :-) 20:37:47 <Sionide> support for rivers wtf...... aaahhhhh am I gonna get any sleep tonight?? doubts it! 20:38:04 <planetmaker> mind... only in the scenario editor. 20:38:18 <planetmaker> thus they're not yet automatically generated. 20:38:34 <planetmaker> but, if on the map, they'll be there. 20:40:07 <Sionide> i'm not much caring about the details.. arrrghh there's so much changed! 20:40:13 <Alberth> Sionide: stop reading now to rescue the sleep you have left 20:40:24 <Sionide> noo i don't need sleep! 20:40:53 <Sionide> 0.5.2 released on 29 May 2007. 20:41:01 <Sionide> I have two years to catch up on!! Unreal.. 20:42:50 <andythenorth> hmmm....I should put FISH on Bananas :( 20:43:06 <Rubidium> is it in such a releasable state then? 20:43:15 <andythenorth> dunno, you guys tell me? 20:43:35 <Rubidium> Sionide: and then you're even missing out the last 10 months of development ;) 20:43:54 <Sionide> aahhh! 20:43:59 <Sionide> screw it, i'll get the nightly 20:44:25 <Sionide> i have r10166 installed... old school. 20:44:39 <Rubidium> @commit 10166 20:44:40 <DorpsGek> Rubidium: Commit by peter1138 :: r10166 /trunk/src (3 files) (2007-06-15 16:21:56 UTC) 20:44:41 <DorpsGek> Rubidium: -Feature(tte): Add support for antialiased typefaces via FreeType. This is configurable for each font size in the configuration settings and requires using the 32bpp blitter and suitable fonts. 20:44:59 <Rubidium> that's definitely a reason to use a newer version :) 20:45:41 *** Prince [~Prince@194.146.153.170] has joined #openttd 20:45:49 <Prince> hi guys 20:45:56 <Prince> can anyone help me here 20:45:58 <Prince> please 20:46:22 <SmatZ> hello Prince, please ask your question 20:46:24 <Rubidium> not until we know where to help you with; e.g. we can't help you get a bigger you know what 20:46:33 <Prince> how to enable streetcar construction in openttd 0.7.4 20:46:36 <SmatZ> hehe 20:46:46 <SmatZ> load a tram newgrf 20:47:04 <Prince> any tram newgrf would be fine 20:47:06 <Prince> ? 20:47:11 <Prince> or any specific one 20:47:20 <SmatZ> it doesn't matter 20:47:34 <Prince> :) thank u smatz 20:47:36 <SmatZ> you have to wait until first tram is available to be built 20:47:49 <Prince> okay 20:48:19 <Prince> gracias amigo 20:48:35 <SmatZ> you are welcome 20:48:42 *** Prince [~Prince@194.146.153.170] has quit [] 20:52:31 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: rubidium * r18404 /trunk/src/ (16 files in 5 dirs): 20:52:31 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: -Codechange: link drive through stops better together 20:52:31 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: -Feature: make penalty for road stop occupancy user configurable 20:52:31 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: -Fix [FS#1944]: road vehicles would not pick an empty drive through stop. Now they will *if* the penalty for driving around is less than the occupancy penalty 20:52:31 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: -Fix [FS#1495]: long (articulated) road vehicles could block loading of others when the following road vehicle already got 'permission' to go to the next bay even when it could not reach it 20:52:33 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: -Change: improve the throughput of the drive through road stops by letting them stop closer together 20:53:07 <Terkhen> :D 20:54:23 <Eddi|zuHause> Rubidium: feeling good now that you have disproved my prediction? :p 20:54:51 <Rubidium> what prediction? 20:55:33 <Eddi|zuHause> l?ke two days ago i said somewhere "nobody is going to touch the multistop code in the near future" :p 20:55:49 <Eddi|zuHause> and like two hours later you started ;) 20:56:22 <frosch123> "started" != "first commit" :p 20:56:33 <Eddi|zuHause> well, obviously... 20:56:43 <frosch123> i laughed already the first time i read it :p 20:56:44 <Eddi|zuHause> "you started commiting" 20:57:13 <Rubidium> oh, did I touch multistop? :) 20:57:34 <Tegal> anyone here know much about the openttd-python Bot 20:57:34 <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, you removed it ;) 20:57:58 *** ecke [~ecke@188.75.128.2] has joined #openttd 20:58:08 <Eddi|zuHause> Tegal: was that SpComb's or Yoricks? 20:58:41 <Tegal> Yoricks 20:58:51 <frosch123> @seen yorick 20:58:51 <DorpsGek> frosch123: yorick was last seen in #openttd 3 weeks, 0 days, 4 hours, 48 minutes, and 23 seconds ago: <yorick> documents/openttd 20:58:52 <Tegal> is the one i have been looking at 20:59:02 <Eddi|zuHause> then probably not... 20:59:07 <frosch123> someone banned him? 20:59:19 <SmatZ> I don't think so 21:01:39 <petern> why not? 21:01:40 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: rubidium * r18405 /trunk/src/roadveh_cmd.cpp: -Fix (r18405): RVs didn't like to stop when the 'next' drive through station tile didn't have a compatible road type 21:01:48 <petern> wow 21:01:53 <SmatZ> endless recursion! 21:01:54 <petern> 18405 fixes itself :D 21:02:23 <Rubidium> yeah :) 21:02:50 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1BCF3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:05:10 <petern> "multistop" for ships! 21:05:50 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, definitely 21:06:01 <Rubidium> nah, they don't need that 21:06:08 <SmatZ> ship collisions :) 21:06:23 <petern> we don't need 32bpp either ;) 21:06:23 <frosch123> yeah, i also missed Ship::Crash() 21:06:29 <SmatZ> hehe 21:06:31 <planetmaker> they would need more docks than one :-) - and if it's only for eye candy ;-) 21:06:31 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, they do... currently it's impossible to pick a specific ship that is waiting at the dock... 21:07:13 <planetmaker> btw... MOOOOAAR! ;-) 21:07:13 <Rubidium> click on dock -> click on ship icon -> select correct ship 21:07:42 <Eddi|zuHause> no, those are the assigned ships, not the waiting ships... 21:08:13 <Alberth> click on shiplist -> click on ship 21:09:00 <Alberth> hmm, Rubidium's option is easier :) 21:09:38 <Eddi|zuHause> well, in the worst case, they are the same... 21:11:06 <Eddi|zuHause> but one of the problems is that you don't even have an easy visual way to determine how many ships are currently waiting at all... 21:13:45 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: rubidium * r18406 /trunk/src/ (roadstop_base.h station_cmd.cpp): -Cleanup: remove some unneeded constants and code 21:14:18 <Rubidium> planetmaker: MOOOOAAR of what? 21:14:29 <planetmaker> features. Stuff. Whatever ;-) 21:14:53 *** APTX| [~APTX@ks32603.kimsufi.com] has joined #openttd 21:14:55 * Rubidium sends planetmaker some STD ;) 21:15:02 <planetmaker> specifically: more docks on one station 21:15:05 <planetmaker> :-( 21:15:24 <thingwath> (some *more* STD?) 21:16:16 <andythenorth> more docks on one station = win 21:16:29 <andythenorth> there is actually a valid case for it 21:16:37 <petern> eyecandy ;) 21:16:43 *** APTX [~APTX@ks32603.kimsufi.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:16:46 <andythenorth> that too 21:16:47 <Rubidium> s/dy/cer/ ? 21:17:16 <andythenorth> and I have a game with industry on a strip of land between two seas 21:17:18 <petern> only in toyland 21:17:59 <andythenorth> I want one station for cargo pickup...but that's not possible if I want to use ships on both seas 21:18:36 <Alberth> petern: is the black boxes invasion gone already? 21:19:03 <petern> ? 21:19:05 *** Mark [~Mark@5ED06D96.cable.ziggo.nl] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.0.4/2008103100]] 21:19:34 <Rubidium> problem would be that multistop with ships might not work very well with the simple 'n' fast ship pathfinder 21:20:32 <andythenorth> he he. the "simple 'n' fast" ship pathfinder is trying to route my ships to a depot for servicing that they can't possibly reach (unless I do some terraforming) :) 21:20:48 <frosch123> and the new multistop code would not be useful for it either, as ships are slow and docks likely not directly neighboured, so mutiple ships would head for the same until the first starts loading 21:21:34 <andythenorth> meanwhile, I should draw some more ships... 21:21:51 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1BCF3.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:22:02 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1BCF3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:22:28 *** andythenorth [~andy@host81-155-149-33.range81-155.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 21:22:58 *** andythenorth [~andy@host81-155-149-33.range81-155.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 21:23:28 <Alberth> petern: http://devs.openttd.org/~alberth/blackboxes_invasion.png 21:24:04 *** Mark [~Mark@5ED06D96.cable.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 21:24:06 <petern> err 21:24:09 <petern> i never play toyland 21:27:09 <planetmaker> Alberth: it's not gone. It got less. But still some industries are missiong 21:28:10 <planetmaker> s/iong/ing/ 21:29:23 <Alberth> last parts are always difficult to get done. There are also several face parts still missing I noticed while hacking in the company face window. 21:29:33 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@89.246.198.21] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:29:48 *** Rubix`` [~wrqwer@69.49.68.95] has joined #openttd 21:29:50 *** Yexo [~Yexo@38-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:30:01 *** Yexo [~Yexo@38-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has joined #openttd 21:30:18 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-180-93.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 21:33:48 <planetmaker> yes, we're missing the black manager faces 21:34:14 <Sacro> *coughs* 21:34:17 <planetmaker> Zephyris is currently doing a great job, getting all sprites done, though. 21:34:27 <Sacro> planetmaker: african american manager 21:35:30 <Rubidium> Sacro: but when are you an African American and when not? 21:36:07 <Sacro> Rubidium: if your skin is dark then you are african american 21:36:24 <Sacro> if you are white, born in africa and then moved to america as a teenager you aren't 21:37:36 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 21:37:59 <planetmaker> Sacro: whatever suits you. 21:39:16 <petern> oh, is "black" unacceptable again? 21:39:25 <planetmaker> black is beautiful ;-) 21:39:38 <Rubidium> Sacro: where is this 'dark' threshold? 21:39:45 <Brianetta> My black is blacker than your black. I call it, "black black." 21:40:40 <Sacro> Rubidium: errm, Obama seems to be around it 21:40:54 <Sacro> he's too dark for some people, not dark enough for others :\ 21:41:07 *** Yexo [~Yexo@38-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:41:26 *** Yexo [~Yexo@38-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has joined #openttd 21:43:34 *** welshdragon_MB [~welshdrag@147.143.254.214] has quit [Quit: welshdragon_MB] 21:45:10 *** Mark [~Mark@5ED06D96.cable.ziggo.nl] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.0.4/2008103100]] 21:46:17 <Belugas> close the lights, everyone is as black as each other ;) 21:46:48 *** Rubix`` [~wrqwer@69.49.68.95] has quit [Quit: Ping timeout: 540 seconds] 21:47:04 <petern> sacro has these silly ideas 21:47:27 <Sacro> yes he does 21:47:28 <Sacro> :D 21:47:33 * Sacro is totally no-pc 21:51:30 *** Gremnon [~Gremnon@87.112.14.85.plusnet.ptn-ag1.dyn.plus.net] has joined #openttd 21:51:32 *** welshdragon [~mjones@147.143.254.214] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:56:01 *** welshdragon_MB [~welshdrag@147.143.254.214] has joined #openttd 21:56:59 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-69-180-102-118.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 21:57:01 <_ln> nelson mandela, the first african american president of south africa. 21:57:16 <Nite_Owl> Hello all 21:57:43 <petern> _ln, quite 21:59:26 <SpComb> Eddi|zuHause: openttd-python bot? Lies 22:02:05 *** Yexo [~Yexo@38-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:02:19 *** Yexo [~Yexo@38-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has joined #openttd 22:02:51 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: rubidium * r18407 /trunk/src/tunnelbridge_cmd.cpp: -Fix [FS#3338]: aqueducts were not influenced by the "long bridges" setting 22:03:49 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF92AC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 22:14:12 <Belugas> oh god... what are those sprites now... 22:15:51 *** worldemar [~woldemar@213.178.39.92] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:16:35 *** worldemar [~woldemar@213.178.39.92] has joined #openttd 22:17:37 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 22:18:02 *** ecke [~ecke@188.75.128.2] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:21:17 <Belugas> oh ... stadium parts... 22:23:08 *** Yexo [~Yexo@38-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:23:26 *** Yexo [~Yexo@38-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has joined #openttd 22:25:35 *** Yexo_ [~Yexo@38-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has joined #openttd 22:25:47 *** Yexo [~Yexo@38-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:31:04 <planetmaker> grfcodec -d is your friend, Belugas :-) 22:31:04 *** Yexo_ [~Yexo@38-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:31:19 <Belugas> ho... it's decoded a long time ago... 22:31:30 <Belugas> just that the sprites.h table has some holes 22:31:35 <planetmaker> :-) 22:32:05 <frosch123> i hope you do not forget to run home :) 22:32:38 <planetmaker> :-D 22:36:25 <Belugas> ho ...fuck... 22:36:29 <Belugas> bye! 22:36:37 <petern> hehe 22:37:21 *** lewymati [~lewymati@aeji38.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [] 22:39:33 *** ecke [~ecke@88.86.107.135] has joined #openttd 22:42:07 *** Dred_furst [~Dred_furs@cpc3-pool3-0-0-cust999.sotn.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:45:34 *** Dred_furst [~Dred_furs@cpc3-pool3-0-0-cust999.sotn.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 22:49:11 <fonsinchen> where does openttd put the crash dump on windows? 22:49:44 <Sacro> save folder / crash.dmp ? 22:49:49 <frosch123> lol. never noticed that spiegel online has a score table for the turkish football/soccer league 22:50:36 <Rubidium> fonsinchen: whereever it says it has placed them in the crash notification window 22:51:07 <Rubidium> IIRC it's where openttd.cfg is 22:51:16 <fonsinchen> Unfortunately you can't expect people to read the crash notification window. 22:51:33 <Gremnon> I thought it was always left with the openttd.cfg 22:51:38 <Gremnon> it always has been for me 22:53:17 <fonsinchen> I think that huldu guy didn't get a crash notice though. Probably the "release" build from MSVC doesn't produce crash dumps anyway. 22:53:20 <DaleStan> SpComb: <http://zapotek.paivola.fi/~terom/logs/openttd/last/30> redirects to <http://irclogs.qmsk.net/channels/openttd/last/30?type=>, which is 500. 22:55:34 *** Gremnon [~Gremnon@87.112.14.85.plusnet.ptn-ag1.dyn.plus.net] has quit [Quit: And now for something completely different] 22:55:38 <Terkhen> fonsinchen: I'm going to check that 22:56:25 <Rubidium> fonsinchen: it should; there's nothing during releases that enables them, unless he doesn't have dbghelp.dll 22:57:51 <fonsinchen> "should" or "shouldn't", "enables" or "disables"? In this combination your statement is hard to understand ... 22:57:53 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF92AC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:58:33 <Rubidium> it should work 22:59:23 *** Rubix`` [~wrqwer@69.49.68.95] has joined #openttd 22:59:24 <Rubidium> there is nothing done during the release process to enable the crash.dmps 23:00:37 <Rubidium> but... it tries to load dbghelp.dll and uses that to make the dump, but that should be part of Windows installations according to Microsoft (not win9x, but MSVC builds don't work on win9x anyway) 23:00:48 *** KingJ [~KingJ-OFT@oops.i.forgot.to.set.my.hostmask.kingj.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:01:13 <fonsinchen> So let's hope he finds it. 23:01:27 <fonsinchen> This bug is getting on my nerves. 23:01:35 *** ecke [~ecke@88.86.107.135] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:02:18 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has quit [Quit: Flieht, ihr Narren!] 23:02:32 <fonsinchen> However, he talks about "CTD" which probably is "crash to desktop" and implies no crash notice. But maybe that's just sloppy wording. 23:03:25 *** Tegal [~tegal@115-64-156-58.tpgi.com.au] has quit [] 23:03:52 <Rubidium> hmm, maybe windows 2000 doesn't have dbghelp 23:04:03 *** Rubix`` [~wrqwer@69.49.68.95] has quit [] 23:04:05 <Rubidium> (or at least a new enough version) 23:04:33 <Rubidium> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms679294%28VS.85%29.aspx 23:04:54 <Rubidium> we need 5.1 or newer 23:05:47 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1BCF3.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:06:28 <fonsinchen> thanks 23:07:56 <SpComb> DaleStan: http://projects.qmsk.net/irclogs2/trac/ticket/13#comment:1 23:08:43 *** andythenorth [~andy@host81-155-149-33.range81-155.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 23:14:37 *** Chrill [~chrischri@80.216.60.117] has joined #openttd 23:16:58 <DaleStan> Oh. I suppose searching the bugs might have been a good idea. 23:20:00 <petern> road vehicle list window is... not right 23:21:18 <DaleStan> How ... descriptive. 23:21:31 <Chrill> OH! 23:21:33 <Chrill> I GET IT!! 23:21:42 <Chrill> thats why peterT always reminds of someone else on the forums 23:21:44 <Chrill> there's a petern 23:21:59 <Chrill> I've been wondering for weeks :( 23:22:30 <frosch123> T and N is kind of important :p 23:22:53 <Chrill> yes, I agree 23:23:04 <Chrill> or DaleStan would be DaleSnat 23:23:33 <SmatZ> peter1138 would be more distinguishable :) 23:23:56 <frosch123> except petert changes to peter1337 23:24:05 <SmatZ> hehe 23:24:21 <Chrill> well you never know, frosch123.. 23:25:35 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: Tsch?ss] 23:27:40 <frosch123> however, only fools append numbers to their nicknames 23:28:29 <Chrill> I really agree with you there 23:28:32 <SmatZ> :-) 23:28:45 *** SmatZ_ [~smatz@a40-prg1-22-216.static.adsl.vol.cz] has joined #openttd 23:28:53 <SmatZ_> what about underscores? 23:29:05 <Chrill> that's just proof of a bad internet connection 23:29:35 <frosch123> SmatZ: they are a symbol of masculinity 23:29:41 <SmatZ_> :-D 23:29:47 *** SmatZ_ [~smatz@a40-prg1-22-216.static.adsl.vol.cz] has left #openttd [Konversation terminated!] 23:30:03 <frosch123> esp. with 4+ underscores 23:30:17 <Chrill> SmatZ______ 23:30:18 <SmatZ> hehe 23:30:22 <Chrill> no 23:30:24 <Chrill> not masculine 23:30:36 <Chrill> perhaps SmatZ_1_2_3_4_5_ 23:30:42 <SmatZ> :) 23:31:24 <frosch123> weird idea of an tattoo 23:32:21 *** LadyHawk [LadyHawk@78-105-102-180.zone3.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 23:32:32 *** Tegal [~tegal@115-64-156-58.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 23:33:33 *** fonsinchen [~alve@brln-4dba93b7.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:38:09 *** ecke [~ecke@188.75.128.2] has joined #openttd 23:39:54 *** matsebc [~matsebc@201.251.16.72] has joined #openttd 23:40:08 <matsebc> Hallo, got a question, not sure this is the proper place to ask 23:40:23 <matsebc> any idea why openttd for iphone is not on the Itunes store? 23:40:36 <Chrill> well, it's not an approved app 23:40:37 <Rubidium> got an answer for that somewhere 23:40:47 <matsebc> Chrill: but any particular reason? 23:40:50 <Chrill> well 23:40:56 <Chrill> have we tried to have it added, Rubidium? 23:41:03 <Rubidium> Chrill: no 23:41:10 <Rubidium> oh, my answer is for Steam 23:41:13 <Chrill> thats one reason :P 23:41:25 <matsebc> Chrill: ah ok thanks, so it's not like it uses some private API or whatnot ?? 23:41:46 <matsebc> (which is why some apps are not on the app store) 23:41:53 <Rubidium> it's more like we have no Mac developer 23:42:06 <Rubidium> and we don't like charging people for something that's free 23:42:36 <matsebc> Rubidium: I hear ya 23:42:49 <matsebc> you can publish free apps on the itunes store :) 23:43:08 <matsebc> you would however have to spend 100 bucks to get a developer's license though 23:43:24 <Chrill> ask for donations for that, would probably get there 23:43:38 <Rubidium> Chrill: but without a developer it's still pointless 23:43:45 <Chrill> yeah, true 23:43:52 <Chrill> then again, i dont use the iphone :P 23:44:06 <Rubidium> even so, for OpenTTD to be useful we need to distribute also the data files, which aren't ours. As such it'd be illegal 23:44:26 <Chrill> We're not that far away from OpenGFX and SFX finishing, though 23:44:33 <Chrill> the aim is for both in 0.8, yes? 23:44:51 <Rubidium> true, but still some months from the first release that supports OpenSFX 23:49:12 *** ecke [~ecke@188.75.128.2] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:49:16 <Terkhen> good night 23:49:18 *** Terkhen [~Terkhen@220.69.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Quit: ...] 23:51:28 *** KingJ [~KingJ-OFT@oops.i.forgot.to.set.my.hostmask.kingj.net] has joined #openttd 23:53:00 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:53:05 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@89.246.198.21] has joined #openttd 23:55:06 <Rubidium> anyhow, as I said a iPhone port is probably not going to happen as long as there is no Apple developer; proper testing requires an Apple and an iPhone. Something none of the current developers have. The binaries are compiled by compiling them on Linux and *hoping* they work on OSX 23:56:59 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF92AC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 23:57:22 <frosch123> hmm, does "protected" apply in both directions of the class hierarchy :o 23:57:40 <frosch123> (e.g. after dynamic_cast) 23:58:20 <Rubidium> how to do that trick for iPhones I don't know, but testing those is quite a bit harder because you either need to jailbreak them or need to sign them, but I've got no clue how to do either of them 23:58:34 <Rubidium> nor an actual iPhone 23:59:16 <SmatZ> frosch123: how do you mean? 23:59:58 <SmatZ> predecessor doesn't know about successor's protected variables 23:59:59 <Rubidium> nor will I even acquire/accept such a thing that may only run what some self-appointed ruler