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07:55:06 <peter1138> oh, and yapf is recommended for ships now? 07:56:20 <peter1138> hmm, right, new passengers want to take the new route, existing passengers with the old route still want to take the (non-existant) old route :S 07:57:13 <dihedral> SmatZ, :-) 07:57:20 <dihedral> i noticed i am missing a highlight 07:58:38 <dihedral> peter1138, :-D 08:01:33 <peter1138> hello? 08:02:27 <peter1138> when did yapf get preferred for ships? 08:03:24 <dihedral> not that long ago 08:03:38 <dihedral> r2253<something> 08:03:39 <planetmaker> peter1138: about one, two weeks ago or so 08:04:02 <dihedral> hello pm :-) 08:04:20 *** dfox [~dfox@ip-94-113-17-246.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 08:04:33 <planetmaker> @commit 22352 08:04:33 <DorpsGek> planetmaker: Commit by smatz :: r22352 /trunk/src (lang/english.txt table/settings.ini) (2011-04-19 18:47:36 UTC) 08:04:34 <DorpsGek> planetmaker: -Change: make YAPF the default pathfinder for ships, don't discourage players from using it 08:05:09 <planetmaker> @commit 22350 08:05:09 <DorpsGek> planetmaker: Commit by smatz :: r22350 /trunk/src/pathfinder/yapf (3 files) (2011-04-19 18:12:47 UTC) 08:05:10 <DorpsGek> planetmaker: -Change: make YAPF hash tables much smaller, it should improve performance significantly (about 15%) 08:05:12 <dihedral> that's what i meant ^^ 08:05:18 <peter1138> heh 08:05:34 <peter1138> also, yacd seems to prefer my 15 passenger 40km/h busses over my 100 passenger 32km/h ship :( 08:06:07 <planetmaker> speed plays a role; you can somehow tweak the balancing in the cfg (but not via rcon) 08:06:32 <peter1138> yes but 'bandwidth' should be more important 08:06:43 <Terkhen> tourists should prefer the ship, it has better views :) 08:06:43 <dihedral> general speed plays a role, or time taken to travel from A to B? 08:06:47 <dihedral> which could make a huge difference 08:07:01 <peter1138> yeah, the bus is quicker, for 15 passengers 08:07:04 <dihedral> lol Terkhen :-) 08:07:08 <peter1138> but for 100 passengers, the ship owns it 08:07:35 <dihedral> peter1138, try to make the bus route longer, so the ship would arrive first :-) 08:07:41 <dihedral> and see what that thing does 08:11:41 <peter1138> can't really, it's a short internal hop in a town 08:12:06 <Markk> And you have boats? 08:12:08 <Markk> o.O 08:12:20 <peter1138> problem was the town's docks were originally on the south coast 08:12:26 <peter1138> which has a little bus stop 08:12:40 <peter1138> the town then got a station in the town centre 08:13:01 <peter1138> the bus cannot cope with the volume of traffic from the station to the docks 08:13:20 <peter1138> so they (heh!) built a new docks to the east, attached to the station 08:13:50 <peter1138> the ship now goes only to the east docks 08:14:04 <peter1138> but passengers still wait for the bus to the old docks 08:15:27 <peter1138> if i make the ship go via the old docks, then every passenger wants to go via the bus again 08:15:31 <peter1138> because that bus is faster 08:15:39 <peter1138> even though they have to wait months for the bus 08:15:49 <LordAro> moin 08:16:29 <peter1138> maybe i should be telling michi this :p 08:17:24 <Terkhen> so it does not take station ratings into account? 08:17:35 <LordAro> gah, i compile yacd v1.0, only to find that 1.1 is out :L 08:17:48 <Terkhen> there is a binary for 1.1 IIRC 08:22:23 <peter1138> gah, i have £14k left :p 08:22:40 <peter1138> my loan is maxed out :S 08:23:00 <LordAro> Terkhen: ubuntu ;) 08:23:46 <Terkhen> peter1138: yacd is quite good at making you go bankrupt :P 08:24:05 <peter1138> yeah 08:24:15 <LordAro> how to tidy up a messed up mercurial clone? hg revert --all still leaves all the .orig and .rej files... 08:24:16 <peter1138> i'm starting to make a profit now 08:24:28 <Terkhen> I failed my first two games, I still have to start a third one 08:24:36 <peter1138> i'm using tai as well, so there's not that many passengers either 08:24:41 <Terkhen> LordAro: hg purge will remove all unversioned files 08:24:47 <Terkhen> IIRC it is an extension, though 08:24:58 <Terkhen> google to see how to enable it 08:25:17 <Terkhen> something like "purge =" in your .hgrc under [extension], probably 08:27:16 <LordAro> *[extensions] ;) 08:28:40 <LordAro> thanks 08:28:51 <LordAro> it worked :) 08:32:16 *** FloSoft [bouncer@78.46.208.242] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:43:59 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host41-233-dynamic.14-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 08:44:37 *** pugi [~pugi@p4FCC321D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: I reject your reality and substitute my own] 08:44:53 <Wolf01> hello 08:51:46 <Terkhen> hi Wolf01 08:55:15 * LordAro think he's messed up his mq repo again... 08:57:36 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@88.130.179.179] has joined #openttd 08:58:28 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1994B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 08:59:22 <LordAro> also, yacd is easy, why is everyone finding it so hard? 08:59:41 <Terkhen> did you remember to add the aditional files from yacd to mercurial? 08:59:49 <Terkhen> or better, use hg qimport 09:00:06 <Terkhen> although I'm not sure if that will work from git to hg 09:01:10 *** a1270 [~a1270@72-24-233-98.cpe.cableone.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:01:26 *** pugi [~pugi@p4FCC321D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 09:02:50 <LordAro> Terkhen: not yacd, my readme project :) 09:03:18 *** ZirconiumX [561b9caa@ircip3.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 09:03:34 * ZirconiumX comes in waving a Union Jack 09:04:09 <ZirconiumX> Well, you can't help some things 09:04:37 <Ammler> Terkhen: it does, it is even recommended to use git patches for hg 09:04:45 <Terkhen> ok 09:07:42 *** wahyu [~wahyu@123.255.201.250] has joined #openttd 09:07:48 <Wolf01> bah, I was thinking about continue the development of my NADP, but I don't have any idea :( 09:08:19 <planetmaker> napd? 09:08:31 <Wolf01> not another daylength patch 09:10:08 <wahyu> hi all, I use Open TTd and using normal train. But at the year 2030 all the locomptive were extinct. All my trains are old and need urgent replacing. What should I do then? Any idea, anybody? 09:10:58 <Ammler> replace with maglev 09:10:59 <Wolf01> switch to maglev or use a newgrf or, last but not least, turn off the vehicle expiring 09:11:47 <Wolf01> the grf thing needs a new game 09:11:56 <wahyu> how to replace maglev? 09:12:18 <wahyu> can I load new grf while the game runs? or should I star a new one? 09:12:32 <Terkhen> you should start a new one 09:12:35 <Terkhen> wahyu: http://wiki.openttd.org/Types_of_railway 09:13:11 *** perk11 [~perk11@81.17.157.195] has joined #openttd 09:13:30 * LordAro has sorted mq repo 09:14:09 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 09:17:23 <wahyu> terkhen: I am new on this game. what grf should I take before playing the game. so that I could use normal train first and could upgrade to some rail type anytime the rail type release/ launch? 09:17:49 <Terkhen> you don't need any newgrfs for that, the default trains already have different types 09:17:53 <Terkhen> check the wiki page I pasted to you 09:18:11 *** DDR [~DDR@d142-179-79-208.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Quit: In democracy it's your vote that counts; In feudalism it's your count that votes. - Mogens Jallberg] 09:23:19 <wahyu> terkhen : when I click on the rail construction button on my game. it does not show any choices of rails I could take (like the wiki page shows). It only have one rail type. 09:23:37 <V453000> yes, others come available later 09:23:57 <V453000> it is written on the wiki page after all 09:24:04 <wahyu> or maybe my open ttd is the older version? 09:24:08 <Terkhen> if you are past the dates mentioned in the wiki you should check your newgrf selection; if you are not experienced with the game you should start by playing without any newgrf 09:24:09 <V453000> no 09:24:34 <Terkhen> you should wait until you know how to play the standard game to try newgrfs 09:25:25 <V453000> or see what is the newgrf content, so you do not expect for example monorail somewhere where it isnt (most newgrfs dont have it 09:25:47 <LordAro> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=54250 <-- same person, btw 09:26:31 <wahyu> LordAro, yes it's me :P 09:27:20 <V453000> to stop trains dying out, just use "vehicles never expire: on" in the vehicles menu 09:27:21 <dihedral> i do not see how that could highlight me!! 09:27:44 <ZirconiumX> OpenTTD version 1 <-- Nonexistent 09:27:47 *** dfox [~dfox@ip-94-113-17-246.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:28:48 <wahyu> V453000, oke I'll use this first while I study further just like terkhen advised me before. 09:29:21 *** perk11 [~perk11@81.17.157.195] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 09:30:09 <wahyu> anybody knows, where should I donwload new version of Open TTD, the newer version. i use version 1. 09:30:22 <planetmaker> what about openttd.org? 09:32:50 <V453000> google is your friend 09:32:52 <V453000> or should be ... 09:35:33 *** wahyu [~wahyu@123.255.201.250] has quit [Quit: Bye for now!] 09:41:22 *** DayDreamer [~DayDreame@94.142.234.1] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:43:16 *** DayDreamer [~DayDreame@94.142.234.1] has joined #openttd 09:43:34 *** DayDreamer [~DayDreame@94.142.234.1] has left #openttd [] 10:07:40 *** yorick [~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:20:56 *** Juo [~Juo@cpc16-lewi15-2-0-cust395.2-4.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 10:27:01 *** ZirconiumX [561b9caa@ircip3.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 10:32:54 *** a1270 [~a1270@72-24-233-98.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #openttd 10:34:32 *** Adambean [AdamR@82.hosts.reece-eu.net] has joined #openttd 10:43:20 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:44:00 *** perk11 [~perk11@81.17.157.195] has joined #openttd 10:54:57 *** Intexon^ [~Intexon@blk-222-147-135.eastlink.ca] has joined #openttd 11:00:32 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@port-92-195-225-153.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 11:01:04 *** enr1x [~kiike@62.57.225.29.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #openttd 11:03:56 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 11:06:21 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-58-231.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:11:50 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.8.73.122] has joined #openttd 11:12:36 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B75F4A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:13:03 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B75F4A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:19:20 *** Devroush [~dennis@ip-83-134-178-53.dsl.scarlet.be] has joined #openttd 11:26:55 *** Intexon^ [~Intexon@blk-222-147-135.eastlink.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:27:35 *** Xaroth [~Xaroth@86.92.135.101] has joined #openttd 11:34:16 *** Xaroth_ [~Xaroth@86.92.135.101] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:39:53 *** Eddi|zuHause3 [~johekr@p54B75F4A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:39:53 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B75F4A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:42:52 *** sla_ro|master [~slaco@95.76.27.160] has joined #openttd 11:48:03 <Terkhen> yacd makes me wish that default primary industries could cluster 11:49:42 <Ammler> ogfx+ :-P 11:50:32 <V453000> opengfx+ industries cluster? :o 11:50:44 <Terkhen> no 11:50:56 <Ammler> yes, well Terken needs to implement it first 11:51:02 <Ammler> +h 11:51:02 <V453000> :P 11:51:16 <V453000> switchable I hope 11:51:18 <Terkhen> I just started a new game with FIRS :) 11:51:39 <Ammler> with yacd? 11:51:39 <Terkhen> everything in ogfx+ industries is switchable, but clustering sounds complicated to implement :P 11:51:55 <Ammler> yacd and firs sounds quite complicated 11:52:05 <Terkhen> if they cluster I have an easier time sending all cargo of the same time to a central station 11:52:12 *** ecke [~ecke@188.75.130.59] has joined #openttd 11:52:26 <Terkhen> then I can redistribute the to the different destinations from there 11:52:35 <Terkhen> s/the/it/ 11:53:33 <V453000> hm, what about to test yacd on our .dev? :) 11:54:29 <Ammler> no bins yet 11:55:07 <Ammler> yacd should work for sp first, imo 11:55:18 <Ammler> then you can start to test also MP 11:55:19 <V453000> okay :) 11:55:57 <Ammler> I guess, that is the plan from michi_cc, when he likes to provide bins 11:58:01 *** perk11 [~perk11@81.17.157.195] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 12:02:31 *** Neon [~Neon@dslb-094-219-001-206.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 12:14:36 *** DanMacK [~DanMacK@bas8-london14-1279731927.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #openttd 12:14:44 <DanMacK> Hey all 12:20:47 <Terkhen> hi DanMacK 12:23:46 *** Devroush [~dennis@ip-83-134-178-53.dsl.scarlet.be] has quit [] 12:37:19 *** DoubleYou [~jkuckartz@ppp118-209-86-17.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:40:00 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:31cd:d5a5:8d01:c431] has joined #openttd 12:40:03 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 12:44:39 <V453000> "local destinations" in yacd mean within the town? 12:47:57 <planetmaker> yes 12:51:56 *** Eddi|zuHause3 is now known as Eddi|zuHause 12:52:07 <Eddi|zuHause> ... i haven't a clue what "other destinations" means though... 12:52:51 <DanMacK> OK... I need a JASC palette file... 12:53:10 *** amkoroew1 [~Heinz@p5B104A7B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 12:53:15 <planetmaker> I don't *know* either, but an idea is, Eddi|zuHause , that it's that cargo which got changed to 'any' destination or alike 12:58:31 *** amkoroew [~Heinz@p5B103D1A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:01:41 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1994B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:04:26 *** Markavian [~Markavian@187.35-50-210.static.dsl.mel.iprimus.net.au] has joined #openttd 13:17:33 *** Lakie [~Lakie@82.152.250.119] has joined #openttd 13:19:30 *** KopjeKoffie [~Maarten@c29061.upc-c.chello.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 13:27:05 *** Markavian [~Markavian@187.35-50-210.static.dsl.mel.iprimus.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:27:40 *** DanMacK [~DanMacK@bas8-london14-1279731927.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Quit: Bye for now!] 13:27:41 <Belugas> hello 13:28:21 <Lakie> Hi Belugas 13:28:44 <planetmaker> hi Lakie & Belugas 13:28:54 <Lakie> Hi planetmaker 13:29:52 <Lakie> I've been wondering, for tenders of steamers is it best to use a generic 'tender wagon' and use livery overrides or to use a trimmed down copy of the engine itself? 13:32:02 <Belugas> hi to you too mister make of planet :) 13:37:16 *** DOUK [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-107-36.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 13:43:46 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1994B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 13:43:50 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:43:57 *** douknoukem [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-107-36.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:44:44 *** TWerkhoven [~twerkhove@cpc14-linl7-2-0-cust28.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 13:50:57 <planetmaker> could someone please give me a screenshot of all bridge types from toyland climate in TTD? 13:52:54 <planetmaker> http://devs.openttd.org/~planetmaker/patches/toyland_bridges_trunk.png <-- this is the approx idea :-) 13:54:27 <TWerkhoven> opengfx or original gfx? 13:54:40 <planetmaker> TTD has no choice of base sets 13:54:49 <Lakie> You mean from TTD / TTDPatch? 13:54:53 <planetmaker> I mean the original game, yes ^ 13:55:09 <planetmaker> I've no problem creating them from OpenTTD myself ;-) 13:55:35 <planetmaker> I wonder about the colours 13:55:36 <Lakie> Don't have any version of TTD installed really, sorry. 13:55:48 <planetmaker> they look too uniformily coloured 13:55:56 <planetmaker> also not ttdp? 13:56:01 <Lakie> Nope 13:56:04 <planetmaker> he 13:56:07 <TWerkhoven> me either 13:56:19 <planetmaker> I have... crashing in the main menu :-P 13:56:30 <Terkhen> does it crash with dosbox too? 13:56:41 <planetmaker> I use wine 13:56:45 <Lakie> Heh, depends on OS' and such 13:57:12 <Terkhen> strange, it has platinum rank on appdb 13:57:13 <Lakie> The white bridge looks a bit wron in the screenshot, planetmaker 13:57:20 <TWerkhoven> but wouldnt the bridges in ottd look identical to original ttd when using the standard gfx set? 13:57:34 <planetmaker> Lakie: yes. That's what got me there in the first place 13:57:36 <Terkhen> TWerkhoven: they should, unless there is a bug in openttd 13:57:42 <Terkhen> which is probably the point of his request 13:57:45 <planetmaker> TWerkhoven: they should, yes 13:58:09 <Terkhen> planetmaker: appdb mentions that it does not work in full screen 13:58:44 <Ammler> [15:54] <planetmaker> TTD has no choice of base sets <-- we release a ttdp version of opengfx :-) 13:58:59 <Terkhen> is that tested in TTD? 13:59:08 <Ammler> yep 13:59:46 <planetmaker> :-) 13:59:55 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d5152B25B.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 14:00:02 <planetmaker> Ammler: I know... but I wanted to keep the confusion low 14:00:07 <Ammler> planetmaker: a screen with ogfx bridges is useless? 14:00:19 <planetmaker> I guess, yes 14:00:19 <Ammler> because I have no ttd with original set 14:00:47 <planetmaker> though... might be interesting, too 14:00:52 * TWerkhoven is looking through old archived folders 14:01:31 <planetmaker> btw, Terkhen : OpenTTD 0.6.0 looks the same as my screenshots already shown 14:01:48 <planetmaker> and 0.2.0 doesn't start for me... testing others 14:02:39 <planetmaker> bah. 0.3.0 comes with an installer and calls itself Open Transport Tycoon 14:02:50 <Terkhen> then either I did not manage to play until I built a bridge or my eyes were already perceiving everything wrong at that point 14:03:00 <Ammler> hmm, r633 is old :-) 14:03:08 <planetmaker> :-) 14:03:34 <Lakie> The colours are pretty uniform in TTDPatch also, planetmaker 14:03:39 <Ammler> no, it isn't 14:04:01 <planetmaker> hm, thanks, Lakie 14:04:10 <planetmaker> I wonder if that's good or bad :-) 14:04:26 <Lakie> Depends on point of view, I guess 14:04:27 <planetmaker> or if that's related to the three unused recolour sprites in the base sets 14:04:33 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 14:05:21 <planetmaker> Lakie: I mostly wonder as it makes indistinguishable those bridge types which usually are subject to re-colouring 14:05:39 <planetmaker> like suspension and girder steel 14:05:45 <Lakie> Thats true 14:06:01 <Lakie> I'm not sure about in stock ttd, but I imagine it'll be the same roughly 14:06:19 <Terkhen> the colour of the grounds looks quite wrong IMO 14:06:27 <Terkhen> but with opengfx it looks fine 14:06:40 *** Absurd-Mind [~peter@p54958F55.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 14:06:41 <planetmaker> that's probably wanted, if you look at the base set sprites, Terkhen 14:06:53 <planetmaker> toyland has its separate sprites there 14:07:03 <planetmaker> and un-re-coloured they look like that 14:07:30 <Terkhen> hmm... then it makes no sense :P 14:07:54 <planetmaker> what does with toyland colours? ;-) 14:08:34 <Ammler> I have "Fatal nforenum error!" with ogfx 14:08:44 <Lakie> You would have thought toyland would just replace those recolour maps with its own versions 14:08:46 <planetmaker> hm, yes, sorry. Let me fix it 14:09:43 <planetmaker> pull 14:09:51 <planetmaker> I forgot to push the fix. I had it for hours ;-) 14:10:57 <Ammler> hmm, ogfx doesn't have toyland bridges, does it? 14:11:10 <planetmaker> it doesn't 14:11:14 <planetmaker> it uses the same 14:11:21 <Ammler> so a screen with it is useless, right :-) 14:11:43 <planetmaker> not quite; maybe a re-colouring would show 14:12:03 <Ammler> maybe I find somewhere the original graphcis 14:14:10 <Ammler> you still need a screen? 14:14:31 *** Devroush [~dennis@178-119-81-33.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 14:15:19 <planetmaker> it would be interesting to have it confirmed with somewhat vanilla TTD, yes 14:24:52 <Ammler> http://www.openttdcoop.org/ammler/ttdp-ogfx.png | http://www.openttdcoop.org/ammler/ttdp-orig.png 14:25:07 <Ammler> planetmaker: that what you like ^ ? 14:25:49 <planetmaker> honestly? Neither. 14:26:00 <V453000> now tell me which is more awesome! TOYLAND :) 14:26:01 <planetmaker> But thanks for those screenshots :-) 14:26:03 <Ammler> ttdp r2349 14:26:12 <Ammler> so what you need? 14:26:20 <planetmaker> They tell me that it's not an OpenTTD bug with the colours 14:26:29 <planetmaker> You gave me what I needed, thanks :-) 14:26:40 <Ammler> ah, but you don't like it :-) 14:26:47 <planetmaker> But I don't really like... yes :-) 14:27:25 *** Br33z4hSlut5 [~static.kp@92.68.154.34] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:27:32 <Ammler> I made some symlinks, so in future it should be easy to switch baseset on ttdp 14:27:37 <planetmaker> cool 14:28:05 <Ammler> and it needs around 5 times longer to start with opengfx 14:28:17 <V453000> ttdp didnt have opengfx available? 14:28:36 <planetmaker> he, interesting 14:28:40 <Ammler> V453000: we release a ttdp version since quite some time already 14:28:44 <planetmaker> V453000: there's a version ^ 14:29:04 <V453000> I was just interested, not that i care much :) 14:29:19 <V453000> some ttdp ... :p 14:29:23 <planetmaker> because we can, of course ;-) 14:29:25 <Ammler> well, I guess you can count those users with one hand 14:29:26 <V453000> anyway, I will be going, cya 14:29:32 <V453000> :D 14:29:33 <V453000> k 14:29:33 <planetmaker> enjoy 14:32:24 <planetmaker> so, I guess I'll keep the pink toyland style 14:32:34 <planetmaker> or at least that's something separate 14:32:56 <planetmaker> thanks for the help Lakie and Ammler 14:33:20 <planetmaker> and also Terkhen :-) 14:33:24 <Ammler> any other ttdp screen you need :-P 14:33:31 <planetmaker> not currently 14:33:32 <Lakie> Heh 15:03:40 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: planetmaker * r22378 /trunk/src/table/bridge_land.h: -Fix: The recolouring scheme applied to the silicon bridge recoloured too much 15:04:13 *** Doorslammer [770b0367@ircip3.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 15:04:45 *** pugi [~pugi@p4FCC321D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:09:07 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: planetmaker * r22379 /trunk/media/extra_grf/ (fix_graphics.nfo fix_graphics.png): -Fix: Not all pixels which need recolouring were actually in the proper colour 15:09:41 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: planetmaker * r22380 /trunk/bin/data/ (openttd.grf orig_dos.obg orig_dos_de.obg orig_win.obg): -Fix: Update openttd.grf and the base set description files accordingly 15:17:10 *** pugi [~pugi@p4FCC53E7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:25:18 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@88.130.185.66] has joined #openttd 15:26:26 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: planetmaker * r22381 /trunk/src/ (49 files in 2 dirs): -Codechange: It's called 'steel', not 'steele' 15:27:04 <planetmaker> now everything will re-compile :-P 15:27:57 <Terkhen> wow, quite a big typo :) 15:28:13 <planetmaker> string name ;-) 15:31:06 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@88.130.179.179] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:51:38 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-72-43-171-87.nyc.biz.rr.com] has joined #openttd 15:52:14 *** romazoon [romazoon@82-108.2-85.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #openttd 15:55:30 *** Biolunar [~mahdi@blfd-4d08334f.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 15:56:36 *** Doorslammer [770b0367@ircip3.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 16:09:19 *** ZirconiumX [561b9caa@ircip4.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 16:10:17 <ZirconiumX> hello all 16:10:53 *** ZirconiumX [561b9caa@ircip4.mibbit.com] has quit [] 16:12:19 *** ZirconiumX [~chatzilla@cpc2-derb12-2-0-cust169.8-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 16:12:37 <ZirconiumX> Back to ChatZIlla 16:12:51 <ZirconiumX> Hopefully no-one will hack me 16:14:39 <Eddi|zuHause> was that a challenge? 16:15:04 <ZirconiumX> ? 16:15:41 <planetmaker> Eddi|zuHause: sounds like, yes 16:15:58 *** douknoukem [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-107-36.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 16:16:05 <ZirconiumX> not really 16:17:01 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1994B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:18:00 *** ZirconiumX [~chatzilla@cpc2-derb12-2-0-cust169.8-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86.1 [Firefox 3.6.16/20110319135224]] 16:18:02 *** DOUK [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-107-36.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:19:01 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1994B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:23:09 *** enr1x [~kiike@62.57.225.29.dyn.user.ono.com] has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:27:19 <michi_cc> Eddi|zuHause: "other destinations" is the default bucket where stuff gets account as when no other links applies, for example passengers to headquarters or if no link is usable because acceptance changed but the destinations wheren't updated yet. It's there so I can skip all the if list is empty stuff. 16:29:00 *** KouDy [~KouDy@ip-86-49-123-198.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 16:31:19 <michi_cc> peter1138: The actual links are updated immediately, but the cached next hop info in the cargo packets is updated in chunks over time to prevent noticeable pauses. Updates are only ever done when a vehicle actually arrives, so the display might take some time to refresh. 16:32:33 <michi_cc> peter1138: And for your ship situation: The routing does take cargo waiting on a route link into account. For your case, increase pf.yapf.route_" target="_blank">pf.yapf.route_station_waiting_factor (to penalize waiting cargo more) and/or decrease pf.yapf.route_" target="_blank">pf.yapf.route_travel_time_factor (to make speed count less). Both settinsg can be chaned in the in-game console. 16:32:34 <peter1138> it never did 16:34:01 <michi_cc> Got a save that shows it/instructions to reproduce? 16:34:15 <peter1138> sadly, no 16:40:16 *** TheMask96 [martijn@sloth.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:43:21 *** douknoukem [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-107-36.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:43:28 <peter1138> hmm, changed the orders on a ship and it still loaded with passengers for the old orders :( 16:44:06 *** Pulec [~pulec@static-cl093181068250.unet.cz] has joined #openttd 16:46:08 <peter1138> and... didn't unload 16:46:18 <peter1138> so yeah, changing orders around doesn't work as expected, afaics 16:46:37 <romazoon> but if you use a unload order it shoudl be fine, isn t it? 16:47:05 <peter1138> i forced the ship to unload, yes 16:47:06 *** TheMask96 [martijn@greed.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 16:47:28 <peter1138> i guess that might be a byproduct of the old "don't unload at the station you loaded from" code 16:47:36 <peter1138> which probably isn't necessary with cargodest 16:47:57 <peter1138> (it shouldn't've loaded in the first place, mind you) 16:49:52 <michi_cc> Changing orders is supposed to invalidate the next hop, if you can give me a description what you did exactly (and maybe even a save), that would be great. 16:54:55 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@fuco.sks3.muni.cz] has quit [Quit: Quit] 16:55:06 *** Fuco[x] [~dota.keys@server.dasnet.cz] has joined #openttd 16:58:16 *** flitz [~me@dslb-188-107-131-042.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 16:58:26 <flitz> hiho 16:59:39 <flitz> I've got a weird problem: I defined a command and called it, it executes but when DoCommand(...) wants to return a result, the application crashes 17:00:20 <flitz> gdb says "0x00000000 in ?? ()", like there is some stack inconsistency and it can't retrieve the program counter or something 17:00:29 <Rubidium> wrong callback? 17:00:42 <Yexo> please upload a patch, otherwise it'll be come random guesswork 17:08:37 *** Netsplit kinetic.oftc.net <-> reticulum.oftc.net quits: Cursarion, Wolf01, luckz, TWerkhoven, @DorpsGek, lugo, Vadtec, Andel, Rubidium, Progman, (+88 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 17:09:15 *** Netsplit over, joins: Born_Acorn, @orudge, raidghost, Noldo_, blathijs, snorre, @DorpsGek, welterde, Strid_, luckz (+53 more) 17:09:27 *** Netsplit over, joins: romazoon, JVassie, welshdragon, SpComb^_, Pulec, Progman, Devroush, Neon, sla_ro|master, Xaroth (+25 more) 17:09:27 *** mode/#openttd [+v Terkhen] by ChanServ 17:09:43 *** mode/#openttd [+v planetmaker] by ChanServ 17:10:04 <Yexo> flitz: might be unrelated, but in general you should call DoCommandP, not DoCommand (unless it's from another command) 17:10:43 *** Chris_Booth is now known as Guest3648 17:11:42 *** Netsplit reticulum.oftc.net <-> kilo.oftc.net quits: Cursarion, rasco 17:11:42 <flitz> Yexo: ok. I also just tested it and called cmd_build_vehicle as an example from DoCommand() and caller stack of the command function looked good 17:12:12 <flitz> if I do the same for my own command, the caller stack is zero, don't see the reason why right now 17:13:07 *** Netsplit over, joins: rasco, Cursarion 17:13:49 <Yexo> again, can you upload your patch as it is now? 17:17:27 <flitz> if I just "svn diff > somefile.patch" and upload that, it would be enough, right ? 17:17:45 <planetmaker> if you added new files, then not 17:17:52 <Eddi|zuHause> hm... missing a boat for delivering 1-5 crates of supplies :p 17:19:11 <flitz> planetmaker: I "svn add"ed them already 17:19:24 <planetmaker> :-) 17:20:05 <Yexo> yes, that would be enough 17:20:10 <flitz> ok :) 17:23:48 <flitz> I uploaded it on the forum: http://www.tt-forums.net/download/file.php?id=144036 17:24:15 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d5152B25B.access.telenet.be] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:25:01 <Yexo> which call causes the crash? 17:26:27 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f7313.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 17:26:51 <flitz> its the aaa_mygui.cpp:235 - DoCommand(7232, 988, 0, DC_EXEC, CMD_BUILD_TEMPLATE_VEHICLE); 17:27:27 <flitz> but this command still executes, its only that the DoCommand() function has a 0-parent frame when it wants to return 17:30:24 <flitz> its definitely after my own command got called in the non-test case, afterwards the return value is zeroed 17:30:46 *** LordAro [~kvirc@host86-149-31-152.range86-149.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:31:31 *** Absurd-Mind [~peter@p54958F55.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:31:58 <flitz> ouch! I've got it ... 17:32:25 <Rubidium> + TemplateVehicle **ret; 17:32:33 <Rubidium> + *ret = tv; 17:32:35 <flitz> yes 17:32:35 <Rubidium> ? 17:32:57 <Rubidium> passing pointers to/from commands is definitely a no-go 17:32:59 <flitz> this doesn't make sense, taking it out solves it 17:33:45 <flitz> I took this idea from "CommandCost CmdBuildRailVehicle(TileIndex tile, DoCommandFlag flags, const Engine *e, uint16 data, Vehicle **ret)" in train_cmd.cpp 17:33:46 <Rubidium> well, you're overwriting "random" memory 17:34:10 <flitz> I know, it is still there only by accident, didn't see it before 17:34:11 <Rubidium> then that's not really a command, but more a helper 17:34:30 *** LordAro [~kvirc@host86-149-31-152.range86-149.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 17:35:11 <Rubidium> (the CmdBuildRailVehicle that is) 17:35:26 <flitz> the **ret value was only a left-over, I know that I shouldn't write to uninitialized pointers ;) 17:36:03 <flitz> and yep, the cmdbuildrailvehicle is only called from within CmdBuildVehicle (which is a real command) 17:37:56 <flitz> I better take this off the forum again, before anybody sees it... 17:43:00 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-145-103.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 17:46:42 *** douknoukem [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-107-36.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 17:46:57 *** DOUK [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-107-36.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 17:46:58 *** DOUK [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-107-36.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [] 17:47:02 *** douknoukem [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-107-36.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [] 17:47:19 *** douknoukem [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-107-36.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 17:49:09 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@port-92-195-225-153.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:56:30 *** Wolfsherz [~Wolfsherz@p57A6E5B9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:58:39 *** Wolfsherz [~Wolfsherz@p57A6E5B9.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 18:00:23 <LordAro> ooh! natty is out 18:06:03 <Rubidium> booh! 18:07:48 *** DDR [~DDR@d142-179-79-208.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 18:08:39 <Lakie> Um, when I set a train with "0B \wx955" why do I get a train with 968 power ingame? 18:09:04 <Rubidium> 955 imperial hp = 968 metric hp? 18:09:10 <Lakie> Probably 18:09:20 <Lakie> I keep forgetting about imperial and metrics.. 18:09:48 <Rubidium> yay... WolframAlpha confirms the plausibility of my hypothesis ;) 18:09:56 <Lakie> Hehe 18:11:06 <supermop> One Emperor = 1.014 metric Heads of State? 18:15:36 *** KouDy [~KouDy@ip-86-49-123-198.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:20:26 *** Juo [~Juo@cpc16-lewi15-2-0-cust395.2-4.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: Juo] 18:20:30 *** KouDy [~KouDy@ip-86-49-123-198.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 18:34:48 *** Intexon^ [~Intexon@blk-222-147-135.eastlink.ca] has joined #openttd 18:37:01 *** Twerkhoven[L] [~twerkhove@cpc14-linl7-2-0-cust28.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 18:39:09 *** Adambean [AdamR@82.hosts.reece-eu.net] has quit [Quit: Gone fishing] 18:42:22 *** flitz [~me@dslb-188-107-131-042.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: flitz] 18:48:39 *** Doorslammer [770b0367@ircip1.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 18:51:37 <peter1138> Lakie, blame MB :p 18:53:57 *** Doorslammer [770b0367@ircip1.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 19:10:30 *** DDR [~DDR@d142-179-79-208.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:11:19 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-72-43-171-87.nyc.biz.rr.com] has quit [Quit: supermop] 19:12:46 *** elmz [~elmz@184.213-167-126.customer.lyse.net] has joined #openttd 19:13:16 *** elmz [~elmz@184.213-167-126.customer.lyse.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:13:16 *** elmz [~elmz@184.213-167-126.customer.lyse.net] has joined #openttd 19:14:33 *** elmz [~elmz@184.213-167-126.customer.lyse.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:14:47 *** elmz [~elmz@184.213-167-126.customer.lyse.net] has joined #openttd 19:15:27 *** elmz [~elmz@184.213-167-126.customer.lyse.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:15:30 <Eddi|zuHause> feature request: in the refit gui, redraw the vehicle according to the selected refit 19:15:48 *** elmz [~elmz@184.213-167-126.customer.lyse.net] has joined #openttd 19:16:01 *** elmz [~elmz@184.213-167-126.customer.lyse.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:16:18 *** elmz [~elmz@184.213-167-126.customer.lyse.net] has joined #openttd 19:16:44 *** elmz [~elmz@184.213-167-126.customer.lyse.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:16:49 *** elmz [~elmz@184.213-167-126.customer.lyse.net] has joined #openttd 19:17:45 *** elmz [~elmz@184.213-167-126.customer.lyse.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:17:49 *** elmz [~elmz@184.213-167-126.customer.lyse.net] has joined #openttd 19:18:47 *** elmz [~elmz@184.213-167-126.customer.lyse.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:18:50 *** elmz [~elmz@184.213-167-126.customer.lyse.net] has joined #openttd 19:18:50 *** elmz [~elmz@184.213-167-126.customer.lyse.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:19:51 *** elmz [~elmz@184.213-167-126.customer.lyse.net] has joined #openttd 19:20:14 *** elmz [~elmz@184.213-167-126.customer.lyse.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:20:22 *** elmz [~elmz@184.213-167-126.customer.lyse.net] has joined #openttd 19:23:17 *** elmz [~elmz@184.213-167-126.customer.lyse.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:23:20 *** elmz [~elmz@184.213-167-126.customer.lyse.net] has joined #openttd 19:27:02 *** George|2 [~George@212.113.107.39] has joined #openttd 19:27:02 *** George is now known as Guest3666 19:27:02 *** George|2 is now known as George 19:27:59 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: planetmaker * r22382 /trunk/src/lang/unfinished/ (frisian.txt thai.txt): -Fix (r22381): Apply the change of string names also to the unfinished translations 19:31:08 *** DDR [~DDR@d142-179-79-208.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 19:32:36 *** Guest3666 [~George@212.113.107.39] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:32:49 <Twerkhoven[L]> whoa, there's frisian? 19:36:10 <LordAro> upgrade to ubuntu 11.04 started. see you on the other side! hopefully it won't knock out my video driver in the process, like it did last time... 19:36:19 <Twerkhoven[L]> gl 19:39:18 <Eddi|zuHause> the gmund mog really smokes a lot... 19:42:02 *** KouDy [~KouDy@ip-86-49-123-198.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:42:46 *** flitz [~me@dslb-188-097-238-216.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 19:44:00 *** KouDy [~KouDy@ip-86-49-123-198.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 19:44:13 <Eddi|zuHause> and a bug report: you can't move a wagon to the front of a free wagon chain, only 2nd and onwards 19:44:40 <LordAro> or rather not, as my computer seems to be refusing to 'download the release notes' 19:45:26 *** rizzuh [567cda72@ircip4.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 19:45:29 <rizzuh> hi 19:46:14 <rizzuh> what path do I need to pass to configure to install ottd into /usr/games, as well as data into /usr/share/games? 19:48:55 <flitz> "./configure --help" 19:49:07 *** rhaeder [~quix0r@dslb-094-221-150-034.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 19:49:18 <flitz> gives: "--binary-dir=dir location of the binary. Will be prefixed" 19:49:43 *** George is now known as Guest3670 19:49:43 <flitz> and similar for --data-dir 19:49:46 *** George [~George@212.113.107.39] has joined #openttd 19:52:46 *** DorpsGek [truebrain@openttd.org] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:52:55 *** DorpsGek [truebrain@openttd.org] has joined #openttd 19:52:58 *** mode/#openttd [+o DorpsGek] by ChanServ 19:56:20 *** Guest3670 [~George@212.113.107.39] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:57:21 <rizzuh> flitz: thanks 19:58:11 <flitz> rizzuh: Sry, I didn't read your question right at first, that you asked for the path to give But have you figured it out ? 19:58:26 <rizzuh> not really 19:58:32 <rizzuh> reading though configure help 19:59:13 <rizzuh> it seems the defaults would install in /usr/local, but they don't 19:59:23 <rizzuh> sudo make install results in a bin directory in the source dir with all the files 19:59:37 <rizzuh> and nothing in /usr at all 19:59:49 <rizzuh> (well I suppose the /bin is result of make) 19:59:52 <flitz> you need to ".configure --data-dir /usr/share/games --binary-dir /usr/games" and then "make && make install" 20:00:03 <flitz> "./configure" of course 20:00:25 <planetmaker> the binary in the source dir is the one which has been compiled. Only once that is done install installs it into the default path. Which is /usr/local/bin 20:00:48 <rizzuh> looks like the defaults should be /usr/local/games for binary and /usr/local/share/games/openttd for data 20:00:54 <rizzuh> yet sudo make install doesn't move anything there 20:01:01 <rizzuh> as if install does nothing 20:01:12 <rizzuh> per configure help 20:01:23 <flitz> you did a simple make before ? 20:01:27 <rizzuh> yes 20:01:31 *** propliner [~54ba1688@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 20:02:10 <propliner> hi 20:02:34 <rizzuh> hmmm... running openttd works. but the binary isn't in /usr/local/games and I didn't give any params to configure at all 20:02:57 <flitz> hm, the only thing that I ever used in case of openttd was --prefix-dir, but that worked for me 20:03:13 <flitz> and I made a symlink into /usr/games/bin manually afterwards 20:03:15 <Rubidium> it definitely works for the debian package (see os/debian/rules) 20:03:17 <rizzuh> oh crap, standard problem: ssh`d into another machine 20:03:22 <rizzuh> xD 20:03:27 <planetmaker> ... 20:03:46 <flitz> *eyeroll* ;) 20:03:48 <rizzuh> sorry 20:03:51 <flitz> happens 20:11:46 *** George is now known as Guest3672 20:11:49 *** George [~George@212.113.107.39] has joined #openttd 20:14:33 *** George is now known as Guest3673 20:14:37 *** George [~George@212.113.107.39] has joined #openttd 20:17:01 *** Guest3672 [~George@212.113.107.39] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:17:07 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.A98.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 20:17:33 *** Twerkhoven[L] [~twerkhove@cpc14-linl7-2-0-cust28.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: He who can look into the future, has a brighter future to look into] 20:20:11 *** Guest3673 [~George@212.113.107.39] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:21:31 *** KritiK [~Maxim@95-27-227-50.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 20:24:42 *** Kurimus [Kurimus@dsl-tkubrasgw1-fe21dc00-138.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [] 20:25:35 *** KritiK [~Maxim@95-27-227-50.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:26:12 *** KritiK [~Maxim@95-27-227-50.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 20:37:26 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B75F4A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:37:54 *** rizzuh [567cda72@ircip4.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 20:38:23 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B75F4A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:38:54 *** Lakie [~Lakie@82.152.250.119] has quit [Quit: bbiab] 20:39:09 *** Juo [~Juo@cpc16-lewi15-2-0-cust395.2-4.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 20:39:42 *** Intexon^ [~Intexon@blk-222-147-135.eastlink.ca] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:40:25 *** sla_ro|master [~slaco@95.76.27.160] has quit [Quit: Mutant Co-Op - C&C Renegade] 20:40:27 *** DDR_ [~DDR@d142-179-79-208.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 20:41:44 *** DDR [~DDR@d142-179-79-208.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:41:54 *** DDR_ is now known as DDR 20:47:50 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: frosch * r22383 /trunk/src/ (5 files in 3 dirs): -Codechange: Rename PALETTE_TO_STRUCT_GREY to PALETTE_NEWSPAPER as it does not belong to the other PALETTE_TO_STRUCT_xxx recolourings. 20:53:29 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f7313.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:53:47 *** Guest3648 is now known as Chris_Booth 20:54:37 *** DDR [~DDR@d142-179-79-208.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Quit: In democracy it's your vote that counts; 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