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[~wolf01@95.232.234.29] has joined #openttd 08:56:57 <Wolf01> hello 09:09:40 <NGC3982> Morning. 09:13:10 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-075-036.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:29:59 <Terkhen> good morning 09:30:20 *** BenTrein [~bentrein@ppp-115-87-19-160.revip4.asianet.co.th] has joined #openttd 09:41:39 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-075-036.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 10:09:03 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d66-183-118-10.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Quit: for the love of god this is not safe for work] 10:47:22 *** M1zera [~Miranda@ip-78-102-217-126.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 11:02:26 *** drac_boy [~drac_boy@bas1-ottawa08-1176110197.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #openttd 11:02:39 <drac_boy> hi 11:29:39 <BenTrein> Hi 11:30:08 <drac_boy> how're you bentrein? 11:30:20 <BenTrein> I'm hungry, kinda. 11:30:24 <BenTrein> You? 11:30:41 <drac_boy> heh 11:30:44 <drac_boy> doing ok here 11:31:12 <BenTrein> Where's 'here' for you? For me it's Thailand, and it's approaching 18:00. Hence the slight hunger. :D 11:33:16 <drac_boy> oh..canada :) 11:33:23 <drac_boy> going reheat some breakfast in about a hour 11:33:34 <BenTrein> :) Enjoy 11:33:58 <drac_boy> is 'trein' supposed to be 'train'? 11:35:10 <BenTrein> :) Nope. I'm Ben Trein as in http://boek.bentrein.com or http://travel.bentrein.com - Trein is the Dutch word for Train, that's true, but it also happens to be my writers name. 11:35:25 <BenTrein> I also write sometimes at http://my.opera.com/bentrein 11:36:15 <drac_boy> oh heh, I had to ask after all :) 11:36:37 <BenTrein> It's not an uncommon question. No offense taken. Forgive me for the elaborate explanation. I write after all. :D 11:38:33 <drac_boy> well ben is a common name over here 11:39:08 <BenTrein> I know few countries where it's not. Even in Thailand it is; though it's either Benz or a girl's name. 11:39:54 <drac_boy> benz? for a moment I was almost thinking mercedes-benz heh heh 11:40:12 <BenTrein> Yeah, you're right. That's the one. 11:40:57 <BenTrein> You have the weirdest names here. 11:41:00 <__ln__> Mercedes Benz is a girl's name. 11:41:16 <BenTrein> Mercedes is, Benz is a boy's name in Thailand. 11:41:35 <BenTrein> A common girl's name here is Porn, though it has a very different meaning than you think. :) 11:42:14 <BenTrein> However, to make their kid's name western friendly, they added star to it, resulting in "Hi, my name is Pornstar." 11:42:15 <BenTrein> :D 11:48:49 <drac_boy> you still into trains nevertheless BenTrein? 11:48:51 <drac_boy> :p 12:09:40 *** Frankr [~chatzilla@cpc4-pres13-2-0-cust231.pres.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 12:09:48 *** Frankr [~chatzilla@cpc4-pres13-2-0-cust231.pres.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [] 12:34:46 <BenTrein> Yes, drac_boy, love trains. :D Sory for the late reply. My computer got hijacked by my son. 12:42:56 <drac_boy> heh .. shared computer? 12:43:03 <drac_boy> what kind of trains in general then? :) 12:44:20 <BenTrein> Those that run on tracks. :P 12:44:48 <drac_boy> so anything goes..including railbuses? :) 12:45:31 <BenTrein> That's not called a train, so it's not a train. :D Nah, I'm not completely crazy about trains. It's my favourite mode of public transport though. Especially long distance. 12:46:07 <drac_boy> heh :) 12:55:04 <drac_boy> sleeper train or not that long distance? :) 13:06:03 <drac_boy> anyway need to go for now :-s 13:06:06 *** drac_boy [~drac_boy@bas1-ottawa08-1176110197.dsl.bell.ca] has left #openttd [I'm done being in this room!] 13:08:23 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:5d7d:29f2:4a0e:e69e] has joined #openttd 13:08:26 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 13:31:15 *** Elukka [Elukka@78-27-97-92.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 13:40:57 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello084115143107.3.graz.surfer.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:43:36 <NGC3982> Im a bit new to this, but; 13:44:28 <NGC3982> Im using my own host (ttd.dndr.se) to host an openttd server. If i start several servers on the same host, what happends when users connect? 13:44:37 <NGC3982> Will they get all the servers at once? 13:48:41 <TrueBrain> how would that work? :) 13:49:15 <TrueBrain> in reality, you won't be able to start several servers on the same host and port, the second one will simply refuse to start (as server) with: port already in use 13:49:43 <TrueBrain> ofc you can use different ports 13:54:34 <NGC3982> And if i do? 13:54:50 <TrueBrain> if you do what? 13:55:15 <NGC3982> If i start two dedicated server clients on separate ports, will the client find both servers when adding the host? 13:55:30 <TrueBrain> ofc not 13:55:36 <TrueBrain> when they add the host, with append the default port 13:55:48 <NGC3982> Oh, yes indeed. 13:56:03 <TrueBrain> s/with/we/ 13:56:05 <TrueBrain> typing is hard :D 13:57:01 <TrueBrain> (this holds for any application btw, unrelated to OpenTTD) 13:57:19 <NGC3982> But basicly, i could in theory make server #1 at ttd.dndr.se:14900 and server #2 at ttd.dndr.se:14901? 13:57:40 <TrueBrain> not only in theory 13:57:58 <NGC3982> Is this jeopardy or what? 13:57:58 <NGC3982> :D 13:58:33 * NGC3982 will try when he gets home. 13:58:49 <TrueBrain> I often wonder why people say: "I could in theory"; it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to do it in theory, I mean ... ;) 13:59:15 <TrueBrain> btw, if you advertise to the masterserver, users can just double click one of the servers and connect to that server 13:59:29 <TrueBrain> without ever needing to know ports etc :) 13:59:57 <NGC3982> TrueBrain: I have never used advertised servers. Maybe it's time.. 14:00:12 <TrueBrain> it makes is easier for users 14:00:19 <TrueBrain> they can just look it up in a list, instead of knowing name:port 14:00:40 <NGC3982> The thing is, my server is still a "server" (on a Windows OS'd HTPC computer). Im not really in the mood on trying to advertise something that's not really that ninja-turtles stable..) 14:00:44 <NGC3982> -) 14:00:50 <NGC3982> TrueBrain: oh. 14:01:06 <TrueBrain> then how do you expect to get players? :D 14:01:23 <NGC3982> All my games are private, and i still have 3-10 players a week 14:01:27 <NGC3982> Wich is enough. 14:01:44 <TrueBrain> can I then suggest 1 server? 14:01:52 <TrueBrain> we already have too many servers versus clients :P 14:02:20 <NGC3982> Well sure. 14:02:24 <NGC3982> It's merely an experiment. 14:03:12 <NGC3982> mrfusk. 14:03:13 <NGC3982> oh 14:03:17 <NGC3982> Oops. 14:03:19 <TrueBrain> time to change your password now 14:03:27 <NGC3982> It was actually an insult. 14:03:32 <NGC3982> ;) 14:06:13 <TrueBrain> your password is an insult?! :P 14:10:01 <NGC3982> :D 14:10:59 *** welshdragon [~anonymous@cpc8-oxfd20-2-0-cust37.4-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 14:19:10 <Belugas> hello 14:30:33 *** CIA-4 [~CIA@cia.atheme.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:38:30 <NGC3982> Belugas: Good afternoon 14:42:51 <Belugas> good morning to you too :) 14:53:31 *** snorre_ [~snorre@c4A06BF51.dhcp.as2116.net] has joined #openttd 14:55:17 *** snorre [~snorre@c4A06BF51.dhcp.as2116.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:07:51 *** CIA-2 [~CIA@204.152.223.100] has joined #openttd 15:13:06 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 15:19:43 <BenTrein> Good day Belugas 15:21:26 * andythenorth ponders 15:22:32 <BenTrein> existence? 15:35:02 <Belugas> good day, BenTrein :) good international salute ;) 15:35:04 <andythenorth> fs 5270 15:47:44 <TrueBrain> why do you ponder about that? :) 15:47:51 *** drush [~drush@93-94-245-43.dynamic.swissvpn.net] has joined #openttd 15:47:58 <drush> hello everyone 15:49:18 *** welshdragon [~anonymous@cpc8-oxfd20-2-0-cust37.4-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: welshdragon] 15:49:19 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-075-036.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:00:13 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-075-036.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 16:02:33 *** welshdragon [~anonymous@cpc8-oxfd20-2-0-cust37.4-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 16:07:37 *** Frankr [~chatzilla@cpc4-pres13-2-0-cust231.pres.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 16:09:33 <andythenorth> TrueBrain: is fs 5270 a valid patch? If it's accepted, richyb might do more patches. And he sits in an office full of macs 16:09:33 *** BenTrein [~bentrein@ppp-115-87-19-160.revip4.asianet.co.th] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:09:40 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-075-036.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:09:41 <andythenorth> maybe I can bribe him to close some OS X bugs 16:09:44 <andythenorth> or not :P 16:10:46 <TrueBrain> andythenorth: problem with these kinds of patches, they are 'void'; those who have this issue, already know the solution, those who don't, don't care ;) But I see nothing wrong with applying it 16:11:06 <TrueBrain> that said, in all cases, slap him enough to do OSX fixes 16:11:12 <TrueBrain> like many many software, we need it badly 16:11:33 <andythenorth> he doesn't use OS X, but I do :D 16:11:44 <drush> speaking of OSX, 16:11:46 <andythenorth> and we are not short of testing machines 16:11:54 <TrueBrain> so douh ituh! 16:12:12 <drush> I've a question about universal builds for OSX 16:12:36 <drush> they install a 3in1 binary or is there a way to install one of 3 binaries based on detected arch? 16:18:23 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 16:23:23 <TrueBrain> andythenorth: your turn 16:23:23 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: truebrain * r24470 /trunk/config.lib: -Feature [FS#5270]: be a tiny bit GNU autotools compatible, for those who expect all software to follow GNU guidelines 16:24:59 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-075-036.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 16:27:08 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: truebrain * r24471 /trunk/config.lib: -Feature: unbreak multiparam configure settings (--setting value), which clearly nobody uses, as it has been broken .... for a while 16:27:47 <andythenorth> TrueBrain: \o/ he 16:28:07 <TrueBrain> and, ofc, as requested, a more liberal interpertation of Feature ;) 16:28:18 *** welshdragon [~anonymous@cpc8-oxfd20-2-0-cust37.4-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: welshdragon] 16:28:59 *** RichyB [~richardb@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 16:29:02 <RichyB> TrueBrain: thank you! 16:29:12 <RichyB> (w.r.t. http://vcs.openttd.org/svn/changeset/24470/ even) 16:29:21 <TrueBrain> I understood ;) 16:29:32 <TrueBrain> r24471 is more nasty ... nobody clearly ever uses multiparam :P 16:29:35 <TrueBrain> we might as well remove it tbh 16:30:32 <RichyB> Heh! 16:32:42 <TrueBrain> now andythenorth tells me you are going to fix OSX bugs, tnx for that, we really need someone taking care of that 16:32:56 <TrueBrain> (hihihihihihi) 16:33:03 <andythenorth> RichyB: I told him you live in an office full of macs :D 16:33:07 <andythenorth> but also that you don't use them 16:33:12 <RichyB> Of which I use none! :| 16:33:26 * andythenorth was being an optimistic 16:33:32 <TrueBrain> I fail to see the issue :) 16:34:13 * RichyB pokes FlySpray. What kind and severity of OS X bugs do we have anyway? 16:34:20 * andythenorth finds the list 16:34:31 <TrueBrain> summary: OpenTTD does not officially support OSX 16:35:02 <andythenorth> yet numerous devs / newgrf devs use it :) 16:35:12 <TrueBrain> really? 16:35:12 <andythenorth> but we are too haphazard to fix it :P 16:35:13 <TrueBrain> :P 16:35:15 <RichyB> That's mostly crash bugs on FlySpray. 16:35:24 <andythenorth> http://wiki.openttd.org/Todo_list#OSX_related 16:37:44 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-075-036.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:39:28 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-075-036.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 16:52:17 *** welshdragon [~anonymous@cpc8-oxfd20-2-0-cust37.4-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 17:06:36 *** TheDude [~Miranda@ip-86-49-102-148.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 17:16:26 *** Frankr [~chatzilla@cpc4-pres13-2-0-cust231.pres.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:32:49 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has joined #openttd 17:40:15 *** BenTrein [~bentrein@ppp-115-87-19-160.revip4.asianet.co.th] has joined #openttd 17:40:57 *** Frankr [~chatzilla@cpc4-pres13-2-0-cust231.pres.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 17:43:26 *** Alberth [~hat3@2001:980:272e:1:21a:92ff:fe55:fc8d] has joined #openttd 17:43:29 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 17:43:52 <Alberth> moin 17:43:54 *** KenjiE20 [kenjie20@2001:470:dc50:b0::21] has joined #openttd 17:47:48 <andythenorth> hi Alberth 17:56:13 *** Phoenix_the_II [~ralph@f72217.upc-f.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 17:58:27 <Alberth> was the patch of any use, or did you not get that far? 17:58:53 * Alberth wonders how to program a callback 18:01:55 <andythenorth> Alberth: definitely going to be of use, but untested (work work) 18:01:59 <andythenorth> cb programming is easy 18:02:05 <andythenorth> I've done it :P 18:02:12 <andythenorth> you just handle the result from the grf 18:02:26 <andythenorth> easy' assuming that you want to do an easy thing that is :) 18:02:32 * andythenorth biab 18:02:39 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 18:09:02 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d66-183-118-10.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 18:17:04 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f7adf.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 18:20:56 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: translators * r24472 /trunk/src/lang/turkish.txt: 18:20:56 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 18:20:56 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: turkish - 24 changes by otrkmen 18:22:23 <Rubidium> the severity of any OSX bug is, by now, near zero. If it were severe, then someone would have fixed it already 18:23:18 <TrueBrain> in that rain of thought, Windows is a very well protected and safe system ;) 18:23:47 <Alberth> it is, just don't connect it to anythng :p 18:23:58 <TrueBrain> don't boot it :D 18:24:33 <Alberth> that works too, my W95 has not been hacked, despite being very old ;) 18:25:59 <Rubidium> what's wrong with Windows 95? 18:26:13 <TrueBrain> I believe the whole conclusion is: nothing 18:26:34 <Rubidium> it has been (and is still) doing its job fine for over 15 years on a measurement train ;) 18:26:59 <TrueBrain> explains the issue yesterday I guess :D :) 18:26:59 <Rubidium> (not to mention that NT4 also still runs) 18:27:07 <BenTrein> Other than that it was the first step of your OS taking control of your computer - and telling you what to do - nothing much wrong with Win95. I thought it was a very expensive virus. 18:30:12 <RichyB> BenTrein: http://ansuz.sooke.bc.ca/entry/243 18:30:27 <Rubidium> TrueBrain: nope, that's actually another train ;) 18:30:47 <TrueBrain> Rubidium: :D 18:33:38 *** glx is now known as Guest2902 18:33:39 *** glx_ [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:5d7d:29f2:4a0e:e69e] has joined #openttd 18:33:39 *** glx_ is now known as glx 18:33:42 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 18:34:05 <BenTrein> RichyB - I very much like that article. 18:34:49 <RichyB> Thought you might. ^^ 18:36:21 *** Frankr [~chatzilla@cpc4-pres13-2-0-cust231.pres.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:39:52 *** Guest2902 [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:5d7d:29f2:4a0e:e69e] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:49:05 *** CornishPasty [users.158@id-158.hampstead.irccloud.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:49:30 *** CornishPasty [users.158@id-158.hampstead.irccloud.com] has joined #openttd 19:01:08 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 19:12:51 *** TheDude [~Miranda@ip-86-49-102-148.net.upcbroadband.cz] has left #openttd [I'm a happy Miranda IM user! Get it here: http://miranda-im.org] 19:19:16 *** BenTrein [~bentrein@ppp-115-87-19-160.revip4.asianet.co.th] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:46:27 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has quit [] 19:47:24 *** M1zera [~Miranda@ip-78-102-217-126.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 19:48:02 *** Biolunar [~mahdi@blfd-4d082415.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 19:51:37 *** guru3 [~guru3@90-224-111-173-no225.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:51:49 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 20:02:35 *** guru3 [~guru3@90-224-111-173-no225.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 20:02:45 <Yexo> <Rubidium> it has been (and is still) doing its job fine for over 15 years on a measurement train ;) <- Had that comment come from anyone else I'd have asked: "Are you serious?" 20:05:00 <Yexo> are there any statistics about which linux kernel versions are still actively used? 20:06:46 <Rubidium> Yexo: I doubt there will be about machines that are rarely (or not) connected to the internet 20:06:56 <Fawksie> http://i.ytimg.com/vi/WhVdTXh5XoA/0.jpg if it's the NMT you're on about, then they have to be praised for their attention to detail in making a Windows XP skin for Windows 95 20:07:12 <Yexo> Rubidium: my question was unrelated to the previous discussion 20:07:52 <Yexo> at work we had some questions from a customer who had problems which were caused by a 2.6.18 kernel (RHEL5) 20:09:28 <Yexo> that made me wonder because I thought that 2.6.18 is quite old 20:09:31 <Kjetil> if it is a RHEL kernel it is probably nothing like the mainline 2.6.18 kernel 20:09:38 <Kjetil> probably patched to the moon 20:09:48 <Rubidium> Yexo: RHEL5 is supported until 31-03-2017 for normal, and 31-03-2020 for extended life cycle 20:10:15 <Rubidium> RHEL3 is still in between the normal end of life and extended end of life 20:10:26 <Rubidium> and that's 2.4.21-4 20:10:40 <Kjetil> good old 2.4 <3 20:10:58 <Rubidium> 2.6.18-308 looks insane as a version number though ;) 20:11:30 <Yexo> thanks for the info :) 20:12:32 <Rubidium> it's just wikipedia info though ;) 20:12:32 <Alberth> Yexo: but there is nothing recent you can compile on such systems :p 20:12:34 *** telanus [~telanus@196-210-209-179.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 20:12:58 <Yexo> the readme of some drivers we ship said it should work on 2.6.18, but nobody bothered to test it 20:12:58 *** drac_boy [~drac_boy@bas1-ottawa08-1176110197.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #openttd 20:13:02 <Yexo> (well, this customer did :p) 20:13:08 <drac_boy> hi 20:13:43 <Kjetil> whoops :P 20:13:58 <andythenorth> ah work 20:14:00 * andythenorth is working 20:14:09 <TrueBrain> can I quote you on that? 20:14:09 <andythenorth> but as a good capitalist, I don't mind 20:14:26 <Kjetil> working, but on irc.. DOES NOT COMPUTE 20:14:45 * andythenorth just committed 7 patches while cooking dinner 20:14:53 <Alberth> Kjetil: find the right boss :) 20:15:05 <TrueBrain> I am forced to use IRC by my boss .. 20:15:26 <andythenorth> I make it mandatory too 20:15:43 <Rubidium> Alberth: that small progsel I made a few weeks ago most likely compiles on such a system; it even compiles and runs on NT4 20:15:45 <Kjetil> Alberth: heh. I would just spend all day doing non-job related stuff 20:16:18 <TrueBrain> Kjetil: I think that says more about you than IRC ;) 20:16:42 <Kjetil> Never. I blame IRC 20:16:46 <andythenorth> work is one of the more fun things to do 20:16:54 <andythenorth> most things are less fun than work 20:17:45 <andythenorth> right what's on forums today? 20:17:51 * andythenorth ventures 20:18:17 <andythenorth> oh, making money by hauling a long way 20:18:22 <andythenorth> is a known non-problem 20:18:48 <andythenorth> on to the suggestions forum... 20:19:02 <andythenorth> ah, I think 'meh' will cover that 20:19:28 <andythenorth> hmm 20:19:39 <andythenorth> 32BPP blitter stuff I don't understand 20:19:42 <andythenorth> with pictures 20:19:45 <andythenorth> how intriguing 20:20:06 <Zuu> Shouldn't at least one of GSTileList_IndustryProducing and GSTileList_IndustryAccepting take a cargo as argument? 20:20:08 <drac_boy> heh 20:20:09 <Kjetil> C-C-C-Combobreaker! 20:20:15 <NGC3982> :D 20:20:28 <Zuu> To work with industries that don't accept/produce on all tiles 20:21:03 <Zuu> or is tiles that only produce/accept a subset of all cargos not possible? 20:21:05 <andythenorth> those industries should be considered broken :P 20:21:29 <Zuu> But those exist in the default industry set? 20:21:38 <andythenorth> yup 20:21:40 <Yexo> Zuu: I think you're supposed to filter that tilelist by AITile.GetCargoAcceptance > 8 or so 20:21:46 <andythenorth> iirc default steel mill accepts PAX on some tiles 20:22:37 <Yexo> for example steel mill accepts passengers, if there are some houses nearby more tiles might accept PAX than if it was just to be delivered to the steelmill 20:22:40 <Zuu> Yexo: Yes, but if that function only generate a tile list with a radius around the industry, that will fail if some border tiles don't produce all cargos. 20:22:46 <Yexo> the actual cargo can still be processed by the industry in that case 20:23:19 <Yexo> Zuu: I don't think production is by tile 20:23:25 <Yexo> only acceptance is I think 20:23:30 <Zuu> ok 20:23:41 <andythenorth> +1 to what yexo sai 20:23:42 <andythenorth> d 20:23:47 <Zuu> still the problem remains for the acceptance case? 20:24:01 <Yexo> filter the list you get by GSTile.GetCargoAcceptance 20:24:30 <Yexo> you need in total 8/8 acceptance for the cargo to be accepted by the station 20:24:38 <Yexo> but that doesn't need to come from one industry 20:25:01 <Yexo> when cargo arrives at the station it'll be distribute to the closest industry, even if that has only one tile that accepts only 1/8 of the cargo 20:25:11 <Yexo> ^^ all from memory, not 100% sure 20:25:55 <Zuu> exactly, in some rare cases it may broke if a ajacent industry provide coverage at a "false" tile. 20:26:04 <Zuu> But I'll ignore that for now then... :-) 20:26:14 <Zuu> And hope noone will exploit that in the tutorial :-) 20:26:17 <Yexo> I don't see how it is broken? 20:26:51 <Zuu> I try to write Station.IsCargoAcceptedByIndustry(station_id, cargo, industry_id) 20:27:35 <Yexo> why not use GsIndustry.IsCargoAccepted? 20:28:27 <Zuu> It doesn't verify that a given station id covers the industry 20:29:09 <Yexo> first find all industries within range of the station, than use GSIndustry.IsCargoAccepted to filter industries that accept the cargo. The cargo will be delivered to the industry closest to the station (flag) 20:30:12 <Zuu> My core problem is to wait for the user to place a station "near" an industry/town with sufficent production/acceptance. 20:33:37 *** KritiK [~Maxim@176.14.193.109] has joined #openttd 20:37:30 *** Alberth [~hat3@2001:980:272e:1:21a:92ff:fe55:fc8d] has left #openttd [] 20:41:04 *** peter1138 [~petern@lachesis.fuzzle.org] has joined #openttd 20:41:07 *** mode/#openttd [+o peter1138] by ChanServ 20:42:34 *** LordAro [~LordAro@host86-153-237-125.range86-153.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 20:44:40 <peter1138> Om... 20:45:03 *** drush [~drush@93-94-245-43.dynamic.swissvpn.net] has quit [Quit: Wychodzi] 20:46:02 <Zuu> ... is swedish for 'if'. 20:47:01 <NGC3982> Or the start of Nom. 20:47:38 <Yexo> is "start" swedish for "end"? 20:48:16 <NGC3982> No? 20:48:33 <NGC3982> Start in swedish is ..start. 20:50:27 *** welshdragon [~anonymous@cpc8-oxfd20-2-0-cust37.4-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: welshdragon] 20:50:44 *** namad8 [~aaaaa@pool-173-71-180-190.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [] 20:52:48 *** Frankr [~chatzilla@cpc4-pres13-2-0-cust231.pres.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 20:54:33 <LordAro> evening alls 20:54:58 <NGC3982> Yexo: Who told you that? 20:54:58 <NGC3982> :D 20:56:35 <drac_boy> hi LordAro 20:56:46 <LordAro> hi drac_boy 20:57:16 <LordAro> Yexo: thanks for your commits, taking a look at the 3rd patch now 20:57:56 <Yexo> NGC3982: I was referring to "<NGC3982> Or the start of Nom." 20:58:55 <Yexo> LordAro: you're welcome :) 20:58:57 <Yexo> didn't look very long at the 3rd patch, I think it's mostly ok 20:58:58 <Yexo> just put some quick points there 21:00:07 *** namad7 [~aaaaa@pool-173-71-180-190.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 21:02:24 <NGC3982> Yexo: Oh, i see whatz u did thar. 21:03:59 <peter1138> Meh, only getting 5MB/s :-( 21:05:51 *** welshdragon [~anonymous@cpc8-oxfd20-2-0-cust37.4-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 21:05:57 <peter1138> Oh well, 415MB in 1 minute 20 seconds isn't so bad I suppose. 21:07:11 <Terkhen> sounds good enough 21:07:12 <Terkhen> :P 21:07:28 <TrueBrain> depends on what you are doing, not? :) 21:08:25 * NGC3982 brings forth swedish bandwith. 21:10:31 <LordAro> Yexo: HasBaseSet > FindBaseSet ? 21:10:32 <Kjetil> Bandwidth filled to the brim with surveilance 21:10:39 <LordAro> i can't really think of any other... 21:13:16 <Yexo> or TryGet...File or something 21:13:37 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d66-183-118-10.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:13:56 <LordAro> 'TryGetBaseSetFile' ? 21:14:06 <LordAro> that sounds reasonable 21:15:13 <andythenorth> bye 21:15:13 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has left #openttd [] 21:18:55 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:23:09 <Zuu> Oh well this road chapter is taking some time. But as a side product of it SuperLib will gain some new functions and the road path finder lib will need to be ported to GS. 21:23:53 <Zuu> At least it's getting forward. 21:29:27 <Terkhen> :) 21:35:17 *** tr [~tr@dsl78-143-210-81.in-addr.fast.co.uk] has joined #openttd 21:37:09 <tr> 'lo. is there any way to set objectives/goals in scenarios? i'd like the game to, if not end, display some sort of "you failed to meet the goals" message if objectives aren't achieved by a certain date (or, say, within a certain budget) 21:40:09 <Zuu> Have you tried the Split scenario? 21:40:38 <Zuu> Ensure you get both the scenario file and the game script with the same name. 21:41:28 <LordAro> oh, interesting... a seg fault 21:41:45 <Zuu> It doesn't have a deadline, but if you are too late to reach the goal, then the gift given when you reach the goal have vanished. 21:42:57 <tr> Zuu: thanks, trying it now 21:54:32 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@host86-154-36-54.range86-154.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 22:05:52 <Terkhen> good night 22:08:07 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@94.13.8.182] has joined #openttd 22:29:46 <LordAro> Yexo: if you're still around, a comment has been posted to the patch 'thread' on the flysprays 22:30:11 <Yexo> ^^ that's what notification emails are for ;) 22:30:33 <Yexo> I won't be around much longer, so that's not for today anymore 22:31:06 <LordAro> kk :) 22:35:15 <frosch123> night 22:35:17 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f7adf.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:43:30 *** LordAro [~LordAro@host86-153-237-125.range86-153.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:45:32 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@host86-154-36-54.range86-154.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 15.0/20120808131812]] 22:52:46 *** welshdragon [~anonymous@cpc8-oxfd20-2-0-cust37.4-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: welshdragon] 23:03:57 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:08:16 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 23:22:19 *** welshdragon [~anonymous@cpc8-oxfd20-2-0-cust37.4-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 23:26:00 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:29:02 *** perk11 [~perk11@46.242.10.99] has joined #openttd 23:30:03 *** perk11 [~perk11@46.242.10.99] has quit [] 23:34:24 *** sla_ro|master [slaco@78.96.213.97] has quit [Quit: DANGER sla.ro is OFFLINE DANGER] 23:40:09 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@port-92-195-95-166.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 23:40:12 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai|noir] by ChanServ 23:45:25 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-116-208.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:45:25 *** welshdragon [~anonymous@cpc8-oxfd20-2-0-cust37.4-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: welshdragon] 23:55:43 <peter1138> STANDING ON THE TOP OF THE HOOVER DAM