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Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 06:44:13 <Hirundo> you can't store stuff either temporarily or permanently for vehicles 06:44:22 <Supercheese> blarg 06:44:23 <Hirundo> (by design) 06:44:37 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello084115143107.3.graz.surfer.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:44:45 <Supercheese> Well, that wasn't what I'm working on right now anyway, just a thought I had (that others likely have had before) 06:45:20 <Hirundo> AFAIK CETS has something similar, but they compose a vehicle out of several parts 06:45:57 <Hirundo> so you can obtain the z differences between them and use that to pick your sprite 06:46:10 <Supercheese> that would indeed do it 07:08:17 <Terkhen> good morning 07:08:23 <Supercheese> salve 07:21:50 *** fjb [~frank@p5DDFE02C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:56:38 <planetmaker> moin 08:20:17 <Terkhen> hi planetmaker 08:20:22 *** cypher [~Miranda@ip-213-220-193-208.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 08:26:10 *** George|2 [~George@212.113.107.39] has joined #openttd 08:26:11 *** George is now known as Guest6620 08:26:11 *** George|2 is now known as George 08:30:05 *** Guest6362 [~George@212.113.107.39] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:36:19 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d66-183-125-133.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Quit: for the love of god this is not safe for work] 08:42:05 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@88.130.173.134] has joined #openttd 08:48:25 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@88.130.177.103] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:29:41 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 09:37:47 *** FLHerne [~francis_h@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 09:41:03 *** sla_ro|master [slaco@78.96.213.97] has quit [Quit: DANGER sla.ro is OFFLINE DANGER] 09:41:09 *** fjb [~frank@p5DDFDBCC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 09:44:13 *** cypher [~Miranda@ip-213-220-193-208.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! 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"normal" one :)...green grass :D 15:38:24 <onix> railtype? dunno...should i create a new map or can i check it? 15:39:22 <planetmaker> you can probably build normal rail or electrified 15:39:45 <planetmaker> so no desert and snow anywhere, right? then it's temperate :-) 15:39:55 <onix> yep temperate 15:42:17 <onix> http://ft.trillian.im/20a007a9c4e5f8ef869a8dbbf699e688ebedfa23/6aBlvuoAInDigHx4aZFoqWgnkPXnd.jpg am i blind? do i do something wrong? 15:43:31 <Terkhen> if you are playing temperate, without newgrfs, using default railtype, in 1950, you should be able to build trains 15:43:58 <planetmaker> ^^ yes. I'm not at home. Otherwise I'd ask you to post a savegame of what you just started playing 15:44:19 <planetmaker> to me it looks like you might have loaded an (old) broken scenario 15:44:44 <planetmaker> but on a new random map that should just show you some engines in 1950 15:44:48 <Terkhen> please upload a complete screenshot that shows the date, you can use ctrl+s for this 15:45:07 * Terkhen is not at home either 15:45:56 <KopjeKoffie> iÂŽm @ home! 15:46:17 <onix> http://ft.trillian.im/20a007a9c4e5f8ef869a8dbbf699e688ebedfa23/6aBlNblFxSaeEO1ClFJ5fWhBdUmlO.jpg 15:46:37 <onix> 2050...started a new map 15:46:39 <KopjeKoffie> 2050! 15:46:57 <onix> so in 2050 there are no more maps? 15:47:02 <onix> i mean trains :D 15:47:36 <Terkhen> in 2050 you will not have default trains 15:47:43 <Terkhen> try maglev 15:48:08 <onix> oh 15:48:09 <onix> ok 15:48:21 <onix> my fault :( 15:48:36 <Terkhen> but in 1950 you should have default trains too 15:50:32 <Eddi|zuHause> onix: click on the little train icon in the main toolbar, then you get to the train list, there you have a button "available vehicles". if this list shows more vehicles than your depot, you have chosen the wrong railtype 15:50:48 <Eddi|zuHause> onix: to change railtypes, click and hold the rail icon 15:51:25 <onix> aaaaaah cool :) 15:51:28 <onix> thank you! 15:51:34 <planetmaker> http://wiki.openttd.org/Railway_Construction 15:51:51 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 15:52:38 <Bad_Brett> Anyeone with a creative idea on how to add company colors on this one? 15:52:40 <Bad_Brett> http://www.tt-forums.net/download/file.php?id=163999 15:54:56 <Elukka> hm. bright company colors sorta look awkward on old stuff like that 15:55:02 <Eddi|zuHause> Bad_Brett: the jackett of the driver, and/or the roof of the wagon? 15:55:21 <Eddi|zuHause> Bad_Brett: or a sign on the side of the wagon? 15:57:22 <Bad_Brett> jacket or sign might be to small to see at normal zoom level... I guess the roof or the wooden part would be the best 15:58:11 <Eddi|zuHause> the wooden things that hold the oxes? 15:59:13 <Eddi|zuHause> Bad_Brett/Supercheese: had any chance to test the patches i posted? 15:59:45 <Bad_Brett> i meant the wagon. perhaps i could make some nice pattern on the roof 16:00:22 <Bad_Brett> Nope... I read your post but unfourtunately I have no clue on how to run the patch :) 16:00:57 <Eddi|zuHause> Bad_Brett: well. try one of the compiling guides on the wiki :) 16:01:37 <Bad_Brett> Hehe... I will, but I've been busy animating those godamn oxen all afternoon :) 16:02:08 *** onix [4e5e0050@ircip2.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 16:02:13 <Bad_Brett> Oh well... guess it's time to learn 16:03:33 *** KenjiE20 [kenjie20@supporter.blinkenshell.org] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:04:20 *** kais58 [~kais58@cpc2-cwma8-2-0-cust293.7-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:11:00 <Bad_Brett> Installing now... let's see if I can get this to work 16:12:02 <V453000> does that SkiddLow guy talk any sense at all ever, or is that just me? 16:12:27 <V453000> I havent yet understood a single of his contributions on the forums 16:12:39 <V453000> ok maybe some pointless ones :> 16:13:10 <Eddi|zuHause> V453000: that's what you get for using online translators... 16:13:19 <V453000> Oooohhhh 16:13:24 <V453000> holy shit :D 16:13:55 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm sure he's a nice kid and all, but what he does doesn't help his cause. 16:14:13 <Eddi|zuHause> i have also no clue whether he actually understands any of the answers 16:14:33 <V453000> guess he doesnt if he takes it from the translator 16:14:39 <V453000> yeah that is a shame 16:15:53 *** FLHerne [~francis_h@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 16:17:36 <Bad_Brett> haha 16:19:26 <planetmaker> Well, I think he posted sprites in the WAS thread 16:22:14 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-020-161.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 16:44:50 *** keoz [~keikoz@142.90.76.86.rev.sfr.net] has joined #openttd 16:50:28 *** Markavian [~Markavian@78-105-168-146.zone3.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 16:55:35 *** Markavian` [~Markavian@78-105-168-146.zone3.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:57:51 *** Alberth [~hat3@2001:980:272e:1:21a:92ff:fe55:fc8d] has joined #openttd 16:57:54 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 16:58:24 <Alberth> o/ 16:59:05 <Terkhen> hi Alberth 17:00:56 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 17:09:34 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 17:21:19 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f5fe4.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 17:24:20 *** Markavian` [~Markavian@78-105-168-146.zone3.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 17:30:04 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:3d96:da43:5ad0:65aa] has joined #openttd 17:30:08 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 17:30:47 *** keoz [~keikoz@142.90.76.86.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Quit: keoz] 17:31:09 <Supercheese> Oh sheesh, this Skiddlow guy 17:31:26 <Supercheese> reading his posts gives me a headache 17:31:35 *** Markavian [~Markavian@78-105-168-146.zone3.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:31:56 <frosch123> whose posts don'T? 17:32:14 <planetmaker> it's very difficult to read. But he's kind. He's making an honest effort. 17:32:14 <Supercheese> I'm tempted to just dismiss him as an imbecile, but then he posts decent screenshots and contributes sprites to WAS 17:32:25 <planetmaker> If you don't understand him either ignore it or ask kindly 17:32:30 <Supercheese> so I cannot merely dismiss him 17:33:03 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:33:46 <Supercheese> He is indeed trying 17:34:05 <planetmaker> and that needs a lot of courage and persistence in what he does 17:35:23 <Supercheese> Ooh, an ox cart 17:35:47 <Bad_Brett> yep! you asked for it :) 17:35:50 <Supercheese> :D 17:36:09 <planetmaker> sports time... see you later 17:36:17 <Supercheese> I hope it can be easily split apart into three components, to facilitate coding it as a vehicle 17:36:27 <Bad_Brett> that's the idea 17:36:29 <Supercheese> two* components 17:36:36 <Supercheese> since the first two pairs of oxen will be the same 17:37:07 <Supercheese> are you planning to code your graphics into a grf yourself, or has anyone volunteered to do it? 17:37:25 <Supercheese> or neither? 17:37:26 <Bad_Brett> they're actually a bit different so it might very well be three parts 17:37:43 <Supercheese> you can use random bits to make the oxen vary slightly though they use the same sprites 17:37:44 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 17:37:54 *** KenjiE20 [kenjie20@supporter.blinkenshell.org] has joined #openttd 17:38:02 <Bad_Brett> that's right... good idea 17:39:01 <Bad_Brett> well... at first i was hoping that someone would help me, but with nml i can do much of it on my own 17:39:27 <Supercheese> If you need help, I volunteer :) 17:39:50 <Bad_Brett> really? much appreciated 17:39:53 <Bad_Brett> :) 17:39:55 <Supercheese> :D 17:40:12 <Supercheese> just let me release my next grf first, should happen later today :) 17:40:39 <Bad_Brett> yes, of course... nothing is ready here anyway :) 17:41:09 <Supercheese> Well, even with no sprites yet, there's a lot of coding groundwork to be done 17:41:24 <Supercheese> (and there are a few sprites) 17:41:26 <Bad_Brett> what kind of grf are you going to release? 17:41:32 <Supercheese> a 17:41:35 <Supercheese> arg, damn enter key 17:41:40 <Supercheese> a "fake subway" grf 17:41:50 <Supercheese> where subway consists are coded as road vehicles 17:41:54 <Bad_Brett> cool! do you have any pictures? 17:42:01 <Supercheese> not yet, part of what I need to do 17:42:07 <Bad_Brett> alright 17:42:25 <Supercheese> it's got some limitations and issues, but they're fairly minor IMHO 17:42:40 <Supercheese> have a class to get to shoot 17:42:41 <Supercheese> forgot 17:42:49 <Supercheese> be back later 17:42:53 <Bad_Brett> yeah 17:42:54 <Bad_Brett> see youy 17:43:03 <Bad_Brett> have fun now :) 17:48:39 *** M1zera [~Miranda@ip-89-176-31-82.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 17:56:07 *** Biolunar [~mahdi@blfd-4db13197.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 18:09:59 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d66-183-125-133.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 18:25:40 *** Progman [~progman@87.161.171.57] has joined #openttd 18:33:59 *** Hyronymus [~Thunderbi@s53757898.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Quit: Hyronymus] 18:35:06 *** Hyronymus [~Thunderbi@s53757898.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 18:37:09 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has left #openttd [] 18:49:01 <__ln__> @seen Bjarni 18:49:01 <DorpsGek> __ln__: Bjarni was last seen in #openttd 48 weeks, 4 days, 18 hours, 29 minutes, and 54 seconds ago: <Bjarni> heh 18:50:44 <NGC3982> Hmz. 19:00:50 *** Hyronymus1 [~Thunderbi@s53757898.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 19:01:24 *** Alberth [~hat3@2001:980:272e:1:21a:92ff:fe55:fc8d] has left #openttd [] 19:03:35 *** Hyronymus [~Thunderbi@s53757898.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:06:18 *** sla_ro|master [slaco@78.96.213.97] has quit [Quit: DANGER sla.ro is OFFLINE DANGER] 19:12:05 <Eddi|zuHause> his previous "famous last words" were way better :) 19:17:03 <Bad_Brett> haha 19:18:03 <Bad_Brett> Eddi: compiling your patched version right now... should i use variable 0xB8? 19:20:36 <Eddi|zuHause> yes 19:21:14 <Eddi|zuHause> i can not guarantee that it works, though 19:21:19 <Bad_Brett> alright, i'll give it a try 19:21:55 <Eddi|zuHause> and the order of the offsets is reversed now, it starts at 255 and counts down to 0 before it moves 19:23:19 <Bad_Brett> ok... but that shouldn't really matter, right? 19:23:28 <Eddi|zuHause> oh, i think i found the first error/corner case. the range that i map to might be 256..1, so the patch may need an additional -1 in the formula 19:23:59 <Eddi|zuHause> but that is uncritical, so i'll wait for your test before i update 19:24:23 <Bad_Brett> sounds good 20:00:36 <Eddi|zuHause> http://www.titanic-magazin.de/uploads/pics/Postkarte-Parteien.jpg 20:01:09 *** M1zera [~Miranda@ip-89-176-31-82.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 20:06:36 *** Xaroth [~Xaroth@127-062-045-062.static.caiway.nl] has joined #openttd 20:08:43 <__ln__> https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/295222_10151085519327569_1760179696_n.jpg 20:11:04 <Eddi|zuHause> that is borderline evil... 20:12:21 <Bad_Brett> haha 20:31:49 <Terkhen> good night 20:33:50 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello084115143107.3.graz.surfer.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:46:43 <NGC3982> __ln__: SFW? 20:49:12 <__ln__> NGC3982: very 20:49:39 <NGC3982> Hah, harr. 20:49:44 <NGC3982> That's a good one. 20:50:47 *** keoz [~keikoz@142.90.76.86.rev.sfr.net] has joined #openttd 20:52:38 *** roadt [~roadt@60.168.93.183] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:54:07 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@host86-170-205-142.range86-170.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 20:54:59 *** Hyronymus1 [~Thunderbi@s53757898.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Quit: Hyronymus1] 21:02:18 *** keoz [~keikoz@142.90.76.86.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Quit: keoz] 21:04:58 *** Frankr [~chatzilla@cpc4-pres13-2-0-cust231.pres.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 21:05:34 <Bad_Brett> ok, i keep getting that "No available language packs" error, though i definately built "langs" as well... what files do i need to copy to run the game? 21:07:10 <Bad_Brett> nevermind, found it 21:08:02 <__ln__> *definitely 21:08:12 <Bad_Brett> sorry :) 21:11:19 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@94.13.8.182] has joined #openttd 21:19:43 *** argoneus [~argoneus@ip-78-102-118-47.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:24:13 <NGC3982> Why onearth is that spelled with an i. 21:24:17 <NGC3982> +space. 21:24:22 <NGC3982> -. 21:24:23 <NGC3982> .. 21:31:07 *** FLHerne [~francis_h@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has left #openttd [] 21:32:12 <Bad_Brett> alright, it works... now, how can I access variable 0xB8? 21:34:32 *** Pixa [~pixa@85.210.71.6] has joined #openttd 21:41:35 *** LordPixaII [~pixa@85.210.71.6] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:43:24 <frosch123> night 21:43:26 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f5fe4.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:46:51 *** Progman [~progman@87.161.171.57] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:50:45 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@host86-170-205-142.range86-170.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 16.0/20120904124322]] 21:57:44 <Eddi|zuHause> Bad_Brett: http://newgrf-specs.tt-wiki.net/wiki/NML:Deprecated_syntax 21:58:03 <Eddi|zuHause> "var[0xB8,0,0xFF]" 21:58:13 <Eddi|zuHause> if you use NML 21:58:36 <Eddi|zuHause> (obviously you'd just write "B8" in NFO :p) 21:59:03 <Bad_Brett> oh thanks... it's that easy? :) 21:59:35 <Eddi|zuHause> NGC3982: because "finite" is derived from latin 22:00:16 <NGC3982> Ah, yes. That sounds logical. 22:01:44 <Eddi|zuHause> (same root as the word "finish", btw) 22:09:57 <Bad_Brett> hmm... i see no difference... maybe i failed to apply the patch 22:11:58 *** Frankr [~chatzilla@cpc4-pres13-2-0-cust231.pres.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:12:15 *** Frankr [~chatzilla@cpc4-pres13-2-0-cust231.pres.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 22:25:11 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has quit [] 22:29:40 <NGC3982> I dont understand this 22:30:04 <NGC3982> What's up with Germany's stop-n-turn's with the nuclear reactors? 22:30:48 <Eddi|zuHause> Bad_Brett: did you apply all three patches? 22:31:48 <Eddi|zuHause> Bad_Brett: how did you apply the patches, did you recompile afterwards, was the game closed during that recompilation, and did you start the right .exe? 22:35:25 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:43:36 *** M1zera [~Miranda@ip-89-176-31-82.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:46:15 <Bad_Brett> i applied them using tortoiseSVN before compiling... 22:51:31 <Bad_Brett> perhaps i need to update openttd.grf 22:52:53 *** fjb [~frank@p5DDFDBCC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:21:02 <Supercheese> Can one use the refit_cost callback for a vehicle that changes length when refiting to refund money when refitting down to fewer parts and then charge more money when refitting back to more parts? 23:23:40 *** Stimrol [~Stimrol@dsl-149-87-36.hive.is] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 23:26:27 <Eddi|zuHause> Supercheese: afair that should be possible 23:26:47 *** cypher [~Miranda@ip-213-220-193-208.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 23:26:48 <Eddi|zuHause> Bad_Brett: no changes to openttd.grf are necessary 23:28:29 *** Stimrol [~Stimrol@dsl-149-87-36.hive.is] has joined #openttd 23:30:18 <Bad_Brett> then i'm clueless. the variable works, but only the first sprite is shown so it seems to be cache issue, which suggests that i didn't patch it properly 23:31:26 <Bad_Brett> the problem is that it looks patched and I have recompiled it several times... maybe supercheese can get it running? 23:43:55 <Eddi|zuHause> it might well be that my anticache-hack may be wrong/nonfunctional 23:44:08 <Eddi|zuHause> but i can't investigate that at this time 23:46:27 <Bad_Brett> yep... it's bedtime