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00:37:04 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-68-175-24-89.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 00:46:00 *** MoonShine [~MoonShine@CPE-121-218-249-149.lnse4.cht.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 00:46:11 <MoonShine> hey all 01:00:38 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 01:01:04 *** fjb [~frank@p5DDFCC53.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 01:05:50 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 01:07:19 *** MoonShine [~MoonShine@CPE-121-218-249-149.lnse4.cht.bigpond.net.au] has quit [] 01:16:10 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:17:23 *** Knogle [knogle@1604ds5-soeb.0.fullrate.dk] has quit [] 01:17:37 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:20:10 *** cypher is now known as Guest6881 01:22:23 *** Frankr [~chatzilla@cpc4-pres13-2-0-cust231.pres.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 15.0/20120824154833]] 01:24:11 *** fjb [~frank@p5DDFCC53.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 01:54:42 *** Guest6881 [~Miranda@ip-213-220-193-208.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! 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Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 05:39:28 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@94.13.8.182] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:44:43 *** Supercheese [~Password4@76.178.163.204] has joined #openttd 06:24:37 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 06:35:33 *** argoneus [~argoneus@ip-78-102-118-47.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:36:50 *** argoneus [~argoneus@ip-78-102-118-47.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 06:54:16 <Terkhen> good morning 06:54:22 <Supercheese> salve 06:55:09 <Terkhen> good evening Supercheese 06:55:34 <Supercheese> I've been meaning to file a bug report for a while but I'm swamped with homework for my solid modeling class 06:56:53 <Supercheese> when returning a negative value for the refit_cost callback, the refit window displays "Cost of refit: {RED} -,752" 06:57:09 <Supercheese> but you are refunded the money 06:57:19 <Supercheese> the functionality is as intended, just the display is a bit odd 06:57:57 <Supercheese> if you need/want a .grf that does this, I can provide one 06:58:18 <Supercheese> if you don't want to bother right now, I'll make a formal report later 06:59:33 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:01:21 *** Supercheese [~Password4@76.178.163.204] has left #openttd [] 07:01:52 *** Supercheese [~Password4@76.178.163.204] has joined #openttd 07:11:38 *** argoneus [~argoneus@ip-78-102-118-47.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:21:55 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@wirenat-ulcn.strw.leidenuniv.nl] has joined #openttd 07:40:27 <Terkhen> Supercheese: thanks, a bug report like that would be nice 07:41:01 <Supercheese> Well, I'm developing it as we speak (type) 07:41:13 <Supercheese> currently adding variable running costs 07:41:16 <Terkhen> right now I'm at work, and therefore my chances of forgetting this conversation are nearly 100% 07:41:22 <Supercheese> as I said, I'll make a formal bug report 07:41:26 <Terkhen> good :) 07:41:43 <Supercheese> once things have settled down, probably a good 12-13 hours from now after some sleep 08:28:11 *** flaa [~flaa@188.141.45.124] has joined #openttd 08:37:13 *** sla_ro|master [slaco@78.96.213.97] has joined #openttd 08:38:44 *** Supercheese [~Password4@76.178.163.204] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 15.0.1/20120905151427]] 08:41:36 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@i59F6D1A3.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 08:48:03 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6C79D.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:04:10 *** CornishPasty [users.158@id-158.hampstead.irccloud.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:07:54 *** CornishPasty [u.158@id-158.hampstead.irccloud.com] has joined #openttd 09:26:22 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-049-200.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 10:03:40 <Eddi|zuHause> i need a function to single-step through the ticks 10:03:51 <Eddi|zuHause> i.e. "unpause for one tick, then pause again" 10:12:10 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d66-183-125-133.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Quit: for the love of god this is not safe for work] 10:12:53 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-213-220-193-208.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 10:13:01 *** Pixa [~pixa@79-68-109-252.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 10:34:05 <NGC3982> Morning. 10:37:31 *** argoneus [~argoneus@ip-78-102-118-47.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 10:37:55 * dihedral wonders what happened to frosch 10:38:46 <Eddi|zuHause> what kind of "happen"? 10:38:53 <Eddi|zuHause> he was here yesterday 10:39:07 <dihedral> oh - ok 10:40:41 * peter1138 wonders what happened to dihedral 10:40:57 <dihedral> aliens 10:42:22 <planetmaker> frosch actually is here like every day with a few exceptions. And he's very active 10:42:30 <peter1138> Not like me. 10:42:36 <peter1138> But nobody asks about me. 10:43:20 <planetmaker> still I wonder what happened ;-) 10:43:49 <dihedral> i just want certain feedback ;-) and thought i could catch him here 10:44:07 <planetmaker> dihedral, never during working hours ;-) 10:44:14 <planetmaker> he's no slacker like you and me :-P 10:44:29 <dihedral> i pitty the fool :-D 10:44:36 <peter1138> Pity. 10:44:52 <peter1138> I pity the foo' 10:44:52 <dihedral> aye, that 11:00:40 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has joined #openttd 11:12:48 *** Hirundo_ [~Hirundo@5.9.88.188] has joined #openttd 11:12:48 *** Osai^2 [~Osai@5.9.88.188] has joined #openttd 11:13:18 *** SmatZ- [~smatz@5.9.88.188] has joined #openttd 11:13:19 *** ^ekipS^ [~Spike@5.9.88.188] has joined #openttd 11:13:48 *** |Terkhen| [~Terkhen@5.9.88.188] has joined #openttd 11:13:48 *** Yexo- [~Yexo@5.9.88.188] has joined #openttd 11:14:18 *** avdg_ [~avdg@5.9.88.188] has joined #openttd 11:14:48 *** tneo- [~tneo@5.9.88.188] has joined #openttd 11:14:48 *** pm [~planetmak@5.9.88.188] has joined #openttd 11:14:53 *** pm is now known as Guest6924 11:16:41 *** tneo [~tneo@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:16:42 *** Hirundo [~Hirundo@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:16:42 *** Hirundo_ is now known as Hirundo 11:16:50 *** V453000 [~V453000@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:17:48 *** Yexo [~Yexo@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:17:48 *** Osai [~Osai@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:17:54 *** andythenorth [~Andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 11:18:43 *** ^Spike^ [~Spike@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:18:43 *** ^ekipS^ is now known as ^Spike^ 11:19:07 *** planetmaker [~planetmak@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:19:08 *** XeryusTC [~XeryusTC@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:19:13 *** Terkhen [~Terkhen@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:19:16 *** avdg [~avdg@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:19:16 *** avdg_ is now known as avdg 11:19:28 *** SmatZ [~smatz@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:24:40 <NGC3982> Who to'me them liiieees. 11:26:23 <peter1138> Pardon? 11:28:12 <NGC3982> I was continuing the Mr.T quote. 11:29:53 <peter1138> Oh. You missed a space. 11:30:32 <NGC3982> That was intentional 11:30:45 <NGC3982> He always said it so fast that it kind of melted together 11:30:55 <peter1138> Who tome them lies? 11:31:16 <NGC3982> "Tho mé" or something like that. 11:31:26 <NGC3982> Im not sure on how to express the phonetics. 11:31:26 <NGC3982> :P 11:36:02 <peter1138> Clearly you need to use the Standard Mr T. Phonetic Alphabet. 11:38:21 <NGC3982> :D 11:44:04 *** |Terkhen| is now known as Terkhen 11:49:52 *** Guest6924 is now known as planetmaker 11:59:38 *** pugi_ [~pugi@host-091-097-052-109.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 12:03:08 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-049-200.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:03:09 *** pugi_ is now known as pugi 12:03:27 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-68-175-24-89.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 12:10:09 <planetmaker> Eddi|zuHause, wrt your "one tick steps": maybe it's possible to get that via a simple GS? 12:10:56 <planetmaker> though arguably, it's better implemented without as one of the debugging or (newgrf?) developer options 12:17:59 *** fjb [~frank@p5DDFCC53.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 12:18:04 <fjb> Moin 12:23:04 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-68-175-24-89.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Snail] 12:23:21 *** Elukka [Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 12:23:33 <planetmaker> heyja, fjb 12:43:08 *** Frankr [~chatzilla@cpc4-pres13-2-0-cust231.pres.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 12:45:19 *** Frankr [~chatzilla@cpc4-pres13-2-0-cust231.pres.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [] 12:49:49 *** pugi_ [~pugi@dyndsl-178-142-066-249.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 12:53:12 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-052-109.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:53:14 *** pugi_ is now known as pugi 13:21:32 <Eddi|zuHause> https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/293013_10151069700677304_1687028672_n.jpg 13:25:24 <fjb> Too cute to eat. 13:26:29 *** Snail [~snail@166.137.84.119] has joined #openttd 13:29:13 <fjb> http://www.flickr.com/photos/infjb/sets/72157631526703349/ 13:38:04 <Eddi|zuHause> i thought ukrs came with "finescale" tracks nowadays 13:40:06 <Belugas> hello 13:41:31 <fjb> Moin Belugas 13:42:16 <fjb> Eddi|zuHause: That are SwedishRails. 13:45:05 <Eddi|zuHause> "eGRSTS2-nml.grf" <- is that a typo? 13:45:54 <fjb> Good question. 13:46:10 *** XeryusTC [~XeryusTC@524990B9.cm-4-2c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 13:46:22 <Eddi|zuHause> you have way too many grfs, anyway :) 13:47:16 <Eddi|zuHause> it's probably a bad idea to have two AIs with the same "personality" 13:47:52 <fjb> No, it is kind of fun. They are often building the same route, but not always. 13:54:16 <Eddi|zuHause> i don't think there were ever that many steam trucks in the world :) 13:55:01 <NGC3982> fjb: neat. 14:02:17 *** pugi_ [~pugi@dyndsl-178-142-068-249.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 14:02:33 <fjb> Eddi|zuHause: But they are cute. :) 14:02:42 <fjb> NGC3982: Thanks. 14:03:43 <Eddi|zuHause> i should finally get some generic graphics into CETS, to make a beta release 14:05:15 <fjb> What is CETS? 14:06:25 *** pugi [~pugi@dyndsl-178-142-066-249.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:06:26 *** pugi_ is now known as pugi 14:06:31 <Eddi|zuHause> https://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/1990/Hawthorn___Co.__6._Okt_1922.png 14:08:02 <Eddi|zuHause> see http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/cets/nightlies/LATEST/ but most vehicles are just green blobs 14:08:05 <fjb> Ah, that set. Looks great. 14:08:22 <fjb> I only knew the vehicles table yet. 14:08:24 <planetmaker> oberhumer seems to have stopped providing sprites? 14:08:57 <Eddi|zuHause> last i heard he has a serious case of real life 14:09:04 <planetmaker> I see 14:09:31 <planetmaker> I guess there's little cure against RL attacks :-P 14:09:42 <Belugas> yup 14:10:16 <planetmaker> hi Belugas 14:12:18 *** XeryusTC_ [~XeryusTC@bnc.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 14:12:48 *** V453000 [~V453000@bnc.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 14:13:41 <Belugas> sir maker :) 14:14:10 * fjb is also constantly fighting real life attacks. 14:14:32 *** pugi_ [~pugi@dyndsl-178-142-070-134.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 14:14:52 <Belugas> RL? why fight it... 14:14:58 <Belugas> in the end, it always win... 14:15:04 <Terkhen> just ignore RL issues 14:15:18 <Belugas> "Honey, have you put the trashes on the street?" 14:15:28 <Belugas> try to ignore that one... 14:15:44 <Terkhen> hmmm :P 14:16:13 <Eddi|zuHause> "Do it yourself!" :p 14:16:14 <fjb> Belugas: :) 14:16:54 <fjb> Eddi|zuHause: May be she tells him just that in the evening if he told it her in the afternoon... 14:18:00 *** pugi [~pugi@dyndsl-178-142-068-249.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 14:18:02 *** pugi_ is now known as pugi 14:18:30 <Belugas> Eddi|zuHause have not met my wife, nor has he have one! 14:20:52 <andythenorth> ah 14:20:53 <andythenorth> wives 14:23:44 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:24:21 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has joined #openttd 14:34:49 *** Rhamphoryncus [~rhamph@d173-183-158-32.abhsia.telus.net] has quit [Quit: Rhamphoryncus] 14:41:39 *** KouDy1 [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has joined #openttd 14:48:25 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:49:29 <Rubidium> Belugas: pff... she's nice. A lovely dinner at the table when you return home. Imagine the time you would have spent on that dinner ;) 14:53:04 <andythenorth> dinner? 14:53:06 <andythenorth> on the table? 14:53:14 <andythenorth> my wife is way too busy dealing with two kids 14:54:51 <Belugas> granted, Rubidium :) that's why i should not elude the little part she asks me to do here and there ;) 14:55:02 <Belugas> andythenorth, a man has to do what a man has to do 14:55:18 <Belugas> herrr..... 14:59:45 *** pugi_ [~pugi@dyndsl-095-033-170-236.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 15:00:52 <fjb> Wouldn't we all do everything for our wives or girlfriends or both? 15:01:19 <planetmaker> just make sure the two never meet 15:01:23 <Belugas> and both! 15:01:33 <Belugas> gaaa.. planetmaker was too fast... 15:01:54 <fjb> :) 15:03:38 *** pugi [~pugi@dyndsl-178-142-070-134.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:03:40 *** pugi_ is now known as pugi 15:12:44 *** Snail_ [~snail@166.137.84.119] has joined #openttd 15:13:03 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@wirenat-ulcn.strw.leidenuniv.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:20:18 *** Snail [~snail@166.137.84.119] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:20:18 *** Snail_ is now known as Snail 15:37:41 *** Bad_Brett [~Bad_Brett@90-227-32-82-no42.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 15:39:38 *** M1zera [~Miranda@ip-89-176-31-82.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 15:45:02 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-213-220-193-208.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! 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Thank you for your effort! 16:30:48 *** andythenorth is now known as Guest6953 16:30:48 *** andythenorth_ [~Andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 16:30:48 *** andythenorth_ is now known as andythenorth 16:31:34 <Supercheese> You got the better vehicle movement working? 16:33:01 *** Rawh [rawh@lennardk2.student.utwente.nl] has left #openttd [] 16:36:48 *** Guest6953 [~Andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:39:30 *** andythenorth [~Andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has left #openttd [] 16:40:50 <Bad_Brett> no, eddi got it working! :D 16:41:06 <Supercheese> Then let that "you" be a plural "you" ;) 16:42:21 <Bad_Brett> yes! you should see my oxen walking through the landscape... a tear fell from my eye :D 16:42:26 *** huddler [54faab7f@ircip1.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 16:42:41 <huddler> Hi 16:43:09 *** CornishPasty [uid158@id-158.hampstead.irccloud.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:44:42 *** huddler [54faab7f@ircip1.mibbit.com] has left #openttd [] 16:47:07 <Supercheese> ugh, so much homework for my solid modeling class 16:47:17 <Supercheese> can't develop GRFs as much as I'd like to 16:47:42 <Bad_Brett> solid modeling? what are you studying? 16:47:50 <Supercheese> Engineering SolidWorks at the moment 16:47:58 <Supercheese> making parts and assemblies and stuff 16:47:59 <Bad_Brett> oh... i'm quite good at that 16:48:08 <Supercheese> I need to get good :D 16:48:30 <Bad_Brett> i think solidworks is really fun to work with though 16:48:37 <Eddi|zuHause> sounds like something that will soon be obsoleted by 3D printers 16:48:46 <Bad_Brett> haha 16:48:50 <Supercheese> Eddi, you feed these to 3D printers 16:48:52 <Supercheese> :P 16:48:57 <Eddi|zuHause> ah, ok 16:49:58 <Supercheese> Solidworks has a really neat rendering package 16:50:16 <Bad_Brett> it has? i always export my models to 3ds max 16:50:32 * Supercheese hasn't learned anything about 3ds max yet 16:50:41 <Supercheese> perhaps its is better 16:50:51 <Supercheese> "its is", that's awkward to say 16:51:05 <Bad_Brett> heh 16:52:07 *** Yexo- is now known as Yexo 16:53:45 *** CornishPasty [uid158@id-158.hampstead.irccloud.com] has joined #openttd 16:55:42 *** BadBrett [~Bad_Brett@90-227-32-82-no42.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 16:55:52 <BadBrett> Arrgh... stupid computer froze completely 16:56:02 <NGC3982> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytvTA091qIU&feature=em-uploademail 16:56:24 <BadBrett> anyway for photo realistic images i would recommend a pluglin like maxwell or vray... or possible that hypershot thing, which i have zero experience with 16:56:47 <Supercheese> Hmm, if they cost money I'm not interested :P 16:57:02 <Supercheese> for my class though, I'm required to do things the way the professor wants 16:57:02 <BadBrett> yeah... um... forgot about that ;) 16:57:13 * Supercheese is a poor college student 16:57:26 <BadBrett> * BadBrett is also a poor student 16:57:26 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-053-091.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit [] 16:57:33 <BadBrett> hey how do you make it purple? 16:57:34 <BadBrett> haha 16:57:40 <Supercheese> purple? 16:57:57 <BadBrett> yeah the text is purple for me 16:58:02 <BadBrett> nevermind 16:58:07 <Supercheese> that's your IRC client setting 16:58:07 <Eddi|zuHause> your name is now purple as well :p 16:58:08 *** Bad_Brett [~Bad_Brett@90-227-32-82-no42.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 16:58:17 <Supercheese> depends on which client yer usin 16:58:23 <BadBrett> yeah 16:58:36 <BadBrett> so what are you designing? complicated stuff? 16:59:07 <Supercheese> I just started the class this semester, as part of the required curriculum for my Mechanical Engineering major 16:59:29 <Eddi|zuHause> BadBrett: btw, the technical term for "the purple text" is "action" 16:59:30 <BadBrett> yeah... i recently got one of those :) 16:59:31 <NGC3982> BadBrett: You are using mIRC. You can change the color scheme of your client by clicking Tools > Color. 16:59:36 <Supercheese> but my dad's been wanting to have me do his Solidworks for him for some time 17:00:06 <Supercheese> so I'll quite possibly end up modeling plastic aspheric lenses sometime in the not so distant future 17:00:52 *** Bad_Brett [~Bad_Brett@90-227-32-82-no42.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 17:01:04 <Supercheese> anyway, I was using the /me command 17:01:08 <Supercheese> if that wasn't obvious 17:01:15 <Bad_Brett> guess i'm kind of n00b :) 17:03:22 <Bad_Brett> how many years is a major? 17:03:35 <Supercheese> here in the states, a 4 year program 17:03:55 <Supercheese> although I'm double majoring so I get 2 degrees out of it 17:03:59 <Bad_Brett> alright... and a master is 5 years? 17:04:28 <Supercheese> Masters programs can vary, I think 17:04:38 <Supercheese> especially if you go international 17:04:44 <Bad_Brett> i see 17:04:53 <Supercheese> same with PhD programs 17:04:58 <Bad_Brett> we basically have two programs in sweden, bachelor and master (3 and 5 years) 17:05:59 <Supercheese> Bachelors programs here in the states are pretty uniformly 4 year programs 17:06:15 <Supercheese> and then you can go for 2-3-4-more I guess for a Masters program 17:06:37 <Supercheese> I'm not entirely sure how long graduate programs take, likely the answer is "as long as you need" 17:06:56 <Supercheese> and Medical school is different 17:07:04 * Supercheese thinks it all rather confusing 17:07:26 <Bad_Brett> alright 17:07:35 *** BadBrett [~Bad_Brett@90-227-32-82-no42.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:07:35 <__ln__> and master Yoda is still only a master. 17:07:47 <Supercheese> Like my dad, he never got his Doctorate :P 17:08:02 <Bad_Brett> so what is your other major going to be? 17:08:13 <Supercheese> Applied Physics, there's quite a bit of overlap 17:08:30 <Bad_Brett> cool 17:08:34 <Supercheese> Quantum mechanics fascinates me 17:08:39 <Bad_Brett> you'll be a rich man then 17:08:49 <Supercheese> I always say "It's not quantum mechanics" instead of "It's not rocket science" 17:08:57 <Supercheese> because rocket science is pretty straightforward, really 17:09:14 <Bad_Brett> it's cool but very abstract 17:09:36 <Supercheese> your rocket can't be simultaneously in two states :P 17:09:47 <Bad_Brett> haha 17:10:25 <Supercheese> and you can know exactly where and exactly how fast your rocket is going, rather than knowing exactly how fast but it being spread out over the entire universe 17:11:14 <Rubidium> why? If you measure it's location or speed you're changing it ;) 17:11:34 <Supercheese> see? much harder than rocket science 17:11:56 <Bad_Brett> :) 17:12:05 <Rubidium> why? rocket science has to account for quantum mechanics ;) 17:12:20 <Supercheese> but it reduces to Newtonian mechanics at the macro scale 17:12:25 <Supercheese> more or less anyway 17:12:27 <Bad_Brett> hockey time now 17:12:39 <Bad_Brett> first game of the season 17:13:21 <Supercheese> here in the US, "hockey" by default is ice hockey and not field hockey, is that also true in other places? 17:13:26 <Supercheese> (i.e. where you are) 17:13:50 <Bad_Brett> yep 17:13:52 <Yexo> nope 17:13:58 <Supercheese> haha 17:14:45 <Supercheese> I didn't even know field hockey existed until my teenage years, it's not very popular here 17:14:52 * Rubidium wonders whether you want to know the â or â answer 17:15:12 <Supercheese> and then there's the whole football/American football debacle 17:15:14 <Rubidium> they're respectively false and true 17:15:44 <Bad_Brett> field hockey is very unusual in sweden... we play floorball instead 17:15:46 <Rubidium> you got football and handegg is famous in the US 17:17:22 <Supercheese> American football... the ball barely ever contacts the foot, only when kicking off, kicking field goals, or punting 17:17:29 <Supercheese> why on Earth did someone call it football? 17:17:50 <Bad_Brett> no idea 17:17:53 <Supercheese> perhaps the same fellow who called it Aluminum 17:17:59 <Supercheese> ;) 17:18:29 <Bad_Brett> i try to understand it every year during super bowl... i guess you have to look at it more as a tactical game than a fast paced sport 17:18:38 <Supercheese> well, called Aluminium Aluminum, rather 17:19:06 <Supercheese> I vastly prefer watching the Premier League than any American football 17:19:27 <Supercheese> or Euro, or World Cup, etc 17:19:28 <Bad_Brett> yeah me too 17:19:35 <Bad_Brett> but i mostly watch hockey 17:19:47 *** CornishPasty [uid158@id-158.hampstead.irccloud.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:23:40 *** LordPixaII [~pixa@79-68-109-164.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 17:26:59 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 17:27:48 *** Pixa [~pixa@79-68-109-252.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:28:32 *** Pixa [~pixa@85.210.70.184] has joined #openttd 17:33:00 *** Alberth [~hat3@2001:980:272e:1:21a:92ff:fe55:fc8d] has joined #openttd 17:33:04 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 17:33:28 <Alberth> plonk 17:34:43 *** LordPixaII [~pixa@79-68-109-164.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:40:13 *** CornishPasty [uid158@id-158.hampstead.irccloud.com] has joined #openttd 17:43:45 <Supercheese> off to class, back in a few 17:44:01 <Supercheese> d'oh, my away status has been set this whole time *facepalm* 17:44:02 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:f477:451f:1ef5:2821] has joined #openttd 17:44:05 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 17:51:11 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:55:17 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 17:57:34 <__ln__> openttd/src/video/cocoa/cocoa_v.mm:244:28: warning: extra tokens at end of #ifdef directive [-Wextra-tokens] 18:01:15 <__ln__> #ifdef ENABLE_COCOA_QUARTZ && (MAC_OS_X_VERSION_MAX_ALLOWED >= MAC_OS_X_VERSION_10_4) 18:01:44 <Yexo> that's wrong 18:02:02 <Yexo> #if defined(ENABLE_COCOA_QUARTZ) && (MAC_OS_X_VERSION_MAX_ALLOWED >= MAC_OS_X_VERSION_10_4) <- should be that I guess 18:02:26 <__ln__> i know it's wrong 18:03:56 <Yexo> planetmaker: ^^ still have a mac to test it on? 18:04:56 <__ln__> there's a similar problem also on line 257 in the same file. 18:06:01 <Alberth> the tricky part is that it's objective-c perhaps 18:06:11 *** Snail [~snail@166.137.84.119] has quit [Quit: Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi] 18:06:27 <Yexo> is the preprocessor any different? 18:06:41 <__ln__> i don't think so 18:07:31 <Rubidium> guess that shows how well the OSX support is... 18:07:47 <Yexo> cf doesn't have any warnings about it in the build log 18:08:14 <Rubidium> it's a pretty old compiler 18:08:22 <__ln__> i'm compiling with clang 18:09:11 <Yexo> __ln__: since you can at least compile it, could you provide a patch that fixes this? 18:09:18 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590d576e.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 18:10:15 <__ln__> sure 18:15:11 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-053-091.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 18:15:22 <__ln__> now the good question is whether the obvious fixes will alter behaviour. at least it still compiles and runs on this machine. 18:18:38 *** Progman [~progman@87.161.176.155] has joined #openttd 18:19:42 *** elmz [~elmz@34.84-234-184.customer.lyse.net] has joined #openttd 18:20:33 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@host86-165-87-251.range86-165.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 18:23:01 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 18:25:08 *** Hyronymus [~Thunderbi@s53757898.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 18:27:45 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host11-216-dynamic.48-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 18:27:55 <Wolf01> hello o/ 18:29:45 <Alberth> \o 18:32:12 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 18:35:15 <__ln__> http://bugs.openttd.org/task/5296 18:41:55 *** flaa [~flaa@188.141.45.124] has quit [Quit: leaving] 18:42:35 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: yexo * r24524 /trunk/src/ (3 files in 2 dirs): -Fix [FS#5296]: fix some compile problems in mac-only code (__ln__) 18:42:42 <Yexo> thanks __ln__ 18:43:31 <Bad_Brett> the most natural of all logarithms 18:47:07 *** flaa [~flaa@188.141.45.124] has joined #openttd 18:52:34 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 18:52:35 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has left #openttd [] 18:52:46 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 18:54:02 *** elmz_ [~elmz@34.84-234-184.customer.lyse.net] has joined #openttd 18:58:46 *** elmz [~elmz@34.84-234-184.customer.lyse.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:58:53 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:24:03 *** LordPixaII [~pixa@79-68-105-69.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 19:25:15 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@host86-165-87-251.range86-165.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:26:40 <andythenorth> lo 19:27:21 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@host86-165-87-251.range86-165.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 19:27:22 *** keoz [~keikoz@142.90.76.86.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Quit: keoz] 19:29:07 *** Pixa [~pixa@85.210.70.184] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:30:05 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d66-183-125-133.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 19:30:53 <andythenorth> opinions on new FIRS supplies mechanic? 19:34:45 *** Simonn [~Simon@27.18-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #openttd 19:34:51 <Simonn> HI I have superurgent question! 19:35:03 <Simonn> I have an oil well, does it matter if the train station is one block in the well or entirely? 19:35:11 <Simonn> will it matter on the supply rate/load rate? 19:36:22 <Simonn> hurry hurry the train is coming 19:37:30 <frosch123> one tile is enough 19:37:53 <Simonn> so as long as it says supplies: oil 19:37:55 <frosch123> the capture area does not affect anything 19:37:58 <Simonn> even if I have only one tile of oil 19:38:02 <Simonn> it'll benefit from all the oil wells? 19:38:09 <andythenorth> yes 19:38:13 <Simonn> supernice 19:38:17 <Simonn> unrealistic 19:38:18 <Simonn> but supernice 19:38:25 <andythenorth> realism :P 19:38:29 <Simonn> then I can get mail,oil,passengers and water from ONE station 19:38:31 <Simonn> omg you guys 19:38:34 <Simonn> this is so exciting 19:38:45 <Simonn> I'll call the station AndyFrosch 19:38:50 <Simonn> just cause you guys are so awesome and informed me 19:39:27 <Simonn> one more question andythenorth frosch123, what about passengers/mail? 19:39:37 <Simonn> are those affected by the amount of the city I have in my blue zone thingie? 19:39:50 <andythenorth> frosch123: station catchment is complicated right? :P 19:40:04 <andythenorth> I drew a diagram once because it totally confused me :P 19:40:06 <frosch123> Simonn: every house produced on its own 19:40:18 <Simonn> :( 19:40:23 <frosch123> so only the houses in the catchment area supply 19:40:47 <Simonn> can I do a transfer? 19:40:51 <Simonn> like with mail & shit lol? 19:42:16 <andythenorth> yes 19:42:33 <andythenorth> hmm 19:42:41 <andythenorth> I miss the way YACD made transfers easy :P 19:43:28 <Simonn> I am so excited open openttd 19:43:30 <Simonn> insta boner 19:43:42 <andythenorth> that's nice 19:43:48 <andythenorth> thanks for sharing :D 19:45:39 <Simonn> my girlfriend plays openttd right 19:45:41 <Simonn> I mean whats up with that 19:45:43 <Simonn> total disaster 19:45:49 <Simonn> I told her to go play restaurant empire instead or something 19:45:57 <Simonn> something educative for her lifestyle you know 19:45:57 *** Alberth [~hat3@2001:980:272e:1:21a:92ff:fe55:fc8d] has left #openttd [] 19:46:32 <andythenorth> and then she said....? 19:47:02 <Simonn> big slap 19:47:04 <Simonn> lol 19:47:08 <Simonn> well tiny slap 19:47:50 *** Knogle [knogle@1604ds5-soeb.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #openttd 19:48:03 <Knogle> evening 19:48:11 <Simonn> eveningggg friend 19:48:15 <Simonn> danemarkian friend 19:48:20 <Simonn> up for some ttd? 19:48:25 <Knogle> hah 19:48:36 <Knogle> I'm already playing ;) 19:48:52 <Simonn> andythenorth said you are chicken 19:48:59 <Simonn> that you don't play online cause u always lose 19:49:19 <Knogle> haha 19:50:38 <Simonn> you know what I find the hardest 19:50:40 <Simonn> about this thing 19:50:42 <Simonn> SIGNALS 19:50:42 <Simonn> oh man 19:50:46 <Simonn> don't even get me started on those 19:50:57 <andythenorth> ok 19:51:03 <andythenorth> :P 19:51:12 * andythenorth -> beer, sleep 19:51:13 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has left #openttd [] 19:51:36 <Simonn> I mean it even has SEMAPHORES in them... the fuck guys remove those I mean helloooo electricityy 19:54:47 *** sla_ro|master [slaco@78.96.213.97] has quit [Quit: DANGER sla.ro is OFFLINE DANGER] 20:01:39 <Bad_Brett> Can you prevent a vehicle from ever breaking down? currently my cows are on fire 20:04:30 <Simonn> yes in advanced sttings 20:04:40 <Rubidium> disable the breakdowns in difficulty settings? 20:04:48 <Simonn> pls answer opentdd crew 20:04:49 <Simonn> longest platform 20:04:50 <Simonn> 7 20:04:54 <Simonn> how many carts can it hold? 20:05:12 <Rubidium> longest platform is 64 20:05:21 <Simonn> tha fuck 20:05:36 <Rubidium> and the number of wagons depends on the length of the engine(s) and the ength of the wagons 20:05:41 <Simonn> dude I put platform length 7 20:05:45 <Simonn> how many oil tankers can I put in that 20:06:43 <Rubidium> just build a train engine and add wagons until the number next to the train is 7.0 20:07:00 <Rubidium> (when it's more you need to remove wagons) 20:07:57 <Simonn> I se 20:07:58 <Simonn> thanks 20:10:18 <Bad_Brett> Rubidium: That's a dirty solution... i want breakdowns, i just want don't want to see my cows burning...perhaps the only way is to change the breakdown animation to something that makes more sense... the question is what 20:11:33 *** bryjen [~bryjen@75.81.247.49] has joined #openttd 20:14:00 <Simonn> cow burning is pretty cruel 20:18:34 <FLHerne> Bad_Brett: Cows refusing to pull in the same direction? ;-) 20:27:51 <Supercheese> You can disable breakdown smoke 20:28:43 <Supercheese> I'm not sure that's in NML yet 20:28:56 <Supercheese> http://newgrf-specs.tt-wiki.net/wiki/Action0/Vehicles/RoadVehicles#Miscellaneous_flags_.281C.29 20:29:02 <Supercheese> "6 40 Supported by OpenTTD 1.3 (r24124)1.3 Not supported by TTDPatch Disable breakdown smoke effect. " 20:29:26 <Simonn> how much can I suck one map three trains 20:29:36 <Simonn> and I managed to crash them on the first trip 20:29:49 <Simonn> unintentionally just doing my best to get the signals right with tutorials and shit :/ 20:29:58 <Eddi|zuHause> we've all done that :) 20:29:59 <Supercheese> Yeah, bad signaling leads to crashes 20:30:06 <Supercheese> ya learn that one fast ;) 20:32:30 <Simonn> I worked so hard on my trains :'( 20:32:38 <Simonn> one had 300 tonnes of oil or something 20:32:47 <Supercheese> autosave is your friend 20:32:48 <FLHerne> Simonn: Not too bad then :-( 20:32:59 <Supercheese> load an autosave from before the crash happened 20:33:06 <FLHerne> I once managed to kill well over 3000 passengers :P 20:33:16 <Simonn> no I just got mad and alt + f4ed out 20:33:17 <Supercheese> now the kill count is randomized, I believe 20:33:26 <Supercheese> so some passengers can survive 20:33:32 <Supercheese> rather than being completely lethal every time 20:33:40 <Simonn> what are passengers worth? 20:33:47 <Simonn> 1 ton of oils > 1 passenger I mean come on 20:33:52 <Supercheese> (no gameplay affect, of course, just text in the news popup) 20:33:54 *** Hyronymus [~Thunderbi@s53757898.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Quit: Hyronymus] 20:33:58 <Supercheese> effect*? affect? 20:34:04 <Supercheese> fuck those two words 20:34:09 <Supercheese> we should just amalgamate them both 20:34:12 <Supercheese> aeffect 20:34:17 <Supercheese> then there'd be no confusion 20:34:32 <Supercheese> and everyone's SAT scores would go up 20:34:48 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 20:35:14 <__ln__> effect is the noun, affect is the verb. 20:35:31 <Supercheese> Pretty sure they can both be verbs 20:35:38 <Supercheese> checking 20:36:37 <Supercheese> yeah according to Merriam Webster they can both be nouns or verbs 20:36:37 *** KopjeKoffie [~Maarten@f188025.upc-f.chello.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:36:41 <Terkhen> good night 20:36:48 <Supercheese> vale, dormiture 20:37:54 *** KopjeKoffie [~Maarten@f188025.upc-f.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 20:38:20 *** elmz_ [~elmz@34.84-234-184.customer.lyse.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:39:25 *** keoz [~keikoz@142.90.76.86.rev.sfr.net] has joined #openttd 20:40:13 <Simonn> wait did they remove coal mines? 20:40:18 <Simonn> I'm watching this tutorial but I never seen one 20:40:20 <Simonn> in my life 20:40:21 <Simonn> :| 20:40:37 <Supercheese> Depends on climate 20:40:55 <Simonn> oooooooooooooo 20:40:56 *** Zeknurn [~Zeknurn@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:41:00 <Simonn> I have been playing on desert 20:41:03 <Supercheese> don't think tropical has them yeah 20:41:04 <Simonn> I bet that's why I always fail 20:41:09 <Simonn> must be the climate 20:41:11 <Supercheese> http://wiki.openttd.org/Coal_Mine 20:41:16 <Supercheese> " It appears only in temperate and sub-arctic games. " 20:41:23 <Supercheese> the wiki is your friend ;) 20:41:29 <Simonn> Supercheese 20:41:34 <Simonn> for newbie what do you recommend 20:41:37 *** Zeknurn [~Zeknurn@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 20:41:41 <Simonn> huge map cuz plenty of space to try out 20:41:42 <Supercheese> you mean GRFs? 20:41:44 <Supercheese> or? 20:41:45 <Simonn> or small map cuz it's easier to maange? 20:41:47 <Simonn> manage* 20:41:54 <Supercheese> probably 256x256 map 20:42:16 <Supercheese> good size to start 20:42:46 <Supercheese> if that feels to small for ya then go for 256x512 20:42:56 <Supercheese> (or 512x256) 20:42:56 <Simonn> I bet desert was the hardest 20:43:04 <Supercheese> I'd say start on temperate 20:43:18 <Simonn> thats the one with the rivers right? 20:43:19 <Simonn> lol 20:43:23 <Simonn> the one on the left? 20:43:32 <Supercheese> yep, the default 20:43:40 <FLHerne> Simonn: the green-looking one :P 20:44:36 <Simonn> one day imma gonnna be the best openttder in world 20:44:45 <Supercheese> "best" is relative 20:44:59 <NGC3982> Supercheese: Don't destroy the dream. 20:45:06 <Supercheese> you can be "best" at a certain goal script 20:45:10 <Supercheese> i.e. beat it the fastest 20:45:12 <NGC3982> Simonn: Im with you. Rock on! 20:45:26 <Supercheese> but overall "the best"? that's ridiculous to quantify 20:45:31 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has left #openttd [] 20:45:48 <Supercheese> best to say "the best at ____" 20:45:59 <Supercheese> there I go, saying "best" myself :P 20:46:07 * Supercheese will shut up now 20:48:23 <Bad_Brett> supercheese: thanks for the link... is the subway mod released yet? 20:48:24 <Simonn> best at openttd 20:48:42 <Simonn> i'd be the first to catch em all 20:49:02 <Supercheese> still working on subway mod 20:49:07 <Supercheese> taking screenshots for it atm 20:49:17 <Bad_Brett> cool 20:50:29 <Supercheese> Hmm, maybe I should make a .gif 20:50:51 <Supercheese> don't think I have any software that can do that atm 20:50:57 <Supercheese> capture from screen, I mean 20:53:44 <Supercheese> bleh, the new version of MS Paint reversed the directon of Ctrl+PageUp/Down 20:53:53 <Supercheese> Dunno which genius decided to change that 20:54:24 <Supercheese> "Let's change a feature that's been the same for years!" 20:54:43 <Supercheese> And not give users an obvious way to change it back! 20:59:32 <Supercheese> Oh no, I want to put a link to the TT-forums thread in my grf 20:59:44 <Supercheese> wait, not an issue 20:59:50 <Supercheese> edit the attachment in later, nevermind 20:59:55 * Supercheese should think before typing 21:01:45 <Bad_Brett> http://camstudio.org/ 21:01:49 <Bad_Brett> works pretty well for me 21:01:53 <Supercheese> cool 21:03:37 <Bad_Brett> you'll have to convert it to gif though 21:04:06 <Supercheese> don't think I'll use it right now, still shots should be fine 21:04:11 <Bad_Brett> yes 21:04:12 *** KouDy1 [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:04:45 <Bad_Brett> i'm putting up a video later that shows eddi's patch in action... it belongs in the trunk ;) 21:05:12 <Supercheese> presuming there aren't major issues with the patch, of course 21:05:23 <Bad_Brett> of course 21:06:11 <Bad_Brett> i guess they would be performance related since he removed the cache 21:06:35 <Bad_Brett> or whatever the correct word is 21:08:16 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@94.13.8.182] has joined #openttd 21:10:36 <Bad_Brett> do you have a thread for the new mod? for some reason i can't find it 21:10:49 <Supercheese> Not yet 21:10:55 <Supercheese> currently finishing readme and preparing source bundle 21:11:00 <Supercheese> since it's GPL 21:11:34 <Supercheese> I'll be sure to post the link here as soon as the thread's ready 21:11:34 <Bad_Brett> oh all that boring stuff 21:11:45 <Supercheese> boring but very important ;) 21:12:03 <Supercheese> I have permission to use the sprites as long as the GRF is GPLed 21:13:14 <Bad_Brett> i see... i did this for my master thesis, but i thought it was mostly copy+paste... maybe i screwed up 21:13:19 <Bad_Brett> but who will ever know? :) 21:14:44 * Supercheese loves compound meter 21:14:57 <Supercheese> triplet subdivision, so fun to listen to 21:15:04 <Supercheese> [/way off topic] 21:16:58 <Bad_Brett> you're a musician? 21:17:14 <Supercheese> I sing in two choirs currently 21:17:23 <Supercheese> church choir and university choir 21:18:20 <Bad_Brett> cool. i'm thinking of joining one (again) 21:20:05 <frosch123> night 21:20:08 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590d576e.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:20:11 <Supercheese> vale... arg 21:20:13 <Supercheese> too late 21:20:21 <Bad_Brett> my mod will of course include an original score. quite a challenge to make my songs sound like bluegrass :) 21:20:42 <Eddi|zuHause> what does "arg" mean in latin? :) 21:20:51 <Supercheese> :P 21:21:02 <Bad_Brett> arg...ument? 21:21:12 <Supercheese> arg... umentum arg...entum arg....us 21:21:17 <Supercheese> take yer pick ;) 21:22:14 <Bad_Brett> hmm... i always thought it was a castle 21:22:25 <Bad_Brett> the castle Arrrgghhhh 21:28:33 *** FLHerne [~francis_h@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has left #openttd [] 21:34:42 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 21:35:49 *** keoz [~keikoz@142.90.76.86.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Quit: keoz] 21:40:35 <Wolf01> 'night 21:40:39 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host11-216-dynamic.48-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 21:43:21 <NGC3982> Eddi|zuHause: Aargh!! 21:49:53 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@host86-165-87-251.range86-165.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:54:26 <Supercheese> Writing a release thread takes a while... 21:55:10 <Supercheese> wall of text 21:56:37 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:11:34 *** Djohaal [~Djohaal@177.96.81.11] has joined #openttd 22:19:30 *** Progman [~progman@87.161.176.155] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:35:43 *** CIA-1 [cia@cia.vc] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:41:14 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has quit [] 22:42:42 <Supercheese> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=62672 22:42:45 <Supercheese> :D 22:44:20 *** argoneus [~argoneus@ip-78-102-118-47.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:48:11 *** Knogle [knogle@1604ds5-soeb.0.fullrate.dk] has quit [] 22:48:49 <Supercheese> whew, creating readmes, forum posts, and BaNaNaS entries takes a long time 22:53:27 <Supercheese> oh yeah, a bug report 22:54:23 *** Bad_Brett [~Bad_Brett@90-227-32-82-no42.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:54:42 *** Bad_Brett [~Bad_Brett@90-227-32-82-no42.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 22:57:08 <Supercheese> You can now try the subways grf: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=62672 22:57:13 <Supercheese> (in case you didn't see that earlier) 23:02:47 <Bad_Brett> ooh 23:03:44 <Bad_Brett> Wow! that's quite awesome 23:03:59 <Supercheese> It is not without its issues, however 23:04:08 <Supercheese> The known issues section is a wall of text 23:04:39 *** Rhamphoryncus [~rhamph@d173-183-158-32.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 23:04:49 <Supercheese> brb 23:12:52 <Bad_Brett> it would indeed be a nice feature if you could make certain objects passable... hopefully something like that will be implemented in the future 23:23:01 *** roadt [~roadt@114.96.130.33] has joined #openttd 23:23:48 <Eddi|zuHause> most severely would be the option to "pass through surface vehicles" [road/rail] 23:24:00 <Eddi|zuHause> most real world subways run under roads anyway 23:26:28 <Supercheese> yeah, if roadtypes get implemented, and if they could have a "do not clip with these other roadtypes" kind of setting, that would be optimal 23:26:50 * Supercheese keeps forgetting about his "away" setting 23:27:02 <Bad_Brett> have there been discussions regarding new roadtypes? because that would indeed be a nice feature 23:27:10 <Supercheese> oh yeah 23:27:13 <Supercheese> quick search will show ya 23:28:20 <Bad_Brett> that would be perfect... i could have smaller paths that only wagon trains can use... and roads in the cities 23:28:39 <Supercheese> yep, but it's a ways off 23:28:53 <Bad_Brett> so is my mod :) 23:28:54 <Supercheese> map array constrains a lot of development, unfortunately 23:29:05 <Supercheese> (so I've heard, I've not inspected things myself) 23:29:24 <Bad_Brett> one thing i don't get 23:29:39 <Bad_Brett> tram tracks work pretty much as roads 23:30:16 <Bad_Brett> except that trams can't use roads and vice versa 23:30:32 <Eddi|zuHause> Supercheese: most clients have an "auto-away" feature 23:31:19 <Supercheese> Yeah 23:31:28 <Eddi|zuHause> Supercheese: the map array is already prepared for roadtypes 23:31:54 <Supercheese> oh? so it's diagonal roads that are constrained by the array 23:32:47 <Bad_Brett> that's what i would have expected 23:32:48 <Supercheese> http://bugs.openttd.org/task/5297 23:32:55 *** fjb [~frank@p5DDFCC53.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:32:56 <Eddi|zuHause> main discussion point was whether to allow "one road-like and one tram-like" type, or two mixed types, or three types per tiles [latter one needs more bits] 23:33:14 <Supercheese> unlimited combinations! :P 23:34:25 <Eddi|zuHause> and then which one "wins" on drawing (e.g trolley bus route and tram both have catenary, but it makes no sense to draw two types of catenary) 23:35:00 <Supercheese> So map array can handle it, but those types of issues need to be decided first, hmm 23:35:23 <Eddi|zuHause> and then someone actually needs to implement stuff 23:35:33 <Supercheese> that should be imlicit :P 23:35:36 <Supercheese> implicit* 23:37:19 <Eddi|zuHause> independent of that, when you implement "subways" this way, you cannot have subway<->surface connector pieces 23:37:49 <Supercheese> just replace the sprites for the drive through bus stop to have some stairwells to the underground, no? 23:37:57 <Supercheese> oh you mean subways that drive on surface 23:37:59 <Supercheese> right 23:38:22 <Supercheese> hmm, I never considered wanting subways that drive on surface/exposed tracks 23:46:10 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:54:22 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-053-091.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit []