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#openttd 11:45:34 <MNIM> Bah. 11:45:42 <MNIM> my depots are bottlenecking. 11:54:04 *** Biolunar [mahdi@blfd-4d08665c.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: My life for Aiur] 11:55:23 <Flygon> I recommend multiple depots and lines 11:55:35 <Flygon> A bit like how stables/depots work irl 11:56:00 <Flygon> Basically, long multiple tracks 12:28:29 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-4d00877b.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 12:38:45 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@host86-138-118-158.range86-138.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:41:51 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 12:44:17 *** flaa [~flaa@188.141.45.124] has joined #openttd 12:56:07 <MNIM> I had two depots and waiting lines in and out for each in each direction, and a quad mainline passing by them 12:56:40 <MNIM> now there's three depots with waiting lines. 12:56:57 <MNIM> so now in both directions that piece of track is 10 wide. 13:06:37 *** Knogle 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[~Miranda@ip-213-220-193-241.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:17:02 <Wolf01> bbl 14:17:06 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host115-94-dynamic.180-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 14:26:31 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@host86-138-118-158.range86-138.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 14:31:15 *** Chris_Booth is now known as Guest6670 14:31:21 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@host86-138-118-158.range86-138.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 14:31:30 *** Kylie_ [kvirc@CPE18593346e177-CM18593346e174.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #openttd 14:36:59 *** Guest6670 [~chatzilla@host86-138-118-158.range86-138.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:39:59 *** FLHerne [~quassel@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:27:46 <MNIM> Flygon: wait a sec, not sure if I still have a save from before 15:28:53 <MNIM> nope, sorry 15:30:37 <MNIM> (WARNING unresized screen) http://www.fileden.com/files/2009/1/1/2248324/OTTD/Sendtown%20Transport%2C%204th%20Mar%201992.png 15:30:43 <MNIM> current situation. 15:34:17 *** FLHerne [~quassel@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 15:40:09 <Sturmi> you could build one depot per waiting bay 15:43:19 *** FLHerne [~quassel@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:47:12 *** ChileStuff [42dc55bb@ircip2.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 15:47:20 <ChileStuff> Greetings 15:48:02 <ChileStuff> Any functionally cognitive denizens available? 15:48:54 *** ntoskrnl [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:49:52 <frosch123> nope, only bots 15:50:12 <ChileStuff> heh 15:50:37 <ChileStuff> I have an odd video bug I could use help with 15:51:17 <frosch123> win8? 15:51:38 <ChileStuff> colors go all pastel and rainbow on me and looks somewhat pixelated ... no w7 15:51:50 <frosch123> fullscreen? 15:51:55 <ChileStuff> yup 15:52:10 <frosch123> disable desktop slideshow (or whatever it is called) 15:52:15 <ChileStuff> It also does it very briefly when loading, just a flash 15:52:21 <frosch123> or go to openttd.cfg and set fullscreen_bpp to 32 or something like that 15:52:32 <ChileStuff> Kewl 15:52:36 <ChileStuff> Thanx 15:52:38 <Rubidium> i.e. what is documented in known-bugs.txt 15:53:38 <frosch123> told him we are only bots :p 15:54:18 *** KritiK [~Maxim@128-72-133-230.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 15:55:43 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-48-171.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 15:55:51 *** FLHerne [~quassel@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 15:55:58 <ChileStuff> lol 15:56:59 * ChileStuff goes back to building empires 15:57:12 *** ChileStuff [42dc55bb@ircip2.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 16:01:04 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@port-92-195-100-99.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:03:56 *** FLHerne_ [~quassel@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 16:05:42 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-208-105-82-227.nyc.biz.rr.com] has joined #openttd 16:07:33 <supermop> hi 16:07:41 <Alberth> hi 16:07:50 *** FLHerne [~quassel@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:08:00 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@host86-138-118-158.range86-138.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:08:14 <supermop> how's it going? 16:47:41 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@dslb-094-223-119-130.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:56:09 *** Hyronymus [~Thunderbi@5ED1CCB7.cm-7-2d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Quit: Hyronymus] 17:03:54 *** smoovi [~smoovi@e178232149.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:11:59 * peter1138 ponders ... playing ... 17:12:03 *** smoovi [~smoovi@e178215021.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 17:19:08 *** Stimrol [~Stimrol@46.239.219.51] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 17:21:16 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-027-033.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 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<DorpsGek> lithuanian - 48 changes by Stabilitronas 19:11:56 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 19:17:51 <andythenorth> lo 19:17:55 <peter1138> no 19:18:49 <andythenorth> k 19:19:06 <andythenorth> I'll try again later, maybe it will be then 19:21:34 <Alberth> andythenorth: http://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/1952/ 19:22:41 <andythenorth> Alberth: \o/ 19:23:12 <Alberth> hmm, bad diff; basically s/ {}/{}/ and 't' of supplies -> crates 19:25:40 <andythenorth> want to commit? 19:25:46 <andythenorth> might as well ;) 19:30:04 <Alberth> done :) 19:35:50 * andythenorth pulls 19:38:56 *** Sturmi [~sturmi@p4FEDCB2F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:45:47 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@dslb-094-223-119-130.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 19:51:00 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-208-105-82-227.nyc.biz.rr.com] has left #openttd [] 19:53:26 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-208-105-82-227.nyc.biz.rr.com] has joined #openttd 19:53:42 *** cypher [~Miranda@ip-213-220-193-241.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 19:55:55 <andythenorth> any forum stuff? 19:56:14 <Alberth> nah, nothing there 19:56:31 <andythenorth> lame :P 19:57:26 <Alberth> yeah, I am wondering what is happening; perhaps everybody is buying xmas stuff? 19:58:16 <andythenorth> some kind of online sales or something this weekend 20:00:13 <andythenorth> Alberth: seen the regions stuff from fr*sch123 20:00:14 <andythenorth> ? 20:00:33 <Alberth> I have, looks good 20:02:45 <Alberth> so the whole world is online shopping? 20:05:32 <andythenorth> not me :P 20:05:42 <andythenorth> I have everything I need and everything I want :P 20:05:51 <andythenorth> or at least that I can buy easily :P 20:06:20 <andythenorth> oh, perhaps they're buying for other people :o 20:06:23 <andythenorth> how odd :P 20:07:39 <Alberth> the only thing I bought today was a bit of electricity, some heat, and some Internet bandwidth :) 20:08:43 <Alberth> I tried playing FIRS today, but I got annoyed at the problems of finding cargo connections 20:09:25 <Alberth> someone should extend the industry chain window with a cargo to select from 20:20:38 <frosch123> yeah, you always have to find a industry first, which procudes stuff :p 20:23:14 <Alberth> would "FS#3799 - Would be nice to have a way to get cargo acceptance/production for a station" be useful to add to the TODO list? 20:24:59 <frosch123> looks like half of it was done 20:25:11 <frosch123> Yexo wanted to have a thought about the other one :p 20:25:12 *** Chris_Booth[ph] [~chrisboot@host86-138-118-158.range86-138.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 20:25:13 *** Chris_Booth[ph] [~chrisboot@host86-138-118-158.range86-138.btcentralplus.com] has quit [] 20:26:05 <frosch123> ah, we do not have any flag currently at stations whether cargo is supplied 20:26:38 <frosch123> oh, i guess what the issue is... 20:26:43 <frosch123> what should it actually return? 20:27:04 <frosch123> the cargo that is currently produced? or the cargo that could be produced if the industries would be serviced with input? 20:27:17 <Alberth> in my view, the set of cargoes also displayed by the station picker window 20:27:39 <frosch123> does not sound useful at all to me 20:27:56 <frosch123> you want to know whether a specific industry is in the catchment area 20:28:26 <frosch123> so ais would rather have a function with industry id and then figure out a station location 20:28:28 <Alberth> you don't want to know whether you can get/deliver cargo X ? 20:28:44 <frosch123> why would an ai want to know whether some random industry (which produces nothing) is in range? 20:29:02 <frosch123> delivery is fine, but we already have such a function 20:29:24 <frosch123> and it returns whether cargo _is_ currently accepted (i.e. considering stockpiles denying it) 20:29:28 <andythenorth> Alberth: the industry chain window has that feature :P 20:29:31 <frosch123> but for production this makes no sense 20:29:46 <frosch123> also players it makes no sense 20:30:07 <frosch123> players want to see which industries they cover, the "supplies" display is only a rough approximation of that 20:30:07 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:c10f:2dcf:385d:7215] has joined #openttd 20:30:11 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 20:30:27 <frosch123> we should rather highlight the industry tiles when dragging the station area over them 20:30:52 <frosch123> ^^ we could put that on the todo list :p 20:32:08 <Alberth> #3799 is for getting that kind of information after the station has been built 20:32:33 <frosch123> then again you want a list of industries, not a list of cargos 20:32:38 <MNIM> M'fucker. 20:32:57 <frosch123> @kick mnim 20:32:57 *** MNIM was kicked from #openttd by DorpsGek [frosch123] 20:32:58 *** MNIM [~mBuntu@ip5452ffad.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has joined #openttd 20:33:09 <frosch123> anyone want to rant about autojoin? :p 20:33:11 <MNIM> Oops. language. sorry 20:33:39 <Alberth> yeah, MNIM please turn off auto-join :) 20:33:40 <MNIM> I got an epic deadlock that reaches across half of of my 1024*1024 map. 20:33:40 <frosch123> Alberth: i really see no use in a list of cargos which might be produces under unknown circumstances 20:33:52 <Alberth> ok 20:33:52 <frosch123> even for humans there should be a better way 20:36:36 <Alberth> MNIM: nice! /me likes solving deadlocks 20:41:11 <MNIM> Alberth: have fun! XD 20:41:12 <MNIM> http://www.fileden.com/files/2009/1/1/2248324/OTTD/Alpine%202B.sav 20:42:52 *** sla_ro|master [slaco@89.137.75.224] has joined #openttd 20:45:33 <MNIM> D'oh. I see the cause. 20:45:38 <frosch123> Alberth: i added a comment to the fs task, but yexo and zuu might have a better idea :) 20:45:53 <Alberth> just pull one train into the depot, and it moves again :) 20:45:58 <frosch123> awh, i cannot even highlight zuu :( 20:46:11 <MNIM> and it's some very, very retarded signal placement 20:47:01 *** sla_ro|vista [slaco@89.137.75.224] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:52:17 <Alberth> just remove the signal :) 20:54:00 <MNIM> That's what I did, and I added some rail 20:56:25 <Alberth> we need multi-tile depots :p 20:57:17 <andythenorth> 'need' is a strong word :P 20:57:31 <andythenorth> ctrl-click to join? 20:57:35 <supermop> i already did that 20:57:39 <supermop> (fakely) 20:58:02 <Eddi|zuHause> multi-tile depots and switchyards would make a lot of sense if you at the same time limit the number and length of trains that fit in 20:58:33 <andythenorth> even without that 20:58:33 *** Biolunar [mahdi@blfd-4d08665c.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 20:58:38 * MNIM agrees with Alberth 20:58:39 <supermop> also if you let consists change 20:58:41 <andythenorth> it makes routing easier 20:58:44 <MNIM> multitile depots! 20:58:54 <MNIM> do so much want. 20:59:04 <andythenorth> fewer deadlocks when using 'service in depot orders' 20:59:17 <andythenorth> and if breakdowns are on, 'service in depot' orders are essential 20:59:26 <andythenorth> as PBS can't route vehicles to depots 20:59:40 <andythenorth> [reliably] 20:59:42 <supermop> just build a station and rail yard outside the depot 21:00:13 <Alberth> I don't use 'service in depot' orders, I let them find one at their own time instead 21:00:17 <MNIM> It would be nice to retain the buffer function that depots currently have, though 21:00:38 <andythenorth> Alberth: you don't notice that they frequently fail to find a depot? 21:00:48 <andythenorth> especially RVs, which seem to be blind to depots 21:00:58 <Eddi|zuHause> i don't usually play with servicin 21:01:00 <Eddi|zuHause> g 21:01:06 <andythenorth> I turn it off because it's broken 21:01:11 <MNIM> Alberth: I find it brings problems when depots are off the main line, or when you want trains to only go to the depot when they're empty 21:01:26 <andythenorth> hmm 21:01:34 <Alberth> MNIM: don't do that, or don't want that :p 21:01:40 <andythenorth> who wrote all this complicated python stuff without also writing docs? :P 21:01:44 <andythenorth> in FIRS 21:02:29 <Alberth> MNIM: Perhaps it has less impact with my netowrks, as I also play with breakdowns on, so my network has a lot of empty space 21:02:39 <Alberth> andythenorth: someone did, I think 21:02:49 <andythenorth> can't be me 21:02:54 *** FLHerne_ [~quassel@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:03:05 <andythenorth> I am not responsible for anything I did more than 7 days ago, I am not that person :P 21:03:43 <MNIM> how so empty space with breakdowns on? 21:04:22 <Alberth> you need room for other trains to not block all the time 21:04:42 <Alberth> so you make extra tracks to split the traffic 21:04:56 <frosch123> MNIM: you know there is a go to nearest depot order? 21:05:26 <frosch123> you can give a train a option for multiple depots, by putting a waypoint somewhere, and the putting the depots behind it 21:05:35 <frosch123> send the train to the waypoint, then to nearest depot 21:10:36 <andythenorth> my FIRS class design is flawed. At least one of the classes behaves significantly differently depending on which parameters are passed 21:10:40 <andythenorth> confusing 21:11:03 <andythenorth> and the parameters are not orthogonal; passing two that conflict will just result in broken behaviour 21:11:10 <MNIM> frosch123: I do know, but I haven't been able to find a good purpose for it so far 21:12:44 <frosch123> i use it to service many vehicles (which a single depot cannot handle) at a defined point on the routr 21:12:47 <frosch123> route 21:13:09 <frosch123> but maybe i missed the topic :p 21:13:30 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: care to elaborate? 21:16:17 <andythenorth> Eddi|zuHause: this will behave quite differently depending whether a value for 'type' is passed http://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/1955/ 21:16:59 <andythenorth> the templates tell the rest of the story, but you don't need to see all that :P 21:17:26 <Eddi|zuHause> so "type" should be a subclass, you mean? 21:17:48 <andythenorth> possibly 21:17:54 <Eddi|zuHause> class GroundSpriteset(Spriteset) 21:18:07 <andythenorth> more likely I should subclass for GroundSpriteset yes 21:18:24 *** MinchinWeb [~MinchinWe@S01066431505f320b.ed.shawcable.net] has joined #openttd 21:18:41 <andythenorth> then elsewhere check what class I have, instead of checking the value of type 21:19:10 <andythenorth> I don't have any bugs from the current code, it's just weird 21:19:22 <Alberth> the code *knows* what class it is in :) 21:20:17 <Alberth> MNIM: don't you get crazy from all those new vehicle announcements? 21:20:48 <andythenorth> as usual, I have code that works, but it will look funny to other people :P 21:28:14 <Alberth> that's normal :p 21:28:23 <MNIM> new vehicle announcements? 21:28:46 <Alberth> the best indication is that you look at your code, and think "that can be done better" 21:28:49 <MNIM> oh, you mean the new available vehicles 21:28:53 <Eddi|zuHause> i get crazy from prototype offers for vehicle types that don't interest me 21:29:06 <Eddi|zuHause> like a dozen trucks of cargos that i don't transport by truck 21:29:10 <MNIM> they can be annoying, but it's not every day 21:29:46 <Alberth> you can't even quietly watch the trains :) 21:29:50 * andythenorth -> bed 21:29:54 <Alberth> good night 21:29:58 <andythenorth> converting these classes will have to wait :P 21:30:00 <andythenorth> bye 21:30:09 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has left #openttd [] 21:33:54 <MNIM> D'oh. 21:34:13 <MNIM> solved one deadlock, created another with all trains trying to go to an inaccessible depot 21:38:54 <Alberth> :) 21:39:15 <Alberth> I added some tracks so trains could get out faster 21:39:45 <Alberth> and then it sorted itself out 21:39:48 <Alberth> good night 21:40:21 <frosch123> upload it as scenario to bananas: resolve the jam :) 21:40:38 <Alberth> this one is too easy :) 21:41:06 *** Alberth [~hat3@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 21:41:27 * MNIM prefers 'natural' solutions which don't require (too much) extra rails 21:42:02 <frosch123> "natural solutions"? you mean crash all trains? 21:42:03 <MNIM> but yeah, I'll double-up that depot, the other depot(s) on this line already are doubled 21:42:33 <MNIM> frosch123: no, that's for when Im in a bad mood :P 21:48:29 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@host86-138-118-158.range86-138.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 21:52:01 *** Supercheese [~Password4@76.178.163.204] has joined #openttd 21:56:20 <Kitty> 26 21:58:02 *** Flygon_ [Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has joined #openttd 21:58:12 *** Flygon [Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 21:59:29 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host115-94-dynamic.180-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 22:00:09 <Wolf01> hello 22:08:41 <Terkhen> good night 22:10:15 *** Flygon [Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has joined #openttd 22:14:11 *** Flygon_ [Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:14:18 *** Flygon [Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:14:39 *** Flygon [Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has joined #openttd 22:20:07 <frosch123> night 22:20:10 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-4d00877b.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:22:50 *** Stimrol [~Stimrol@46.239.219.51] has joined #openttd 22:23:10 *** Flygon [Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:23:39 *** Flygon [Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has joined #openttd 22:46:48 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@dslb-094-223-119-130.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:48:28 *** sla_ro|master [slaco@89.137.75.224] has quit [Quit: DANGER sla.ro is OFFLINE DANGER] 22:48:52 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@host86-138-118-158.range86-138.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89 [Firefox 17.0/20121113065533]] 22:50:03 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:56:59 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d108-180-123-63.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 23:02:28 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 23:06:49 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has joined #openttd 23:20:32 *** MinchinWeb [~MinchinWe@S01066431505f320b.ed.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:20:53 *** MinchinWeb [~MinchinWe@S01066431505f320b.ed.shawcable.net] has joined #openttd 23:24:22 <MNIM> Whoops. 23:24:49 <MNIM> I just realized that one neglected line I'm still running steam engines... in 1998 23:25:28 <MNIM> those are some truly hardy old grampas! 23:25:55 <Pinkbeast> Welp, China's still running QJs... 23:26:06 <MNIM> elswhere on the map Ive got trains regularly passing 300kmh and here I am running a good old little steam line, frequently single-track, too 23:26:35 <MNIM> Pinkbeast: I know, but aren't those only for coal mine transports? 23:26:59 <MNIM> the coal transports were actually the first line to be electrified in this game XD 23:27:25 <Pinkbeast> Yes - the economics of steam are different if you have a lot of cheap labour and you're on top of an open-cast coalmine. :-) 23:29:39 <supermop> MNIM: think of it as a preserved historic line 23:30:44 <Pinkbeast> It's a great pity one can't actually do that 23:31:14 <MNIM> heh. I might actually just electrify the tracks and add some electric trains, but keep the steamers, because I can 23:31:36 <Pinkbeast> In UKRS1 I've certainly run one or two lines with 5ATs 23:31:42 * MNIM looks 23:31:55 <MNIM> nope. won't electrify that just yet 23:32:49 <MNIM> I'll just dieselize it and add another type of train to my growing list. 23:33:40 <Pinkbeast> Ick, diesels 23:34:49 <MNIM> well, it's that or electrifying a pretty long track 23:35:16 <Pinkbeast> Doesn't the track conversion tool still drag out into a square? 23:35:24 <MNIM> yes 23:35:38 <Pinkbeast> Electrify the world! 23:36:04 <MNIM> I can't be bothered... also, electrifying that will likely empty my bank account. 23:36:22 <MNIM> I'm playing with nutracks. 23:36:44 <Pinkbeast> Goodness me, what sort of game are you playing where money's an issue in 1998? Oh, but with nutracks you can't just blindly electrify the world, indeed. 23:38:42 <MNIM> I've got trains that earn me 6mil a year, but electrifying a meandering track of more than 400 squares as the bird flies still costs a bit. :P 23:53:13 *** Djohaal [~Djohaal@177.96.120.251] has joined #openttd 23:55:38 *** Hyronymus [~Thunderbi@5ED1CCB7.cm-7-2d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd