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00:06:34 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has quit [] 00:18:20 *** Supercheese [~Password4@76.178.163.204] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:18:50 *** Supercheese [~Password4@76.178.163.204] has joined #openttd 00:24:40 *** kais58_ [~kais58@cpc2-cwma8-2-0-cust293.7-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 00:26:35 *** kais58 [~kais58@cpc2-cwma8-2-0-cust293.7-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:56:53 <NGC3982> http://i.imgur.com/tbOm5.png 00:56:56 <NGC3982> This was weird. 01:08:24 *** KritiK [~Maxim@0001264a.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:15:40 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 01:15:44 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai|noir] by ChanServ 01:21:27 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-1-60.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:33:10 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@i59F6BE37.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 01:39:59 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6C0D1.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:53:15 *** George [~George@212.113.107.39] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:05:34 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 02:15:24 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@i59F6BE37.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:15:43 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:22:26 *** Flygon_ [Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has joined #openttd 02:22:26 *** Flygon [Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:18:49 *** pugi [~pugi@dyndsl-091-096-059-149.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit [] 03:19:12 *** George [~George@212.113.107.39] has joined #openttd 03:53:11 *** glx [glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Bye !] 04:41:44 *** Flygon_ is now known as Flygon 04:42:19 <Flygon> http://www.theage.com.au/technology/technology-news/aussie-viral-video-dumb-ways-to-die-lives-on-20121129-2ahm0.html OpenTTD needs a "Viral Video Campaign" option for advertising, 2005 onwards :D 04:43:03 *** Elukka [Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 04:51:54 *** Supercheese [~Password4@76.178.163.204] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:52:22 *** Supercheese [~Password4@76.178.163.204] has joined #openttd 05:08:17 <Supercheese> The Melbourne Metro sure knows how to advertise: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJNR2EpS0jw 05:19:36 *** roadt_ [~roadt@60.168.94.17] has joined #openttd 05:23:56 <Flygon> Supercheese, I posted about that ealier 05:24:03 <Flygon> 30 minutes ago 05:24:08 <Flygon> Certainly proves how viral it is :D 05:24:33 <Flygon> <Flygon> http://www.theage.com.au/technology/technology-news/aussie-viral-video-dumb-ways-to-die-lives-on-20121129-2ahm0.html OpenTTD needs a "Viral Video Campaign" option for advertising, 2005 onwards :D 05:24:33 <Supercheese> aye 05:24:51 <Flygon> Even better, I ride the Melbourne Metro trains :D 05:25:21 <Flygon> Man, if anyone ever does a Melbourne set... they should figure out how to make the trains do air compressor noises. Noisy old Comengs rattle around like lawnmowers because of their air compressors. @_@ 05:27:04 <Flygon> Metro needed the "Dumb Ways to Die" video anyway, all they've been getting apart from that is bad publicity. Because they're skipping stations to keep up with on-time quota's 05:27:15 <Flygon> Unbelievably, they're actually better than what Connex were like 05:56:02 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p5DC66D12.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 05:56:18 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD472D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 06:21:26 *** dada__ [~dada_@dhcp-077-250-097-191.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 06:22:33 *** dada_ [~dada_@dhcp-077-250-097-191.chello.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:22:37 *** DorpsGek [~dorpsgek@000128f9.user.oftc.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:22:42 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5e0097ae.bb.sky.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:22:53 *** DorpsGek [~dorpsgek@000128f9.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 06:22:56 *** mode/#openttd [+o DorpsGek] by ChanServ 06:56:07 *** Pensacola [~quassel@phys9212.phys.tue.nl] has joined #openttd 07:09:22 *** Mucht [~Martin@000128e2.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:17:08 *** 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host closed the connection] 11:43:24 *** Pulec [pulec@unaffilated.amunak.net] has joined #openttd 11:47:24 <peter1138> Yay, I posted an annoying animated gif ;p 11:53:22 <NGC3982> peter1138: Wat. 12:00:57 *** dada_ [~dada_@dhcp-077-250-097-191.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 12:15:59 *** dada__ [~dada_@dhcp-077-250-097-191.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 12:18:23 *** dada_ [~dada_@dhcp-077-250-097-191.chello.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:31:52 *** drac_boy [~drac_boy@CPE001310428ff0-CM00159a034cc4.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #openttd 12:32:04 <drac_boy> hi 12:33:05 <peter1138> DRAGONHORSEBOY 12:43:45 *** George [~George@212.113.107.39] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:53:19 *** sla_ro|master [slaco@89.137.75.224] has joined #openttd 13:07:27 * Flygon eats drac_boy 13:17:42 * drac_boy smacks flygon? 13:17:45 <drac_boy> heh heh how're you? 13:17:52 <Flygon> I could do much worse, y'know :p 13:17:53 <Flygon> I'm well! 13:19:45 <drac_boy> so flygon another story for you as usual..... 13:20:21 <drac_boy> http://www.germansteam.co.uk/FastestLoco/fastloco-06.jpg see that Hudson? one of them met its fate in a sad way.... 13:21:33 <Flygon> It got scrapped when Dieselization happened? 13:21:46 <Flygon> Hit a Cow, never got restored? 13:22:01 <Flygon> Became involved with the Swan Hill line, ended up causing level crossing reform? 13:22:05 <NGC3982> Man, i sure is hungry. 13:22:07 <drac_boy> these class had reccuring issues with their self-lubrication system ... as it happened one of these was just about to slow down a bit for a nearby 80mph curve when suddenly something banged loudy and before you knew it steam was blowing everywhere together with the right siderods whacking the ties ... 13:22:25 <Flygon> Oh no... 13:22:27 <NGC3982> "Flygon eats drac_boy" and "drac_boy smacks flygon?" summarized to "Flygon smells bacon" in my head. 13:22:39 <drac_boy> thankfully after a very lengthy time sliding on full emergency brakes it came to a stop completely on rails to the relief of everyone else ... apparently the lubrication dried up and the bearings froze :| 13:22:45 <Flygon> NGC3982: Good job. Now I want a Bacon Hamburger 13:22:56 <Markk> I ate one for lunch. 13:22:57 <Flygon> ...froze? 13:23:04 <drac_boy> but it was left at the yard for some time then finally shoved to the scrap yard .. noone wanted to fix it because diesels were just starting to come in :| 13:23:05 <Markk> It was incredible salty. 13:23:08 <Flygon> Literally froze? Or figuratively? 13:23:24 <Flygon> Ah, so a combination of mechanical failure and new locos coming out 13:23:31 <Flygon> Same stuff here happens all the time 13:23:36 <drac_boy> flygon...figuratively....think about what happens when you have no oil inside the bearing to keep it from heating up and half-mold 13:23:48 <Flygon> Nearly used a far more offensive word than stuff... but, don't wanna be kicked :B 13:23:56 <drac_boy> thats what happened to that one F7 ... its siderod literally broke up badly 13:24:11 * NGC3982 has bacon in the fridge. 13:24:13 <Flygon> If I may ask, why wasn't steam used as lubricant? 13:24:30 <drac_boy> flygon because its hot and made up too much of water so its no good :) 13:24:38 <Flygon> Hmm 13:24:41 <drac_boy> lubrication was always some type of high-heat oils 13:24:55 <Flygon> So, steam is useless at lubricating steel? 13:25:04 <Flygon> I know it's very very effective with cemerics... 13:25:04 <NGC3982> lubrication => bacon. 13:25:08 <NGC3982> I should stop. 13:25:12 * NGC3982 return to his dutys. 13:25:19 <Flygon> Remember boys! Always lubricate your ba- *shot* 13:25:48 <drac_boy> flygon but anyway ... for the siderod to break and even gash the side of firebox very close to cab .. its really some wonder the whole thing stayed on the rails with the crews only a bit shocked from the initial failure 13:26:00 <Flygon> Luck? 13:26:07 <Markk> NGC3982: You hvae to lubricate the bacon before you shove it up your... 13:26:20 <Flygon> Though, I've never heard of a siderod nearly penetrating the cab 13:26:41 <NGC3982> Markk: T'is be a good way to ingest nutrition. 13:26:42 <drac_boy> flygon well at 70+mph and everything .. the siderod could had easily crashed the cab 13:26:45 <Flygon> Most siderod failures here usually just result in the rod snapping and preventing the locomotive from actually driving the wheels 13:26:52 <Markk> NGC3982: :) 13:27:04 <Flygon> But, then again, most were @ 120km/h from metal fatigue... 13:27:10 <Flygon> After being run for 3-4 hours straight 13:27:31 <drac_boy> flygon but anyway a more amusing story.... 13:28:13 <Flygon> (The R-class was only designed for short-express services. But WCR employed them for distances that, if it weren't for the unique line they were given, would have otherwise gone half-way into neighbouring states) 13:28:58 <drac_boy> theres a route that makes a wide gradual left curve ... then makes a tight right curve ... then heads through several station switches .... one of the Atlantic locomotive had an uneven run and was at station on time ... was just being cut off for the other locomotive when someone noticed the front truck only had one not two tires on left side... 13:28:59 <Flygon> (coupled with the R-class's age, metal fatigue was a horrible problem on moving components... and how hard they were, it was not unusual to replace components after just one long distance runing) 13:29:35 <Flygon> What 13:29:41 <Flygon> Must have been a sturdy locomtive 13:29:46 <drac_boy> immedately there was a call out for all trains to look out for any obstructions on the track..when it turned out there was nothing...a man search down the embanks was then made and soon they did find it.... 13:30:19 <drac_boy> apparently it cracked inside the pony axle chassis leaving it with two tires on right side but only one on left side ... and still managed to negotiate all the sharp curves without derailing! 13:30:39 <Flygon> I'm quite impressed 13:30:43 <Flygon> What speed were the curves? 13:31:07 <drac_boy> not that fast considering the station .. so I would say maybe 40-60mph 13:31:37 <drac_boy> the editor noted this was not the first time such a half-axle "loss" had happened tho 13:31:53 <Flygon> Ah, quite fast 13:33:22 <drac_boy> flygon anyway theres always comical moments even for everyday railroads... 13:33:56 <__ln___> *there are 13:34:30 <Flygon> I'm not surprised :3 13:34:35 <drac_boy> i think I clipped out the picture and put it somewhere but one of the magazine had a 'what the...' monthly photo box .. and one time it was of a special passenger train (mix of VIA and private cars) that was stopped due to a large tumbleweed on the pilot 13:34:49 <Flygon> On the pilot? 13:35:00 <drac_boy> as the caption quoted: after some help from "volunteers" the tumbleweed was cleared for the train to continue on its way 13:35:20 <drac_boy> it was a low nose GP9 or something, hard to say .. as caption did not note 13:35:31 <Flygon> Low nose? 13:35:57 <drac_boy> I mean I've heard of obstructions on the rails ... but for a tumbleweed, that sure was quite a strange photo :) 13:36:31 <drac_boy> flygon..yeah a lot of GP7/GP9 were high nose but eventually later they were either chopped to or sold with low nose instead 13:36:39 <drac_boy> I can show you example if you need? 13:36:44 <Flygon> Yes, please 13:37:09 <drac_boy> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7b/Illinois_Terminal_1605,_July_16,_2005,_Illinois_Railway_Museum.jpg/300px-Illinois_Terminal_1605,_July_16,_2005,_Illinois_Railway_Museum.jpg 13:37:15 <drac_boy> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/00/CA2158.JPG/250px-CA2158.JPG 13:37:27 <Flygon> Ah 13:37:32 <Flygon> I comprehend perfectly now :) 13:37:45 <Flygon> We have the exact same types here, too (the T/P class) 13:37:49 <drac_boy> flygon can you really imagine a train stopped by tumbleweed? :P 13:38:00 <Flygon> Except we use the terms low cab, and high cab 13:38:02 <Flygon> Yes 13:38:11 <Flygon> Windscreen wipers can't wipe that stuff off 13:38:26 <drac_boy> btw flygon there was another magazine photo I liked too.... 13:39:05 <Flygon> http://www.hollywoodfoundry.com/T%20Side%20Shot.jpg http://www.precisionscalemodels.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/Victorian-Railways-T-II-Class-Diesel-Electric-Locomotive.jpg Low and High cab :3 13:39:14 *** ntoskrnl [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 13:39:18 <drac_boy> the photographer was waiting for the Rio Grande train to come around the curve into view so he could take a photo .. but as soon as he heard some consisent whistlings and saw some cows walking on the ties he was a bit upset at not getting his photo... 13:39:51 <drac_boy> but then on a quick moment he thought otherwise and took a photo of nothing but a group of cows walking on the rails obvious to the fact that the train behind them was chasing them for the very same reason :P 13:40:07 <drac_boy> the cows soon finally realized to get off the rails ... but heh :) 13:40:12 <Flygon> Wait 13:40:20 <Flygon> Cows are smart enough to get out of the way of trains? 13:40:28 <Flygon> ...American cows must be smarter than Australian cows 13:40:45 <drac_boy> flygon apparently the cows didn't realize that the higher land they were on was exactly the same place the train was on :) 13:40:59 <Flygon> Ahh 13:41:46 <drac_boy> but they did realize that soon and cleared off out of the way ... train made its way without any further aidos 13:42:33 <Flygon> Here, a cow'll just stand alone on the tracks, then get turned into gibs from a 115km/h locomotive 13:42:59 <Flygon> The 160km/h DMU's are more liable to being rendered out of service, unfortunately :( 13:43:47 *** Kylie_ [kvirc@CPE18593346e177-CM18593346e174.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #openttd 13:44:05 <Flygon> I'm not actually sure what the operating procedure is for hitting livestock, though 13:44:40 <Flygon> I presume the farmer would be at fault, going by my understanding of Australian law, however. His fault for not securing his livestock from going onto Government owned land. 13:45:45 *** APTX_ [APTX@aptx.org] has joined #openttd 13:46:00 *** Strid [~Strid@c-16cee455.04-372-6c6b701.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 13:46:15 *** _drac_boy [~drac_boy@CPE001310428ff0-CM00159a034cc4.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #openttd 13:46:35 <_drac_boy> meh weird server 13:46:42 *** TrueBrain_ [~truebrain@ip82-139-82-247.lijbrandt.net] has joined #openttd 13:46:45 <_drac_boy> anyway flygon heres a good picture of a cattle train otherwise http://images.fineartamerica.com/images-medium-large/cattle-train-home-black-and-white-ken-smith.jpg 13:47:03 <_drac_boy> so yeah cattles along the same land the railroad was on had a funny dual purpose :) 13:47:07 <Flygon> Sounds grand 13:47:46 *** xaroth_ [~Xaroth@254-058-128-083.dynamic.caiway.nl] has joined #openttd 13:48:02 *** DanMacK [~AndChat61@74.198.9.242] has joined #openttd 13:48:20 *** valhalla1w [~valhallas@wirenat-ulcn.strw.leidenuniv.nl] has joined #openttd 13:48:20 *** mikegrb_ [~michael@thegrebs.com] has joined #openttd 13:48:40 *** Netsplit synthon.oftc.net <-> charm.oftc.net quits: efess`, drac_boy, Strid__, MNIM, APTX, @SmatZ, valhallasw, TrueBrain, xaroth, mikegrb, (+3 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 13:49:22 <NGC3982> I'm used to building trees on plantation tiles, since it seems to increase Town rating substantially. 13:49:33 *** Netsplit over, joins: @SmatZ, drac_boy, valhallasw, efess`, MNIM, Stimrol, TrueBrain, mikegrb 13:49:33 <NGC3982> Does it affect production for the industry owning the tiles? 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14:54:07 *** Zeknurn [~Zeknurn@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:54:11 <Superuser> geeeeeeezus 14:54:17 <Eddi|zuHause> it's all the gulf stream's fault... 14:54:45 <peter1138> What's a geeeeeeezus? 14:54:51 *** Zeknurn [~Zeknurn@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 14:55:17 <Eddi|zuHause> he wantet to say "gesundheit", but he had to sneeze halfway through :) 15:23:43 *** sla_ro|master [slaco@89.137.75.224] has quit [Quit: DANGER sla.ro is OFFLINE DANGER] 15:25:49 *** efess` [~Efess@ool-18bfeb53.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:26:03 *** efess [~Efess@ool-18bfeb53.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #openttd 15:28:08 *** sla_ro|master [slaco@89.137.75.224] has joined #openttd 15:34:32 *** Flygon_ [Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has joined #openttd 15:34:33 *** Flygon [Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:37:18 *** Flygon [Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has joined #openttd 15:37:19 *** Flygon_ [Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:37:28 <Belugas> Bloody Time Zones - Altered Reality 15:37:32 <Belugas> always a good moment. 15:38:13 <Belugas> With the wonderful virtuosity of mister Nelson on the keyboard effects :) 15:48:02 <Rubidium> poor Belugas 15:48:15 <Rubidium> although you're likely able to go to work, or home when the sun is up 15:51:30 <peter1138> virtuosity -> randomosity 15:52:14 <Belugas> Don' tell me i've invented a new word?? again 15:53:16 *** Flygon [Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 15:53:24 <peter1138> no 16:01:00 *** Flygon [Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has joined #openttd 16:11:18 *** Pensacola [~quassel@phys9212.phys.tue.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:20:27 *** Flygon [Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 16:29:22 *** sla_ro|master [slaco@89.137.75.224] has quit [Quit: DANGER sla.ro is OFFLINE DANGER] 16:34:01 *** sla_ro|master [slaco@89.137.75.224] has joined #openttd 16:36:31 *** valhalla1w [~valhallas@wirenat-ulcn.strw.leidenuniv.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:41:26 *** Hyronymus [~Thunderbi@5ED1CCB7.cm-7-2d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 16:49:04 *** Hyronymus [~Thunderbi@5ED1CCB7.cm-7-2d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Quit: Hyronymus] 16:50:28 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has joined #openttd 16:57:37 *** roadt_ [~roadt@60.168.94.17] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:58:13 <Belugas> randomosity... not quite... try to make those effects working ;) 17:30:18 *** Dr_Tan [~nat@00179a279bbd.click-network.com] has joined #openttd 17:30:48 *** MNIM [~mBuntu@ip5452ffad.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:34:09 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590ff57a.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 17:37:27 *** Nat_aS [~nat@00179a279bbd.click-network.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:38:38 <Superuser> http://notalwaysright.com/admitting-defeat-was-an-easy-thing-touche/25319 17:52:33 *** Elukka [Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [] 17:59:26 *** kais58 [~kais58@cpc2-cwma8-2-0-cust293.7-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 18:01:11 *** kais58_ [~kais58@cpc2-cwma8-2-0-cust293.7-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:10:54 *** FLHerne [~quassel@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 18:13:33 <Terkhen> hello 18:14:41 *** glx [glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 18:14:44 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 18:14:51 <frosch123> Terkhen: sorry, i have no string ready yet for today :p 18:15:43 *** brambles [lechuck@s0.barwen.ch] has joined #openttd 18:17:45 <Terkhen> frosch123: no problem, I come for the chatting too :P 18:17:54 <frosch123> :I) 18:17:55 <Terkhen> although lately I never have much time :P 18:29:05 *** Flygon [Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has joined #openttd 18:30:15 *** Devroush [~dennis@d5152695A.access.telenet.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:30:32 *** TrueBrain_ is now known as TrueBrain 18:34:07 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 18:34:11 *** kero [~keikoz@1.4.69.86.rev.sfr.net] has joined #openttd 18:45:43 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r24775 /trunk/src/lang (5 files) (2012-11-29 18:45:34 UTC) 18:45:44 <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 18:45:45 <DorpsGek> belarusian - 2 changes by Wowanxm 18:45:46 <DorpsGek> greek - 19 changes by Evropi 18:45:47 <DorpsGek> italian - 1 changes by lorenzodv 18:45:48 <DorpsGek> latvian - 1 changes by Parastais 18:45:49 <DorpsGek> lithuanian - 31 changes by 18:45:50 <DorpsGek> spanish - 1 changes by Terkhen 18:46:28 <Superuser> https://www.humblebundle.com/ humble bundle genocide best day of my life 18:49:20 *** brambles [lechuck@s0.barwen.ch] has quit [Quit: leaving] 18:50:25 *** George [~George@212.113.107.39] has joined #openttd 18:52:48 *** brambles [lechuck@s0.barwen.ch] has joined #openttd 18:55:32 *** Guest329 [~George@212.113.107.39] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:59:37 *** George|2 [~George@212.113.107.39] has joined #openttd 18:59:38 *** George is now known as Guest419 18:59:38 *** George|2 is now known as George 19:03:03 *** Dr_Tan is now known as Nat_aS 19:04:40 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1AAFE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:04:50 *** Guest419 [~George@212.113.107.39] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:14:58 *** sla_ro|vista [slaco@89.137.75.224] has joined #openttd 19:17:02 *** Markavian` [~Markavian@78-105-168-146.zone3.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:17:51 *** sla_ro|master [slaco@89.137.75.224] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:29:26 *** KritiK [~Maxim@0001264a.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 19:30:24 <andythenorth> lo 19:33:01 <Rubidium> hi andythenorth 19:34:58 <frosch123> hmmm... how about dropping ottd's gui framework, and using a standard library? :p 19:35:21 <frosch123> some ottd widgets are just too weird 19:35:38 <peter1138> heh 19:35:54 <andythenorth> make it a html frontend 19:35:55 <andythenorth> :P 19:36:00 <andythenorth> html + javascript :P 19:36:08 <andythenorth> talking to the game via admin port :P 19:36:47 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:37:16 <Superuser> anyone heard of Hedgewars? It's an open source worms clone written in Object Pascal 19:37:33 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, so...? 19:37:37 <Superuser> as a Google Summer of Code project they got someone to make an HTML5 port that would use WebGL 19:38:18 <Superuser> they used pas2c first to convert to plain C source code and then reworked the opengl pipeline a bit, and voila, they dumped it into a program called 'emscripten' and now you can play Hedgewars straight from your browser 19:38:30 <Superuser> a Facebook OpenTTD would be pretty cool, just sayin' 19:38:48 <Superuser> but there are other priorities right now, like integrating 32 bit graphics right 19:38:59 <Eddi|zuHause> so how about you look into the dozen threads in the forum discussing web-openttd? 19:39:02 <frosch123> guess what, ottd has already been put into emscripten 19:39:36 <Superuser> really?! o_O 19:39:41 <Superuser> tell me more 19:39:59 <Superuser> I had no idea, where I can try it 19:40:07 <frosch123> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=61270&p=1033089&hilit=emscripten#p1033089 19:40:29 <andythenorth> hedgewars is 175MB 19:40:33 <andythenorth> and my connection is slow :P 19:40:47 <andythenorth> is it good? 19:40:57 <frosch123> that sounds bigger than worms 2, and definitely bigger than worms 1 19:41:12 <Eddi|zuHause> i never really played worms... 19:41:15 <andythenorth> this might be the end of openttd for me for a bit if it's good 19:41:22 <Superuser> no they made a custom script or something for it 19:41:25 <andythenorth> worms is probably my 4th favourite game :P 19:41:28 <Eddi|zuHause> one time, in college... :) 19:41:29 <Superuser> or rather, there's 4 versions of it 19:41:30 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 19:41:38 <Superuser> some of which load content on demand 19:41:52 <Eddi|zuHause> the 3D version, though 19:42:13 <Superuser> wait, that topic suggests OpenTTD is for big-endian systems... wtf? 19:42:52 <Eddi|zuHause> openttd supports both big-endian and little-endian 19:43:11 <Superuser> man, OpenTTD sure is an amazing engineering effort, 5/5 job you guys 19:43:33 <ntoskrnl> any program that is endian dependent is pretty crappy to be honest 19:44:02 <Superuser> OMG, I came EVERYWHERE!!!! This JS port is AMAZING 19:44:22 <Superuser> I wonder though, aren't these graphics the original TTD graphics? Is that allowed? 19:44:23 <andythenorth> meh, tedious list of 'my favourite games', in order: Chocks Away (RISC OS), Dope Wars, Lotus Turbo Esprit, Railroad Tycoon 3, Super Mariokart (Wii), Super Mariokart (SNES), Puzzle Bobble, 19:44:34 <Superuser> Dope Wars! 19:44:35 <Superuser> +1 19:45:04 <Eddi|zuHause> ntoskrnl: it may screw up some "advanced bitstuffing" functions, and saving/loading must handle endian conversion, or the savegames will not be portable 19:45:49 <Eddi|zuHause> Superuser: you go ahead and teach a russian about copyright... 19:46:14 <andythenorth> I forgot Worms :P 19:46:30 <ntoskrnl> just report the site to chris sawyer and he will issue a dmca takedown =P 19:46:35 <frosch123> andythenorth: so what is your riffle accuracy? 19:46:41 <andythenorth> dunno yet 19:47:07 <andythenorth> I have also been avoiding Kerbal Space Program and Dwarf Fortress. Enough time spent on games already :P 19:47:18 <frosch123> can you kick a worm into water across a distance of two screens? 19:47:36 <andythenorth> nah 19:47:39 <andythenorth> I'm rubbish 19:47:46 <andythenorth> this hedgey thing has MP mode I think btw 19:47:59 <frosch123> (while i never understood how aiming across screen borders could even work, it works quite well actually) 19:48:14 <frosch123> classic worms has round robin 19:48:29 <frosch123> i think worms2 also has lan, but still round robin 19:48:31 <frosch123> not rts :p 19:48:33 <NGC3982> andythenorth: I have found some artifacts in FIRS 0.7.5 that i can't seem to get around. 19:48:43 <andythenorth> orly? 19:48:59 <Eddi|zuHause> "RTS worms"... that sounds funny :p 19:49:04 <andythenorth> hedgey thing is confusing, can't figure it out 19:49:07 <andythenorth> meh 19:49:19 <Superuser> my favourite games, in order: 2D Zelda games (esp. Minish Cap), Jet Set Radio:Future, Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory (preferably with JayMod), Hidden & Dangerous 2, Stronghold: Crusader, Pirates of the Caribbean by Akella (also known as Sea Dogs 2, nothing to do with the Disney movie), Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup, Battle for Wesnoth (which I write mods for, check out Temple of the nagas), OpenTTD 19:49:38 <Superuser> played all of these to death 19:49:48 <NGC3982> Im talking out of my ass 19:49:53 <NGC3982> I say FIRS when i mean CHIPS. 19:50:12 <frosch123> has temple of the nagas something to do with sc? 19:50:19 <Superuser> sc? 19:50:25 <frosch123> starcraft 19:50:36 <Superuser> no, never even played Starcraft lol though I love my RTSs 19:50:39 <NGC3982> http://i.imgur.com/m58Zx.png 19:50:41 <andythenorth> NGC3982: CHIPS is borked 19:50:46 <andythenorth> I would avoid it for now 19:50:48 <Superuser> nagas are a race in Wesnoth (high fantasy universe) 19:50:56 <Eddi|zuHause> i know nagas only from heroes3 19:51:14 <Eddi|zuHause> (which is one of my all time favourite games) 19:51:19 <NGC3982> andythenorth: Oh, i see. 19:51:24 <Superuser> HoMM3 is a great game too, yeah, not in my fave list though (too hard!) 19:51:28 *** Psyk [~Psyk@ip-78-102-228-126.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 19:51:35 <frosch123> wow, there is no liquipedia article about xel'naga :o 19:51:40 <NGC3982> Heroes 3 <3. 19:51:53 <NGC3982> My childhood called and wanted me back. 19:51:54 <frosch123> Superuser: http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/Xel%27naga 19:52:22 <Superuser> also insert around the top of my list: Europa Universalis III and Victoria II (very similar grand strategy games), and closer to the middle, Donkey Kong 64 and Super Mario 64 19:52:47 <Superuser> looks kinda cool, nothing like a naga in wesnoth though ;) 19:52:52 <Eddi|zuHause> how can heroes3 be hard? 19:52:56 <NGC3982> Eddi|zuHause: Very. 19:53:25 <Superuser> http://units.wesnoth.org/1.10/mainline/en_US/Naga%20Fighter.html 19:53:48 <Eddi|zuHause> once you have a decent enough army and keep it together, you can pick off the AI really well 19:53:57 <NGC3982> This is from the time when games did not allow you to solve being a twat-face by pressing "A" at a quicktime event. 19:54:04 <Superuser> the double icons and portraits are because this doesn't have a separate icon/portrait for male and female yet 19:54:20 <NGC3982> Something that still puzzles me about Heroes 3, though. 19:54:33 <NGC3982> There is a short music piece that was used when morning struck 19:55:00 <Eddi|zuHause> <NGC3982> This is from the time when games did not allow you to solve being a twat-face by pressing "A" at a quicktime event. <-- i have no clue what that sentence means... 19:55:01 <NGC3982> And i noticed that the piece was re-used in lot's of different games and tv series troughout the years. 19:55:12 *** ntoskrnl [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:55:47 <Superuser> also, still on the previous topic (oh me), Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup has been progressively getting worse, the resting issue is really huge now. Meanwhile, ToME4 has slowly been moving up my list as it is an excellently designed roguelike, I feel the skills are a bit too... extremely fleshed-out in ToME4 though 19:55:57 <NGC3982> Eddi|zuHause: I was refering to the fact that modern games are very linear, even those who try not to. 19:56:00 <Eddi|zuHause> that happens a lot when you buy samples from a random library 19:56:14 <NGC3982> Eddi|zuHause: And that H3 excelled in being a hard game if you choose to play it like that. 19:56:17 <Superuser> note that most major roguelikes have game designers on the time who do not write code and just philosophise and come up with ideas. 19:56:39 <Eddi|zuHause> there are bound to be overlaps with other people who bought from the same library 19:57:00 <Superuser> NetHack (the most famous roguelike), didn't though, which is why it has all that feature creep. It also follows the Hack-like philosophy to the letter 19:57:31 <Superuser> which is good :) Hack-likes are the best roguelike games, band-likes (and Angband itself), are frankly, really shitty games. No wonder there's so many variants 19:57:39 <Superuser> wouldn't you all agree? 19:58:03 <Eddi|zuHause> is that still english that you write? 19:58:32 <Superuser> haha, good point, I guess this is not #rgrd on Quakenet... 19:58:46 <Superuser> (roguelike games, roguelike development) 20:01:16 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 20:16:45 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 20:24:58 *** dada__ [~dada_@dhcp-077-250-097-191.chello.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:26:01 *** dada78641 [~dada_@dhcp-077-250-097-191.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 20:26:10 *** dada78641 [~dada_@dhcp-077-250-097-191.chello.nl] has quit [] 20:26:15 *** dada_ [~dada_@dhcp-077-250-097-191.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 20:29:26 *** DanMacK [~AndChat61@74.198.9.229] has joined #openttd 20:36:52 *** Flygon_ [Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has joined #openttd 20:36:53 *** Flygon [Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:38:34 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d108-180-123-63.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 20:40:58 *** kero [~keikoz@1.4.69.86.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Quit: kero] 20:42:21 *** Jupix [~jupix@dsl-lprbrasgw1-ff11c100-110.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:48:15 *** DanMacK [~AndChat61@74.198.9.229] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:53:20 *** Sturmi [~sturmi@p4FEDCB2F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:55:25 *** Hyronymus [~Thunderbi@5ED1CCB7.cm-7-2d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 20:57:31 *** Hyronymus is now known as Guest430 20:57:34 *** Hyronymus [~chatzilla@5ED1CCB7.cm-7-2d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 21:09:48 *** Sturmi [~sturmi@p4FEDCB2F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:11:44 <andythenorth> hmm 21:11:52 <andythenorth> searching for developers is hard :P 21:12:31 <andythenorth> as usual /me is looking for python devs :P 21:13:22 <Superuser> Ruby anyone? 21:17:31 <Rubidium> sorry andythenorth , but I don't like python for non-technical reasons 21:18:32 *** Flygon_ [Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:18:52 *** Flygon_ [Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has joined #openttd 21:18:54 <andythenorth> Rubidium: you can haz a job already anyway :) 21:21:42 *** Flygon [Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has joined #openttd 21:21:42 *** Flygon_ [Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:36:06 <andythenorth> ugh 21:36:14 <andythenorth> one of our WP sites just got pwned 21:36:16 <andythenorth> how dull 21:37:56 <Rubidium> oh... wordperfect still exists?!? ;) 21:38:34 <Kylie_> Rubidium: could it mean wordpress 21:39:52 *** Netsplit resistance.oftc.net <-> synthon.oftc.net quits: Devroush, Pinkbeast, Progman, DDR, Nat_aS, Sturmi, valhallasw, Zeknurn, oskari89, @SmatZ, (+3 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 21:40:07 *** Netsplit over, joins: Pinkbeast 21:40:51 *** Netsplit over, joins: @SmatZ, Sturmi, DDR, Devroush, oskari89, Progman, frosch123, Nat_aS, valhallasw, Zeknurn (+2 more) 21:47:46 <Warod> andythenorth: properly upgraded? 21:47:54 <andythenorth> nah 21:48:04 <Warod> andythenorth: Is it on a shared webhosting? 21:48:21 <andythenorth> nah 21:53:17 *** Sturmi [~sturmi@p4FEDCB2F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Sturmi] 21:56:21 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d108-180-123-63.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:57:13 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d108-180-123-63.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 21:59:32 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has left #openttd [] 22:04:05 <frosch123> night 22:04:09 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590ff57a.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:06:09 *** FLHerne [~quassel@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:06:42 *** FLHerne [~quassel@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 22:09:30 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 22:09:52 *** George [~George@212.113.107.39] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:20:01 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:20:02 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5e0097ae.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 22:22:26 *** Guest430 [~Thunderbi@5ED1CCB7.cm-7-2d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Quit: Guest430] 22:23:19 *** Hyronymus [~chatzilla@5ED1CCB7.cm-7-2d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89 [Firefox 17.0/20121119183901]] 22:25:41 *** Flygon [Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:55:08 *** sla_ro|vista [slaco@89.137.75.224] has quit [Quit: DANGER sla.ro is OFFLINE DANGER] 22:57:38 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1AAFE.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:01:16 *** kais58_ [~kais58@cpc2-cwma8-2-0-cust293.7-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 23:01:58 *** kais58 [~kais58@cpc2-cwma8-2-0-cust293.7-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:04:13 <Terkhen> good night 23:28:40 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has quit [] 23:28:53 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:29:18 *** Sturmi [~sturmi@p4FEDCB2F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 23:30:00 *** MNIM [~mBuntu@ip5452ffad.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has joined #openttd 23:37:48 *** mahmoud [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-80-240.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]