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I musta done something wrong 05:22:35 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-68-175-24-89.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Snail] 05:39:19 <Eddi|zuHause> you removed the road under the town sign 05:47:01 *** perk11 [~perk11@broadband-46-242-13-101.nationalcablenetworks.ru] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! 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[Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 14:15:12 <Belugas> hello 14:20:34 <Eddi|zuHause> Flygon_: which part of that was confusing? 14:20:41 <Flygon_> Nevermind 14:20:44 <Flygon_> I think I figured it out 14:20:47 *** Flygon_ is now known as Flygon 14:20:52 <Flygon> People are living in Brussels again 14:32:36 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-208-105-82-227.nyc.biz.rr.com] has joined #openttd 14:34:23 *** andythenorth [~Andy@rubberductions.plus.com] has joined #openttd 14:38:21 <andythenorth> bonsoir 14:42:03 <andythenorth> http://www.folklore.org/StoryView.py?project=Macintosh&story=You_Guys_Are_In_Big_Trouble.txt&sortOrder=Sort%20by%20Date&detail=medium&search=alarm 14:42:07 *** chester_ [~chester@128-68-193-79.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 14:42:08 <andythenorth> oops 14:42:09 <andythenorth> wrong place 14:42:12 <andythenorth> ignore that :) 14:42:21 <Pikka> bonpoisson 14:42:28 * Pikka ignores 14:42:28 <andythenorth> apples 14:50:35 <andythenorth> I need some pokey funny trucks 14:50:46 <andythenorth> esoteric crap 14:54:03 <Eddi|zuHause> you spent too much time around V453000 14:54:06 <andythenorth> http://www.commercialmotor.com/big-lorry-blog/strange-trucks-and-weird-waggo#.UUCHEkK3CXI 14:54:58 *** Pokka [~Octomom@d58-106-3-118.rdl801.qld.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 14:55:00 <Pokka> that's torn it 14:56:50 *** Pikka [~Octomom@d58-106-2-245.rdl801.qld.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:57:13 *** Pokka is now known as Pikka 15:00:35 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD558D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 15:02:05 <andythenorth> rolligons are more HEQS I guess http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Q5GWc46SESE/TJNg1lPM0DI/AAAAAAAACr0/ZMxJGNC67yc/s1600/Catco+snow+truck.jpg 15:05:23 <andythenorth> http://www.commercialmotor.com/big-lorry-blog/weird-trucks-on-biglorryblogit#.UUCJ7kK3CXI 15:10:55 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-208-105-82-227.nyc.biz.rr.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:12:10 *** 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[~rafael@78.157.7.34] has joined #openttd 17:04:58 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has joined #openttd 17:11:54 *** MrPuschel [c325eaed@ircip2.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 17:13:43 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5ac158d4.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 17:14:03 <MrPuschel> Hello, i ran into some trouble with the 1.2.3 linux generic. May i ask a question here? 17:14:40 * blathijs points at the topic ("Don't ask to ask, just ask") 17:14:54 <blathijs> So fire away :-) 17:15:19 <MrPuschel> Oh, alright ~ 17:16:19 *** Nukel [4fc932e2@ircip4.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 17:17:49 <MrPuschel> I'm running the 1.2.3 generic x86 on my linux machine. I have some trouble getting NewGRF plugins to work. If i edit the openttd.cfg manually, the entries get deleted after the server shuts down. I assume because the files cannot be found. I've tried all the folders suggested in the wiki in either the install directory or ~/.openttd. I also tried to... 17:18:46 <MrPuschel> ...download them from the repository using content update/select/download. They get downloaded to baseset/content_download/ but won't load. Also there's no record under [newgrf] in the openttd.cfg after the download. 17:20:57 <frosch123> the latter is correct 17:21:06 <frosch123> downloading content does not imply activating it 17:21:31 <frosch123> usually it is easiest to set up the configuration with a gui client 17:21:37 <frosch123> and then either transfer the savegame 17:21:43 <frosch123> or to copy the config 17:22:02 <frosch123> if you copy configs between linux and windows you need to replace path separators in the config 17:22:07 <frosch123> \ vs / 17:22:14 <blathijs> Ristovski: Also, OpenTTD saves its settings to openttd.cfg on shutdown, so you should only change it manually while OpenTTD is not running 17:22:27 <blathijs> uh, s/Ristovski/MrPuschel/ 17:24:41 <MrPuschel> Thank you, i just solved it. I'm incredibly stupid. Since the tars are threatened like directories i should have replaced the path specific characters like you said. Oh geez. 17:25:29 <MrPuschel> So thanks frosch123 and blathijs 17:28:57 <Ristovski> lol 17:31:49 *** Tvel [~Thunderbi@212.36.5.170] has quit [Quit: Tvel] 17:36:03 *** goodger [~ben@host86-148-68-0.range86-148.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: goodger] 17:36:59 *** goodger [~ben@host86-148-68-0.range86-148.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 17:37:32 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD558D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:50:09 *** sla_ro|master [sla_romas@89.137.75.224] has joined #openttd 17:58:32 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-017-018.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 18:18:08 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@wirenat-ulcn.strw.leidenuniv.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:22:35 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:22:47 <peter1138> threatened? 18:27:33 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 18:31:11 *** MrPuschel [c325eaed@ircip2.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 18:36:11 <NGC3982> Evening, animals and and liberals. 18:53:29 <V453000> it is boring when there is no rage going on at forums 18:53:46 <V453000> or drama at least 18:54:21 *** glx [glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 18:54:24 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 18:55:15 <Pinkbeast> V453: I'll go post about Simuscape, shall I? # joke 18:55:54 <V453000> nah that is a poor topic 18:56:03 <V453000> need something better 18:56:27 <frosch123> shall we release 2.0 to attract a 3.0 topic? 18:57:25 <peter1138> :) 18:57:37 <peter1138> OpenTTD 2013 18:58:07 <V453000> :DDD 18:58:14 <V453000> yes please frosch123 18:58:36 <V453000> replace all sprites with unicorns 18:58:57 <V453000> newGRF specs: unicorns: 1 or 0; 18:59:17 <frosch123> ah, yeah, grf version 9 should require a unicorn in the grf 18:59:20 <V453000> difficulty settings: unicorns 1 or 0; (0 closes game) 19:02:44 <frosch123> actually... why wait for 2.0 to open a 3.0 topic? 19:04:34 <V453000> :DDD 19:11:43 <V453000> perhaps some cargo distribution discussion would do 19:13:11 <Pinkbeast> "The OTTD devs should stop wasting their time on such an obsolete game and contribute to P1 Sim" 19:14:55 <V453000> ? :D 19:18:41 <V453000> where did you find that treasure? 19:18:56 <frosch123> i would hope he just made it up :) 19:19:46 <V453000> I wouldnt be surprised if he didnt :) 19:20:06 <frosch123> Pinkbeast: anyway, we are all into freerct :) 19:20:13 *** ZxBiohazardZx [~IceChat77@5ED05D6D.cm-7-1b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 19:21:59 <Eddi|zuHause> change the releasename from 1.3.0 to 13.0 19:22:16 <Eddi|zuHause> because it aligns better with years 19:22:24 *** CornishPasty [uid158@hillingdon.irccloud.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:23:57 <frosch123> hmm, and .0 is released at the end of the first quarter? 19:24:27 <frosch123> or is it just scheduled for the first quarter with the usual delay in software development? 19:24:39 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has joined #openttd 19:27:38 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:28:20 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 19:28:24 *** ZxBiohazardZx [~IceChat77@5ED05D6D.cm-7-1b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has left #openttd [] 19:35:43 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r25085 /trunk/src/lang (3 files) (2013-03-13 18:45:34 UTC) 19:35:43 *** Progman [~progman@p57A197FD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:35:44 <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 19:35:45 <DorpsGek> czech - 7 changes by Eskymak 19:35:46 <DorpsGek> english_US - 2 changes by Rubidium 19:35:47 <DorpsGek> polish - 2 changes by wojteks86 19:38:38 *** ccfreak2k [~ccfreak2k@2605:6400:2:fed5:22:0:6979:842d] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net] 19:39:12 <Terkhen> hello 19:42:13 *** andythenorth [~Andy@rubberductions.plus.com] has joined #openttd 19:45:40 *** andythenorth [~Andy@rubberductions.plus.com] has quit [] 19:53:47 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 19:55:15 *** Biolunar [mahdi@blfd-5d821db8.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 19:57:31 *** ccfreak2k [~ccfreak2k@haqua.4chan.fm] has joined #openttd 20:02:20 *** CornishPasty [uid158@hillingdon.irccloud.com] has joined #openttd 20:02:51 *** Pol [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 20:07:12 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d154-20-134-85.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 20:08:34 *** ccfreak2k [~ccfreak2k@haqua.4chan.fm] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:10:10 *** Nukel [4fc932e2@ircip4.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 20:11:04 *** ccfreak2k [~ccfreak2k@2605:6400:2:fed5:22:0:6979:842d] has joined #openttd 20:19:00 <Eddi|zuHause> so... since apparently nobody wants to include my proposal into NML, how would i go about patching nml myself on the devzone? 20:32:48 <Eddi|zuHause> Ammler, planetmaker: any suggestions? 20:45:15 *** Alberth [~hat3@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 20:45:18 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 20:45:38 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:45:55 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has joined #openttd 20:47:19 *** Pol [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:13:27 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:16:35 <Eddi|zuHause> now i know! the version should be 2.13.4! 21:16:44 <Ammler> Eddi|zuHause: create a "fork", use this for cets 21:17:05 <Eddi|zuHause> Ammler: that sounds awfully difficult to set up and maintain 21:17:14 <Ammler> why? 21:17:29 <Ammler> clone, merge, done 21:18:20 <Eddi|zuHause> Ammler: i mean, it requires more than 3 commands to set up if you don't have experience, and it requires manual involvement if the base is updated 21:18:46 *** Flygon_ [~Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has joined #openttd 21:19:04 <Ammler> can you imagine a easier way? 21:19:10 <Eddi|zuHause> Ammler: i was hoping for a "put 'patch -f -i <blah>' into a build script" or something 21:19:24 <Ammler> yes, do that 21:19:46 <Eddi|zuHause> but it shouldn't be in the makefile 21:19:50 <Eddi|zuHause> so where to put it? 21:19:54 <Ammler> how is that more work than a merge? :-) 21:20:08 <Eddi|zuHause> i don't know 21:20:11 <Ammler> clone, nml, patch or whatever you like it 21:20:22 <Ammler> clone nml to eddi-nml 21:20:28 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm really not fluent in hg or devzone 21:21:00 <Eddi|zuHause> if i link you to the patch file, would you set it up? 21:21:25 <Ammler> yes, I could, and you need it for cets? 21:21:33 <Eddi|zuHause> yes 21:22:10 <Ammler> what is so special about the patch, that nml devs don't want it? 21:22:11 <Eddi|zuHause> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/3812/nml_comment2.patch 21:22:23 <Eddi|zuHause> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4991#change-13334 21:22:57 <Ammler> coldn't it be possible, it is just not done yet? 21:22:59 <Eddi|zuHause> nobody reacted, really... the only reply from people were "i'm not involved enough to judge whether this change is sensible" 21:23:04 <Ammler> and not rejected 21:23:50 <Eddi|zuHause> nobody said anything about rejected 21:24:23 <Ammler> well, I can do that, but actionc is very useless imo :-) 21:24:31 <Ammler> only useful for decompiling 21:24:33 *** Flygon_ [~Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 21:24:34 *** Flygon_ [~Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has joined #openttd 21:24:37 <Eddi|zuHause> but it's stuck in this state, and i need to move on with a way that doesn't depend on an nml dev reacting 21:25:11 <Alberth> nml dev is vey much dead 21:25:15 *** Flygon [~Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:25:28 <Ammler> sounds evil 21:25:52 <Alberth> I haven't seen either y3xo or hyrundo for ages 21:26:27 <Ammler> then I vote for making eddi nml dev :-P 21:26:32 <Eddi|zuHause> also, i may have another patch next for a really experimental feature that probably should not get into "official" nml at all (yet) 21:26:55 <frosch123> forking is most likely easiest 21:27:06 <Ammler> yes, we can do that anyway 21:27:11 <frosch123> call it "linking nml" or "distributed nml" 21:27:14 <Ammler> what name would you prefer for the fork? 21:27:18 <Ammler> ok 21:27:35 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 21:27:37 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:27:39 <frosch123> Eddi|zuHause: that actionc thingie is only needed for the linking, right? 21:27:50 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, effectively 21:28:11 <Ammler> but if you add other features as well 21:28:13 <Eddi|zuHause> for my "workaround"-ish thingie 21:28:18 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 21:28:22 <Ammler> maybe better call it something else 21:28:27 <frosch123> hmm, neigther "linking" nor "distributed" can be sanely abbreviated with "e" :p 21:28:34 <Ammler> new-nml :-P 21:29:08 <Alberth> 'linking' is not quite what people consider linking normally, imho 21:29:17 <Alberth> eddi-nml :p 21:29:30 *** chester_1 [~chester@95-26-251-28.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 21:29:35 <Ammler> yeah, let's call it eddi-nml for now 21:29:40 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm not quite sure i like where this discussion is heading :p 21:29:44 <frosch123> hmm, what is a catchy term for dividing a monolithical build process into independent compile units/modules and linking them? 21:29:59 <Alberth> modular compile? 21:30:13 <frosch123> mnml? 21:30:25 <Alberth> mege-nml :p 21:30:29 <Alberth> *mega 21:30:43 <Alberth> multi-nml 21:31:32 <Alberth> hmm, something fancy for splitting a problem into pieces.. 21:31:45 <frosch123> devide&conquer usually :) 21:31:49 <frosch123> *divide 21:31:51 <Ammler> https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/eddi-nml 21:32:00 <Ammler> the repo will come up soon... 21:32:17 <Alberth> the sys-admin has decided :) 21:32:31 *** chester_ [~chester@128-68-193-79.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:32:44 <frosch123> Eddi|zuHause: 1. clone that new repo, 2. pull from old nml, 3. add your stuff 4. push 21:32:55 <Ammler> well, I consider my name as a temporary fork... 21:33:43 <frosch123> nothing is more endurable than something temporary 21:33:52 <Alberth> excactly :) 21:34:09 <Eddi|zuHause> pretty much :) 21:34:41 <Ammler> Eddi|zuHause: frosch quite much gave you the manual, how to patch it :-) 21:35:00 <Ammler> do I still need to do it for you? 21:35:29 <Eddi|zuHause> depending on how temporary it should be: patch-queue? 21:35:52 <frosch123> that's a pain for the compile farm to catch 21:35:56 <frosch123> i would think 21:36:29 *** Flygon [~Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has joined #openttd 21:36:30 *** Flygon_ [~Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:37:40 <Eddi|zuHause> i certainly won't do "branches" or "releases" 21:38:18 <Ammler> Eddi|zuHause: how you merge the patch is up to you 21:38:51 <Ammler> devzone compiler just needs a repo which it can build 21:39:27 <Eddi|zuHause> if i have a nml checkout with the patch applied, can i just "push" to the new (empty) repo and it will do stuff? 21:39:29 <Ammler> it should not be that hard to apply a patch and then merge future changes 21:40:03 <Eddi|zuHause> it won't be "hard", but i'm allergic to anything that needs manual input :) 21:40:14 <Ammler> yes, it should, plrease edit the .devzone and disable/remove release build 21:40:55 <Eddi|zuHause> the backup.push as well? 21:41:04 <Ammler> manual input? 21:41:08 <Ammler> yes 21:41:44 *** Flygon [~Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 21:41:53 *** Flygon [~Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has joined #openttd 21:41:54 <Ammler> hmm, something very bad happen on our server, someone/something removed all compiler script and the guy which made the backup stuff is quite much absent 21:42:27 <frosch123> someone/something removed the backup guy :o 21:43:33 <Ammler> I guess, the issue happen because we reached quota limit 21:44:00 <Ammler> but no clue how... 21:44:39 <Ammler> Eddi|zuHause: do you have ssh access to our repo server? 21:45:04 <Eddi|zuHause> i don't think i ever tried 21:45:28 <frosch123> if you did not hand out your public key, you won't have access :) 21:45:53 <Ammler> well, I cloned manually nml to eddi-nml for now 21:46:06 <Ammler> you should be able to push now 21:47:55 <Eddi|zuHause> i'll probably break everything now :/ 21:48:39 <Ammler> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/cets/repository/entry/.devzone/build/requires <-- edit nml to eddi-nml 21:49:10 <Eddi|zuHause> hm, i get a 404 when trying to push to "https://Eddi@push.openttdcoop.org/eddi-nml" 21:49:42 <Eddi|zuHause> (i copied that link from how i set up push for cets) 21:50:50 <planetmaker> Eddi|zuHause, I was hoping to get some input from hirundo and yexo on that patch 21:51:10 <Ammler> yeah, it is an issue on our side, I need that script back :-( 21:51:50 <planetmaker> Especially as I'm not 100% convinced myself tbh, yet I see the advantage 21:57:37 <Ammler> Eddi|zuHause: could you try again (push) 21:57:37 <Ammler> Eddi|zuHause: I would recommend to use push instead nightly 21:57:37 <Ammler> for triggering building and using on cets 21:57:38 <Ammler> (in that case you would need to change requires from "nml" to "push;eddi-nml" 21:58:16 <Eddi|zuHause> ah, yes, i'll do that 22:00:50 <Eddi|zuHause> of course i didn't set the username before the commits :/ 22:00:59 *** Flygon [~Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:01:40 <Ammler> yeah, you should, would make it easier to pull your changes back to the nml repo, if nml dev like to :-) 22:02:17 *** Flygon [~Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has joined #openttd 22:02:44 <Eddi|zuHause> "added 2073 changesets with 4857 changes to 331 files (+2 heads)" 22:03:02 <Eddi|zuHause> but the web-repo viewer is really slow at listing the changesets 22:03:13 <Ammler> sounds about right since I deleted the clone and created a empty repo 22:03:38 <Ammler> http://hg.openttdcoop.org/eddi-nml 22:04:32 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-208-105-82-227.nyc.biz.rr.com] has joined #openttd 22:04:36 <supermop> hi 22:04:48 <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, that looks right, but https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/eddi-nml/repository is only very slowly adding revisions 22:04:57 <Ammler> yep 22:05:07 <Ammler> it needs around 1s per change 22:05:32 <Ammler> redmine is not really fork friendly 22:07:28 <frosch123> better spoon-feed the forks :p 22:09:19 <Eddi|zuHause> http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/eddi-nml/releases/ERROR/ <-- that does not look right 22:09:27 <Ammler> I guess, you also need to make a dummy push now, else it might not build the push 22:11:17 <Ammler> Eddi|zuHause: I would not bother since you wouldn't need it anyway ;-) 22:11:44 *** Flygon [~Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 22:15:26 *** Flygon_ [~Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has joined #openttd 22:26:48 *** Flygon_ [~Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 22:26:59 *** Flygon [~Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has joined #openttd 22:30:12 <frosch123> night 22:30:15 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f7e41.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:31:01 <Eddi|zuHause> Ammler: i pushed something, but it doesn't show up :/ 22:35:39 <Alberth> RM is a bit slow at times 22:36:45 <Alberth> the last weekend (and the one before) I had to wait between 10 and 40 minutes before Brot reported changes 22:37:18 *** Alberth [~hat3@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 22:37:38 <Eddi|zuHause> ok, the commit now shows up, but no push build 22:39:40 *** Flygon [~Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:42:03 <Terkhen> good night 22:45:59 *** Ristovski [~rafael@78.157.7.34] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:00:29 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 23:01:53 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: c('~' )o] 23:05:32 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 23:05:35 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 23:07:11 <andythenorth> hmm 23:07:16 <andythenorth> map-reduce-nml 23:07:21 <andythenorth> no frosch? :P 23:20:41 *** St3f [~Anonymous@53577204.cm-6-8b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 23:20:56 <supermop> hey andy, why no passenger station in chips? 23:22:03 *** Tvel [~Thunderbi@84.40.82.221] has joined #openttd 23:22:26 <Eddi|zuHause> there are plenty of passenger station grfs out there 23:23:11 *** sla_ro|master [sla_romas@89.137.75.224] has quit [Quit: connection reset by myself] 23:24:23 <andythenorth> what eddi said 23:24:32 <andythenorth> also I use the default pax station a lot 23:26:03 <Eddi|zuHause> i use newstations mostly 23:27:46 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:29:24 <andythenorth> bed time eh :P 23:29:26 <andythenorth> bye 23:29:27 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 23:39:35 <Eddi|zuHause> Ammler: http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/eddi-nml/push/ERROR/r2073/ err... i have no clue what that means 23:40:57 <Ammler> Eddi|zuHause: killed by me as you see 23:41:16 <Ammler> I missed the 12.3 release 23:42:46 <Eddi|zuHause> ah... 23:43:37 <Ammler> tumbleweed sucks a bit :-) 23:44:01 <Ammler> it is useless as it is based on a release distro 23:44:18 <Ammler> so you still need kinda upgrade every release 23:49:30 <Ammler> Eddi|zuHause: I will check tomorrow, sorry :-( 23:49:50 <Ammler> s/a bit/a lot/ 23:50:31 <Ammler> good night... 23:53:53 *** Zuu_ [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 23:56:29 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-208-105-82-227.nyc.biz.rr.com] has left #openttd []