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00:05:58 *** Celestar_ [~vici@mnch-5d855739.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:23:16 *** akruz [~drax@177.197.110.216] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:42:16 *** akruz [~drax@201-4-32-166.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #openttd 01:13:30 *** akruz [~drax@201-4-32-166.user.veloxzone.com.br] has quit [Quit: Saindo] 01:32:23 *** Fuco_ [dota.keys@server.dasnet.cz] has quit [Server closed connection] 01:32:25 *** Fuco [dota.keys@server.dasnet.cz] has joined #openttd 01:35:39 *** timmytwot [~TimmyTwoT@pool-100-40-57-129.prvdri.fios.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 01:37:02 <timmytwot> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WPafswrC64 01:37:27 *** timmytwot [~TimmyTwoT@pool-100-40-57-129.prvdri.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:08:43 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-213-220-193-253.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! 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06:46:14 <dihedral> greetings 07:02:32 *** Twofish [~Twofish@0001308f.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 07:13:33 *** sla_ro|master [sla_romas@89.137.75.224] has joined #openttd 07:15:03 *** masch [~quassel@2001:41d0:2:b63b::1] has quit [Server closed connection] 07:15:05 *** masch [~quassel@2001:41d0:2:b63b::1] has joined #openttd 07:30:47 *** Flygon_ [~Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has joined #openttd 07:30:48 *** Flygon [~Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:56:28 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has joined #openttd 08:14:31 *** M1zera [~Miranda@ip-78-102-228-126.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:22:43 *** Pikka [~Octomom@d58-106-3-118.rdl801.qld.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 08:22:56 <Pikka> snowbody here butters chickens 08:25:05 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 08:26:38 <V453000> I think written tutorials are best all in all for anything OpenTTD related Zuu 08:26:47 <V453000> and I have already written some amount of stuff that way :P 08:27:23 <Zuu> Yeah I've seen your document on map creation :-) 08:28:06 <V453000> uh, that one is kind of an exception, having a blog/wiki page is a lot better maintainable 08:28:33 <V453000> but for that pdf was nicer :) 08:29:31 <V453000> either way, what I meant to say was, in videos people get only like 50% of the information you actually tell them ... unless the caster is really good at talking 08:29:46 <V453000> while they can read written text line by line multiple times 08:30:16 <V453000> also in OpenTTD you often mention the same words and/or explain complicated things, which I really have a hard time explaining without writing it 08:33:14 <V453000> static images with text do wonders :) 08:42:24 <Pikka> video tutorials are terrible 08:42:47 <Pikka> I do not want to watch a half-hour video for the one little piece of information I need and which probably isn't in there anyway 08:48:54 <V453000> cant ctrl F in them either 08:48:58 <V453000> tru 08:52:16 *** George [~George@212.113.107.39] has joined #openttd 08:59:26 <planetmaker> good morning 09:02:05 <V453000> elo 09:13:32 *** George|2 [~George@212.113.107.39] has joined #openttd 09:13:32 *** George is now known as Guest2590 09:13:32 *** George|2 is now known as George 09:15:08 *** Pensacola [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:15:09 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-29-29.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 09:20:21 *** Guest2590 [~George@212.113.107.39] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:20:26 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:26:04 *** George [~George@212.113.107.39] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:26:15 *** Ristovski [~rafael@78.157.7.34] has joined #openttd 09:33:12 *** KenjiE20 [kenjie20@2001:470:dc50:b0::21] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:36:07 *** goodger [~ben@host86-146-153-251.range86-146.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 09:41:01 *** Maedhros [~maedhros@232.55.112.87.dyn.plus.net] has joined #openttd 09:47:31 *** George [~George@212.113.107.39] has joined #openttd 09:56:52 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:57:41 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has joined #openttd 10:02:20 <Ristovski> will doing "exit" in the dedicated server console save the map before quitting? 10:03:44 <V453000> one way to find out :P 10:15:54 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d154-20-134-100.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Quit: DDR is not Dance Dance Revolution.] 10:32:03 <Eddi|zuHause> i don't really remember whether there was an "autosave on exit" feature in this game, but if there was, there'd be an option about it 10:35:29 *** Kurimus [~stabbity@dsl-tkubrasgw3-50dd93-34.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 10:43:41 <peter1139> it doesn't 10:49:31 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:49:59 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD472D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 10:51:46 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-213-220-193-253.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 10:52:09 *** sla_ro|master [sla_romas@89.137.75.224] has quit [Quit: connection reset by myself] 11:02:42 <Bonez305> how much RAM is needed for a 1024x1024 server map ? 11:24:03 *** Tvel [~Thunderbi@212.36.5.170] has joined #openttd 11:24:09 *** Pikka [~Octomom@d58-106-3-118.rdl801.qld.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:25:55 <dihedral> Ristovski, you could use a script, alias its execution to something like saveexit which does that job for you ;-) 11:26:50 <dihedral> Bonez305, that depends on how advanced the game is ;-) 11:26:57 <Ristovski> oh yeah, that too 11:27:18 <Ristovski> would be cool if openttd could use a real scripting lang., like python or lua 11:27:47 <dihedral> you can connect to openttd with python via a dedicated protocol just for that purpose 11:28:02 <Ristovski> hmm.. 11:28:18 <dihedral> https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/joan aims to do this in java 11:28:42 <dihedral> my main issue is time ;-) 11:28:53 <dihedral> else the implementation of that would be further than it is currently 11:28:59 <Ristovski> nice 11:29:24 <dihedral> https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/grapes <- this is the state of implementing joan 11:30:21 <dihedral> our for lunch ... 11:42:58 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:44:49 *** KenjiE20 [kenjie20@2001:470:dc50:b0::21] has joined #openttd 11:48:08 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 12:14:57 <planetmaker> Ristovski, there's obviously two java implementations for a library which allows connecting to the admin port and one in python 12:15:59 <planetmaker> besides what dih linked (java), there is https://bitbucket.org/Xaroth/libottdadmin" target="_blank">https://bitbucket.org/Xaroth/libottdadmin (python) and https://bitbucket.org/Xaroth/libottdadmin" target="_blank">https://bitbucket.org/Xaroth/libottdadmin (java) 12:17:50 <Ristovski> oh, nice 12:18:12 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-213-220-193-253.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 12:18:26 <planetmaker> err... 2nd link must read https://github.com/timmy469/openttd-admin 12:19:10 <Ristovski> ill use the python one 12:19:34 <Ristovski> planetmaker: but, I'm looking for a way, to make the server use python as a scripting language 12:20:18 <adamt> Is it possible to tell openttd where to put save games? 12:21:07 <__ln__> Ristovski: who is ill? 12:21:18 <Ristovski> __ln__: clearly you 12:22:08 <planetmaker> what do you want to script in python, Ristovski ? 12:22:17 <adamt> looks like Ristovski is repeating many of my questions from yesterday :-) 12:22:32 <planetmaker> you can write your sever management in python. But the game and ai scripts are needed in squirrel 12:23:07 <Ristovski> planetmaker: hmm.. I mean, openttd can't really run complex scripts 12:23:12 <Ristovski> only like commands/aliases 12:23:19 <planetmaker> ? 12:23:34 <Ristovski> planetmaker: for example, http://wiki.openttd.org/Scripts 12:23:42 <__ln__> \o/ 12:23:56 <Ristovski> you can't make a complex script, since you can only use the commands and aliases 12:24:32 <planetmaker> Ristovski, possibly, yes. But use the admin port for complex stuff 12:24:39 <Ristovski> ok 12:24:57 <planetmaker> there you can interface openttd and write in your own script whatever you need. And you know what's going on by monitoring what's going on 12:25:11 <planetmaker> thus make callbacks on the events you want to do *whatever* and it should work ;-) 12:27:04 <Ristovski> oh nice 12:27:15 <planetmaker> adamt, maybe you two should sit together and share the workload for better results ;-) 12:27:33 <Ristovski> lol 12:27:45 <adamt> planetmaker, yeah, but although we made similar questions, and not sure our aims is the same. 12:27:56 <adamt> so Ristovski, what are you doing? 12:28:31 <Bonez305> dihedral: what do you mean advanced? like how far along the game is, and how many transports there are? 12:28:33 <Ristovski> adamt: oh nothing, just derping around, I was trying to see if I can make some complex scripts for my server, but ohwell 12:28:45 <planetmaker> The main task is to make the admin script do *something*... 12:29:14 <adamt> so except for both of us probably needing to connect to the port, we're not doing the same. :P 12:29:27 <Ristovski> adamt: yeah 12:29:37 <Ristovski> I am also listing the code to see whats where 12:29:42 *** adam_ [~adam@93-166-250-82-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has joined #openttd 12:32:31 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6DA30.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 12:32:46 *** adamt [~adam@vpn-nat.statsbiblioteket.dk] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 12:35:41 *** adam_ is now known as adamt 12:40:01 <dihedral> Ristovski, with the admin interface you can get notifications and data pushed 12:40:09 <dihedral> your code in turn will then run what is nessesary 12:40:22 <dihedral> e.g. on a new player, or if a player leaves, same with company stuff 12:40:35 <Ristovski> dihedral: tho I need it to run on my PC right? or can I run it on the server too 12:41:02 <dihedral> you can request updates on daily weekly monthly quarterly and yearly (depending on the information your want) 12:41:21 <dihedral> you can run python on the same machine you run the openttd dedicated server 12:41:29 <dihedral> or even from a remote location if you so wish 12:41:38 <dihedral> it is a tcp connection you set up 12:41:57 <Ristovski> oh, ok, ill try it out later 12:46:03 <adamt> what he's saying, is, your script and openttd will run separately, bound together by the admin port talking together over tcp/ip. 12:46:29 <Ristovski> I know 12:46:50 <Ristovski> btw, are .grf's just compressed sprites? 12:47:34 <planetmaker> no 12:47:40 <Ristovski> then? 12:47:56 <Ristovski> planetmaker: I am speaking about OpenGFX's .grf file 12:49:17 <planetmaker> well... sprites, yes... but expecially the ogfx_extra.grf contains also loads of pseudo sprites 12:49:30 <Ristovski> what format are .grf's? 12:49:35 <planetmaker> grf format 12:49:38 <Ristovski> I mean, how can one extract the sprites 12:49:39 <dihedral> binary :-D 12:49:45 <Ristovski> oh, binary? 12:49:48 <dihedral> ungrf 12:49:52 <dihedral> :-P 12:49:55 <planetmaker> grfcodec -d 12:49:56 * dihedral is being silly 12:50:10 <Ristovski> planetmaker: thanks 12:50:57 <planetmaker> Ristovski, grf are written in their own programming languages, compiled by their own compiler 12:51:10 <Ristovski> o_O 12:51:28 <planetmaker> http://newgrf-specs.tt-wiki.net/wiki/Main_Page and http://newgrf-specs.tt-wiki.net/wiki/NML:Main respectively 12:51:41 <planetmaker> a grf can be way more than just image sprites 12:51:53 <Ristovski> good to know 12:52:14 <planetmaker> it can contain desription and behavioural logic for basically all map components 12:52:40 <planetmaker> s/map component/game objects/ 12:52:42 <planetmaker> or whatever 12:53:56 <Ristovski> planetmaker: can I use grfcodec -d on all the .grf files? 12:54:06 <planetmaker> opengfx itself as a base set is one of the most simple forms of grfs, though. 5 of the 6 grf are indeed only compilation of real sprites 12:54:08 <__ln__> is the grf-ese language turing complete? 12:55:27 <__ln__> and can GCC be made compile e.g. C into a grf? 12:56:24 <Ristovski> planetmaker: hmm.. Error opening ogfxc_arctic.grf/ogfx1_base.nfo: Not a directory 12:56:25 <planetmaker> yes. iirc nearly, yes. Get started writing plugin ;-) 12:57:25 <__ln__> so if the whole OpenTTD could be compiled into a grf, .... 12:57:29 <planetmaker> depending on what you want to do, Ristovski, you're better off getting opengfx' or the newgrf's source code 12:57:59 <Ristovski> planetmaker: how can I do that? 12:58:07 <planetmaker> read the readme of opengfx 12:59:04 <Ristovski> hmm, I dont see how to obtain the source code anywhere 12:59:33 <planetmaker> 6 License 12:59:39 <planetmaker> 6.1 Obtaining the source 12:59:40 <planetmaker> o_O 12:59:41 <Ristovski> oh 12:59:56 <Ristovski> there isnt any 6.1 tho 13:00:04 <planetmaker> Just noticed :D 13:00:08 <Ristovski> lol 13:00:15 <Ristovski> brb, lunch 13:00:24 <planetmaker> but read the readme, it#s in there... 13:05:12 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@eduroam-26.felk.cvut.cz] has joined #openttd 13:07:09 <Ristovski> and back 13:07:51 <Ristovski> planetmaker: http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/opengfx/releases ? 13:07:54 <Ristovski> that? 13:08:42 <__ln__> that's the shortest lunch i've seen. 13:09:04 <planetmaker> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opengfx 13:09:37 <Ristovski> __ln__: I eat quick 13:09:54 <Ristovski> but yeah, this was pretty fast 13:10:01 <Ristovski> normally it takes ~10mins for me 13:13:55 *** roboboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 13:16:13 <planetmaker> Ristovski, if you do not want to make use of mercuria to obtain the source, the link you gave might be better 13:16:22 <planetmaker> but generally using the VCS is the much preferred way 13:18:37 <Ristovski> ok 13:21:27 <V453000> puuush 13:22:38 <planetmaker> hm... 13 minutes compile time for OpenGFX on our server :D 13:23:00 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@eduroam-26.felk.cvut.cz] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 13:23:10 <Ristovski> planetmaker: -j3 ftw 13:23:18 <Ristovski> or how many cores you got + 1 13:23:22 <planetmaker> explicitly limited to -j1 13:23:28 <Ristovski> why? 13:23:39 <planetmaker> gimp scripting barfs when run too much in parallel 13:23:47 <Ristovski> ah 13:24:00 <Ristovski> brb, gotta go buy something, afk 13:24:04 <planetmaker> otherwise -j9 ;-) 14:14:44 *** ntoskrnl [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 14:25:31 *** Elukka [Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 14:51:43 *** Twofish [~Twofish@0001308f.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:04:50 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has joined #openttd 15:44:55 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:46:43 <Ristovski> back 15:46:52 <Ristovski> planetmaker: octacore? nice 15:46:58 <planetmaker> i7 15:47:27 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-213-220-193-253.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 15:47:34 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has joined #openttd 15:47:46 <Ristovski> planetmaker: hmm, AMD-FX 8350 might be better 15:47:52 <Ristovski> since cheaper, and octacore 15:48:57 <planetmaker> The pricing for that root server in the data centre is quite acceptable. 15:49:13 <planetmaker> it's not like I buy the hardware 15:54:45 <planetmaker> Ristovski, according to http://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html the AMD one is the worse choice 15:55:07 <Ristovski> planetmaker: but for the money, it's good 15:56:16 <V453000> 4000 dollars for a cpu :DDD 15:58:53 <planetmaker> obviously not for the big hosting providers 15:59:13 <V453000> :P 15:59:25 <V453000> I have i7 myself and I cant complain 15:59:35 <planetmaker> nope, me neither :-) Quite happy with it 16:00:13 <V453000> I know you have something very similar to mine we already discussed that :P 16:00:25 <planetmaker> hm, true :-) 16:08:03 *** Defaultti [defaultti@lakka.kapsi.fi] has quit [Server closed connection] 16:08:22 *** Defaultti [defaultti@lakka.kapsi.fi] has joined #openttd 16:12:51 <peter1139> it's 4 cores 16:12:59 <peter1139> with dual integer units 16:21:01 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5ac158d4.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 16:23:53 *** Flygon__ [~Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has joined #openttd 16:24:12 *** Flygon_ [~Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:25:56 *** root__ [~root@host86-165-37-51.range86-165.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 16:26:31 *** root__ is now known as LordAro 16:29:18 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:29:33 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has joined #openttd 16:30:53 <LordAro> heyo all 16:31:58 *** auvajs [~au@machacek.kolej.mff.cuni.cz] has joined #openttd 16:32:05 <auvajs> hi, anyone here? 16:32:43 <LordAro> i am 16:32:47 <LordAro> ..i think 16:33:03 <auvajs> I am very new to openttd. been trying to run the 32bit graphics, where to put those datas? what directory? 16:33:22 <auvajs> ubuntu 16:33:25 <LordAro> nowadays, you don't need to do anything like that 16:33:44 <LordAro> just go to your download content window in game, and download zBase 16:34:07 *** nicfer [~Administr@190.50.54.2] has joined #openttd 16:34:12 <auvajs> cool 16:34:15 <nicfer> hello 16:34:26 <LordAro> hello nicfer 16:34:29 <planetmaker> auvajs, use the ingame content download 16:34:41 <V453000> el0 16:34:43 <planetmaker> oh, Hi LordAro :-) You were faster :D 16:35:00 <V453000> :) 16:35:20 <auvajs> ok I downloaded it, what's the next step? 16:35:45 <planetmaker> from main menu: game options 16:35:49 <auvajs> ah I see.. it works.. cool! great :-))) 16:36:39 <nicfer> how can I make a wagon to change cargo and give extra power when added to a MU? 16:36:48 <LordAro> heyo planetmaker :) 16:37:47 <V453000> nicfer: powered_wagons 16:37:55 <V453000> you need to have livery override for that 16:38:10 <V453000> see NUTS, monorail Intercity trains 16:38:39 <V453000> nuts.openttdcoop.org 16:39:02 <V453000> assuming you use NML 16:46:04 *** lobstar [~lobster@glosoli.owenrudge.net] has joined #openttd 16:46:04 *** lobster [~lobster@glosoli.owenrudge.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:48:14 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has joined #openttd 16:48:39 *** pugi [~pugi@dyndsl-091-096-058-198.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 17:06:32 *** sla_ro|master [sla_romas@89.137.75.224] has joined #openttd 17:16:49 *** Tvel [~Thunderbi@212.36.5.170] has quit [Quit: Tvel] 17:17:15 *** Celestar [~vici@mnch-5d85760b.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:22:54 *** Dewin [~Daniel@c-76-28-131-143.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 17:26:43 *** Ristovski [~rafael@78.157.7.34] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:31:56 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:33:40 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 17:42:43 <LordAro> loud noises! 17:49:09 *** goodger [~ben@host86-146-153-251.range86-146.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: goodger] 17:49:46 *** goodger [~ben@host86-146-153-251.range86-146.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 17:50:15 *** glx [glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 17:50:18 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 17:50:54 <auvajs> accepted industries: houses - what's that? 17:51:53 <planetmaker> look at a town and think again ;-) 17:52:22 <auvajs> yes but how to transport it? 17:52:35 <V453000> town aint no houses, town is piggybanks and igloos 17:53:09 <planetmaker> house is no cargo. It's a destination 17:54:15 <Pinkbeast> What's the cargo? 17:54:20 <auvajs> yes but where to export "crates of goods" ? 17:54:38 <auvajs> display chains shows "houses" 17:54:47 <Pinkbeast> Where are houses generally found? 17:55:22 <auvajs> so it is to be transported to a town railway station? 17:55:25 <Pinkbeast> When you're creating a station, the interface shows what cargoes it will accept. If you are creating a station in a town, it will sometimes accept goods. 17:55:44 <auvajs> ok thank you :) 17:56:29 <Pinkbeast> Only larger buildings accept goods, which can make it tricky to get them in - sometimes I use goods trams into the centre of town. 18:00:54 <LordAro> perhaps that string (in the display chains) should be changed to "Towns" or something similar 18:04:00 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 18:05:28 *** Progman [~progman@p57A19503.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:08:25 *** Netsplit reticulum.oftc.net <-> charon.oftc.net quits: KenjiE20, brambles, heffer, XeryusTC, guru3, ^Spike^, SmatZ, dotwaffle, TrueBrain, Flygon__, (+10 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 18:10:46 *** Netsplit over, joins: KenjiE20, XeryusTC, SmatZ, Flygon__, Defaultti, Kurimus, @DorpsGek, ^Spike^, TrueBrain, Guilux (+10 more) 18:12:11 *** goodger [~ben@host86-146-153-251.range86-146.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:20:14 <Terkhen> hello 18:21:10 *** mode/#openttd [+o SmatZ] by ChanServ 18:21:10 *** ChanServ changed the topic of #openttd to: 1.2.3, 1.3.0-RC3 | Website: *.openttd.org (translator: translator, server list: servers, wiki: wiki, patches & bug-reports: bugs, revision log: vcs, release info: finger) | Don't ask to ask, just ask | 'Latest' is not a valid version, 'Most recent' neither | English only | #openttd.dev for dev-talk | #openttd.notice for commit notices 18:21:10 *** mode/#openttd [+v DorpsGek] by ChanServ 18:21:10 *** mode/#openttd [+v Terkhen] by ChanServ 18:21:10 *** mode/#openttd [+v Belugas] by ChanServ 18:21:13 *** mode/#openttd [+o Rubidium] by ChanServ 18:25:43 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 18:30:01 *** goodger [~ben@host86-150-31-253.range86-150.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 18:36:28 *** nicfer [~Administr@190.50.54.2] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:45:20 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r25112 /trunk/src/lang (english_AU.txt serbian.txt) (2013-03-21 18:45:13 UTC) 18:45:21 <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 18:45:22 <DorpsGek> english_AU - 1 changes by mrtux 18:45:23 <DorpsGek> serbian - 17 changes by ivan_mile 18:46:11 <LordAro> hello Terkhen 18:46:33 <LordAro> (of course i look at the chat for updates every minute :L ) 19:02:14 *** chester_ [~chester@128-69-209-145.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 19:05:59 *** nicfer [~Administr@190.50.54.2] has joined #openttd 19:06:47 *** M1zera [~Miranda@ip-78-102-228-126.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 19:07:48 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fdddf.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 19:10:44 <LordAro> quak 19:10:51 <frosch123> moin 19:14:32 <LordAro> oh, heyo, linux build of kerbal space program :) 19:14:50 * LordAro resists urge to buy the game immediately 19:17:13 <peter1139> downloading 19:20:31 <LordAro> the demo works rather well via WINE, if a little laggy 19:22:19 <peter1139> i tried it with wine about 2 years ago 19:22:21 <peter1139> didn't run :p 19:22:50 <LordAro> 2 years ago? hardly surprising :P 19:23:10 <Terkhen> what game? 19:23:19 <peter1139> kerbal space program 19:23:23 <LordAro> even my limited knowledge about wine tells me it's got a lot better (with games especially) recently 19:23:31 <LordAro> http://www.kerbalspaceprogram.com 19:23:45 <peter1139> : Too many buttons; using buttons 0 - 19 and ignoring buttons 20 - 22 19:23:50 <peter1139> pff 19:24:01 <LordAro> lol? 19:24:33 <LordAro> how many buttons do you have? 19:25:08 <peter1139> dunno 19:25:14 <peter1139> 23 i guess 19:27:14 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 19:27:29 <Terkhen> strange :P 19:34:51 *** ntoskrnl [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:40:33 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-213-220-193-253.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! 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22:37:00 *** Ttech [~ttech@00014919.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 22:42:47 *** auvajs [~au@machacek.kolej.mff.cuni.cz] has joined #openttd 22:44:00 <nicfer> I found something but for NFO 22:47:57 <Eddi|zuHause> what about reading the NML page that says "livery override" in the title? 22:48:22 <V453000> no 22:49:25 <Eddi|zuHause> specifically: http://newgrf-specs.tt-wiki.net/wiki/NML:Item#Livery_override 22:51:24 <V453000> I already linked to monoICE at NUTS which uses exactly that :P 22:53:33 *** FLHerne [~quassel@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 23:00:43 *** FLHerne [~quassel@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:01:08 <planetmaker> OpenGFX+Trains also never uses livery override for the MU passenger wagons. never. ;-) 23:02:40 <V453000> well you dont need to use it unless you use powered wagons pm :P 23:02:51 <V453000> at least I dont use it unless I need powered wagons ... :D 23:03:08 <planetmaker> well. but it's easy if you want matching wagons for an engine 23:03:41 <planetmaker> but yes, not needed in that case, strictly speaking 23:03:47 <V453000> idk I was told some time ago that livery override is outdated and so I used switch with leading engine ID :P 23:03:55 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-208-105-82-227.nyc.biz.rr.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:04:03 <planetmaker> actually livery override is a newgrf odditiy which never should have been invented in the form it exists :D 23:04:12 <planetmaker> yeah ^^ what you say 23:04:25 <planetmaker> that's the better approach 23:04:46 <V453000> :D 23:04:56 <V453000> ok :P 23:05:21 <V453000> <- as long as it works, :P :) 23:09:46 *** jonty-comp [~jonty@000128f3.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:09:52 *** jonty-comp [~jonty@000128f3.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 23:16:58 *** Flygon [~Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 23:17:08 *** Flygon [~Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has joined #openttd 23:25:17 <nicfer> is that only graphicwise or can I also change wagon stats? 23:31:07 <Eddi|zuHause> just define a real wagon... 23:32:08 *** DabuYu [DoubleYou@128.250.79.183] has joined #openttd 23:37:41 *** auvajs [~au@machacek.kolej.mff.cuni.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:42:04 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 23:43:08 <LordAro> right, properly 'night all' this time 23:43:11 <LordAro> bye! 23:43:16 *** LordAro [~root@host86-165-37-51.range86-165.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: leaving] 23:44:15 *** tycoondemon [~sm0ck@524B5F54.cm-4-4b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 23:44:31 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:54:29 <nicfer> One question, can I make an industry to boost production when one of its tiles receive cargo? Not actual accepted cargo, but for example, passengers as for steel mills