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TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:01:37 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f63d1.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 11:06:02 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 11:21:04 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i528C30BA.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 11:24:22 <frosch123> silly automatic updates 11:25:17 <frosch123> made incompatible changes and does not notify me about it, but just stops working :p 11:35:19 <samu> hmm? 11:37:47 <samu> I'm on content download 11:38:07 <samu> do you see me downloading OpenSFX-0.2.3? 11:39:44 <frosch123> yeah, we are impressed. you are doing really good with downloading 11:40:06 <samu> lol 11:40:31 <samu> it is slow, where can I download like yesterday? 11:41:02 <V453000> googling score is a bit lower though 11:42:53 <samu> utwente download fails 11:47:42 <V453000> utwente? 11:48:10 <samu> http://ftp.snt.utwente.nl/pub/games/openttd/binaries/extra/opensfx/0.2.3/opensfx-0.2.3-all.zip 11:48:54 <samu> http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/bundles/opensfx/releases/0.2.3/opensfx-0.2.3.zip 11:49:02 <V453000> looks alright to me 11:49:03 <samu> http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/bundles/opensfx/releases/opensfx-0.2.3.zip 11:49:11 <samu> and the one via online 11:49:29 <V453000> no problem on either of them 11:49:40 <V453000> what do you need sounds for anyway :d 11:50:22 <samu> openttdcoop dls were interrupted 11:50:43 <V453000> I just downloaded it and it works 11:50:50 <V453000> so the problem certainly isnt at the server side 11:50:52 <samu> utwente stalls, 12 hours remaining 11:51:00 <samu> yes, it's me 11:51:09 <samu> i needed to download from somewhere else 11:51:16 <samu> like yesteday 11:51:51 <V453000> why do you even tell us when you know it is your problem :d 11:51:55 <V453000> just google another mirror 11:52:03 <samu> i forgot where I downloaded from 11:54:15 <V453000> how should we know that :) 11:54:19 <V453000> @logs 11:54:19 <DorpsGek> V453000: http://irclogs.qmsk.net/channels/openttd 11:56:48 <planetmaker> samu, if both, utwente and coop devzone downloads fail, the cause is at your end 11:57:13 <planetmaker> both have quite decent network connectivity... thus the speed issue is not there 11:57:35 <planetmaker> they might complain, if you try to download stuff at 1 bit per minute, though 11:58:03 <samu> openttdcoop have 2 different 0.2.3's 11:58:35 <samu> I know, but yesterday I downloaded RC1 from somewhere and worked 11:58:51 <samu> tried to install it and failed with downloading opensfx 11:59:02 <samu> and opengfx 11:59:13 <samu> it is my isp 11:59:20 <planetmaker> I'm pretty sure that it has only one 0.2.3 of OpenSFX :-) 11:59:39 <samu> http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/bundles/opensfx/releases/0.2.3/opensfx-0.2.3.zip 11:59:45 <samu> http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/bundles/opensfx/releases/opensfx-0.2.3.zip 12:00:14 <planetmaker> hm, interesting :-) 12:00:47 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@89.137.75.224] has quit [] 12:01:04 <samu> one is 10.8 MB, other is 10.6 MB 12:01:20 <samu> utwente is 10.8 MB, the one from online is 10.8 MiB 12:04:04 <planetmaker> on closer analysis the two OpenSFX are identical though 12:05:52 <samu> I need a new brain... 12:06:06 <samu> ty thought 12:06:15 *** Progman [~progman@p57A18155.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:11:20 <planetmaker> as is the download obtained from university twente 12:11:52 <planetmaker> binary identical 12:15:29 <samu> i can't view this page 12:15:29 <samu> http://us.binaries.openttd.org/binaries/extra/opensfx/index.html 12:15:33 <samu> it's all white 12:15:40 <planetmaker> by design. yes 12:15:50 <samu> :8 12:16:13 <planetmaker> you're not supposed to access mirrors directly. Thus they provide no index page 12:16:33 <planetmaker> openttd has a download balancer for a reason. bound to fail, if people mess with it manually 12:17:44 <samu> :( 12:17:55 <samu> I think it was there 12:18:47 <samu> downloading from Check Online Content via OpenTTD just keeps restarting the download 12:19:07 <samu> goes 1%, then restarts 12:19:39 <samu> sometimes doesn't even go 1%, it restarts 12:20:03 <planetmaker> get a real internet connection, I suggest 12:20:22 <samu> :/( 12:20:29 <samu> I pay 71 euros 12:20:58 <samu> can't make it much cheaper than this 12:21:03 <planetmaker> wow... for that I would get 50MBit flatrate internet, telephone and mobile 12:21:19 <planetmaker> at least 12:21:50 <samu> it is TV + NET + Phone + MobileNet 12:22:05 <planetmaker> but I didn't ask for "cheap" but for "decent". Often that's detrimental to eachother 12:22:49 <samu> we could live without TV, but these ISPs are gay and always force either TV or Phone 12:22:59 <samu> to have Internet 12:23:37 <samu> If I want only MobileNet, they force me a triple service 12:24:04 <samu> so. TV + NET + Phone 12:26:55 <samu> currently where I am, I only have MobileNet 12:28:08 <samu> the other 3 services are useless as long as I'm here 12:28:23 <samu> but still have to pay 71 euros a month :( 12:34:17 *** HellTiger [~HellTiger@43-54.61-188.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #openttd 12:35:44 <frosch123> planetmaker: no matter how hard i try, i cannot find anything more expensive than 60â¬, which includes flatrate for internet, phone, mobile and movies 12:36:16 <samu> Portugal 12:37:47 <frosch123> yeah, but germany is always considered bad compared to other countries 12:38:08 <planetmaker> frosch123, :-) 12:38:15 <planetmaker> I didn't look. But was just guesswork 12:38:23 <frosch123> comparing to sweden and finland usually :) 12:38:50 <planetmaker> hehe 12:46:54 <samu> TV - â¬28,21 12:47:10 <samu> Internet - â¬26,80 12:47:21 <samu> Phone - â¬3,07 12:47:34 <samu> Mobile - â¬13,11 12:47:52 <samu> total - â¬71,19 12:50:17 <planetmaker> flatrate internet @ 6MBit + landline phone + mobile phone without flat rates = 19,90⬠;-) 12:51:02 <samu> Internet is 24 Mbps 12:51:18 <samu> Mobile Internet is 1 Mbps 12:51:40 <samu> TV is 100+ channels, i don't even watch one 12:53:14 <samu> Phone unlimited as long as I don't make calls to numbers belonging to other providers 12:53:27 <samu> then i pay some rate per second 12:54:45 <samu> mobilenet 1 Mbps, limited to 1 GB bandwidth, then down to 128 kbps 12:55:31 <samu> Internet 24 Mbps dl, 1.5 Mbps ul, they say unlimited 12:56:30 <samu> I know there's a max bandwidth limit 12:56:45 <samu> other users complain about it, but I never reached to that point 12:56:52 <samu> I'm barely using it anyway... 12:59:55 <samu> Could not decompress the downloaded file... :( 13:02:47 <samu> Trying to load sound set 'OpenSFX' but it is incomplete 13:04:03 <samu> bla bla, the following files are corrupted or missing: opensfx-0.2.3\opensfx.cat is corrupt (Please redownload from BaNaNas.) 13:06:51 <samu> omg, can't select opensfx from download content 13:07:00 <samu> You already have this :8 13:07:05 <samu> bah, I hate my internet 13:18:50 *** perk11 [~perk11@broadband-46-242-13-101.nationalcablenetworks.ru] has joined #openttd 13:41:12 *** LordAro [~LordAro@host217-43-26-155.range217-43.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 14:03:29 *** ntoskrnl [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 14:20:24 *** Biolunar [~mahdi@blfd-4d083e0b.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 14:29:43 *** Tvel [~Thunderbi@212.36.5.170] has quit [Quit: Tvel] 14:35:59 *** samu [~oftc-webi@182.222.28.37.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:36:10 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has joined #openttd 14:41:15 *** Pol [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:58:52 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:02:37 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has joined #openttd 15:07:29 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:09:18 *** KouDy1 [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has joined #openttd 15:13:02 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@89.137.75.224] has joined #openttd 15:45:29 *** glx [glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 15:45:32 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 15:56:25 <Terkhen> hello 16:22:42 *** ntoskrnl [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:35:43 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:35:47 *** Ristovski [~rafael@78.157.7.34] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:38:24 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 17:38:11 *** Nothing4You [N4Y@Nothing4You.w.tf-w.tf] has quit [Quit: Gone...] 17:38:44 *** Nothing4You [N4Y@Nothing4You.w.tf-w.tf] has joined #openttd 17:44:12 *** ToBeFree is now known as Guest330 17:45:14 *** Guest330 is now known as ToBeFree 17:45:24 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r25306 /trunk/src/lang (czech.txt romanian.txt) (2013-05-30 17:45:17 UTC) 17:45:25 <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 17:45:26 <DorpsGek> czech - 38 changes by LucikMucik 17:45:27 <DorpsGek> romanian - 22 changes by mariush 17:47:29 <planetmaker> wow, he was fast 17:52:59 <frosch123> who? 17:53:46 <Rubidium> the new translator? 17:54:19 <frosch123> ah, and he breaks wt3 on the first day? :p 17:54:51 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has joined #openttd 17:56:40 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has quit [] 17:59:49 *** KouDy1 [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:03:34 *** samu [~oftc-webi@97.235.137.78.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #openttd 18:04:30 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 18:06:06 <samu> hi 18:07:04 <samu> problem: http://www.tt-forums.net/chatroom.php - does not work, oftc banned mibbit 18:08:21 *** samu [~oftc-webi@97.235.137.78.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [] 18:10:07 *** snorre_ [~snorre@c3D04BF51.dhcp.as2116.net] has joined #openttd 18:10:08 *** ZxBiohazardZx [~IceChat77@5ED05D6D.cm-7-1b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 18:10:31 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has joined #openttd 18:11:19 <frosch123> what is more annoying? the webchat guys, or the guys asking why it is banned? 18:11:22 <frosch123> @op 18:11:25 *** mode/#openttd [+o frosch123] by DorpsGek 18:11:27 *** samu [~oftc-webi@97.235.137.78.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #openttd 18:11:36 *** mode/#openttd [-b mib_*!*@*] by frosch123 18:11:49 *** mode/#openttd [-b *!*559d4ca4@*.mibbit.com] by frosch123 18:11:56 *** snorre [~snorre@c3D04BF51.dhcp.as2116.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:12:01 *** mode/#openttd [-b *!4e692c9c@ircip2.mibbit.com] by frosch123 18:12:03 *** mode/#openttd [-b *!47ee2326@*.mibbit.com] by frosch123 18:12:06 *** mode/#openttd [-b *!b89e1566@ircip1.mibbit.com] by frosch123 18:12:25 <samu> :o 18:12:52 *** mode/#openttd [+b unicorn!*@*] by frosch123 18:12:52 *** KouDy1 [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has joined #openttd 18:12:55 <frosch123> @deop 18:12:58 *** mode/#openttd [-o frosch123] by DorpsGek 18:13:00 <Rubidium> frosch123: not that it matters since mibbit is really banned by oftc 18:13:16 <frosch123> is it? i thought it was our mib* ban 18:14:38 <samu> I use this: http://webchat.oftc.net/ 18:14:46 <samu> but i need to type my name and channel :( 18:15:42 <Rubidium> frosch123: I read that not long ago; can't find it anymore though 18:15:57 <Rubidium> except some other fora mentioning that mibbit is banned on oftc 18:16:18 <frosch123> wiki says mibbit is banend from freenode since 2009 18:16:24 <frosch123> though wiki was not edited since 2011 18:17:11 <samu> <iframe src="http://webchat.oftc.net/?nick=Samu&channels=OpenTTD" width="647" height="400"></iframe> 18:17:28 <samu> http://webchat.oftc.net/?nick=Samu&channels=OpenTTD 18:17:42 <samu> aha :) got it 18:17:58 <frosch123> Rubidium: ok, there is apparently a x.org chatlog about it 18:18:33 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:19:06 <planetmaker> yes, mibbit is banned 18:19:15 <planetmaker> oftc doesn't want to hand out control over their network 18:19:21 *** Samu_ [~oftc-webi@97.235.137.78.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #openttd 18:19:29 <Samu_> test 18:19:33 <planetmaker> and mibbit doesn't use their API properly (as how it was forseen) 18:19:36 <Rubidium> oh lol... oftc web chat is just a javascript IRC client running locally 18:19:47 *** Samu_ [~oftc-webi@97.235.137.78.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [] 18:19:50 <planetmaker> whatever... dunno :-) 18:20:10 *** Biolunar [~mahdi@blfd-4d083e0b.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: My life for Aiur] 18:20:30 <Zuu> samu: Why not just run an IRC client as a stand alone application? 18:20:31 *** KouDy1 [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:20:53 <samu> because I'm weird 18:21:04 <samu> lol I don't want to download much stuff 18:21:32 <Rubidium> so you download an IRC client and all its libraries written javascript each and every time you want to IRC? 18:21:36 <Zuu> So instead you download the client every time (HTML+javascript) 18:21:59 <samu> I don't know 18:22:07 <samu> I put in the address and I'm here 18:22:21 <samu> if that's how it works, fine 18:23:19 <planetmaker> :-) yeah. And complain about traffic quota. Increasing it... for no good reason really 18:24:42 <samu> the quota is 1GB, I'm over 15GB atm 18:25:23 <samu> but what I complain is my downloads don't work 18:25:41 <samu> yet I can see a 52 youtube video 18:25:46 <samu> 52 minutes 18:27:05 <samu> 1 Mbps internet during 1 GB quota, then 128 kbps after 1 GB quota 18:27:33 <samu> that's what they advertise, but I can't download anything past 15 GB 18:32:06 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has joined #openttd 18:32:58 *** snorre_ [~snorre@c3D04BF51.dhcp.as2116.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:39:59 <Zuu> samu: So if you download an IRC client once, you will use only that bandwith required for chat in future and not having to download the full IRC client each and every time. 18:45:03 <samu> it's not something I use as often, else I'd install one 18:45:25 <samu> but... 18:46:37 <samu> problem is I'm dealing with an ISP who doesn't know what they're doing 18:47:26 <samu> they advertise something, I get another, I get more than 1 Mbps 18:47:35 <samu> for about 15 GB 18:48:16 <samu> after that traffic, I get 128 kbps for some stuff, but 0 for downloads or whatever they see fit as a download 18:48:24 <samu> some downloads still work, but it's rare 18:48:50 *** Progman [~progman@p57A18155.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 18:49:29 <samu> between complaining or leaving it be, I just prefer that they don't screw it 18:49:34 <samu> so, i do nothing 18:50:12 <samu> if I happen to need windows updates, I'm just stuck 18:50:17 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:51:37 <Zuu> When I was a high school student without internet, I brought my laptop to a friend to get updates and install new Linux software. :-) 18:54:00 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p5DC671D1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 18:59:05 <samu> it angries me soo much when i'm unable to download half-month away 18:59:22 <samu> but oh well 19:01:28 <samu> checking my antivirus definitions tells me how long I've been unable to download 19:01:32 <samu> 4 days :o 19:01:46 <samu> outdated for 4 days 19:05:43 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-213-220-193-253.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 19:12:15 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 19:23:43 *** ZxBiohazardZx [~IceChat77@5ED05D6D.cm-7-1b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Quit: Life without danger is a waste of oxygen] 19:25:17 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has joined #openttd 19:25:31 *** KritiK [~Maxim@0001264a.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 19:27:00 *** zooks [~zooks@vhe-540241.sshn.net] has joined #openttd 19:28:46 <zooks> My openttd just crashed (r25306) while playing with newobjects: Error: Assertion failed at line 704 of /bamboo/src/widget_type.h: this->count <= this->cap ? (position == 0) : (position + this->cap <= this->count) 19:29:08 <zooks> Can it be that my nml code causes the crash? 19:29:31 <planetmaker> no 19:29:38 *** chester_ [~chester@95-26-127-231.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 19:29:58 <planetmaker> please open an issue in our bug tracker with all crash files and info which you can give 19:30:52 <planetmaker> of course it can be your newgrf which triggers it. But it is always an OpenTTD bug, if it crashes 19:31:38 <planetmaker> but what you quote sounds not like a newgrf thing 19:31:49 <zooks> Well I made some changes to dutchroadfurniture 19:32:06 <zooks> and opening and closing the object window causes the crash 19:32:17 <zooks> Ill upload to the bugtracker 19:32:58 <planetmaker> make sure to then also attach your newgrf or the diff of your changes to dutchroadfurniture 19:33:35 <planetmaker> maybe your newgrf does something it shouldn't. But OpenTTD must not crash then either 19:33:53 <planetmaker> and the changes you made will tell us where it's triggered then 19:34:07 <planetmaker> and give reasonable feedback instead 19:34:46 <samu> when my money is negative, a cargo ship that is ordered to refit stops inside a depot. Could this behaviour be altered? 19:35:35 <planetmaker> yes, of course 19:35:48 <planetmaker> it could also stop outside. With the message "crew left due to unpaid wages" 19:37:17 <samu> can't refit anyway, making my money even more negative? 19:52:46 *** George [~George@212.113.107.39] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:01:14 <samu> i have a ship with a conditional order 20:01:36 <samu> jump to order 3 when load percentage is equal to 0 20:01:59 <samu> the ship had 1 bag of mail 20:02:15 <samu> not totally empty, but jumpted to order 3 anyway :( 20:02:42 <samu> jumped* 20:03:49 *** snorre [~snorre@c3D04BF51.dhcp.as2116.net] has joined #openttd 20:04:56 *** ZxBiohazardZx [~IceChat77@5ED05D6D.cm-7-1b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 20:10:52 <Eddi|zuHause> if the conditional order is order 2, then it'll jump to order 3 in either case 20:11:10 <samu> it's the order 1 20:11:33 <Eddi|zuHause> also, i think the evaluation is in %, so you might have seen a rounding effect 20:11:43 <samu> yes 20:12:14 <samu> it is a ship doing gold and mail 20:12:30 <samu> with refit orders 20:13:48 <samu> it refits to mail and picks mail if there's any, then unloads mail where it loads gold 20:14:16 <samu> if there's no mail, it skips unloading mail and refit instead 20:14:24 <samu> skips order 2 20:17:19 <samu> join my game, it is a 1.3.1RC1 game, you can see 20:17:36 <samu> any red ship 20:19:18 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:21:20 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 20:21:23 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai|noir] by ChanServ 20:27:23 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-21-22.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:42:20 <frosch123> night 20:42:22 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f63d1.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:46:35 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p5DC671D1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 20:46:38 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p5DC671D1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 20:47:13 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has joined #openttd 20:48:17 *** zooks [~zooks@vhe-540241.sshn.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:52:20 *** LordAro [~LordAro@host217-43-26-155.range217-43.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 21:01:06 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@230.199.125.91.dyn.plus.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:03:38 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:15:46 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@i59F6D7A2.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:16:22 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 21:44:11 *** ZxBiohazardZx [~IceChat77@5ED05D6D.cm-7-1b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Quit: It's a dud! 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