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00:00:33 *** yorick [~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl] has joined #openttd 00:03:57 *** kero [~keikoz@82.4.69.86.rev.sfr.net] has joined #openttd 00:19:17 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@88.130.164.170] has joined #openttd 00:28:43 *** yorick [~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:30:14 *** Flygon_ [~Flygon@147.18.214.218.sta.commander.net.au] has joined #openttd 00:30:14 *** Flygon [~Flygon@147.18.214.218.sta.commander.net.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:34:52 *** Pereba [~UserNick@187.113.82.23] has quit [Quit: AdiIRC! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://adiirc.com/] 00:40:25 *** talebowl [~delltvgat@127.125-64-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 00:44:58 *** Midnightmyth [~quassel@93-167-84-102-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:49:54 *** Flygon [~Flygon@147.18.214.218.sta.commander.net.au] has joined #openttd 00:49:54 *** Flygon_ [~Flygon@147.18.214.218.sta.commander.net.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:25:57 *** kero [~keikoz@82.4.69.86.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Quit: kero] 01:56:03 <Eddi|zuHause> THERE IS AN HOUR MISSING!!! 02:10:41 *** KenjiE20 [kenjie20@irc.blinkenshell.org] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2] 02:11:58 *** KenjiE20 [kenjie20@irc.blinkenshell.org] has joined #openttd 02:19:07 <Flygon> Is it evil when you're kind of wanting good buses to be available in a game because a railway would be a pita? D: 02:37:35 *** Natio [~Natio@x1-6-e0-46-9a-98-35-7a.cpe.webspeed.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:15:58 *** MJP [~mjp@hq.z77.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:18:13 *** ABCRic [~ABCRic@a79-168-244-115.cpe.netcabo.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:34:42 <Eddi|zuHause> do not repeat that sentence when andy is around :p 03:43:10 *** Hazzard_ [~quassel@c-67-174-253-44.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 03:45:38 *** fjb is now known as Guest4837 03:45:40 *** fjb [~frank@000158aa.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 03:49:59 *** Hazzard [~quassel@c-67-174-253-44.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:51:01 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Bye] 03:52:27 *** Flygon_ [~Flygon@147.18.214.218.sta.commander.net.au] has joined #openttd 03:52:35 *** Guest4837 [~frank@000158aa.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:53:01 *** Flygon [~Flygon@147.18.214.218.sta.commander.net.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:58:12 *** Hazzard_ is now known as Hazzard 04:56:02 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p5DC673B1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 04:56:16 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD52CC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 05:07:46 *** Djohaal [~Djohaal@200.146.81.121.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:20:27 *** supermop [~daniel_er@d110-33-172-236.sun801.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 05:20:48 <supermop> hello 05:43:34 <Supercheese> Gouda day 05:46:56 <supermop> no tram riding today 05:47:18 *** Hazzard [~quassel@c-67-174-253-44.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:47:22 <supermop> but i will go to a pub named tramway hotel tonight 05:48:54 <supermop> are you in seattle Supercheese? 05:49:01 <Supercheese> Nope 05:49:03 <Supercheese> Idaho 05:49:38 <Supercheese> it's quite a few hours' drive to seattle 05:52:18 <supermop> the skinny part? 05:55:01 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 05:55:02 <Supercheese> Indeed 05:55:30 <supermop> i was not actually aware that the skinny part was inhabited 06:11:07 <andythenorth> o/ 06:13:32 <supermop> hi andy 06:15:55 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@95.76.164.39] has joined #openttd 07:20:33 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1BE1B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 07:29:00 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 07:30:00 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 07:33:22 *** talebowl [~delltvgat@127.125-64-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #openttd 07:53:48 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1BE1B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:57:58 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has joined #openttd 07:58:36 <supermop> pub soon 08:01:15 <planetmaker> moin 08:06:04 <supermop> hi planetmaker im off to the tramway hotel pub 08:06:06 <supermop> later all 08:07:32 *** supermop [~daniel_er@d110-33-172-236.sun801.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: supermop] 08:20:16 *** skrzyp [~skrzyp@sundance.6irc.net] has left #openttd [WeeChat 0.4.3] 08:41:18 *** Flygon_ is now known as Flygon 08:48:56 *** Pokka [~Octomom@d110-32-11-122.rdl800.qld.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 08:49:06 *** Pokka [~Octomom@d110-32-11-122.rdl800.qld.optusnet.com.au] has quit [] 08:56:26 *** Pikka [~Octomom@d110-32-11-122.rdl800.qld.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:57:47 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-5f743237.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 09:09:23 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:34:10 *** Pereba [~UserNick@187.113.82.23] has joined #openttd 09:46:33 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 09:46:34 *** fjb is now known as Guest4859 09:46:35 *** fjb [~frank@000158aa.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 09:48:17 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:51:03 *** Guest4859 [~frank@000158aa.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:51:34 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 09:58:56 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i528C3DCD.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 10:03:40 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 10:04:09 <Wolf01> hello o/ 10:05:16 *** Flygon [~Flygon@147.18.214.218.sta.commander.net.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:05:28 <planetmaker> hi hi :) 10:08:10 *** Flygon [~Flygon@147.18.214.218.sta.commander.net.au] has joined #openttd 10:19:12 *** supermop [~daniel_er@d110-33-172-236.sun801.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 10:19:21 <supermop> hi 10:19:45 <planetmaker> welcome back :) that was a quick pub excursion ;) 10:19:58 <V453000> tramway stuff 10:24:55 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 10:25:09 <supermop> pub, then went to the grocery store, then came home and made palomas with a home infused jalapeno tequilla! 10:25:24 <planetmaker> sounds delicious 10:25:36 <planetmaker> but short for pub still. Even shorter ;) 10:25:36 <supermop> the tramway hotel pub has a beer called tramway conductor pale ale 10:26:34 <supermop> well it is a sunday night, and my fiancee has wireframing work to get done on her app 10:26:47 <supermop> and i have... nothing much to do 10:27:03 <supermop> other than make drinks 10:28:09 <planetmaker> :) 10:29:26 <peter1138> Temporarily using only one monitor. It feels so constrictive. 10:29:30 <supermop> it's really hard to find metalworkers here 10:29:37 <supermop> i miss my dual monitors 10:29:47 <supermop> last time I had them was circa 2009 10:32:08 <supermop> i think i infused the tequilla too long 10:32:15 <supermop> its very hot 10:34:19 <planetmaker> hehe 10:40:34 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@95.76.164.39] has quit [] 10:50:31 <supermop> so what all is going on? 10:50:52 *** Midnightmyth [~quassel@93-167-84-102-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has joined #openttd 10:51:37 <andythenorth> voyager 1 has drawn a train 10:52:06 <andythenorth> andythenorth is making breakfast 10:52:19 <planetmaker> bon appetit 10:52:50 <peter1138> Midday breakfast! 10:53:32 <peter1138> andythenorth, road types! 10:53:52 <peter1138> So is there anything cool to go with 10cc? 10:54:44 <peter1138> I miss wagon speed limits in it though :( 10:55:35 <peter1138> sse2 vs ssse3? 10:55:43 <peter1138> I dunno, all this optimisation. 10:56:06 <peter1138> Yet there's still our own unique version of tearing, which is... vertical. 10:56:34 <supermop> the roadtype i most want to see is fancy terrazzo pavement pedestrian mall with tram tracks, 10:56:48 <supermop> because apparently that exists downtown in this city 10:57:01 <supermop> tearing? 10:57:04 <supermop> or teiring? 10:57:08 <peter1138> tearing. 10:57:10 <supermop> tiering? 10:57:33 <dxtr> tearing 10:57:46 <dxtr> peter1138: Vertical tearing? 10:57:56 <dxtr> How have you managed to achieve this? 10:58:15 <peter1138> It's how ottd draws blocks. 10:58:53 <dxtr> Weird 10:59:09 <peter1138> When scrolling the map the parts of the screen update at slightly different times, so it gets a bit... weird. 11:00:32 <dxtr> Maybe I should learn to code gfx :P 11:00:50 <dxtr> I'm one of those pesky people who prefer to do the back-end 11:01:29 <dxtr> Don't ask me why I added a hyphen there 11:02:47 <peter1138> "*snigger*" 11:04:21 <peter1138> Heh, weird, I have two towns close to each other: Trunthill and Truntfield. 11:05:29 <V453000> wait wait wait dont you want to say you are playing the actual game? 11:07:18 <peter1138> Heh, weird, I'm playing the game. 11:07:51 <dxtr> *the* game 11:08:08 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:08:50 <V453000> *weird* 11:11:16 <andythenorth> peter1138: road types? 11:11:21 <andythenorth> are we saying words again? o_O 11:11:31 <andythenorth> dog biscuits! 11:12:53 <V453000> GOOD caboose 11:17:15 <andythenorth> itâs not time for road types yet 11:17:23 <andythenorth> wait until Iâve completely finished an RV set 11:17:27 <andythenorth> then change the spec :P 11:17:36 <andythenorth> thatâs the standard way to do it 11:24:30 <LordAro> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=70227 this guy is breaking GPL, isn't he? 11:26:15 <planetmaker> Probably 11:28:02 <LordAro> https://github.com/ShadowTheAge/openttd-flash/tree/gh-pages the repo, for those interested 11:29:58 <planetmaker> feel free to step on his toes :) 11:31:46 * planetmaker is out, grabbing arrows and bow and enjoying the 20Ä Sunday afternoon, though 11:32:04 <peter1138> dxtr, no, not _that_ game. 11:33:06 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 11:40:37 <supermop> bedtime in melbourne 11:40:40 <supermop> later 11:48:11 *** MJP [~mjp@hq.z77.fr] has joined #openttd 11:48:25 <peter1138> Skin sofa, skin sofa, urgh urgh urgh urgh urggghh 11:58:34 *** supermop [~daniel_er@d110-33-172-236.sun801.vic.optusnet.com.au] has left #openttd [] 12:04:07 *** yorick [~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl] has joined #openttd 12:31:25 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@76.178.136.186] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:31:55 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@76.178.136.186] has joined #openttd 13:05:06 <maddy_> oh dear, I am wondering if I can efficiently merge the 4 lines which come from 2 stations into my 2 mainline tracks...or do I have to add a 3rd track to the mainline 13:06:47 <maddy_> the trains come from 2 lines initially to the stations, so in theory they should only need 2 outgoing lines too 13:07:28 <maddy_> my current 4-to-2 merger is somewhat a bottleneck 13:11:33 *** ABCRic [~ABCRic@a79-168-244-115.cpe.netcabo.pt] has joined #openttd 13:15:59 <V453000> easy answer 13:16:05 <V453000> expand the parts which are bottleneck 13:16:14 <V453000> if 2 lines arent enough, there you have your answer - you need 3 13:16:40 <V453000> if 2 lines are enough for entrance, 2 should be enough for exit in general, then the merger is probably not doing a good job 13:20:18 <maddy_> is it good/bad idea to first do a 4-to-3 merger, and then later another 3-to-2? 13:20:54 <maddy_> I am looking at openttdcoop wiki for some examples 13:24:25 <V453000> if you can do 3->2 then there is probably no reason to have 3 lines before it - if 2 are only needed 13:24:30 <V453000> as I said 13:24:35 <V453000> expand what breaks/is bottleneck 13:26:32 <maddy_> http://oi58.tinypic.com/23wrypt.jpg 13:28:07 <V453000> that should do fine 13:28:24 <V453000> well done 13:28:41 <V453000> if you want to learn quicker, just join some of the servers :) people there are helpful 13:29:51 <maddy_> you mean openttdcoop? 13:30:41 <V453000> yes 13:31:33 <maddy_> thanks, I might try it one day 13:48:34 *** Phreeze [~p@vodsl-4744.vo.lu] has joined #openttd 14:28:26 *** mg_ [~oftc-webi@176-58-16-246.net.e-cho.pl] has joined #openttd 14:33:11 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@95.76.164.39] has joined #openttd 14:53:43 *** mg_ [~oftc-webi@176-58-16-246.net.e-cho.pl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:09:43 *** Pensacola [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 15:29:13 *** talebowl [~delltvgat@127.125-64-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 15:29:59 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 15:40:54 *** linuxman [~oftc-webi@c-69-143-146-42.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 15:47:49 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 15:52:58 *** Hazzard [~quassel@c-67-174-253-44.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 15:59:23 *** Aristide [~quassel@2a01:e35:2eb9:64b0:1e4b:d6ff:feca:6b69] has joined #openttd 15:59:23 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@88.130.164.170] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:19:53 <Phreeze> anybody know where to by really thin Torx Bits in europe ? 16:19:57 <Phreeze> like 0.5mm or 1mm ? 16:22:11 *** jjavaholic [~jjavaholi@grahamg63.plus.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:23:33 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 16:28:01 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [] 16:31:46 *** linuxman [~oftc-webi@c-69-143-146-42.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:32:28 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@88.130.178.197] has joined #openttd 16:36:08 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 16:38:59 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [] 17:17:21 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 17:18:53 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 17:22:43 <andythenorth> frosch123: can you think of any quick hacks I could make to SV for variety? 17:22:58 <andythenorth> I need to play a game to test newgrfs, bored of existing GS 17:23:02 <andythenorth> ;) 17:24:10 <frosch123> nope :p 17:25:48 <andythenorth> :P 17:27:15 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 17:27:18 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 17:28:57 *** jjavaholic [~jjavaholi@grahamg63.plus.com] has joined #openttd 17:37:58 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 17:51:32 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1BE1B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 17:51:38 *** Pensacola [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:08:19 *** oskari89 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 18:17:09 *** Pereba_ [~UserNick@177.17.90.86] has joined #openttd 18:19:49 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 18:24:05 *** Pereba [~UserNick@187.113.82.23] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:24:09 *** Pereba_ is now known as Pereba 18:29:51 *** Pereba_ [~UserNick@177.205.150.252.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has joined #openttd 18:35:18 *** Pereba [~UserNick@177.17.90.86] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:35:20 *** Pereba_ is now known as Pereba 18:45:24 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r26437 trunk/src/lang/belarusian.txt (2014-03-30 18:45:12 UTC) 18:45:25 <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 18:45:26 <DorpsGek> belarusian - 1 changes by Wowanxm 18:45:52 <planetmaker> uh... nightly now one hour later, eh? 18:46:09 <planetmaker> §$)&!§)? daylight saving time 18:46:53 <__ln___> solar time nightlies \o/ 18:49:10 <planetmaker> MJD? :P 18:49:27 <Wolf01> stupid dst, just move the clock of half an hour and keep that forever 18:50:15 <planetmaker> one or the other would do. Actually normal time would do well. As then the sun is above horizon the same time before and after noon 18:53:16 <Phreeze> all the "pros" for DST don't work anyway, like light on roads 18:53:43 <planetmaker> the change from or to dst has a proven detrimental economic effect even 18:53:50 <planetmaker> due to reduced productivity 18:54:25 <maddy_> I am going to publish my small patch for station 'efficiency rating' 18:54:44 <Phreeze> i slept 5 hours...problem was: party, then dst, then get up early to move somebodys stuff... 18:56:16 *** qwebirc52499 [~oftc-webi@78-131-10-18.pool.digikabel.hu] has joined #openttd 18:56:23 *** qwebirc52499 [~oftc-webi@78-131-10-18.pool.digikabel.hu] has quit [] 18:56:53 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1BE1B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:57:51 <Wolf01> http://science.slashdot.org/story/14/03/30/1329213/daylight-saving-time-linked-to-heart-attacks eh 19:16:14 *** tycoondemon [~ashnohoe@ip503d7ac1.speed.planet.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:16:29 *** tycoondemon [~ashnohoe@ip503d7ac1.speed.planet.nl] has joined #openttd 19:24:30 *** tycoondemon [~ashnohoe@ip503d7ac1.speed.planet.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:30:37 <planetmaker> maddy_, I believe your patch fails badly for a station which provides more than a single cargo 19:31:09 <planetmaker> thus for every farm. And most stations in towns which also supply mail 19:32:16 <planetmaker> and don't you think that the existing cargo rating at a station is a much better - and already existing - proxy to whether that cargo needs more attention at that station? 19:33:07 <maddy_> planetmaker: yes, it has some shortcomings, which is why I said it's quick-and-dirty :) 19:33:58 <maddy_> cargo rating has some problems, for my purpose 19:34:26 <planetmaker> which are...? 19:34:33 <rubidium> agreed planetmaker, we should opt for a time system where noon is exactly between sunrise and sunset. That'll be fun ;) 19:35:15 <planetmaker> rubidium, on average that's the case at the reference meridian of the time zone ;) 19:35:24 <maddy_> for one, I need to see all the values for all stations at one glance, without opening individual station dialogs 19:36:10 * rubidium will be happy when local time and UTC are the same ;) 19:36:18 <planetmaker> maddy_, that's a bad argument for inventing yet another measure. It's rather an argument for using it ;) 19:36:22 *** mg_ [~oftc-webi@176-58-16-246.net.e-cho.pl] has joined #openttd 19:36:25 <maddy_> secondly, the scale is small and is not precise enough, a cargo rating of 72 might be fully served, but a 68 might need additional train 19:37:03 <maddy_> thirdly, as far as I know, cargo rating only shows if you do not have enough trains, but does not penalize for having too many 19:37:23 <planetmaker> it does not do that, yes 19:40:30 <maddy_> but I realize this is a very crude way of doing it, and only works for specific game type / play style, which is why I was a bit hesitant about publishing it at all 19:41:22 <planetmaker> hardly ever wrong with publishing it. Though not everything can go into trunk :) 19:42:18 <planetmaker> Trunk concepts need to work for a few more cases, I'm afraid 19:43:15 <planetmaker> not to deter you. If it helps you - that's totally fine. 19:43:23 <planetmaker> Others also might find it helpful 19:43:49 <planetmaker> And it at least helps to serve as nice demonstration on how one can get started 19:44:55 <maddy_> that's the purpose, if anything, to see if anyone else needs it (or something similar), it's not intended for trunk really :) 19:45:15 <planetmaker> http://vcs.openttd.org/svn/changeset/13481/ <-- I mean... that patch surely is smaller ;) 19:46:19 <planetmaker> but I don't know. I toyed with other patches before 19:47:48 <maddy_> lost me there 19:49:17 <planetmaker> all I wanted to say: my first patch in trunk was much smaller ;) 19:49:30 <planetmaker> and solved much less :) 19:49:47 <frosch123> what did you pay smatz for it? :p 19:50:05 <planetmaker> possibly a cookie. Or the promise to not bother him for another day or so :P 19:50:23 <frosch123> ah, the usual treat :p 19:50:27 <planetmaker> yeah ;) 19:50:38 <frosch123> "if you don't solve my problem, i'll ask you again tomorrow" :) 19:50:59 <planetmaker> :) yeah. We were indeed playing then on the PublicServer with some boats as far as I recall 19:51:06 <planetmaker> It was a very serious problem ;) 19:51:31 <glx> pathfinding taking too much ressources ? 19:51:39 <planetmaker> no, building aqueducts :P 19:51:45 <planetmaker> taking too much time :) 19:52:23 <glx> huhu 19:52:31 <maddy_> I also think most players do not care to optimize their train counts to the level I do, so I am not sure this would be 'trunkable' even if cleaned up, fixed, etc 19:52:48 <__ln___> https://scontent-b-vie.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t1.0-9/10154136_856065164420185_1679632159_n.jpg 19:52:52 <planetmaker> important is that yu have fun, maddy_ :) 19:53:06 <frosch123> maddy_: that's no problem. we always make fun of people who have more tracks than trains 19:53:50 <maddy_> no but you introduced an interesting thought for me, should I make quick-and-dirty patches that I use myself, or should I try to make more polished stuff which could be included in trunk one day 19:54:09 <frosch123> always do the one which is most fun for you 19:54:24 <glx> quick-and-dirty even for personal use only is never a good idea 19:54:50 <frosch123> yeah, but i guess you have to learn that yourself :p 19:54:53 <planetmaker> well. It can serve the purpose to teach yourself something, glx :) 19:58:13 <maddy_> and the cargo rating itself, that might use some work too :) I am doing the best I can but I got 70 :) damn station guys want fresh new trains and a statue in their town to be happy 19:58:37 <planetmaker> well, getting 100 is about a thing near-impossible, yes 19:58:58 <frosch123> you just need 200ikmh trains 19:59:01 <planetmaker> it's a bit weired. The statue thing... well... 19:59:28 <planetmaker> yeah. have a new maglev train come and pickup things every 3 days 19:59:33 <planetmaker> and a statue 20:01:54 <planetmaker> I remember one game on a competitive server where some guy started to annoy me 20:02:20 <planetmaker> But I knew how to convince him to not compete for the industries I served :) 20:02:31 <planetmaker> two stations, both better rating then than him ;) 20:02:55 <maddy_> by using the statue trick? 20:03:02 <planetmaker> on station a road station, transfering the stuff to the 1-tile distant train station ;) 20:03:11 <planetmaker> that, too. But he had that, too 20:03:34 <planetmaker> and I autoreplaced the trains every two years or so 20:03:50 <planetmaker> by equivalently appropriate engines. So they were new 20:05:34 <maddy_> right :) 20:06:23 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:08:31 <planetmaker> the thing to really know when competing is that only the two highest-ranked stations get any cargo at all 20:08:35 <planetmaker> all others go empty 20:08:55 <planetmaker> that can shut-down services really fast and soundly :) 20:11:40 <maddy_> yeah, detailed knowledge of the game mechanics sure is handy in some situations 20:14:58 <frosch123> night 20:15:02 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-5f743237.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: be yourself, except: if you have the opportunity to be a unicorn, then be a unicorn] 20:17:16 <maddy_> yeah night for me too, bye 20:18:15 <NGC3982> http://i.imgur.com/7Ssg5um.png 20:21:22 <planetmaker> good night then :) 20:23:01 <Eddi|zuHause> you have too fiew jerrys 20:23:09 <Eddi|zuHause> -i 20:25:02 *** perk11 [~perk11@broadband-46-242-13-101.nationalcablenetworks.ru] has joined #openttd 20:30:14 <andythenorth> hurr 20:30:17 <andythenorth> is it bedtime? 20:32:48 <planetmaker> lol, Eddi|zuHause :) 20:33:06 <planetmaker> not sure it's still popular with today's youths 20:33:55 <andythenorth> it is 20:34:03 <andythenorth> massively 20:34:07 <andythenorth> due to the violence 20:39:16 <andythenorth> wonder if these trucks are under-powered 20:39:31 * andythenorth needs to play a test game :P 20:39:45 <andythenorth> also good night 20:39:47 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 20:43:51 *** montalvo [~montalvo@nv-184-6-144-76.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #openttd 20:44:54 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 20:45:12 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@95.76.164.39] has quit [] 20:46:02 *** oskari89 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 21:00:14 *** Phreeze [~p@vodsl-4744.vo.lu] has quit [] 21:01:36 <Wolf01> 'night 21:01:43 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 21:02:39 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1BE1B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 21:03:49 *** FLHerne [~FLHerne@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 21:07:54 *** supermop [~daniel_er@d110-33-172-236.sun801.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 21:08:05 <supermop> hi 21:10:13 <planetmaker> o/ 21:10:43 <Taede> o/ 21:11:46 <FLHerne> ping 21:14:57 <supermop> coffee time in melbourne 21:16:48 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i528C3DCD.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: http://bit.ly/nkczDT] 21:20:51 <FLHerne> tea-and-then-bed time here 21:21:52 <supermop> those sound like conflicting activities 21:24:08 <planetmaker> without the 'then' they are 21:24:39 <FLHerne> Meh. Given my level of caffeine addiction, one mug won't make the slightest difference :-/ 21:25:45 * FLHerne has contemplated switching to coffe instead 21:26:09 <supermop> new roast today 21:26:58 <supermop> finished a bag of rwandan from one roaster yesterday and have opened a new el salvadoran today 21:27:21 <supermop> i spend a lot of money on coffee, but really good tea is even more $$$$ 21:27:52 <supermop> so i don't have much accoutrement for it here 21:28:28 *** tycoondemon [~ashnohoe@ip503d7ac1.speed.planet.nl] has joined #openttd 21:30:20 <planetmaker> tea usually is needed in smaller quantities 21:30:30 <planetmaker> 500g of tea will get you much further than 500g of coffee 21:32:46 <planetmaker> so from my experience, a good cup of first-grade tea can be made much cheaper still than an equivalently good cup of coffee 21:33:00 <FLHerne> planetmaker: Depends if you're measuring by dry mass or in hot-drink form 21:33:16 <planetmaker> I'm mostly interested in the latter 21:33:25 <planetmaker> for 500g you likely can spend more on tea 21:33:34 <planetmaker> s/for 500g/per unit mass/ 21:33:43 <planetmaker> not sure though :) 21:35:04 <planetmaker> at home we used to have something like http://www.palaisdesthes.com/de/darjeeling-castleton-f-t-g-f-o-p-recolte-d-ete-38.html 21:35:11 <planetmaker> and I still do :) 21:37:22 <FLHerne> I don't usually go for anything fancier than I can buy in the local small food-shop, but I'll concede the superiority of the expensive stuff 21:38:04 * NGC3982 spends much money on coffee, but somehow never finds his favourites among the more expencive sorts. 21:38:19 <planetmaker> for the everyday tea I have something cheaper, too :) 21:38:32 <planetmaker> from the common grocery 21:38:41 <supermop> i like yorkshire tea for everyday but it is too $$$ in australia 21:39:05 <supermop> also i don't have a teapot here 21:40:52 <Supercheese> I just buy French Roasts from whatever brand is cheap 21:41:31 <Supercheese> coffee, that is 21:42:38 * NGC3982 loves the Moka brewer. 21:43:34 <planetmaker> NGC3982, maybe your problem is to use a 'brewer' instead of really hand-making the coffee for good quality :) 21:46:21 <supermop> moka is a great design icon, but yes a simple pour-over drip cone gives you better coffee 21:51:15 <NGC3982> "Better coffee"? 21:51:21 <supermop> yep 21:51:37 <supermop> yummier 21:51:43 <NGC3982> That is incorrect, since "better coffee" does not exist. 21:51:46 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1BE1B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:52:13 <NGC3982> Although, a drip cone is nice. 21:52:26 <NGC3982> I also enjoy the siphon, but that get's a + for flare. 21:54:17 <supermop> im thinking of buying a siphon here 21:54:30 <supermop> but i am not sure if that is going to get approval 21:56:32 <NGC3982> Approval? :) 21:58:15 <supermop> its a big visually load thing to be taking up space in the kitchen 21:58:36 <supermop> i might be the designer in the house, but I am certainly not the client 21:59:38 <NGC3982> :D. 21:59:45 <supermop> hmm i can hear the metro trains from here 21:59:59 <supermop> quiet morning i guess 22:00:40 <NGC3982> Metro? Morning? The US? 22:00:46 <NGC3982> It's exactly midnight around here. 22:00:58 <supermop> i moved to melbourne a couple months ago 22:01:46 <supermop> and in nyc it was certainly a subway, not a metro 22:02:13 <NGC3982> Ah, neat. 22:02:13 <supermop> unless you lived by an elevated line you felt it from your kitchen but did not hear it 22:02:25 <NGC3982> :-) 22:04:04 <supermop> what you really need is a 2-group la Marzocco machine in your kitchen 22:09:18 <supermop> to be serious though, a grinder helps more than any fancy brewing equipment 22:10:00 <supermop> just being able to grind the beans right before you use them is the single best improvement you can make to home brewed coffee 22:10:05 <Supercheese> Agreed 22:10:19 <Supercheese> Grind, cone filter, pour hot water over 22:10:32 <Supercheese> cheap, easy, and excellent results 22:11:02 <supermop> Supercheese: it can get expensive if you keep trying to get a better and better kettle 22:11:20 <planetmaker> g'night 22:11:45 <supermop> narrower spout, better handle geometry, more temperature precision 22:11:52 <supermop> later planetmaker 22:13:28 <Supercheese> Heh, well, my parents still use the kettle they bought back in Scotland, 24 years ago 22:13:41 <Supercheese> with the weird UK->US power adaptor 22:13:50 <Supercheese> it's worked very well for them 22:14:00 <supermop> i recently got the bonavita variable temperature gooseneck one here 22:14:32 <supermop> but in the us i used a non-electric kettle with a thermometer stuck in 22:15:10 <supermop> for the price of the bonavita i could have got a cheap siphon 22:15:38 <supermop> but at least the other people in the house can use this for tea or french press too 22:25:09 *** FLHerne [~FLHerne@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 22:27:41 *** Djohaal [~Djohaal@200.146.81.121.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has joined #openttd 22:35:10 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:39:13 *** perk11 [~perk11@broadband-46-242-13-101.nationalcablenetworks.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:40:04 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has quit [] 22:53:21 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 22:53:24 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai|noir] by ChanServ 22:59:24 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-93-7.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:09:33 *** Midnightmyth [~quassel@93-167-84-102-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:10:33 *** ABCRic [~ABCRic@a79-168-244-115.cpe.netcabo.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:11:28 *** dfox [~dfox@94.142.237.120] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:16:03 *** mg_ [~oftc-webi@176-58-16-246.net.e-cho.pl] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:19:47 *** dfox [~dfox@94.142.237.120] has joined #openttd 23:37:04 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@88.130.178.197] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:39:05 *** yorick [~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]