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typical 32bpp problem of looking too much like a toy due to the shortness 10:49:28 <Pikka> not much more than the real thing :P 10:49:32 <Pikka> http://archive.mers.org.im/BROWNBUS45.jpg 10:50:25 <Eddi|zuHause> you can't really trust photos, they're often made with distorting lenses 10:50:58 <Pikka> okay, well 10:51:30 <Pikka> Leyland PD2s were 26 feet long, or a shade under 8 meters 10:51:37 <Pikka> modern buses are about 11-12 meters long 10:52:21 <Pikka> although that photo is actually a 30 foot PD3 10:53:23 *** supermop [~supermop@d210-49-171-146.sun801.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:01:18 *** Ketsuban [~ketsuban@2.221.246.223] has quit [Quit: To robbery, slaughter, plunder they give the lying name of empire; they make a desert and call it peace.] 11:08:29 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 11:25:44 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:27:49 *** tokai|noir 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[liq3@CPE-120-147-178-81.gdfw1.lon.bigpond.net.au] has quit [] 16:03:49 <Alberth> fair enough :) 16:04:04 <Alberth> Don't think you can distinguish between the two 16:04:27 <Alberth> although, for Python 3, there isn't a PIL, probably 16:05:30 <frosch123> from PIL import Image <- well, i guess PIL is not that wrong then 16:06:04 <frosch123> let's address it with the api name :) 16:07:47 <Alberth> :) 16:28:35 *** wicope [~wicope@0001fd8a.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 16:30:42 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@i59F6B4E0.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 16:39:01 <Terkhen> hello 16:41:07 *** Bhoren [~quassel@LAubervilliers-656-1-270-96.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 16:41:47 *** Bhoren_ [~quassel@LAubervilliers-656-1-270-96.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 16:41:54 *** Bhoren__ [~quassel@LAubervilliers-656-1-270-96.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 16:42:30 *** Bhoren_ [~quassel@LAubervilliers-656-1-270-96.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:49:19 *** Bhoren [~quassel@LAubervilliers-656-1-270-96.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:52:23 *** Suicyder [~Suicyder@86.92.59.88] has joined #openttd 16:53:48 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 16:54:11 <andythenorth> o/ 16:57:10 <Alberth> moin 17:00:28 *** jinks [~jinks@172.245.35.67] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:01:49 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@95.76.27.245] has joined #openttd 17:06:24 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 17:06:27 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 17:16:03 *** Biolunar_ [Biolunar@x4d083307.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Quit: Yo.] 17:20:04 <andythenorth> is it cat? 17:20:13 <V453000> yes 17:22:45 <frosch123> it looks like coffee to me 17:22:51 <frosch123> cat juice looks different 17:23:08 * andythenorth hopes frosch123 hasnât made a terrible mistake 17:26:10 <frosch123> yeah, the unicorns get upset if i eat/drink their food 17:29:51 <andythenorth> how does the rocking horse feel about it? 17:30:49 <frosch123> does your cat have a rocking horse? 17:42:19 *** shirish [~quassel@0001358e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:44:15 *** shirish [~quassel@117.215.26.168] has joined #openttd 17:44:57 <andythenorth> yes 17:45:01 <andythenorth> it rides it around 17:45:09 <andythenorth> making clip-clop noises 17:47:47 <andythenorth> https://paste.openttdcoop.org/pk0ub5j5s#line-71 17:47:54 <andythenorth> there must be a better way 17:48:09 <andythenorth> (1) the hide_sprite expressions are slow to expand 17:48:12 <andythenorth> (2) itâs daft 17:48:22 <andythenorth> (3) it hits the register limit if any more date graphics are added 17:48:47 <andythenorth> sorry, it is just a wall of spritelayouts 17:48:48 <frosch123> put the "hide_sprite" into a register 17:49:09 <andythenorth> that was one thought 17:49:17 <andythenorth> but 17:49:41 <andythenorth> the repeated spritelayouts only vary by the actual sprite 17:49:42 <frosch123> put all the sprites into a single spriteset 17:49:42 <andythenorth> machine_shop_spriteset_11_4_snow 17:49:48 <frosch123> so you only need one layout 17:49:49 <andythenorth> yes 17:49:56 <andythenorth> I just donât know how to do it yet :) 17:50:17 <andythenorth> the required sprites are all defined in the python compile, so changing the templating to use them should be trivial 17:50:24 <andythenorth> if I can figure out whatâs needed :) 17:58:53 <Alberth> hehe, nice pre-condition :) 18:00:04 <andythenorth> default :P 18:02:15 <andythenorth> if I want the value for a STORE_TEMP() to be conditional, I need to branch switches? No other way? 18:03:01 <andythenorth> nml docs has an example that stacks ternary op on a âcondition ? new : previousâ approach 18:03:14 * andythenorth ponders 18:03:58 <andythenorth> https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/entry/src/templates/spritelayouts.pynml#L168 18:04:17 <andythenorth> is the repeat that builds the spritelayout, need to convert that to switch(es) 18:11:22 *** shirish [~quassel@0001358e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 18:11:45 *** Myhorta[1] [~Myhorta@10.87.37.188.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #openttd 18:12:45 *** shirish [~quassel@117.215.26.168] has joined #openttd 18:19:03 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:24:11 *** DDR [~david@S010600254bbe4e1c.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:25:59 *** heffer [felix@hyperion.fk.cx] has joined #openttd 18:36:26 *** Johnnei [~Johnnei@D9783BEE.cm-3-1a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 18:36:36 *** DDR [~david@S010600254bbe4e1c.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #openttd 18:39:37 * andythenorth works on it 18:42:39 <andythenorth> STORE_TEMP(value, register), register is always an int? 18:42:49 <andythenorth> NML wonât expand identifiers and auto-assign numbers? 18:46:33 <Alberth> no idea what that means :) 18:47:14 * andythenorth should write better questions 18:49:45 <Eddi|zuHause> anybody lost a solid gold AK-47 while visiting St. Petersburg? http://englishrussia.com/2015/05/15/solid-gold-ak-47-lost-in-taxi/ 18:50:01 *** DarkenMoon [DarkenMoon@2602:100:6028:c90e:30d4:b1f2:4696:2af9] has joined #openttd 18:53:33 <Rubidium> right... rich enough to afford a gold (and therefor pointless) gun, but poor enough to have to take a cab 18:53:48 <Johnnei> Priorities :p 18:54:57 * andythenorth has boxed himself into a corner 18:54:58 <andythenorth> meh 18:55:08 <andythenorth> I will spend much more time unpicking this than I will save in compiles :) 18:55:12 <andythenorth> but it will be more correct 18:58:26 *** nanoha-chan [~derp@van-app-svr.ad.v10networks.ca] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:58:29 *** nanoha-chan [~derp@van-app-svr.ad.v10networks.ca] has joined #openttd 19:00:19 *** qwebirc31196 [~oftc-webi@217-208-210-223-no94.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #openttd 19:00:27 <qwebirc31196> starbud here 19:00:39 <qwebirc31196> http://www.tt-forums.net/download/file.php?id=66530&sid=ad44a8fd2541f5e3f1b3ad2dec93a9fd 19:00:57 <qwebirc31196> happy did you see this one? 19:01:32 <Eddi|zuHause> looks terrible 19:03:26 <andythenorth> if Iâve started thinking in trees, does that mean Iâm growing a programmer brain? 19:03:48 <Eddi|zuHause> no 19:03:51 <andythenorth> good 19:03:54 * andythenorth was worried 19:04:09 * andythenorth is not programmer 19:04:12 <Eddi|zuHause> just that you're missing the wood 19:04:18 <andythenorth> :P 19:04:38 <andythenorth> if you have a tree-shaped hammer, is everything a wooden nail? 19:06:07 * andythenorth is develoloper 19:08:27 <Eddi|zuHause> deveLOLoper? 19:09:53 <TrueBrain> lol-owl-lol 19:10:38 <Johnnei> anythenorth codes lolcode :p 19:26:31 *** Ketsuban [~ketsuban@2.221.246.223] has joined #openttd 19:34:02 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host246-73-dynamic.5-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 19:34:21 <Wolf01> o/ 19:37:47 *** Pereba [~UserNick@186.212.248.31] has joined #openttd 19:42:07 *** Alberth [~alberth@2001:981:c6c5:1:be5f:f4ff:feac:e11] has left #openttd [] 19:50:36 <andythenorth> one day Iâll learn how to teach make 19:50:42 <andythenorth> then I can teach it the actual deps 19:50:46 <andythenorth> and stop relying make clean 19:51:29 <andythenorth> * on 19:51:35 *** DarkenMoon [DarkenMoon@2602:100:6028:c90e:30d4:b1f2:4696:2af9] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:51:53 *** JacobD88 [~Thunderbi@cpc20-stap11-2-0-cust392.12-2.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: JacobD88] 19:54:48 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@95.76.27.245] has quit [] 19:55:30 *** shirish [~quassel@0001358e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:59:21 *** Johnnei [~Johnnei@D9783BEE.cm-3-1a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:10:50 *** Klanticus [~quassel@179.234.179.109] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:15:55 *** mczapkie [~mczapkie@aann89.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 20:16:07 <mczapkie> Good Evening 20:16:32 <frosch123> hoi 20:17:57 <mczapkie> I found following dbg error in logs: industry_cmd.cpp:2052: Backupped value was not restored! 20:18:29 <mczapkie> does anybody know, what can be a cause? 20:19:32 <frosch123> you canceled map generation 20:25:43 <mczapkie> exactly, during industry generation loop (if industry number is high) 20:25:58 <frosch123> no problem then :) 20:26:23 <mczapkie> I got some desync lately and was suspicious that my industry newgrf is a cause 20:26:27 <frosch123> it's caused by the way the canceling is implemented 20:26:58 <frosch123> industry grfs are pretty safe wrt. desyncs 20:27:10 <frosch123> usually only vehicle grfs cause trouble 20:27:14 <mczapkie> even if some temp/perm registers are in use? 20:27:33 <frosch123> yes, we hardened that :) 20:27:46 *** JacobD88 [~Thunderbi@cpc20-stap11-2-0-cust392.12-2.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 20:28:03 *** JacobD88 [~Thunderbi@cpc20-stap11-2-0-cust392.12-2.cable.virginm.net] has quit [] 20:28:18 <mczapkie> it is great, that these desync are not my problem :) 20:29:31 <mczapkie> probably xUSSR set and its sophisticated running cost calculation 20:29:32 <frosch123> anyway, if you want to help finding the desync 20:29:37 <frosch123> http://hg.openttd.org/trunk.hg/file/39f78f3d8423/docs/desync.txt#l141 <- see section 2.1 and 2.2 20:30:25 <frosch123> desync caused by vehicle grfs are usually detected with 2.1 20:31:15 <mczapkie> yes, I know procedure, but usually I run off resources before desync is recorded (if savegame is dumped) 20:31:36 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@i59F6B4E0.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20:33:26 <mczapkie> but cache debugging is a good idea - section 2.1 is doable (in terms of limited quota) 20:36:26 *** Progman [~progman@p57A18560.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 20:40:07 <andythenorth> âwhen you have a python, everything looks like an iterable" 20:49:29 <SpComb> you can do anything with a for loop 20:50:28 <andythenorth> list comprehension 20:50:36 * andythenorth back to making FIRS faster 20:50:46 <andythenorth> this 3 hours work might shave 6s off the compile :P 21:01:42 <mczapkie> I dont understand, why tractive effort for all USSR locomotives is decreased if compared to real prototypes 21:02:23 <michi_cc> andythenorth: Daily compiles for the next five years should do it: https://xkcd.com/1205/ :) 21:02:52 <andythenorth> that chart again :) 21:03:01 <andythenorth> also, doing it right is better sometimes 21:03:06 <andythenorth> no matter how long it takes :P 21:04:19 *** Suicyder [~Suicyder@86.92.59.88] has quit [Quit: Try HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-] 21:10:29 <andythenorth> bye 21:10:31 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 21:11:24 <mczapkie> Let me take a French leave... 21:11:28 *** mczapkie [~mczapkie@aann89.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:21:21 <luaduck> are there any known server side crashes in 1.5.0? we've crashed twice in three days in UpdateVehicleTimetable 21:25:04 <frosch123> none wrt. that function 21:25:17 <frosch123> there is a known crash caused by roadrunnerai 21:25:30 <frosch123> and a known crash by loading old savegames (should not affect a server) 21:27:01 *** Biolunar [Biolunar@x4d083307.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #openttd 21:30:06 *** qwebirc31196 [~oftc-webi@217-208-210-223-no94.bredband.skanova.com] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:32:08 *** shirish [~quassel@117.215.26.168] has joined #openttd 21:32:17 *** Progman [~progman@p57A18560.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:32:20 *** shirish [~quassel@0001358e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:38:58 <Wolf01> 'night 21:39:02 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 21:43:59 *** wicope [~wicope@0001fd8a.user.oftc.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:44:23 *** frosch123 [~frosch@x4d01a772.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Quit: be yourself, except: if you have the opportunity to be a unicorn, then be a unicorn] 22:04:17 <Eddi|zuHause> this picture makes my brain hurt :/ http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=1149354#p1149354 22:11:30 <Supercheese> agreed 22:55:30 *** Bhoren__ [~quassel@LAubervilliers-656-1-270-96.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]