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Log for #openttd on 19th December 2016:
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00:04:46  <Redirect_Left> Is there a way to get the distance betwee X tile and Y tile? (or specifically, airport to airport?)
00:05:09  <Redirect_Left> I'm trying to get the cheapest plane (as in, only just manages the range rather than some obscenely over-costly one for that distance)
00:07:05  <Redirect_Left> I'm currently just dragging a bridge from X to (approximate distance in a draggable direction), but i'm assuming there is a better way of doing that?
00:07:54  <_dp_> Redirect_Left, there are ruler tools in modded clients like citymania or btpro one
00:08:25  <_dp_> Redirect_Left, but in vanilla I think it's only by checking coordinates and calculating yourself
00:09:34  <Redirect_Left> Ah
00:09:57  <Redirect_Left> I'm using JGRs patchpack, so i'll go and read his thread and if its not noticeable in the 'patch notes' i may suggest something similar is added!
00:10:17  <lorran78> which industries set has the most indust between cities
00:10:23  <_dp_> Redirect_Left, yeah, JGR is likely to have it too
00:10:52  <lorran78> not only mail passenger and goods
00:10:54  <Redirect_Left> ah yes, he has included a copy of https://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=49212
00:12:00  <Redirect_Left> I'd have never have found that button (or guessed its meaning) without looking it up, cheers for that
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02:44:19  <Wolf01> 'night
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04:40:16  <JohnnyWing> Is the github repo perhaps behind or not maintained? It doesn't compile when I pull it down...missing files :?
04:40:50  <JohnnyWing> https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD that is
04:41:11  <Supercheese> might be some extras you need
04:41:31  <Supercheese> stuff like this: https://www.openttd.org/en/download-openttd-useful
04:41:35  <Supercheese> check the wiki for compilation guides
04:41:58  <JohnnyWing> No I've got all that. I got it working via svn, but this git....
04:42:22  <JohnnyWing> im missing files. Like this .h doesn't exist, yet it's imported.... #include "table/strings.h"
04:43:07  <JohnnyWing> granted I'm new to cpp so may be missing some concept
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12:41:23  <_dp_> So many useless grfs with nice graphics...
12:42:11  <_dp_> Trees objects, houses objects, stations, grounds, roads...
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12:42:29  <Wolf01> o/
12:42:32  <_dp_> How the hell I'm supposed to use them in game?
12:42:37  <_dp_> hi)
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12:59:19  <Wolf01> o/
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13:14:47  <Alberth> min
13:15:00  <Alberth> *moin
14:00:23  <Wolf01> Genius game.. A->B->C route, C is between A and B, A loads logs, B unloads and load planks, C unloads planks. There's a loop after C because reasons, I set up a waypoint to enter the right C platform... What do trains do?
14:01:47  <Wolf01> Enter C, go trought loop, go back to C on a different platform, reverse, go to A
14:02:34  <Wolf01> Blocking another route because it's the right thing to do
14:07:05  <Eddi|zuHause> depot orders?
14:07:18  <Wolf01> Nah, TF
14:07:40  <Eddi|zuHause> ah... yeah
14:07:47  <Eddi|zuHause> make another WP :p
14:07:57  <Eddi|zuHause> one before and one after the platform
14:08:12  <Wolf01> The problem is that the train won't stop in the station
14:08:44  <Wolf01> I removed the station order, re-added it and now it works
14:09:01  <Wolf01> Also I need to set up every time waypoints on terminus stations because they like to swap platforms as they want
14:09:04  <Wolf01> Blocking other routesz
14:09:05  <Eddi|zuHause> ... until it automatically rearranges platform assignment
14:10:06  <Wolf01> The nice thing is that devs stated "is impossible to make a route use more than one platform because we need to know where a train stops to show the stuff on the platform"... and then you switch platform as you like?
14:10:39  <Eddi|zuHause> well, "impossible" is the wrong word there
14:10:57  <Wolf01> And as I've seen multiple times, a train in a different platform is still able to load, so it's not a valid reason
14:11:16  <Eddi|zuHause> it's not a technical reason, it's an aesthetics reason
14:12:03  <Wolf01> And they break their own "rule" constantly, so?
14:14:41  <Wolf01> You can say that if you have 2 trains of the same route you aren't able to tell which one will load the stuff
14:14:47  <Wolf01> It's more understandable
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14:20:46  <Wolf01> Quak
14:22:20  <frosch123> moi
14:35:15  <supermop_> yo
15:04:08  <__ln__> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qs9jiXOKNls
15:06:43  <Eddi|zuHause> Wolf01: i don't understand what you mean
15:07:46  <Wolf01> What could happen if 2 trains of the same route need to load at the same station at the same time? Currently is not possible in TF
15:09:31  <Wolf01> Not that is really useful for trains, they could be left in serial mode instead of parallel mode, but for road vehicles it could be nice
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15:43:51  <supermop_> there are so so soo many nicely designed trivets out there
15:44:11  <supermop_> already 100s of nice ones from 1800-2006
15:44:51  <supermop_> but it seems like in the last 10 years designers and craftsmen have made thousands more really nice ones
15:45:37  <supermop_> can someone have too many trivets? I feel like gifting a trivet to my mom every year indefinitely
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16:08:45  <Alberth> when you don't fit in the house anymore due to trivets, I think you have too many :)
16:09:43  <supermop_> what do they call trivets in German/Dutch/other languages on the channel
16:10:23  <frosch123> Topfuntersetzer
16:10:54  <frosch123> do you only mean trivets, or also place mats?
16:11:26  <frosch123> and tea-cloth?
16:11:41  <Wolf01> <Alberth> when you don't fit in the house anymore due to trivets, I think you have too many :) <- too bad it doesn't work with lego
16:11:44  <supermop_> things for setting a hot dish or pot onto the table with, usually cast of metal or ceramic, sometimes wood
16:12:15  <supermop_> but not a soft pad that is also used for holding a pot, nor a cloth placemat
16:12:31  <frosch123> yeah, but i distinguish between stuff for food, and stuff for a glass can for tea
16:13:22  <supermop_> if it is approx. 10cm dia or less i would call it a coaster, unless it is of a very open design
16:13:47  <supermop_> or a saucer if it is the special plate that a tea or coffee cup sits on
16:14:14  <supermop_> a tea towel, placemat, or table runner would not count
16:14:44  <frosch123> so, "Topfuntersetzer" :)
16:14:46  <supermop_> so lets say it must be mostly rigid, and you cannot eat directly off it if you wanted to
16:15:10  <frosch123> try image search :)
16:16:51  <supermop_> sometimes english has dozens of words for things that are only slightly different in function
16:17:25  <supermop_> especially in the kitchen, where things have French, Italian, and German derived names
16:19:12  <supermop_> and it varies between the UK, and different regions of the US.  In some parts of the country the word trivet is almost never used colloquially, and instead they use 'potholder' for both the pad or mitten you reach into the oven with, and the the rigid thing that goes onto the table
16:26:52  <Alberth> Wolf01: it's not? :O
16:27:22  <Wolf01> No, I'm the evidence :P
16:27:35  <Alberth> we can make it a rule, but until your bank requires proof from you about amount of free lego storage space, it means very little
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17:18:08  <Wolf01> Bah, "yellow alert for snow" I read "alert yellow snow"
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17:31:54  <Wolf01> http://store.steampowered.com/app/372350 ???
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17:33:29  <Redirect_Left> olol, that might be mildly amusing for 5 minutes
17:34:34  <Wolf01> Best I can do is 3
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17:44:09  <Wolf01> http://steamcommunity.com/games/326410/announcements/detail/972040300483041201 Eddi|zuHause, did you read this?
17:46:59  <Eddi|zuHause> Wolf01: no
17:47:15  <Eddi|zuHause> and i'm not sure if i'm interested
17:47:29  <Wolf01> Windward players will get free beta access btw
17:49:29  <Eddi|zuHause> yes, i read that
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18:00:15  <Wolf01> Bye
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18:45:43  <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r27699 trunk/src/lang/russian.txt (2016-12-19 19:45:38 +0100 )
18:45:44  <DorpsGek> -Update from Eints:
18:45:45  <DorpsGek> russian: 1 change by Lone_Wolf
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20:08:25  <V453000> seriously considering buying a wacom pen pc
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20:32:54  <__ln__> an eventful day
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23:33:01  <Eddi|zuHause> don't ever say that before the day is over...
23:34:34  <supermop_> over for germany and turkey by now at least
23:35:07  <supermop_> no long shot miracle in the electoral college here either
23:36:29  <Eddi|zuHause> ... and britain decided against allowing Jedi as a religion...
23:36:41  <Eddi|zuHause> (apparently a very important headline today)
23:37:07  <supermop_> yeah thats right up there with the other news of the day
23:39:05  <supermop_> later for now
23:39:30  <Eddi|zuHause> there was also a thing in switzerland
23:40:03  <Eddi|zuHause> and apparently something about liverpool winning something somewhere
23:40:38  <Eddi|zuHause> ... not sure why i would care...
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