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:) 10:55:15 <andythenorth> had a feature request 10:55:19 <andythenorth> that I can d 10:55:21 <andythenorth> do * 10:58:00 <Alberth> jolly good 10:58:51 <andythenorth> unusual tbh 10:59:13 <Alberth> ones you can do? yeah :) 11:00:53 <andythenorth> sieze the chance eh? :) 11:03:55 *** matt11235 has joined #openttd 11:19:09 *** HerzogDeXtEr has quit IRC 11:33:41 <andythenorth> oops 11:33:47 * andythenorth learns about circular dependencies 11:34:15 <andythenorth> self.model_life = replacement.intro_date + replacement.model_life :P 11:34:24 <andythenorth> doesn’t scale so well 11:34:40 <andythenorth> not quite circular, but eh 11:38:17 <andythenorth> anyone play with expiring vehicles? 11:38:27 * andythenorth doesn’t, but is adding support for it to Road Hog 11:39:03 <Wolf01> I play with all but disasters 11:39:44 <Alberth> it's not circular indeed 11:39:58 <andythenorth> it’s just some kind of horrible branching 11:39:59 <Alberth> I do play with vehicle expiration on 11:40:21 <andythenorth> feature request was to keep current + previous generation available at all times 11:40:28 <andythenorth> which is trivial code, if a bit ugly :) 11:40:43 <Alberth> current is trivial :p 11:41:49 * andythenorth tests 11:41:59 <Alberth> "all times" seems a bit overstretched 11:42:37 <andythenorth> it wasn’t a demand, just loosely expressed :) 11:42:44 <Alberth> it'd be fine to remove old stuff after you have had enough opportunity to replace 11:43:01 *** Defaultti has quit IRC 11:43:25 <Alberth> nuts uses 255 year, which basically means I have to hide all old crap manually :p 11:43:48 <Alberth> may or may not be a bad thing :p 11:44:28 <andythenorth> hmm, this version is buggy 11:44:51 <andythenorth> sometimes no model of a specific type (pax tram for example) isn’t available 11:45:52 <Alberth> clearly no demand for public transport in that era :p 11:47:25 <andythenorth> whenever I try to set model life, I encounter regret :) 11:47:32 <andythenorth> it never works reliably 11:48:26 * andythenorth needs to set retire_early prop 11:49:39 *** Defaultti has joined #openttd 11:54:33 *** Maraxus has quit IRC 12:19:21 <andythenorth> _probably_ done 12:33:09 <Wolf01> Just overlapping availability with dates doesn't work? 12:36:17 <Wolf01> I don't like too much stuff on purchase list, specially when I use 3 vehicles over 20 available, and hide the ones I don't use is boring 12:36:48 <Wolf01> I would like more some "keep this vehicle in production" flag :P 12:44:10 <andythenorth> there are shenanigans due randomisation of model life 12:44:19 <andythenorth> openttd adds a random amount 12:44:28 <andythenorth> and for intro dates also 12:44:50 <andythenorth> so it’s a moving target 12:44:59 <andythenorth> :) 12:45:16 *** Gja has joined #openttd 12:48:01 <Alberth> you change to a new generation for all engines at the same time, so there are a lot of new engines suddenly 12:48:32 <Alberth> while if you change each engine separately, the problem of temporary having 2 similar engines is less worse 12:52:44 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 13:00:27 *** FLHerne has joined #openttd 13:06:47 *** Deactivated has joined #openttd 13:16:23 *** Myhorta has joined #openttd 13:31:18 *** Striek has joined #openttd 14:04:42 *** smoke_fumus has joined #openttd 14:05:48 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 14:12:11 <Wolf01> https://www.packtpub.com/packt/offers/free-learning <- Mastering Object-oriented Python if somebody is interested 14:14:31 <Alberth> doesn't even provide a TOC 14:15:06 <Wolf01> Oh, there is, but you have to redeem the free ebook on your account first 14:16:16 <Wolf01> https://paste.openttdcoop.org/pk043pvyq <- 14:19:01 <Alberth> thanks 14:37:40 *** Progman has quit IRC 14:38:55 <Wolf01> Too bad most of the free ebooks are ancient, like the ones or php4 or 5 :/ 14:39:10 <Wolf01> At least this is for python 3 14:41:37 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 14:47:09 <Alberth> likely it's simpler to read the python tutorial at docs.python.org 14:48:37 <Alberth> lots of the stuff in the book isn't about "mastering object-oriented", it's more "using objects" 14:49:32 <Wolf01> Clickbait titles :P 14:49:57 <Alberth> :) 14:50:18 <Wolf01> That's why I always wait until something free shows up 14:50:48 <Wolf01> I won't spend 40€ for a book which is worse than a tutorial 14:51:12 <Alberth> serialization doesn't even address versioning, and loading old objects, judging from the TOC 14:54:50 *** Deactivated has quit IRC 15:20:37 <andythenorth> new Hog done 15:21:06 *** maciozo has joined #openttd 15:22:43 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttd 15:25:11 <Alberth> haven't finished the old one yet :) 15:31:14 *** supermop has joined #openttd 15:31:37 <supermop> yo 15:41:54 <Alberth> o/ 15:52:20 <V453000> yo humanz 16:14:51 *** Maraxus has joined #openttd 16:28:22 *** Biolunar_ has quit IRC 16:32:01 *** frosch123 has joined #openttd 16:44:58 *** supermop has quit IRC 16:48:43 *** Progman has joined #openttd 17:14:46 *** Speedy has quit IRC 17:15:32 <__ln__> https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/827867311054974976 17:15:41 *** glx has joined #openttd 17:15:41 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v glx 17:16:26 *** HerzogDeXtEr has joined #openttd 17:37:41 *** Progman has quit IRC 17:50:13 *** supermop__ has joined #openttd 17:55:52 *** supermop_ has quit IRC 17:56:10 *** Lejving has quit IRC 18:02:28 *** Arveen2 has joined #openttd 18:07:38 *** Arveen has quit IRC 18:21:51 *** Alberth has left #openttd 18:28:11 *** Maraxus has quit IRC 18:38:45 <andythenorth> is it ottd time? 18:41:22 <andythenorth> Silicon Valley with FIRS Steeltown? o_O 18:45:26 *** matt11235 has quit IRC 18:54:16 *** Lejving has joined #openttd 18:55:08 *** Speedy` has joined #openttd 18:55:23 *** Speedy` is now known as Speedy 18:58:09 <andythenorth> “you have a secret weakness for coke” :| 18:58:59 *** tycoondemon has joined #openttd 19:07:44 <milda> __ln__: Todays tantrum? 19:09:54 *** Striek has quit IRC 19:26:05 *** Snail has joined #openttd 19:27:05 *** Progman has joined #openttd 19:34:56 *** FLHerne has quit IRC 19:35:10 *** FLHerne has joined #openttd 20:04:09 *** roidal has joined #openttd 20:11:52 *** Myhorta has quit IRC 20:14:10 *** orudge` has quit IRC 20:14:31 *** orudge` has joined #openttd 20:14:32 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o orudge` 20:17:53 *** markasoftware has joined #openttd 20:18:36 *** Supercheese has joined #openttd 20:43:29 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 20:44:35 *** andythenorth has left #openttd 20:47:49 *** FLHerne has quit IRC 20:58:08 <Lejving> https://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=73182 20:58:19 <Lejving> did this ever get implemented? 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