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Log for #openttd on 9th September 2017:
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06:01:16  <andythenorth> o/
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10:41:42  <Wolf01> Moin
10:41:59  <Wolf01> What could I like to do today?
10:42:17  <Wolf01> Also like != will
10:42:28  <Eddi|zuHause> getting stuck on the black market
10:43:34  <NGC3982> is there a industry grf that invokes black markets?
10:43:37  <NGC3982> that would be cool.
10:44:16  <Wolf01> Eddi|zuHause: nah, I've had enough of it, I'm not into games these days :(
10:45:12  <NGC3982> Wolf01: make a nice cup of coffee.
10:45:18  <NGC3982> that ritual is what keeps me going at times.
10:45:21  <Wolf01> Already done it
10:45:28  <Wolf01> Oh there's a festival just behind my home... it's raining...
10:51:03  <NGC3982> umbrella!
10:57:11  <Wolf01> Eh, it's raining so no festival
11:03:40  <Eddi|zuHause> so there's a festival that isn't there?
11:03:46  <Wolf01> Yes
11:04:37  <Wolf01> Ads say there's a festival, but it isn't there because it's raining
11:19:12  <NGC3982> oh, they cancelled it?
11:23:36  <andythenorth> o/
11:27:53  <Wolf01> o/
11:41:18  <andythenorth> such pixels
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11:59:23  <Wolf01> "Microsoft increases Windows Store device limit from 10 to 2,000" wat!?
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12:00:05  <Wolf01> The step from 5 to 10 was useful, I can't understand the 2000 one
12:00:32  <Eddi|zuHause> 2000 is a "we're afraid to make it infinite, but we really don't want to limit anyone"
12:00:47  <Wolf01> Maybe is required for Win10S and schools, so they can use only one account to download office from the store
12:02:11  <Eddi|zuHause> i'm assuming there are special corporate and educational conditions for that kind of large organization
12:02:33  <Wolf01> Yeah, but that's a store policy, not a windows' one
12:07:49  <andythenorth> ships without orders hog CPU
12:07:56  <andythenorth> someone has a patch for that
12:15:03  * andythenorth needs that new blitter
12:15:17  <andythenorth> ships use palette cycle
12:18:17  <Eddi|zuHause> only when people want fancy wave effects
12:19:57  <andythenorth> fancy
12:20:59  <Wolf01> Lol, it seem that SYL is into conspiracy theories
12:23:15  <andythenorth> awesome
12:23:33  <andythenorth> conspiracy theories are so useful to keep us free
12:25:23  <Wolf01> Could tooltips be changed dynamically? I have some really weird ideas
12:29:22  <peter1138> SYL? Strapping Young Lad?
12:47:20  <andythenorth> Steve You Later
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13:29:32  <Wolf01> Mmmh, at least 30 minutes until some nutella snack
13:40:42  <andythenorth> is OpenTTD dead yet?
13:49:25  <Wolf01> Fuck waiting, I'll get my nutella snack now
13:50:30  <Eddi|zuHause> Wolf01: there used to be a "measurement tool" patch that used dynamic tooltips
13:50:55  <Eddi|zuHause> as in, show how far you dragged
13:52:32  <Eddi|zuHause> it should be just a matter of finding the right place to push the string parameters to the stack
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13:58:07  <Alberth> o/
13:58:17  <andythenorth> lo Alkel_U3
13:58:27  <andythenorth> once again, hasty tab-complete :P
13:58:29  <Alberth> lo andythenorth
13:58:30  <andythenorth> moin Alberth
13:59:00  <andythenorth> Eddi|zuHause: ship relative lengths per angle….I have / and \ at 3/5 of –
13:59:04  <andythenorth> how long for | ?
13:59:42  <andythenorth> trains seem to use 1/2 of – angle for |
13:59:58  <Eddi|zuHause> yes
14:00:40  <Eddi|zuHause> the ratio of | to – is not really controversial. – to / is... problematic
14:00:40  * andythenorth does same then
14:02:39  <Alberth> would make sense to have the same relative lengths between trains and ships
14:03:29  <Alberth> although ships make it more obvious that scaling is off :p
14:04:00  <Wolf01> <Eddi|zuHause> Wolf01: there used to be a "measurement tool" patch that used dynamic tooltips <- I don't remember if that was mine, but I was totally thinking of something like this, but for the interface to get more informations based on a vehicle status, industries, houses..., the problem is that it's useless on devices without a pointer
14:06:16  <Wolf01> o/ Alberth
14:07:34  <andythenorth> draing ships :P
14:07:58  <andythenorth> on the plus side, I update one hull sprite, and 3 ship spritesheets update to use it
14:08:19  <Wolf01> For – to / just slice it and move every column 1px up :P
14:09:26  <Wolf01> But I'm not a designer, also I can't understand 2.5D and 3D projections
14:10:41  <Eddi|zuHause> Wolf01: that is wrong on so many levels :p
14:41:02  <Wolf01> https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4392/36248411983_e8e6ee5aa3_z.jpg
14:42:45  <Wolf01> Too bad he used some non-lego parts
14:42:54  <_dp_> iirc measurement tool didn't use gui tooltips it just looked like one
14:43:30  <_dp_> some buttons in cm client use dynamic tooltips and that works in very weird way.
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15:19:17  * andythenorth makes unsinkable sam
15:19:25  <andythenorth> much talked so far, little drawn :P
15:19:53  * Wolf01 makes a new shift for the Porsche
15:20:17  <Wolf01> If only I can understand how shifts work
15:21:52  <andythenorth> witchcraft
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16:02:02  <andythenorth> does it really matter? https://bugs.openttd.org/task/6505
16:02:48  <andythenorth> blah https://bugs.openttd.org/task/6490
16:03:28  <andythenorth> more blah https://bugs.openttd.org/task/5873
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16:43:42  <Wolf01> <andythenorth> does it really matter? https://bugs.openttd.org/task/6505 <- why not?
16:43:56  <andythenorth> seems dull :)
16:44:05  <andythenorth> can’t imagine anyone committing that :)
16:48:31  <Wolf01> You can do it when the lower tile has a train on it, but not when it has a ship on it...
16:49:04  <Alberth> most commits are dull edge cases nobody cares about
16:49:19  <Alberth> yet if you don't do them, it becomes a random mess
16:49:36  <Alberth> some  cases work, other don't for no apparent reason
16:49:46  <Alberth> so it's a bugfix, imho
16:50:05  <Alberth> if it is solved properly, that is
16:50:31  <Wolf01> Yes, it's a bugfix, maybe not done the right way but it solved the problem (I didn't try to patch)
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17:29:11  <Eddi|zuHause> i feel like i blaze through the complicated puzzles, but completely fail on the easy ones
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17:46:14  <Alberth> complicated may be just big rather than complicated :)
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20:53:29  <Eddi|zuHause> i seem to be missing something for this "interview"
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21:06:15  <Wolf01> Deponia does not have complicate puzzles, lateral thinking and puns are the great part
21:07:03  <Wolf01> Lateral thinking = you need to be weird minded like Rufus
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21:28:36  <Eddi|zuHause> ok, let's call it "convoluted" :p
21:32:22  <Wolf01> Lightning storm approaching...
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23:32:03  <Wolf01> Ha! The perfect book for V: https://www.packtpub.com/packt/offers/free-learning
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