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00:04:08 <Samu> TADA!! https://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=77236 00:05:00 <Samu> implement it ploz 00:05:42 <Samu> NO!11 00:05:53 <Samu> :) 00:12:47 *** Mahjong2 has joined #openttd 00:20:22 *** Mahjong1 has quit IRC 00:20:51 *** Guest8258 has quit IRC 00:26:37 *** Samu has quit IRC 00:27:49 *** DDR_ has quit IRC 00:28:10 *** DDR_ has joined #openttd 00:51:51 *** Gustavo6046 has quit IRC 00:53:44 *** urdh has quit IRC 00:54:41 *** Biolunar has quit IRC 00:55:27 *** urdh has joined #openttd 00:59:53 *** ToffeeYogurtPots has quit IRC 01:02:39 *** ATMunn has joined #openttd 01:03:08 *** ATMunn is now known as Guest8460 01:16:29 *** gnu_jj_ has quit IRC 01:16:31 *** gnu_jj has joined #openttd 01:17:05 *** Compu has quit IRC 01:17:32 *** Compu has joined #openttd 01:23:46 *** orudge` has quit IRC 01:23:58 *** orudge` has joined #openttd 01:23:58 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o orudge` 01:56:04 *** Supercheese has quit IRC 01:56:39 *** Supercheese has joined #openttd 01:59:21 *** bwn 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*** nauticalnexus has quit IRC 08:37:15 <PressureLine> and i only have trains that go 45kph(28mph) 08:37:32 *** nauticalnexus has joined #openttd 08:37:42 <PressureLine> using a cargo multiplier of 4x 08:39:52 <PressureLine> and only 445kW so I can only pull <1000tonne trains (on the level, performance on hills is going to be abysmal) 08:40:24 <PressureLine> this ought to be interesting. 08:40:58 <Supercheese> when in doubt 08:41:00 <Supercheese> ships 08:41:05 <Supercheese> infinite line capacity 08:41:13 <Supercheese> just add moar boots 08:41:25 <PressureLine> 1880 08:41:31 <PressureLine> and no early boat grf 08:41:34 <Supercheese> ah 08:41:41 <Supercheese> alas 08:41:56 <PressureLine> let the trans siberian railway begin! 08:43:04 <PressureLine> and a *^&%&ing mountain pass 08:52:03 *** APTX has quit IRC 08:53:27 *** APTX has joined #openttd 09:00:52 *** Biolunar has joined #openttd 09:06:19 *** APTX has quit IRC 09:10:50 *** Supercheese has quit IRC 09:12:24 *** Markk has quit 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<Samu> i've always wanted to set up a server with some airport types disabled 12:49:57 <Samu> looks like newgrfs could do this already, but screw newgrfs :( 12:59:41 *** goodger has quit IRC 12:59:48 *** goodger has joined #openttd 13:22:30 *** Warrigal has quit IRC 13:22:30 *** Warrigal has joined #openttd 13:32:42 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttd 13:37:05 *** argoneus has quit IRC 13:37:06 *** argoneus has joined #openttd 13:49:30 *** Breckett has joined #openttd 13:50:01 <supermop> Samu: airport selection should be by newgrf 13:52:14 *** supermop has quit IRC 13:56:41 *** TheMask96 has quit IRC 14:01:47 *** TheMask96 has joined #openttd 14:05:36 <Samu> i forgot how to code a newgrf, maybe i should try 14:05:43 <Samu> do this via newgrf 14:06:30 *** fiatjaf has quit IRC 14:06:33 *** fiatjaf has joined #openttd 14:08:35 *** supermop has joined #openttd 14:17:37 *** Flygon_ has quit IRC 14:55:13 *** happpy has joined #openttd 14:56:42 *** happpy has left #openttd 14:57:42 *** _dp_ 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16:11:18 <Samu> so, i was thinking of something a bit restrictive 16:11:32 <Samu> forbid big planes to land on small airports 16:11:49 <Samu> i need to change quite a lot 16:12:02 <Samu> would have to make them not enter those hangars 16:12:17 <Samu> make them not even available from purchase from those hangars 16:13:58 <Samu> not land on those airports 16:14:17 <Samu> but then how would savegame conversion be dealt with? :( 16:16:07 <Samu> cus to this day there's still ppl buying big planes and use them on small airports... maybe by force, they wouldn't do it any longer 16:16:58 *** Breckett has quit IRC 16:17:13 *** Breckett has joined #openttd 16:20:44 <supermop> why do you need to punish people for using small airports? the small airports are already very low in capacity 16:21:05 <supermop> maybe they are putting JATO rockets on the airplanes? 16:22:11 <Samu> yep 16:22:16 <Samu> they are 16:25:35 <Samu> i have this idea bubbling in my head 16:25:46 <Samu> to have a game with disabled large airports 16:26:40 <Samu> when large and hub airports are disabled, only the small airport is available, so then it makes sense to only work with small planes 16:26:55 <Samu> disable all the others 16:31:33 <Samu> a bit similar to the idea of electric train engines working vs non-electric rails 16:32:18 <Samu> electric train cannot run on non-electric rails 16:32:30 <Samu> big plane cannot land on small airport 16:33:05 *** Defaultti has quit IRC 16:39:02 <supermop> why not just use a plane grf with only small airplanes 16:39:11 <supermop> the default planes are pretty dumb 17:04:15 *** orudge` has quit IRC 17:04:53 *** orudge` has joined #openttd 17:04:53 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o orudge` 17:08:33 *** SgtStroopwafel__ has joined #openttd 17:15:07 *** Thedarkb has quit IRC 17:15:16 <Samu> aircraft range is such a bad feature :( 17:16:30 <Samu> if an helicopter is heading to an airport without a depot and i ask it to go to nearest depot, what will happen about range if the depot is located too far? 17:22:20 <Alberth> I would expect it doesn't find a depot 17:25:01 *** Thedarkb has joined #openttd 17:25:31 <Samu> sorry 17:26:27 <Samu> geometrically speaking, if it finds a depot, it can still go to the next destination 17:27:25 <Samu> won't get stuck with dest too far 17:30:19 <Samu> A ---- H ----- B 17:30:29 <Samu> A is station with depot 17:30:39 <Samu> B is station without depot 17:30:42 <Samu> helicopter is at H 17:30:57 <Samu> and is heading to B, but needs servicing right now 17:31:06 <Samu> H goes back to A? 17:32:18 <Samu> what if there was any other station with depot near H 17:32:52 <Samu> it can't be too far from A, because A is still the closest 17:35:09 *** Thedarkb has quit IRC 17:36:45 <Samu> if H to C is bigger than H to A, it picks A, but what about after being serviced? what if it picked C, would C to B still be within aircraft range? 17:38:04 <Alberth> sounds too complicated to figure out 17:38:46 <Alberth> I'd expect it to do something much simpler, like just going to B 17:38:57 <Alberth> but try it :) 17:38:58 <Samu> B doesn't have depot :( 17:39:42 <Samu> who's the geometry expert here? :( 17:40:01 <Alberth> going back to A has the problem that it may never reach B if you set service time too small 17:40:28 <Samu> oh, that's some other problem 17:41:03 <Alberth> C is in range 17:41:28 <Alberth> it could at least fly back from C to its current position, and continue to B 17:41:33 <Samu> mabe going to B regardless of servicing needs is a "good" idea 17:42:29 <Alberth> hmm, fly to C and back may break flying to B, I guess 17:42:52 <Samu> i need to see what the code currently do 17:42:55 <Samu> brb 17:44:04 <Alberth> obviously, you can always fly from C back to A and then to B 17:44:24 <Alberth> but euhm, very complicated 17:44:25 *** Thedarkb has joined #openttd 17:46:28 <Samu> v->current_order.MakeDummy(); 17:46:46 <Samu> MakeDummy() when it needs servicing and the destination airport has no hangar 17:46:51 <Samu> that means... keep flying to C 17:48:53 *** Gustavo6046 has quit IRC 17:49:14 *** Gustavo6046 has joined #openttd 17:50:44 <Samu> actually i'm wrong 17:50:54 <Samu> it still keeps flying to C, but nothing ever happens 17:51:02 <Samu> no dummy orders 17:52:25 *** mindlesstux has quit IRC 17:52:55 *** mindlesstux has joined #openttd 17:54:10 <Samu> keep flying to B, I meant, bah 17:54:47 <Samu> so, if both A and B have no depots, the helicopter will never service :( 17:55:22 *** Progman has joined #openttd 18:03:15 *** glx has joined #openttd 18:03:15 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v glx 18:10:09 *** tokai|noir has quit IRC 18:10:59 *** tokai has joined #openttd 18:10:59 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai 18:11:10 <Samu> what's the XOR symbol, i forgot 18:11:21 <Samu> ^ | & ~ 18:11:54 <milek7> ^ 18:14:20 <Samu> ty :( 18:15:19 <LordAro> Samu: you should try google sometime 18:15:24 <LordAro> it's good 18:24:13 *** Wolf01 has joined #openttd 18:24:24 <Wolf01> Moin 18:25:55 *** APTX_ has 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client 20:26:13 *** UncleCJ has joined #openttd 20:36:58 <__ln__> Wolf01: they don't let you use irc at work on the first day? 20:37:14 <Wolf01> No, they don't let me use irc at work. 20:37:31 <V453000> yo 20:38:01 <andythenorth> Wolf01 has a job? o_O 20:38:06 <Wolf01> "job" 20:38:42 <Wolf01> I'll work as a slave for some time, then who knows... 20:43:24 *** cute[m] has joined #openttd 20:48:42 *** Samu has joined #openttd 20:48:57 <Samu> hi 20:56:54 *** innocenat has quit IRC 20:57:13 *** innocenat has joined #openttd 21:00:42 *** Keridos has joined #openttd 21:01:11 *** Breckett has joined #openttd 21:01:43 *** DD has quit IRC 21:01:58 *** Breckett has joined #openttd 21:04:38 *** Keridos has quit IRC 21:06:32 *** Keridos has joined #openttd 21:07:52 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 21:09:52 <Samu> https://imgur.com/jKRbEN7 21:10:06 <Samu> it werks! I didn't do much at all 21:11:14 *** Keridos has quit IRC 21:11:29 *** Keridos has joined #openttd 21:14:19 *** Keridos has quit IRC 21:14:35 *** Keridos has joined #openttd 21:31:18 *** Sylf has quit IRC 21:31:30 *** Sylf has joined #openttd 21:39:20 <Samu> peter1138: weren't you dealing with aircraft and hangars some days ago? 21:41:48 *** Agiri[m] has quit IRC 21:41:49 *** cute[m] has quit IRC 21:41:49 *** UncleCJ has quit IRC 21:41:49 *** swimstar[m] has quit IRC 21:43:14 *** Thedarkb has quit IRC 21:43:55 *** sla_ro|master2 has quit IRC 21:44:50 *** Arveen has joined #openttd 21:45:40 <Samu> peter1138: FindNearHangar needs to deal with airplanes trying to land at helidepots or helistations 21:45:49 <Samu> they can't 21:45:56 *** Thedarkb has joined #openttd 21:46:13 <Samu> FindNearestHangar * typo 21:49:39 *** UncleCJ has joined #openttd 21:50:10 *** Arveen2 has quit IRC 21:57:49 *** gelignite has quit IRC 22:05:28 *** Progman has quit IRC 22:24:19 <Wolf01> 'night 22:24:22 *** Wolf01 has quit IRC 22:30:00 *** cute[m] has joined #openttd 22:30:04 *** Agiri[m] has joined #openttd 22:30:04 *** swimstar[m] has joined #openttd 22:46:01 *** HerzogDeXtEr has quit IRC 22:58:50 *** Biolunar has quit IRC 23:01:59 <Samu> english expert needed 23:02:03 <Samu> STR_CONFIG_SETTING_LARGE_AIRPLANE_ON_SMALL_AIRPORT_HELPTEXT :When disabled, large aeroplanes do not land, can't be ordered and are not available for purchase on airports with short runways 23:02:15 <Samu> is this good english enough? 23:03:50 <Samu> chat, plz wake up 23:04:50 *** Wormnest has quit IRC 23:08:46 *** ToffeeYogurtPots has joined #openttd 23:09:50 <Samu> hello mister yogurt 23:10:11 <Samu> are u good at english? :o 23:12:03 *** Thedarkb has quit IRC 23:15:59 *** Flygon has joined #openttd 23:16:50 *** Thedarkb has joined #openttd 23:18:07 *** OsteHovel has quit IRC 23:19:47 *** OsteHovel has joined #openttd 23:28:08 <supermop> https://www.theatlantic.com/photo/2017/11/color-photos-of-the-1939-new-york-worlds-fair/545087/ 23:29:29 <Samu> hmm photos 23:30:28 <ToffeeYogurtPots> Samu: well I am English so... 23:30:53 <ToffeeYogurtPots> Samu: Yes 23:31:08 <Samu> cool i was asking if this is good english: 23:31:09 <Samu> STR_CONFIG_SETTING_LARGE_AIRPLANE_ON_SMALL_AIRPORT_HELPTEXT :When disabled, large aeroplanes do not land, can't be ordered and are not available for purchase on airports with short runways 23:32:00 <juzza1> Samu: how about "Allow large airplanes to use airports with short runways" and you invert the logic of the setting 23:32:15 <Samu> STR_CONFIG_SETTING_LARGE_AIRPLANE_ON_SMALL_AIRPORT :Allow large aeroplanes on small airports: {STRING2} 23:33:12 <Samu> with short runways vs small airports 23:33:50 <Samu> game code is a bit ambiguous regarding this, at least the comments 23:34:45 <Samu> comments tell about fast airplanes trying to go on airports with short runways, but i've also read other comments about large airplanes on small airports, in reality, they mean the same 23:35:38 <Samu> large airplanes with short runways seems to be the exact wording for this 23:37:03 <Samu> Allow large airplanes or aeroplanes? 23:37:18 <Samu> muh english! 23:38:23 <Samu> the setting is not just the ability of them landing on them, there's also their availability on hangars 23:38:37 <Samu> https://imgur.com/jKRbEN7 23:38:50 <ToffeeYogurtPots> Samu: Aeroplanes seems correct but I'm not sure why. Maybe the spelling is different in the US to UK 23:39:46 <Samu> on the left, hangar of airport with short runway, on the middle, hangar of airport with big runway, on the right, hangar of helicopter station 23:41:18 *** Gustavo6046 has quit IRC 23:41:18 <Samu> "to use airports with short runways" or "on airports with short runways"? which one is better to describe that behaviour? 23:42:24 <ToffeeYogurtPots> Samu: Just checked, both airplane and aeroplane are correct. I'd use "to use airports with short runways". 23:42:39 <Samu> ok, thanks 23:42:45 <Samu> will fix 23:43:59 <ToffeeYogurtPots> Samu: No problem, English is a weird language. 23:46:15 * ToffeeYogurtPots goes to sleep because it's 11pm in the UK 23:46:25 <Samu> tc 23:46:41 *** Gustavo6046 has joined #openttd